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millyeleven9969: Please excuse my sarcasm, but I think the title tells what happened the little Pheobe. The father is literally called "killer dad" for an obvious reason....he killed his child!
I absolutely agree! This is a complete failure of the system!! My heart goes out to the witnessing officer! I cannot imagine how many times he's replayed this in his head and how haunted he is by hearing that precious little girls scream!
Dependency cases are complicated in Florida. We always want to blame the social workers but social workers make recommendations to a Judge. Then a guardian ad litem is almost always involved and they make their own recommendations to the judge. Ultimately, the judge has the final say.
@@TheNinnyfee huh? Family court is known to be rigged against men and often CPS ignores cases of unfit mothers, not to mention the massive gender sentencing disparity that enables female offenders
I was honestly thinking the same thing. There is something about his appearance that just reads psycho to me that I found myself thinking who had a child with this man
Men like this who hate their mothers and girlfriends/wives to the extreme....usually a red flag! He hated them more than he loved his own daughter. He is not insane, he's evil. No meds are gonna fix EVIL. RIP beautiful Phoebe, so sorry this happened to you.
I didn't understand why anyone would want to engage in coitus with someone they don't like. Until I realised that it's a way of being disrespectful and violent 😢
Exactly. Abusiveness is rooted in misogyny, entitlement, and a lack of empathy. Not in mental illness! The courts know better. The defense is betting on the collective ignorance of the public when it comes to DV murders like this. Men like him always claim "demon" when they're caught, but it's always based in not wanting to pay child support and wanting revenge on an ex.
Adult men that constantly complain and blame their moms for any and everything are a MAJOR red flag! Stop believing their sob stories; theyre dangerous!
At the time mom had some struggles…he got custody…then when mom was better and had her life together again she went for custody ( she had a boyfriend as well, which seemed to have caused him even more distress) and that provoked him.
@@doreenplischke2169 But if he'd been suffering from mental health problems since he was 5 years old....what were the courts thinking? His mother might have been able to take custody for a spell. Or she could have been fostered for a period. Though I do know the foster system is very dangerous. My father , my husband and my daughter in law all went through the "care system" before being adopted. And they have the scars on their bodies to prove it. Burn scars. Deliberate burns. And also they were all starved. My father's bones were permanently malformed due to the malnutrition.
@@MamaMerton Absolutely. There’s no way this little girl should have ever been left in his care. The courts, protective services should have to take some responsibility for this 5 year old. 🤬
The witnessing officer is as much a victim as that poor little girl. Goes without saying this will haunt him the rest of his life and probably influence almost every decision he makes on duty from now on.
Not as much of a victim as Phoebe... She was a baby raised by a demon and thrown to her death in freezing dark waters. But yes, he was another victim of John Chuck
I really feel sorry for this officer. Witnessing this will forever haunt him. Many officers end their life after years of torture of the memories of crimes. He will always face the question of "why did I not fire." I pray for officers that see terrible crimes or who had to fire on someone. Over 100 officers take their own life every year. 228 in 2019.
We are All God's children regardless of what he has done obviously he has mental health problems maybe schizophrenic who knows what it is but obviously he's got issues and should not have been given parental custody over a child in that state, the system has failed again the mental Health counselors he was seeing should have found a way to intervene in the child's life knowing he was acting messed up
I remember the day this happened, i live in FL. I was driving my then 9 yr old to school and this story came on the radio. My child and I were horrified hearing this. My baby asked me with tears in her eyes why this girls daddy would do that to her? I apologize to her and said i didnt know. I wasn't expecting that to be reported on a family morning show on the radio. We prayed for the family and i never play the news in the car with my kids till this day😢
@@JohnMack-f3f usually the mother is a decent parent. however in America males get custody 60% of the time that they simply show up and ask for it, despite the very vocal minute community swearing up and down that family law is skewed in the woman's favor statistics and recorded proof blatantly prove otherwise. 60% of the time a male shows up to court and says "actually i want full custody too" they get it. no lawyer or money relevant (it costs like 5 bucks to file and it's free to show up and argue otherwise if mom files) the majority of cases where men lose is because they simply didn't bother showing up.
@@patriciacurtis8990 a simple google search shows women get sixty five percent of the custody and males get thirty five. The courts have skewed for the mother for thirty years and that’s not different now. The average mother is unqualified to parent. It’s not like mothers are filling up parenting classes. I don’t even know a mother who ever even took a parenting class .
The system failed this little girl. All the adults in her short life let her down. There is no reason why a man with that kind of mental history should have been left unsupervised with that little angel. May she rest in heaven. 🕊️
I have decided that the entire child welfare set up is faulty Rewarding girls to keep babies made out of wedlock, this is perfect set up for death, abuse & neglect Stop giving $$ for just reproducing ??? Then no oversight
That is what I’m questioning here. Even his own custody lawyer called 911 and said he wasn’t ok. How did he ended alone with the child? I’m so confused.
The grandmother didn’t seem to let her down, nor did her mother. There’s also a fine line to walk when you’re the one trying to protect a child from the mentally ill person that basically owns her and has control over her. It’s not like the police could or would have done anything if they would have called. They can’t do anything to a law abiding citizen , regardless of what a dirt bag he might be. It’s for the same reason police can’t be more helpful in domestic violence situations. It’s probably his fault that the mother didn’t have anywhere to go and couldn’t keep the apartment while he left instead, which might have resulted in her having full custody to begin with, instead of him. He just pawned his daughter off on his mother, didn’t want her, but didn’t want anyone else to have her either. Once the child’s mother was able to meet the standards required by a judge, because this jerk couldn’t cooperate with her to begin with, and she was about to get partial custody, that’s when he decided to take back control by eliminating their daughter altogether. He has shown to have always been very calculated in manipulating others to get whatever it is he wants out of them.
