The Lloyd Evans Scandal: The Aftermath

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  • @judithrivera6399
    @judithrivera6399 Рік тому +50

    Lloyd I don't know much about this trash talk, what I do know is that your channel was one key factor in my waking up process and I am so so very grateful for your work and your content. I am not one to comment much but I felt an obligation because your work was golden in my process. I hope that you will take this time to heal from hateful attacks towards you, you have awesome positive energy and no one deserves to rob you of sharing that with the world❤

  • @ComeUnaFarfallaLibera
    @ComeUnaFarfallaLibera Рік тому +26

    Dear Lloyd, even if I'm not personally an Ex JW nor is such any of my family members or close acquaintances but I'm still here for a personal interest in the matter and your soothing voice so relaxing after hours of work. Recognizing the importance of what you've done so far and hopefully will continue doing in any form, wish you all the best!

  • @veronicaduncan6455
    @veronicaduncan6455 Рік тому +75

    JWfacts woke me up 10 years ago. I've never cared about hatemongers, got enough of those inside the cult. Sorry for all the crap you and Tibor went through. You are tough to have kept going despite all of it. Thank you for your channel, always.

  • @giantredstar162
    @giantredstar162 Рік тому +93

    Just wanna thank you Lloyd for your activisms and dedication throughout the years in regards of exposing jw's cult, their doctrines and leaders. You very much helped me escaping this poisonous cult. Please keep sharing your thoughts and points of view from this platform, no matter what the horde of disgusting elements might have to say about you. Your work is really appreciated, I can guarantee you that 💪🏻

  • @danielmatthews8080
    @danielmatthews8080 Рік тому +27

    This is disappointing… you helped me wake up and saved my and my children’s future lives from so much cult heart ache….
    Your private life is your business and I’d like to continue to benefit from your input on JW’s. Chin up Lloyd 🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @Chris-zh1ff
      @Chris-zh1ff 8 місяців тому

      This guys an apostate bro come back Jehovah loves yuoxxxx

  • @MJBsays
    @MJBsays Рік тому +83

    Tibor and that "if Tibor is gracious" line will be missed. Thank you Tibor for all the work you did in this channel.
    Secondly, Lloyd, I have no doubts in my mind that you'll do well in whichever work you decide to take on. I fully understand the decision, and even if there hadn't been the hate campaign, dealing full-time with something such as a cult it's tolling on mental health, so always expected it'd end eventually.
    But as you said, the archive created in these past 12 years will always remain of help to those looking to research the WT. Thank you for all you've done Lloyd.

    • @joe-g4j7d
      @joe-g4j7d Рік тому

      I’m sure he’s glad to get alway from this loser

  • @beautyRest1
    @beautyRest1 Рік тому +110

    I don’t like certain exjw that just rant in other peoples private business and who knows what they are doing secretly! Keep going Lloyd! We need you!

    • @Theinfamouskiki411
      @Theinfamouskiki411 Рік тому +16

      Sadly but not shockingly I've cussed many out online! I've been worldly for over 20 years now so I have no patience for the uptight so called gatekeepers in the exjw community!!

    • @der1222
      @der1222 2 місяці тому

      @@Theinfamouskiki411 when people leave JW only for them to join an even cringier and more controlling group

  • @milordlouis-jeune1567
    @milordlouis-jeune1567 Рік тому +32

    Be strong and keep fighting the haters. You are a good man. You helped a lot of people find clarity and peace of mind. For that, the world is a better t place today. Be proud of your accomplishments.

  • @LoXena
    @LoXena Рік тому +48

    That's crazy, all those people acting high and mighty as if they never made mistakes. Now they invent scenarios get angry about it.
    I hope you will see the end of it very soon.

  • @moniquedelaney7958
    @moniquedelaney7958 Рік тому +21

    I will miss Tibor . I will keep following you despite the fact that some of your detractors are much stronger than you in one area ; Vulgarity is their most memorable particularity .
    You, Lloyd , keep up the good work and take good care . 😊

  • @hootal379
    @hootal379 Рік тому +78

    What a shame! Lloyd's content has been the best, clearly explaining doctrinal errors and presenting accurate history of the JW movement. By far the most thoughtful and articulate person exposing the falsehood and hyprocracy of the organization. Truly sorry about the villianzination his character over the quality of his content.😢😢😢

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Рік тому +1

      Totally agree!!!! These haters don’t understand that they are playing right in to watchtowers hands! Wouldn’t it be wonderful if ALL exjw would be United in the same goal?! We would be more powerful!!

  • @chilliems
    @chilliems Рік тому +40

    I’m a never JW who developed a big interest in it due to your videos. I will really miss the content, thank you for producing it and good luck with wherever life takes you. I’m sorry you’ve been through this, we are all flawed and you didn’t deserve it.

  • @Violetismyrealname
    @Violetismyrealname Рік тому +13

    Lloyd, your channel helped me to become brave enough to question my indoctrination when I was pregnant with my first child and a few years later I shared your channel with my sister and she also shed the JW belief system. I hope that you continue to heal, enjoy good times in your life and help so many people through your work.

