It sucks we couldn’t watch the 2nd half of this scene seeing savathun rise again and our guardian being a Giga Chad threatening savathun with a simple “I am”
And then the backlash from Eris using her power in direct opposing of Arath’s domain shatters Eris’s ritual from within, draining her tithes (presumably handing them off to the throne world she just banished Xivu from) and knocking her out of godhood. Eris could technically always try again, but she herself has neither the need or stomach to do so. My question _now_ is… *_What happens to Xivu Arath’s now-vacant Throne World?_* I hope the “Hearsay” Episode of Final Shape is centered around a race by all factions to break into her empty throne and take Arath’s sealed godhood for themselves.
So basically we hurt the hive gods by cutting off their sources of power. As Eddie Murphy once said, “the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people.”
That still leaves two gods roaming around the galaxy. One already hates us, and we can’t trust the other one but at least we have her ghost so silver lining I guess.
I dont know why we still think we can't trust her. Everything she has done, she's done to fight the Witness. She's extremly common sensical and logical
Savathun: “you look good honey” Eris: “I’m bout to slay you and use the guardian’s history of violence against your people to banish your sister from heaven.”
The Guardian has always been straight forward. Destroy all threats to mankind by any means necessary sums it up. Considering they have canonically proven they are a definitive juggernaut of a combatant and will absolutely follow through on the any means necessary, I would trust that siding with them and not crossing them is the wise decision. And as long as thats the case, xenos get a pass to live.
Top of that, The Guardian is pretty smart too. Of course, they had some help, but being able to solve a lot of tricks and see through the lies of Savathún makes sure that a lot of conventional stuff she’s used on other people won’t exactly work on them.
The way into the Pale Heart might have been staring us in the face this whole time. At the end of the Lightfall, the Witness used our Ghost to make the bridge through the portal. We possibly have to do the same using Immaru. Might be killed during the process for a permanent link but that little twit gets what he deserves at this point.
I’m still trying to figure out why we are the ones fighting all these baddies when obviously the other guardians are so much more powerful than us. Eris one taps savathun while I had to dance around for 30 minutes. Ikora use a kame hame level nova bomb to kill a massive ogre and blast a hole in a door in one shot.
Thats all game balance. Canonically I think the main playable guardian is said to be the single strongest character in the franchise, or at least one of them. Hell we could use back to back supers at one point. Shards of Galanor was a thing!
No we are definitely the strongest guardian in the game. The reason "we don't" spam supers is for gameplay reasons. Allowing us to play the game at our character's lore accurate level would take away all challenge in destiny. We would be able to spam our supers and travel at the speed of light. It's the same concept as the doom series. In lore doomslayer can literally rip apart any demon with his own fists with ease. the only reason he uses guns is for gameplay reasons; and the lore for him using guns is that it gives him more of a challenge than if he were to use his fists.
Wait. When we killed Savathun ourselves, wouldn’t her power be up for grabs like Oryx’s was when we killed him? Or because it was part of her plan that didn’t work?
When powered by Sword Logic it takes the energy in a far different manner. She was killed by a Hive, Savathun and Xivu only took those measures to power each other up when they're on the brink of losing its how Oryx became the Taken King after killing his sisters and adding their power to his, he stood against Akka the Worm god of secrets and used it's corpse as the outer layer of his deadnaught.
We killed both Savathun and Oryx with bomb logic rather than sword logic. With Oryx, we systematically slew his systems of tribute Crota, and every King's Fall encounter. With Savathun, we defeated her trickery by revealing the truth of the Witness's deception. Eris meanwhile killed Savathun with sword logic. The tithes we kept feeding Eris allowed the new god of vengeance to grow more powerful than Savathun and by proving her greater might, Savathun's power yielded to the stronger being. The act of killing itself isn't the trigger for the power transference but rather the philosophy of the death and the victor's desire to claim that power.
Imagine you pull up to where your house normally is and it's just straight up not there. Except the house is a planet and you're a god and you know who did it.
I was seriously hoping that we'd bring Savathûn back by embodying her, and I was severely let down. Still, Eris killing Savathûn and taking her power was definitely something I expected.
