It would be better to quickly switch within the song several times especially when the singer of the trumpets are holding a note for longer. This way it would be better to compare the exact same musical sound at that time.
The tubes sound so good. It’s less harsh but actually has good high treble. You can tell this sounds awesome live. With UA-cam the transistors sound more clear but live I think the tubes warmth and upper treble would sound more clear and less distorted.
Within a few bars of the 2nd track I thought 'that's gotta be valves', more texture to the vocals, nice demonstration again Mr Ahn and thank you. Hope I'm right.
Ok I put on my headphones, no computer speakers for me. Switching between 0:49 and 3:49 the difference is striking. The first clip seems airy, holographic with a sense of 3 dimensional space. The second clip seems veiled by comparison. I would guess that number 1 is the tubes as that's what my tube amps sound like but I could be wrong. In any case I enjoy Number 1 more.
Thanks for the test. 1 sounds more "open" and a bit distorted, 2 sounds more transparent, but the differences are not huge. However, I expect another test using more detailed and defined sources like Sheffield Lab CDs, and another test for lossy tracks (like 128kbps MP3). If I had a descent amp like yours this will be the first thing I try.
Very good.But I have an amplifier(home made since 1999-still work-output stage have BD 240 transistors). I was do the same with one plan of rca output stages.With this amplifier is very difficult feel the difference.Thanks
To me it sounds like the vocals are coming room a different spot in the room between the two, so sound stage is different. First clips vocals seemed centered, second clip off vocals seem off to one side. Vocals also sound like they project further in space on the second clip with some reverb and echo. Instruments sound further apart in the second clip. More pronounced on speakers, but planar headphones have enough stage to hear it too.
지적하신 그대로 입니다. 스펙트럼 분석하면 바로 나옵니다. 아주 약간 다를 뿐입니다만 그게 큰 차이입니다. 그래서 저는 "진공관앰프 소리가 좋다"고 절대 말하지 않습니다. 이 업계에서 5년 구르다보니까 편항된 시각과 미신을 믿는 서양사람들 무척 많이 만납니다. 오늘 올린 블루투스 음질 들어보시면 차이 거의 느끼지 못할겁니다. 좋은하루되세요.
MOS FET 는 원래 진공관과 비슷한 음색인데 유튜브 환경에서 구분이 쉽지 안을듯, 앰프가 바뀌는 시간을 표시하시면 좋지 않을까요? 궁금해서 여쭤봅니다, 다른분들 비교 테스트는 기기가 바뀌는 순간 음악이 끊어지고 바뀌는걸 쉽게 알수있던데 선생님 동영상은 어째서 음악이 끊어지질 안나요?
진공관과 고체소자의 음질차이는 분명히 있고, 누구나 쉽게 그 차이를 알 수 있습니다(저의 집사람이 그러하듯이). 저는 청음의 객관성을 유지하기 위해 동일 곡을 각각의 앰프에서 재생하여 두번 녹음합니다. 그리고 미리 촬영한 영상들을 곡의 중간중간에 삽입(비디오 인서트 편집, 오직 영상만 편집)합니다. 이렇게 하면 청취자들은 어느게 어느것인지 알수없습니다. 시각에 의존하지 말고 청각만으로 판단할 수 있도록 영상제작합니다. 이렇게 해야만 진정한 블라인드 테스트가 가능한 것입니다. 몇일후에 설명을 더 보충한 한글버전 영상 나갑니다. 소중한 의견 감사합니다. 세영
@@YoungAhn As I said in another comment it would be better to frequently switch during the song especially when the singer of the trumpets hold a note. You just have to say indicate the switch with number 1 and number 2 everytime you switch. Then let them decide which is which.
I know this song very well. The voice was never "crisp". I'm listening on a bluetooth speaker via laptop. (hardly ideal) But, I'm getting better clarity, definitely "presence" and the "s" sounds are crisper with the tube amp.
Although I like these video. Unless there is a follow up video breaking down the subjective subtle differences then its just two recordings of the song played over phones, laptops,Bluetooth or dac. It would be nice to have a breakdown in your specific room while listening to both. On that note like the sound of the second one as it feels more open to me.
@@YoungAhn I am going to listen with headphones right now! I have old tube amps from the sixties and a more "modern" solid state amp from the seventies. Love them both.
I don't hear that much of difference of the sound to pay money 4 it. I listened on speakers that r not so cheap. I do hear the difference though. But it may b my preamp who interferes in test.
I find comparison videos placed on UA-cam completely useless. I love the theory behind things and the conspiracy theories behind the ideas, but by the time all the digital processing is done, there is no warmth left in the sound. Even if the older technology had warmth, it is gone by the time all the processing and compression is performed to get a video to my computer / phone / tv via UA-cam.