  • @javerymann1540
    @javerymann1540 Рік тому +105

    Lloyd, sorry to hear that the Tibor era has come to an end. I’m sure you don’t need us to tell you how valuable your efforts have been for the community (whether they all appreciate you or not). Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @classicalgasemission
    @classicalgasemission Рік тому +20

    I'm so sorry you have to go through all this crap, Lloyd. Back when I started working on de-brainwashing myself, I found the "famous" ex-JW forum and spent some time on there. I was actually somewhat appauled at how many of the ex-jws on that forum treated newcomers who were either genuine JWs or those who were doubting. I eventually left the forum due to it's leader and some of the awful ex-JWs on there. Finding your youtube channel was a breath of fresh air. I thought, "Finally! An Ex-JW who can set a good example of how to treat other JWs and doubters!" You've paved a worthy path on helping people out of the cult. Regardless of what others say, you've done excellent work and I hope one day that I can shake your hand and thank you. At the very least, I would welcome an on-camera interview on my experience (perhaps when my JW mother passes in the somewhat near future). There's lots I'd love to write, but I don't need to be filling this comment box. All I can do is wish you the best on your future endeavors. And to those who wish to continue harassing Lloyd, my promiscuous past would probably make Lloyd look like a saint, so feel free to harass me instead :)

  • @adobahbotchway
    @adobahbotchway Рік тому +14

    "Lloyd, we love you for assisting thousands, including me, in escaping from the JW cult. All we want to say is, THANK YOU.

  • @anitaknights3472
    @anitaknights3472 Рік тому +48

    Lloyd, I have been a patron of yours for some time now simply because I am motivated to show you my appreciation for the videos (is that old fashioned terminology 😂) that you have made that have helped me to finally face the fact that I was raised in a cult. It’s not just the information that you have presented but the way you present it, the way you reason about each subject; it sits right with me and I really appreciate the effort you, Deanna and Tibor have put into your channel over so many years. I really cringed watching the footage of the Lloyd haters. Directing such venom at another person is just awful. It seems that some ex witnesses just replace their membership of the religion with membership of another group that gets the same sick satisfaction of crushing people in order to inflate their own self importance. Anyway, I totally disregard that bullshit, I’m just interested in the content that you present and, as long as I can afford to do so, I will support your channel whilst it continues to help people to break free from whatever cultish crap they have been born or drawn into. Thanks Lloyd X

    • @francesrichardson7723
      @francesrichardson7723 Рік тому +7

      Totally agree. Behaviour mirrors that of their former cult.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Рік тому

      ​@@francesrichardson7723they are still mentally IN!!!! These folks were so toxic as JWs, even THEY couldn't stand them and so they kicked them out!

  • @bevbranje3045
    @bevbranje3045 Рік тому +22

    Love your work Lloyd. Im sorry you have all this nonsense to deal with. Please hold your head high and continue. You are the BEST exjw activist/ channel etc. Cheers😊

  • @neenee6393
    @neenee6393 Рік тому +27

    This is so unfair to you!!! I’m so sorry!😭😡Please protect your mental health! YOU are supported & loved by many! Please stay focused on your girls & your work. 💪🏾🫂❤

  • @jvdoe9714
    @jvdoe9714 Рік тому +25

    Wow NO more rebuttals??? That’s what makes you channel so worth coming back to because your incite helps those who JUST came out WITHOUT a bunch of jokes that older ones wouldn’t understand. PLEASE RECONSIDER your decision to not do rebuttals…at least do the monthly broadcast or just the conventions !!😢

    • @ashleycantrell9844
      @ashleycantrell9844 Рік тому +4

      The longer the video and the longer he goes without uploading the more the money he's losing. It's alot of time and money to edit those long videos

    • @crimnclove1970
      @crimnclove1970 Рік тому +1

      Ugh…can’t stand e-begging.

  • @truthseeker3140
    @truthseeker3140 Рік тому +29

    Thank you Lloyd for all your hart work in exposing this harmful cult. Not only have you caused many to leave this abusive cult, you have prevented thousands from joining. Your hard work has prevented so much suffering. You deserve every penny you earn and I hope others consider contributing to your channel so that you continue to make these videos.

  • @presentmoment22
    @presentmoment22 Рік тому +13

    Thank you for helping me and so many others. The reality of my life is, I was born into a cult. I didn’t realize that even after being out for over 20 years. I had one of your videos playing and something clicked in my mind. I stood up in my office and said out loud, “I was raised in a cult!” It was rotating the focus ring on a camera and things became very sharp indeed. So, thanks mate. I wish you all the best.

  • @amysharples4789
    @amysharples4789 Рік тому +42

    All I can say it’s really pathetic that it has come to this.
    You by far are the best content creators of activism I have seen in the ex Jw community.
    They are doing a disservice to every ex Jw or Jw whom are wanting help by carrying this on and putting you out of service.
    Remember their anger and backlash is a reflection on them and how they feel about themselves. x

  • @Gingergurl61
    @Gingergurl61 Рік тому +68

    So sad. Thank you Lloyd for all you have done for me and others!

  • @apostateturtle1960
    @apostateturtle1960 Рік тому +17

    It is so hard coming out of a cult. Every time I think I'm recovered and I don't have PTSD anymore, it turns out that I still do. So sorry that people are taking advantage of your being a person like all the rest of us

  • @izabelarivera5211
    @izabelarivera5211 Рік тому +9

    This is so sad. I am gutted! Please take good care of yourself and your family. Your content was crucial to my waking up so I will be forever grateful.