@@lhr8833I’m assuming he got full custody, because the courts have been trying to make up for the period of time when full custody was always granted to the mother. Now it is always being granted to the father and myriad children are dying because of it.
***The motive was clear it was to punish the wife that’s not insanity lol 😂. He might be clinically insane but he knew the difference between right and wrong***
It must have been traumatizing for the police officer who was helpless in this tragic situation. 😢 My heart breaks for the daughter and those who loved her. 💔
Why did that officer not jump in immediately to save her there's no time for a ladder !!! Sorry if it only takes seconds to drown it only takes seconds to follow her in 😢
@@blondie4974 falling into the water from that height could harm you and he could have hit her too. And not likely save her by jumping from jumping too.
A psychiatrist once said to me, " the difference between Bipolar and a Narcissist is Bipolar Will always apologise and feel deeply repentent. A Narcissist will never apologise or feel remorse." The expert on the stand even stated John was manipulative and not insane. The verdict was 💯‼️ RIP little Phebe angel 🛐✝️💜🕊️
That sounds like borderline personality too - they might throw a plate at you and call you something awful if they’re hurt, but they’ll be genuinely sorry shortly thereafter. Narcissists never stop bemoaning their perceived victimhood. Or their lists of perceived slights from everyone else.
Narcissists and people who suffer from Bipolar disorder are not the same. The only similarity is impulsivity. THE TWO ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND UNRELATED ILLNESSES. People who suffer from BD and in a state of mania don't necessarily know what is right and or they have trouble knowing. Narcissists are aware of exactly what they are doing. The difference is manipulation. Narcissists manipulate.
He was definitely experiencing psychosis, yet he knew the difference between right and wrong, took measures to prevent being stopped or caught, and wants no take in his responsibility for the crime, which means he cannot be dismissed by reason of insanity.
IKR? I had a boss once that was like him. He always had dirty, greasy hair, body odour, rumpled clothes and bad breath. I actually quit a job I loved because I couldn't bear to be in the same room as him.
A loving trusting woman who saw a different man then the one we are seeing now. But go ahead and blame the victim.....he killed the child because she had left him and didn't want her regaining custody - purely revenge. Funny how very few, if any women have killed their children in revenge.
When they showed him in the clips entering the courtroom- 1. I was wondering if they mixed up the footage bc of his interrogation videos are totally different and 2. I thought about the Habsburg lineage too (it probably would have a made a more believable defense of excessive inc*st, than insanity) Glad to know someone else was thinking about it too 😊
@@unabashedlyluckynerd7148 he risks dying and possibly saves the child. But she stood up there and called for help while the child perished. The real men came and jumped in the water immediately, to find a deceased child. He was the only one with a chance to save her and he didn’t even try. A cowardly bum.
@@reggiebanksrb10 Tampa bay has some of the toughest currents and tides, very cold. No one would survive very long if they go in that water off the bridge.
@reggiebanksrb10 -- The poor kid would have been dead by the time he got there & then he'd have no way out of the water. They both would have died in seconds, minutes, you fecking PSYCHO.
I really appreciated how the difference between mental illness, and insanity, were articulated. Because this guy was definitely mentally ill, but definitely not legally insane.
Most people are not equipped To be parents. Oh of course one needs a driving license to drive a vehicle but u DONT NEED A LICENCE TO BE A PARENT. WTF ????
🇦🇺We had the same issue happen in Victoria, Australia. The father stopped at the top of the Westgate Bridge and while his sons were in the car he removed his young daughter and threw her over. He was having marital issues. Unfortunately, the little girl didn’t survive. Extended fencing was immediately erected so this would never happen again. This man knew what he did and I hope it haunts and torments him for the rest of his life.
@kurikuraconkuritas The parents were going through a messy divorce. Same reason - the father wanted to damage his ex wife and the whole family. He didn't have a nanosecond's remorse over the death of the little girl. I hope his fellow inmates in jail are making him feel something - even the worst inmates hate baby killers.
Him saying, "I threw "the child" off the bridge. Distancing himself by not using her name or saying it's his child speaks so many volumes already about where his priorities are.
When you hear the motive you know straight away that he was very aware of his actions. Ain’t no way was the daughter going to survive and he knew it 🙄🙄..
He'd be legally allowed a gun in the Midwest. Only in "gun controlled" states do they bother with a background check. Half the country thinks having to wait and get a background check means, "They're trying to take our guns." No. They're trying to prevent people like this from getting guns, and even then, they only withhold a gun if there's evidence of actual attempts.
This was deliberate. Cut the crap....he said he would ruin his mother's life and Pheobe's mother. He then set the stage to get out of the responsibility.
I’ve suffered with mental health issues all my life and I had joint custody of my two children after my divorce. If every parent who has mental health issues wasn’t allowed to have custody of their children then 90% of children would be in care!
@Shybairnsgetnowt1 people who have mental health problems shouldn't have kids to begin with. It shouldn't be allowed to keep selfishly passing down these crappy brain genetics. That goes for my parents and many other family members.
He loved her more than anything....but not a single tear or sadness for her lost life.... Mmm that's evil not love. He and his defence confused love and evil.
