Stopping Testosterone ≠ Detransitioning | My HRT Journey
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2019
- I started testosterone over two years ago, but it's been a wild ride. In this video, I talk about my choices and changes I experienced along the way. I don't emphasize enough in this video that it's also okay to not be sure if HRT is right for you! If that's you, the trans people in your life are a great research or therapy if you have access to it.
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Self diagnosing is not a good thing
And, yet we have legal weed, and alcohol.
@@felixecho lmfao smoking a joint or having a few beers is not even remotely comparable to diagnosing your self with life changing medical procedures....
@@felixecho what does that have to do with anything
Jerome Thorp and...you’re obviously using too much of both to give that stupid answer!!
Jerome Thorp Okay, Go on, because there has to be more to this...
why is it so hard for trans ppl to get on hormones but non dysphoric people can get it so easily
euphoriix I am having the hardest time so I feel this comment deep in my dysphoric soul.
You got to go to a therapist first so I think therapist need better training on finding non-dysphoric people. Also YOU SHOULD HAVE TO GO THREW ALL OF GENDER THERAPY.
Life is hard mate
That's like asking "Why it so hard for people with high anxiety to get Xanax but people just going through life stress get it so easily." Same deal.
My biggest pet peeves is how children whose mothers are manipulating them get it easily ruining their lives forever whereas people who actually need it can't access it
No hate but it's really important to go through gender therapy before and during your transition. Otherwise people who confuse dysmorphia with gender dysphoria etc etc ruin their life when that could have been prevented in the first place.
Body dysmorphia relates to seeing yourself as fat or unnattractive and specifically relates to wanting more attractive features. Body dysphoria doesn't make you want to change your sexual identity.
Eren Rodriguez Many females with body dysmorphia can hate their breasts/curves/any female secondary sex characteristics or feel uncomfortable with being female in society because of the general way women face more harassment.
She deserves all the hate she's getting lol.
I personally think Milo has dysmorphia. I don't think they have much self confidence.
Or, ya know, to avoid children being pushed into this by radical propaganda that says anything a child about their feelings must be 100% grounded in reality.
a doctor would never give me insulin without a professional diagnosis. why would it be a good thing for a doctor to give me hormones without a gender dysphoria diagnosis??
YESSSSSS, THANK YOU
Are they comparable, though? Insulin causes insulin resistance, which is frequently the root cause of so many diseases such as diabetes, alzheimer's and heart disease...
Testosterone isn't.
There's a few permanent changes that the user should know, but other than that... I don't see why it shouldn't be voluntary.
You don't need a diagnosis for tattoos, which are also permanent (ish). You don't need a diagnosis for permanently stretching ear lobes or other body parts with piercings. Etc.
@@DiThiTestosterone actually makes you more at risk for heart disease. You should probably fact check yourself before you make yourself look stupid. You don't need a diagnosis for tattoos cause wanting one is not a mental disconnection with your body. Trans people use hormones to elevate dysphoria, so why would you use it if you don't have it???
@@HarvestSchill Do you have any source?
I can only find sources for testosterone therapy causing higher risk of heart disease... for old men.
Alberto Torres testosterone is a drug with sometimes serious side effects. There has to be a medical reason to prescribe it. Similar to why I have to see a doctor to get birth control, so they can monitor things like blood pressure and other symptoms that may be caused by the drug.
I don’t see why getting T without being confirmed dysphoric is a good thing... Because non dysphoric people (aka a cis person) could get T and not only become dysphoric with the changes, but also keep actual trans people from getting hormones. 😕😕
JayIsAnEmoNobody XD yeah terrible idea tbh
How does it keep trans people from getting hormones?? It's not a limited resource
@@dakine1984 it is actually. There are European countries that are actually experiencing a shortage on T, it just hasn't been covered by the media
@@kylehughes8610 it'd synthesized from phytosterols, so the base is made from plants (often soy), which clearly isn't a limited resource. I know Austria has a shortage of testosterone gel, but among all the different application forms and brands, I doubt they really run out of it completely.
Also, wouldn't cis bodybuilders be a better enemy to hate on then? That's clearly a bigger market than "trans tenders".
@@dakine1984 cis bodybuilders? what???
if you dont have dysphoria what is even the point of taking hormones and getting surgery? why??
Attention.
to feel "special"
@6 ! they said people without dysphoria so if you have dysphoria obviously not referring to you.
