I will see the vision pro as beneficial when it doesn’t need the laptop. It has an M2 processor so the power is there to run applications by itself. I know the battery life would most likely be an issue in that case tho. Figure it out 😅
This is an early adopter machine. In 2-3 years we will get the "Air" version, which will be around 1k. This first round is all about seeing what is used, what isn't used, and what they can make cheaper.
@@xcreeperify I highly doubt that, but early adopters know the risk of a device like this. You can say the same literally about any V1 hardware on the market.
From what market? The people willing to shell out $3500 dollars for this aren’t the best test case for features used by everyday people waiting for a cheaper alternative.
@@TheDawnofVanlife literally all tech in our history has worked like this. Expensive at first, after time prices come down with evolutions and better manufacturing. Features are added and removed based on how the product is used over time.
@@cneubert28 ah yes the 3500 gaming console that kicked off the market how could I forget, or the 3000 IBM personal computer. Silly me. Lol all that means is that they're itching to make the R&D money back and putting it out too soon lol
WWDC = Worldwide Developers Conference This is a public dev kit, it's priced as such. There's a reason it was announced at WWDC and not a consumer product launch event.
My hope would be some form of hot-swappable battery system. Maybe the headset itself has a tiny battery that can last 5-6 minutes, just enough time to unplug your large dead battery and replace it with a charged one.
I found the moment with the dad filming his kids with the headset to be both creepy and totally hilarious 🤣 Also, while I'm definitely not purchasing them, I am honestly kind of sad that this and the Google Pixel Fold are not going to be sold in Canada.
What Apple advertised this for doesn't justify the $3500 price point. In its current state, it's an AR development kit that gets eclipsed by even the iPhone in terms of usability and sensibleness. It doesn't need to exist because it's a new shiny way to do my taxes - If anything it's most likely to serve medical and industrial fields a lot more then your average Joe looking to face-time his girlfriend in VRChat with RTX turned on.
I suspect that Apple won't be able to satisfy the demand...and will laugh at the HATERS all the way to the bank. Look for them to reach a 4 trillion dollar market cap by Q3 2024.
I think the Vision is cool, but it's dumb. Having a magical floating screen doesn't help anything, it doesn't improve anything, and being hands free is not all that useful when you have a screen floating in front of you. It's not like you'll be making ships in bottles while you do your taxes. And, if you can't put your screen down long enough go get food, then you have a much bigger problem than this doofy little headset can solve. But, again, this thing is objectively cool.
Damn, Royce is on point. If I have to choose between a 3D reconstruction of my or a Meta-inspired cartoon avatar in a professional setting, I'm going with the 3D reconstruction every time. The price is justified when you consider it's effectively like 2 iPads miniaturized and crammed together into a thick glasses kit with a crap-ton more sensors. With all that being said, I still think this is a product no one is actually going to buy at this stage.
Sorry but I already know exactly what the purpose of the face scanning is. It's to sell or use the face scans to train AI how to better tell people apart, probably for military use like enabling drones to better target enemies for elimination, as well as give them the ability to use your face in advertising _and_ teach AI how to create brand new faces that don't actually exist, but more accurately and realistically (without needing a human to create the detailed face model). None of which is a _good_ thing.
This is more expensive than most PCs... you cannot say that that is a fair price... it's just another Apple gimmick that will be forgotten about in a bit
I’m guessing there will be different batteries available to charge us more. This is going to take 3 to 5 years before the price really comes down, the M3 will help a lot with lower power consumption and i’m guessing one of the biggest price factors may be the two 4k plus screens.
The calculator app is also alongside the inability to block no caller ID 😢 As for the battery. Most people will use this at home. The external battery pack could be big as it will just sit on the sofa. Give it a few months China will make a big battery. I think Apple have got an excellent plan for a resurrection of 3D movies on the TV+ universe, as well as 3D gaming. One thing not mentioned, is it a stand alone and doesn’t need a phone? Therefore what is the specs for gaming abilities if it does not source the game from the phone? The weight has been mentioned, I am amazed they didn’t go for carbon. Perhaps if they make it plastic this will enable a cheaper version.
The vision pro is closer to a home computer(PC) than a laptop, will mostly be used at home and battery pack has just 2h of batterylife, if u consider a movie is usually 2,5 h long, but the pros are that u dont have to put a full sized pc under the table or put 3 58 inch screens on your table, just connect it to ur phone or ipad and u have the same power as a pc, 3 screens with really no size limit
Every single review has said after 15 minutes of wearing it they felt the weight. Can't replace a home computer where someone can work for hours with a device they need to stop using after 20 minutes because it gave them a neck cramp.