That poor innocent baby girl was sleeping when he threw her over the bridge! Why are these scumbags allowed around children! This is absolutely horrific! Reminds me of Chad Doerman who shot and killed his 3 sons because he was mad at his wife..This is happening more and more lately I just can't wrap my head around these sick vile people!
He was angry and said 3 days before that he would ruin his mother's life. That is not delusional. It is the defence lawyer setting up that defence to win.
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vrah there it is. An incel blaming the woman when a man literally throws a child off a bridge. You’ll always blame women. 🤦🏽♀️ get a life
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vr She wasn't a loser who killed her child.....and she had gotten her life together. Her ex husband instead of being glad for her, didn''t want that so he did what real losers do.
Arthur Phillip Freeman is an Australian man charged, tried and convicted of murdering his 4yo daughter, Darcey Iris Freeman, on 29 January 2009 by deliberately throwing her off the side of the West Gate Bridge in Melbourne. Freeman had been in custody proceedings with his ex-wife who had recently been granted more time with the children, which angered Freeman. Freeman was alleged to have said to his ex-wife minutes before the incident, "Say goodbye to your children." Lawyers acting on behalf of Freeman had claimed Freeman's actions were due to mental illness; however, this was dispelled by the custody battle revelation. Freeman was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum non-parole period of 32 years. Justice Paul Coghlan called the killing a "fundamental breach of trust", saying "What Darcey's last thoughts might have been does not bear thinking about, and her death must have been a painful and protracted one". Freeman attempted to appeal this sentence in May 2011 but was unsuccessful.
An innocent woman who was alone & scared in her house, was shot dead in the face by a cop - just because he confused her while she held a pot of hot water. Yet Jonchuck lives after killing his daughter.
So in order for him to be deemed insane. He wouldn't understand what he was doing was wrong, or understand the consequences of what he did. Then he is not insane because after he threw that child off the bridge he ran away from that cop. Which means he knew he was going to get in trouble.
Poor baby girl. My son is 4 and I can’t imagine ever hurting him in such a way. I love my kids so much. I feel so terrible for that little girl and how terrified she must’ve been.
My son will be 5 in December and he is very aware of what is going on around him. This little girl would have know what was happening to her the moment she was let go. This literally makes my stomach hurt listening to this.
I have a daughter around the age of Phoebe. This story is absolutely chilling, enraging, and devastating. That poor sweet baby didn’t deserve to have this monster as a father or even someone who should have been within 100 yards of her. He is evil, and idc if he had mental illnesses, he was manipulative and selfish and evil and knew exactly what he was doing. I hope prison justice makes the rest of his days on earth miserable every single second of his pathetic and vile existence . RIP sweet Phoebe
How did anyone let that face into their lives , I know you shouldn't judge a book and all that , but this guys face essentially shows his personality through his face.
What an evil person he is. How dare he do that to this innocent girl his beautiful daughter. No need to throw her off the bridge take her to the hospital or do something way better than committing a crime.
How this man even gained custody of the child is wild. Whats even MORE wild is that if the father this unhinged won custody of a child, imagine how utterly deranged the mother must have been not to even be considered. This poor little girl had NO CHANCE! and no future in life being born to those two dirtbags; her fate was sealed at birth. We seriously need birth licenses, these two dirtbags had no business having a child.
If a social-worker/caseworker in my country (Norway) was ever met with a "strange encounter" like she is describing on the stand here that would have been reported immediately and the child removed the same day, if not within the hour. This should have never have happened. Fly high little angel.
@@crystallc8871 yeah those and so many other ones that trick me. I usually use the feature that shows a short clip of it when you hover over it just to make sure.
How do you, as that officer, continue to live a normal life??? That would be the most...... soul destroying thing to be a part of. My heart breaks for this officer, his family and the family of this precious little girl 😢
"He believed she was possessed" lies. He's not insane. When my mum left my dad, he told everyone she was possessed and left him because of a demon. This monster is faking insanity to get out of prison.
Agreed. Any court that allows an abuser access to a child: if that child is murdered at the hands of said abuser, the ruling judge should be held equally accountable. Her blood is on the hands of that family court judge as well.
I understand your anger,but you can't accidently shoot and kill soda..I'm not saying you're wrong,but this not the fault of the Police,it's a Major fault of CPS
Sondra Massey gets shot in her own home for no reason and this dude throws his daughter off a bridge and then drives away unharmed. Make it make sense. Cops are wild.
Doesn't make sense. He's not insane enough to claim he was retaliating against his mother and mother of his daughter, but is "insane" for throwing his daughter over a bridge? Right. How could any decent attorney want to defend this piece of crap.
The fact that there is a law that will, basically, give one a pass for a crime, as horrific as this, is WILD! Florida, do better! Not to mention the fact that had he had custody of the child WITH known mental illness?!?! Was the mother of the child that far off that the people in charge of settling the custody decided the child will be better off with the father?!😳 They've definitely failed this child!
6:00 probably to punish his mother for giving him a name like John Jonchuck… There are a million and one male first names that aren’t the same as the beginning of your last name.
There was a similar story in Australia, a Dad threw his daughter of a bridge with his two sons in the car who begged him to go back as she couldn’t swim.
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The wrong person was thrown off the bridge.
facts
Did the girl get rescued?
millyeleven9969: Please excuse my sarcasm, but I think the title tells what happened the little Pheobe. The father is literally called "killer dad" for an obvious reason....he killed his child!
@@leeannjohnson1808 why the tittle say" to save her" mean?
Because he is mentally ill and in his delusional state he thought he needed to kill her to save her
My question is why was he around this child without supervision if even the social worker said he wasn’t all there?
