I mean, of course it is. Bad mic angry Mauler clearly talking about something without much prep was what made his best content. The more time an effort he puts in, the worse it gets.
I remember that little story he once told about being outside at night, walking the street alone, wearing a hoodie, and that he crossed the street just so he wouldn't have to confront an old lady and make her feel scared. Maybe Outside Mauler is just inherently intimidating.
I was just about to say he sounds aggressively more Welsh in this clip I assume due to him being out of his element and whatever his recording space is.
I mean of course it does. This is like his old stuff. Which is way funnier any of the stuff he puts so much effort into. Far more honest feeling as well.
Avatar 2: Somehow the humans returned because all the important resources for humanity are concentrated on planet Pandora. I can't wait to see what planet we will explore next in Avatar 3.
It's funny how all this time has passed and apparently they haven't found planets with the resources they want, but without the opposing sentient species.
@@afelias I would actually say that an important resource having a biological origin would rule out the option of harvesting it from other planets. Then the settings would have a similar conflict to Dune - the spice on Arrakis is produced by larval sandworms which is a species native only to planet Arrakis. That part is fine, Pandora is Arrakis but a lot more water. Where Avatar tripped up is that that uber important resource is - by some insane coincidence - native to the same planet where another uber important resource can also be exclusively found on. So now instead of having a Dune-like setting, Avatar has created a Star Wars problem where everything inevitably connects back to Tatooine (except for the show Andor, I'm shocked to find nothing in that show that connects back to Tatooine). It stretches suspension of disbelief and makes the universe feels small and under-explored. Avatar had it much worse than Star Wars because Avatar after 2 movies has acknowledged the existence of at most... 3 planets, that's Earth, Pandora and the blue giant that Pandora orbits around. Star Wars did badly, but at least after 2 movies has acknowledged the existence of 8 planets: Tatooine, Dantooine, Alderaan, Yavin Prime, Yavin IV, Hoth, Dagobah and Bespin.
This is not to mention the prequels: Naboo, Mustafar, Coruscant, Genonosis, Felucia, etc. And then the EU? Nar Shaddaa, Rhen Varr, Korriban, Ruusan; the number of planets are only limited by the author's imagination and Lucas's approval. To say the Disney FanFic underutilize planets and locations is a criminally massive understatement. As for their """""""""""""""""""imagination""""""""""""""""""""...
Look, the rocks that the protagonist used for his fire pit are actually the Philosopher's Stone that also allows people to psychically propel ships at light speed without fuel.
@@aquapendulum Disney Star Wars: B-But Rey is from Jakku! Which is pretty much indistinguishable from Tatooine from what we showed of it, but still!!! And it's still somehow considered more remote than Tatooine despite being in the Inner Rim. Somehow.
Fringy's rant makes me think that Pandora itself could be interesting as a hostile over-mind antagonist. Not sure how, but an incomprehensible, semi-conscious alien entity which controls nature could be an interesting way to do a man v nature plot.
Well, the magic trees are already all connected together like one huge brain. And the Na'vi link their heads to them to pray to Eywa all the time; wouldn't be a stretch to think that the tree-brain is manipulating their minds like they do with their tamed creatures.
There's that old greentext from the human side in avatar about how the Navi as a species aren't going anywhere and in 1 million years they'll still be in the same place as they are now while humanity has conquered the starts. They really need one of the "villains" to say it word for word at least once
"Spare us your pity, alien. You gush about your connection with nature, your primal wisdom, but what has it brought you? Where are you marvels of engineering? Your voyages of discovery? Your great insight into the nature of the universe? Even at our basest, when we dressed as you do, dwelt as you do, hunted as you do, we did more than just survive. We built wonders. We made journeys. We forged epics. You have not. You speak so proudly of the plugs dangling from your skulls, little realizing that they are but strings and you puppets. What little you have accomplished you attribute to the wisdom of your goddess, who is nothing but the voices of your dead echoing for all eternity. She moors you to the past, serving as a leash that keeps you as little better than apes, sad parodies of civilization that lack that special spark to become something more. We have come to your world in search of resources. Whether your actions drive us back or we take what we want and move on, the ultimate outcome will be the same. We will depart from your wretched planet, leaving you behind. And in a thousand years, you will not have changed from this contact with another world. You will remain in your trees, hunting your prey, communing with your goddess, until your sun burns out and your world dies. And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us." Edit: I did not create this, this was a copy of the green text in question.
It would be interesting to have the movie actually give the argument of both sides. The Na'vi with their natural and symbiotic, but static spiritualism. Contrasted with the Humans and their cold and destructive, but dynamic materialism. Guenon's Reign of quantity being played out in cinematic form. The problem is James Cameron doesn't seem to actually care about the philosophy behind the themes of his movies.