Take over all the counsels in a day has to be the biggest lie of all time. What games can anchor that ? Nintendo has exclusives, PlayStation has spider man and God of war, Xbox will still profit due to the high names but I doubt they would win the gaming market
Mac Pro… There DEFINITELY IS A NEED FOR IT for MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF US GRAPHIC PROFESSIONALS… BUT NOT AT THE RIDICULOUS PRICE POINT! I feel like I went back in time and Apple just announced the 4500 Mac for $4799 AND it doesn't include a mouse or a keyboard! WTH Apple??!?!? I think a $2500 price tag is more appropriate and they'd still make a nifty profit at that price. Tim Cooke has lost the plot and has got to go PRONTO!!! He lacks all creativity and is only looking to increase his departure bonus by several million dollars and it's going to tank Apple's Computer division! HOW ABOUT? They release iMacs that actually allow you to upgrade memory yourself and quite making machines that ship with less than 32GB of RAM??!?!? IT'S 2023 FFS!!!! As for the Vision Pro… WAAAAAY TOO EXPENSIVE and WAY TOOOOOO IMPRACTICAL. What MORON wants to walk around with something like this on their head all day long? NO ONE. As an apple tech for almost 30 years now, I'm the biggest Apple Proponent as you couldn't pay me enough to touch a windows POS long way to nowhere pile of junk, but this is going to go the way of the G4 Cube and will flop. Even at $1,000 it's too expensive BECAUSE of it's impracticality. As a GAMING DEVICE like the Oculus, I can see it succeeding, but Apple is marketing this as a wearable computer which is unnecessary and downright asinine. Also, what if you wear Glasses??!?!?!!?????!?!?!?!? smh💡
OMG.. this is NOT a "Beta" device, its fully out of the box WORKING with all the functionality of your computer and MORE, PLUS all the immersion content you can get. More importantly they seemed to have absolutely NAILED what literally NO ONE has done in the VR industry; REALLY GOOD HAND AND EYE TRACKING!!. You guys really don't understand what a "knocked it out of the fucking park" moment this is for the VR industry. Now the Meta Quest Pro was ABSOLUTELY a Beta Dev kit, and everyone who tried it said the same thing; hand tracking is still not there, pass through is trash, and eye tracking is crap as well. now THAT is Beta headset. NOT the AVP.
Really sick of the battery life argument as it is just wrong on 2 points: 1st: It's an MR headset that can/will/should be used plugged into a power source MOST of the time. So, compared to literally EVERY other headset that practically *requires* battery life, like the Quest 2, because they are stand alone *gaming* focused headsets, the AVP's purely stand alone content is totally minimal at this point. 2: 2 hour battery life is LITERALLY the industry standard for EVERY stand alone VR headset currently on the market. So the AVP's battery life is by definition, not bad, it's STANDARD. It could be considered bad only if there were a majority of other standalone headsets that have nearly 2 times the battery life, but since there is no such headset in existence, by definition the AVP CANNOT BE BAD.
Why is the "DAD" taking family videos in the Promo so TRIGGERING to YT reviewers ??? Why is that so different than EVERY single solitary friend and family member at a kid's party walking around with their noses buried in their phones or taking awkward and inappropriate Selfies? ...while deliberately ignoring the kids. JFC !!
4:30 literally ZERO people even HINTED or SUGGESTED people would or should be just walking around their house with this on "all the time" WHAT?. Why would even *THINK* anyone would suggest this. Why would you even do it?
6:40 People like to compare the AVP to the Meta Quest when it comes to movies and Big Screen ect. The Meta Quest is NOT 4k resolution per eye AND has a way higher PPD so its AMAZINGLY crisp as verified by literally every person who has tried it. Literally and figuratively comparing Apples to oranges. Comparing the Meta Quest 2 or 3 to the AVP is like comparing a Go Cart to a fucking Tesla. This headset is most certainly showing that the future of VR is absolutely *here now*.
Calling this an "iPad that's just floating around" really just shows you guys don't understand what this actually is; first, it has WAY better hardware then an iPad just from a chipset and MOBO standpoint, let alone the advantage of having a full entertainment center. This is more like have a macbook pro on your face, but it's saying blah blah "on your face" is such a stupid simplification of what the level of immersion one can have in VR headset THIS advanced!
I'm gonna be honest while the tech is still early if this gets to 1k in price it's thinner and lighter this will replace cell phones, tablets, phones, etc everyone will just throw on a pair of glasses more or less that can see everything out in the world. We will be walking through a town and see advertisements in this thing based on some barcode or something on a building window etc.
15:00 I'd like to remind him the existence of the Apple Pipin. Nobody will EVER beat Nintendo because Nintendo is bigger than Apple in terms of fan loyalty.
Today: who needs an iPhone strapped to your face?? No one asked for it?? 20 years ago: Don’t waste your money on a smartphone. No one uses them, just a fad. Remember that apple has YET to make a pointless product. Remember the Newton? Probably not but you wouldn’t have iPhones without it. Making something know one asked for us the definition of “Innovation” I’m so sad that these outlets do everything they can to stifle creativity and innovation within these companies…. Let’s instead be glad these strides are being made…
I'm staunch PCMR but if you think that Apple can overtake Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo in the console gaming space, your dead wrong. I have no doubt that a Gaming Apple TV would do well for them It in no way would counter the inertia that Playstation and Xbox already have.
