Heck. I'll argue with all sorts of nonsense involving Ralph's mother. He wishes to be someone else instead of keeping a face that reminds him of his mother.
If you do get to Season 8, you must play the "Level Up" drinking game. Do a shot every time someone says they leveled up. Just don't blame me for your destroyed liver.
When I heard Barry say it the first time I was like "Ok, kinda cringe but alright" then they kept saying it was too many times and it just doesn't feel right.
godspeed is such a good villain in the comics, i hate the CW for butchering him in S7. They shouldve made him more comic accurate by adding him without speed and for working for CCPD after Crisis. So many opportunities to fix this show.
Honestly, based on what's mentioned in this video, I think the problem is the season was split up into too many stories. I can grant them the Mirror World stuff since they had to leave that unresolved due to COVID restrictions and all that (Side-Note: Can we stop freaking out every time a new strain comes out? There's nothing to indicate it's getting worse. Heck, things have basically been fine since the start of 2021 (Situations in Pakistan and Ukraine notwithstanding. Thanks, Brandon.)!). But as for the Forces stuff... That plot adds nothing to the overall story and could have easily been reduced or cut down to make way for more Godspeed buildup and development.
I agree. Make him like a Zoom, where he builds trust with Joe, Barry and the other cops, and them have them slowly realize it. Now, there are just random villains being thrown in for random reasons, not a great build up to a more powerful overarching villain.
The Chad comics Godspeed: *Has a compelling motive to do what he does, but goes very cuckoo for cocoa puffs on means to reach those ends. You know he has a heart somewhere under all of the villainry(you can even argue said heart is the engine behind his villainry). Ends up **_helping_** the heroes for a bit after his villain arc, cementing him firmly above a one-note antagonist. His way of tricking The Flash originally is as awesome as it is a bit loopy(he literally has to **_speedblitz The Flash_** to even have it work, but **_is successful_** for some time), so the plan is at worst a net neutral.* The virgin CW Godspeed: "The speed is mine!!!! 🤪" *[Clone noises] [Lightsaber noises]*
@@TF2Fan101 I agree with you, but a bit of advice on the internet, don’t bring what many would consider political into your argument because some people will immediately mark it as invalid.
Oh yes, finally. I gave up after Fuerza joining the team and every redeemed villain calling Barry and Iris their parents, so I was really looking forward to your reaction.
Having the speed force being a entity that takes a form is cool but once you make the speed force a actual character that can have emotions and a life just is weird and takes the whole idea of a universal force away
Watching Ross have a mental breakdown in the last few minutes of this video is both depressing and hilarious which I guess describes all his videos involving the flash.
I think season 6's first half is good, but his tenure as showrunner quickly went downhill during the Mirror Lady arc and has only got even worse in season 7.
The most annoying part (as a former fan of the show), is how much potential this season had at the start, as well as in several moments through the season, so many things that seemed to hint at other intresting things or felt like would have a satisfying conclusion, or concept that felt nuanced and complex but were later just dropped or simply resolved without any further exploration or elaboration. It was such a strong contrast to see a promising season that kept falling short constantly in a row, with the mid season finale being the worst showing of this in all of flash history for me. I feel bad for the actors because some of them really do as best as humanly possibly with what they've got, and I seriously hope to see them in other projects because whether it be the writers or showruner or whoever/whatever, whatever is happening behind the scenes, I don't think the writing is gonna recover to the point where it can re-gain my trust again. It'll have it's moments as always, it's solid first episode/episodes, it's false hopes, but they've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point not to be trust worthy.
The biggest question for me is - they have all those comics to take from, why they need their own storylines, when they can just pick the best of the best from the comics and call it a day.
I'd honestly give a pass to Zoom. They really did him dirty making him just another evil Speedster but on liquid meth and the black suit was definitely an improvement but comic Zoom would have been too OP for being introduced in season 2.
By the end of this video, when Ross looks at the camera, I'm reminded of an Adam Driver quote. Paraphrasing: "Alot of people think I hate having my picture taken and I do but that's because I look like I'm giving a cry for help"
I stopped watching The Flash right after the show started going on about "forgiveness" and "second chances" right after they fired Hartley Sawyer (Ralph Dibny) one week after they found tweets from years before he was even hired. Hypocrites.