  • @vivianlundahl3829
    @vivianlundahl3829 Рік тому +40

    Dear, dear Lloyd, it is those who have attacked you that I have lost respect for - not you. I left the JWorg about 6 years ago and I frequently watched videos from many other activists, but it was you that helped me the most by far. I don't even know if I would still be alive if not for you and your channel. I have always loved the fair, honest and balanced way that you presented the information, as a opposed to those who were crude or angry in their delivery of information. You gained my trust and respect from the first time I saw your videos. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you have done, and I am so saddened and dismayed that people would waste their time on attacking a fellow ex-JW rather than focusing on the real culprit which is the JW cult that has wrecked so much havoc in their lives. I can't even grasp why ex-JWs would want to turn on one another. Like an old song says "Together we stand, divided we fall". Take care of yourself, dear Lloyd. Sending you hugs, love and gratitude.

    • @karenwestberg5838
      @karenwestberg5838 Рік тому +4

      So very well said!

    • @Eric_01
      @Eric_01 Рік тому +8

      Very nice sentiments.
      Just to throw in two cents on "why", I think it's all just part of being damaged, angry, disillusioned, and if shunned, still very much in pain. Then, once you add into the mix the competition of clicks and likes, things just go haywire and a LOT of these channels are only existing to whine and complain from their cars. They're not doing research and trying educate on anything. Just dismiss them. That someone is an exJW just isn't enough of a common ground to overcome so many personalities and motivations.

    • @loriw2661
      @loriw2661 Рік тому +2

      Beautifully expressed! As to why…jealousy & damaged JW brains.

  • @freddybaumgartner3096
    @freddybaumgartner3096 Рік тому +15

    As a species, we truly love hurting and attacking each other. Stay strong!!! 💜

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 Рік тому +20

    Hi Lloyd, I'm sorry to hear your situation is still so difficult! Yours is my favourite ex JW channel by far: your videos are well researched, your presentation style is clear and logical, you are great at showing up the fallacies of JW doctrine. Your private life is yours alone, and I've never believed for a minute that you engaged in any criminal activity. The videos these other people have put out are muckraking of the worst type, really. I wish you all the best, and Tibor as well!

  • @Vicki_Benji
    @Vicki_Benji Рік тому +47

    Some people have nothing better to do than bother others. It's sickening. These people need to worry about their own lives. Any Ex JW doing this needs to stop. I hope you are able to hold them all accountable, Lloyd.

  • @suziekew33
    @suziekew33 Рік тому +26

    Dear Lloyd, I am sooo sorry that you have had such a hard time of it. I want you to know that you have helped me SO VERY MUCH with your videos! I very much appreciate your even-handed way of discussing matters. You are so funny, and entertaining to watch...all the while sharing well-researched and profound information. You are so well-spoken - maybe you have a future in journalism or some sort of broadcasting? 😊 Sending out a BIG THANK YOU to you, Lloyd!!! Thanks from Canada, for all the excellent support you have provided throughout the years!!! 😀❤❤❤

  • @gem1819
    @gem1819 Рік тому +31

    As a viewer who has only benefited from this channel, of course I was disappointed when I learned what Lloyd had done but that never changed my support for the channel/work. I will admit I had a hard time watching after the break only because UA-cam no longer offered videos from this channel, I had to go out of my way to find them. Regardless, I appreciate the work you do

  • @anitaknights3472
    @anitaknights3472 Рік тому +8

    Oh and thanks Tibor, you have always been gracious 😊🥰

  • @enpersonetsted1444
    @enpersonetsted1444 Рік тому +9

    Hey Lloyd!
    Just want to Thank you! Your videos helped me and my family to wake op.
    I was a minesterial servent when I woke up.
    I suceeded in waking my wife op, and we godt out with our 2 boys (2 and 5 years old now)
    Its the best decision we have ever made!
    Thank you for your work Lloyd!❤️
    Love from a family in Denmark❤️

  • @cherieclark-spitzer8449
    @cherieclark-spitzer8449 Рік тому +24

    Llyod, I'm so incredibly proud of you. ❤ actions speak louder than words, and your actions and responses have been just as gracious as Tibor is! He will be sorely missed, and I'm so sorry for what you all have been going through. Those others are the ones that are narcissistic, that's obvious! Keep taking care of yourself, Llyod. Keep doing you. Things come to a close so that other things can open up. You will have my continued support and I find it a pleasure working with you and supporting your work. Everything you have accomplished and the hundreds of individuals you have helped wake up to this awful cult can never be fully destroyed.

  • @a_l_l_i_s_o_n__
    @a_l_l_i_s_o_n__ Рік тому +13

    To be honest, when the exjw community came out to tell about a “scandal” I was a little cautious but honestly your personal life is not my business and I continue to support you. When I commented on Twitter, people would DM me to watch videos that shows the “truth” about you. And it was so absurd how much hatred was stirred up. What people do with money they EARN is their business. Your personal life is PERSONAL. Lloyd, you opened my eyes and showed me the truth about the truth and saved my life. I’m sorry you’re going through this but I’m still a supporter and will continue to be. You have great content. I’m sorry for this bump in the road. May the force be with you.

  • @marshamacmillan
    @marshamacmillan Рік тому +24

    I stayed when all of that happened last year, Lloyd. I understand making mistakes and unfair judgement. I understand being human. Keep on with the good fight!

    • @gav48
      @gav48 Рік тому +4

      What happened? What did I miss? Why is everyone judging him?

