Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee! Complete Switch Tech Analysis + 3DS Comparison
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- The next evolution of Pokemon - or is it? Built exclusively for Switch, developer Game Freak recreates Pokemon Yellow with full 3D graphics, and a battle system influenced by Pokemon Go. However there are aspects of its design which may leave series purists tantalised to see what the next instalment holds.
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It’s funny how Super Mario Odyssey runs at 60fps but not this
It's not necessary at all in this game.
Green Maskass I know, its a turn based rpg and you don’t really need it, but still they could’ve done it.
Mario odyssey has dynamic resolution 720p~900p on dock mode
@@glorious720p_2 if it drops to 20 FPS I'm not sure 60 was realistically attainable, the frames tank hard in this game on occasion.
Bad optimization from Game Freak. This is rather unusual considering the hardware push of gen 6 & 7. It is probably unoptimized due to the lower (or shared) budget they used for developement. Of course, there is no source confirming a lower budget, but GF is developing a core title simultaneously, so only a part of the investment remained for this game.
Can you analyze the Wolfenstein 2 switch patch or warframe port already
Yes to both! Would like to see that.
I really did not imagine that these Pokemon worth an analysis but...Let's watch it. The Wolfenstein patch would have been more interesting I think. If we had a bad mind, we could imagine that you are making an analysis of Pokemon for the views.
@@thecultofcaged where? I dont find those videos
Yes please
@@thecultofcaged where?
Any game I’m unsure about, I buy on physical just in case so I can sell it if I don’t like it.
Bought this game on physical and I’m.........having a damn blast. I went in with low expectations because I didn’t like (or at least I thought I didn’t like) the changes they made.
But boy, do I love the changes. Having no constant random encounters completely changes the pace of the game. This game is easier but it’s just enjoyable. A sit back and kick your feet up from the chair kind of game. Still has all that Pokemon charm.
If you’re concerned about the lack of Pokémon battles-don’t be. Lots of trainers to fight.
Someone I can aggree with here
I never kept up with this series, but damn if looking at the gameplay here didn't remind me of why I loved the first gen.
@@chetori__ a 'pokemon' game for 'casuals'??? LOL
Why not add feature toggles to enable or disable Pokemon battles instead of that childish catch system? This would make the core fan base a lot happier. And add pro controller support!
@@leovrf Just wait a year.
6:43 "fluid 360 analogue movement"
But we already got that on Sun/Moon. You can do a ballerina dance.
or you can nearly trip if you move the analog stick rapidly
A comparison with Sun/Moon in Citra would have been a good thing, too.
When rendering the game in HD and disabling the outlines it almost looks exactly like lets go... (minus the lighting and texture quality)
The only thing i would change would be that you could fight and weaken wild Pokemon then use the Pokemon Go catch mechanic to capture them.
Coudn't agree more.
I agree, its fun but this is how it should of been. Lets wait for next hen!
+ adding Pro controller support and being able to play without motion controls, like in handheld mode.
@@DaveSimonH Yes.
Why would you hurt a pokemon to have it like you that's not relationship building.
First Spyro the Dragon, now this. I played both way back in '98. So much nostalgia. Man, I feel old...
soon Medievil ps4 remake.
Does it have a replay value for grown up people? I’m nostalgic about the music but I’m not sure if it is worth it wasting time with grinding those Pokemons
EN. Be Trust me bro, if you played Pokémon growing up you’ll love this game. Buy a physical copy and even if you don’t enjoy it you can always sell it.
Was really hoping for this, nice to see Pokemon getting some love on DF finally thank you very much for the great analysis, and here's to hope next year will be a big leap forward
I’m excited to see what they’ll do with the main one next year!
"*Ash's* hometown"
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Damn I love the work you guys do!
Where's the Warframe analysis on Switch!?!?
Exactly
@@calebpagan2226 That obviously would take longer smart ones.
Chill dud
PizzaW0lf i think you meant to say warfarm the world's best grinder simulator
Sub 720p, frame rate drops, but only minimal and still enjoyable despite that. There you go.
I personally prefer the cel shaded style of sun and moon because it has more of an artsy feel to it, but dont get me wrong this style is good but i feel like pokemon is not really suited to go semi realistic. Also i wish that they make the next entry have a Ni no kuni like art style that would be awesome
You think this looks semi-realistic? Nintendo are about 20 years behind everyone else when it comes to graphics. Nintendo games won't look realistic for 30 years.
hey df, thanks for the nice analysis. I'd love to see a warframe analysis on switch! I think it looks stunning
I think the art direction looks great, and I love that there are no random battles. I hated those with a passion and are the main reason I generally dislike Pokemon games. They make traveling and exploration such a chore. I really hope the next Pokemon game will follow this design of letting us see the critters on the map.