I stopped watching when the forces of nature started calling Barry and Iris “mom” and “dad” especially considering all of them are their own people who have their own lives, also it was really fucking weird how the Speedforce all of sudden started to see Barry as a “father” even though when it first showed up it was still talking to him in the way a “mother” would. I honestly didn’t really care that Cisco left mainly due to the fact that in my opinion he’s being nothing but a whiny bitch for a while. It’s nice to know Frost’s little arc ended up not mattering in the slightest and she’s just “there” again, I don’t really care about Chester as a character he’s basically Cisco 2.0 so that makes him fine I guess but what made it worse for me was when Cisco and Chester shared a scene together as they were essentially the same guy.
@@BlackbirdRX the only thing I know about Season 8 is Joe whining to Barry and Iris about Thawne not only does he come off as a delusional hypocrite but he has leaves them with a ultimatum if they let Thawne die, apparently it will “destroy the family” or some other melodramatic nonsense.
Imma be real. I expected Ross and Grant TO DESTROY the lightsaber part, but they accepted it pretty well. I am now conerned at their level of mental instability and acceptance at the low bar towards the Flash. Also, I was slightly disappointed they didn't highlight Barry's speed feat towards Reverse Flash. But once again, ROSS AND GRANT DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!! I loved watching them go from a place of excitement to just misery. Quality content!
Thinking about it now I feel like the show just went in the wrong direction, most episodes you don't even remember the fact that Barry is a CSI. They could've done something in the same way Lucifer's plot lines work where you spend episodes actually investigating crimes and his speed helps in doing so and also fighting the villains in the end instead of all the side character drama and plots that lead nowhere.
I was quite the flash apologetic for a long time, but this season's writing reached a new all-time-low for me, and I merely stopped at the half-way point("forces" saga/arc), I can't imagine how I would've felt if I stayed for the GodSpeed stuff. but yea, it's really demoralizing how they kept building up my hopes only to waste potential again and deliver the most basic/lazy conclusion for some really awesome concepts and with some (dare I say) good and capable actors. I guess them firing Heartley Sawyer was the first sign of bad decisions to come.(cus yea, there were tweets that were more then 4 years old, jokes that have aged poorly but that was the point back in the day, he definitely had changed ever since and they didn't even warn him first or give him one pass even if he publicly apologized, which really makes the whole "redemption/second-chances" message of most of the flash feel extremely hypocritical and beyond dishonest now).
The Godspeed part has more redeeming qualities, but in the end Godspeed himself wasn't a good villain and there are lots of plots crammed there to compensate for COVID Restrictions™️.
@@bigcreator2084 But why cram so much stuff into a single season? Wouldn't Covid restrictions mean they could do less in a season? And speaking of Covid... Can we stop making such a big deal out of it now? Because if you look anywhere else besides the areas where people are saying the virus is bad, the virus isn't that big a deal anymore.
I still remember when season 3 was going on and I thought it was great compared to other shows that I had watched especially when Barry went into the speed force I was freaking out the entire time. However, season 4 picked up and became the worst season for me. I feel like if we had the mystery of who the villain actually is again it could help bring some form of excitement back to the show plus no more talking to the villain or at least nowhere near as much that it has happened.
Frankly, I stopped watching all the 'Arrow-verse' shows after 'Crisis on Infinite Earths', it just felt like the end of the franchise to me. I wonder: Now that it seems Ezra Miller may be too much of a trouble maker to keep on as The Flash, could they pull some "Multiverse of Madness" hijinks to replace him with the REAL Flash, Grant Gustin's version? ^_^
That’s a problem with modern day franchises : they don’t know when to end. I feel the same about the MCU after endgame : everything feels like one big ass post credit scene that never ends.
@@endangeredspecies8441 True. To this day I haven't seen Spider-Man: Far From Home. If it weren't for the Covid imposed wait between movies, I wold have lost interest altogether, but I did watch WandaVision, and that got me interested in Marvel again (and still only went out to see the next Spider-Man movie, I waited for any others on Disney+)
when the whole frost storyline was going on, i was genuinely convinced that frost was going to prison because kramer was forming task force x and needed more man power and im kinda mad because that's such a better idea than what actually happened
I love watching these. I gave up on The Flash after Barry got really into wanting to have his foster sister as a girlfriend. I don't care if it's fine, I think any relationship where the girl could call me her brother and mean it, is too weird for me to keep watching it unfold. Your reviews keep reminding me of all the time I haven't wasted. Thank you for that.
