Honda Accord Euro/Acura TSX - Which One is Right For You?
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Today I discuss all the different variants of Accord Euro and TSX that are sold around the world and which one is best depending on whether you're looking for a car to modify, a fun cheap car, a daily driver or a family car.
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CL9 Modifications:
- Serge Bo ECU Reflash
- Simota Short Ram Intake
- PLM Headers
- Yonaka 2.5" Catback Exhaust
- DC5 Type R Gearset
- Tein S-Tech Lowering Springs
- Sparco DS1 18x7.5 +48 Wheels
- 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE003's
- Flow Designs Australia Lip Kit
- Type S Grille
- Euro R Shift Knob
- Factory Sports Kit and Spoiler
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:49 First Generation
2:54 Second Generation
3:36 Performance Car
4:46 Inexpensive/Fun Car
5:21 Daily Driver
5:56 Family Car
6:35 Conclusion
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Im so happy to have found your channel!
Haha that's good
Totally agree on the Accord/TSX being one of the better Honda products. You can definitely tell by how much value they hold in the used car market. I have a CU2 TSX Special Edition 6 speed and it's been a joy to own. Can't wait for the Euro-R's to be legal in the US so I can import one of them and add to my stable!
Nice man!
Your videos seriously are on point!!
Cheers!
Awesome video! Your videos are the answer to what everyone wants to know in depth but no one wants to post about it! Perfect👌🏼
Glad you found it helpful
Im in the process of importing a Euro R from Japan!
Your videos are amazing. Really informative and genuinely hypes me for when the car arrives.
Nice man, you're gonna love it!
Oh wow, perfect! Im looking at buying an accord. So haopy find this. Thanks for the content!
No problem, glad you enjoyed it
Love the video! From america and have a cw2 acura tsx sportwagon. You're so right about the cargo capacity and rear seats. Other than that though, the car is amazing. Can't wait to get more performance out of it in the future
Nice man and yeah for a big car it's not the most practical... looks the part though
another fantastic video, keep it up g!
Thanks man!
I've had my CU4 for almost 2 years, and I still love it so much. I just love how intense the VTEC kicks in on the j35
Nice
Awesome Vid. I have been using CL9 as daily for last 5 years and hasn't let me down except for two times - alternator and pedal position sensor. Waiting for your next vid mate.
Cheers and sounds like it's been a relatively reliable car for ya
Alternator goes out on every car eventually. Tsx are the truth when it comes to reliability if you stay on top of basic maintenance.
Just what I was looking for!!!
Glad it was helpful!
K24a3 here mate cheers! Reflash and headers will be the next mods I'll do
Nice! Good choices
The video we all needed
Good to hear!
Other great video 👍👍, I've had 2 cm2 type s wagon now and I love them, wish I had bought one years ago haha
Nice man!
Thanks. Getting My 2003 honda accord cl9 tomorrow 😊😊
Nice!
Nice video! I have a 2012 TSX Sport Wagon here in Philly with the K24z3 and just under 70k on the clock. Having owned Hondas going back to my 1983 Prelude, I think this wagon has the best build quality of any of my Hondas. The paddle shifters work seamlessly with the 5 speed slush box, and even bone stock, this wagon is an awesome highway cruiser. It even feels exotic because I seldom see another one.....we call that a unicorn.
Yeah man they're great cars
@@KiwiCarLife Yep...plus the TSX Tech models sold here include the ELS sound system which is definitely one of the best OEM units.
@@brichpmr Yeah so I've heard! Too bad we never got it here
I'm a big fan of the wagons, great looking cars and I almost never see them on the road here in Houston. I'm currently driving a 09 TSX Sedan Tech Package with the 6 speed manual. I've had people on Facebook groups tell me it's extremely rare, but I could never manage to find the actual production numbers. Only 2009 and 2010 had both Tech and manual available, because 11-14 was only base or SE. Currently at 250K miles but still runs like new, OEM parts only when I work on it.