It’s not worth $3,500 your basically paying for the screen as PSVR 2 already has eye tracking and the vision pro is to heavy at 500 grams it’s heavier than the Quest 3 it’s not worth the price of 7 PlayStation 5’s as it’s only 3.6 teraflops compared to 10.2 teraflops
You’ll prob be plugged in to an outlet most times on the couch or desk, the battery is prob the power supply like an old X box and allows to keep the battery going if you need to grab something
Its a beta for developers (3,500 its a little expensive , dont yuo think?), Of course , if yuo got the money (congrats, yuor are rich or a new Lottery winner), yuo can buy it . I think Ar/Vr is geting better , and we gone saw a lotts of new ar/vr , aka mr (mixed reallity) from other Companies
Let's get some Apple fan boys to talk about how wonderful Apple products are despite being over priced, badly engineered crap. The onlyvgood thing about Apple is they build products that work...until they don't and then they erase all your data and give you a refurbished phone. I m not a fan of Samsung either as they are becoming more Apple like as are most of the top Andriod manufacturers. Why is it we are moving to a world where you don't actually own anything you buy? I was born in a time that everything you bought came with the circuit diagram so a trained technician could fix it if it went wrong. People,are just becoming dumber especially believing in corporations which are all corrupt or have fumbass cos that buy social media platforms and destroy them.
11:05 Unless Apple did something revolutionary with how the inside-out cameras work, you literally cant get one of these to function in broad daylight; directly sunlight KILLS the cameras ability to track anything with any accuracy.
still cant fathom how someone is willing to pay for "VR" anything; games are mostly ass, and there isn't a lot of them. so all "vr" goggles are, are just big screen TV's you can strap to your face... like someone PLEASE explain the use for these
This guy has a dumb take, when apple show the iPhone for the first time the Appstore didnt exist and the phone they showcase barely worked. The amount of refinament and quality of the vision pro is just amazing for a 1.0 product and all the apps that will be available at launch is going to be massive, so wtf is he talking about?
The battery puck was a mistake. Adding a battery pack to the back of the headset would actually make it more comfortable to wear. I know it seems counterintuitive to make the headset heavier, but it’s more about balancing the weight. The headset is too front heavy with all that aluminium and glass. Adding the battery to the back would counterbalance the weight and make it more comfortable to wear.
I know someone who can easily afford the vision pro, but the 2 hour battery life is what put him off... This is just a beta AR/VR kit that you have to pay early adopter tax for it. The tech is really cool and will push the bar forward, but this is not a properly usable version. The battery can't even let you watch most movies.
Yeah, no. The price tag is as ridiculous as the 2 hour battery life but as we're talking about Apple here, it will be at least a moderate success since their logo moves products even if there's no reason to. Just because NASA designed a futuristic spoon, doesn't mean it should cost 10k.
Great video. You CAN leave the house with it for two hours, but most people will be plugged in on the couch. The eye thing is subtlety brilliant. Apple clearly does not want people “living” in the VR world for whatever reason. The entire presentation was spent showing how this device is NOT isolating or cocooning like a traditional VR set. The price and setting were designed to discourage mass adoption. Apple has reached as far as they can go with their hardware and software their engineers. This event was introducing the Vision Pro to the world’s engineers to take it to the next level.
Apple is late to the AR game. Microsoft announced hololens all the way back in 2016, so I was hopping that apple would do what they do best, and perfect an existing concept. but they haven't really done anything innovative with VisionPro. AR seems like the perfect tool for 3d modeling, and I've been waiting for years for someone to make an AR 3d modeling application. That would sell people on the concept of AR, and that it's not just a gimmick, but instead, Apple's just showcased another device to watch movies on. The hardware is impressive, but the software needs a lot of work before it's anything more that a really expensive toy, which is what hololens was.
This is a classic chicken or the egg scenario. You could wait 3 yrs and have it be small and cheaper and have no software that shows off why you need it or you can release it now and get the develops excited and have them start thinking about how to use this new tech. I for one think that Apple is doing the right thing by releasing now. If this is going the succeed the software is going to lead the way. I don't think that develops can develop leading edge AR apps on a 2D computer screen. You need to be able to figure out the best way to deliver the experience and there isn't a computer in the world that is going to translate that as well as having the actual device. Because of this head start there will be killer apps available when the light version arrives. Apple is going to take a financial hit for this but I think it is for the best. As far as the glorified iPad remark, every thing the derives from a computer is a gloried computing device. I like to focus on how these devices change how you interact with a computer. What kind of experiences can you have that can not be duplicated on any other apple device.
i have no clue why this could be worthy for anything other than keeping eye contact and/or working with apple products half decently because anything apple didn't make basically apple products fight against when trying to make them work together.
Ok, i think that tis video, will get old, approximately in one year. An iPad, was a big iPhone, now th Apple Vision, is a glorified iPad. I believe, that this product will going to be, te furure of the tech industry. Im with you, the tech is absolutely absurd. For exampke, im a lawyer (thanks to the iPad, because im legally blind) and because of that, i need to integrate tech on my workflow, to be able to work, i bought a product that is called OrCam, that thing cost 1800 alone and it is only to take pictures of documents and apply ocr to read them to the user, im almost sure, that the vision can do that, so, for someone in my situation, the cost benefit is simply extraordinary. we will remember this revolutionary product for decades.
Yes, Apple can do all those things but as a publicly traded company, they’re going to piecemeal everything for that thing called growth. Like a porn star you gotta make it last.