I absolutely agree! This is a complete failure of the system!!
My heart goes out to the witnessing officer! I cannot imagine how many times he's replayed this in his head and how haunted he is by hearing that precious little girls scream!
Dependency cases are complicated in Florida. We always want to blame the social workers but social workers make recommendations to a Judge. Then a guardian ad litem is almost always involved and they make their own recommendations to the judge. Ultimately, the judge has the final say.
Patriarchal society. Men get away with so much.
@@TheNinnyfee huh? Family court is known to be rigged against men and often CPS ignores cases of unfit mothers, not to mention the massive gender sentencing disparity that enables female offenders
My
That permanent frown hes got on his face is insane.
*he has on his face
It looks photoshopped
Right?! And that underbite 😂
*hes got on his face
He looks like a movie villain
How did this guy get a date, let alone, married and have a child?! And a job, too?!
Exactly 💯 😅😅 I just made basically the same comment 😂
I was honestly thinking the same thing. There is something about his appearance that just reads psycho to me that I found myself thinking who had a child with this man
There's someone for everybody I guess.
Women gave XYs chances the XYs didn’t deserve.
Sometimes I wonder if the more unhinged you are, the more desirable you probably get. Some headcases out there.
Men like this who hate their mothers and girlfriends/wives to the extreme....usually a red flag! He hated them more than he loved his own daughter. He is not insane, he's evil. No meds are gonna fix EVIL. RIP beautiful Phoebe, so sorry this happened to you.
I didn't understand why anyone would want to engage in coitus with someone they don't like.
Until I realised that it's a way of being disrespectful and violent 😢
Well said and very true
It's definitely a red flag!!! He's not going to respect anyone if he can't respect his own mother 💯
Exactly. Abusiveness is rooted in misogyny, entitlement, and a lack of empathy. Not in mental illness! The courts know better. The defense is betting on the collective ignorance of the public when it comes to DV murders like this. Men like him always claim "demon" when they're caught, but it's always based in not wanting to pay child support and wanting revenge on an ex.
Adult men that constantly complain and blame their moms for any and everything are a MAJOR red flag! Stop believing their sob stories; theyre dangerous!
How did they give this man unsupervised custody knowing his mental issues!!?
At the time mom had some struggles…he got custody…then when mom was better and had her life together again she went for custody ( she had a boyfriend as well, which seemed to have caused him even more distress) and that provoked him.
@@doreenplischke2169 But if he'd been suffering from mental health problems since he was 5 years old....what were the courts thinking?
His mother might have been able to take custody for a spell. Or she could have been fostered for a period. Though I do know the foster system is very dangerous. My father , my husband and my daughter in law all went through the "care system" before being adopted. And they have the scars on their bodies to prove it. Burn scars. Deliberate burns. And also they were all starved. My father's bones were permanently malformed due to the malnutrition.
@@greenman6141
So sad.
That’s what I want to know!! I think all the services involved with this custody case, should be on trial too!!
@@MamaMerton Absolutely. There’s no way this little girl should have ever been left in his care.
The courts, protective services should have to take some responsibility for this 5 year old. 🤬
The witnessing officer is as much a victim as that poor little girl. Goes without saying this will haunt him the rest of his life and probably influence almost every decision he makes on duty from now on.
Not as much of a victim as Phoebe... She was a baby raised by a demon and thrown to her death in freezing dark waters. But yes, he was another victim of John Chuck
He looks creepy
Only in the photos chosen to emphasize creepiness
@@TheKrispyfort No even while sitting in court
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He certainly does have a face to match his personality.
Often judging a book by its cover is wise
Do you work in the Healthcare System?
Dang this cop climbed 70 feet down a ladder on the side of bridge to try to save that little girl 😢❤
…. in the dark!
@@simonrowe3124above cold asf water as well, I feel absolutely terrible that he had to see that. I would never be the same tbh
@@justinwatson6932 😥 You only need to look at his face when he testifies about "I heart a scared scream and a splash"....
I really feel sorry for this officer. Witnessing this will forever haunt him. Many officers end their life after years of torture of the memories of crimes. He will always face the question of "why did I not fire." I pray for officers that see terrible crimes or who had to fire on someone. Over 100 officers take their own life every year. 228 in 2019.
@@michaelgarrison688yes but that man should have no guilt. If he had shot who knows what he would be blamed for
Who would sleep with that thing? Poor baby didn’t deserve this thing in her life!
If you are talking about his looks.
Let's have a little peek see at you
@@gottogoalltheway where’s your photo
@@YaYaPaBla😅😅😅 Yours???
@@YaYaPaBla
If you want to know if I am ugly.
Yes
Yes I am
We are All God's children regardless of what he has done obviously he has mental health problems maybe schizophrenic who knows what it is but obviously he's got issues and should not have been given parental custody over a child in that state, the system has failed again the mental Health counselors he was seeing should have found a way to intervene in the child's life knowing he was acting messed up
I remember the day this happened, i live in FL. I was driving my then 9 yr old to school and this story came on the radio. My child and I were horrified hearing this. My baby asked me with tears in her eyes why this girls daddy would do that to her? I apologize to her and said i didnt know. I wasn't expecting that to be reported on a family morning show on the radio. We prayed for the family and i never play the news in the car with my kids till this day😢
So heartbreaking
If true...Why is he allowed custody of a child?? Horrific situation for any child!!
Think of the quality of mother loses custody of the child to a man like that.
@@JohnMack-f3f 100%
I’m questioning the same thing.