Dang, the witch queen died 3rd time, and rezzed 2 times (final cutscene of Season of the Witch and after cutscene) and yeah, she left her own hive ghost, hehehe, looks like we're going to torture him without getting destroying the core (mostly we don't want to destroy him because he's the key of freaking final dlc!)...
Wait till you read the lore tab about saint pulling up and merkin her for hours after everything to let her get use to reviving, and to have some self therapy
Call me naive but after Eris becoming the strongest Hive in the universe only to let it all go I think it's safe to say Elsie's dark future is officially off.
You’re forgetting that Savathun has had 1000s of years of Power stored up, power which wasn’t lost unlike Oryx who relied too hard on tribute from his Court and children and payed for it
I like that savathun can be killed like Amy other lucent hive. Just when we fought her on the throne world she was at her highest power but now in our realm she’s just any other guardian she can be killed. There’s a lore entry that byf was talking about that apparently saint 14 had savathun raised and killed over and over…
Oh no.....she tricks us , we realize xivu arath from her worm and the rules of the throne world. I hope we keep the body of oryx safety, because is they resurrected him we death
That feels... anticlimactic... I was expecting a big fucking battle between Xivu and Eris, I mean what she did was clever, yeah, but... kind of disappointing.
@@MrVidman14 I expected visuals, an actual thing happening before our eyes, she was legit stronger than any hive in existence, she could have actually beat them in a fight.
@@MrVidman14 Its like fighting Orks in Warhammer 40k, fighting them normally is the literal worst idea. Beating them requires subverting their basis of strength. Xivu now has no immortality clause. Sure her army still serves her, but the Guardian has made it clear they can kill gods as long as they can deal with immortality clauses first (Crota was an idiot, and well Oryx kinda screwed himself with his power based decisions). And Xivu is very much now Guardian chow if we get a shot.
Nah. Because the gardener gave savathun the light and by extension immaru. Xivu arath would hate to have a ghost as it is a massive conflict towards the sword logic
Does it not seem like a really bad idea to continue letting the Witch Queen live (despite us having her ghost) considering how well she's proven herself as a schemer and manipulator?
From the way, it’s looking to building up this is gonna be the next expansion pass boss fight. They’re probably gonna treat this like witch queen one I’m excited tho
So Bungie’s writers couldn’t figure out how to deal with a character like Xivu Arath and Savathun and also deal with the Final Shape DLC, so in the span of 1 season they effectively dropped an anticlimactic “please accept our mediocrity” solution. Seems like everything surrounding Destiny has gone to utter shit.
Well, there goes the only well-written character in this franchise's entire history. Also I see bungie is still at it with the whole "standing around doing absolutely nothing while npcs spout exposition at you in monotone" thing for seasonal content. I'll be back when the game gets better.
it isn't going to get better i left when beyond light released and got a refund cause it shipped a broken unoptimized mess best to just let the game die at that point the devs don't care about making a quality game they just want you to buy every season pass as they remove content you paid for (curse of Osiris, forsaken, black armory, and probably shadowkeep under the excuse of "freeing up space") cut your losses don't look back.
SO IMMARU OUR HOSTAGE STILL LOL AND HIVE LIGHT STILL OUR ENEMY EVEN THOUGH THEIR A TRUCE also does that mean only maara sov has a throne world and technically xivu arath cant use taken lol
Xivu Arath can only command taken She's never had the ability to take Even when trying to take Ahsa, a ritual had to be performed since the power isn't hers
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Eris: I am your ruin.
Savathun:
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👁️ 👄 👁️
It sucks we couldn’t watch the 2nd half of this scene seeing savathun rise again and our guardian being a Giga Chad threatening savathun with a simple “I am”
Would have been an all time destiny moment
"Aiat."
"I am."
Savathûn has left the chat.
The gist: We juiced Eris, Immaru rezzed Savathun, Eris killed Savathun got Uber juiced then *Locked Xivu out of her throne*
And then the backlash from Eris using her power in direct opposing of Arath’s domain shatters Eris’s ritual from within, draining her tithes (presumably handing them off to the throne world she just banished Xivu from) and knocking her out of godhood.