The thing is the Vision Pro is for professional and enthusiast level as the 1st gen. the competition that has the comparable tech the Vision is half the price of the Varjo XR3, and integration with software is far better, additionally as a sound engineer is I were to get the monitors equivalent to the size the vision pro can offer, while also enabling me to control my ipad and iphone in the same space, while editing in a serene environment can really be inspirational.. this is a declutterer for working from home. Giving developers time to adapt their apps is a great idea, as clearly the hardware seems pretty polished already. For companies already using this tech like the Hololens, Apple makes it more integrated and accessible for professionals and rich people, while still being a good deal compared to the competition. I would love to use this as a performer and dj because I can use the vision pro instead of the laptop being in the way. I would love to have an app to make different things display on the front screen. Also Mac Pro is a stop gap while they try figure out an innovative way of integrating PCIE, while leveraging the small form factor of apple silicon.
i think you are literally insane to say that price is justified. it is literally a MacBook air with with eye tracking and an extra external display most other headsets can already do this including the new PSVR. it is a $1500-2000 product at most and i don't get why everyone in tech is trying to say that price is justified when it isn't in any universe.
The thing no one in the Tech Community wants to admit is that no one outside the Tech Community actually wants VR. Apple knows it & you can tell cuz they did everything they could to avoid saying the words “VR” or “Virtual Reality.”
Even in the tech community, I myself haven't been moved enough to want to try out VR. Apple is late to the party, but wants to use its name and tech to leverage it to the public - which has worked in the past, but I'm just not sure with this product.
@@ThereMayBeLions agreed. Don’t get me wrong, the tech they demonstrated really does look groundbreaking. But… Eh? Okay, 3D videos of wonderful moments with my family sounds awesome! Wearing a clunky headset while I’m hanging out with my family on the off chance I want to grab a 3D video? Not so much.
You say this isn't like Apple to release a beta product but it literally is. They do it with every new device. They let early adopters pay for the 3rd party development.
Has nobody realised that its a prototype of the technology that will replace your iphone? It will get smaller and smaller and then more and more affordable until you have their screens in front of your eyes all of the time.
Lol apple would not take the market share of gaming in any amount of time. Definitely not less than a year at that lol. Then yall compare it to a steamdeck? I don't know a single person in real life who wasted money on that thing lol
yall talk as if apple is a world wide innovator when all they do is take old ideas and rebirth them basically in the same exact ways. with an apply ugly design ofc.
I am just waiting for the guy who will crash a car wearing these goggles. Once that is disabled, people will get creative hurting themselves with these things, or apple will lock it down to the point that people complain. Should be entertaining to see the press go nuts with this one.
i can't watch this video sorry no Austin am falling asleep he seems nice but when Austin isn't there it seems Matt is more profesinal it just isn't as fun
Says the price is ok because of the tech. Then we find out years later it doesn't cost them that much to actually make. Just like almost every apple product.
Austin looks weird hmm /s
He black😅
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New upgrade
Updated Austin 10 to Austin 11
He looks much healthier o.o must be his new workout plan
I wouldn’t be surprised if they sold additional battery packs that last longer as an accessory.
Who knew that Superman glasses were a good disguise; look how much Austin changed without his.
I think Royce and MKBHD are right: the Vision Pro is the beta.
I hope Samsung and Microsoft work together for a similar product with the Gear and Holo Lens
I will see the vision pro as beneficial when it doesn’t need the laptop. It has an M2 processor so the power is there to run applications by itself. I know the battery life would most likely be an issue in that case tho. Figure it out 😅
Someone will.. a jailbreak still has to happen for the vision pro
It doesnt need the laptop.
@@AbdulAzeez-up4nw I mean to run full Mac app. They showed it as an extension to a Mac, but not running full desktop apps independently. 🤷🏽♂️
What do you mean? That is Austin. He’s just wearing contact lenses.
Great synergy between you two 👍
This is an early adopter machine. In 2-3 years we will get the "Air" version, which will be around 1k. This first round is all about seeing what is used, what isn't used, and what they can make cheaper.
and you are burning the $3500. Apple abandons all V1 devices.. 3 years of updates and its e-waste.
@@xcreeperify I highly doubt that, but early adopters know the risk of a device like this. You can say the same literally about any V1 hardware on the market.
From what market? The people willing to shell out $3500 dollars for this aren’t the best test case for features used by everyday people waiting for a cheaper alternative.
@@TheDawnofVanlife literally all tech in our history has worked like this. Expensive at first, after time prices come down with evolutions and better manufacturing. Features are added and removed based on how the product is used over time.
@@cneubert28 ah yes the 3500 gaming console that kicked off the market how could I forget, or the 3000 IBM personal computer. Silly me. Lol all that means is that they're itching to make the R&D money back and putting it out too soon lol
Yeah, this is basically a user available dev kit.
There is also a dev kit being released in July
WWDC = Worldwide Developers Conference
This is a public dev kit, it's priced as such. There's a reason it was announced at WWDC and not a consumer product launch event.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
My hope would be some form of hot-swappable battery system. Maybe the headset itself has a tiny battery that can last 5-6 minutes, just enough time to unplug your large dead battery and replace it with a charged one.
Netflix adaptation of Austin Evans.