8:02 Remember Avatar where they play up this big red dragon thing that roams the sky's and is supposed to be terror for the Na'Vi. Remember how Jake just plugged in his USB and it became subservient a day later. Just smash cut after he lands on top to somewhere else.
Fringy talking about Pandora and how the Navi interact with animals really reinforces the failed potential of Pandora. Because I won’t lie; superficially I like the world. But it’s mechanics suck. Contrast it to Princess Mononoke which had a much more nuanced take of nature. The spirits weren’t fully good; they were those who were bad and those who wanted to protect their homes. It baffles me how Cameron said he was heavily inspired by Mononoke and yet he didn’t take away the one thing that film did very well; a balanced take of environmentalism and showcasing that it is much more than simple good vs evil. But that would take effort and work to make entertaining.
Seriously? You bring up Mononoke? Fucking weebs man💀 no one cares about that film. There’s a reason Avatar 1 and now 2 made over a 2 billion dollars. Clearly the world in Mononoke isn’t as appealing.
That’s right. It’s more grey in Princess Mononoke with both sides: humans are reliant on destroying their forest to harvest the resources, but there’s a emotional motivation, helping out the outcast individuals during Feudal Japan and the forest gods want to protect their foundation but resort to barbaric actions with no room to mediate.
It still blows my mind that of all the planets the humans found, they decided to colonize an already populated planetoid where they can't even breathe the air.
I just imagine MauLer was listening to this while he was jogging out in the Welshian Wilds and he just had to jump in to explain why he wanted to see blue cat child murder on screen.
To be fair didn’t Quaritch’s main men just respawn inexplicably throughout the movie? Pretty sure Quaritch realized early on that spawn camping was a bridge to far for Jake and so they’ll be back and ready to go for the next movie. Lol this is all assuming I’m not crazy and three of the six soldiers were definitely killed in the first skirmish between Quaritch and Sully.
mauler kind of reminds me of colossal is crazy in this clip, might be the mic quality or the fact that he sounds like he's in a hurry, but also the fact that he starts off immediately by saying he wants a little girl dead. i can totally imagine colossal saying that shit lol. good stuff
One of the things that annoyed me was the bird scene (Can't be asked to google the actual name right now.) Quaritch just walks up to the first one there and starts fighting it. The whole thing was that there was suppose to be a bond and the bird chooses you. They could have at least had him attempt to fight the first one before the kid told him about it and doing it right. Overall I didn't mind the film. These guys are probably going to thrash it and I'll agree with most of what they say but still. These movies are pretty generic but they haven't broken any universes yet. We'll have to wait til Avatar 3 where we find out that Grace was getting booty wrestled by Quaritch and that the human kid and the half Navi are actually half siblings. Then in part 4 we find out that Quaritch is also Jake's father and the ultimate truth behind these movies is that Quaritch fucks.
James Cameron presents _Captain Planet in Space._ They will keep bringing big, bad humanity back as the one-dimensional villains over and over. Because this franchise isn’t about building an interesting world to explore: it’s about pushing politics and environmentalism. Hard pass.
Well this is going to be good it's always a blast when MauLer's rants, also how many Avatar movies are we getting? Because I've only seen the first one years ago and I'm not interested in seeing this one.
Did they ever do anything with the psychic remote connection tech the humans have? Since the avatar bodies work in the funky flying mountains, the remote connection thing has the be wierdo magic too.
The thing is, the story could still show Quartich being hesitant to kill the daughters during that last sequence. We have seen Quaritch not want to kill the Tsahik at the sea village and maybe he wont want to kill the girls because of his slow bond with his own son (we know that while Quaritch hates Sully cause he sees him as a traitor, we know he at least respects him as a warrior so there is a link there) the problem is the movie doesnt show Quaritch thinking about any of this. As Sully and Neytiri are killing his guys he just looks panicked and scared. Also, WHERE DID ALL THE OTHER NA'VI GO SULLY COULD HAVE USED THEM DURING THAT WHOLE LAST FAMILY SEQUENCE
The existence of Quaritchs Son is questionable to beginn with. I found a Video explaining that the reason why Spider Miles (Man) was on Pandora is because he was to young for the Cryo sleep back home. Then how the fuck did he got on Pandora? Or do you wanna tell me Quaritch bing banged some random woman, that we never heard of previously to breed a child that we also never heard of previously. There's a reason why both Avatar Movies make me root for the Humans.