Eris could technically always try again, but she herself has neither the need or stomach to do so.
My question _now_ is… *_What happens to Xivu Arath’s now-vacant Throne World?_*
I hope the “Hearsay” Episode of Final Shape is centered around a race by all factions to break into her empty throne and take Arath’s sealed godhood for themselves.
So basically we hurt the hive gods by cutting off their sources of power.
As Eddie Murphy once said, “the best way to hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people.”
The funniest part about this whole thing is that Savathun let us keep Immaru. All that shit talking got him some good karma XD
@@pece0221 Immaru: Um… wait! Boss! Can we talk about this? You can’t leave me here with them! These people are crazy!
Savathun: Sorry Immaru.
Eris cased Xivu’s house and stalked her until she left for her work commute then sprinted in and changed the locks out of pure spite
That still leaves two gods roaming around the galaxy. One already hates us, and we can’t trust the other one but at least we have her ghost so silver lining I guess.
I mean just because She's locked out of her throne world Doesn't mean she can't get to Solar system by other means And that leaves three gods,
You're forgetting the missing worm Gods Eir and Yul. Only 2 of the 5 are confirmed to be dead. We killed the weakest,
So we have 6 God's in our solar system and 7th left, through a portal
I dont know why we still think we can't trust her. Everything she has done, she's done to fight the Witness. She's extremly common sensical and logical
@@RKarnageit's not what she does it. it's the how she does this is the problem. savathun will bring ruin if let free. and rn she is.
Xivu Arath’s phone right now: Caiatl would like to know your location
>becomes god
>kills another god cause y not
>returns human
>drinks tea
i wanna be like her or somethin
Great summary of Season of the Witch 💀
Xivu arath has been permanently banned from destiny 2 servers without appeal
Savathun: “you look good honey”
Eris: “I’m bout to slay you and use the guardian’s history of violence against your people to banish your sister from heaven.”
Now the most homicidal being since the Witness (whom is on the list to be killed) has Xivu's number.
It just occurred to me, eris won by effectively pulling a "highlander" if anyone remembers those old movies. Lol
There can be only one!
"I, am your ruin" a quote that is equally badass and true.
I find it oddly humorous that a Hive God/Queen of lies and deception...trusts us completely.
The Guardian has always been straight forward. Destroy all threats to mankind by any means necessary sums it up. Considering they have canonically proven they are a definitive juggernaut of a combatant and will absolutely follow through on the any means necessary, I would trust that siding with them and not crossing them is the wise decision. And as long as thats the case, xenos get a pass to live.
Top of that, The Guardian is pretty smart too. Of course, they had some help, but being able to solve a lot of tricks and see through the lies of Savathún makes sure that a lot of conventional stuff she’s used on other people won’t exactly work on them.
The way into the Pale Heart might have been staring us in the face this whole time. At the end of the Lightfall, the Witness used our Ghost to make the bridge through the portal. We possibly have to do the same using Immaru. Might be killed during the process for a permanent link but that little twit gets what he deserves at this point.
I’m still trying to figure out why we are the ones fighting all these baddies when obviously the other guardians are so much more powerful than us. Eris one taps savathun while I had to dance around for 30 minutes. Ikora use a kame hame level nova bomb to kill a massive ogre and blast a hole in a door in one shot.
For real. at this point we might as well go on vacation.
Thats all game balance. Canonically I think the main playable guardian is said to be the single strongest character in the franchise, or at least one of them. Hell we could use back to back supers at one point. Shards of Galanor was a thing!
No we are definitely the strongest guardian in the game. The reason "we don't" spam supers is for gameplay reasons. Allowing us to play the game at our character's lore accurate level would take away all challenge in destiny. We would be able to spam our supers and travel at the speed of light. It's the same concept as the doom series. In lore doomslayer can literally rip apart any demon with his own fists with ease. the only reason he uses guns is for gameplay reasons; and the lore for him using guns is that it gives him more of a challenge than if he were to use his fists.
Wait. When we killed Savathun ourselves, wouldn’t her power be up for grabs like Oryx’s was when we killed him? Or because it was part of her plan that didn’t work?
