The Flash: What if Barry Actually Stopped Mardon’s Tidal Wave?
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Is Barry and Iris still brother and sister? And did Joe adopted, shouldn't Barry's last name changed?
I would like a part 2
Like what if Barry didn’t go back in time to save his mom at the end of season 2? Does savitar exist?
You should definitely do more of this
What if savitar actually became a god, pspspspsps season 3 ur welcome
Finaly some inknologed this and made a what if storie
As much as Cisco is my absolute favorite character, I can't argue that I wouldn't sacrifice him for this version of the show. You made this sound very ideal.
You watch this!?
You watch the Arrowverse?
u watch the flash?
U watch the flash ?
Fr Cisco is apart of the show you can’t take that away
"And Barry's not an Idiot... well atleast Season 1 Barry wasn't he was just a little slow" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love this channel.
Barry was never an idiot tho
@@madnessarcade7447 Yeah. He was really fucking smart. 5.9 GPA, A Double Major, CSI, was incredibly knowledgeable in most science categories. Even in Season 2 We See some of these Traits. But by Season 3, His intelligence seemed to stop being a Major Focal point. Like he couldn't figure out who Savitar was, Even though most of the fanbase figured it out from "I am the Future Flash". Season 1 and 2 Barry weren't dumb, They were just to "Trusting" they weren't villagant enough. Meanwhile Season 3 and beyond were just plain oblivious to Obvious Things. Except Maybe Season 4. He got Devoe's identity real quick. But in Season 5 his intelligence seemed to be lowered so he wouldn't solve everything by himself, and In Season 6, It took him way to long to realize that His Wife was a Mirror Clone, That Mirror Clone Iris was not good at acting. He should've figured that out way sooner.
@@madnessarcade7447 Barry shouldn't need a Team Flash to help him solve his problems. The Flash's Brain processes in an Attosecond. Plus his already incredibly Intelligence. He wouldn't need 1 Second, Let alone an Entire Fight to deduce any Meta-Human's weaknesses. But he never does that. The writer's purposely lower Barry's Speed and Intelligence to fit thier story points. And yeah, Without this There would be no story, and no entertaining show. But they do it CONSTANTLY. One Episode Barry is out running a nuke, and in the next he can't dodge getting punched in the face. In One Episode Barry's Intelligence seems extremely high and in the next he's confused at all the Science stuff Cisco and Caitlyn are saying. It's just really inconsistent.
@@madnessarcade7447yes he was
@@madnessarcade7447 in the later season barry did some stupid stuff like going to to make sure nora was okay instead of catching the bad guy (nora was 100% fine he didnt need to check if she was okay)
"Speaking of stupid, let's switch back to Barry for a second."
Oh the SHADE!
😂
Read that as it played
Dang it I’m the 499th like
The writers: *I don’t care, only I can LIMIT Barry’s speed*
To be fair, they kinda have to, or else Barry would be far too overpowered, like he is in the comics, where he's beyond lightspeed casually.
I mean they change his speed too much cuz in s4 he was traveling at 99.99% the speed of light but he couldn’t avoid Ramsey Rosso’s punch?
@@siddharthgirish9451 Ramsey was not in s4 he was in s6
@@siddharthgirish9451 Well, Barry was weakened by the takeover right before. So it's understandable.
@@forcelord9999 ik bro I was just saying his speed decreased over 2 seasons going forward.
If this timeline continued, Barry would become like The Flash from the comics
R u sure because he hasn't met Batman yet only weak Superman
@@knrz2562 I mean as a solo superhero
@@shortstickfights6772 what are you talking about?
@@darkshadowx803Like he would become a solo superhero and wouldn't rely on people
@@shortstickfights6772 ok make sense
Barry: Why did you killed my mother?
Eobard: .. because I hate you.
*NOW **_THAT_** IS TRUE VILANY*
@Alexander Brigagao it was a joke
You mean Kill right?