    • @marshamacmillan
      @marshamacmillan Рік тому +5

      @@gav48 Last year, Lloyd confided in who he thought was a friend he could trust that he had relations outside his marriage and was feeling regret. The friend promptly put him on blast and all these people ran with it.

  • @RB-lr7dm
    @RB-lr7dm Рік тому +19

    I'm so sorry Lloyd, we all know how gracious Tibor is! And you are. I had no knowledge of JWs until I started watching you and I will keep with you for the next era. And I will keep watching your convention rebuttals for years to come. Good luck Lloyd. I think you're well out of it.

  • @elizabethyoung4900
    @elizabethyoung4900 Рік тому +9

    Lloyd, your channel was the first i came across when i was questioning what i was learning/being told during my "bible" study. I admit I was disappointed when the proverbial hit but as far as I'm concerned your private life is nothing to do with me or anyone else. It doesn't affect the value of the information you provide. I have continued to watch and always found the content interesting, helpful and very informative. It has been instrumental in my decision to stop my study.....i just have to figure out how to tell my fleshy sister who's been a JW for almost 40 years. Your podcasts, rebuttals and discussions have been invaluable. Tibor was always gracious and will be missed. Thank you for everything. I wish you well and look forward to watching you in the future. 😊

  • @Kalleron
    @Kalleron Рік тому +13

    Good fortune to Tibor where he goes in his future. He's a great video editor, and we all appreciate his hard work.
    Best wishes to you as well, Lloyd.🙂😢

  • @jameswalberg3265
    @jameswalberg3265 Рік тому +12

    Lloyd, you are an inspiration. I am so sorry you are experiencing this horrific abuse from these internet trolls. I am very glad that you are fighting it and will make these haters accountable. I mostly watch post-Mormon and post-Scientology UA-cam channels and what you are experiencing is very common. The only difference is that you are doing it alone which makes it much much tougher. Wishing you all the best.

  • @susangflowers7180
    @susangflowers7180 Рік тому +101

    I have never been on the Anti-Lloyd train and never will be. ‘Let he that has no sin, cast the first stone.’ You helped me greatly after I left the cult. As you noted, those causing the trouble are still acting as if they were still in the cult. The purpose is to expose the cult and not ex-members and perhaps those who choose defamation should re-evaluate their motives. We will sincerely miss Tibor, best of luck to you. And Lloyd, we love you!

    • @bxtr14
      @bxtr14 Рік тому +10

      Exactly! Well said

    • @DietlindeJanssen
      @DietlindeJanssen Рік тому +11

      Well said ! I owe Lloyd my freedom! Sad some exjw can be so cruel ..we all are in the same boat..should helped and support each other. We love Lloyd here! ❤

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Рік тому +7

      True, his videos helped me so much in the beginning of my waking up process. The logical explanations was what and how I needed to hear the TATT. It’s so sad to me that it’s not watchtower, but the exjw community that causes him these problems. Watchtower is probably laughing , because they just stand there watching, while we doing their bidding.

    • @incognito_JW
      @incognito_JW Рік тому +2

      I think there are 3 camps of people on this issue with Lloyd. Camp 1 folks are like you - you're not judging Lloyd on the actual mistakes, everyone makes mistakes. Camp 2 are the people who are materially bothered by the underlying cause of Lloyds actions. Camp 3 - which I believe is the largest camp - are the people who are less concerned with what Lloyd materially did to cause this, and more concerned with how Lloyd handled himself after-the-fact....and continues to act. Whereas I think its objectively true Lloyd hurt his wife...that is his private business. However, it was made public, and I personally am in Camp 3 where I think Lloyd really reacted badly thereafter.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Рік тому +2

      ​@@incognito_JWnobody cares! Bye🙋

  • @PonceAgatas
    @PonceAgatas Рік тому +18

    When I was young my mother said to me. Let people talk about you. Pay them no attention. Whether it's true or false. It doesn't matter. The reason they talk about you is because their life is sad and miserable. Nothing makes them happier than to take you down in their misery. Thanks to you, the JW no longer knock at my door. Continue the good work until it's physically impossible to do so.

    • @dianacryder7523
      @dianacryder7523 Рік тому +1

      Hi Frank. Quick question. I'm always looking for exJWs I once serve timed with that left the Borg. Did you ever live in Oregon and were you once married to Libby Diaz?

    • @PonceAgatas
      @PonceAgatas Рік тому +2

      @dianacryder7523 HI. No, I don't know libby. I never lived in oregon.

    • @dianacryder7523
      @dianacryder7523 Рік тому +1

      @@PonceAgatas Okay. Thanks!

  • @billsdoris
    @billsdoris Рік тому +31

    So sorry you have been all through this Lloyd. You have helped thousands to get out of the JW organisation. Anyone successful gets abuse, unfortunately it's a fact of life. But I very much appreciate all your hard work

  • @traci105
    @traci105 Рік тому +8

    Your channel has saved ME and my mental health. I have to occasionally unsubscribe and cancel my patreon whenever I go back home to visit because I don't want my family knowing I watch ex jw content, but, when I feel it's safe again, I do re-subscribe and re-join your patreon. I watch your videos to always stay one step ahead of whatever wicked rhetoric the jw's are feeding my family. The channel educates me and gives me confidence with always having to remind my family on why I will never ever go back, whenever they endlessly preach to me and not respect my boundaries. It's never ending and Lloyd, I appreciate you so much. Take care, buddy...