@@JohnMack-f3f usually the mother is a decent parent. however in America males get custody 60% of the time that they simply show up and ask for it, despite the very vocal minute community swearing up and down that family law is skewed in the woman's favor statistics and recorded proof blatantly prove otherwise. 60% of the time a male shows up to court and says "actually i want full custody too" they get it. no lawyer or money relevant (it costs like 5 bucks to file and it's free to show up and argue otherwise if mom files) the majority of cases where men lose is because they simply didn't bother showing up.
@@patriciacurtis8990 a simple google search shows women get sixty five percent of the custody and males get thirty five. The courts have skewed for the mother for thirty years and that’s not different now. The average mother is unqualified to parent. It’s not like mothers are filling up parenting classes. I don’t even know a mother who ever even took a parenting class .
Having a five year old of my own … I’m hugging her extra tight tonight … may her soul rest in peace 😢
That guy looks like complete evil…..who would lay down with that face and create that poor child? 😮
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Your comment 😂
Maybe unwise teens, just guessing.
Paper bag ?
The system failed this little girl. All the adults in her short life let her down. There is no reason why a man with that kind of mental history should have been left unsupervised with that little angel.
May she rest in heaven. 🕊️
I have decided that the entire child welfare set up is faulty
Rewarding girls to keep babies made out of wedlock, this is perfect set up for death, abuse & neglect
Stop giving $$ for just reproducing ???
Then no oversight
So sad we see so much of sheer horror children go through everyday.... Heart breaking really
That is what I’m questioning here. Even his own custody lawyer called 911 and said he wasn’t ok. How did he ended alone with the child? I’m so confused.
The grandmother didn’t seem to let her down, nor did her mother. There’s also a fine line to walk when you’re the one trying to protect a child from the mentally ill person that basically owns her and has control over her. It’s not like the police could or would have done anything if they would have called. They can’t do anything to a law abiding citizen , regardless of what a dirt bag he might be. It’s for the same reason police can’t be more helpful in domestic violence situations. It’s probably his fault that the mother didn’t have anywhere to go and couldn’t keep the apartment while he left instead, which might have resulted in her having full custody to begin with, instead of him. He just pawned his daughter off on his mother, didn’t want her, but didn’t want anyone else to have her either. Once the child’s mother was able to meet the standards required by a judge, because this jerk couldn’t cooperate with her to begin with, and she was about to get partial custody, that’s when he decided to take back control by eliminating their daughter altogether. He has shown to have always been very calculated in manipulating others to get whatever it is he wants out of them.
@@lhr8833I’m assuming he got full custody, because the courts have been trying to make up for the period of time when full custody was always granted to the mother. Now it is always being granted to the father and myriad children are dying because of it.
***The motive was clear it was to punish the wife that’s not insanity lol 😂. He might be clinically insane but he knew the difference between right and wrong***
The laughing crying emoji in the middle of your comment seems grossly out of place.
Evil and insane are not the same thing. That's where they are wrong!
Same thing with Chad Doerman in Ohio. He was mad at the Mom for getter ready to divorce him.
Being EVIL doesn’t mean you’re insane!!
They are equally the same thing, tbh.
@@chasehedges6775 legally not though
Just means you are evil
@@chasehedges6775
Not 𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗹. One does not 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗼 include the other.
@@chasehedges6775facts
It must have been traumatizing for the police officer who was helpless in this tragic situation. 😢
My heart breaks for the daughter and those who loved her. 💔
Why did that officer not jump in immediately to save her there's no time for a ladder !!! Sorry if it only takes seconds to drown it only takes seconds to follow her in 😢
@@blondie4974 falling into the water from that height could harm you and he could have hit her too. And not likely save her by jumping from jumping too.
@@blondie4974because it was too far! The officer could’ve injured himself or the girl
A psychiatrist once said to me, " the difference between Bipolar and a Narcissist is Bipolar Will always apologise and feel deeply repentent. A Narcissist will never apologise or feel remorse." The expert on the stand even stated John was manipulative and not insane. The verdict was 💯‼️
RIP little Phebe angel 🛐✝️💜🕊️
Same with spectrum disorders and narcissism.
Apologies and try to not do that again
That sounds like borderline personality too - they might throw a plate at you and call you something awful if they’re hurt, but they’ll be genuinely sorry shortly thereafter. Narcissists never stop bemoaning their perceived victimhood. Or their lists of perceived slights from everyone else.
Narcissists and people who suffer from Bipolar disorder are not the same. The only similarity is impulsivity. THE TWO ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND UNRELATED ILLNESSES. People who suffer from BD and in a state of mania don't necessarily know what is right and or they have trouble knowing. Narcissists are aware of exactly what they are doing. The difference is manipulation. Narcissists manipulate.
He was definitely experiencing psychosis, yet he knew the difference between right and wrong, took measures to prevent being stopped or caught, and wants no take in his responsibility for the crime, which means he cannot be dismissed by reason of insanity.
It's an excuse.
@@spookshow6999YES MONSTER IS EVIL
%100 Agreed
I don't think anybody is disagreeing here
His religion was a nice warm hole to crawl into with his crazy. He began being crazy, when he became religious.
Who slept with that thing?
IKR? I had a boss once that was like him. He always had dirty, greasy hair, body odour, rumpled clothes and bad breath. I actually quit a job I loved because I couldn't bear to be in the same room as him.
A loving trusting woman who saw a different man then the one we are seeing now. But go ahead and blame the victim.....he killed the child because she had left him and didn't want her regaining custody - purely revenge. Funny how very few, if any women have killed their children in revenge.