Watch out for those lame dumb af grammar police... Lol what a life or lack off life
@@tjpowell234 *lack of hehe
@VB Yeah, you're probably onr of them
Oh Barry would’ve beat Nora’s ass if she was working with thawne in this timeline lmao
If she would ever be born
@@munchyman2642 she wouldn’t. No team flash. No resources to stop savitar. = iris death.
@@buincqv67 although if this is the new timeline, maybe savitar wouldn't exist. and then they would've already fought devoe instead of savitar
@@buincqv67savitar probably wouldn't exist though
@@buincqv67 no devoe since bus metas cant exist
There’s actually the Cw Flash book series, based in another timeline where Barry never created Flashpoint. These books are actually quite interesting and I think canon. I would check them out :)
Fr? Where can I find them?
Where can I find them?
What's it's name? Can I find it on the DC Universe app?
What is the name please??
Sure. I think the first one is The Flash Hocus Pocus. There kinda cheesy, but better than the new seasons to be honest :)
I don't know if Barry could even efford the food he needs...
About 17,000 per year.
steal it
He could just DO HIS FUCKING JOB FOR ONCE!.
@@SilentSnake1998 he does eventually lol. He leaves it then he uses his speed to finish
@@buburubus Oh yeah, I forgot that he actually did his job in S3. I miss S1 Barry, at least he wasn't a plank of wood like S4 &5 Barry.
Yes I’ve wanted this for so long
Same
Likewise.
@@primalvelocity3811 “So I’m gonna help you or your gonna reverse flash me?” - Cisco S3
Also me... do not try it. 🥺🥺🥺
I’ve been waiting for this for six years
Same!!!!
I feel like Barry and Team Arrow would start working together
I don't like arrow
I feel like this could possibly be the og timeline flash
A few things you missed comics - Snart wouldn't know Barry's identity because Cisco wouldn't be able to tell him that , snart and Rory wouldn't have their cold and heat gun because there is no Cisco , season 2 would be entirely different because Cisco helped confirm zoom' s identity etc
By the way - I would love to watch what if scenarios like this please make more🙏
That's true but if Thawne put together the rouges like Comics suggested, Thawne would realistically tell Snart Barry's the flash and could arrange for Snart and Rory to get new cold and heat guns but that's just me.
I would like to think that Snart would end up teaming up with barry aging.
They stole the guns before he this happened so they would still have their guns
@@haidenjordan4660 No they wouldn't have because the guns were destroyed after Snart and Roy were caught in ep 10, that was the whole reason Snart kidnapped Cisco in ep 15, to rebuild the heat and cold guns for them.
@@BeegDd4140 there are smarter people in the world. Yes he was the one who engineered the guns but there are people that adapt really fast.
"Speaking of stupid, let's switch back to Barry for a sec"
Lmaoooo
whats wrong with you
@@hildabatisai6424 LMAOO
@@aqui_the_flipper7920 have you seen yourself in the mirror
You sound idiotic you're calling barry an idiot for no reason
@@darkshadowx803 Barry is an idiot what do u mean?
I agree with basically all of this but I think Iris and Barry would name their kid after Caitlin
Caitlin literally carries the show sometimes.
Why do you think that
@@darkshadowx803 Since Iris and Barry got together sooner then they might have their daughter sooner and since Caitlin would have died a few years before it would make sense they would name her Caitlin. They might also just have that as her middle name
@@heroicdorkgoop4850 I like that idea but barry & iris would have waited until they got married to have a kid
@@darkshadowx803 well in the new timeline they could have gotten married sooner. There’s so many things we can speculate because it’s a completely new timeline with infinite possibilities
Season two would be weird because kaitlyn isn’t there with hunter and Cisco isn’t there to open any of the breaches so I think a season two video would be cool
“He was just a little slow” both pun and good point
9:07 dont forget about when Barry almost straightup Murdered Cicada No. 1 in Season 5 (the episode when it involved the list thingy) and even that season finale when he couldve easily ripped Eobard’s heart to pieces
I always think about that first time travel, and he doesn't actually time travel but instead reverses time just like Nora because if he did time travel he should see himself in the street corner. I know he sees himself while running but not when he is just standing.
