Steve Reviews: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- After the festering stain that was the Disney remake of Pinocchio, I'm happy to say that Guillermo del Toro's take on the fairytale offers a much needed breath of fresh air.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:30 - Animation & Music
5:42 - Story (Spoiler Free)
9:40 - Spoiler Discussion
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I love that the fairies look like biblical angels. I hardly ever see those types of designs.
That’s exactly the same thing I said when I was watching it!
I was thinking that too!
That’s literally what I said when she first made her introduction. And it makes sense since the story does touch some biblical topics and references
I think that's the best partabout the design
Agreed! Very cool designs. ^^
It wasn’t just convenient that Sebastian wished him back to life. Sebastian just spent the whole movie and his whole life concerned with only himself. Using his wish for somebody else was profound.
I agree. Also, it's not convenient if its predestined. Anyone with foresight could tell that the wish was meant for Pinocchio from the start. "You give what you put in.." both Pinocchio and Sebastian made sacrafices to become better people and got the best outcomes for it.
I think it also fits with his initial view of life not being fair. At the begining of the film the unfairness is solely about how he has been trying to become a publicised writer for years but with no success despite how talented he believes himself to be but by the end he see's the unfairness of life for Pinocchio.
Pinocchio wasn't wanted when brought into the world and at every turn he was being mocked or manipulated for simply being who he is and in the end he died trying to protect Geppetto. It put into perspective for Sebastian that his grumblings about life not being fair were barely an issue in comparison to others because he at least still got to live his life how he wanted meanwhile Pinocchio was dealt a bad hand from the start, barely got any choice in what he wanted to do and in the end died for the one person he cared about most despite his short time with them. He was just a child thrown into a horrible situation.
I liked it also because Sebastian also helped to mold him, like a second father. In this version he has three protectors. Geppetto, Sebastian and the monkey whose name I could not even begin to spell lol
@@caldw615 I just found this UA-cam channel and I'm already beginning to think this guy isn't really listening to these films too intently. It was pretty on the nose that Sebastian was sacrificing his one wish for fame and fortune, something he always wanted, for someone else. That wish was his only motivation for caring about teaching Pinocchio to be a good person. He himself was manipulative to Pinocchio for his own gain but, by the end, was able to turn it around where everyone else who manipulated the puppet died in gruesome fashion.
I actually had the opposite thought and thought of Sebastian’s last wish as an amazing Chekhov gun, like at the end you expect them all to survive and he uses the wish to wish for a happy life but I just remembered when Pinocchio died, “wait doesn’t Sebastian have a wish from the fai-OHHHHHH”
Amazed to realise Sebastian’s, “Life is such hideous pain!” Becomes, “Life is such a wonderful gift,” by the end.
I feel like Pinocchio lying is a little more acceptable in this version because the film takes time to show the downsides of lying, and the dangers of telling the truth, a lot more before we ever get to the terrible dogfish. When Pinocchio says, "his nose didn't grow," when a certain someone called him a burden was heartbreaking. It also helps that the lies he tells to get his nose to grow are mostly him telling how much he loves his new family after they've all been brought together.
I actually found the "his nose didn't grow" bit pretty funny, but I found the part after it, where Sebastian doesn't belittle Pinocchio about it, and says that Geppetto's just going through some issues that aren't his fault, more emotional. I find it really sweet that Pinocchio doesn't hold it against him after that, and still decides to make money to make it up to him, and he recites those words again when he reunites with Candlewick in the camp.
@@mackielunkey2205 Even when Geppetto was initially unfit to be a father, being an emotionally abusive and unstable alcoholic, he still loved Pinocchio. He was just in pain from losing his son.
@@SaintCharlosAgreed, I love how Geppetto and Jiminy/Sebastian’s personalities are switched in this version compared to the original Disney 1940s version: Geppetto serves as the short-tempered, but ultimately well-meaning person while Sebastian is the patient, loving, though reckless, character.
Take a lesson from this, Disney remake!
It’s rare that a child voice actor isn’t slightly obnoxious but his Pinocchio was charming and likeable the whole way through.
Right??when he first comes on and starts singing was so adorable
Especially when the character he's playing is supposed to be a troublemaker! For a child actor to convey that without coming off as obnoxious himself is pretty remarkable. This kid's got a bright future ahead of him. :)
I disagree, having watched the behind-the-scenes it seems like his voice was pitch shifted up which made it quite grating.
No its not
@@heckssoda588 ...what?
the reason the cricket isn't named Jiminy is because Jiminy Cricket is purely a disney character, in the book he was just called Talking Cricket, so in other versions he's pretty much renamed
Exactly
i believe in the credits they just called him talking cricket
just "Cricket" to be exact.
I still prefer Willakers
I like that they still used J as his middle initial to keep the whole JC (Jesus Christ) idea in place. Clever little workaround.
My Dad died on Friday, I loved him dearly and in my inability to sleep I turned on Netflix and saw this film had been released. It hurt a lot to watch, but it brought an odd comfort in its dealing with death and the cherishing of life, even if it can seem fleeting. While it was no cure all, it did help a bit and I am glad I watched it, even if it was in a lot of tears.
Thanks for sharing this , I have no words , God bless you my friend.
I love that Pinocchio broke the rules of death, because he knew what he was doing, he gave his immortality for his father, Sebastian gave up his fame for Pinocchio and Gappeto got to apologize and make up for mistreating Pinocchio. As for the inclusion of the boot camp scene, it feels sudden and out of place, but it mimics the style of the original books’ more episodic and out-there form of storytelling. All while having a secondary message about war, which Pinocchio asked about earlier on.
wasn't sudden, he was supposedly forced to go there if he hadn't run away for the carnival.