Thank you thank you thank you. There are MANY reasons the show went downhill, but it still boggles my mind how they keep going through with the whole Barry x Iris thing after establishing them as a foster family. I do not care about "they're not blood-related" because that throws out the family relations of MANY people and only leads to a road downhill. I forget exactly how Barry and Iris' family relationship as kids was portrayed in the show, but I got the feeling that Barry always saw Iris' dad as his dad too. I guess the writers got themselves too deep in, what with Iris being an actual character in the comics, and the cast suddenly going "Wait, isn't this really weird?" would make the people who like the relationship REAL angry.
Except they were never brother and sister He had a crush on her before he moved in with them and boys and girls tend to keep a certain distance. Also went to college at 18. They were friends through childhood not siblings
I respect you for getting this far with the Flash. I started losing interest after they spent the whole of season 3 trying to convince us that Savitar wasn't Barry only for him to end up being Barry. S4 was utterly forgettable and I couldn't get passed the first few episodes of s5.
Actually you are wrong about season 3. They gave you clues through out different episodes about who Savitar was. Like when they had the guybin the chair and used him as a link to talk to Savitar. He said he was the future flash, he pointed out things about everyone else as well. Always knowing exactly what team Flash is gonna do, the fact that killer frost trusted him enough to go with him right away. You just had to pay attention to what was being said.
It’s crazy how far this show has fallen, sure the first 2 seasons aren’t masterpieces and they certainly have their own issues but good lord this show is unwatchable at this point, and it seems like they’ve just completely run out of ideas
Wow there’s one thing that i thought you guys would rip into and laugh at incredibly hard is the Godspeed Scooby doo villain voice and catchphrases! “Tag your dead”, “infinite velocity will soon be mine” and who could forget “wow flash, that was nuts, so you do like to party” might be the best villain lines I have ever seen and heard
I love this new format where the two of you talk about each individual episode in order. I stopped watching after this season myself. But if you make a season 8 video, I’ll watch it to join in on the fun
You guys need to watch Superman and Lois. Currently airing its second season so now is the best time to watch season 1 which only has 15 episodes. It’s hands down the best CW show and even though that statement doesn’t mean much believe me when I say that it is truly worth a watch so I hope you guys eventually give it a chance
Thank you for finishing this season so that I didn't have to. (The timeless episode was so stupid that it finally broke me, and I couldn't watch anymore after that 😕)
19:06 “I don’t know if these other forces are a thing in the comments…” Me:”Oh well actually-“ “And I actually don’t care” Me:”Okay but maybe he’d love to know that….” “And if I read one comment about it I’ll be very angry” Me:”Oh…..”😔
imagine nothaving the creativity to write a single good season of a pre existing xharacter with decades of comics behind him, now imagine having to write seven seasons
15:44 Even if we disregard the fact that, that's not at all how brains work that still doesn't explain the blood on the emblem because if it's truly just his brain creating the stab than the blood should only be on the inside of the suit.
Man, I jumped ship after the season 3 premiere after they just rushed through Flashpoint in a single episode. It's sad that there was really only one great season of this show, which was the first one.
I’m 31…when I was 16 me and my friend were so excited to hear the flash was getting a show in the coming years….the flash was my favorite character back then. To see where we’re at now with this show and the DC universe flash, man….I wish I could go back in time and tell myself not to get invested emotionally.
I haven’t watched The Flash since season 4 but I have very similar thoughts about The Flash and Arrow. The first two seasons are great. An underrated third season. The fourth season is a step backward but something I find enjoyable overall. I didn’t fall off because of the quality but I just didn’t have the time to keep investing in the shows. It’s kinda sad for me to see that this show has gone downhill.
Psyche could have just stabbed Barry outside of the nightmare and he'd still get stabbed, brain tricking him or not, why not use the time they're hallucinating to kill them?