Yo u might be right
Reversing time is a type of time travel
@@waverider6133 rewinding time is a type of time travel, yes, but the difference is that rewinding time doesn't create paradoxes, no matter what happens. Just like how Nora was able to rewind time in order to save everyone from dying, there were no repercussions, well outside of mental exhaustion I guess.
So was the other timeline with the tsunami just erased?
???
I think this would have a lot to do with barry from the future as we knew it from the beggining. Considering most things, the original barry from the future seemed like he lost everyone including the people at star labs and was solo.
Imagine time travel didnt exist this show would've been over since season 1 😭
That's very doubtful. Even without time travel, there's still plenty of story to tell.
If time travel never existed , thawne would have never met his idol (the flash) , Barry's mother would still be alive (because thawne wouldn't kill her) , savitar would exist ( because he was created due to time travel) ,etc a lot of changes .
@@krishnachaitanya3439 tbh you could probably do RF without Time Travel
Loved this video! I have a what if idea: What if Cisco got his powers in season 1 rather than season 2
He did technically have his powers in season 1 but I get what you mean if he knew how to use them well and in early season one the entire series would be different
@@MrCosmic5 yeah
He did he just thought it was a dream
Maybe Ronnie wouldn’t die in the seperation due to him being able to catch Ronnie and then flash being able to catch stein
@@clementehernandez2621 perhaps
The writers keep retconning Barry’s speed, and it’s so annoying.
Yeah...
Yeah he goes from a guy who can out run a Nuke and lightning. To a guy who will just be lucky don't trip with his own legs.
Fr
Ikr that shit is annoying
Don’t know what retcon means but ok
What if 2024 Flash and Reverse Flash never went back in time to 2000 and Reverse Flash never killed Nora? So the first ever timeline was intact?
my question was always how did 2024 flash get his speed. barry got his speed from a lightning bold that struck his work office and that was only his work office because he became a csi to prove his dad’s innocence so if his mother never died he never becomes a csi and never gets struck by lightning therefore there is no flash you get me ?
What do you consider a successful launch of the particle accelerator?
@@juliuscallaway3473 my guess a kinda like firework show except goes out quicker and maybe no meta humans
All that still happened, the real wells accomplished his lifes dream and made the particle accelerator and Barry got stuck by ths lightning bolt which was from the speed force but just a different story later on.
Flash gets his speed another way
I've wanted this for so long but everyone just dies
Well the results of this Flash what if- Barry gets a promotion to captain, David, Joe, Catlin & Cisco die off, Barry gets Gideon & Barry also gets together with Iris along with Eddie Thawne turning into a version of Cobalt Blue for revenge & that also means Reverse Flash was never erased from existence.. So basically the timeline reverts back to "a version" of it's original *timeline 0's* self then now that i think about it.. 😕
I like the timeline you came up with better
A few things you missed comics - Snart wouldn't know Barry's identity because Cisco wouldn't be able to tell him that , snart and Rory wouldn't have their cold and heat gun because there is no Cisco , season 2 would be entirely different because Cisco helped confirm zoom' s identity etc
By the way - I would love to watch what if scenarios like this please make more🙏
The only thing i would change is have Caitlin become Killer Frost earlier, but more of anti-hero that wants to kill her enemies and Barry doesn't deal with her at first and due to that, she becomes more of a villain as the show goes on.
i could see them (with the scenario in this video) bringing her back at some point as Killer Frost. Like maybe Thawne kills her with some kinda icy pseudo science chemical, and in future seasons, Caitlin goes full Killer Frost
Plz just do part 2. This could be the coolest UA-cam series, I'd totally watch it
Since Caitlin would be long dead, she and Hunter would have never worked out the first velocity drugs. V9 would have a different name or it would even exist at all. Trajectory would be deleted, and Eliza Harmon would just be a scientist as always. Barry never finds Zoom’s identity
probably god speed would be get on screens later
Isn't zoom dying because he took V9 before hunting down barry? I forget. If I'm right though then (he is from earth 2 so maybe someone else invents V9 there) if Caitlin never invents V9, it doesn't exist, zoom doesn't get sick, zoom doesn't need barry's speed, barry never fights zoom. Then I guess it would just be savitar. next
@@jacobgrassmyer4673 no , time wraiths came and took him for fucking the time.