When powered by Sword Logic it takes the energy in a far different manner. She was killed by a Hive, Savathun and Xivu only took those measures to power each other up when they're on the brink of losing its how Oryx became the Taken King after killing his sisters and adding their power to his, he stood against Akka the Worm god of secrets and used it's corpse as the outer layer of his deadnaught.
We killed both Savathun and Oryx with bomb logic rather than sword logic. With Oryx, we systematically slew his systems of tribute Crota, and every King's Fall encounter. With Savathun, we defeated her trickery by revealing the truth of the Witness's deception.
Eris meanwhile killed Savathun with sword logic. The tithes we kept feeding Eris allowed the new god of vengeance to grow more powerful than Savathun and by proving her greater might, Savathun's power yielded to the stronger being. The act of killing itself isn't the trigger for the power transference but rather the philosophy of the death and the victor's desire to claim that power.
Imagine you pull up to where your house normally is and it's just straight up not there.
Except the house is a planet and you're a god and you know who did it.
Can't have shit in sol man
To mike a slight adjustment on your analogy; the one who *did it* changed the keys so that *only you* don't have access to it.
@@xrstevensonand took the spare one under the doormat
@@top_banananaplays And barred the windows
Wait, she's "happy"?
Dear god we are so screwed.
Pretty epic. Eris being challenged by a war god only for her to say “fuck you.”
I was seriously hoping that we'd bring Savathûn back by embodying her, and I was severely let down. Still, Eris killing Savathûn and taking her power was definitely something I expected.
Hive Eris goes kinda hard and I’m all for it
Eris is Savathün. Calling it now.
Dang, the witch queen died 3rd time, and rezzed 2 times (final cutscene of Season of the Witch and after cutscene) and yeah, she left her own hive ghost, hehehe, looks like we're going to torture him without getting destroying the core (mostly we don't want to destroy him because he's the key of freaking final dlc!)...
Wait till you read the lore tab about saint pulling up and merkin her for hours after everything to let her get use to reviving, and to have some self therapy
ngl eris looked badass in that hive fit
Call me naive but after Eris becoming the strongest Hive in the universe only to let it all go I think it's safe to say Elsie's dark future is officially off.
Eris: tithed for 7 weeks, slit Savathuns throat=strongest hive to ever live
Oryx: hmm cute
to be honest, if you had millions of god slayers tithing you power, you'd get pretty damn strong, really freaking quickly.
You’re forgetting that Savathun has had 1000s of years of Power stored up, power which wasn’t lost unlike Oryx who relied too hard on tribute from his Court and children and payed for it
I like that savathun can be killed like Amy other lucent hive. Just when we fought her on the throne world she was at her highest power but now in our realm she’s just any other guardian she can be killed. There’s a lore entry that byf was talking about that apparently saint 14 had savathun raised and killed over and over…
Oh no.....she tricks us , we realize xivu arath from her worm and the rules of the throne world. I hope we keep the body of oryx safety, because is they resurrected him we death
We would just bury him again… as we have so many times before.
Unless we're the ones that get killed to rez him
okay so savathun is… still alive? Eris morn killing her that easy doesn’t really feel like a permanent death
Oryx killed his sisters to gain power. The hive kill each eternally.
Plus she said immaru resurrected her
@@devinthierault Yeah I knew that, was just curious if Savathun was actually dead this time but she isnt
@@ashar9093 still want that Eris Morn becoming the witch queen thing to happen one day... probably save that for the next saga
Naw Immaru resurrects her again after this.
"Aiat"
That feels... anticlimactic... I was expecting a big fucking battle between Xivu and Eris, I mean what she did was clever, yeah, but... kind of disappointing.
Tbf how else do you beat a War God, a battle seems like the worst way to win, with stalemate being the best case
@@MrVidman14 I expected visuals, an actual thing happening before our eyes, she was legit stronger than any hive in existence, she could have actually beat them in a fight.