  • @est_elle_w4571
    @est_elle_w4571 Рік тому +23

    I'm sorry to hear about this abuse and how it has affected you. I was unaware that this happened and it's no wonder you need a break. I found your channel quite by accident last year precisely when I needed it most. My JW mother who hadn't spoken to me for 14 years told me she loved me on her deathbed. Of course there is a myriad of pain and confusion that comes with having to deal with anything JW even after many years. Thank you for helping me when I needed it most. I am happy to continue to support you in the small way I do even if your content changes.

  • @23Peder23
    @23Peder23 Рік тому +13

    Dear Lloyd, your words saved lives in so many ways... Don't let stupid, angry and embittered morons win this fight, no matter how long it takes.
    I, and so many other people out there, thank you for all your work, your words and for the struggles you fought and might have to fight in the future. Keep your head up high - you can be so proud on what you've reached and achieved!

  • @friendywendy3474
    @friendywendy3474 Рік тому +25

    Oh dear Lloyd, so sorry to hear this but you have helped my whole family leave the cult! I will always have your back!!! ❤

  • @janburn007
    @janburn007 Рік тому +31

    Sorry to hear what has happened - & my very best wishes go out to Tibor, who has always been so very "gracious" in all of your videos, ever since you engaged his services. I hope that he will be able to find alternate employment very soon - & I'm so sorry that he has had to endure harassment from some very silly people who have obviously watched this channel.

  • @brokeschlo8274
    @brokeschlo8274 Рік тому +61

    We’ll miss you Tibor!!! The banter shared between you and mr. evans has been fun to watch and I agree, your impact is lasting in a positive way.

  • @philiamaya
    @philiamaya Рік тому +47

    Hi Lloyd, I'm so sorry for you, you really dont deserve this mental abuse and privacy breach. I think you take a good decision in ending this for your own health. You've done so much already and helped so many people. Please take car of yourself, you have my biggest respect on human level. 👏 THANK YOU

  • @michaelabsher5746
    @michaelabsher5746 Рік тому +27

    You’re the GOAT, Lloyd. It’s a shame that less skilled competitors are reduced to personal attacks, but that’s also a testament to their inferiority

  • @ivanramos5236
    @ivanramos5236 Рік тому +16

    i have always been one of your biggest fans and i’m sorry you have to go through all this. what you do with your channel has changed peoples lives in the most positive way on how to move on from this cult and debunking the beliefs we’ve been soo brainwashed into believing was true all our lives, that’s it! you’re not claiming to be a religious or political leader and using yourself as an example of how to live a moral life, people have no right to dive into your personal life and expose faults you may have have because this isn’t what the channels about or does it ever discredit anything you’ve ever shared about the cult or debunking what they teach , which is the sole reason for your channel. these people defaming you should look at themselves in the mirror (which i’m positive they wouldn’t like what they see) and ask themselves what the hell makes them a better person! continue doing what you do best with the same class, humor, and analytical way only you can bring lloyd!

  • @barrymorrison8013
    @barrymorrison8013 Рік тому +14

    Have always liked and supported your content. That's not about to change. Thank you for all of your effort. Take care of yourself and good luck for whatever is in the future. Stay safe and be well.

  • @inaconder6289
    @inaconder6289 Рік тому +4

    Lloyd, I look forward to all your future videos. Thank you for all the work you've done and will continue to do. You have always helped me and you are so appreciated. Thank You!!!!

  • @danielturner4724
    @danielturner4724 Рік тому +9

    Your channel was the only main channel I watched whilst leaving and dealing with the trauma of the cult, and I still occasional watch your content for how fair, logical and great it is, a massive help in my therapy, I am gutted thus has happened to you and wish you the greatest success in what ever you do next.

  • @alyssawoodman
    @alyssawoodman Рік тому +9

    Thank you for everything you have done Lloyd and you too Tibor. You both were a monumental support to me while I was in the process of waking up. I will never forget what your videos did for me and how they helped me work through what was happening in my mind at that time ❤ It was very touch and go for awhile and at my darkest points you guys were always there making me smile and soothing me with your mutual understanding of this dangerous cult. I will be forever grateful ❤

  • @Ballykeith
    @Ballykeith Рік тому +7

    All the best Tibor and thank you for your skilful contribution to Lloyd's channel. A man of your talents will always be sought after, so I hope you'll soon find another satisfying job.

  • @RobinKLarsen
    @RobinKLarsen 7 місяців тому +2

    The attack on your reputation, is reminiscent of Scientology. I want to thank you for exposing the Cult that once held me captive for over 32 years.

  • @hikingviking859
    @hikingviking859 Рік тому +13

    Lloyd, i have been watching you since 2015. What a journey! Sending you love and respect for your hard work helping recovering exJWs.

    • @wavygoods877
      @wavygoods877 Рік тому +2

      Same! Really got me through when I got disfellowshipped. I followed his because it was unbiased and filled with info on how to continue life outside the jw life.

  • @JDubzEx
    @JDubzEx 10 місяців тому +2

    I just recently found your channel, but I love it. I hope you will continue. Until then, you already have enough content to keep me busy for quite a while.