Nice cars
I have a cw1 2.0 manual 6 speed with light flywheel en ecu tune up its a lot faster now.
Really like your video
Cheers and that's an oddball! Can't be too many of them around
Awesome video, I have a cu2, great car
Cheers
Love my 08 cu2 k24z engine , car really handles well , engine it’s really good only “issue” is oil consumption. Great great car . Love the handling .
Yeah a lot of K24’s when they get older burn oil unfortunately. My CL9 did too, not much but enough where I had to top it up between services
Awesome car video. Really a huge fan of your channel since you started the build! I would just like to mention that both the old and new diesel are identical and both are super tuneable! A remap in a turbodiesel can get you lots of ponies! The old 2.2 diesel (i-ctdi) is more tuneable because it has no dpf. I have one in my civic with a stage 1 pushing 200bhp and 400 torque, paired to a 6 speed, 0-60 is in the low 7s (with lots of spinning) so calling it sad is a bit of an exaggeration imo, great video otherwise 8)
Yeah tbh I don't know much about those diesel engines as we don't get them here. Only drove one very briefly that came in for service and was pretty underwhelmed. But sounds like in the eu people make some good power out of them!
0-60 isn't really where it's at for diesels. It's more 30-100 onwards.
@@baker6928 indeed, those rolls are real nice
There is also a k20z2 for facelift version in Europe which is basically a K20A6 but it featured a new long runner intake manifold, modified camshafts and the Drive by wire technology.
Hmm I see, must've missed that one. It's hard to cover absolutely everything when there's so little info out
I own this car!! 😂
About to purchase a Cu2 and cannot WAIT!
I'm sitting in one as I write this reply lol... Would absolutely recommend!
@@KiwiCarLife ive watched a lot of your vids lately to help me decide, hope you do more cu2 vids!
@@vd_a6169 got an overview of the CU2 coming in the next few weeks
Love the video. But I am interested in hearing more about the cl8, there just isn't much information out there about what it's like to drive and modify.
With a vtec-e k20, I wouldn't bother looking into it. Get a CM3 instead if you want awd and modification potential
Love your videos man, keeping producing! 👍🏼 great work, you need your own programme buddy..
Also, what’s the deal with the reliability issues with the steering racks in the first gens? Is there anything to be concerned about?
Thanks man! Never heard about that steering rack issue. I wouldn’t be concerned
@@KiwiCarLife cheers bud! After watching your videos, I think the jdm cm2 type s auto wagon 1st gen is the one I’ll look to import, jdm to uk. Family dictates the need for space, 1st gen is perfect there. I have the diesel atm and I’ve even grown to love it, esp how versatile it is (just massive!)
Hopefully the autos are good on the type s variants, do they have the paddle shifters like the cw2 wagon gen 2 you tested? Any good? (I’d have that one, but rear seats too small for family).
I’d have my old champ white JDM ITR 96 spec back in a heartbeat though (not the one in my profile pic btw), just love fast front drive 90’s B/H series Hondas 😎 keep up the good work!
@@dh2018 nice man, no paddles on the cm2
Wow thank you I’ve been trying to find out more than I can on the car since I love rare stuff, never knew there was a diesel one??? But I have a tsx from the states and I’m pretty sure we only got one engine so not many choices
All good man, and yeah you only got the k24 in the first gen, and the k24 and j35 in the 2nd gen
I have a cu2 , very impressed . I should of got a Honda sooner in my car ownership life
Mmm yes lovely cars
CL for life - sexiest accord out there, especially my type s 😂
Indeed
Now I know exactly which engine I got for my type S
Nice
CL9 FOR THE WIN!
Yeees
You havent talked about the k20z2, my accord euro comes with one and i really enjoy it.
Yeah that’s basically the same as the A6
@@KiwiCarLife What modifications can be done to it?