@@metalsadman It served as an alternate itteration of Fun Island. Del Toro wanted to tackle something new, so aside from the obvious scammer threats and child traffic, he used that part of the story to instead emphazise what happens when the educational system becomes a tool of immorality, a way to turn real boys into lifeless weapons.
@Nikki M 🖤 yup, especially towards the end of that section where they put the gas masks on the boys. That was the donkey transformation. I thought it was very clever.
Guillermo said this film was about disobedience (opposite of the original Pinocchio that was about obedience) how disobedience is the first step to develop a soul, thus when Pinocchio broke the rules of death and gave up his immortality he finally became a real boy
I feel like this version of Pinocchio has a lot more heart and care put into it than some of the other shameless re-imaginings that have come out this year. Like there are some scenes where you can just feel the amount of effort the animators put in to make the scene so heartbreaking but in a good way.
Edit: purefoldnz3070 seems to be a little salty about the amount of releases of Pinocchio this year, have a read of their comments for fun if you want 😂😂😂
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I mean, it's been Del Toro's passion project since 2008. He abandoned when he couldn't get funding for the project until Netflix picked it up a few days after he won Best Picture and Best Director for The Shape of Water. Also considering in every interview, he has been adamant that animation is not a genre but a medium to tell stories which again proves how much De Toro loves cinema.
This movie was amazing. One of the best movies I've watched in a long time. And one that's brought me to tears in a long time. Pinocchio's innocence reminds me so much of my son.
Gepetto's hair is constantly moving. They had no reason to do that much extra effort just for an inmersion detail but they went ahead and did it anyway. And that's descriptive of all the resi of the film.
I agree. The other, inferior version that came out this year pales in comparison to this work of art.
I think the war camp was supposed to be a stand in for the donkey amusement park. I liked it, it was a welcome change from the “having fun is bad and you deserve to be hurt” to “innocent children are indoctrinated into evil by those more powerful than them”
in the original, Having fun is drinking beer and smoking while youre still a kid. Its a cautionary tale not a persecution fetish 🙄
"donkey amusement park" because the facists are jackasses
In the CGI remake they just shame kids for liking things like candy and root beer AND THEY GET PUNISHED FOR IT like what’s so wrong about kids wanting candy or root beer? But in this movie they show how Children can be manipulated into something like war and it spreads the message of “Question Authority some people might not be who they seem”
@@jeromealday614 exactly lmao the lesson in the Disney’s first version and the book is actually quite decent
@@jeromealday614
Watch the film.
Pinocchio is naive and thinks war will be fun throughout the film. All of the kids do in this movie. They think it'll be like playing soldiers which fits because instead of turning into donkeys they are being turned into ACTUAL soldiers. The whole section only turns bad when
(SPOILERS):
Candlewick's father tells him to kill Pinocchio.
In which, they soon realize that war is not fun. It's horrible. That's why it was even put in this film in the first place.
I like how the live action disney version and this version are like the exact opposite of each other. With one version you have one of the most corporate, soulless and empty movies ever made and then with this one you have one of the most heartfelt, emotional and beautiful films ever made!
Oh they are. Disney was all show, no tell. This movie told a story. I couldn't help but say to my dad how ironic it was that this movie had more life than the live action with real people in it.
Disney only cares about money and cashing in on our feelings of nostalgia.
This movie is a 15 year long passion project. And that shows for both movies.
And its ironic because both movies make a lot of similar changes to the source material, which Del toro's executing said changes infinitely better
Del Toro’s version has the heart & soul most movies made today are lacking, while Disney’s “live action remake was only made to make money. 💰
This is the first time I’ve EVER seen a character that has the same response to the death of loved ones as me. The way Pinocchio smiles at the gravestones in a way that seems both sad and content was so powerful. I loved you and I miss you but death is natural and I was happy to share some of your life with you.
It honestly is a rare time when you see it that way and I appreciate it as well, death is part of the human life and why we take it for granted or we shy away from talking about it.
Reminds me of one of my favourite quotes - "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened!" 💜
It shows he accepted their deaths a lot more healthily then Geppetto back when Carlo died. He waisted about 20 YEARS of his life grieving his beloved son & never moved on, as if Carlo’s death defined him. 😢
I saw this movie back in December 2022 while going through mourning of the loss of my older cousin. When I tell you that this movie made me express all of the tears and sadness that ive been bottling up. I would say that the movie helped me accept my cousin's passing, and helped me think of the peace that shes now in. She passed from diabetes, kidney failure, and many other things. I miss her so much, and I wish I had more experiences with her, but the ones that I do have, I will always hold dear. She is what made me figure out that I want to be an embalmer.
I think Pinocchio breaking the rules of death makes sense since there weren’t any. Him spending time with death was just the price of keeping immortality and he decided to die for someone else.
Who waaaants to li~~~ve foreverrrrrr?
@@informedconsumer5293 not me for sure
To live the same life forever seems like a punishment to me .
I'm glad to see stop motion is still alive! Stop motion has a feel to it that no other art forms have!
Ikr we may not get as many films in stop motion like glorious cgi, but I wouldn't want it any other way. Like cg once was a stop motion film is a true event when one arrives and bc of less films they don't nearly have as many stinkers.
Stop motion is the epitome of the famous less is more saying.
I agree stop motion is such a wonderful medium. I really wish more studios would do it more.
Bruh what about 2D animation.
Same, i mean i'm not really that big a fan of stop motion stuff but i can definitely appreciate it because like all animation stop motion is an art.