Mauler out in public talking about killing little girls and "I'm definitely gonna do it. Do not test my resolve" Jfc It reminds me of that scene in The Dictator when Aladeen and his science guy are talking about their new Porsche, back brace, and interest in seeing fireworks over the statue of liberty and empire state building, but all the other passengers on the helicopter tour hear is "9 eleven? Yes yes 9 eleven but 2012. Boom boom boom. Empire state building boom? Statue of liberty ah yes." And then when Aladeen shows his back brace, he rips open his jumpsuit to reveal it and it looks like a bomb vest. He then practices his English by counting "FIVE FOUR THREE TWO ONE!" And the passenger lady screams, scene cuts to Aladeen at a police station getting mugshots.
I like how Avatar has such a solid, layed out world building and at points even character, that you can just point at an item/scene in the movie and look angry at Cameron who just walks in circles (and for Quaritsch and at times Sully walks backwards) "My man, the money has gotten you something. Do something with it!"
I didn't see Avatar 2. Is it true that the movie is really just doing a "humans are bad" thing again? I was hoping the story would have moved beyond that. Update: So I just got back from watching the movie and I have to argue against some of the points made here. For one Neytiri didn't consider Spider her son, it was made clear at the beginning of the movie that she saw the human boy as an outsider that should keep away from her people. It should also be noted, as the movie makes it visually apparent from her facial expression, that Neytiri is twisted with rage in the final act after her own son died, spider even sees this and tries to avoid her sight out of fear. I don't see why it wouldn't make any sense for Quaritch to feel sympathy for Spider. Sure he is a clone of his original self with an alien body, but he is very much himself mentally. It is only natural that he would have some sentiment for a kid he remembers having. We see hints of Quaritch's sympathy at a handful of points, such as when Spider begs the colonel to spare the Na'vi tribe they were at some point interrogating, so the colonel orders the burning of the shelters instead. They had a conversation during an early scene where Quaritch clarifies to spider that he is not his father and has no relation. It is clear that Quaritch doesn't truly feel this way since he still retains the memories of the original colonel. I would argue that what the old man says during the one on one interrogation was supposed to mentally disarm Spider, as he was going for the "personal maneuver" of getting information.
I agee with you. But even if she is so rageful. Why would she expect that to work and she is shown as absolutely willing to go through with it. Why isn't this mentioned by her kids, specially the daughter who is such good friends with him. That should bother her, at least a little bit.
@@countlazuli8753 Exactly. And as I said, even if she'd have known somehow, how would she think that either Jake or her kids would be fine with her threathening or killing Spider. I feel like they'd be very much against it and try to stop her. Also I feel like it's a really bad thing for her character. She's been around him for a long time and even if she thinks he's "not one of them", her kids have been playing with him since they were young. I feel like she'd at least have some positive feelings towards him stopping her from doing this. Even then, I feel like I wouldn't be 100% sure he'd care about Spider even with the short time they spend together. He's done really horrible stuff to others and basically risks everything to get to Jake. I'm not 100% convinced Spider would get between that. But I'm willing to believe he has some sort of feelings for the kid being a clone of the Colonels mind. Also it shouldn't have come this far anyway, I do agree with Mauler that the daughter(s) should have been killed or at least badly hurt before that while Jake took his time taking out everyone while the Colonel was just watching it happen.
Depends on the situation, i have never needed to choose between my lovers life and a buss full of children, movies let us explore these situations and in this particular movie it is disapointing how shallow everything was
TRIGGER WARNING The story was quite simple, not really creative, completely out of nowhere, and the themes surely were the usual cringe. Stuff like the importance of family, spiritual connection to nature, protecting one's home, the parallels between conquering by force and convincing with love, even some religious aspects were in, as well as the "don't immediately judge a foreign person" message... Yet all these basic tropes, while touching on multiple important core values from both sides of the political spectrum, actually felt like they were done in a nice non-forceful manner, and mixed with nice visuals, I actually found myself liking that side of the movie a lot. I then felt much more forgiving to the movie for lacking in the aspects which it clearly decided to focus on way less. Unlike Star Wars or GoT for example, I don't think this specific style of writing was completely new or contradictory to the existing Avatar world and it's entire idea. It was only specific scenes or arguably minor concepts that kinda felt out of place, but some of the dumb shit that happened in the movie felt rather cute than infuriating to me. Stuff like the occasionally cringy dialogue, the scene where guy's about to shoot and his gun gets pulled completely to the side before he's able to simply pull the trigger, the whole edgy trope with the big fish saving the day at the last moment and I could obviously go on for a long time here... The Na'vi speaking English the entire movie disturbed me, I would actually prefer them speaking Na'vi with subtitles as it could only ever add to the epic portayal of Pandora while improving on realism as well. For all of the movie's obvious flaws, which hurt the rational part of the brain, although not nearly as bad as in case of some other cinematic releases, I'll allow up to a 7/10. Despite the outrage which seems to be focusing on less relevant parts of the film, I think it was worth the watch.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 “bad” hm interesting that it’s so well received. So it has acclaim and success. Again why they and your dumbass are contrarians. It’s sad af.