Just got a 2008 Honda Accord Euro luxury Navi with 177k KMs for 11.5k. I know you might thinking I'm dumb buying that for that price but I genuinely put hours comparing all the other cars that I can get at that price range and out of all the cars the euro luxury Navi had the most features, comfort and looks. Even with that much KM on the odometer it still runs like a dream. Other cars I considered included Honda Civic, Mazda 3, Toyota Aurion, Volvo S60, Holden Commodore and Lexus is250.
Very nice!
I have a cu2, wanted a manual but found a deal I couldn’t pass up for a 2013 tech with a rebuilt title and it’s been a great daily and it’s not my “fun” car so I’m cool with the 5 speed/paddles
Nice one man! They’re great cars
CL for life.
Good chassis
Nice t-shirt. Glad to see AT represented rather than Red Bull ;)
Haha yuuurs
Hey mate love your videos! Was just wondering what you think of your plm headers now that it’s been a while, I’m kind of on the fence right now about getting them for my Euro R to gain a bit more power but not too keen on the raspy sound side of it. Has the rasp faded a bit now that you’ve had it on for a while now? And also what’s it like getting a warrant with the noise and no cat? Cheers
Passed wof no prob, they're still pretty raspy but I don't mind it on a k24, makes good power though. On k20 it might sound a bit tinny though
If you keep the rest of the exhaust stock, the headers make little to no different in the sound of the exhaust. However. I found when I put the headers on I felt a noticeable power bump. And then I also just put in the tunable ECU with the reflash tune on it. And it absolutely opened the car up A LOT. I was able to blow the doors off my friends RSX type S. Yesterday I was a car length away from a golf R. I also have a cold air intake but those are the only power mods I've done and it's made the car so much better
@@vhssociety I’ve got hks silent hi power cat back on mine, it’s got a nice tone and not raspy whatsoever so hopefully if I put the headers on it won’t add rasp and a tinny noise 🤙
@@lucasmitchell9793 that exhaust is pretty high quality so it should sound pretty decent
Is the Acura TL Type - S a related car? How different is that to the Acura TSX? I’d love to see the CL7/9 compared to their USDM equivalent.
Tsx and accord euro are very similar, tl type s is quite different - more based on the us accord chassis
Bro i have a cl7 k20a6 5at. What can i do basically for performance upgrade
Not much in the way of performance unfortunately... Get an intake or do the intake resonator delete to make it sound better on throttle, maybe some lowering springs and wheels to make it handle better?
Are they all fwd? I’m keen to get a Honda euro r, likely modify it but I don’t want a fwd is there any good options for awd or rwd euro r?
Nah man all fwd. Drive one first before u write off fwd
Just slightly bent the headrests back on my cu2. Really push your head forward when sitting, sucks for long hours.
Haha good idea! Or some people just turn them round. I personally have no issues but it all depends on your height and build
Why can I barely find anything on the awd cl8? Any good?
Ehh, only 2.0L. I’d get a CM3 if you can. Awd k24 wagon
How do the cl9/cu2 stack up against the lexus is250/350 seeing as they're both in the same price bracket?
Sweet Takuma Sato poster btw!
Lexus is more comfy and probably faster stock (maybe not the 250) but the accord has much more modification potential
@@KiwiCarLife thanks, i'm on the lookout for a reliable, fun to drive sedan. Never considered the Euro until I saw the videos on your channel! Do a euro Vs is250/350 video
@@rajatjuvekar9477 if I can find someone with one I will!
I think the is350 is definitely not in the same price bracket?
you should upgrade ur entertainment system there are some clean ones you can get from like aliexpress
Nah they look tacky imo - I'm happy with the stock unit. It integrates much nicer into the car
Hey bro, do a video on the stereo replacement?
Replacing stereo with what?
Hey man quick question - do you happen to remember, how much oil did your 2.4 Accord euro was going through between changes?
I find mine consuming quite a bit... but she also is 21 years old and has 250k kilometers on the clock... so I was just curious.