Youre crazy tom, the artstyle is awesome.
This kinda felt like a review rather than an analysis. I mean what was there to say? It's 30fps, it's native in both states, and it's not technically impressive for the hardware, but the solid fun game regardless.
I really wish Gamefreak, Intelligent System and Nintendo took more advantage of the Switch's power. This system is alot stronger than Xbox 360 and PS3 yet its games visuals don't come close to some of the best looking games of the 7th generation.
There isn't much to say in terms of raw tech, but it needs to be addressed that Let's Go is a very safe game. There are older games that provide a larger scale in terms of both tech and gameplay, so Let's Go really sticks out for being pretty basic. I think it seemed fitting to address the simplification of Pokemon's game design if we're talking about its technical state. It just seems like there's a lot of headroom for what could have been a better, or at least more ambitious, game.
@@sushiSlayr Pokemon let's go was designed with the intent to be a simple game. folks need to recognize that Gamefreak is not targeting hardcore fans with this specific title. So, for them to get upset that this title does not appeal to them is simply frivolous.
@@1ledluverjlp I hate that because this game is targeted to casual it suddenly has a lower quality standard.
@@jowysw From a quality aspect the games work just fine.
Was waiting for this since launch
Hard to go back to the basic gameplay after playing Moon. Looking forward to next year's game.
Great analysis, Thomas, you qtpie! ❤
Great analysis.
Are you guys gonna do Warframe next?
Video ending with the iconic GameFreak Double Kick animation. Perfect.
Awesome video! Can you do a video of Warframe on Switch please?
As usual Im thankful for yalls complex appreciation of aesthetic beyond graphical fidelity
Looking forward to the Warframe analysis on Switch.
Hopefully the upcoming core game will run at 60fps on New Switch
30fps is just fine for a slow game like Pokemon: Let's Go on the switch. I like high fps gaming (I have a 165hz monitor) but not once did I sit down at my TV and think: Wow, I love this game, but I really wished it was 60fps.
30fps is fine. It is mostly stable, and it looks great.
Toby Hinloopen mediocrity is never acceptable. If the Switch can handle 60fps games then thr next Pokemon games should be 60 fps. Besides GameFreak did make Black and White/Ruby and Sapphire run at 60fps so if they can't do it now then they're just lazy or incompetent.
@@anonymoushuman8443 BW is 60fps only in battles and 30fps in the overworld
@@anonymoushuman8443 They're not going to deliberately make it 30 if they can make it 60, but if it will be unstable and cause cut backs to other graphics then 60 isn't needed. You do realise that frame rate doesn't really make much difference to a game right? People just think it does because it's one of the easiest things to quantify. Console gamers have been perfectly happy playing fast paced FPSs at 60fps and other games at 30, so I think you'll be fine playing Pokemon at 30.
Thankyou for this video i knew viridian forest was leggy but didn't know why. Also the display on my TV, which is 1080p, made me think I got scammed or something cuz i knew it should look better than this. But nope u gave me all the information I was looking for. Thankyou
Please do a Comparison about The Forest released for Ps4 like 2 Weeks ago, i cant find out what Performance Mode does and how the Framerate and Resolution is 🙏🏼
As a disabled gamer I'm pissed off that you can't use the pro controller. I'm a C6 quadriplegic and was looking forward to this game. Since I can't use my hands properly I can't this game.
Pokémon Let's Go is somewhat more casual compared to the core games but it's still great. Walking with Pokémon, Soul Silver-esque should be obligatory already and the removal of random Pokémon in grass is a blessing. I hope the next generation have this and even more things.
But not being able to battle wild pokemons, only throw pokeballs is dumb as heck.
@@vectress opinions
vectress eh, i thought it was dumb until i played it. Its actually exciting in a way
@vectress Wandering around the wilderness beating up hordes of wildlife in a game that's supposed to be about harmony with the ecosystem has been dumb as heck this whole time. There needs to be a more interesting way to get your battle training fix than the boring and ridiculous random battles. I would much prefer more features for fighting challenging trainers as much as I want.
@@vectress i think it makes sense from a storytelling standpoint. most wild animals don't want to 'fight', they want to flee. it's only when they're trained to compete against each other that they fight. honestly it makes the game's world much more logical and internally consistent.
Can you do videos on Just Cause 4 (In 4K) and Smash Bros Ultimate when they come out?
The Double Buffer V-Sync also kicks in during Koga's Gym occasionally when Docked, particularly during the Pre-Battle cutscene. Otherwise, it feels mostly solid whilst docked.