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 Star Wars: The Force Awakens was well received, Doctor Strange 2 was well received, the two Knives Out movies are well received. A movie being being well received doesn't mean it's good. And what about good movie that weren't well received, like Blade Runner, Alien 3, and The Thing? So, if you point out that a bad movie is bad you're a contrarian? And you do know they liked Top Gun: Maverick and Spider-Man: No Way Home, right?
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 wow you just pointed out 2 good movies… lol. Also their success is for good reason. Again you’re projecting your garbage taste. Just because you think they’re bad doesn’t mean they are. But yea Avatar 2 doesn’t have the nostalgia level of Star Wars, it got big off its expression, not nostalgia for a new trilogy. Those films were exceptions, there’s always films or even albums that at first people don’t get and then it grows on people. Terrible point
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 wow they liked 2 films everyone loves… wow. Just ignore all the other films everyone likes that they don’t like. There’s a lot. The Batman for example.
"I wanted to explain why I wanted to see a little girl get killed"
-MauLer 2022
he says whilst out in public.
Random woman getting groceries: 😟
based
For the second time.
that sounds, so wrong
I think upset MauLer with a bad mic is my favorite iteration.
Bad Mic Good
His strongest form
I mean, of course it is. Bad mic angry Mauler clearly talking about something without much prep was what made his best content. The more time an effort he puts in, the worse it gets.
@@mrbubbles6468 Hard disagree.
Him also sounding like he'd been running to get there to give this rant was amazing.
Outside cell phone MauLer is an intimidating entity.
You can summon him by collecting pieces of paper in the woods
I remember that little story he once told about being outside at night, walking the street alone, wearing a hoodie, and that he crossed the street just so he wouldn't have to confront an old lady and make her feel scared.
Maybe Outside Mauler is just inherently intimidating.
what's your pfp, looks badass
@@afelias Well, he is an over 6ft tall rugby player-like Welshman by the looks of his old streams, so no wonder.
@@thekingmansplainer6813 Magilou Mayvin from Tales of Berseria.
Mauler sounds more Welsh than usual in this clip. Interesting to hear what the Longman sounds like in his natural habitat
I was just about to say he sounds aggressively more Welsh in this clip I assume due to him being out of his element and whatever his recording space is.
Mauler should embrace his welshness and become the new Top Gear guy
I don't know why, but for some reason the low quality of Mauler's mic coupled with his quickened, almost exhausted tone makes it so much funnier
I mean of course it does. This is like his old stuff. Which is way funnier any of the stuff he puts so much effort into. Far more honest feeling as well.
@@mrbubbles6468 why are you going around this comment section remarking about how you dislike his new content
He went full SootHouse, man, always go full SootHouse
It's really funny picturing a man in a gas mask with red eyes swinging his arms around in a mall as he rants about Avatar 2.
I imagine MauLer IRL is the size of the Sirenhead SCP-like monster, but the phone is regular size and he pinches it between his fingers.
Yes.
1.2billion %
Siren Head is not an SCP.
And that makes him even more angy!
Mauler, touching grass? *Inconceivable*
Touching grass, in the negative dimension.
This is surreal, MauLer exists in the real world?
the outside world - still hidden from those of us not long enough to survive its confines
He’s broken free of containment!
@@sparkytepig 30 dead, the long is still at large
Ever have a really long day? That's MauLer set free
How come I've never seen him? Imagine the hunt...
Avatar 2: Somehow the humans returned because all the important resources for humanity are concentrated on planet Pandora. I can't wait to see what planet we will explore next in Avatar 3.
It's funny how all this time has passed and apparently they haven't found planets with the resources they want, but without the opposing sentient species.
@@afelias I would actually say that an important resource having a biological origin would rule out the option of harvesting it from other planets. Then the settings would have a similar conflict to Dune - the spice on Arrakis is produced by larval sandworms which is a species native only to planet Arrakis. That part is fine, Pandora is Arrakis but a lot more water. Where Avatar tripped up is that that uber important resource is - by some insane coincidence - native to the same planet where another uber important resource can also be exclusively found on. So now instead of having a Dune-like setting, Avatar has created a Star Wars problem where everything inevitably connects back to Tatooine (except for the show Andor, I'm shocked to find nothing in that show that connects back to Tatooine). It stretches suspension of disbelief and makes the universe feels small and under-explored. Avatar had it much worse than Star Wars because Avatar after 2 movies has acknowledged the existence of at most... 3 planets, that's Earth, Pandora and the blue giant that Pandora orbits around. Star Wars did badly, but at least after 2 movies has acknowledged the existence of 8 planets: Tatooine, Dantooine, Alderaan, Yavin Prime, Yavin IV, Hoth, Dagobah and Bespin.