Did Austin get a tan?
I found the moment with the dad filming his kids with the headset to be both creepy and totally hilarious 🤣
Also, while I'm definitely not purchasing them, I am honestly kind of sad that this and the Google Pixel Fold are not going to be sold in Canada.
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Yes, because parents look so much more present behind their phone 😂
@@brandonsargent7105 Lol 😂
What Apple advertised this for doesn't justify the $3500 price point.
In its current state, it's an AR development kit that gets eclipsed by even the iPhone in terms of usability and sensibleness.
It doesn't need to exist because it's a new shiny way to do my taxes - If anything it's most likely to serve medical and industrial fields a lot more then your average Joe looking to face-time his girlfriend in VRChat with RTX turned on.
At $3500 price tag, I still have a feeling that it will not be easy to get one on hand aheah of so many scalpers.
I suspect that Apple won't be able to satisfy the demand...and will laugh at the HATERS all the way to the bank. Look for them to reach a 4 trillion dollar market cap by Q3 2024.
Ugh you’re sooo right.
I think the Vision is cool, but it's dumb. Having a magical floating screen doesn't help anything, it doesn't improve anything, and being hands free is not all that useful when you have a screen floating in front of you. It's not like you'll be making ships in bottles while you do your taxes. And, if you can't put your screen down long enough go get food, then you have a much bigger problem than this doofy little headset can solve. But, again, this thing is objectively cool.
Damn, Royce is on point. If I have to choose between a 3D reconstruction of my or a Meta-inspired cartoon avatar in a professional setting, I'm going with the 3D reconstruction every time. The price is justified when you consider it's effectively like 2 iPads miniaturized and crammed together into a thick glasses kit with a crap-ton more sensors. With all that being said, I still think this is a product no one is actually going to buy at this stage.
Sorry but I already know exactly what the purpose of the face scanning is. It's to sell or use the face scans to train AI how to better tell people apart, probably for military use like enabling drones to better target enemies for elimination, as well as give them the ability to use your face in advertising _and_ teach AI how to create brand new faces that don't actually exist, but more accurately and realistically (without needing a human to create the detailed face model). None of which is a _good_ thing.
This is more expensive than most PCs... you cannot say that that is a fair price... it's just another Apple gimmick that will be forgotten about in a bit
Did he really suggest an Apple console would bury Xbox and PS?
Someone get this dude outta the kitchen, he's done cookin'.
If this is successful I'll wait for the Xiaomi version.
If this fails more reason to bully Apple Users.
This was made for Apple Fanboys who would buy any garbage with a bitten apple logo.
I’m guessing there will be different batteries available to charge us more. This is going to take 3 to 5 years before the price really comes down, the M3 will help a lot with lower power consumption and i’m guessing one of the biggest price factors may be the two 4k plus screens.
Holy crap an iPad mini pro with an M2 processor is my dream with an OLED HDR Retina Dislplay 16 Gb Ram 120hz refresh rate is my dream.
just google glass just on a bigger screen and more expensive......
The calculator app is also alongside the inability to block no caller ID 😢
As for the battery. Most people will use this at home. The external battery pack could be big as it will just sit on the sofa. Give it a few months China will make a big battery.
I think Apple have got an excellent plan for a resurrection of 3D movies on the TV+ universe, as well as 3D gaming. One thing not mentioned, is it a stand alone and doesn’t need a phone? Therefore what is the specs for gaming abilities if it does not source the game from the phone?
The weight has been mentioned, I am amazed they didn’t go for carbon. Perhaps if they make it plastic this will enable a cheaper version.
Austin needs to give Matt a raise...dude only has one Tshirt.
Boy I can't wait to purchase my iEyes
Black mirror, nah its the beginning of sword art online ordinal scale
So it's going to be TRASH
@@maravreloaded lol not in the aspect of zones being opened uo like dungeons irl
Austin is looking fit! 😂
The vision pro is closer to a home computer(PC) than a laptop, will mostly be used at home and battery pack has just 2h of batterylife, if u consider a movie is usually 2,5 h long, but the pros are that u dont have to put a full sized pc under the table or put 3 58 inch screens on your table, just connect it to ur phone or ipad and u have the same power as a pc, 3 screens with really no size limit
Im using the term PC as personal computer
If u consider how little room you have on your table after u put 3 48 inch screens, cables and other accessories
Every single review has said after 15 minutes of wearing it they felt the weight. Can't replace a home computer where someone can work for hours with a device they need to stop using after 20 minutes because it gave them a neck cramp.
Oooo new guy is cuteeeeee 🥰
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Vision pro reminds me of ready player one
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Take over all the counsels in a day has to be the biggest lie of all time. What games can anchor that ? Nintendo has exclusives, PlayStation has spider man and God of war, Xbox will still profit due to the high names but I doubt they would win the gaming market
Mac Pro… There DEFINITELY IS A NEED FOR IT for MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF US GRAPHIC PROFESSIONALS… BUT NOT AT THE RIDICULOUS PRICE POINT! I feel like I went back in time and Apple just announced the 4500 Mac for $4799 AND it doesn't include a mouse or a keyboard! WTH Apple??!?!?