Hi sir, thank you for your comment. I worked for network TV as a sound recording engineer. Digital multitrack 32 channel recorder was used to eliminate hiss noise and efficient 2 channel mix down processing. Crystal clear sound master tapes were delivered to LP manufacturers. It was digital revolutionary trend from 1980' in music industry. Thank u. Young
@@YoungAhn Great point and I agree digital technology in that use is superior. I was more hinting at UA-cams processing for saving bandwidth not really making it the ideal comparison platform 🙂.
Thanks for your comment. IMHO, I agree with you but I can't agree with you in some parts. Tube amps use OPTs to match impedance so some part of harmonics are decreased resulting soft hearing feelings. And because of hysteresis curve, sound is naturally comoressed. It's same if SS amp output stage is coupled with OPTs. There are lots of hi quality SS amps and could be better than tube amps. Have a great day Young
I’m doing a sound comparison tonight - Pioneer SA-3000 vs Pacific Creek e34i. Pioneer SA-3000 by miles. Oh hang on, the tube amp is starting to warm up now……Nah Pioneer (maybe - not sure).
It would be better to quickly switch within the song several times especially when the singer of the trumpets are holding a note for longer. This way it would be better to compare the exact same musical sound at that time.
Yes I know sir, I'll. Thanks.
The tubes sound so good. It’s less harsh but actually has good high treble. You can tell this sounds awesome live. With UA-cam the transistors sound more clear but live I think the tubes warmth and upper treble would sound more clear and less distorted.
Cant beat vocals of tube power !
I prefer the vaccum tubes because I heard the piano most clear and the entire sound Is More familiar.
Thanks for the comparison Young Ahn...I like tubes more
Hi, thank you very much. 😃
Within a few bars of the 2nd track I thought 'that's gotta be valves', more texture to the vocals, nice demonstration again Mr Ahn and thank you. Hope I'm right.
Yesir, a little differences but that's big difference. Thanks again 😃👍
Well UA-cam compresses the sound. You would have to be in the room to have optional conditions to judge.
Dont know if A or B is tube, but I like A more, Its more open and airy. all air was gone on B. A sounds more live, B more like a recording.
Thanks for watching my videos. Have a great day. Young
I thought the exact same thing.
i love the second brass instrument and vocal more lively. the first more modern style sound may suit the new style music.
👍
Ok I put on my headphones, no computer speakers for me. Switching between 0:49 and 3:49 the difference is striking. The first clip seems airy, holographic with a sense of 3 dimensional space. The second clip seems veiled by comparison. I would guess that number 1 is the tubes as that's what my tube amps sound like but I could be wrong. In any case I enjoy Number 1 more.
Thanks
Thanks for the test. 1 sounds more "open" and a bit distorted, 2 sounds more transparent, but the differences are not huge. However, I expect another test using more detailed and defined sources like Sheffield Lab CDs, and another test for lossy tracks (like 128kbps MP3). If I had a descent amp like yours this will be the first thing I try.
Thank you for yozr great comment. I will try later.
Little sound difference. I prefer tubes. Hitachi, always one of my favorite components. Tq. I enjoy sound comparisons.
Glad you like them!
Very good.But I have an amplifier(home made since 1999-still work-output stage have BD 240 transistors). I was do the same with one plan of rca output stages.With this amplifier is very difficult feel the difference.Thanks
Thanks
To me it sounds like the vocals are coming room a different spot in the room between the two, so sound stage is different. First clips vocals seemed centered, second clip off vocals seem off to one side. Vocals also sound like they project further in space on the second clip with some reverb and echo. Instruments sound further apart in the second clip. More pronounced on speakers, but planar headphones have enough stage to hear it too.
Thank you so much
@@YoungAhn no, thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to record and upload this.
Also UA-cam compresses audio. It's limited if you want to convey subtle yet distinguishable differences. But a nice try anyway.
명확한 구분의 선을 주지 못했네요. 히타치는 중음이 살아 있어 스피커 앞으로 떨어지는 음, 805는 뒤로 떨어지는 음, 프리앰프 차이가 아닌가요?
음은 앞으로 또는 뒤로 떨어지지 않습니다. 좀 더 구체적인 설명이 추가된 한글버전 영상을 몇일후에 게시할 예정입니다. 댓글 감사드립니다
FET Amp 가 Tube amp 보다 산뜻하고 약간 발랄한 ? 느낌이 드네요.
역시 두 기기 소리 모두 좋습니다.
음악 또는 악기 소리에 따라 제가기 좋은 음질을 재현 해 줄 것 같습니다.
지적하신 그대로 입니다. 스펙트럼 분석하면 바로 나옵니다. 아주 약간 다를 뿐입니다만 그게 큰 차이입니다. 그래서 저는 "진공관앰프 소리가 좋다"고 절대 말하지 않습니다. 이 업계에서 5년 구르다보니까 편항된 시각과 미신을 믿는 서양사람들 무척 많이 만납니다. 오늘 올린 블루투스 음질 들어보시면 차이 거의 느끼지 못할겁니다. 좋은하루되세요.
