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FATAL FLAW - Spyderco Para3 Lightweight
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2020
- The Spyderco Paramilitary 3 Lightweight has a fatal flaw... Spyderco please fix!!!
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For anybody wondering he gets on with it at about 4:41 Spoiler: would hardly call it a fatal flaw so much as a potential mishap that is very unlikely to happen to most people using wire clips..
It's an issue with the Chapparal but no other Spydercos just because of how thin the scales are, they literally can't make the grooves any deeper but it's easy for most users to avoid this 'fatal flaw'. It won't happen with the P3LW that's for sure, so this is a clickbaity waste of time. Disliked and reported for the misleading title.
This video should be called flaw with the chaparral,my para3 lw (rex45) has deeper grooves. I believe the reason for the shallow grooves on the chaparral are due to the scales being so thin you really can’t make them much deeper.
Could be. I've handled a P3LW before and the grooves seemed about the same but I could be wrong. At this point I'm just not comfortable with anything that has that wire clip + FRN scales.
Operater abuse equals fatal flaw. Got it.
Good to hear as just ordered my p3lw
He only talks about the issues of his Spyderco Chaparral and shows his Benchmade bugout and Para 2 in comparison Where is the The Para 3 and the flaw of that knife .You should of called the video Fatal flaw of the Chaparral .
Jup!
The Spyderco Para 3 LW is awesome. I actually have one, so I know!
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I view your problem more as a rare occurrence rather than what is the norm and as such is hardly what I would consider a "FATAL" flaw. I have both knives and prefer the bugout for EDC anyways. Thanks for the video, looking forward the seeing more.
Well the reason I called it a fatal flaw is that it really ruined the knife for me. The pocket clip won't stay in at all anymore even after a trip back to Spyderco. I don't prefer pocket carry with no clip so now it just sits in my drawer. But you're right, it's probably not a super common occurrence for most people.
Never had this problem. Try owning one first
They don't locktite the wire clip fasteners from the factory. If the screws loosen then yeah will snag and bend the clip or damage the FRN. Solution is to locktite and make sure tight. I have been carrying a Para 3 LW and zero clip issues after . The knife has other issues like the blade being difficult to keep 100% centered and the action without play is not as drop shutty as regular P3.
I honestly love my para3 lw. The wire clip has never caused issues for me. Kinda curious how you got something caught on it to damage it so badly? Seems more like a clumsy mistake on your part than a flaw with the knife
He has to have a title with enough click bait to get the views
I as well believe your theory.
@@kpfagerbergYou nalied it, I think thumb's down could cure that!!
My Bugout omega spring has broken 3 times. Sent back to get fixed 3 times. Interesting find though, I haven’t snagged my knifeon something in a long while.thx for vid.
Thin small washer larger than head of screw will hold it in place. You can even apply gorilla glue in the grooves before hand.
Nice clickbait-you have a first world problem-either get new scales or just use the clip on the other side.
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My god man 2 minutes in and your still rambling some of us have adhd! Wtf is the flaw! Edit that four minutes! Skip to four minutes if you don’t want to hear rambling!
Lynch makes deep carry pocket clips for the Spyderco lightweight knives. It’s not a wire clip but still uses the grooves to sit in
Well articulated criticism.
Have you thought of taking it to the forums?
They have their own online forum and I believe I’ve seen others talk about similar issues. Doesn’t seem to be too common though.
It’s probably a decent opportunity to implement some cqi.
Nicely done first video, btw.
Thanks, I appreciate it! Good idea about the forums. I've lurked on there in the past but it might not be a bad idea to mention it there.
Best clip Spyderco makes.
Not a high bar unfortunately
Very much agreed! I wish it was their standard clip instead of the stupid spoon clip that everyone has to spend $20 to replace immediately after they buy a spyderco.
A similar thing happened with my pocketclip. It got snagged and got bent out of shape. So I took off the clip and now I just keep it loose in my pocket like a traditional.
I’ve had zero issues now with the many wire clip Spydies I own. Maybe you’re extra rough on your clips, whatever that means? My knife doesn’t move laterally in my pocket, so there’s little to no lateral stress on the clip. I think the problem would have to be widespread - which it clearly isn’t - to be a fatal flaw. Good vid nonetheless!
I’ve heard Spydie warranty is a PITA. You spent the time to ship them your knife, you’d think the LEAST they would do is swap the 89 cent scale out!!