If there isn’t dysphoria and there is a desire to change gender appearance, then it must come down to normalization and peer pressure.
Basically wanting to be cool/special/fit in
Insanity
It is not okay to not be sure if hrt is right for you, hrt is not a joke, don’t act like it is.
Well, naturally questioning HRT before starting is a thing a lot of trans people do. Nowhere in this video do I encourage my viewers to start HRT if they're not sure if its right for them. I say it's ok to start if you're not sure about the best form/dose/length of HRT for you.
Milo Stewart I apologize I thought you said it is okay to not know if you want to start or not, I misheard what you said. Thank you for being kind with this response.
Randomgirl715 its okay to be unsure but its not okay to be unsure & go on it anyways
The amount of creepy, concern trolling bullies in this comment section is astounding. Dear god, atleast get off the internet if you cant be decent human beings.
Mental health is something we should be aware of
hey i know this is an older video but i still wanted to comment. im really glad that you talked about this. i feel a lot of people don't understand the full scope of even trying to get HRT let alone how it feels to actually be on it. i'm so happy you we're able to do informed consent, honestly i really wish i could have done the same but at that point in my life even though i was 19, my parents felt they had both a say and control over what i did with my own body. finding a therapist who is even able to "sign off" on someone getting HRT is hard and so expensive! also knowing this stranger has power to dictate how you live your life is so terrifying. because at the end of the day, meeting with these people and having to share so much personal information, things i didn't even talk about with my regular therapist, and have it be judged and analyzed by someone you don't know who is not in your head to determine if you are "trans enough" to get medical help. it's entirely based on this person's biases (usually for binary trans people) and their opinion of if they feel you've suffered enough to be able to do something to your own body. i initially came out as nonbinary in highschool, but felt like i had to basically make myself more masculine to be taken seriously by doctors. because being nonbinary wasn't "trans enough" even though i had pretty severe dysphoria, mainly relating to my chest, voice, and uterus. eventually i was able to get on T, and the endocrinologist suggested to me by this gender therapist was extremely transphobic. she would deadname me and misgender me even though she KNEW i was there because i was trans and for HRT. she had no empathy whatsoever for my situation, even at one point saying that because i was letting my (intense) fear of needles which caused me to miss doses i "didn't want it bad enough" also she made no effort in telling me about other alternatives to the intermuscular injection (which btw is about a 2inch long and thicker gauge needle) needless to say.... i stopped going to her, and naturally i ran out of T. it wasn't till about 2-3 years later that i found an amazing doctor, he was an OBGYN but also an endocrinologist who specialized in working with trans and nonbinary people. he even had a whole form that would go in my file and on my records stating my chosen name, pronouns, and gender. saying that if anyone in the office didn't respect me or would misgender/deadname me, that he wanted to know so he could talk with them. he helped me find a new way of taking T (a subcutaneous injection that was basically an epipen of T) as well as helping me with birthcontrol options (and totally supporting me in wanting to get an IUD) he also asked me what my ideal would be when it came to medical transition, something i had never had someone ask up to this point. when I told him that I wanted hormones to help with voice changes and things of that nature up to a point, top surgery, and a hysterectomy (but not bottom surgery as most people saw it) he was so kind and supportive. saying that he wanted to help me on my path of transition and that it didn't have to be like anyone else's. i was on T for about a year (maybe more i dont remember) before I felt comfortable enough in where my body was at with changes from hormones that I stopped taking them. I'm not detransitioning, im taking it at a pace that makes sense for me, my goals, and my wellbeing.
TLDR: there's no one way to be trans, and telling someone their way of expressing who they are is wrong just because it doesn't fit your understanding or narrative needs to stop. also there's no such thing as "trans enough" its horrible and has such a detrimental impact on trans and nonbinary people's lives. just because we don't follow your path, doesn't mean ours is wrong.
« I stopped testosterone because the changes were too slow »
WELL OBVIOUSLY! YOU WERE ON T-GEL!🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Gel doesnt make the changes any slower
@@richieh5624 i guess it depends on the dose of the hormone and not the form of it
i know this was like from years ago but GOD these comments suck
I understand that NB people have dysphoria, and would likely also have dysphoria fully transitioning to the opposite, but going when going on T, you can’t pick and choose what changes you get and when. It just is how it is.
You're totally right. People need to ask questions and figure out exactly what happens on HRT so that they can decide if it's a route they want to take.