This is not to mention the prequels: Naboo, Mustafar, Coruscant, Genonosis, Felucia, etc.
And then the EU? Nar Shaddaa, Rhen Varr, Korriban, Ruusan; the number of planets are only limited by the author's imagination and Lucas's approval.
To say the Disney FanFic underutilize planets and locations is a criminally massive understatement. As for their """""""""""""""""""imagination""""""""""""""""""""...
Look, the rocks that the protagonist used for his fire pit are actually the Philosopher's Stone that also allows people to psychically propel ships at light speed without fuel.
@@aquapendulum Disney Star Wars: B-But Rey is from Jakku! Which is pretty much indistinguishable from Tatooine from what we showed of it, but still!!!
And it's still somehow considered more remote than Tatooine despite being in the Inner Rim. Somehow.
Fringy's rant makes me think that Pandora itself could be interesting as a hostile over-mind antagonist. Not sure how, but an incomprehensible, semi-conscious alien entity which controls nature could be an interesting way to do a man v nature plot.
Maybe if the planet was a life form just like the main race of the movie, like Bionicle or Transformers
Well, the magic trees are already all connected together like one huge brain. And the Na'vi link their heads to them to pray to Eywa all the time; wouldn't be a stretch to think that the tree-brain is manipulating their minds like they do with their tamed creatures.
Isn’t that kinda a thing in the Dune franchise? I only saw the first movie but I think I’ve heard later in the books stuff like that happens
Metroid Prime kind of did this with Dark Samus being an avatar of the Phaaze spore things. Infecting creatures and worlds to spread the Corruption
Imagine Mauler was on the bus or an elevator when he had this convo. Imagine the reactions of other people who only heard his side.
"Oh, how rude!"
There's that old greentext from the human side in avatar about how the Navi as a species aren't going anywhere and in 1 million years they'll still be in the same place as they are now while humanity has conquered the starts.
They really need one of the "villains" to say it word for word at least once
"Spare us your pity, alien. You gush about your connection with nature, your primal wisdom, but what has it brought you? Where are you marvels of engineering? Your voyages of discovery? Your great insight into the nature of the universe? Even at our basest, when we dressed as you do, dwelt as you do, hunted as you do, we did more than just survive. We built wonders. We made journeys. We forged epics. You have not. You speak so proudly of the plugs dangling from your skulls, little realizing that they are but strings and you puppets. What little you have accomplished you attribute to the wisdom of your goddess, who is nothing but the voices of your dead echoing for all eternity. She moors you to the past, serving as a leash that keeps you as little better than apes, sad parodies of civilization that lack that special spark to become something more. We have come to your world in search of resources. Whether your actions drive us back or we take what we want and move on, the ultimate outcome will be the same. We will depart from your wretched planet, leaving you behind. And in a thousand years, you will not have changed from this contact with another world. You will remain in your trees, hunting your prey, communing with your goddess, until your sun burns out and your world dies. And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us."
Edit: I did not create this, this was a copy of the green text in question.
@@samlund8543 damn, that was powerful. Could you please write the next one?
@@samlund8543 damn, this was some quality work. Do you write professionally?
It would be interesting to have the movie actually give the argument of both sides. The Na'vi with their natural and symbiotic, but static spiritualism. Contrasted with the Humans and their cold and destructive, but dynamic materialism. Guenon's Reign of quantity being played out in cinematic form. The problem is James Cameron doesn't seem to actually care about the philosophy behind the themes of his movies.
@@leriava it's a copypasta
"I'm in the outside world"
Based on his voice, it confirms that he definitely doesn't put any filters or alterations to his voice 😆
Yeah? Did you think he did?
@@HerohammerStudios People used to say that, maybe they still do.
If Mauler must speak on it then you know it’s going to be good.
Avatar 2 grew up in a place surrounded by water.
MauLer is borrowing Drinker's mic for this rant 😆
8:02 Remember Avatar where they play up this big red dragon thing that roams the sky's and is supposed to be terror for the Na'Vi. Remember how Jake just plugged in his USB and it became subservient a day later. Just smash cut after he lands on top to somewhere else.