Koga's gym fps was the worst.
ProtoMario it dropped for pretty much no reason
Thank you Thomas. Good video
DF can you analyze GTA XVI on the Embedded Vision Sensor?
Oh wait... What year is this again?
200,000,000 ad at the rate they are going...
Thanks for making this!!!!!!
DF, can you guys please analyze Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna Golden Country? From what I’ve played it looks and runs better than the base game.
TheNotoriousFerg By this point, I’m convinced that they’re either getting lazy or.......they’ve been holding off due to avoiding wanting to spoil the game. I mean, I remember a few moments (i.e. the final battle) where the framerate drops to at least 10-15 fps.
it does perform better but there's still issues here and there espically during the final boss fight that hits below 20fps at times
Monolith made torna on a new engine which helps improve performance and effects
@@Drilbit It's not a new engine, its the same as Base XB2 just made it more stable, still has drops regardless
At first I thought the same, but the more I advance in the game, the more heavy fps drops I find, specially in battle. I would say thought, that the exploration is much improved.
I hope Let's Go is just a steeping stone towards Pokémon 2019.
If this what the next generation of Pokémon on an HD console is gonna look like, I'm gonna be very disappointed. After Mario and Zelda, I'm expecting great things from Pokémon's true next gen game. It's a Nintendo prime IP and I'm expecting it to deliver.
I honestly prefer the new graphical look. Granted, I really want something that's an evolution of the graphical style used in Colosseum, XD, and Battle Revolution, the previous console Pokemon games(Well, lite titles, they weren't full titles, and Battle Revolution was just a battle arena for your Pokemon.), or even use Pokken Tournament's graphics.
I think the locked isometric view was a gameplay decision. It seems like it would be easier for newer people to the series. Especially children below the age of 7.
Na seems like for 12 year olds
It's not an isometric view? No Pokémon game has been to my knowledge.
it also works well as a middle ground between remaking the top-down view and having a more modern over the shoulder style. it feels like an homage.
@@ArconaSorry your right, but I typed this after I watched the video and left before I realized I meant top down.
Y’all gotta take a look at Warframe on the Switch ASAP
Facts
I'll have to admit, I chuckled at the dropped frame slowing down the game. This game is so old school, it even brings back that little effect from the 90s. Old games did this as well. Newer games opt to just skip the frames to keep the speed constant.
Yeah, I definitely felt that slowdown in portable mode. That said, despite a relatively safe approach, I was pleasantly surprised by this one!
Besides Viridian Forest, I also experienced a bit of frame-rate slowdown in Koga's gym when you see him use double team with the smoke effects and all the other trainers in the background. Not a big deal though.
I heard the Gen 8 followup will be using a different engine and art style.
As someone who has played up until the 5th gym I can say that slowdown on the portable versions is very common in certain areas and really chugs it. I've noticed it slowing down a lot in the menu system when there's a lot of wild pokemon on screen.
Yeah there's a hell of a lot of lag all over the map it's not just Virdian forest. I've only played in handheld though I'm not sure if it's the same for docked.
idk I’m just used to the old style
Let's Go is much more fun than the youtube videos describe them. It's the right amount of new & nostalgia. I'm having much more fun than I anticipated.
I would love too hear your thoughts on Star Citizen!
Anybody remember playing Yellow and using the famous glitch? I remember trying so hard to avoid battles and constantly save and reloading. That Mew though!
Warframe Switch Port When?
Keep on it you r the best
With the pokeball plus this has been one of the most immersive gaming experiences for me this year. Between rdr2s immersive world and Pokémon let's go's immersive gameplay, I have trouble sitting down and deciding which to play. I honestly thought I wouldn't play another game other than rdr2 this year, but boy, this surprised me! And yeah I almost forgot about ultimate for a sec there, damn it Nintendo. My wallet hurts.
This channel is TOP NOTCH !!!!!!!🥇
Can you please do a warframe Switch analysis?
I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not I might of missed it. But can you transfer pokemon from let's go to the pokemon go app? I know you can send them from the app to the switch game.
You cannot.
I'm surprised they didn't bring up the framerate drops when opening a menu outdoors with wild Pokemon on-screen. It makes me feel like I'm actually playing Pokemon Go.
I know! It feels a lot more laggy than they said. They only played 5 hours though, it lags more past the first few cities
I have 4 badges so far, heading to the 5th, and I've yet to feel a single framerate drop. I've mostly been playing on dock though but still.
@@raiderify It's a handheld mode thing.
@@r.j.etrogames
I haven't had any lag outside viridian forest
@@doodlebob3374 Really? I've had loads of lag, docked and undocked in menu transitions, model animations in the Pokedex, and in big cities like Fuchia near GO park.