Listen, I am a huge Flash fan and always will be, but even I could barely get through season 7. It was just terrible, there's no defending it. I know it doesn't really amount to anything, but I am currently watching season 8 and its definitely an improvement over the last 2 seasons and actually seems like it has potential. Yes I know we said the same thing about the beginning of season 7, but I still have some hope left. I really wish that by the end of season 8, some light will be restored for the love I have for this show, as well as other people.
A show I LOVED in the 1st 3 seasons, now I find unwatchable...I see the CW has a very strong habit of running shows way past the expiration date. ARROW, FLASH, SUPERNATURAL, SUPERGIRL, LEGENDS OF TOMORROW...All shows I loved in the beginning, I MEAN LOVED (well SUPERGIRL I tolerated until the 3rd season), but all went downhill after the 3rd season. I see it coming for SUPERMAN & LOIS, honestly, why is BATWOMAN even still on??? IT'S IN IT'S 3RD SEASON...Is someone watching that shit? At least BLACK LIGHTNING was smart enough to call it quits, cause that show was going downhill fast.
@@TheAntiSanta Hahahaha, everything after 3 was what was trash. Everything before it was good or at least decent, seasons 4 onward is nothing but a shitty kids show.
1:04:40 Crisis reset the multiverse, and created another infinite amount of Earth's. It just compressed some of the CW shows which took place in separate universes onto Earth Prime (Supergirl and Black Lightning), and they lost the ability to traverse the multiverse because multiversal physics as they understood it changed. The people on Earth Prime don't know the multiverse still exists (except they probably do by know because when you run out of ideas you re-use old ones, I haven't watched any CW shows post crisis, I just know how crisis worked.) There are still infinite universes and dopplegangers. Earth 2 is Star Girl, Earth 666 is Lucifer, Earth 7 is Titans, Earth 23 is Doom Patrol (I guesstimated the last two numbers, I'm not looking on a wiki, the number doesn't matter) The bullshit here is that Jay Garrick can travel from his universe to this one when physics has changed and the speed force can't enable multiversal travel. But that's an easy handwave excuse away from fixing, especially since there's a new speedforce so you just say that one can travel the multiverse again.
@@capeto08 I’m aware of what Batwoman highlighted, I know doppelgängers cannot exist as long there’s another still there, but The Flash shows us that Jay Garrick lives on Earth Prime, he’s not from an alternate earth. We just have to accept that that’s what the show and the writers decided to do.
Not to turn this into a debate, but I guess them firing Hartley Sawyer was the first sign of terrible decisions to come. (cus yea, it was a terrible move from their part that seemed to appease the fans that are only into witch-hunting, the tweets were more then 4 years old, jokes that have aged really poorly, yes, but that was the point back in the day similar to many other comedians who wanted to defy the limits and/or get attention, same with James Gun. the thing about Hartley is that he definitely had changed ever since then, and they didn't even warn him first or give him one pass, even tho he publicly apologized, which really makes the whole "redemption/second-chances" message of most of the flash feel so extremely hypocritical and beyond dishonest now).
Yeah, the entire point of his character is redemption and turning into a hero and then they completely obliterate his character/actor for some edgy joke tweets he made before he was even on the show. The show completely died for me then.
I’m just annoyed with how the show went since season 2 the quality of story and direction and writing really deeply hurt this show and went downhill grant gustin deserved much better as the flash he completely got ruined after season 2 became a background character had no growth as a character and in his abilities a joke of hero that couldn’t defend him self with or without his speed needed a team always i his ear telling him what to do the “we are the flash” bs Savitar storyline was shit now in season 8 they finally give him Some growth and now it ends in season 9 ?? Grant deserved better so did Candice Patton
That Ralph goodbye was so pathetic, the CW seriously couldn't have Hartley Sawyer come in for ONE scene to say a goodbye, I couldn't believe what they did, I was honestly laughing thinking "this is what you guys do?!"
Thanks for watching the show for me, haven't seen season 6-7, but have enjoyed your summary, so I don't need to watch it - please do season 8 at some point :D
The reason this season made me fully give up on the show was because i really liked Ralph and not only did they have him leave the show, but they weren’t even respectful about it
@@bloodyneptune yeah, but he said those things a decade ago and it seems as though he had really changed. It felt so hypocritical because the flash is about how every bad person can change and be good and yet the kicked of a main character because of something he did a decade ago, because they wanted the good publicity.