  • @DietlindeJanssen
    @DietlindeJanssen Рік тому +21

    We will miss Tibor! Wish him the best! I think all this difamation stuff...is all about something so simpel as...ENVY. Please be firm and strong Lloyd! So many people woke with you ..never forget that. We,re still enjoing your posts and videos. Hold in there! And please...never..never delete your channel! We need you. Much Love to you ..good man! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @emiliemoe5869
    @emiliemoe5869 Рік тому +9

    Dear Lloyd Evans.. This is so sad! Don’t let haters get the better of you. You have saved me and so many others! ❤ And for that we are grateful!!! I hope you feel loved by all of us who stayed loyal to you! Feel better soon and take care of yourself! I can’t imagine what you’re going through… Love from Emilie in Denmark 🇩🇰

  • @kevinhutchins591
    @kevinhutchins591 Рік тому +33

    Thank you Lloyd for all you’ve done to help the current and ex-JW community. Your videos and work have woken up thousands of JWs and help them to gain freedom from this harmful cult. I know of several personally including of course myself.

  • @simoneg.5134
    @simoneg.5134 Рік тому +9

    This leaves me speechless... Your work is really appreciated and I will miss the videos

  • @mouaamouaa9480
    @mouaamouaa9480 Рік тому +13

    Im not an ex jw but i almost for baptised during a grief process. Your work and your videos saved me from this cult. Thank you! And youre better than all of this toxic people!

  • @bxtr14
    @bxtr14 Рік тому +8

    lol 😂
    Loved this!
    There are so many ex JW’s that rant and rage and unfortunately you cop it! In Oz we call it the tall poppy syndrome.
    Some of the ones featured I used to watch way back, I won’t name them, but the guy standing with a blue folder outside a police station 🙄 I just shook my head when that popped up, I used to have so much respect for that guy but unfortunately they are used to being elders and being taken notice of and they just sound ridiculous outside of a KH!
    ALL EX JW’s IMO need to get help & I’m serious here, if you don’t, the residual damage follows you around and you rage at others instead of working through your own anger. If you attack another activist instead of the cult itself you’re doing watchtowers work! Keep going Lloyd. I’ll always be grateful for the information YOU supplied, not them, when I was getting out. 💪🏻

  • @michaelmitchell2050
    @michaelmitchell2050 Рік тому +26

    Lloyd... I'm very sorry for what you are going through. I personally love your channel and the help you have given to myself and my friends that are ExJW's.
    You are a good man who have helped alot of people. Take care of yourself buddy...do what you need to. We will be here for you!

  • @hyp77
    @hyp77 Рік тому +95

    It would be good if everyone, exjw and others, could let private life be private. I know who you mean. You have been and are vital to this community.

    • @KitKatSukiKat
      @KitKatSukiKat Рік тому +6

      💯 Yesssss!!!!!

    • @b4ph0m3tdk9
      @b4ph0m3tdk9 Рік тому +4

      True that!

    • @-Zer0Dark-
      @-Zer0Dark- Рік тому +2

      Particularly when their own scandals have come to light in the past year or so.

  • @UnknownMOI
    @UnknownMOI Рік тому +11

    Sorry to see Tibor leaving and the abuse that he has endured.
    I hope your progress continues and turns around for the best.

  • @EmilySolem-Davis
    @EmilySolem-Davis Рік тому +21

    Appreciate your hard work Lloyd, no matter how much or little it is.

  • @Ljy2wp
    @Ljy2wp Рік тому +14

    So sorry you've had to deal with all this Lloyd. It's just shameful. I personally owe you everything and I'm genuinely gutted that your channel won't continue the way it has been, it will be a huge loss for your supporters and please know that in amongst all these horrible people, they're are lots who would have your back and owe you everything. Please take comfort in that. Thank you for everything you have done.

  • @wendyh2708
    @wendyh2708 Рік тому +19

    No! Say it ain't so Lloyd. Your show will never be the same without "if Tibor is gracious ". I'm so sorry it's come to this. Please give him our best. He will be greatly missed. Stay strong Lloyd!

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods Рік тому +8

    I'm sorry to learn that the defamation has still been going on. I generally don't go looking. I happened across the interview where you were ambushed by Andrew Gold sometime after it happened and was appalled by his behavior in doing that. I was curious if he ever apologized, since he seems to be popular among people I otherwise respect, but again, I didn't go looking.
    I hate that you have had to deal with all this. I know how awful it is to be the target of a smear campaign by people you formerly trusted, but I can't imagine how much worse it must be as a public figure on the internet.
    It's good you can hold on to knowing that you are a good person. You need that to weather such attacks emotionally. Rooting for you.

  • @sherylsissom6920
    @sherylsissom6920 Рік тому +20

    Lloyd above all things work hard to take good care of yourself mentally, emotionally, etc. This shit can take a toll on you so work hard to not let it and keep it out of your mind. I look forward to when this is behind you. Kind regards, Oregon USA. ☺️

  • @slmattus
    @slmattus Рік тому +24

    Wow. My heart goes out to you, Lloyd. Thank you for letting us see a fraction of what you’ve dealt with. I appreciate your work and know you’re just another man doing their best, as we all are. The folks saying those things (as shown at the end) are all still JW’s in their hearts… their behavior hasn’t changed a bit. May your heart be cared for gently and mercifully, and may justice find its way to you. Sending Tibor all the best wishes in whatever is next for them, too. 💜

  • @hkalchemy2
    @hkalchemy2 Рік тому +13

    I’ve watched the rebuttals for a long time and they are really excellent. So sorry to hear that they are no more.