@@MrVidman14 Its like fighting Orks in Warhammer 40k, fighting them normally is the literal worst idea. Beating them requires subverting their basis of strength. Xivu now has no immortality clause. Sure her army still serves her, but the Guardian has made it clear they can kill gods as long as they can deal with immortality clauses first (Crota was an idiot, and well Oryx kinda screwed himself with his power based decisions). And Xivu is very much now Guardian chow if we get a shot.
so I quit after the season of the splicer but this randomly showed up in my feed
what the hell
💀💀same i do not understand one thing that is happening
So you can log in and watch the video archive
Savathun gets revived to only get her power taken and killed as well😂
I didn't know Eris was a spawn camper
tea and silence, baby
Wait if 😊 if the hive goddess of war is now mortal doesn’t that mean her ghost will be coming for her if she is executed?
Nah. Because the gardener gave savathun the light and by extension immaru. Xivu arath would hate to have a ghost as it is a massive conflict towards the sword logic
@@anonymousjk860 yes but if she dies the traveler will do it anyway is what has happen so many times
if she had a ghost she would very likely crush it
Xivu doesn't have a ghost
@@ttgprince7790 Ik but her ghost might come to her like the witch queen did
The ending was very anticlimactic. All hype and no battle, no flex of real power; just dialog and one shot and Eris wins.
For real. I’m glad I stopped playing this trash
@@ShadowRavenGaming222 yet you’re still here commenting. No need to announce your departures. Are you an airport?
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i can't remember the name of the sword that eris used
I’m still kinda confused. Couldn’t Immaru revive Savathun again?
He can, but Eris used the sword logic to gain enough power to do her thing. That’s what I’m assuming anyway.
He did after this he brought her back as a sign of good faith
Bro is the Doomslayer
LoL 90 % of the story has been done in the NPC dialogue
Bungo
I’m no Destiny Lore study but is the GOOD IR BAD
Does it not seem like a really bad idea to continue letting the Witch Queen live (despite us having her ghost) considering how well she's proven herself as a schemer and manipulator?
so does this mean xivu raid confirmed orrrr ?!?
A bit lazy Eris just kills sava and takes her power then just gets to reject it don’t make sense to me
It's the sword logic man. Read on it
😮 0_0 what the heck 😅
1st
also nice vid
All good and shit but why do the guardians have to fight Xivu if Eris Morn is now the strongest hive?
You know I was kinda hoping we had to kill Eris in this season
From the way, it’s looking to building up this is gonna be the next expansion pass boss fight. They’re probably gonna treat this like witch queen one I’m excited tho
Well this was kinda disappointing ngl
So Bungie’s writers couldn’t figure out how to deal with a character like Xivu Arath and Savathun and also deal with the Final Shape DLC, so in the span of 1 season they effectively dropped an anticlimactic “please accept our mediocrity” solution.
Seems like everything surrounding Destiny has gone to utter shit.
Hard agree.
This has been lead up to for like all year bruh, you just do not understand the sword logic stuff
Wait. Savathun is dead dead?
nope. she's been revived as implied by Ikora's "As much as it went against my instinct to let her get away"
As underwhelming as always destiny
what?
Honestly season of the witch is so trans-coded. I will not be taking input on this.
L
The fuck are you talking about?
Trans coded?
This game really has gone to shit.
So the moral of the story is; we crippled a depressed chick, and took Mommy's stress ball.
10/10, would play again
bad game
Well, there goes the only well-written character in this franchise's entire history. Also I see bungie is still at it with the whole "standing around doing absolutely nothing while npcs spout exposition at you in monotone" thing for seasonal content. I'll be back when the game gets better.
it isn't going to get better i left when beyond light released and got a refund cause it shipped a broken unoptimized mess best to just let the game die at that point the devs don't care about making a quality game they just want you to buy every season pass as they remove content you paid for (curse of Osiris, forsaken, black armory, and probably shadowkeep under the excuse of "freeing up space") cut your losses don't look back.
SO IMMARU OUR HOSTAGE STILL LOL AND HIVE LIGHT STILL OUR ENEMY EVEN THOUGH THEIR A TRUCE also does that mean only maara sov has a throne world and technically xivu arath cant use taken lol
Xivu Arath can only command taken
She's never had the ability to take
Even when trying to take Ahsa, a ritual had to be performed since the power isn't hers
it canon peak eris stronger than oryx lol
Very silly