Fringy talking about Pandora and how the Navi interact with animals really reinforces the failed potential of Pandora. Because I won’t lie; superficially I like the world. But it’s mechanics suck. Contrast it to Princess Mononoke which had a much more nuanced take of nature. The spirits weren’t fully good; they were those who were bad and those who wanted to protect their homes. It baffles me how Cameron said he was heavily inspired by Mononoke and yet he didn’t take away the one thing that film did very well; a balanced take of environmentalism and showcasing that it is much more than simple good vs evil. But that would take effort and work to make entertaining.
Seriously? You bring up Mononoke? Fucking weebs man💀 no one cares about that film. There’s a reason Avatar 1 and now 2 made over a 2 billion dollars. Clearly the world in Mononoke isn’t as appealing.
That’s right. It’s more grey in Princess Mononoke with both sides: humans are reliant on destroying their forest to harvest the resources, but there’s a emotional motivation, helping out the outcast individuals during Feudal Japan and the forest gods want to protect their foundation but resort to barbaric actions with no room to mediate.
Mauler is probably the only person who I’m happy to hear provide commentary while he’s on a cell phone walking outside
It still blows my mind that of all the planets the humans found, they decided to colonize an already populated planetoid where they can't even breathe the air.
To be fair, that is the ONE part that IS properly explained. Still kinda dumb, but it's explained.
Also where the planet itself seems to hate them. 😅
Mauler in WW2 be like:
I've accidentally made my way into a Birds Elope With the Sun video
An angry Longman is still an articulate Longman.
I wanted the standoff to become a comedy where Jake grabs the third kid and puts a knife to her throat as a hostage too. No sense, just comedy.
I always wondered if there was another moon around the gas giant that also has the unobtainablium.
I just imagine MauLer was listening to this while he was jogging out in the Welshian Wilds and he just had to jump in to explain why he wanted to see blue cat child murder on screen.
MauLer in the wild is a wonderful thing.
To be fair didn’t Quaritch’s main men just respawn inexplicably throughout the movie? Pretty sure Quaritch realized early on that spawn camping was a bridge to far for Jake and so they’ll be back and ready to go for the next movie.
Lol this is all assuming I’m not crazy and three of the six soldiers were definitely killed in the first skirmish between Quaritch and Sully.
Hi Rag'''s
First recorded instance of the Longman hating the long.
Man i really really like Fringy.
Bad Mic Mauler - Best Mauler
"The landing gear could have won the war!" what a sentence xD
mauler kind of reminds me of colossal is crazy in this clip, might be the mic quality or the fact that he sounds like he's in a hurry, but also the fact that he starts off immediately by saying he wants a little girl dead. i can totally imagine colossal saying that shit lol. good stuff
One of the things that annoyed me was the bird scene (Can't be asked to google the actual name right now.) Quaritch just walks up to the first one there and starts fighting it. The whole thing was that there was suppose to be a bond and the bird chooses you. They could have at least had him attempt to fight the first one before the kid told him about it and doing it right.
Overall I didn't mind the film. These guys are probably going to thrash it and I'll agree with most of what they say but still. These movies are pretty generic but they haven't broken any universes yet. We'll have to wait til Avatar 3 where we find out that Grace was getting booty wrestled by Quaritch and that the human kid and the half Navi are actually half siblings. Then in part 4 we find out that Quaritch is also Jake's father and the ultimate truth behind these movies is that Quaritch fucks.
I dunno dude, the worldbuilding was pretty much fucked since the first film, and this movie doubles/triples down on that.
I was literally thinking the same thing. I was so confused why the older one wasn't dome-capped immediately after the explosion.
haha sounds like a good forge, got to check it out
Prepare for an painful Doomer take
@@spartansquid5931 Yeah, it turns into a Top Gun: Maverick debate at one point.
@@spartansquid5931 You mean every Doomer take
@@Pompadour_Pug tbf his name is doomer
MauLer can exist in our reality? That's terrifying.
How many cattle did they sacrifice for letting Mauler out so he could watch Avatar 2?
"Can't put that in avatar 2, that would be fucking interesting" - Rags's
James Cameron presents _Captain Planet in Space._ They will keep bringing big, bad humanity back as the one-dimensional villains over and over. Because this franchise isn’t about building an interesting world to explore: it’s about pushing politics and environmentalism.
Hard pass.
Well this is going to be good it's always a blast when MauLer's rants, also how many Avatar movies are we getting? Because I've only seen the first one years ago and I'm not interested in seeing this one.
3 more.
I can agree, major chip hazard is by far the best thing about the first movie
Did they ever do anything with the psychic remote connection tech the humans have? Since the avatar bodies work in the funky flying mountains, the remote connection thing has the be wierdo magic too.
I liked this movie for its raw spectacle and effects but basically nothing else. Very much your typical modern blockbuster.
Whats so bad about an typical blockbuster , all hating for simple story. Simple isnt always bad
@@simonnitsche1379 we've had over a decade of simple. Change the track.