@@Xehanort10 - Damn, I didn't know about that, and after checking it out... oof. She's lucky to be a black female in a leading role, had she been a white male in a smaller role she would have been kicked out instead of being protected by the CW. From what I read in a Reddit thread about this mess, the CW: *"told Candice to delete the most offensive tweets, told her to stay off social medial for a few weeks and have the CW_ Flash account block users when they are tagged in this twitter thread. They telling you nothing is going to happen. Candice is good friends with Suzanne Gomez who is the publicist for the Flash, they are already handling it so this situation doesnt gain traction."* Then she has the nerve to complain that the CW didn't do enough to protect her from fans at the start, when her casting caused "racist trolls" to complain because another ginger character was blackwashed #redheaderasure The Arrowverse does it a lot, with redheads Jimmy Olsen & Hawkgirl becoming black too... It's not a huge deal, but it would be nice to have a ginger or 2 around; ya know, to diversify the background and all. Red lives matter!
Whats with the flash tv show and adapting things so soon? Godspeed, Bloodwork and the different Forces were introduced in the booms like a year each before their introduction in the show.
Knowing about lightsaber fight and waiting for him to get to lightsaber fights in this video is the best gift "I feel this season is just fine as s6 was" hang on dood, it's coming 😄
I haven’t watched season 8 yet, but it seems like a very polarizing season. Some people are saying it is like season 1 and 2. Others are saying it’s just has bad as season 7.
Notice that once Iris birthed the new Nora Spreedforce, Nora SF became petty, clingy to Barry and a control freak. In other words, she acted like how fans see Iris, just turned up a notch.
Reverse Flash doesn’t use the Speed Force. He uses some synthetic one. The show said that itself so how does Nora affect him? Unless something changed in the several seasons I’ve not been watching
The thing is I know that season 3 was the beginning of the downfall but Erik Wallace is the guy that actually ruined the show he came onto the show as a main writer on season 4 onwards, he can't write or at least he can't write good for long periods of time and idk how he's still got his job because I can confidently say that the show would be way better than it currently is without him
For me season 2 was my favourite, season 1 was great and season 3 was good. After that they had a few good episodes like flash time but it's consistently bad. It's a shame honestly
This is a cry for help.
Someone just end the show Now. Forget about the rest of season 8 and 9, this man needs to stop suffering
The only reason I still watch this show is because once I start a show I need to finish it.
@@thecringeexterminationservice sameeee
@@thecringeexterminationservice exactly 😭
@@thecringeexterminationservice on god bro im too deep to quit when the finish line is just over the horizon
The funny thing is that Ralph liiiiiiiiiterally has the ability to shapeshift, so recasting the actor was never a problem.
Heck. I'll argue with all sorts of nonsense involving Ralph's mother. He wishes to be someone else instead of keeping a face that reminds him of his mother.
It's pretty damn sad that literally none of the writers thought of doing that.
I love how Iris says "Let's start a family.", like it was some badass one-liner, seriously TF?!😂😂
Well this is the same character who thinks being married to The Flash makes her Flash too after all.
@@Xehanort10 Are we really still on that? That was like three seasons ago.
@@Xehanort10 Let it GO dude.
@@Xehanort10 She does keep catching the Speedforce like it's an STD that keeps breaking out.
yeah like you're asking him to clap your cheeks at super speed what's badass about that
We understand exactly what you're going through, but Season 8 will go onto Netflix eventually
i can watch it on Netflix
Yeah I can watch flash on Netflix
Netflix have season 7 ? I can only watch season 1-6
@@benchui580 it also has 8
@@benchui580 it’s all country based I don’t know I live in Canada and I get each new episode on Friday 2 days after it airs on tv which is Wednesday
If you do get to Season 8, you must play the "Level Up" drinking game. Do a shot every time someone says they leveled up.
Just don't blame me for your destroyed liver.
The worst part about this is that it's still happening 10 episodes in
And "cryokinetic signature" recently
When I heard Barry say it the first time I was like "Ok, kinda cringe but alright" then they kept saying it was too many times and it just doesn't feel right.