I'm nb and dysphoric about my sex-related characteristics, but since I don't want to become "the opposite", just more androgynous, I feel like T isn't the answer for me. It could easily go too far "over the middle to the other side" and just cause me "opposite" dysphoria... I gotta deal with it other ways.
Kotifilosofi
Very well said and reasonable on your part.
Why are you even taking testosterone? If you are non-binary, then gender is irrelevant to you. Why indulge in a chemical that your body will react to in such gendered ways?
I have a hypothesis but I won't mention it here. Just curious if you're going to be follow this down to the eventual, logical conclusion.
Self-diagnosis is bad reason to do any of this. I don't believe that you have any kind of dysphoria. I think you have some attachment issues regarding your family and I recommend therapy.
Get help. This is not normal or healthy behavior for you.
Oh, Lollipop.
@@Darnactheduck It means you watched the video to the end.
*Ben Shapiro leaves the chat*
Kerbal Bias *Ben Shapiro leaves the chat because he’s actually...dare he say it, afraid*
@@jakthesac5175 no he is here to destroy libtards
Kerbal Bias even gods have their limits...
JackOfSnakes - Ben has surpassed the gods
jesse blib u rite u rite
Lollipop! I'd love to see a video about Androgel and the changes that occur through that method. As someone looking into HRT I've been absolutely terrified of doing t-shots, so being able to learn about the alternative method sounds like something I'd really enjoy. Also, "I love my boy juice" is a big mood
Okay, I don’t know the full story, but can y’all just be nice to them? Like, I’m sure that they know what’s best for themself
If you don't want to be seen exclusively as male, or are wondering "how long" you should take T, DON'T TAKE IT.
Sooooo...you're going to sound like a croaky teenage boy forever? Cool!
🤣🤣🤣
if this person was dysphoric, they wouldnt sound like a girl despite having a "deep" voice
@@simplythomas1276 hence why he went back on hormones
The Wiccan Witch Of The West what does that change when this person for me would pass as female more than someone whos pre testosterone? its all about how they present and they do not present as a guy. im sorry. theyve created an image for them and try to stick to it, even tho inside they may be suffering. im a trans guy myself, and i can see that what this person is doing isnt right. they can take as many hormones as they want but if they keep presenting as a female, that clearly shows thay they do not feel like a man
3rdpapaya lmao she sounds like a smoker tbh
lollypop! i enjoyed this video, i felt it was very informing to people that might have thought that taking testosterone was just a walk in the park and even tho its hard i wish you luck in your transition! :3
Yes, let's let people who know nothing about biology and human psychology make choices that will effect them about those topics.
Let's also let the people choose which drugs and foods are harmful and poisonous (Down with the FDA) and have everyone represent themselves in a court of law. Hell, everyone preform your own surgeries, we don't need doctors to tell you whats happening to your body, I'm sure it will tell you if somethings wrong with it.
Thanks for this video. It was very insightful and I appreciate that you chose to share your testosterone journey. I have been on weekly injections now for 12 weeks. I am happy with where I am and plan on continuing for a very long time. I actually really enjoy giving myself the injections and it has been a very liberating thing for me, although I totally understand that everyone is different. I think you are right that it's important for you to enjoy all parts of taking testosterone, and if for you that means taking it slow and being on the gel rather than injections, then that is great. I wish you all the best in your transition.
“Let’s let trans people make their own medical decisions.”
NO! YOU PUT THAT SENTENCE BACK IN YOUR MOUTH! I don’t care WHO you are- trans, cis, other- you should NEVER self-diagnose! EVER! That’s so dangerous!
Is your life in order outside sex/gender? Are you educated and have valuable skills? Are you taking steps to ensure you have a good future? are you physically fit? or is life just a 24 hour non stop thinking/talking about this stuff?
Not being insulting, just generally curious how you deal with the rest of life that doesn't care about your gender/gentles
yes. this.
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I'm watching these videos and can't fathom how people think they're so interesting that they talk about themselves non stop. Holy fuck I'd run for the hills to escape this immense narcissism. I mean holy shit even people who have gone out to explore the fascinating aspects of other cultures and ocean depths don't talk about themselves this much.
Fucking narcissists are everywhere now.
I was wondering the same thing for awhile. Maybe instead of focusing so much on gender/trans issues, Milo should spend more time trying to figure out how life works as an adult. Because I can guarantee you that Milo's future boss could care less about "identity" when customers need to be served and work needs to be done. How about learning what to do to keep automobiles and household appliances maintained and running properly? Establishing a good credit score? Stuff that is actually important for the future.