@@simonnitsche1379 There is a difference between simple and dumb.
MauLer in the waking world, still at long.
I saw the movie after hearing this rant and all I could think about was waiting for the murder of a little girl.
Gonna be a good Unbridled Apocalypse.
I missed out when I missed this
MauLer was calling from his home dimension. He was on his way to have tea with Nyarlethotep and Yog Sothoth.
I would refer to the low quality mic being paired with this rant as “Punished Mauler”
Bro MauLer was so successful they made him into a real thing in the real world
"No."
-Bilbo Baggins
The way they depict humans is unsatisfying we see series like Halo humans fighting a force incredibly powerful to survive
MauLer climbs Welsh mountains while ranting about murdering a child in a movie.
Sounds like your average Tom Scott video.
Woah, MauLer sounds very similar to Az.
Mauler not using his mauler voice, but his natural Top Gear voice is very good rat.
Linus from Andor vibes XD
Someone please make a fnaf edit with outside world mauler’s voice on the phone
The thing is, the story could still show Quartich being hesitant to kill the daughters during that last sequence. We have seen Quaritch not want to kill the Tsahik at the sea village and maybe he wont want to kill the girls because of his slow bond with his own son (we know that while Quaritch hates Sully cause he sees him as a traitor, we know he at least respects him as a warrior so there is a link there) the problem is the movie doesnt show Quaritch thinking about any of this. As Sully and Neytiri are killing his guys he just looks panicked and scared.
Also, WHERE DID ALL THE OTHER NA'VI GO SULLY COULD HAVE USED THEM DURING THAT WHOLE LAST FAMILY SEQUENCE
A rare sighting of improv, first impression, no time to make a script and gather my thoughts version of Mauler.
The existence of Quaritchs Son is questionable to beginn with. I found a Video explaining that the reason why Spider Miles (Man) was on Pandora is because he was to young for the Cryo sleep back home. Then how the fuck did he got on Pandora? Or do you wanna tell me Quaritch bing banged some random woman, that we never heard of previously to breed a child that we also never heard of previously.
There's a reason why both Avatar Movies make me root for the Humans.
no you ruined my imagination of maulser.
*Avatar 2: Water Boogaloo*
He's watched a lot of Archer
Mauler out in public talking about killing little girls and "I'm definitely gonna do it. Do not test my resolve"
Jfc
It reminds me of that scene in The Dictator when Aladeen and his science guy are talking about their new Porsche, back brace, and interest in seeing fireworks over the statue of liberty and empire state building, but all the other passengers on the helicopter tour hear is "9 eleven? Yes yes 9 eleven but 2012. Boom boom boom. Empire state building boom? Statue of liberty ah yes." And then when Aladeen shows his back brace, he rips open his jumpsuit to reveal it and it looks like a bomb vest. He then practices his English by counting "FIVE FOUR THREE TWO ONE!" And the passenger lady screams, scene cuts to Aladeen at a police station getting mugshots.
Okay I loved the film but yeah cant lie it's so true it is stupid alot of the time haha
Man Miles and Spider was a failed plot line. That was the only one I was interested in this entire slog of a movieb
I like how Avatar has such a solid, layed out world building and at points even character, that you can just point at an item/scene in the movie and look angry at Cameron who just walks in circles (and for Quaritsch and at times Sully walks backwards)
"My man, the money has gotten you something. Do something with it!"
Because where is the more primitive animal like Navi because on Earth because of evolution we get to interact with our ancient ancestors in apes
So im guessing they loved it? lol
Avatar 2 would’ve worked if it was released in 2010
I didn't see Avatar 2. Is it true that the movie is really just doing a "humans are bad" thing again? I was hoping the story would have moved beyond that.
Update: So I just got back from watching the movie and I have to argue against some of the points made here. For one Neytiri didn't consider Spider her son, it was made clear at the beginning of the movie that she saw the human boy as an outsider that should keep away from her people. It should also be noted, as the movie makes it visually apparent from her facial expression, that Neytiri is twisted with rage in the final act after her own son died, spider even sees this and tries to avoid her sight out of fear.
I don't see why it wouldn't make any sense for Quaritch to feel sympathy for Spider. Sure he is a clone of his original self with an alien body, but he is very much himself mentally. It is only natural that he would have some sentiment for a kid he remembers having. We see hints of Quaritch's sympathy at a handful of points, such as when Spider begs the colonel to spare the Na'vi tribe they were at some point interrogating, so the colonel orders the burning of the shelters instead. They had a conversation during an early scene where Quaritch clarifies to spider that he is not his father and has no relation. It is clear that Quaritch doesn't truly feel this way since he still retains the memories of the original colonel. I would argue that what the old man says during the one on one interrogation was supposed to mentally disarm Spider, as he was going for the "personal maneuver" of getting information.