  • @helenablack746
    @helenablack746 Рік тому +23

    I'm sorry that I ended my patronage, it was a financially difficult time for me. I wish you success Lloyd. I've stepped away from the whole ex-jw scene but I appreciate you and your work. You've literally saved lives.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  Рік тому +17

      Absolutely no need to apologise Helena, I appreciate all the support you were able to give. Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @ebonywhite992
    @ebonywhite992 Рік тому +16

    If anyone deserves it you do. People are so judgmental and toxic. Can’t focus on the fact you do a good deed to those who need it. I will be here for as long as you post.

  • @paulgmetuk
    @paulgmetuk Рік тому +16

    You have a heart of gold Lloyd. Your empathy and understanding has helped so many caught in this horrible cult. You have my gratitude and admiration for your professionalism, kindness, understanding and inner strength. Maintain that courage my friend. You have so many people who love and care for you. X Paul

  • @teresaw1207
    @teresaw1207 Рік тому +25

    Your early doctrinal videos especially helped me leave the JWs without remorse. Thanks for all your hard work.

    • @morningglory9288
      @morningglory9288 Рік тому

      Yes when Lloyd went by the name John Cedars. It was those earlier videos he put out that awoken me from how corrupt the JW cult truly is. As a JW, I was never aware of the 1914, 1925, 1975 end of the world predictions, the Mexican/Malawian scandal, Joseph Rutherford and Beth Sarim, the CSA cases and unreported pedophiles within the congregations, WT's affiliation with the UN and much much more.
      Unfortunately I no longer see that earlier content Lloyd put out, it would be so helpful for those who are coming out of WT.

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Рік тому +4

      Same here, at the very beginning, I could only listen to his channel!!

  • @angelabernhardt6761
    @angelabernhardt6761 Рік тому +7

    I’m so sorry Lloyd. I’m sorry you’ve been put through this after so many years of truly helping people. It’s not right or fair but, as you know, life is hardly ever either of those things. I hope that this break and gradual shift in your content will open new doors you never knew existed. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but the ex-Scientology movement has created a “network” called SPTV and I know they’d welcome any content or perspective you have. I will still be subbed and watching no matter what. Thanks for everything and take care of you. ❤

  • @prenticedarlington2720
    @prenticedarlington2720 Рік тому +10

    Take it easy!
    Looking forward to watching your future content, whenever and however it comes.

  • @michaelkeller5555
    @michaelkeller5555 Рік тому +17

    Your dedication and your work is invaluable and has undoubtedly changed and improved many, many lives. Thank you for fighting this instead of choosing to fold under it. Choosing to continue subjecting yourself to it instead of vanishing from the internet to escape it, all so that you can continue to help people find their way out, is truly selfless. Edit: I also love how you basically said 'alright, no one else is left to be collateral damage, fuck it the gloves are coming off'. Iconic 😂

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  Рік тому +8

      Thanks! Yeh, that's pretty much my attitude right now. When you take everything from someone they have nothing left to fear losing.

    • @marcusb.3038
      @marcusb.3038 10 місяців тому

      @michaelkeller5555 the only organization that comes close to fulfilling Matthew 28:19,20. The only organization that has translated the Bible in over 115 languages. Translated Bible study aids in over 1000+ languages and dialects. Only organization that has transcended nationalistic borders! My father went to St Petersburg for an international convention. He documented it in film. There were translators of dozens of languages there translating each talk into corresponding sections. There were Israeli brothers and sisters there with Arabs. The United Nations has tried to quell the hatred between them for years. The spiritual paradise has! Now, Vladimir Putin has put jws in jail. Has made war with Ukraine. Killed their women and children! The King of the North! I’m curious. Now that you are “liberated”, who do you vote for? Is it Biden or Trump? 🤔🤔🧐🧐🫤🫤🫤 Peter’s attitude was “Lord, who are we to go to, you have sayings of everlasting life.” (John 6:68). ‘The Love of the Greater Number has cooled off.’ (Matthew 24:12) this refers to outside and inside the organization. Grievous and vengeance is truly the order of the day at anti jw threads like this!

  • @pinkgorilla99
    @pinkgorilla99 Рік тому +7

    Everyone has said thank you so eloquently, and I want to agree.
    You put a tremendous amount of work into these videos and they help a lot of people.
    Best wishes to Tibor.
    Keep on Keeping on!
    P.S love the hair ❤👍

  • @rossini138
    @rossini138 Рік тому +13

    So sorry to hear this, but you need to think about yourself first. Thanks for all your videos

  • @na7845
    @na7845 Рік тому +6

    This is very sad. Hoping to see you refreshed and back at it at whatever level or pace you can do. I love your videos, style, clarity, voice. I don't want to resort to watching these others online so I've seen all I will see of EXJW videos if yours discontinue.
    Thank you for everything

  • @mlove.1376
    @mlove.1376 Рік тому +6

    Lloyd thank you for your work and your devotion to helping others. You have been a great help to me in my life and my recovery. I'm sorry for what is happening and I was there when this hate went down. I've noticed that there is much hate and anger going on and I too just want healing vs. hate. Considering your mental health is so important and I'm glad that you are taking care of yourself first. So whatever you can do with what you have, I will stay with you. I have always found you kind and whatever your journey is in your personal recovery is none of anyone's business. What my business is my recovery. I feel bad for you, as you have helped me so much. As you understand your purpose, I wish you the very best in everything you choose to do. You are love and you are loved.