I remember playing Pokemon Red back in the day, my brother played Blue. That was my first and last Pokemon game and that way it shall stay.
Valkyria Chronicles 4 PS4 Pro analysis, please! You guys are killing me! 😭
Nothing matter the game I'll always tune in for df
If you use a lure in veridian forest while docked the frame rate drops tremendously. It chugs very hard when more Pokémon are spawning in detailed areas even docked.
I had a lot of fun with this game, while its much simpler than the more recent 3DS titles, I think it was a good first entry for the Switch. Let's be honest here, this was a smaller project that was made so that they could get a shit ton of sales while we wait for next years game. I would love a big innovation on the formula, like what if they make it into a big less linear open world game with a 3rd person perspective with a fully moveable camera and stuff? The world would have to be designed around that major change of course and it could be cool. In terms of changes Let's Go made I like having a Pokemon box on me and I like that you run into pokemon for an encounter, if they returned to a weaken first- and then capture system but keep the gyro that would be cool.
2:38 Yo what's up with the trembling hand, you good?
7:01 : I think there is a difference between docked and portable. Docked must have antialiasing, characters are smoothed out much more than just 720p->1080p would bring.
Can you analyze the Rocket League patch? (Long overdue)
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu is a lot of fun. Can't wait for the 8th gen Pokémon game!
Wow, the demo PoD I saw must've had some *impressive* motion interpolation, because that literally looked like 60fps with a weird 'jutter' here and there when I was standing besides the dude playing this on a 60'' 4K TV lmao.
Am I the only one that hated the camera moving in and out while walking around in gen 6 and 7? And Colliseum and XD (Even in gen 5 I guess). The static camera is 1000 times better in my opinion. Either give full control of the camera or leave it alone. Game freak made the right call there IMO, and I'm personally hoping it's the same in gen 8.
I want gen 8 to have a fully controllable camera. There's absolutely no reason to not have full camera control.
Yeah, having the camera move around but not letting you control it is just the most annoying tease a game developer can do.
With better shadows and lighting, that art style will age very nicely, I think.
I think I would have preferred a cell shaded look, but there's something still charming about what they went with.
Glad I don't have nostalgia goggles, because the comparison between the original pokemon and let's go shows just how much better game freak's art style and graphics department as become today.
@Finn The Goldfish Yeah, the original Pokémon game looks pretty bad, didn't age well.
Pokemon has come a long way
Playing Lets Go Eevee right now and had these framedrops in the forest at that exact spot and thought DF is on that shit xD
Df can u please analyze paperboy for the nes
The sad part is that LGPE are definitely the best looking mainline Pokémon games
This game is such a joy. I love it.
You read my mind. The old Gameboy games are very charming. I've never been into these games but if I wanted to play one I would go back to the originals.
I expected a more in-deph comparison to the 3DS titles (beyond the use of cell-shading and camera angles), especially Sun and Moon, considering Lets Go is using the same engine and reuses a lot of the Sun and Moon assets.
Any chance on dong warframe and the xenoblade DLC?
You guys are missing the point that this not the next main line Pokémon game. It’s meant to be as simple as possible. Why would you fault it for a simplified navigation and less dramatic camera? This video is pretty pointless.
Let's Go is mainline.
Cant wait till the next core Pokemon game comes.
Apparently this is different from the actual main games, meaning that the game and its structure might be changed either a little or a lot for the next games on switch, so we can still hope
i never had a basic pokemon game just borrowes from friends or something evem though i only play nintendo but all i can say is i love this game so much😍 its so cutee
That original gameboy music ❤️
The new wild encounter system is better tbh. Flawed motion controls aside there is much more to it than the older games, instead of just using Tackle 1-2 times then pressing the Pokeball button, most Pokemon behave differently and you have to practice throwing Pokeball while also making it go through the ring at the right moment. It's flawed yes but better than the very simple and outdated system from older games. GF should take notes from Let's Go to improves the wild encounter system in the 2019 games, assuming they go back to letting you fight wild Pokemon.
Technically this game feels quite pathetic, very Gamefreak. Playing it I am surprised at how enjoyable it is, the removal of random encounters is a breath of fresh air, I look forward to that change in future entries, wild battles would be enjoyable if they came back. I am not a hardcore pokemon guy, I can see the frustration for those fans, but as we know there is a new main series game coming I think it is important to just enjoy this for what it is. A solid 7/10
The video kept saying how much of the new game mechanics they've got rid of, but I think that's a good thing. The games nowadays are just adding new stuff in to try and stop the series stagnating and not for any real reason. The games are, like every game nowadays, way too easy to complete. Getting an exp share that works for the whole party right at the beginning of the game? Why don't you just give me my starter pokemon at level 100?