I think a $2500 price tag is more appropriate and they'd still make a nifty profit at that price. Tim Cooke has lost the plot and has got to go PRONTO!!! He lacks all creativity and is only looking to increase his departure bonus by several million dollars and it's going to tank Apple's Computer division! HOW ABOUT? They release iMacs that actually allow you to upgrade memory yourself and quite making machines that ship with less than 32GB of RAM??!?!? IT'S 2023 FFS!!!!
As for the Vision Pro… WAAAAAY TOO EXPENSIVE and WAY TOOOOOO IMPRACTICAL. What MORON wants to walk around with something like this on their head all day long? NO ONE.
As an apple tech for almost 30 years now, I'm the biggest Apple Proponent as you couldn't pay me enough to touch a windows POS long way to nowhere pile of junk, but this is going to go the way of the G4 Cube and will flop. Even at $1,000 it's too expensive BECAUSE of it's impracticality. As a GAMING DEVICE like the Oculus, I can see it succeeding, but Apple is marketing this as a wearable computer which is unnecessary and downright asinine.
Also, what if you wear Glasses??!?!?!!?????!?!?!?!? smh💡
Austin been hitting the gym.
Austin got Disney'd
okay, hearing this with a headhphone make the voice of Royce sound on par with Austin, just a little more deep xD
OMG.. this is NOT a "Beta" device, its fully out of the box WORKING with all the functionality of your computer and MORE, PLUS all the immersion content you can get. More importantly they seemed to have absolutely NAILED what literally NO ONE has done in the VR industry; REALLY GOOD HAND AND EYE TRACKING!!. You guys really don't understand what a "knocked it out of the fucking park" moment this is for the VR industry. Now the Meta Quest Pro was ABSOLUTELY a Beta Dev kit, and everyone who tried it said the same thing; hand tracking is still not there, pass through is trash, and eye tracking is crap as well. now THAT is Beta headset. NOT the AVP.
Really sick of the battery life argument as it is just wrong on 2 points:
1st: It's an MR headset that can/will/should be used plugged into a power source MOST of the time. So, compared to literally EVERY other headset that practically *requires* battery life, like the Quest 2, because they are stand alone *gaming* focused headsets, the AVP's purely stand alone content is totally minimal at this point.
2: 2 hour battery life is LITERALLY the industry standard for EVERY stand alone VR headset currently on the market. So the AVP's battery life is by definition, not bad, it's STANDARD. It could be considered bad only if there were a majority of other standalone headsets that have nearly 2 times the battery life, but since there is no such headset in existence, by definition the AVP CANNOT BE BAD.
Why is the "DAD" taking family videos in the Promo so TRIGGERING to YT reviewers ??? Why is that so different than EVERY single solitary friend and family member at a kid's party walking around with their noses buried in their phones or taking awkward and inappropriate Selfies? ...while deliberately ignoring the kids. JFC !!
4:30 literally ZERO people even HINTED or SUGGESTED people would or should be just walking around their house with this on "all the time" WHAT?. Why would even *THINK* anyone would suggest this. Why would you even do it?
6:40 People like to compare the AVP to the Meta Quest when it comes to movies and Big Screen ect. The Meta Quest is NOT 4k resolution per eye AND has a way higher PPD so its AMAZINGLY crisp as verified by literally every person who has tried it. Literally and figuratively comparing Apples to oranges. Comparing the Meta Quest 2 or 3 to the AVP is like comparing a Go Cart to a fucking Tesla. This headset is most certainly showing that the future of VR is absolutely *here now*.
Calling this an "iPad that's just floating around" really just shows you guys don't understand what this actually is; first, it has WAY better hardware then an iPad just from a chipset and MOBO standpoint, let alone the advantage of having a full entertainment center. This is more like have a macbook pro on your face, but it's saying blah blah "on your face" is such a stupid simplification of what the level of immersion one can have in VR headset THIS advanced!
I'm gonna be honest while the tech is still early if this gets to 1k in price it's thinner and lighter this will replace cell phones, tablets, phones, etc everyone will just throw on a pair of glasses more or less that can see everything out in the world. We will be walking through a town and see advertisements in this thing based on some barcode or something on a building window etc.
15:00 I'd like to remind him the existence of the Apple Pipin.
Nobody will EVER beat Nintendo because Nintendo is bigger than Apple in terms of fan loyalty.
Today: who needs an iPhone strapped to your face?? No one asked for it??
20 years ago: Don’t waste your money on a smartphone. No one uses them, just a fad.
Remember that apple has YET to make a pointless product. Remember the Newton? Probably not but you wouldn’t have iPhones without it. Making something know one asked for us the definition of “Innovation”
I’m so sad that these outlets do everything they can to stifle creativity and innovation within these companies…. Let’s instead be glad these strides are being made…
I'm staunch PCMR but if you think that Apple can overtake Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo in the console gaming space, your dead wrong. I have no doubt that a Gaming Apple TV would do well for them It in no way would counter the inertia that Playstation and Xbox already have.