  • @thefitnessfanatic3156
    @thefitnessfanatic3156 Рік тому +21

    Hey Lloyd my name is Justin and I am a former Jehovah's witness I just want you to know that your videos have helped me tremendously, and the work that you do doesn't go unnoticed. There are always going to be those who because they don't want to know the truth. I am not a content creator myself for you too but I know that being a content creators not easy you will always have people who love your content and people who hate their content it takes very thick skin to do what you do so keep pushing no matter what the haters say😅

  • @bortiz11
    @bortiz11 Рік тому +9

    I didn't even know about all this (the lies and drama).
    Keep going with your work and legal proceedings, Lloyd. We got your back!

  • @deebee153
    @deebee153 Рік тому +14

    TIBOR WILL BE MISSED! You are a good person Lloyd. I admire how you have carried on with your activism and how you keep evolving and reinventing yourself. You were the first xjw activist that I came across on youtube. Even though I have been out of the org. for many years, your videos helped me to realize that not only had I escaped JW indoctrination but also a very dangerous cult. I wish you the best and look forward to your future videos after you take a well deserved break.

  • @vinegar10able
    @vinegar10able Рік тому +11

    Very sad. Obviously we wish Tibor all the best in his future. And you too, Lloyd

  • @FullMetalFeline
    @FullMetalFeline Рік тому +11

    Hello Lloyd, I'm sorry things have come to this, I wish you all the best for the future! You have helped many people, and many more to come will benefit from the work you've created. A change can be as good as a rest and I hope you find more happiness in whatever you choose to do in the future. Branching out into other cults and religions I think sounds a great strategy to distance yourself from toxic Ex-JWs, as well as broadening your viewership. I for one, have only had a passing affiliation with JWs and would be interested in learning more about other cults and religions and the impact they have on people. Having a lot of exposure to the toxic side of Islam growing up, I feel that has a lot in common with much of what you've described with JWs, only it's more acceptable seemingly because that religion is so extensive. I would love more people like yourself to expose how awful and culty even mainstream religions can be.

  • @afennox
    @afennox Рік тому +4

    I'm sorry to hear this. You have made some very valuable content and have really opened my eyes to some of the atrocities that pass right in front of us.
    I wish your private life was able to stay private through all this - I was unable to watch this video (but read the update) and wish you a refreshing break from some of the pressure. 🌟

  • @sagiebob
    @sagiebob Рік тому +9

    Lloyd no body no scandal no topic can take away the fact that you saved my life and have touched many hearts alike. Enjoy your life you have done so much for many people .

  • @lightinshadows8164
    @lightinshadows8164 Рік тому +12

    I admire how you are handling this situation Lloyd. It has always been clear to me that you're a person of integrity. You are a good man with human flaws. You're doing the right thing to handle this legally for your reputation.

  • @francinemirey1555
    @francinemirey1555 Рік тому +12

    Hello Lloyd, your decisions are yours personally and I hope all the best for you and your family always. I can very honestly say thank-you for your activism, since I gave myself permission to look at Leah Remini's series on religions, around 2015ish?, I looked up your channel on UA-cam and from then on I was rapidly waking up , for this I'll always be grateful and for the help of another person too... Take care 🤗

  • @mb-the-enby
    @mb-the-enby Рік тому +7

    I’m sorry you had to make this video, and that the situation with the channel and your production company has come to this. I wish Tibor all the best. I hope you get a good rest, Lloyd, and take as long as you need. I’m grateful for all you do.

  • @Pf1sh37
    @Pf1sh37 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for all that you’ve done over the years Lloyd! I started fading 5 years ago and I pretty much listened to every video you’d ever made while still working alongside JW’s. I’ve since reluctantly distanced myself from most JW’s, including both family and exJW’s. We all had a medaling, nosey, judgemental watchtower slave imbedded into our muscle memory from years of relentless indoctrination. We’ll all likely spend a significant portion of our lives with parts of that toxic personality in tow. Unfortunately, most probably won’t ever see just how deep those roots go into their psyche as it continues to distort their view of other people and themselves. Thanks again for continuing to make people aware that all is not well with exJW’s. We’re out of the fire but that doesn’t mean we aren’t badly burned and in need of healing.
    To anyone reading this, please keep yourself safe and rather than view “worldly people” as a monolith of fear, please realise that those exposed to JW indoctrination are far more likely to stab you in the back or have major erratic shifts in behaviour due to pangs of guilt and shame. That mentality is a the grease that lubes the wheels of Jehovah’s chariot, so to speak. If you have suffered indoctrination, please seek professional mental health. Your life will be better for it and your relationships will improve when you know how your mind works, not the damaged facade of a mind that was imposed upon you by short sighted, indoctrinated charlatans. The more aware you are of the damage done to you, the more chances there are of you actually being able to help others going through the same thing. Together we are strong.
    Peace and love ❤️

  • @tinabanner
    @tinabanner 8 місяців тому +1

    This is awful, I had no idea you were facing such a tough time. Your activism has been so important in my own recovery and I hope you will keep going and not let these unkind people, who clearly have no content of any use to post, bring you down. Keep going. Keep posting.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much Tina!