Yea bro try flash on ninja kiwi archive ye that woest version of btd5 but just feel. That in 2018 paying for games (me and friends) was like none so flash was only and that was amazing
I could be wrong but I think Deflation Mode uses the same difficulty as Medium, so it was really surprising to me that the Freeplay rounds got that difficult so quickly.
You could have probably saved around 100 dollars on the village upgrades by getting 2 villages and selling the other one for 99% sellback lol Very useful, I know
I think the biggest thing I saw for improvement was your positioning for your ice shards. I never really saw it produce any ice shards, because the position dictates the timing with the arctic wind. If you mess around with the positioning, it will do a lot more damage, even to the ZOMG’s
I was doing some digging on Monkey Fort and apparently many "splatter" projectiles (mostly explosives) pierce and cause an additional attack when in range of 0/1 village. Notable examples that might have implications for this run are Hydra Rocket Pods, Spectre and MOAB Assassin.
I was fuming when you forgot to get absolute zero. Seriously, it cripples the speed of moabs even though it probably shouldn't (because it's kinda OP sometimes). You could also use bloon sabotage for even more slowdown.
I thought absolute zero only slowed MOAB class bloons in BTD Battles honestly, I know Sabo only works on newly spawned bloons which is the reason I didn't use it here. Not saying it wouldn't work I just wasn't sure if it was worth go away from the traditional deflation strategy
you always face freeplay bloons in deflation in btd5, because in this mode there is no goal round (or round 0), any bloon after the goal round will always use freeplay bloons rules (aka easy r51, medium r66 and hard r86)
Given I've seen your part of the bargain, and someone mentioning the lack of Absolute Zero, not a bad first try. Given it can be overcome with the use of AZ, at the expense of some Maulers, but even then two or bit more Maulers left out doesn't compare to basically near double the time to tear through the tougher layers before the faster MOABs zip by.
I don't know if this applies to btd5, but btd6 can slightly impact gameplay if you use the speedup function, dunno if that could squeeze out an extra round
Banging video. If u really wanted to extend it further you could theoretically start spamming super monkey storms right? i don't know how effective it would be but it would surely help a little bit. would be ridiculously expensive tho
I'm sure that would have some value for sure, but I was mainly worried they would be difficult to use because their isn't a hotkey for special agents and the mouse was controlling my Bloonsday Devices
Nice video. As someone already said I think if you used sabo to slow bloons coming in and the ice ability to slow the blimps then maybe you could’ve gotten further. If call to arms works on the bloonsday devices maybe that wouldve helped but idk. GG
Nice video!❤ I would have said that the passages with the sped up footage were a little bit boring but the peak music was a great filler! (I love Tim Haywood)
Were you using a monkey knowledge lab by chance because if not that is absolutely insane. I think my best run was 107 under NAPS but with the Lab maxed out
That is definitely possible, the one issue with them is that they only stall new bloons in this game, which means you don't get nearly as much value as you do in BTD Battles
Call to Arms could definitely be worth it, depending on how long it lasts compared to its cool down duration. As far as the Maulers go, I think it tends to be the best late game tower when your funds are limited but the 4,2 Bloonchipper is the best overall
It actually just doubles the range of the bomb tower, which is notorious for being the only activated ability that can make towers worse. Since the range becomes so huge they can end up missing sometimes.
That's definitely a good idea and I've considered doing it before, when I made my video "Can BTD1 Towers Beat BTD5". I'm thinking a video with BTD5 towers in BTD6 could be a good way to transition into also posting content on the newest game
That's a good question, if you go back to one of my first videos I actually didn't know Express Shipping was the longest map yet, so I used Maze instead.
@ Oh yeah, and towards the end, when your defense is getting overwhelmed, sell everything, and start spamming Ground Zero abilities. Should be enough to squeeze out a few more rounds.
I would have to remake it myself lol, but for real I'm glad they added it to the game because BTD5 didn't really have a map that's similar to Logs on BTD6 before it
That could have possibly helped, but unfortunately there are no hotkeys for the special agents, so I would have to keep clicking on the super monkey Storm and then bringing my mouse back to the bloons.
I wanted to try something new with this video, and I also didn't want it to only be 5 minutes long. So I figured people might want to see the progression of freeplay rounds
this channel has inspired me to give btd5 a shot, honestly it has a really different feel to 6 i'd recommend anyone who's only played 6 to try it
Yea bro try flash on ninja kiwi archive ye that woest version of btd5 but just feel. That in 2018 paying for games (me and friends) was like none so flash was only and that was amazing
Wait
There's a 6th game?
Cheese
@@JediSteve-J3- Yeah, it's been out for 6 years already
@@JediSteve-J3-how do you not know lmao
peak content. (ive never played btd5 in my life)
same thing
Bloons is my life !!
@@howsitgoing2397You should really got to a doctor. Dont go near a dart
i only can play btd5 era games lol and btdb2
@antigayslam i am stuck in the basement. Send food.. PLEASE
Dang the ramping has gotta be insane in this game, even with all the death lasers you still only went 10 more rounds
I could be wrong but I think Deflation Mode uses the same difficulty as Medium, so it was really surprising to me that the Freeplay rounds got that difficult so quickly.