@@Juanita-gf4teWhile I agree with most of your comment, I don’t think they were blaming the victim at all??
@@crystallc8871 asking who slept with that thing is certainly victim blaming. That question alone..
Probably a woman just like him on some level.
All women aren’t pristine queens and model-esque debutantes.
13:40 The Habsburg jaw is alive and well in the 21sr century
OMG! Yesssss!
When they showed him in the clips entering the courtroom- 1. I was wondering if they mixed up the footage bc of his interrogation videos are totally different and 2. I thought about the Habsburg lineage too (it probably would have a made a more believable defense of excessive inc*st, than insanity) Glad to know someone else was thinking about it too 😊
Classic Neanderthal features.
This situation would have required an expert diver and swimmer. This poor officer probably felt hopeless. The father is a monster.
The cop is a coward. You jump in there after the child. You just do.
@reggiebanksrb10 and he risks dying and she isn't saved anyway? Seriously?
@@unabashedlyluckynerd7148 he risks dying and possibly saves the child. But she stood up there and called for help while the child perished. The real men came and jumped in the water immediately, to find a deceased child. He was the only one with a chance to save her and he didn’t even try. A cowardly bum.
@@reggiebanksrb10 Tampa bay has some of the toughest currents and tides, very cold. No one would survive very long if they go in that water off the bridge.
@reggiebanksrb10 -- The poor kid would have been dead by the time he got there & then he'd have no way out of the water. They both would have died in seconds, minutes, you fecking PSYCHO.
I really appreciated how the difference between mental illness, and insanity, were articulated. Because this guy was definitely mentally ill, but definitely not legally insane.
i cant believe they left kids alone with this freakshow
Some people should NOT be parents 💔
There are no requirements for parenthood.
Probably a little more than “some”, sadly 😞.
Most people are not equipped To be parents. Oh of course one needs a driving license to drive a vehicle but u DONT NEED A LICENCE TO BE A PARENT. WTF ????
Ya think? Wow, that’s very astute of you. 🙄🙄🙄
@@poppyrowland1385
Wow, did you learn a new word ?
You could look at him and tell something is wrong with him
Exactly what I was thinking!
🇦🇺We had the same issue happen in Victoria, Australia. The father stopped at the top of the Westgate Bridge and while his sons were in the car he removed his young daughter and threw her over. He was having marital issues. Unfortunately, the little girl didn’t survive. Extended fencing was immediately erected so this would never happen again. This man knew what he did and I hope it haunts and torments him for the rest of his life.
I remember that, I wonder why it was the girl and not the sons. A lot of men on this planet seem to hate females
Just heartbreaking 😢
but why!?😞
@kurikuraconkuritas The parents were going through a messy divorce. Same reason - the father wanted to damage his ex wife and the whole family. He didn't have a nanosecond's remorse over the death of the little girl. I hope his fellow inmates in jail are making him feel something - even the worst inmates hate baby killers.
People like that don't have a conscience.
Him saying, "I threw "the child" off the bridge. Distancing himself by not using her name or saying it's his child speaks so many volumes already about where his priorities are.
When you hear the motive you know straight away that he was very aware of his actions. Ain’t no way was the daughter going to survive and he knew it 🙄🙄..
So he says. He’s evil and wanted to get back at the wife and Phoebes mom. He said it in the phone call to his mom. Premeditated murder
Agreed. I think he hates women, and wanted to destroy any chance of Phoebe growing up to be a capable, independent woman
What's sad is that this man wouldn't have been legally allowed a gun with his mental health history, yet he was allowed custody of a child.
He'd be legally allowed a gun in the Midwest.
Only in "gun controlled" states do they bother with a background check.
Half the country thinks having to wait and get a background check means, "They're trying to take our guns."
No.
They're trying to prevent people like this from getting guns, and even then, they only withhold a gun if there's evidence of actual attempts.
This was deliberate. Cut the crap....he said he would ruin his mother's life and Pheobe's mother.
He then set the stage to get out of the responsibility.
If he is mentally ill, how could he have custody of his daughter???
I’ve suffered with mental health issues all my life and I had joint custody of my two children after my divorce. If every parent who has mental health issues wasn’t allowed to have custody of their children then 90% of children would be in care!
@@Shybairnsgetnowt1No one suffering with severe psychosis should be looking after a child.
@Shybairnsgetnowt1 people who have mental health problems shouldn't have kids to begin with. It shouldn't be allowed to keep selfishly passing down these crappy brain genetics. That goes for my parents and many other family members.
The child's mother is likely a low life to get pregnant by him.
@@Shybairnsgetnowt1I think they mean bad enough to throw ur kid off a bridge
Wasn't he the magician that melted Frosty in the greenhouse?
Excellent observation and exceptionally accurate. Trophy 🏆 comment. Long live Frosty.
I was literally about to say he looks like that diabolical magician. You nailed it!
😂 I think so
YESSS!!
I was going to say Gargamel from the Smurfs, but Gargamel smiles more.
He loved her more than anything....but not a single tear or sadness for her lost life.... Mmm that's evil not love. He and his defence confused love and evil.
This was a hard reality when it happened. The whole city mourned that little girl. Hats off to the officer who tried to save her for real
Long history of known mental health problems-- it is disgraceful that he would ever have been able to have this girl in his care.
More Chin than Brains
Hella chin
He gives Jay Leno a run for his money. Plenty of real estate for prison tats.
He is chin-sane.
Underbite only a mother could love
He might be royalty. Google the Hapsburg chin.
The long face staring back at him each night finally drove him mad
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😅
😅😂😂 Mirror, 🪞 Mirror, On the wall... 😅😊
As did it everyone!