I love stop motion, definitely my favorite form of animation
I actually quite enjoyed the "what do you call it" song I found it hilarious when it was mixed with Gipettos sheer horror by Pinocchio. Also I loved the scene where Pinocchio first wakes up in the attic - I actually got spooked from the way he moved so inhumanly, definitely suffered some uncanny valley symptoms.
Yeah at that attic scene I was like:
“Don’t ever do that again.❤”
I think it added to the whole scene being incredibly chaotic and high energy. He is just so excited mere words isn't enough to express himself.
I loved it so much
It was actually the thing that made me love Pinocchio! that was the moment!
I did too. I finds myself humming it to myself because it’s so catchy.
The war camp scene is a much better version of the pleasure island scene. Even Disney didnt understand that scene in their remaster. The whole point of the original pleasure island wasnt just about "dont have fun kids" like in the remaster. The whole message was "dont do bad things just because the crowd tell you to" and that was the message of the war camp in a way. They learn to think beyond the peer pressure and authoritarian indoctrination and make their own choices. I think it was the perfect way to convey that message within the motives of the new movie
A thing I love about the film is that they actually punish the villains
I know right? The nazi father getting blown up by the bomb and Volpe actually falling to his death with the *SPLAT* sound effect was very visceral but awesome, del Toro never holds back on showing death on screen and I love him for that
@@the_pumpking_ There was no blood, but you can tell from how they animated the impact that he died on impact and is just *completely broken* on the inside.
@@the_pumpking_ ye, when they fell down i was just looking at the stones and thinking "hm, they are kinda close.. they wouldnt, right?" *dead* "nvm then"
I kinda find that a downput of the movie. As with pinocchio it was kinda a statement to kids that not all evil gets punished and those who do evil are still out there, so better be careful kids.
@@the_pumpking_ But I found it a little bittersweet that once his son Candlewick was able to stand up against him, it's implied that he also died in the multiple explosions. He doesnt show up again
Another admirable aspect of Pinocchio's design in this iteration is that Sebastian (which plays the part of his conscience) literally lives inside him, and the entrance (the hole) is located where Pinocchio's heart would be.
In fact, he brings attention to this by saying "he buried me right in his heart".
As wholesome at it was, I still have to ask a question: how did Pinocchio fit a matchstick box inside him?
@@georgeeastwood6930 Very carefully.
I would say the Candlewick arc served a purpose in that it shows that Pinocchio has matured enough to take Sebastian's wisdom to heart when talking about fathers to Candlewick in the dorms. He understands what Sebastian meant and could pass that wisdom to another son struggling with the same issue.
What surprised me most about this film is that it made you think about more than JUST Pinocchio. Like it made you actually feel for Gepetto and the loss of his son and connect to the other characters in the movie. It also slapped you in the face with reality and had a deep message to it about life and death, about how precious life is and about why it's temporary. Making a story that widens your attention span beyond the main character is a very hard thing to do and that is what truly makes this film a masterpiece.
This movie has hit me right in my core. It’s everything Pinocchio should be. The songs rips my soul on two. And dialogue is great. The arc is different in a way that makes so much sense. The pinecones were such a sweet little thing. I don’t know but Pinocchio sounds like pinecone and I don’t know what Pinocchio actually means.
I loved the lessons of learning to love people while they are actually here. And that it wasn’t pinochcio who needed to change, it was Geppetto. Not to replace Carlo and not to turn Pinocchio into him in order to be loved. But he finally loved him for him and he learned to move on with his life and not just grieve.
If was beautiful stop motion animation and everything about it has touched me deeply and this movie will stay with me for a long time.
The word was derived from a regional Italian word for pine nut, so you are pretty much spot on there.
@@Beer_Dad1975 oh that’s good. Haha
This is the ONLY Pinocchio movie that can get away with Pinocchio not turning into a real boy because Geppeto just accepted he is his own self, not a reincarnation of Carlo. Turning into a real boy would kinda throw the ending of the movie out of the window.
@@MrKlausbaudelaire technically the life spirit tells gepetto that in order to save him, pinocchio gave up immortality and “became a real boy” by basically becoming mortal and dying for good so in a sense i’d say they hit every mark with this movie though i do wish they could’ve let us seen more scenes from living inside the whale’s stomach
I reckon Pinocchio is italian for “little pine tree”... i speak spanish ... our word for pinetree is “pino”
Fun fact: this film took an entire decade to make with the production starting all the way back in 2008 and yeah this film is absolutely amazing and is definitely one of the best stop motion films ever right up there with King Kong, the nightmare before Christmas and chicken run
Actually, 2008, not 2009.
@kepala kentang Pretty crazy, right?
gah damn
I just hope they brake even on costs because it earned it
There is a King Kong stop motion movie?
I actually like that the film takes place in 1930s Italy
As a political history nerd I always enjoy those types of things
Especially when it's used as a potential backdrop for a story
As a history nerd I just enjoyed Mussolini being played by Spongebob tbh
@@jose13neo I like-a da puppets...
Omg I just realized it was Tom Kenny lol
its very del Torro considering his previous films Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone in the themes of facism
Im surprised Steven didn’t mention his thoughts on the song “Big Baby Il Duce March”. For those who don’t know, it’s the official title for the song Pinocchio sings to Mussolini about poop & farts! 😂
To me, I very much like the climax. Pinocchio had been taking death lightly and hadn't thought of the far reaching consequences every time he dies and has to wait longer each death in limbo. He breaks the rule for such a price and Sebastien vouching for Pinocchio had likely been Sebastien's own continuing arc. He finally selflessly used his wish for Pinocchio, as Sebastien originally just went for the task for his own reward. It also comes full circle for Gepetto who realized he's grieved for too long on Carlo and had risked Pinocchio's life. I'd say it also comes full circle for the Guardian Fairy too, who is especially more responsible for trifling with life and thinking having Pinocchio around for Gepetto would turn his life around, but at the cost of having a lot of the major characters going through a lot..coz you know plot development.