I agee with you. But even if she is so rageful. Why would she expect that to work and she is shown as absolutely willing to go through with it. Why isn't this mentioned by her kids, specially the daughter who is such good friends with him. That should bother her, at least a little bit.
@@lexievv THAT is a fair point. What made her think that the Colonel cared about Spider? We as the audience knew why, but did she?
@@countlazuli8753 Exactly. And as I said, even if she'd have known somehow, how would she think that either Jake or her kids would be fine with her threathening or killing Spider. I feel like they'd be very much against it and try to stop her.
Also I feel like it's a really bad thing for her character. She's been around him for a long time and even if she thinks he's "not one of them", her kids have been playing with him since they were young. I feel like she'd at least have some positive feelings towards him stopping her from doing this.
Even then, I feel like I wouldn't be 100% sure he'd care about Spider even with the short time they spend together. He's done really horrible stuff to others and basically risks everything to get to Jake. I'm not 100% convinced Spider would get between that. But I'm willing to believe he has some sort of feelings for the kid being a clone of the Colonels mind.
Also it shouldn't have come this far anyway, I do agree with Mauler that the daughter(s) should have been killed or at least badly hurt before that while Jake took his time taking out everyone while the Colonel was just watching it happen.
6:47 isn’t everything in fiction more shallow than reality?
Depends on the situation, i have never needed to choose between my lovers life and a buss full of children, movies let us explore these situations and in this particular movie it is disapointing how shallow everything was
That’s interesting. It just seems like they have a personal problem with this point but maybe I’m wrong.
TRIGGER WARNING
The story was quite simple, not really creative, completely out of nowhere, and the themes surely were the usual cringe. Stuff like the importance of family, spiritual connection to nature, protecting one's home, the parallels between conquering by force and convincing with love, even some religious aspects were in, as well as the "don't immediately judge a foreign person" message... Yet all these basic tropes, while touching on multiple important core values from both sides of the political spectrum, actually felt like they were done in a nice non-forceful manner, and mixed with nice visuals, I actually found myself liking that side of the movie a lot. I then felt much more forgiving to the movie for lacking in the aspects which it clearly decided to focus on way less. Unlike Star Wars or GoT for example, I don't think this specific style of writing was completely new or contradictory to the existing Avatar world and it's entire idea. It was only specific scenes or arguably minor concepts that kinda felt out of place, but some of the dumb shit that happened in the movie felt rather cute than infuriating to me. Stuff like the occasionally cringy dialogue, the scene where guy's about to shoot and his gun gets pulled completely to the side before he's able to simply pull the trigger, the whole edgy trope with the big fish saving the day at the last moment and I could obviously go on for a long time here... The Na'vi speaking English the entire movie disturbed me, I would actually prefer them speaking Na'vi with subtitles as it could only ever add to the epic portayal of Pandora while improving on realism as well. For all of the movie's obvious flaws, which hurt the rational part of the brain, although not nearly as bad as in case of some other cinematic releases, I'll allow up to a 7/10. Despite the outrage which seems to be focusing on less relevant parts of the film, I think it was worth the watch.
Trigger warning for what?
This is incredibly bad criticisms. The entire discussion is basically "Avatar should be about what I want it to be about, therefore it's bad."
Wow what do you know. The contrarian EFAP dopes don’t like another beloved successful film. Shocker🤣
Yeah, how weird that they don't like another bad blockbuster movie.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 “bad” hm interesting that it’s so well received. So it has acclaim and success. Again why they and your dumbass are contrarians. It’s sad af.
@@mrmxyzptlk8906 Star Wars: The Force Awakens was well received, Doctor Strange 2 was well received, the two Knives Out movies are well received. A movie being being well received doesn't mean it's good. And what about good movie that weren't well received, like Blade Runner, Alien 3, and The Thing?
So, if you point out that a bad movie is bad you're a contrarian? And you do know they liked Top Gun: Maverick and Spider-Man: No Way Home, right?
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 wow you just pointed out 2 good movies… lol. Also their success is for good reason. Again you’re projecting your garbage taste. Just because you think they’re bad doesn’t mean they are. But yea Avatar 2 doesn’t have the nostalgia level of Star Wars, it got big off its expression, not nostalgia for a new trilogy.
Those films were exceptions, there’s always films or even albums that at first people don’t get and then it grows on people. Terrible point
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 wow they liked 2 films everyone loves… wow. Just ignore all the other films everyone likes that they don’t like. There’s a lot. The Batman for example.