Not too much, maybe a litre every 5,000km
@@KiwiCarLife Hmm that is not bad mine seems to do double that 😆
Still feels weird since I come from 8 years of driving diesel Benz`s and they never touch oil, i might need to stack up 🛢
The cw is right for me, but have a cu2 here in the US
Nice
N22A1 for life.
Good engine (probably)
Just wondering, why would the auto K24(a3) have a sad engine? Is there a difference between the auto and manual K24a3?
Wasn't referring to the a3, was talking about the base 2.0L (K20, R20) and the base k24a4. The k24a3 is a great engine whether paired with an auto or a manual. Pretty much as good as the k24a2
@@KiwiCarLife Awesome, was a bit worried I'd picked up the wrong car! great video man.
@@harrisonds3950 Haha nah A3 is what I have. It's the good K24
What site is that you use for comparisons? Thanks for the videos!
What site? I make it myself in editing software
@@KiwiCarLife that site where you compare codes of the engines etc. But I understand if you make it
@@sapphirecutB2 Yeah made it myself
Good job from K24z3 driver!
Cheers
Hello from another K24z3 driver :D
Can a 09 Honda Accord transmission work on a the 04 tsx ? Anyone
Unlikely, trans mount will be different for starters
I know this isn't related to your video, but I was wondering what kind of fuel economy you get now with all the mods done to your car? Oh and great video btw
Cheers and about 9l/100km
@@KiwiCarLife no way, I never expected that!
with a cl9, similar, you can get 7l/100 outside of town, i get an avarege of 10l/100km, average on 10.000kms ✌️
@@TheSilent1998 Yeah sounds about right - on the open road I average around 7, but through town it can get as bad as 10-11. Averages out around 9 between the two though
so the 7th generation has more leg room in the back, and boot space compared to the 8th?
7th Gen has more leg room, 7th gen wagon has more boot space than 8th Gen wagon
CU2 all day. One of the sexiest cars in the price bracket. Only beat by Audi and BMW
Mmm yes the cu2 is a very nice looking machine
I have accord 2litre petrol ivtec Ireland one we didn't get 2.4 which u have uk did car tax very high in IRE so they was bad seller 2litre have to do
Ahh yeah makes sense... too bad about the tax aye... The K24 is a much better car
Wait a minute. Where is the H22 typeR made in UK ? That is definitely the best . At least for track
That's not an accord euro. This is only the 7th and 8th gen accords that are branded as "accord euro"
Honda accord cu2 n honda accord cl7/9 front,sideskirt n rear bumpr ot lips its same or not???
Quite different man they’re totally different cars
@@KiwiCarLife how about front lips still different??
because i have 1 accord cu2 but it hard to find the part like sideskirt
@@laazlaaz3057 cmon man use ya head. Two cars made at different times that have totally different body panels that are completely different generations. You reckon a first gen fit bumper will fit on a 2nd gen? Ofc not
CL9, always
That or the euro r would be my pick for sure
@@KiwiCarLife CL7 in NZ ;)
The CU1 already costs me 4200 euro per year just in running costs. So insurance, road taxes and avg fuel/month. Im going to maybe move back to a Swift Sport facelift. Getting a CU2 is going to set me back even more, as its heavier, has more Co2 output and worse gas milage. :(
4200 sounds cheap to me, at least in our country, but yeah swift would be cheaper
@@KiwiCarLife That'd be 6.745,75 aussie dollars
06-08 2.0 type s models come with the k20z2 engine in Europe.
Yeah had a few people commenting that. Wasn't aware as we never got the model here. Apologies
@@KiwiCarLife No warries my friend.i own one. Modified-mugened it and it drives like a dream.Keep up the great work with your videos.