So yeah wonderful film.
I think the point the military scene was supposed to show the difference between Geppetto and Candlewich's father. Both of them are trying to make their sons into something they're not. While Geppetto learns to accept Pinocchio Candlewick's dad chooses to be selfish. But we technically already got that with Count Volpe and monkey. It even has the same arcs of both characters standing up to their parental figure. Basically, it’s all to reinforce the themes of fatherhood as it is a big part of the movie.
Agreed... And, let's face it: This is Del Toro. It was also an opportunity for him to further explore the antifascist, anti-authoritarian themes and "virtue of disobedience" shtick, which he has already explored in earlier works as well.
But there is still a difference between Volpe and Candlewick's dad.
Candlewick's dad was emotionally abusive while Volpe was both abusive to Spazzatura physically and emotionally. I think the physical part would have overshadowed how wrong both parts of abuse is and shows that you shouldn't stand for either. And there is the obvious difference that Spazzatura is a monkey and you should also be kind to animals.
So there are several things you can take away from both arcs.
Yes, and you should. Kids are annoying and manipulative sociopaths, and you, as father, have to teach them to be better. This movie says the message that you should keep your kids as annoying monsters, like the ones burned down USA with BL , and Chile during the 18 Oct
@@helenetrstrup4817 To be fair, to a degree, Candlewick's dad hovered the threat of potential escalation towards physical abuse/violence over his head, too. And actively encouraged and propagated violence towards third parties.
@@erickmoya1401 Nonsense. Your blatant misanthropic view of humanity is honestly just disgusting. I hope you'll never have children tbh - you'd be a pretty damned abusive parent.
Your children are their own people with their own right to self-determination. It is not your place to force your views and ideas onto them. Should you raise them and teach them how to think for themselves and fend for themselves, yes, and to a degree teach them right from wrong - but not indoctrinate them into your bloody fascistic worldview.
Also, i like the changes they made to the traditional Pinocchio story. Like how Count Volpe and Spazzatura not only play the role of Stromboli (and assistant), but they also play the role of the fox and cat. And the war camp being a replacement for Pleasure Island.
Volpe means fox in italian and count volpes hair sort of resembles fox ears so it's certainly a nod to that. God, I love the character designs. They're so full of fun details.
Not to mention in early draughts of the movie the main villain was going to be a big Burly man with a beard reminiscent of Stromboli but was going to have his original name from the novel which was an Italian word meaning fire eater and Ron Perlman was originally set to voice him however del Toro ended up changing his mind and wanted a different villain and this happened after the model makers already completed his model so the model was reused as a random carnival worker and Ron Perlman was reworked into voicing the government official
Count Volpe also has his nose designed to conflict with Pinnochio's nose when he lies.
Volpe lied the entire film about sending money back to Gepetto for Pinnochio which the nose would be a give away that he is a swindler.
An old Italian term for monkey is "gatto mammone", or "mammon cat".
The rabbit hole goes even deeper when you look up Benito Mussolini. In the movie he says, "I like puppets", and at some point in real history, he lead a Puppet regime in 1943 after meeting Adolf Hitler.
The blue fairies are perfectly well integrated in this version of Pinocchio! I love the addition of the "Death" fairy, instead of just having the blue fairy being the guidance of Pinocchio and how he can change his ways, 100% a really good movie!! Also I love the serious take on this version!
Guillermo Del Toro never disappoints and this movie was stunning! Also, let's not forget Patrick McHale was a part of it too, the man who did Over The Garden Wall.
This has officially surpassed the original Disney’s Pinocchio as my favourite version of the story the world was dark heart wrenching but also wholesome and Ewan McGregor as the Cricket had some cracking lines and moments
Yeah definitely destroyed every other version in terms of imagination, concept, the mix of styles, how it’s heartwarming and terrifying at times, the scene where he build Pinocchio being filmed like a horror scene, I haven’t felt tension than when Pinocho jumped for the bomb and missed it I felt a physical chill when he missed it and it cut back to the outside of the monster
I agree.
I absolutely love this movie. Just as much as I love the original Disney Pinocchio. It's truly a classic.
I've seen it 3 times now and every time I watch it I love it even more
Honestly I think this one was better than Disney's.
The Disney remake was bad though, it only exists for money
Del Toro’s one was made for its fans
@@the_screaming_cherry3678old Disney Pinocchio is amazing, but this is also amazing
@@antfarm5845 it wasn’t amazing, it was terrible and only exists for money
I absolutely adored the fairies designs in this movie!, they definitely took inspiration from biblical angels with all the wings and eyes everywhere on them. Seriously I giggled like a school girl when I saw their design!
This film hit me in a way I haven't felt since films such as The Land Before Time, The Rescuers, Neverending Story etc. Having a child, the themes of death and Pinocchio's constant curiosity and innocence made me think of my daughter and the hopes and dreams I have for her. It's definitely my favourite adaptation of the story.
10/10. Powerful masterpiece, I love "Ciao Papa" song, it's very heartfelt. At the second climax Pinocchio and the boys were sent in the military training to turn them into soldiers in the future, kind of resemble to Pleasure Island, with a dark element. The kids naively think war is fun and games without reality of war is dark.
I think that the military scene could also be interpreted as a way to show that kids will really just be kids. The boys were supposed to be training for war, but in the end they just took it as a fun game which in the end both parties end up winning. That simply goes to show how precious and innocent children can be. They're still growing up, so letting them evolve on their own healthy and happily is what's right. (I hope my point was clear)
- Also, when watching them having to actually fight when enemies came just broke my heart. I knew instantly that those boys wouldn't last long.