Why am I not surprised
Not having to complete gender therapy to be able to get hrt?? That seems really dangerous considering how many people there are who thinks they are trans even though they are not, because so many people on social media are claiming that you for example dont need dysphoria to be trans, or are just confusing gender identity with gender expression. If someone who is not trans transitions they are going to experience dysphoria, and therefore it is really important that people go through gender therapy before doing any physical changes, to make sure they are not just confused.
Sorry if this was off topic or something i just dont think its a good idea to let people transition physically before gender therapy because of how much mis information is being spread right now, and I just wanted to say that I guess.
There are other ways than therapy to explore that. Some people needing it doesn't mean it's necessary
@@HParadoxa im pretty sure most people think they dont need it, and I know there are people who really believe they are trans even though they are not. If everyone didnt need to go through gender therapy first a lot of people would transition physically and then regret it, no matter how sure they were about the fact that they were trans before actually transitioning
I think there’s more to learn about the informed consent process. I went to the same clinic, got my prescription on my third appointment for informed consent (still far less than a year or more of strict gender therapy), stopped testosterone after more than a year, and I have no regrets
This could be a matter similar to that of tattoos: can only legally get them after age 18 with informed consent. Don’t want or like tattoos, don’t get them.
You can buy that shit on the internet, I'd rather have trans folks go see professionals who know how this works instead of having HRT be a thing trans people have to convince doctors they need. We need more education, not more gatekeeping.
Lollipop! Thank you for sharing your experience, I know it's unpopular opinion but this helped me cause I relate to being NB and deciding to go off T but not knowing what will happen. I'm sorry about all the Kalvin fans being so "insightful" in your comments section.
Thanks Milo! Lollipop btw. I've experienced some of what you had and it's complex. I'm back on injections on a low dose and I feel ya. I'm getting too much hair for my liking for example, but you can get them off. I think we can find balance, so thank you for sharing your experience!
lollipop!! im glad to see you're doing what's best for your happiness
Completely disappointed that I have to go through years of gender therapy to get on T, and you haven’t even fucking thought about it.
While uh, you do need dysphoria to be trans, I agree that people shouldn't feel required to medically transition in order to feel valid. The only reason I say dysphoria is required is because it's the key component to being transgender. Without needing dysphoria to be trans, then anyone and everyone could be trans if they wanted to, which is not helpful to our already marginalized community. I don't know, feel free to debate me if you want. I'm open to having a mature conversation on it
Why do you need dysphoria to be trans, surely anyone who wishes to transition is trans, gatekeeping behind dysphoria helps no one.
• Pasteldark • so imo I think that the actual want to become trans is dysphoria in itself, because it is discomfort with your gender. Although I would say it’s definitely not as extreme as some people have it. There’s also the concept of gender euphoria which is the opposite of dysphoria, where you feel amazing when you’re gendered correctly. So I think that literally all trans people DO have dysphoria in one way or another. It’s just not as extreme as some others have it. Like a cis person who doesn’t want to be called by anything other than their pronouns assigned at birth aren’t trans because they don’t want to be anything else, so they don’t have dysphoria. But a cis person who would prefer being called by different pronouns other than what they were assigned at birth is then socially dysphoric and has social dysphoria and then is trans. See my logic? I hope that makes sense, I like having mature and civil debates.
@@notyourdaughter666 I definitely agree! Dysphoria comes in all different intensities and someone saying that they're more comfortable as one gender than the other, getting discomfort (but not hatred) from being called the wrong pronoun, or even that they get euphoria is 100% a form of dysphoria. A lot of tucutes really do get it confused and think they don't have dysphoria when they actually do. So yes, I completely agree with you on your standpoint
Rene DeGames - You need dysphoria to be trans because there’s no other motivator to transition. From my personal experience, and the experience of many many other trans people, transition is a horrible experience that is so lengthy and feels so awful, and without dysphoria there would be no reason to do this. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition that is treated by transitioning, transitioning is not something that can be done by anyone who wishes to whenever because they do not need it. Transitioning without dysphoria is taking up resources that the trans community need, and are there is enough gatekeeping already around that, even in the UK where I’m from. Transitioning is necessary to people who feel dysphoria, whether it be just social, medical or surgical.