@@hidra8036 I'm talking about why zoom went after barry in the first place. It was to cure his disease caused by V9. So if V9 never exists you get what I'm saying.
@@jacobgrassmyer4673 Ya ya but v9 exists in earth 1 while jay in e2
I'd love to see how different season 2 would be in slight better detail, this is so far a very interesting turn for the show and I'd love to speculate about what could've happened.
I agree. I would have loved this version of the show!
Personally I think Thawne would convincingly lie his ass off so he wouldn't have to kill Caitlin. The video got one thing slightly wrong. Caitlin was in the process of telling Barry about Cisco's death, not him being R.F. If he'd knocked her over the head or something Thawne could have b.s'd his way out. And jsut said RF had kidnpaped him/inflitrated or something. He's pretty good at that.
This is actually one of my favorite like "what-if" scenarios about the flash
It's funny how "Out of time" is still the best episode of the Flash🤔
@Kenneth Peralta TF
@Kenneth Peralta I just like the theme and how fast he was running
@Kenneth Peralta tf
No
@Kenneth Peralta pathetic reason to love an episode
I really enjoyed this and always wanted a what if this was the original timeline barry( the one that has his mom and then has reverse flash kill her) so basically what if reverse flash never killed barry’s mom(or found out anything about him etc)
I would the original timeline would have more closer to the comics, because he probably wouldn't be working with star labs and more on his own.
What if reverse flash never became his enemy will barry won't be stuck in a paradox anymore so he'd save his mom no problem amd joim the justice league ealier.
@@knrz2562 that could be causing the loop I think about it he knows what eobard thawne becomes and he probably tried to stop it and make them more of a hero but it didn't work out because the same thing keeps repeating itself
In the original timeline nora still dies but it not by reverse flash it by a robber like comic version
@@knrz2562 don't you mean form the JL cause Batman technically retired in that timeline,Krypton never blew up,WW didn't leave Themysicira,Aquaman didn't get his powers,Green Lantern ring didn't crash into earth,etc,so that would leave two members left,that are The Green Arrow and The Flash
I love coming back and remind my self how interesting the show and community is.
I love this channel so much it's like game theory or film theory but specifically centered toward comics and superheroes. I love it.
Ayo, I did some math with Trajectory, and how fast you get from V9
Every time you take V9, you get a speed boost of 630 MPH
Trajectory took it 7-8 times, and her base speed stat was 1,350 MPH
After 8 doses of V9, it's 6,390 MPH, meaning her speed can rival Zoom, at 6,360 MPH or Mach 8.2
Keep in mind, I'm only counting the ones she took on screen, and how many Caitlin implied that Eliza took
By the way, I don't think 30 MPH is much of a difference as far as evaporating. Zoom is only 30 MPH slower than Trajectory, according to this. So I could be dead wrong, just wanted to throw this out there.
7:04 That's another problem with the show. They took out all the Rogues like Captain Cold, Heat Wave, Gorilla Grodd, Golden Glider and the others and put them on Legends of Tomorrow. That forced them to have every main villain apart from The Thinker and the Cicadas be speedsters.
I swear doc you could be a writer for the Flash
Ong at this point they are hiring middle schoolers that have a wattpad addiction
March of the oni
Me: **Clicks on a DC video**
Also me: **Immediately sees Marvel**
Dam it Barry!
Did anyone else notice The Flash theme in 8 bit in the background?
yep
I love this idea, and I hope you might do a part 2 to this what if.