Third times the charm! Guillermo del Toro never fails to deliver.
This movie's the definition of "Third times a charm!" Compared to the recent Phinoccio movies
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 more like “two wrongs make a right”
Probably one of my favourite little details about this movie is how once Pinocchio is created and given life, he stumbles around, and makes more puppet-like movements compared to later in the film.
I actually liked the military part. I can overlook it feeling unnecessary, because it was effective for me. The kids all learn that war isn’t a game, and it hammers home the message that disobedience can be good
This wasn’t just a movie, it brought art back into film
Not the first, but the best one to do it.
You can thank Guillermo del Toro for that. He always brings artistry into his work!
This is my favorite version of pinocchio in general. This one made me feel way more than the other ones.
It felt different in some areas, so it stands out from the rest to me
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 😅😅
I still prefer Benigni and Garrone versions, but i still like a lot the designs in this version !
To me, This is probably the best movie based on a fairly tale (if you consider The Adventures of Pinocchio a fairly tale at least)
I particularly really appreciate the relationship of Candlewick and his father, even if they didn't have the most time to develop or become more personal characters. It was refreshing to see that despite Pinocchio's pep-talk about fathers always loving their kids deep down, Candlewick's father genuinely didn't love him. It was good that they explored both sides without forcing an unrealistically positive message. The bittersweet and 'gray area' morals of this movie were amazingly done.
I do feel that Pinocchio was still right in a way, that “all _fathers_ love their sons” not “ _all_ fathers love their sons”.
And Candlewick’s dad definitely wasn’t a father.
This design of blue fairy gotta be my favorite one.
I always disliked blue fairy design in Disney Pinocchio or just general look of the fairies because they're literally just a human with wings and I think that's really boring.
But this version of fairy, well..I don't think it's even a fairy but more like Sphynx, but still, it's so cool I like it a lot.
Same. I like old stories, about fairies who'll kill you just because they can, or fairies who are almost godlike. Kind of sad how fairies are considered kind little winged people now.
(I love Maleficent though. She cursed a baby because her parents snubbed her)
Loved the movie, I kind of liked that they merged Honest John and Stromboli to keep the focus just a bit tighter, since they chose to first show us the history of Carlo and Geppetto. Replacing Pleasure Island with a fascist youth training institution is also dark as hell, and still fits a narrative purpose similar to the Coachmaster's line from the Disney movie, where he stated "they will never come back as boys".
The gas masks the boys are given during the bombing made me think they were referencing the donkeys scene(since they are longer faces, in a way).
*Watched this with my mom yesterday morning. Absolutely loved it!!! 10/10*
*This was definitely worth the fifteen years it took for the film to finally see the light of day!*
15 years!!!
Couldn’t agree more, the thing I like about this movie actually more than the classic is it respects and trusts the audience with its darkness, But isn’t dark just for the sake of it. It the type of dark that’s respectful to any age that that watches it !
@@theakimboknight No way!! Not only are you a follower of *Not-So-Average-Fangirl* but of *Steve Reviews* too
It took 15 years? Really? I thought it was 2 to 3 years since most of the behind the scenes people are wearing face masks.
The part in the camp its CLEARLY the island where the kids are taken and turned into donkeys (which i love as an analogy).
Also most likely the idea of bringing Pinoccio there is the officer's idea.
I finally had the chance to see it tonight, just finished it a few minutes ago and oh my god did it make me ugly cry (I'm still crying a bit over it), I knew it was going to be emotional but not that much. Call me dumb but I genuinely thought somehow Pinocchio would become a real boy and eventually live out and grow old like his loved ones. The animation was stunning and the actors did a phenomenal, the movie is full of amazing actors. Since I was little I would rewatch Disney's Pinocchio since I've always loved this movie, my dad would read the book and sing me a song about the character. I guess remembering those memories and watching this movie made me feel extremely emotional.
This is easily the best Pinocchio, being fun and still emotional family related, while also being magical and mature, I also love how well he looks being full wood.
I love how they replaced the donkey island with that other island. The comentary is very smart, I think it wasn't unecesary at all, especially nowadays.
Exactly seeing as the government official who was voiced by Ron Perlman was supposed to be a substitute for the usual Coachman and the government official definitely deserved the death he got seeing as he physically and mentally abused and belittled his son
I didn't like that change. More people can relate to the donkey island, idk how many people can relate to being a kid in a war camp
@@bushisback112 I'm in Russia rn, so you must understand the implications. Trust me, i related all right.
@@AA-cf4es for sure, very useful in many parts of the world right now. American culture could use more lessons about donkey island which I think John might have had in mind.
Man, you have no idea how many times I've cried while watching this film
I was in tears when Carlo (Geppetto’s biological son) died. I LOVED THAT KID! 😭
Italian here. I loved the nods that this version and ONLY this version had towards obscure extracts of the book. Like the mortician rabbits, I didn't expect to see them in movie format for once!
Del Toro is one of the greatest filmmakers of this generation
Hands down the best Pinocchio out of all three that came out this year del toro has done it again
Those fairy designs scream Del Toro's style in creature design and I adore that. You can just look at them and think "Yup that's his work"
The ending was wholesome and yet heartbreaking AF.