Bro you are a person who likes Accord like me,and I have question.I have K24 exectuve(She looks like yours only dont have a wing on back and she is black and AT) For few days i change oil and filters.In engine is Shell 5w40,and always was 5w40 a few years ago she use Mobile 5w40,because first owner was friend.I know what Honda says 5w-20...I think to change on 5w20,this option is 3x expensive(not problem) because in my country 5w20 is like dinosaur and only sells in 1l pack.Stays on 5w40 or some advice 5w30? Car is like a new,engine on 180,000km but great 9,6-10..Cheers
I use 5w30, but tbh there's not a massive difference between each. Just buy whatever is on sale... 5w20/30/40 will be fine. Wouldn't recommend a 0w though as it'll be too thin for an engine of those k's
@@KiwiCarLife Thank you! Monday i go shoping ;)
I have Valvoline 5w40 on good price,Total,Elf.....Now is Shell 5w40 but is not available...Maybe Mobile but in my Mg zt I'm not impressed....
What makes cu2 better daily? Just ride comfort or?
Yeah ride quality, build quality, features, fuel economy, everything. It's just a nicer car
Never thought accord would come in awd flavour. Wonder how it will handle ❤
@@TMM6900 I know, I haven’t driven one. Would be interesting to try out
Do you have a video on common issues for the Tsx / euro r? Currently have a 2005 tsx for around 5 yrs. Love it till death. But feel like it's getting up there. I wanna know what could go wrong with the car. Changed lots of parts already due to its age and milage. Eg. Alternator, starter, rear calipers, power steering pump (the replacement is terrible and makes noise). Recently felt like the RF cv axle is going out - just like what you mentioned. It vibrates under load :/ base on your video - i think my next upgrade should be the 2ndgen tsx. I don't want a direct injection and want a golden honda reliable engine. @@KiwiCarLife
I just replaced my 2006 “sports” model with a 2012 luxury with only 90’000km’s. (I was in my first ever car crash at 42 lol) I swear the 2012 is a smaller car. This has got me puzzled??? Because my 2006 was such a great car, I stayed with Honda Accord Euro.
I do think the 2012 has much better steering and slightly better suspension, but that’s debatable. For insurance I got an extra $1000 just because it was a sports. Had to chuck black matte wheels on the 2012 as the wheels were quite disappointing compared to the 2006 sports model.
I see yeah the 2nd gen is bigger on the outside but less practical inside. Fatter seats etc so more comfort eats into leg room in the back. But yeah they’re definitely nicer
Have you ever thought of turbocharging your euro cl9?
Yeah, too much money... if I wanted a turbo car I'd sell it and buy a 135i
You'd lose all the benefits you get from a _N/A_ engine. A Frankenstein build would be the next best thing.
Im happy with my k20a euroR 😁
Good car! You in wellington by any chance? Could be keen to film a video with it
@@KiwiCarLife hey man nah im in Darwin NT, the car is in Gisborne. It's been parked up there for the last 4 years at the inlaws truck yard in shed. Still in mint condition, 90k. Cant wait to holiday home when Covid settles so I can take it for a spin 😁
@@ransackmaori5725 oh yeah all good haha - nice car!
I have a pearl white cl9 over a beige interior and I wouldn't have it any other way
Nice
Honda Accord 190cv vs Impreza hastback 150cv cual va mejor?
I haven't compared them directly, however I have done a review of the impreza here:
ua-cam.com/video/i2BLW91Vz1o/v-deo.html
The cu2 all day
Mmm lovely car
I have a blue CL7 ^^
If it's a euro r can I film a video with it lol
Honda accord VII CL7 lim 2003 2,0 I-Vtec ^^ love this car but tuning is mähh Not so good ^^"
No bad honda accord, all versions is amazing.. but i can't decid to bay, 7 or 8 ...
Agreed, they are all solid vehicles
@@KiwiCarLife i driwe bmw with n46 engine, but my next vehicle its to be def. accord, 7 or 8th..
What mods would you recomend for the diesel manual?