That being said, I do believe a lot of people who say they don’t feel dysphoria do actually but don’t label it as such because it sheds a negative light on their experiences- they want to be proud of who they are, and recognising they went through an awful experience cements the idea in some anti-trans communities heads that being trans is wrong.
I’m not saying it is required to transition to be trans, and I’m not saying you cannot be trans if you don’t label your dysphoria as such, etc. I’m saying dysphoria of some form is required to be transgender and to transition. To transition in most countries, other than through informed consent in America obviously, you need a diagnosis with dysphoria.
A lot of cis girls, especially, are misguided by more liberal communities into thinking their dislike of femininity or want to be different means they’re trans. Stating trans people need dysphoria prevents this, and allows them to grow their own identity if they are unsure, before deciding something so potentially detrimental or difficult for them. It’s a fact that a lot of trans experiences are a phase, and that’s okay. Most kids go through exploration of gender expression, and many continue it into their adult lives. However, they stay cis. There is a difference between wanting to break boundaries, and having to medically and surgically alter yourself in order to treat a condition you have. THAT is what being transgender is, and THAT is why you need dysphoria in order to be trans.
I typed that comment whilst others were replying, so other replies didn’t load aha, sorry if I repeated something others had already said
I am glad you are listening to your body/heart and doing this in a way that feels right for you
i was on hrt for 5 months before my mental health got so bad that i had to stop. it’s weird that something that helped my dysphoria immensely had also made it worse as i was so focused on the fact that i’ll never be never be a cisgender male. it had also worsened my body dysmorphia which i was genuinely not expecting to happen. hopefully i’ll be healthy enough that i can start testosterone again.
stopping testosterone for whatever reason is a totally valid decision and can give a person more time to think about their identity, recover from mental illness, etc.
Tamoxifen or aromasin will help with the test converting to estrogen. Similarly you could try an androgen that doesn't convert. Since virilization is not an issue, you could take almost any of the non aromatizing derivatives. Anavar is not very androgenic but with sufficient quantity. Trenbolone is very androgenic but i'm not sure if there is any pharmaceutical companies currently making it.
Super cool video! I think it's really awesome to show other narratives out there about taking hormones. I almost never hear stories where people don't immediately get straight into it. In fact most people talk about physical transition like it's stepping from one gender to the other, so this, including the bumps along the way and how you dealt with them, is super helpful! also lollipop.
holy shit the amount of dislikes and shitty comments ugh :( I'm so sorry Milo! just wanted to tell you that you're wonderful and your videos (and this one especially) have been so helpful for me as a nonbinary person that considers HRT at the moment. thank you ❤
thank you for posting this because it helps younger people find out what they need to do to feel gender euphoria and not being pressured to do a stereotypical staple trans masc thing to do if they feel it doesn’t help them.
Lollipop. Thanks for the life update, Milo, good to hear from you. It's always pleasant hearing you speak, which you do very well, BTW. Also, the asexual community misses you and says you can come back any time, LOL. I'm glad you're in a good place.
"i didnt have to complete therapy" mmmmkayy
It is important to make sure that you really need to be on hormones because your voice and other things will permanently change
Lollipop (:
also, if you guys had watched the whole thing you would know They aren’t detransitioning...probably if you had even read just the title of this video you would’ve gotten that
Lollipop-Good luck, Milo. Hope you find happiness no matter where your journey takes you.
going on HRT without ever been to a gender therapist is just really dumb haha
Niko Xoell yes it is
SheGotTerryDavisEyes 82 No, it shouldn’t because in some cases it can complete sterilize you, and I feel like you need to be completely prepared for that possibility before you go on hormones.
Where's Kalvin when you need him.
Link the video to him!
Lollipop 🍭
I’m glad you are making the changes to be where you wanna be milo I’m so proud of you
This sounds very similar to my own testosterone journey. Thank you for sharing your experiences
Yay! I’m always glad to find people with similar journeys!
@@MiloStewart Same here! I loved what you said about being sure about wanting to be on hrt without being sure of exactly how or for how long. I was on a low dose for 6 months last year, took a break while having to unexpectedly search for a new job (I didn't pass as male then and didn't want T complicating that) and recently did another injection to see how I felt about it. Hearing that I'm not the only one who's been through a similar path is really affirming. Take care!
I love that there are nb transition videos out there like this. They make me feel not as alone as I consider t and whether or not I want/need that. I went to an informed consent clinic, too, and then decided after talking to them, that t isn't right for me at the moment. If I do start it, I'll want to do it a lot like you- slow and probably only for a certain period of time. Thanks for the video. Also, lollipop.