Plus Catlin had enough time to get back to star labs from jitters so wells could have killed her so I think she would be left alive
I mean we don’t exactly know what happened to caitlin after that phone call with barry but Thawne in future seasons when Barry travelled back to Dr Wells/Eobard for help, Thawne literally told Barry if anything messes with his plan of getting back home he would kill the entire team including Barry without hesitation so caitlin in the original timeline being alive after that phone call and Thawne realizing caitlin was stalling him to keep him out of star labs....yea theres a 12.3 % chance caitlin would be alive but I highly doubt Thawne would just forget about her and let her live.
@Science edu Im pretty sure Thawne does know her location remember Thawne had futuristic cameras set up everywhere and knew where everyone was at, along with star labs motion detectors plus Thawne is not Barry at all. Thawne in season 1 was incredibly fast which was like 8 times faster because Thawne had the tachyon and the energy source charging from his chair I don’t think caitlin would be alive. If he was able to reach Cisco in a matter of seconds from caitlin looking away to grab coffee in jitters he would easily be able to do it with caitlin. I feel like your not giving Thawne enough credit tbh he is from the future so he knows everyone fates, he’s smart as hell because he was able to replicate the same accident Barry went through, And most of all he’s a speedster. Thawne doesn’t have a time wraiths coming after him because he knows what he’s doing, he literally has back up plans just in case they fail so im going to say Barry got lucky on this time travel stuff because if he didn’t Team flash would be ruined.
@Science edu yea but we gather intel on the character and we gotten a lot of face time from reverse flash in future seasons so people try their best to guess what decision they would make based off how much intel is on the character and past/future interactions with him it seems pretty simple cause thawne literally gave us the answer if Caitlin, Cisco, or Barry messed his plan up of getting home they all die. That was thawnes code throughout the seasons he appeared. Simple for me (Episode 2 x 17 if you wanted to see if yourself)
‘A pissed off barry always ends up wiping the floor with his enemy’ and yet they lock him in the pipeline so he can’t race zoom while pissed.
Every time I watch this channel it tells me something new about the flash
Hey, what if Barry did time travel to save his mom, and Thawne time travelled to his own time at the end of season 1 since thawne is likely repented at the time.
Season 3 flashpoint is your answer
You're welcome
Another good video would be
‘What if Barry travelled back in time, and was able to stop Corona-Virus by happening’ 😂
That intro never gets old
You deserve more than 200k, and while that's cliche I mean it
Your wish got granted lmfao
I’ve thought about this every now and then, I was thinking maybe Eddie becomes Cobalt Blue/Savitar in the timeline. Dope video!
That actually would have been a cool ending barry would've not need a team and the show would be about barry
It’s been 2 years but we need a whole series on this please it would be soooooook freaking awesome!
Definitely part two, this vid was fire.
Theory that you NEED to know
In season 3 before they meet HR and are fighting mirror master, harry says that mirror master on his earth is mccollogh, and he has a mirror gun thing
:OOO
Bro this is the first video I have seen from you and it is amazing definitely do a part 2. I’m subscribing
Yes I always asked my self this. Thank you bro
This would be actually pretty interesting.
I noticed how sometimes in season one when Barry runs he some times doesn’t have an lighting trail and that he just leaves an clear trail, can you possibly do an video on it?
When hes doing small movements it uses less speedforce energy and generates less lightning
bezeani88 well back when Barry saved Harrison wells from the lightning guy, he was running pretty fast that the lightning was moving slowly and he was not giving off an trail and to pull something like that must take up an lot of energy
@@trueflash4696 wdym moving slow? Like in slow motion?
bezeani88 yeah when flash runs time moves slowly to him, and lightning moves pretty fast, so flash would have to be going pretty fast and use up the speed force to have lightning move that slow to him, and yet he wasn’t giving off an lightning trail
It was cheaper for cw
I've wanted this vid for years.... Thank you so much
5:08 That music though! 🔥🔥
9:10 Everyone, including Barry says that he fights better when he's not angry but he clearly does
The vids are back baby let’s gooooo
The TVA will lock up Barry for not following the sacred timeline…Wait a minute
Ive been waiting for this forever😭
He goes from the fastest man alive to the slowest of molasses.