I am surprised that Spyderco hasn't developed their own deep carry screw in pocket clip. The Lynch clips work great for the G10 scales, but having to spend the extra money is not ideal.
Mehhh.... the wire clip is fine for the vast majority of people. Those working construction, heavy equipment, ect.. ect... might want a knife with a traditional clip but snagging a clip that hard can wreck any knife. Though rare I've seen knives that have had clip screws ripped from or broken off of G10 scales. If regularly snagging a clip is a problem then carrying a knife just dropped inside the pocket would be the way to go. Either that or a fixed blade in a kydex sheath. I'm curious though how was this knife snagged so hard?
I think you’ve got it. It’s about what he did to his knife, not about the design of the knife itself.
I have been carying a pocket knife for 60 years and I completed 21 years in the US military. I have never snagged a pocket clip. Because a pocket clip gets snagged is not a knife design flaw it is a operater design flaw.
Thats your major flaw, the damn clip? Bugout has a flaw that i noticed with their axis lock. When you open the blade all the way and after it locks, sometimes and it doesn’t lock all the way properly where it feels like it has some play. If you push the unlock slider all the way up, then it tightens up where the play disappears.
My manix 2 lw doesn’t have this issue the grooves are deeper. I have had the single screw loosen to where the clip had play but I just tighten it back. This clip in particular never gets caught on things, rather it just slides off of things I’ve noticed. Great clip for me, the wire clip is actually my favorite style clip. my Milwaukee box knife has the same style clip, Love it on there too
How old is your chap? because they actually released a CQI addressing the clip wear out issue on the newest batch. The new grooves are deeper and more radial
Really? I'm gonna have to contact Spyderco and ask them about that. Not sure if mine is the new version or the old one.
Thanks for making this video! Crap, I just bought the Chaparral to, I love it so far and never thought about the wire clip wearing out the FRN like that.
Hopefully it doesn't happen to you. Maybe I'm just bad at walking past things 😂
Covert Prepper haha!
I’ve been caring the mint green para three lightweight daily for 2 months and I haven’t had any problems yet.
I do, however, know what you’re talking about.
I have had wire clips shift on me before.
Is there a pocket clip you recommend for FRN handles?
It's weird how people can come to opposite conclusions.
Love the chaparral, definitely don't like the steel.
It takes away from the build, IMHO.
I just gotta wonder what you make your knife do.
The P3 with not Batman level steel is super solid for me and I know how to make a blade earn it's keep.
I saw somewhere that someone was making a small steel plate that gets embedded on the inside of the scales to allow you to use normal spyderco pocket clips on the lightweight models
If you can find it drop the link here
@@covertprepper5957 I
can't find it anymore but I bet I could make it lol
I have Para3 spy27 blue
The knife is amazing
Better than pare 2
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Have a Para 3 lightweight - carried it everyday at work , until I noticed the clip had bent and wasn't as tight in my pocket . I straightened it and put a washer in with the screw to hold it down better , and it helped , but still after a while the clip wouldn't stay firmly / evenly on the scale . Ordered a clip from Lynch Northwest - hopefully that will work ......
Mine was centered then, after while got off centered man, and I've tried adjusting it ext, but it's just how there is more of a liner on one side, makes it off centered to the left
The worst part about this is that spyderco wouldn't completely replace the knife. So much for paying for that lifetime warranty. You might as well get on Aliexpress and buy a clone.
Biggest flaw of the para3 lightweight is the blade centering issue due to just one washer.
Centering isn't an issue unless the blade touches on the handle or something
Why didn’t they give you some new scales ?
Hey let me buy that knife? I take all my belt clips off😃
Para3lw wire clip great design. Imo.
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J.c you ramble on. If you’re making a video about 1 fatal flaw please leave out the things you love about the company..
Jb weld. Might even come pretty close to matching the color of the scales.
They won’t sell you a replacement scale?
I never had this problem and I carry and use the Chaparral frn all the time.
Pocket clips are great for losing your knife. I have the Para 3 LW and took off the clip. Can barely tell it’s in my pocket
That’s a fact! I’ve lost em walking through thickets and even riding in boats.
I agree 100%. I
Clickbait. Wasted 9min of my life. And yeah, if I hit clip with something strong it will break. Whole knife could break. Maybe I could be hurt if clip hit something strong like car or truck. So the flaw is not just fatal it is also deadly. Flaw of the knife you DON'T have and use!!!