OK, so having watched the whole video I have a few things to say.
NOT completing gender therapy before getting a prescription for hormones is quite simply stupid.Yes, I know gender therapy is not great! But it is necessary that you go through it so you are informed on what's going on, as well as doctors needing to know that you are completely ready and fully informed of the changes.
I'm seeing lots of people saying this in the comments already, but I'm going to say this again. You NEED to have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria (needs to be body dysphoria as well, not just social dysphoria) to medically transition. It's clear that Milo does not have this. This is likely why they have been on and off hormones, and changing doses all the time; because the changes testosterone is doing is giving them dysphoria! (I'm aware they mentioned changing dose once because of levels being too high). This comes back to needing to complete gender therapy, and needing to have gender dysphoria to go on hormones.
If you do NOT have dysphoria please please don't take hormones. Let's say you're assigned female at birth, and claim to be a trans male, BUT are completely comfortable with a feminine body and have no dysphoria. If you then decide to take testosterone, surprise surprise your body will start to look more masculine!! And you'll end up with changes that are irreversible if you take testosterone for long enough (deepened voice, receeding hairline and without sounding too crude, changes in the lower region). I noticed Milo liked a comment about not needing dysphoria to be trans which sadly doesn't surprise me.
I haven't invested too much time into learning about transitioning other than surface level information, but have begun trying to learn more because it is becoming more prominent as more people speak up about it.
I would think that as long as informed consent is available, then there is no problem. I've taken plenty of prescribed medicine and wasn't that interested in the risk because I figured the risks were unlikely to happen, but at least I knew that if I did have any symptoms, I could go back to my doctor. Taking testosterone appears to certainly have adverse side effects, but I don't know about someone using it to transition. If someone's body produces testosterone, you wouldn't want to take it unless necessary, but like Milo said, if your body is producing estrogen, then you may need a blocker to go along with your testosterone.
I think the other societal concern is this, if you aren't properly diagnosed, and are upset or uncomfortable with the results, doctors take the risk of legal action. I would think something that potentially causes major changes in a person's body is something that should be fully understood by the individual engaging in the act of taking a hormone to transition.
It would be super cool to see a vid explaining all the different methods of taking testosterone. So many people don't even know gel is an option!
Maybe they should make testosterone lollipops 🤔
WHOA your voice shook me! I haven't seen anything by you in a year, so its been a while. But best of luck to you ❤
Thank you!
I know this video is kind of old but I think you're so brave for being open about your experience on youtube in particular, where there are so many people fixated on shaming non-binary people relentlessly. You're awesome and an inspiration.
People in the comments saying that the gel is slower than shots. That's not really true, I needed to start on the gel before the doctors would allow me to switch to shots and my changes came as quickly as they possibly could (voice break after three weeks eg). You need to be on a dose that insures good testosterone levels, it doesn't matter in which form it comes.
I'm really glad you're making videos Milo. It's really nice to see people out there that are like me. I feel really blessed to be AMAB, because the changes Estrogen will give me are what I want, so I don't have to worry about looking too feminine.
Ignore all the transphobes, these videos are helping people feel comfortable and learn really valuable things about themselves ^-^.
Have a lolipop, you deserve one for these.
Why. are people so unnecessarily hateful in the comment section of youtube? Milo, this was a very interesting video for me (a cis woman) and it shed some light on why different people's transitions look very different! Thanks for the content!
I’m late to the party but I’m also afraid of injections but,,, I get someone else to injection it for me. it if you have dysphoria you find a way to get it done. I love the changes I have so far (I’m only a month on T :) HRT is a big deal and it should be treated as such, you shouldn’t just stop and start to “test” it out you should know that this is the way to go and that your going to be on it for the rest of your life. I’m ready to be a old man in the nursing home who gets weekly injections because I know that going on HRT is the only way forward for me. Basically don’t treat HRT as a fun thing it can be great but it’s work and it shouldn’t be taken so lightly.
Thank you for your honesty and openess, it has helped me and countless others i'm sure, and good luck with you boy juice! Lollipop!!
Thx (🍭) :)
I was wondering, how androgel affect your body (forms, hairs, muscles etc ) ?