Perfect timing to watch while getting ready for bed
You could have probably saved around 100 dollars on the village upgrades by getting 2 villages and selling the other one for 99% sellback lol
Very useful, I know
That's true and I mean honestly 100 bucks is still extra range on another MOAB Mauler lol, every bit counts for sure.
dude your content is amazing, nobody else is making btd5 content like this anymore, thanks for keeping my love for the game alive
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm really glad that people can still enjoy BTD5 with me through these videos
So happy that you are keeping this game alive! :)
Thank you! I'm really grateful people will still watch BTD5 content in 2024, I never expected to get this far honestly
BTD5 videos always bring back great memories of playing it back in school
I am a fan of the Bloons Tower Defense series.
That was impressive, didn't though that you would be able to get that far
I was honestly really surprised myself!
I think the biggest thing I saw for improvement was your positioning for your ice shards. I never really saw it produce any ice shards, because the position dictates the timing with the arctic wind. If you mess around with the positioning, it will do a lot more damage, even to the ZOMG’s
I was doing some digging on Monkey Fort and apparently many "splatter" projectiles (mostly explosives) pierce and cause an additional attack when in range of 0/1 village. Notable examples that might have implications for this run are Hydra Rocket Pods, Spectre and MOAB Assassin.
That's really good to know, I appreciate you sharing!
it's nice to have those little montages to chill to, meta progression really helps to push this run further wowz
(also btdx vid when)
Yoo you're right I really gotta get back on BTDx, it's been awhile now
@@Phenomix Speaking of BTDx, maybe there is (or soon) an early build of BTDx2? Hopefully it will be a great game.
Nice, I was just looking for a new upload
I was fuming when you forgot to get absolute zero. Seriously, it cripples the speed of moabs even though it probably shouldn't (because it's kinda OP sometimes). You could also use bloon sabotage for even more slowdown.
I thought absolute zero only slowed MOAB class bloons in BTD Battles honestly, I know Sabo only works on newly spawned bloons which is the reason I didn't use it here. Not saying it wouldn't work I just wasn't sure if it was worth go away from the traditional deflation strategy
THANK YOU BRO FOR BTD5 CONTENT 🙏🙏🙏 I NEEDED IT🙏🙏 FINALLY ONE PERSON🙏🙏
I'm really glad to hear that bro it's awesome to see people still wanting to watch it!
you always face freeplay bloons in deflation in btd5, because in this mode there is no goal round (or round 0), any bloon after the goal round will always use freeplay bloons rules (aka easy r51, medium r66 and hard r86)
No wonder it gets difficult so quickly then
Tip: Using multiple village will reduce the cost of both village's upgrades.
You could spent all your savings to buy super monkey storms and just spam them to eternity.
Have u thought about Sabo and absolute zero? I'm pretty sure that stalling will make a difference
I definitely considered it and I could try them still, I have the run saved still
I was going to comment that too
Dont they only work on moabs in battles?
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Given I've seen your part of the bargain, and someone mentioning the lack of Absolute Zero, not a bad first try. Given it can be overcome with the use of AZ, at the expense of some Maulers, but even then two or bit more Maulers left out doesn't compare to basically near double the time to tear through the tougher layers before the faster MOABs zip by.
I honestly didn't realize Absolute Zero can affect MOAB class bloons in BTD5, I really thought that was only a Battles thing
@@Phenomix it kills pretty much everything in one hit
I don't know if this applies to btd5, but btd6 can slightly impact gameplay if you use the speedup function, dunno if that could squeeze out an extra round
I've heard that about BTD6 as well and I'm sure it does apply to BTD5 as well
Banging video. If u really wanted to extend it further you could theoretically start spamming super monkey storms right? i don't know how effective it would be but it would surely help a little bit. would be ridiculously expensive tho
I'm sure that would have some value for sure, but I was mainly worried they would be difficult to use because their isn't a hotkey for special agents and the mouse was controlling my Bloonsday Devices
@@Phenomix aahhhh. damn so you probably got pretty much up on the limit then. Well done!
Nice video. As someone already said I think if you used sabo to slow bloons coming in and the ice ability to slow the blimps then maybe you could’ve gotten further.
If call to arms works on the bloonsday devices maybe that wouldve helped but idk. GG
Nice video!❤ I would have said that the passages with the sped up footage were a little bit boring but the peak music was a great filler! (I love Tim Haywood)
I was heavily debating if I should include them or not and I was really hoping the music would help haha, glad to hear it did
So awesome you can push deflation to its true limit!!! (If on flash you can use premiums to spam ground zero ability I saw the video long ago)
I definitely gotta make a video on the Flash Version of BTD5
Epic Strat🎉
In theory, it's infinite because of Super Monkey Storm.
My pb on deflation in this map is round 104 (NAPS), no idea what the actual WR is though. Nice video man!