“He ventured into the world. And the world, I believe, embraced him back. I’ve not heard from him in quite a while. Will he eventually die? I think so. Maybe that makes him a real boy. What happens, happens. And then… we are gone.” 🥲
I watched this film when it came out and loved it beginning to end this movie is going to be classic masterpiece everyone can look back to in a few years . A true wonder we got
You don't need to say you watched it when it came out when it came out a day or two ago
I think the running gag of the cricket being squashed was a nod to the book where Pinocchio kills the cricket with a hammer. (The hammer itself appears in one of the later squashing sequences.) Being familiar with the book, I was expecting the cricket to die and come back as a ghost, so it was a neat twist when it turned out it was Pinocchio.
Just FYI, the "ll" in Guillermo is pronounced like a "y." Glad you liked the film. So much detail and loved the allusions (the forest scenes paying homage to Selick's Nightmare Before Christmas, the Godfather lighting, the Frankenstein nods, and even the red balloon doubling as a wink at both IT and The Red Balloon). Truly one of the best films Netflix has put out (maybe THE best, now that I think about it).
Yeah, I didn’t know what to expect from Del Toro talking on Pinocchio, but I knew he’d have a very surreal, unique take on it. I was not disappointed. This went places I definitely did not expect, and I really appreciate the darker themes, and ennui that comes with death, politics, and the human condition. Brilliantly done, gorgeously and lovingly made, I highly recommend it 💙
I really hope that GDT sees all of the love and praise that this film has received given how much of a passion project this obviously was! ❤️
I just watch it yesterday and I totally love it, have some changes but it feels like that old tales you hear on your childhood, feels so nostalgic but fresh.
Edit: I'm blow away about the cast, that's why they sound so familiar.
0:19 wow, from the covers alone you can tell what sort of quality to expect.
This movie had more heart, love and dedication to one scene, than the entire live action remake did in its entire runtime.
I cried with that ending holy shit, I was no expecting that, amazing movie and that stop motion animation was insane.
i cried as well, so hard. it was such a beautiful movie.
Fun Fact: The model for Pinocchio is the only one in the movie to be 3D printed
It's so mind blowing the rest are mechanical puppets, with latex faces! Wow!
Funny that the fact matches the movie setting and narrative
I know the film also got Mackinnon and Saunders a British company to make the puppets the company is also responsible for making the puppets for other iconic British stop-motion shows including Bob the Builder and Postman Pat
it's insane that we got Pinocchio and Wendell & Wild within months of each other. 2 top notch stop-motion movies so close to each other
Haven't cried so much in years as i did when watching this movie😊A masterpiece,Thank you GDT😊
I really love the designs of the Wood Sprite, especially Death's design.
Same. I loved the usage of colour to convey the more mystiq elements. Most of the cast and inviorments in the living world (except Sebastian which could suggest certain implecations:/) have very earthy palettes with varying tones of brown and orange, while the sprites contrast that with deep blues, and vice versa when Pinocchio dies and meets Death. Generally I just loved the scenes with the death sprite, both the set and her animation was just sooo majestic.
Put aside Death and the Sprite, I actually fell in love with the Dogfish's design. Both from an artistic and a naturally authentic view.
@@LazyOldFusspot_3428 yeah I liked that design too
Legit my favorite reimagined version. I didn't have a problem with the lying to get out of Monstro here, because it has been established that Pinocchio has learned that lying only gets him in trouble, and he has understood that lesson by the time they are eaten. Also, I'm pretty sure Lampwick did not survive.
That's what I felt, too. It really seemed like the only reason they showed Lampwick running out and calling for Pinocchio was to lighten an otherwise pretty morbid scene. After all, we never see him after that point.
@@TheTrevorFox Candlewick, not Lampwick.
@@kevinlee7678 Ahp! You're right
The "whale" is referred as the Dogfish, based on the original novel counterpart.
I feel like he does survive but is on the run with the other kids most likely. He probably dies one way or another but at the time he uses his newfound knowledge to try and escape nazihood.
Wow, to think I found your channel about three-ish years ago and still enjoy your content to this day.
Steve, you have helped me find and discover hidden treasure in media past. Thanks man, you helped me through the loneliness of pandemic times. Keep on trucking pal!
I think the issues you had are ok since it was the rules stated by the Death Fairy that she made the rules and it was Pinocchio's choice to remain "immortal" or give it up for another, which made him more human for he's sacrifice of dying for Geppetto. It means something that the Death Fairy gave him a choice to return to save a life, even when she knew he might die. A life for a life.
As for Sebastian's wish i don't think it was bad either. He has seen how childish pinocchio was at first but saw how mature he got from going to the circus to sacrificing himself twice for them and Geppetto. The wish was brought up due to Sebastian seeing the good he had and thought he deserved a true chance at life. Heck, wouldn't surprise me if the Blue Fairy brought him back because of he's good deeds but Sebastian beat her to it.
It's a very good ending and the bittersweetness of it really works: people in your life die and we should make the most of it, even if things are sacrificed to do so for the people we love.
I felt like I’ve seen this movie my entire life, that’s how good it is instant classic.
This is a definite classic. I was so excited to watch this film and seeing it come to fruition was a treat. Also, on the subject of Pinocchio lying to save everyone, I feel it was done better here than in the Disney remake for two reasons:
1. The timing of the instance is much better. When Pinocchio does this in the Disney remake, it's right after he lies to cover his own ass for abandoning school. It doesn't work there because this should be the part where they make it clear that lying is bad and that Pinocchio should not be doing it, especially while consciously knowing he was in the wrong. In del Toro's film, it's when they are trapped inside the monster and Pinocchio is not doing this to escape telling the truth. Here, he is acting more selflessly, telling obvious lies that aren't meant to shirk blame from himself but, rather, save himself and his loved ones.