I'm sorry, but what on earth is "leveling up" supposed to mean in the context of season 8, and why is it said so many times LMAO
@@hollykm their powers are getting stronger lol
Timestamps for each episode’s review:
0:36 - Episode 1
3:47 - Episode 2
7:06 - Episode 3
11:36 - Episode 4
13:51 - Episode 5
17:58 - Episode 6
20:38 - Episode 7
23:41 - Episode 8
29:25 - Episode 9
32:32 - Episode 10
36:02 - Episode 11
41:14 - Episode 12
46:05 - Episode 13
49:42 - Episode 14
53:50 - Episode 15
56:41 - Episode 16
1:01:48 - Episode 17
1:05:52 - Episode 18 & Ross’s pain
I love how by this point Barry is basically a god and the show just keeps going for 20 episodes a season.
Barry still technically explainable... Explain how iris is also like a god?
@@yugiwinninglex kind of it seems her power only works in time of need for Barry Allen
@Thomas B It's the cw way bro, you wouldn't understand.
I don't think powerless robbers would escape a god by just running down the street.
godspeed is such a good villain in the comics, i hate the CW for butchering him in S7. They shouldve made him more comic accurate by adding him without speed and for working for CCPD after Crisis. So many opportunities to fix this show.
Honestly, based on what's mentioned in this video, I think the problem is the season was split up into too many stories. I can grant them the Mirror World stuff since they had to leave that unresolved due to COVID restrictions and all that (Side-Note: Can we stop freaking out every time a new strain comes out? There's nothing to indicate it's getting worse. Heck, things have basically been fine since the start of 2021 (Situations in Pakistan and Ukraine notwithstanding. Thanks, Brandon.)!). But as for the Forces stuff... That plot adds nothing to the overall story and could have easily been reduced or cut down to make way for more Godspeed buildup and development.
I agree. Make him like a Zoom, where he builds trust with Joe, Barry and the other cops, and them have them slowly realize it. Now, there are just random villains being thrown in for random reasons, not a great build up to a more powerful overarching villain.
Actually godspd cld have Neen a interesting Villian until the end wer they said his motivation is more spd...
The Chad comics Godspeed: *Has a compelling motive to do what he does, but goes very cuckoo for cocoa puffs on means to reach those ends. You know he has a heart somewhere under all of the villainry(you can even argue said heart is the engine behind his villainry). Ends up **_helping_** the heroes for a bit after his villain arc, cementing him firmly above a one-note antagonist. His way of tricking The Flash originally is as awesome as it is a bit loopy(he literally has to **_speedblitz The Flash_** to even have it work, but **_is successful_** for some time), so the plan is at worst a net neutral.*
The virgin CW Godspeed: "The speed is mine!!!! 🤪" *[Clone noises] [Lightsaber noises]*
@@TF2Fan101 I agree with you, but a bit of advice on the internet, don’t bring what many would consider political into your argument because some people will immediately mark it as invalid.
1:54 Iris nobody's afraid of you except Barry. They give her lines like that and think they're badass somehow.
Honestly there probs is a write that just love this/hsi version of Iris so he keeps giving her these cringe moments
it seems like they think the only way to empower iris is to undermine Barry 😒
They hold onto Wells as a side character more than they should. They've rewritten his death like 3 times. LET THE MAN REST😂😂🤣
Or LIVE
Oh yes, finally. I gave up after Fuerza joining the team and every redeemed villain calling Barry and Iris their parents, so I was really looking forward to your reaction.
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It took me to season 8 to finally give up
Lol, i gave up after the forces arc too. Them pretending to be a family was just blech.
Bad guys in the show can be redeemed, but they don't feel that the Ralph actor can be redeemed.
gave up on season 3 lmao its fun to see people torturing themselves through the later seasons
The Flash used to make me happy to watch it with my Dad, now I watch it and I just get sad.
Same man. Dad introduced me to the shows. He’s the reason I watched it for years. Such a disappointment
@@DktaJ2021 same for tvd, first 2.8 seasons are good the rest is crap
Having the speed force being a entity that takes a form is cool but once you make the speed force a actual character that can have emotions and a life just is weird and takes the whole idea of a universal force away
Legends of Tomorrow is basically the only show in the Arrowverse that's allowed to have fun
it got cancelled
@@eloii its not cancelled it just hasnt been renewed
@@supermanfan3113 its not been renewed after a month definitely dead
It wasnt renewed and had a lot of seasons. Its better to end a long as its good.