It’s not worth $3,500 your basically paying for the screen as PSVR 2 already has eye tracking and the vision pro is to heavy at 500 grams it’s heavier than the Quest 3 it’s not worth the price of 7 PlayStation 5’s as it’s only 3.6 teraflops compared to 10.2 teraflops
You’ll prob be plugged in to an outlet most times on the couch or desk, the battery is prob the power supply like an old X box and allows to keep the battery going if you need to grab something
Although they did market for using on an airplane some luckily have a power socket next to seats otherwise can’t see using it for a flight
Its a beta for developers (3,500 its a little expensive , dont yuo think?), Of course , if yuo got the money (congrats, yuor are rich or a new Lottery winner), yuo can buy it .
I think Ar/Vr is geting better , and we gone saw a lotts of new ar/vr , aka mr (mixed reallity) from other Companies
Let's get some Apple fan boys to talk about how wonderful Apple products are despite being over priced, badly engineered crap. The onlyvgood thing about Apple is they build products that work...until they don't and then they erase all your data and give you a refurbished phone. I m not a fan of Samsung either as they are becoming more Apple like as are most of the top Andriod manufacturers. Why is it we are moving to a world where you don't actually own anything you buy? I was born in a time that everything you bought came with the circuit diagram so a trained technician could fix it if it went wrong. People,are just becoming dumber especially believing in corporations which are all corrupt or have fumbass cos that buy social media platforms and destroy them.
11:05 Unless Apple did something revolutionary with how the inside-out cameras work, you literally cant get one of these to function in broad daylight; directly sunlight KILLS the cameras ability to track anything with any accuracy.
still cant fathom how someone is willing to pay for "VR" anything; games are mostly ass, and there isn't a lot of them. so all "vr" goggles are, are just big screen TV's you can strap to your face... like someone PLEASE explain the use for these
This guy has a dumb take, when apple show the iPhone for the first time the Appstore didnt exist and the phone they showcase barely worked. The amount of refinament and quality of the vision pro is just amazing for a 1.0 product and all the apps that will be available at launch is going to be massive, so wtf is he talking about?
The battery puck was a mistake. Adding a battery pack to the back of the headset would actually make it more comfortable to wear. I know it seems counterintuitive to make the headset heavier, but it’s more about balancing the weight. The headset is too front heavy with all that aluminium and glass. Adding the battery to the back would counterbalance the weight and make it more comfortable to wear.
I know someone who can easily afford the vision pro, but the 2 hour battery life is what put him off... This is just a beta AR/VR kit that you have to pay early adopter tax for it. The tech is really cool and will push the bar forward, but this is not a properly usable version. The battery can't even let you watch most movies.
Yeah, no. The price tag is as ridiculous as the 2 hour battery life but as we're talking about Apple here, it will be at least a moderate success since their logo moves products even if there's no reason to. Just because NASA designed a futuristic spoon, doesn't mean it should cost 10k.
Great video. You CAN leave the house with it for two hours, but most people will be plugged in on the couch. The eye thing is subtlety brilliant. Apple clearly does not want people “living” in the VR world for whatever reason. The entire presentation was spent showing how this device is NOT isolating or cocooning like a traditional VR set. The price and setting were designed to discourage mass adoption. Apple has reached as far as they can go with their hardware and software their engineers. This event was introducing the Vision Pro to the world’s engineers to take it to the next level.
Apple is late to the AR game. Microsoft announced hololens all the way back in 2016, so I was hopping that apple would do what they do best, and perfect an existing concept. but they haven't really done anything innovative with VisionPro. AR seems like the perfect tool for 3d modeling, and I've been waiting for years for someone to make an AR 3d modeling application. That would sell people on the concept of AR, and that it's not just a gimmick, but instead, Apple's just showcased another device to watch movies on. The hardware is impressive, but the software needs a lot of work before it's anything more that a really expensive toy, which is what hololens was.
This is a classic chicken or the egg scenario. You could wait 3 yrs and have it be small and cheaper and have no software that shows off why you need it or you can release it now and get the develops excited and have them start thinking about how to use this new tech. I for one think that Apple is doing the right thing by releasing now. If this is going the succeed the software is going to lead the way. I don't think that develops can develop leading edge AR apps on a 2D computer screen. You need to be able to figure out the best way to deliver the experience and there isn't a computer in the world that is going to translate that as well as having the actual device. Because of this head start there will be killer apps available when the light version arrives. Apple is going to take a financial hit for this but I think it is for the best. As far as the glorified iPad remark, every thing the derives from a computer is a gloried computing device. I like to focus on how these devices change how you interact with a computer. What kind of experiences can you have that can not be duplicated on any other apple device.
i have no clue why this could be worthy for anything other than keeping eye contact and/or working with apple products half decently because anything apple didn't make basically apple products fight against when trying to make them work together.
Ok, i think that tis video, will get old, approximately in one year. An iPad, was a big iPhone, now th Apple Vision, is a glorified iPad. I believe, that this product will going to be, te furure of the tech industry. Im with you, the tech is absolutely absurd. For exampke, im a lawyer (thanks to the iPad, because im legally blind) and because of that, i need to integrate tech on my workflow, to be able to work, i bought a product that is called OrCam, that thing cost 1800 alone and it is only to take pictures of documents and apply ocr to read them to the user, im almost sure, that the vision can do that, so, for someone in my situation, the cost benefit is simply extraordinary. we will remember this revolutionary product for decades.