The CW Barry calling himself the fastest man alive is more like arrogant bragging than actual fact. Every evil speedster he's fought has been faster than him until the writers conveniently make him faster than them in the last few episodes of the season.
you're so close to 200k LETS GOOOO
Do another part, this video was great
now I wanna see you do a What If's for all of his time travel exploits. This was great!
The last 4 min of that episode is my favorite out of the whole series by far
Please for the love of Grodd do a part 2
for the love of grodd 😂😂😂
Let's get an episode where future Barry tells season1 Barry about the tidal wave and he stops it with future Barry's help and he starts working more independently and gets smarter to defeat Thawne after he had killed his friends.
This is also the episode where the by-line of the future news article changes to Iris. To me, the real indicator that it's a separate timeline and not just a pivot since Eobard would have noticed that it changed.
Love your content btw!
Yay your back with more flash stuff
If joe west is alive he would be able to help Barry defeat wells
Barry could of got help from Oliver & Ronnie
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@@giovannigiovanni.7220 lol
You should do one of these videos for each season
Looking forward to see more What If's on the channel Comics👌👌👌
AFTER SIX YEARS FINALLYYYYY
0:40 he messed it up one time
Yet everyone acts like he does it every five minutes
Which is incorrect
He doesn’t do it that much
Not as much as people think
There actually isn’t as much time travel in the show as there should be
What about the multiple times he tried to do it AGAIN in S3?.
Video idea/question: why is wallys speed still yellow and not orange
Sup my dude been watching for 1 or 2 years i love your Flash content its pretty much the only thing i watch on your channel keep doing what you're doing
Not gonna lie, but this timeline would be really cool to watch, like an episode dedicated to this.
I like the soundtrack you should use it more and if there’s one for reverse flash use that for his vids to
I'm kinda glad that was not the timeline they went with, so much great carakters would have died
I really want a show on the original Barry Allen (The flash) that appeared in the house that night and HIS challenges and the ORIGINAL timeline
Quentin Lance after chilling out a little bit from season 3 but before learning what Oliver actually thought of him. I've been trying to figure out how to articulate that for 4 years. And you nailed it in Eddie Thawne. Linda Park would feel rejected and the split would have been far less amicable. Eddie would have gotten pissed. But still called on the Flash. Actually, there's nothing to say he wouldn't do that anyway...if he didn't know Barry was the Flash his feelings of Flash wouldn't change.
Got a super speed problem? Put some time travel on it.
Who's here after he leaked it in his streams
Dude this is so trippy! Love ur vids!
Oh this seems like a cool concept. I haven't watched it yet, I'm gonna download the video to watch offline later.
But before killing Barry he would get him to open the wormhole
I would think that everything would go to the reverse flash’s Plan and that he would kill Barry and get home
if he kills barry he cant go home
He needs Barry to get home so this wouldn’t have happen
@@lunyolieny4463 yea
@@lunyolieny4463 for his speed because thawn is fast enough👍💪
@@vrsity no because thawne kill Barry mother so that mean that future Barry wouldn’t have been there save his younger self so flash wouldn’t have existed thawne wouldn’t never gotten speed to go back in time try to kill Barry so it just creates a paradox where Barry would have die but be still alive because thawne wouldn’t been there
New vid should be what if savitar did join team flash
man. u should definitely make a part 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 of this alternate timeline theory
Can you please make a video of what if Barry and Caitlin what will happen if they were a couple
This timeline seems so much better, but I might not ever get my boy Ralph
He could potentially still exist
How didn't I notice you uploaded?! I have notifications turned on! Great video as always Comics, you're an inspiration.
I loved this show so much I might actually watch it again
Love your vids ! Normally my comment gets buried down there 👇
I really want to see a part 2 to this
The city that Barry lives in is called « CENTRAL city » which probably means it’s in the center of « MO »
I started rewatching as we wait for season 7, the show feels much better.