Tbh I know nothing about them... reflash (if ones available) lowering springs, cosmetics of your choice, maybe an intake to hear that turbo flutter. Not a heap you can do
@@KiwiCarLife thanks, means a lot :D
For performance, delete egr and dpf and reflash, should get you at least 60 horses, if you wanna go to town, put a bigger turbo... suspension is identical to Kiwi's car so a similar setup would be nice.
A tune will get you from 138bhp to about 190-200, but it's the torque figures you want to look at in a diesel. 251 lb/ft becomes around 300 from a basic remap. For this, you will want some form of clutch kit as standard one can't handle that torque for long. These can be pricey here in the UK (£1.3k+ labour included)
Outside of that, just make it look good. Diesels didnt come in Type S trim so grab a nice lip-kit and slap it on. Be warned though the diesels come with a side mounted FMIC so you will need to remove the left fog light to allow air flow if fitting one of these kits to a pre-face. That and lower it on a good set of H&R, Eibach or Tein springs/coilovers and get a nice set of wheels and accomodating tyres. Progress rear anti roll bar _(RARB)_ comes recommended from many-- and get some sort of custom exhaust because the downturned 'flacid' diesel one looks pathetic. 🤣
Lastly, one of the biggest changes I made to my Accord was fitting a mesh grill & de-chroming the car. Colour coding the grill surround and blackening the chrome around the windows.
Something else everyone always overlooks is lighting. A good set of white bulbs up front (I recommend Osram Nightbreakers)- good LED sight lights & rear number plate lights and polish those headlights to make them look new!
Something else to note, these diesels are very fussy when it comes to servicing. They only like _OEM_ Bosch parts. Failing this causes it to throw up an EML and go into limp mode at times. Just a heads up 😜
@@baker6928 Thanks for the super detailed comment :D
Can I get your instagram or some sort of other thing, so that I could ask you for something else incase I need help? :)
To bad we don't have the diesel in the USA bc i want it
It would be cool yeah
1:12 also k20z2 in Europe
Yeah I've had a couple of people say that - because I don't live there and there's very little information out there, it is hard to cover every corner. But thanks for the info!
@@KiwiCarLife i own one of them, is very similar with k20a6, but with drive by wire throttle.
Yeah the CU3 type s 2.2 diesel 180bhp stock that’s the one I have great car to drive just looking to get new tyres on it maybe pilot sport 3 or 4 but there pricey have To think about it… but great car motorway cruiser at its best 😀
Ps4's are good but I think there are better tyres for the price like re003s or Hankook ventus v2 concept 2
You can't beat PS4's; but as an alternative try Goodyear Eagle F1's, I highly recommend them. Uniroyal Rain-sports are also good tyres. If you're on a budget, try NEXEN.
must suck being an alpha tauri fan rn man
Lol I don't even watch F1 I just like the merch
@@KiwiCarLife I also thought you are Red Bull and Alpha Tauri F1 fan like me.
Correction for you: Accord Euro was manufactured from November 2002 :)
Yes, however in NZ they didn't go on sale until February 2003.... I can only really speak for the country I live in. And I thought I mentioned in the video the CL8 and CM1? Or are you talking about another model with the same chassis code?
@@KiwiCarLife yeah I saw you mentioned those CL8 and CM1 later in the video. :)
But yeah the Euro starts at November 2002. In New Zealand you can buy car that was made in 2002 and registered as 2003. Not in Japan, if the car made in 2002 then it will be registered as 2002. But NZ model year came out with 2003 even though it was a 2002. I hope I explained it correctly 😂
@@maxxibro Yeah nah makes sense. That's the case with a lot of cars if they are built late in the year. By the time they get here and are registered, it's the next year.
@@KiwiCarLife Yep, that's definitely be it. How's Wellywood? Here in Hamilton things are getting back to the old way, well slowly.
@@maxxibro Yeah we're pretty much back to normal now besides the mask
Cu2
Good car
Cl
Yes
In short: don’t buy any Euro’s with a Tan/Beige interior 😂
Yes hahah
CU CU2 CU CU2
Good car