@@YoungAhn So which one do you prefer? Or do you prefer one over the other for certain styles of music?
MOS FET 는 원래 진공관과 비슷한 음색인데 유튜브 환경에서 구분이 쉽지 안을듯, 앰프가 바뀌는 시간을 표시하시면 좋지 않을까요? 궁금해서 여쭤봅니다, 다른분들 비교 테스트는 기기가 바뀌는 순간 음악이 끊어지고 바뀌는걸 쉽게 알수있던데 선생님 동영상은 어째서 음악이 끊어지질 안나요?
진공관과 고체소자의 음질차이는 분명히 있고, 누구나 쉽게 그 차이를 알 수 있습니다(저의 집사람이 그러하듯이). 저는 청음의 객관성을 유지하기 위해 동일 곡을 각각의 앰프에서 재생하여 두번 녹음합니다. 그리고 미리 촬영한 영상들을 곡의 중간중간에 삽입(비디오 인서트 편집, 오직 영상만 편집)합니다. 이렇게 하면 청취자들은 어느게 어느것인지 알수없습니다. 시각에 의존하지 말고 청각만으로 판단할 수 있도록 영상제작합니다. 이렇게 해야만 진정한 블라인드 테스트가 가능한 것입니다. 몇일후에 설명을 더 보충한 한글버전 영상 나갑니다. 소중한 의견 감사합니다. 세영
@@YoungAhn As I said in another comment it would be better to frequently switch during the song especially when the singer of the trumpets hold a note. You just have to say indicate the switch with number 1 and number 2 everytime you switch. Then let them decide which is which.
sounds identical
What Sony turntable is that? I have a Sony Ps-LX5 and I think it's great. Sony had some good stuff
direct drive. Thanks
@@YoungAhn Oh I meant what model?
For me, B sound is better. B sound is wider and deeper.
👍thanks
Sound about the same. Still prefer tubes :-)
Thank u very much for your support !!!!
Yeaa tube sound plus transparency and velocity and dinamic sound compliment mister, than you.
You don't know which is tube sound, right?
Yes move plus dinamic range.
Thank you
is the second track valve /tube amp ?
Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes I think so.
I feel that #2 is tubes
I know this song very well.
The voice was never "crisp".
I'm listening on a bluetooth speaker via laptop. (hardly ideal)
But, I'm getting better clarity, definitely "presence" and the "s" sounds are crisper with the tube amp.
A great Canadian band & singer, I bought this LP at garage sale. Have a great day
Although I like these video. Unless there is a follow up video breaking down the subjective subtle differences then its just two recordings of the song played over phones, laptops,Bluetooth or dac.
It would be nice to have a breakdown in your specific room while listening to both.
On that note like the sound of the second one as it feels more open to me.
One thing is for certain, my computer speakers stink regardless of the amplifier.
Thanks
@@YoungAhn I am going to listen with headphones right now! I have old tube amps from the sixties and a more "modern" solid state amp from the seventies. Love them both.
I don't hear that much of difference of the sound to pay money 4 it.
I listened on speakers that r not so cheap. I do hear the difference though. But it may b my preamp who interferes in test.
I find comparison videos placed on UA-cam completely useless. I love the theory behind things and the conspiracy theories behind the ideas, but by the time all the digital processing is done, there is no warmth left in the sound. Even if the older technology had warmth, it is gone by the time all the processing and compression is performed to get a video to my computer / phone / tv via UA-cam.
Hi sir, thank you for your comment. I worked for network TV as a sound recording engineer. Digital multitrack 32 channel recorder was used to eliminate hiss noise and efficient 2 channel mix down processing. Crystal clear sound master tapes were delivered to LP manufacturers. It was digital revolutionary trend from 1980' in music industry. Thank u. Young
@@YoungAhn Great point and I agree digital technology in that use is superior. I was more hinting at UA-cams processing for saving bandwidth not really making it the ideal comparison platform 🙂.
Thank you
#2 tubes
Yes sir. Thank you
Yeah, let's judge that trough our smartphone speaker...😃
Thanks
Why old technology sound better than new technology?
Thanks for your comment. IMHO, I agree with you but I can't agree with you in some parts. Tube amps use OPTs to match impedance so some part of harmonics are decreased resulting soft hearing feelings. And because of hysteresis curve, sound is naturally comoressed. It's same if SS amp output stage is coupled with OPTs. There are lots of hi quality SS amps and could be better than tube amps. Have a great day Young
I’m doing a sound comparison tonight - Pioneer SA-3000 vs Pacific Creek e34i.
Pioneer SA-3000 by miles. Oh hang on, the tube amp is starting to warm up now……Nah Pioneer (maybe - not sure).