Yes, Apple can do all those things but as a publicly traded company, they’re going to piecemeal everything for that thing called growth. Like a porn star you gotta make it last.
The thing is the Vision Pro is for professional and enthusiast level as the 1st gen. the competition that has the comparable tech the Vision is half the price of the Varjo XR3, and integration with software is far better, additionally as a sound engineer is I were to get the monitors equivalent to the size the vision pro can offer, while also enabling me to control my ipad and iphone in the same space, while editing in a serene environment can really be inspirational.. this is a declutterer for working from home. Giving developers time to adapt their apps is a great idea, as clearly the hardware seems pretty polished already. For companies already using this tech like the Hololens, Apple makes it more integrated and accessible for professionals and rich people, while still being a good deal compared to the competition. I would love to use this as a performer and dj because I can use the vision pro instead of the laptop being in the way. I would love to have an app to make different things display on the front screen. Also Mac Pro is a stop gap while they try figure out an innovative way of integrating PCIE, while leveraging the small form factor of apple silicon.
14:50 the reason that MAC can never take PlayStation Xbox and Nintendo PRICE compare HTC vibe to the apple vr/ar thing
i think you are literally insane to say that price is justified. it is literally a MacBook air with with eye tracking and an extra external display most other headsets can already do this including the new PSVR. it is a $1500-2000 product at most and i don't get why everyone in tech is trying to say that price is justified when it isn't in any universe.
Interesting convo, but I am sorry Apply TV will never dominate the gaming space, lol
The thing no one in the Tech Community wants to admit is that no one outside the Tech Community actually wants VR. Apple knows it & you can tell cuz they did everything they could to avoid saying the words “VR” or “Virtual Reality.”
Even in the tech community, I myself haven't been moved enough to want to try out VR. Apple is late to the party, but wants to use its name and tech to leverage it to the public - which has worked in the past, but I'm just not sure with this product.
@@ThereMayBeLions agreed. Don’t get me wrong, the tech they demonstrated really does look groundbreaking. But… Eh? Okay, 3D videos of wonderful moments with my family sounds awesome! Wearing a clunky headset while I’m hanging out with my family on the off chance I want to grab a 3D video? Not so much.
The only people who like this product are content creators who will buy it for business use $3500 USD is not out of touch it's plain stupid
I wonder how Samsung will respond to this with their product. That's the only reason why I like Apple, is that it makes Samsung sweat
This guy sounds just like Evan ! ....maybe just maybe ... There reading a scrript
You say this isn't like Apple to release a beta product but it literally is. They do it with every new device. They let early adopters pay for the 3rd party development.
No gamer is jumping to apple as their primary device, especially with the lack of games an inability to improve the hardware.
Battery Life is not a problem at all. Most using this will be at home. There is power cord that you can plug in at home for unlimited power.
Has nobody realised that its a prototype of the technology that will replace your iphone? It will get smaller and smaller and then more and more affordable until you have their screens in front of your eyes all of the time.
Lol apple would not take the market share of gaming in any amount of time. Definitely not less than a year at that lol. Then yall compare it to a steamdeck? I don't know a single person in real life who wasted money on that thing lol
This new Apple AR/VR headset reminds me of the movie Ready Player One
If ur wearing this thing for more than 2 hours u need another hobby. Nobody should be wearing this for more than 2 hours especially out of ur home.
You guys fall short on imagination, dismissing this device. Just wait for a year (or even less) to see creativity bursting on the scene.
My profile picture is still me wearing standing in Washington Square Park wearing Google Glass
Also Meta showed the external googly eyes thing way before Apple, yet again something Apple claims but someone else thought up.
The people who tested the Apple googly eyes also said it is way too heavy and uncomfortable after 30 minutes. 😆
yall talk as if apple is a world wide innovator when all they do is take old ideas and rebirth them basically in the same exact ways. with an apply ugly design ofc.
The new Apple VR is not for common folk! I'd rather demo it at an Apple Store and leave it there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
nope matt - its not just for 6 people in this world. there are at least 6000 tech reviewer who will buiy this thing :D
I am just waiting for the guy who will crash a car wearing these goggles. Once that is disabled, people will get creative hurting themselves with these things, or apple will lock it down to the point that people complain. Should be entertaining to see the press go nuts with this one.
How can apple make AR glasses with motion etc but can't add a touchscreen to there MacBook pro or MacBook air
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I’ll wait for the Vision SE…
Apple only needs 1% of their users base to buy this to sell 25+ million units. 🤷🏻♂️
i can't watch this video sorry no Austin am falling asleep he seems nice but when Austin isn't there it seems Matt is more profesinal it just isn't as fun
I'll stick to the Rule of 3, and consider buying when the 3rd generation drops.
Says the price is ok because of the tech. Then we find out years later it doesn't cost them that much to actually make. Just like almost every apple product.
Who is gunna buy a 3500 headset without controllers and proper vr games?
What is this. Austin looks weird , if this is other person does everyone notice his voice sounds exact same as Austin
but it ain't no snapchat glasses, so the appeal is limited . . .mostly by the price tags hanging off of