Were you using a monkey knowledge lab by chance because if not that is absolutely insane. I think my best run was 107 under NAPS but with the Lab maxed out
@@Phenomix Nop dude, lab was off! I got challenged by another BTD5 youtuber!
@@Phenomix Round 104 was nowhere near beatable for me though😅
@@Phenomix Just tried again out of curiosity: New PB, got to round 105, though i cant really pass it. NAPS and lab fully off.
Is there ramping in this game? Like in BTD6 where all the bloons progressively get faster and blimps gain more HP the further you get in freeplay
Yeah I'm not exactly sure how the stats work but I know there is ramping for sure
I think ramping is not percent based so there not really a limit if you can spam temples
is that the btd4 sountrack on the later bit of the sped up gameplay?
Yessir that was the last song in the video
Never really played deflation, but would a 4th tier ninja and ice abilities make things easier? Or is it better just to get maulers
That is definitely possible, the one issue with them is that they only stall new bloons in this game, which means you don't get nearly as much value as you do in BTD Battles
@@PhenomixI just did an attempt with the ninja and ice abilities, and it does seem to be quite effective as I made it to round 150 with it.
wouldnt a radar scanner village just been less expensive than both ice monkeys?
Oh for sure but I also use the ice towers to clean up all the ceramics because the bombs wouldn't be enough to handle them on their own.
is there a better tower than moab mauler lategame (for the price) and is call to arms worth it?
Call to Arms could definitely be worth it, depending on how long it lasts compared to its cool down duration. As far as the Maulers go, I think it tends to be the best late game tower when your funds are limited but the 4,2 Bloonchipper is the best overall
I've got to round 146 in BTD5 deflation on Flash with all premiums activated. The RBE on R146 is: 1,740,252
That's insane!
what does the bomb ability do? you had 39 of those and you couldve used them
It actually just doubles the range of the bomb tower, which is notorious for being the only activated ability that can make towers worse. Since the range becomes so huge they can end up missing sometimes.
idea: how far can you go in btd6 using only btd5 upgrades?
That's definitely a good idea and I've considered doing it before, when I made my video "Can BTD1 Towers Beat BTD5". I'm thinking a video with BTD5 towers in BTD6 could be a good way to transition into also posting content on the newest game
If Express shiping didnt exist then what map would you use for these videos?
That's a good question, if you go back to one of my first videos I actually didn't know Express Shipping was the longest map yet, so I used Maze instead.
@Phenomix thanks for answering
What about doing the same thing, just replacing the bombs with 4-0 chippers? You could completely cut the village out of the equation.
I was thinking about that myself, I can definitely give it a try and see if that makes it further
@ Oh yeah, and towards the end, when your defense is getting overwhelmed, sell everything, and start spamming Ground Zero abilities. Should be enough to squeeze out a few more rounds.
Phenomix if it Expréss Shiping didn't exist:Now what do I do dude?
I would have to remake it myself lol, but for real I'm glad they added it to the game because BTD5 didn't really have a map that's similar to Logs on BTD6 before it
@@Phenomix The equivalent to express shipping in 6 is definitely resort, not logs. Just look at it
I remember when you had 600 subs
Thanks for being one of them!
what about supermonkey storm ?
Yeah I was thinking about that as well, I just wasn't sure if it was worth using since it's only a 1 time use. But I'll have to try it out for sure
I'm surprised bloonchipper isn't used here. Is it cause it's not actually good, or is it just not in this version of the game?
It's definitely better, but it's simply too expensive for a deflation run and not as effective due to lack of money
Yeah that was my thinking as well, due to the price of a 4,0 I don't think it's worth using over the bomb tower.
Now try this on Apopalypse
That's a great idea I noticed there barely seems to be any content about Apopalypse
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I think there can be a better strategy than MOAB maulers and ice monkey
It's definitely possible, but I'm not sure what it would be cause that's always been the strategy people use
Moab maulers just do way too insane damage. Find something else that can solo the Moab layer on any map for 2.5k, I dare you.
Could you have spammed super monkey storms?
That could have possibly helped, but unfortunately there are no hotkeys for the special agents, so I would have to keep clicking on the super monkey Storm and then bringing my mouse back to the bloons.
Why is half the video gameplay with music
I wanted to try something new with this video, and I also didn't want it to only be 5 minutes long. So I figured people might want to see the progression of freeplay rounds
I mean you could use super monkey storms infinitely but that'd be boring
Yeah I should've tested those for a bit definitely
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Deflation mode was the best in btd 4 and 5. In 6 it sucks
Why??????
Pretty sure it kinda sucked in all of them
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where did the moistcritical voice go lol
next make impoppable wr so how far in impobbable mode
That's a good idea for sure, I do have a video where I test the limits of BTD5 high rounds in general.
I got btd5
i just woke up lol
Hmm, me likey
Glad to hear it!
"No agents, Premium upgrades or specialist buildings"
proceeds to violate each rule in the worst way possible
Wait I'm confused, you know I specifically said I'm not bound by any of those rules this time, right?
oh sorry i didn't realize that lol