Lollipop
I have vials of estradiol (injectable) that i was just never able to use because of that same anxiety. :D in anycase im on the pill now and spiro for an androgen blocker. This is a cool video ill post it on the FB page of our local support group. Please keep making videos they help us out a lot, we live in a small town and having other perspectives from youtubers etc does a lot for our community.
I do understand that these videos are labor and also it means criticism from bigots but i wanted to let you know that this work matters and we are grateful
@@christopherpavlacka ive thought about it but im afraid of the legality of it so im just gonna leave it in storage in case i run out of meds
I can't emoji, but lollypop, you amazing human xo
As much dysphoria as it causes you dont forget to do annual check ups on your breast tissue, ovaries and uterus as male hormones increase the risk of cysts and cancer (I am female but my androgenous hormones are abnormaly high)
good for you Milo, we are happy for you
Thanks for the information. Nonbinary person trying to figure out what my own experience w HRT is going to be, and a lot of what you said was really reassuring. Seems like the comment section on this one is hell so I'm not gonna be responding to anything. Thanks so much though, here's a virtual lollipop for your time --o
Good luck starting HRT! I do really appreciate the friendly comment in a sea of bad ones :^)
@@MiloStewart thank you so much!! I'm watching more of your videos and really relate to a lot of what you say, thank you so much for being out here sharing really personal stories despite the shit you seem to be met with.
I am looking for advice. If one is non-binary, I might mistakenly take this to mean neither female nor male, then how can I better understand someone transitioning or de-transitioning to/from a binary state? I work at a progressive company that accommodates and empowers its employees and want to be sure I am on the right side of things (i.e. an ally).
Lollipop
You stopped transitioning because you don't actually have gender dysphoria. If cisgender people transition without having gender dysphoria, then they WILL experience gender dysphoria by going down this route!
EyebrowDimension
Milo doesn’t seem very upset or damaged to me
going back to this comment section is so sad because this person is sharing a genuine experience. showing younger trans masc people what medically transitioning can do if they are considering it.
Awesome video! I watched the whole thing :)
Thanks!
Genuine question: what are your guy's reasoning behind this rule that in order to be trans, you need dysphoria? And what about trans people who have had, say, all the surgeries and have been on hrt who no longer experience gender dysphoria? What about people who don't necessarily feel gender dysphoria, but don't experience gender euphoria? Again, genuine questions.
Also, I am a ftm trans man who has been on testosterone consistantly for over 9 months. Also, lollipop.
Interesting video! Why so many dislikes? Jeez.
I feel like I need a hazmat suit for the comments. It's exhausting.
I know the feeling!
For the most part I've not been a fan of your videos in the past, but I can definitely say this was actually a very good and interesting video.
It's not that well discussed on such a chill level and it's definitely been something I can relate to with concerns and fears, albeit not out of "when I want to stop" but more fearful of psyching myself up for something when it should be gradual. So nice job!! I liked this one a lot, and I hope stuff keeps developing as you want from here.
Lollipop! Your voice is so deep and bright at the same time! Masculine but not super masculine... Really nice!
And really bad!
i don't agree with most of this video, but i can honestly understand the injection thing. some people just have real trouble with needles, and that can be tough. i feel you there.
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lollipop Milo. Good to see you again mate.
People in the comments pretending they know Milo and their body better than themself is so fucking funny sknsn
Hey Milo. I'm sorry people are being such shits in the comments. I'm glad you're doing what feels right for you without letting strangers on the internet dictate how you should identify or what you should do with your own body. You're very brave to share your journey, especially since you receive so much flack for it. I'm also nonbinary and I'm currently in the process of figuring out how I want my body to look and whether I want to go on hormones. It's just nice to see your journey. Keep your chin up. Lollipop.
I'm actually interested in what changes are happening. I also understand the subject is about your personal life. With that said, I don't expect any answers. Maybe some will appear in your follow up.
Q: Did you have any change in aggression? Not at all/minor/noticable?
Q: Did you have any change in appetite? Like craving different foods or just eating more?
Q: Any changes in hair? Like, hair loss or unusual areas growing in.
Q: A really personal one, so skip if you like. Has testosterone affected your sex drive any?