4:20 Praising the original for the top-down view because it has a lot of character.
6:25 Scolding Let's Go for not having the over-the-shoulder view of 3DS games.
???
The nostalgia goggles are engaged
I had the same reaction.
Found it weird as well, but perhaps the first point is a personal view, while the second one is a technical view
Digital Foundry should stick to tech analysis and keep their game opinions to themselves.
@@smRexosaurus I mean, 3 people disagree with you as of right now. I don't think I'm wrong. It literally says "Tech Analysis" in the title, the video should be one 100% of the time, which it was most of the time in other videos. This one just feels like forced venting.
If ever a game NEEDED technical analysis.
Pokemon Blue was legendary! I loved that game
I’ve been playin since red and I love the let’s go games, im not crazy abt catching Pokémon in Pokémon go style but I can over look it I hope we get let’s go johto someday
I finally made it to fuschia and it seems the switch wont recognize my galaxy s8 :( looked online and tried every work around and nothing worked
Warframe on Switch analysis please!
I found Switch Portable mode framedrops when I am using HM from Eevee...
If you play pokemon Ultrasun and moon in citra 1080p or 4k without line shader it looks exactly like this. I think pokemon lets go is just an intro on what the current hardware can do using the existing game assets.
Honestly, the original 151 were the best by far and the art direction/camera angles work well with this. While the angles in bigger cities in later installments give it more scale, it didn't really add anything to gameplay. I believe this game set out to do exactly what it wanted to do - a bridge between the next major installment in the series.
I must admit at first I heard about that Game and its changes I was not hyped after those easy 3DS Games. Yes its also easy but damn I have so much fun that Game
Warframe analysis please :D
Wait you can rotate camera before the sun and moon? Anyone can elaborate on this?
While the graphical comparison bits with the old games were great, there were some rather odd comments in there about the gameplay itself. Given that it has been quite clear since the announcement that this was a spin-off and never intended to be the 'next-gen' of mainline Pokemon.
For all that it's a Yellow remake gameplay wise I'd compare it more closely to the Genius Sonority games on GC, as they also focused on trainer battles and had a non-standard method for Pokemon capture.
Let's Go is a mainline game and was never considered a spin off.
@@durkadur27 The Pokemon Co. announced that they are working on Gen 8 Pokemon for 2019 right as they announced Let's Go. This is a late Gen 7 game with closer integration with the Pokemon GO app than it has with Pokemon Bank or any of the other games. You could debate the semantics around my use of the phrase 'spin off' all day long, but I believe my meaning is clear enough.
@@MisterLindsay remake =/= spinoff
I've already spent 22 hours playing it and obtained only four gym badges, that's how much I'm enjoying the gameplay
I mean, it looks great. It’s clean, it’s colorful, it’s charming, but yeah I agree something is missing. Can’t really say what, maybe a slightly more realistic look would work better, as weird as that sounds. Or just bring back a cel-shaded and drawing lines look.
It just has no personality. Looks very flat and sterile.
I personally think it would have been better to stay in 2d graphics for Pokemon overworld and 3d for the Pokemon. I mean 3d dead eye trainers in the field just doesn't work. It would be cool I guess if it is 2d with a modern take. Kind of like octopath but better I guess
Also this idea will save them budget which they can use for making the interactions better, the gameplay better, and the over all look in battle.
Base Revolt While I love Octopath Traveler’s art style, and it would indeed be a good fit, I have always dreamed of a fully fledged 3D Pokemon game with a 3rd-person view and lush worlds and landscapes and 3D Pokemons running around and more dynamic battles.
In short, I’d rather have them continue to push in that more modern 3D direction instead of going back to the old 2D style as “modernized” as it may be.
They haven’t nailed it yet, whether it be on 3DS or with the “Let’s Go” games, but if they’re more ambitious with the main one for the Switch they might just get it right.
@@MerryBlind while I agree to some extent, I'm merely talking about the fact that they are very lazy while trying to be ambitious. NPC's are robotic, they are trying to make pokemon world 3d while still retaining the 2d laws of the world. It just doesn't look good to me. There are a lot of games whose NPC's are a lot interactive. I mean in this game, they literally just rotate 180 degrees like a fucking ghost when you talk to them behind. It bugs me why they couldn't make a few frames for the same model since they constantly reuse them anyway. Therefore, if they are going to be lazy anyway, why not be lazy in an innovative way. It just looks unfinish and given a $60 price tag.