2. It fits better to the moral ambiguity. Both try to play around with the messages of the original story, such as not telling lies. While interesting on paper, it doesn't pan out for Disney because they are trying to do that while keeping true to their original movie. The original 1940 film was more black and white on the subject of morality (lying bad, behaving good, and, if you do the right thing, you'll turn into a real boy). As a result, the remake becomes jumbled as its trying to be morally black and white and morally gray at the same time. Meanwhile, del Toro keeps his film more morally gray. While he does show why one should listen to their elders through Gepetto and Pinocchio's argument at the carnival, he also shows how it can be dangerous to blindly follow what everyone else says through Mussolini and his fascist regime. The film is showing that there are situations where following the rules is right and where it is wrong.
The fairy designs were phenomenal. The fairy that gives pinnochio life appears to be based on the biblical seraphim. The fairy of death appears to be inspired by a chimera, with snake tails, a lion body, and an assortment of goat horns atop her head. They look incredible.
I'm cutting out before the spoilers. I will come back and finish this video after I see the movie. I just discovered your channel today and I've been binging non-stop. Great job on everything. I can't wait to see what you'll do next.
I just loved how dark, heartwarming the movie was. Beautiful stop motion.
Have you seen Wendell and Wild yet? I really loved it!
@@moraantonparcet4546 I love that film. I prefer this one over it though
@@moraantonparcet4546 I have not! Is it also stop motion?
deserves best picture
@@Toseuteuu yeah
Hope that del toro does more stop motion and become popular
Indeed
Also meat canyon did a horror take on Pinocchio
To be quite honest, I doubt he will make another stop motion film! BUT he is well known here in Mexico for funding stop motion studios set in Guadalajara. Check out cinema fantasma if it interest you :3
Hopefully he cooperates more with the Henson company and Jim Henson's daughter. They also made age of resistance which is also puppetry and the like.
@@rheimy7819 Was Cinema Fantasma founded by Guillermo?
I saw this last night and I loved it. It was gorgeous and full of all kinds of emotions, not unlike a Ghibli film (especially ones like Porco Rosso and Howl). And you can tell Patrick McHale had a hand in it, because Pinocchio did remind a bit of Greg from Over the Garden Wall, along with similar theming. We need more movies like this!
I can't remember the last time a musical made me smile this much. Normally I just think how I'm stuck waiting for five minutes before the plot can start again.
I seriously loved Gregory Mann’s voice, and absolutely adored Everything Is New to Me. His curiosity with his insanely innocent voice! Adorable!
i absolutely loved the message of the movie. the times we share with others are precious and beautiful, because we don’t know how long we have with them. i dealt with two losses this year, the loss of a lover through a breakup, and the loss of a friend. therefore, when i saw how this movie beautifully handled the theme of loss, i bawled my eyes out, recollecting the times i had with the ones i loved. this movie was a beautiful story that teaches the importance of letting yourself accept and grieve.
I saw you made a review of the movie so I watched it before seen your video and I agree the behind the scenes is just so good at giving context to all the hard work they did, and the many puppet size was just mind blowing!!
The boat captain absolutely fucking off when the fish shows up had me literally laughing out loud.
Guillermo del toro is always such a visual treat
My little sister watched all three Pinocchios this year and said this one was her favorite
Because she can’t say the name she looks for the woodboy
She watches it on repeat with frankenweenie and nightmare before Christmas
I used to be the same way with chicken run haha
I was happy to see a PG movie that actually earned that rating and didn't shy away on it's darkness that would have led the film to easily be PG-13. For how people today are so easily offended by the most slightly mature things, I never imagined another movie today similar to Return to Oz or The Land Before Time, movies that were dark but were beautifully deep. There's death, realistic horror in life and so many existential questions and morals that probably won't go over every kid watching it. And especially being a Netflix film, they could've made it like the other 2022 Pinocchio movies that were bland and inoffensive as possible. But they didn't and chose to take chances, and even changed things from the book that are arguably BETTER. We'll see where Mr. Del Toro goes for his next movie, but it's gonna be hard to top this one.
Honestly, I was a bit disappointed that this didn't get a PG-13 rating, but after watching the movie, I'm fine with the rating it got and deservingly so unlike any other animated film made nowadays, specifically some that got a PG for only minor adult things in them that have little to no purpose in the story.
COUGH Minions 2, COUGH Paws of Fury, COUGH Superpets, COUGH Ice Age 6.
Sorry, I must've had the MPAA is a joke stuck in my throat.
I agree, this felt like a movie from my childhood and I absolutely loved it!
That's one of the things I love about this movie and I'm glad this movie earned a PG rating for reasons that actually make sense. it feels like a timeless family film from the 80s which isn't afraid to explore darker ideas/imagery and doesn't talk down to either kids or adults with patronizing pop culture references, shoehorned Top 20 hit singles for Alvin and the Chipmunks to sing every 30 seconds, tired Marvel-esque quips or self indulgent meta-overload where the movie makers are in on the joke *winkwink. We're not stupid and Del Toro knows that which is why he trusts us to be able to appreciate this beautiful work of art on its own terms and not feel the need to dumb anything down. It's very refreshing and I wish more people in charge of making and releasing films understood that.
@@colbystearns5066 Straight hard facts and I love it for that. Easily for me the best movie of 2022.
@@tylerfish2701 best 2022 movie indeed. tired of superhero bs, without substance just hype.
I would like to say thank you so much Steve for talking about this film. This is one of my favorite films of last year.
Wow, look at that. A good writer can make any story good, whether it's a new IP or a rehash of something old.
Good writers are something hollywood is in severe lack of.
I fucking loved this movie! I hope deltoro continues to make dark kids movies
Yeah because it takes place in Ww2
@@lizardkid666 it doesn’t take place in ww2
@@persephone9458 stil some time close to it
@@persephone9458 Yes it did, the Mussolini Youth Camp was bombed by the RAF. Did you think Fascist Italy bombed their own Youth Camp? Where did you think those planes come from?