Came from Instagram and subscribed
Thank you!
This gave me a bit of a headache waiting watching searching for the pm3
Just replace the scale lol )) i thought you will tell us about some REAL fatal flaw which will stop me from buying it. Im more concerned with overall rigidness of the knife without the steel liners.
I think the expectations are misguided, its plastic lightweight scales. When buying a "lightweight" knife, you will lose some build strength, should be expected. If a lightweight knife was just as strong as its normal big brother, I would venture to bet sales would suffer, something has to give. Put out an ad for want to buy, you will probably find new scales someone replaced.
No, there are plenty of knives with plastic scales that don’t have this issue. It’s specifically the combination of FRN scales with the wire pocket clip that doesn’t work.
Hey what pocket clip do you have on your Spyderco para 3
Seems like they should had a 2 screw design to prevent rotation.
I have a Manix 2 lw same problem. I recently got the native 5 and what I realized with these lightweights is that they also don’t use washers. I think that changes the deployment too. So it would be nice for those two things to be corrected.
No it’s even weirder they only use one washer. I watched a video and a Spyderco employee took apart a para 3 lw and said the frn is so smooth they only need a washer in the side against one side
I removed the pocket clip as soon as I got it haha
Yeah cts is great if you can find it . Have a few cold steels with it . And that dam CF elite bugout I list it 2 weeks in to dam light lol
Yeah it is! Lighter than the Chaparral FRN! I couldn't believe it.
@duke togo ... I'm very, very fond of my Spyderco Hundred Pacer in CTS XHP. It's earned a spot in my EDC rotation. But I do like larger blades too.
Martin Miller I wish more companies would make knives in XHP. It’s terrific.
My first action with any knife that has the small wire clip is to put a lynch NW custom clip. Always had trouble with them moving sideways, no matter how tight the clip screw was.
personally i don't get the hype for wire clips, they are cheap and weak and they wiggle left and right and scratch up the scales.
ever when i see that a knife has a wire clip i have a hard time buying it.
like with the gm ace clyde, love that design, but unfortunatley it has that dreadful clip😂
on my endura 4 I alreday broke three of the flimsy little clips. would rather have a wire as that seems a lot sturdier to me...
I can see the prob with the shallow groves though....
I like to call my clips magazines and magazines clips
LOL
I hawe Spayderco and Benchmade and my Osborne is the best for me
Send it back to warranty ddeparment, letthem decide, they will probably pita new scale on it
So much teeth sucking. Really annoying with those awesome microphones.
i have never had this problem lol
Great knife, but bad steel , steel level 8chrome
Soldering iron would fix it.
My first Spyderco was in 1992. I am surprised that I can remember that far back.
Jb weld? You could probably make it work
Yeah the only problem with that is then you can’t take the clip off in case it gets bent again
You lost me on the benchmade bugout mat. Also, you dont own the knife you thumb nailed! Dont waste our times bro. And try a para 3 with spy 27. Jesus man.
Why wouldn't spyderco just put a new scale on it? I like spyderco knives but their pricing is getting out of control. Guess they've watched the movie, "Wall Street" too many times. "Greed is good."
Yeah I'm not sure why they didn't just replace the scale. I have noticed their prices going up. That old Delica I showed in the video... I think I paid like $60 for it years ago. Now they're like $85! I'm not sure if that's just inflation, cost of materials going up, or if they're just charging more because they can. 🤷🏻♂️
Break down and get a new scale 😁🦉👍🏼
Click bait. Got me 😕
Just replace the scales. Duh.
This is such bullshit. Your whole bad review is based on a feature on a other knife then the one you're complaining about.
As stated before in the comments Lynch makes a solid clip that is milled to get support from the wire grooves, however that one is for Para 3 and others NOT for the ones with lockback since the groove ain't the same.
I never use pocket clips i just take mine off old grandpa style
Get some different scales.
Just buy a custom clip !!!
Beat it nerd
I own 3 with the wire clip, no issues.
Para 3 FRN,...Dragonfly FRN,.....and Delica 4 FRN. of course.
I'm calling BS!!
Ridiculous clickbait, thumbs down.
Click bait waste of time, no subscribe, won't be back.
Maybe get a job with CNN. is in your future!!
mostly his DRAMA, not worth watching