That poor innocent baby girl was sleeping when he threw her over the bridge! Why are these scumbags allowed around children! This is absolutely horrific! Reminds me of Chad Doerman who shot and killed his 3 sons because he was mad at his wife..This is happening more and more lately I just can't wrap my head around these sick vile people!
Poor Phoebe, having this delusional insane man for a father. 😢
He was angry and said 3 days before that he would ruin his mother's life. That is not delusional. It is the defence lawyer setting up that defence to win.
Maybe if the mom wasn't a loser and left and then all of sudden wants back in
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vrah there it is. An incel blaming the woman when a man literally throws a child off a bridge. You’ll always blame women. 🤦🏽♀️ get a life
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vr🙄Yup. All her fault. Damn her for forcing her ex's arms to throw their helpless child over the railing.🙄
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vr She wasn't a loser who killed her child.....and she had gotten her life together. Her ex husband instead of being glad for her, didn''t want that so he did what real losers do.
Arthur Phillip Freeman is an Australian man charged, tried and convicted of murdering his 4yo daughter, Darcey Iris Freeman, on 29 January 2009 by deliberately throwing her off the side of the West Gate Bridge in Melbourne. Freeman had been in custody proceedings with his ex-wife who had recently been granted more time with the children, which angered Freeman. Freeman was alleged to have said to his ex-wife minutes before the incident, "Say goodbye to your children." Lawyers acting on behalf of Freeman had claimed Freeman's actions were due to mental illness; however, this was dispelled by the custody battle revelation. Freeman was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum non-parole period of 32 years. Justice Paul Coghlan called the killing a "fundamental breach of trust", saying "What Darcey's last thoughts might have been does not bear thinking about, and her death must have been a painful and protracted one". Freeman attempted to appeal this sentence in May 2011 but was unsuccessful.
He is evil. Incapable of loving anybody in the correct way. Possesive ,vengeful person😢😢😢
I can't even handle how evil this man is. He did this on purpose and tried to act like he was insane. Glad the jury seen through him.
The death penalty was made for people like him. What a shame!
DP isn’t made for anyone.
An innocent woman who was alone & scared in her house, was shot dead in the face by a cop - just because he confused her while she held a pot of hot water.
Yet Jonchuck lives after killing his daughter.
So in order for him to be deemed insane. He wouldn't understand what he was doing was wrong, or understand the consequences of what he did. Then he is not insane because after he threw that child off the bridge he ran away from that cop. Which means he knew he was going to get in trouble.
Poor baby girl. My son is 4 and I can’t imagine ever hurting him in such a way. I love my kids so much. I feel so terrible for that little girl and how terrified she must’ve been.
He looks like the dude off the original frosty the snowman cartoon. The villain professor hinkle
😂😂😂😂I had to look up The villian professor hinkle 😂😂😂😂 you are right!!😂😂😂😂
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My son will be 5 in December and he is very aware of what is going on around him. This little girl would have know what was happening to her the moment she was let go. This literally makes my stomach hurt listening to this.
was that the only picture they had of them? her in water?
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I thought it but didn't say it. I'm lke the irony of the situation 🥺
They likely chose this particular photo intentionally
John Johnchuck must be a hard name to pronounce with a underbite like that 😂
I have a daughter around the age of Phoebe. This story is absolutely chilling, enraging, and devastating. That poor sweet baby didn’t deserve to have this monster as a father or even someone who should have been within 100 yards of her. He is evil, and idc if he had mental illnesses, he was manipulative and selfish and evil and knew exactly what he was doing. I hope prison justice makes the rest of his days on earth miserable every single second of his pathetic and vile existence . RIP sweet Phoebe
How did anyone let that face into their lives , I know you shouldn't judge a book and all that , but this guys face essentially shows his personality through his face.
He has a permanent frown.
Looking at him you could tell something is off about him. Poor girl 😢 she didn’t see it coming . Absolutely horrifying.
Why should someone choose to have a baby with a guy who is obviously crazy from the get-go ? This is insane.
Anecdotal it is that such relationships include two ppl who aren’t well.
I have a friend with a mental illness,and when she has a psychotic episode,she knows the difference between right and wrong,and lawful and unlawful.
The defense is delusional to say he loved her. In my opinion.
humans are frightening
95 percent family anhilators are men . 90 percent of all homicides globally are done by men .
He doesn’t look like he should have been procreating
He looks insane
Yes but legally viable in court, as he knew that what he was doing was sadistic, abusive and wrong.
Evil
Off topic but of your last name is Jonchuck why in the world would you name him Jon? Cant just be me wondering.🤭
No. I commented just his name John Jonchuck? Weird
I live in Riverview, about 20 minutes from Tampa I clearly remember when this happened it was awful he is just pure evil
What an evil person he is. How dare he do that to this innocent girl his beautiful daughter. No need to throw her off the bridge take her to the hospital or do something way better than committing a crime.
Perhaps the mom is partly to blame?
Um did you hear the part about the mom why do women have a hard time expecting accountability
@@vosaemify She was not to blame for this in any way. He is responsible for his own behaviour. He did this to hurt the mom and ruin her life.
@@DanielGarcia-lr6vr The mom had gotten her life together and this loser couldn't stand it.
@@vosaemify why. Please explain in detail to the class.
How this man even gained custody of the child is wild. Whats even MORE wild is that if the father this unhinged won custody of a child, imagine how utterly deranged the mother must have been not to even be considered. This poor little girl had NO CHANCE! and no future in life being born to those two dirtbags; her fate was sealed at birth. We seriously need birth licenses, these two dirtbags had no business having a child.