@@Popcultureguy3000 this movie takes place in the 1930s. WW2 hadn’t started
I had a chance to watch it yesterday, it was absolutely gorgeous! Wonderful story, beautiful animation, and pinnochio was so charmingly naive, yet mature (at times)
I feel like your videos are a great guide to help me know whats worth watching. Im definitely going to check this out
This is one of those few films that actually and genuinely made me cry at the end.
I absolutely loved it
I literally just finished watching the film minutes before you uploaded. I cried at the ending.
Just watched it this morning, it's so good!! I'm so in love with the different storyline, the stop motion, the songs, basically the whole movie itself! The "What do you call it." song is stuck in my head for a whole day, it's cutely...annoying? 😂 but overall, I love the movie, 100/10 would watch it again!
adore this film, every aspect- from the character designs, to the voices, how the backgrounds look like paintings.
stop motion has always been a gorgeous art form, and i would love to see more movies try this style.
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i bawled my eyes out at the end, not a lot of movies can do that to me.
we live in a timeline where spongebob and mussolini share a voice actor, what a time to be alive
I truly loved this version of Pinocchio, rather impressed and delighted at the fact they went out of their way to make a story that felt fresh and different from the child-friendly Pinocchio we've known over the years (and the Pauly Shore one). And of the three we got, I'll gladly take this one over the other two we got. And that's saying something when I enjoy Disney movies yet I can't even give the 2022 remake from Disney any benefit of the doubt.
The songs didn't quite bother me as much, outside of Volpe's 'Let's do it twice' song. The rest were charming, cute and I LOVE the fact Sebastian's song gets comically interrupted at every chance in the film. Everything is new to me was charming and with the stop motion style, reminded me of a calm version of 'What's this?'. 'Ciao Papa, Mio Papa' was precious and I loved it. And interestingly, if you listen closely, they incorporate the songs into the music. Such as the 'Il Dulce' song being incorporated as Podesta (the Facist 'Peacekeeper') takes the children to the training camp.
Ironically, as you discuss at 6:09, that was something I had a problem with in the Disney Remake. Wanting more of Geppetto's thoughts and arc on him overcoming the death of his beloved son and how Pinocchio may not be his former son, but he is HIS son. While they have Geppetto says something in the end in the Disney remake, there's nothing there for me to feel invested. Meanwhile here, I feel both Geppetto's pain and Pinocchio's struggle to try and prove himself. Heck, when Pinocchio goes out of his way to bargain to get his father out of debt and to avoid war, I actually felt bad and understanding of why he did it, even if he didn't know it was gonna lead to bad things.
And as someone said, Pinocchio is basically a beacon of hope for everyone he meets. Sebastian was a failed writer, but he truly learns what it means to be humble and to do your best. To the point where he willingly gives up his wish because he too felt care for the boy. And in kind, Pinocchio keeps Sebastian in his heart, even long after he passes. Geppetto lost his son, lost his passion and hope. And through time, he truly finds that love again and is willingly to move heaven and earth just to be with his son. Zattura, the monkey, was constantly mistreated and abused by Volpe and thought this was life and what had to be. But when Pinocchio comes around, they realize that Volpe doesn't give two cares for them and that they can leave, they can find the strength again. And when Pinocchio is to be burnt alive, the monkey risks it's life and limb to save him. And in return, they manage to find a home happily with the rest of them until the end of Zattura's days.
The fact Pinocchio gets to live on while the rest of his family dies truly broke me. Showing that he gave them warmth and joy through the last of their days, and still kept their memories close to his heart. Really giving heart to the message about cherishing your moments and living life to the fullest. I can see and respect your nitpicks, but at least in this case with the 'lying saving the day' thing, at least it works better here because even the father understands why he does it and allows it. And it saves the day, verses Pinocchio and Jiminy just discovering it. Even further, Pinocchio in this verse at least acts like a real kid verses the one from Disney acting too nice and kind for his own good.
All in all, a solid 10/10 film for me. And like you, I highly recommend it.
Perfectly stated! I thought it was a little strange how Pinocchio was shown to be the last character alive at the end, but you explained very well how important he was to the deceased characters around him. The closing really summed up the overall message of enjoying the lives of those around you.
This movie really made me feel something - incredible for a modern film.
very well stated!! the theme of loss and death broke me. it was very well placed into the film, and i cried at the film’s ending.
@@into_play3226 "this movie made me feel something" I swear all they need to do is throw a war camp for children into a movie and people will love it
@bushisback112 are you ok bro? Is this like a "I think showing children and the new generations what our history was truly like awful and offensive" or is this a "dear god help me I need attention" comment? Lol
I'm really happy seeing you review Del Toro's Pinocchio! I personally loved it, especially since I adore stop-motion
I watched this movie last night and just had to see if you covered it, so happy you did because this is easily my favorite adaptation of Pinocchio. Probably one of my favorite movies ever now
I loved the casual use of Matte paintings for the backgrounds. Looked amazing
It was a brilliant movie through and through, it did felt that a piece was missing. I felt a couple of scenes between pinochio and cricket were needed, I felt that another a little lengthier scene in the death room was also needed. Overall it left a really positive taste in my mouth and the meaning and narrative of the whole movie was really well put.
3 Pinocchio movies in one year!
I guess you could call it:
Pinocchio No Way Home!
Pinocchi-No Way Home perhaps.
@@wolvepotter5858 I see what you did there😂
Happy new year Steve. Great review as always.
I was not expecting to cry as much as I did with this film. It was amazing. I loved the movie.