*lollipop*
Hormones are NOT a joke and should not be taken lightly. In cis people alone hormone imbalance plays a HUGE part in over all health, not just physical characteristics. As someone who has imbalances I can tell you first hand that even natural hormone issues effect many aspects of my life from hair production to more serious issues like reproductive health ( and I DONT just mean ability to have children) and gut health. Gut health is my biggest pain. Bc if your gut is off, many other things are off bc of that one issue. Doctors need to be held responsible for being too relaxed on who gets hormones and why. Ik its touchy, bc no one wants to be told no in these situations when they are questioning their identity, but hormones effect over all body health and function that we as human beings need to live a health life. Do not make it sound like there are no health implications bc the body is not just physical presentation or mental identification.
Can you shoot Test on your own? I work a lot of hours and can't go to the doctors often. I think I'd be afraid of having air in the needle and hitting a vein.
That gave me a lot of anxiety, too! But yes, a lot of people on t do their own injections.
Thanks for the response. Good luck to you on your journey.
I have read some of the comments here, but they get kind of boring. Akin to a flavorless lollypop.
So, there are many claims that you should not be able to get meds without consulting a doctor for a diagnosis and therapy. It seems that some doctors are willing to risk their license by going off what the patient says, informed consent. This is good enough for them, good enough for me. Many other illnesses work this way, got a cough, want codine? Fine then you are gonna need to see a specialist at least six times before they will give you that dangerous narcotic. Plus, self medication is a fine American tradition... Legal weed, alcohol, and OTC meds. My experience in and around healthcare and doctors is that risk of a med is relational to the hoops that you need to jump through to get it, UNLESS there is some other cultural reason, such as religion, for example, to make it have a stigma associated with it. And, I hear so many low T commercials on the radio, I can't buy that T is that precious. This sounds like straight up discrimination to me.
I'm straight, cis, old, white, and male. So I'm not going to really have any basis to make judgement as a member of the LGBTQ community. I'm here to learn, and I feel that there is some negativity in the form of sour grapes here. I also see trolls and feel the presence of lurkers. What I am really getting is a sort of shallow, basic, ignorant lack of empathy from the negative comments. Hey, we all have problems. There are no people who can clame exclusive rights to mental illnesses. And, we all might benefit, or not from more diagnosis. But honestly, there is no good argument made from lack of empathy, or feeling that some other person didn't meet or exceed your own personal struggle.
I say, stay alive, stay happy, work together, learn about new things, and don't be a dick to others.
Geez so many haters. I think you’re great Milo and clearly very talented in front of a camera ! Hope you pursue it professionally
But why? Have you ever stopped to ask yourself that? I doubt it.
Rozmic charisma and natural ability , guess you’re wrong
Little effect on your health? You're kidding right?
Oh Milo, I want you to be happy and safe. Take care lollipop.
Lolipop, there are so much hate on this video, Im a transwoman, Ive been on estrogen since decemeber and have no intention of stoping if ever, everyones journey is diffrent and thats okey, I hope you have a therapist who is working with you on issues of gender identity, because I do and it helped a lot
Great to hear what your experiences are like, I'm AMAB and don't want to do HRT even though I have body dysphoria as an NB person because of the cancer risks. You're very brave and a cool person, have a lollipop.
Rush Hammer cancer risks? What?
@@ohsnapitzmeganakabtstrash3704
Estrogen is a known carcinogen.
@Jake Dean
I have a body that is perceived as male, I'm androgyne.
lollipop! & thanks for talkin about this
I’m also nb and on testosterone, but at this point I’m not planning to stay on it forever. Really enjoyed the video and agree with a lot of stuff. Lollipop
i watched all the way thru :3
Lollipop....you go! 🤗
Regardless of how awesome it would be to just be able to go and get hormones... I really feel like that's unsafe and ignorant.
jesus the comments are horrible.... imo this was a very informational video!
i wish you happiness. i mean, life will always present you with problems, but you know, relative happiness.
Did u say “boy juice”
COME GET YALL JUICE
Yeah! I like my boy juice! 😊
That's great. One of my friends calls it "suave deodorant" but I'm gonna start using boy juice too lol.
How dare she assume our gender juice!
@@MiloStewart That's semen.
Does Milo think life is like Mr. Potatoe Head? Add/take away body parts and hormones willy nilly??
"My voice has stayed pretty deep" sorry but isn't deep at all, it's just got a different timbre, you can still hear your normal voice through it
Lolipop.
I love you, Milo. Keep being you. ♡
Thanks for sharing your experience with lollipops 🍭!
Ur still taking androgel??
We also want to avoid people to misdiagnose gender dysphoria because it’s a serious condition that kills trans people every year. From your friendly neighborhood trans woman.