She doesn't have to be more "deranged" he just had to have had a better lawyer!
@@unexpectedsongbird8952 Usually the parent with the highest income pays for the legal cost of the parent with the least income in family court.
If a social-worker/caseworker in my country (Norway) was ever met with a "strange encounter" like she is describing on the stand here that would have been reported immediately and the child removed the same day, if not within the hour. This should have never have happened. Fly high little angel.
🇦🇺Why, when this man has severe mental disorders, that everyone around him knew it and yet didn’t protect this poor child.
I'm glad this isn't a repost of another youtube video.
Like the Annie Elise ones? Those trick me constantly. I like her, but when I click on Law & Crime I’m expecting this type of video.
@@crystallc8871Exactly. The Annie videos.
@@crystallc8871 yeah those and so many other ones that trick me. I usually use the feature that shows a short clip of it when you hover over it just to make sure.
Not only the Annie videos- they been posting tons of cases from other sites on here like they are new. Totally disgusting.
@@crystallc8871I do to but I don’t like her language she uses
How do you, as that officer, continue to live a normal life??? That would be the most...... soul destroying thing to be a part of. My heart breaks for this officer, his family and the family of this precious little girl 😢
Women don’t allow your self esteem to be so low to date someone like this on my opinion. Take more time to get to know these men. In my opinion.
"He believed she was possessed" lies. He's not insane. When my mum left my dad, he told everyone she was possessed and left him because of a demon. This monster is faking insanity to get out of prison.
Religion mixed with poor mental health is a deadly combination
Just described 80% of the American population
Religion has nothing to do with demonic possession.
@@JohnMack-f3f there is no such thing it is self induced spiritual psychosis
He was Smoking Spice and other drugs. Dont forget that part.
@@JohnMack-f3fyes it does😂
He chose to take drugs!
YES! KNOWING that he had mental issues, he CHOSE TO MAKE THEM WORSE.
He shouldve been no where near this child. Who let this happen? They need charged too.
Agreed. Any court that allows an abuser access to a child: if that child is murdered at the hands of said abuser, the ruling judge should be held equally accountable. Her blood is on the hands of that family court judge as well.
He does not look right.
Nope. No, he doesnt.
He looks inbred
Exactly!!!
He looks inbred.
There are injectable antipsychotics that last for a month. They're great for people who are unlikely to stick with a daily medication regimen.
You mean to tell me they shoot when you have a cellphone or soda pop but not a child
I understand your anger,but you can't accidently shoot and kill soda..I'm not saying you're wrong,but this not the fault of the Police,it's a Major fault of CPS
@@danialanderson-ll9hcWouldn’t tasing him have worked ? I could be wrong ,I’m just trying to figure out if he could have saved her :(
@@noramurnane2921wouldn’t tasing him risk making him drop her?
Sondra Massey gets shot in her own home for no reason and this dude throws his daughter off a bridge and then drives away unharmed. Make it make sense. Cops are wild.
@@noramurnane2921 \me too,but you could drive yourself into a fit of rage,putting yourself in the Child's shoes
This guy's face looks just like this: ☹️
😂
This is just heartbreaking 😭
Sometimes, you just hear the name of the criminal at the beginning of the case and think, "Well, with a name like that.... 😬"
He is the one possesed with evil spirits.
He is not possessed, he is evil. He chose this.
Doesn't make sense. He's not insane enough to claim he was retaliating against his mother and mother of his daughter, but is "insane" for throwing his daughter over a bridge? Right. How could any decent attorney want to defend this piece of crap.
You don’t have a choice if you’re a public defender
If she’s a public defender she doesn’t have a choice, unfortunately it’s just part of the job. You can’t insult them like that.
Because everyone, regardless, is entitled to a defence. That’s just the law.
We have to have a defense in order to properly dig in to a case and figure it out. That's how it works.
He’s sick!!!😒
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Sick and evil
Jean Covidchek
BUT, not medically. There's a BIG difference.
What a mental case. Life- no parole
100% Correct
Florida’s finest.
The fact that there is a law that will, basically, give one a pass for a crime, as horrific as this, is WILD! Florida, do better!
Not to mention the fact that had he had custody of the child WITH known mental illness?!?! Was the mother of the child that far off that the people in charge of settling the custody decided the child will be better off with the father?!😳 They've definitely failed this child!
Who lets someone who hears voices and takes drugs to be around children?
6:00 probably to punish his mother for giving him a name like John Jonchuck… There are a million and one male first names that aren’t the same as the beginning of your last name.
Right 😂😂😂💀
Like Chuck Jonchuck 😂
Exactly! 😅
How did he manage to have physical custody of his daughter if he had all these mental health issues! Who thought she would be safe with him!!
Disgusting.Everyone failed her!
he really has the face of a cartoon nerd that turns out to be the villain all along
Gma should be charged with neglect. I don't know why she would give her to him
There was a similar story in Australia, a Dad threw his daughter of a bridge with his two sons in the car who begged him to go back as she couldn’t swim.
His jawline says it all.
Hair line looks like Chris watts too. Crazy eyes.
John Jonchuck?
How much jon would a jonchuck chuck if a jonchuck could chuck jon?
John ChinWick
So sad, what a horrific way for a child to die. Of course any crime committed against a child, by someone they trust is horrific.
Always the “mental illness” defense. Smdh
RIP little angel 👼 😢
"Mental illness" is a criminal's get-out-of-jail-free card