@@marocat4749 plus they hired Turk as Booster Gold. Which is a horrible miscast.
Watching Ross have a mental breakdown in the last few minutes of this video is both depressing and hilarious which I guess describes all his videos involving the flash.
I just got the equivalent of 400$ and 4 points on my license, Ah yes this is exactly the kinda video I needed right now to project my hatred!😂☕
Better luck next time
L * rario
Damn bro
I’m sorry, but wasn’t Eric Wallace supposed to make this show BETTER when he was hired as showrunner?
He’s literally done nothing but ruin the show since he joined during S4
He literally said that he's not interested in telling stories about Barry
@@bradgamble131 Didn't he join in season 6?
@@nathanieldiaz5254 nah he joined as a writer on season 4. Season 6 he became the show runner
I think season 6's first half is good, but his tenure as showrunner quickly went downhill during the Mirror Lady arc and has only got even worse in season 7.
The most annoying part (as a former fan of the show), is how much potential this season had at the start, as well as in several moments through the season, so many things that seemed to hint at other intresting things or felt like would have a satisfying conclusion, or concept that felt nuanced and complex but were later just dropped or simply resolved without any further exploration or elaboration. It was such a strong contrast to see a promising season that kept falling short constantly in a row, with the mid season finale being the worst showing of this in all of flash history for me.
I feel bad for the actors because some of them really do as best as humanly possibly with what they've got, and I seriously hope to see them in other projects because whether it be the writers or showruner or whoever/whatever, whatever is happening behind the scenes, I don't think the writing is gonna recover to the point where it can re-gain my trust again. It'll have it's moments as always, it's solid first episode/episodes, it's false hopes, but they've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point not to be trust worthy.
The biggest question for me is - they have all those comics to take from, why they need their own storylines, when they can just pick the best of the best from the comics and call it a day.
sometimes, the lazier, the better.
I'd honestly give a pass to Zoom. They really did him dirty making him just another evil Speedster but on liquid meth and the black suit was definitely an improvement but comic Zoom would have been too OP for being introduced in season 2.
By the end of this video, when Ross looks at the camera, I'm reminded of an Adam Driver quote. Paraphrasing: "Alot of people think I hate having my picture taken and I do but that's because I look like I'm giving a cry for help"
I stopped watching The Flash right after the show started going on about "forgiveness" and "second chances" right after they fired Hartley Sawyer (Ralph Dibny) one week after they found tweets from years before he was even hired. Hypocrites.
That's how these people operate. Idk why you're surprised
@@timgonzales2891
Probably... trying to give them a chance.
I stopped midway season 4
Same
@@mattmurdoch6720 same but decided to suffer and try it out and catch up to season 8. Skipped season 6 except crisis and currently on 8
I stopped watching when the forces of nature started calling Barry and Iris “mom” and “dad” especially considering all of them are their own people who have their own lives, also it was really fucking weird how the Speedforce all of sudden started to see Barry as a “father” even though when it first showed up it was still talking to him in the way a “mother” would.
I honestly didn’t really care that Cisco left mainly due to the fact that in my opinion he’s being nothing but a whiny bitch for a while.
It’s nice to know Frost’s little arc ended up not mattering in the slightest and she’s just “there” again,
I don’t really care about Chester as a character he’s basically Cisco 2.0 so that makes him fine I guess but what made it worse for me was when Cisco and Chester shared a scene together as they were essentially the same guy.
s8 is great
Yea I stopped right after the season 6 arc
@@BlackbirdRX the only thing I know about Season 8 is Joe whining to Barry and Iris about Thawne not only does he come off as a delusional hypocrite but he has leaves them with a ultimatum if they let Thawne die, apparently it will “destroy the family” or some other melodramatic nonsense.
@@thomasraines1396 s8 has had 0 bad episodes so far
@@nathanmonka5958 mistake
“blood is a liquid” so that’s why i’m failing biology thanks for clarifying that
Blink twice if CW has you at gunpoint to make you keep going
Imma be real. I expected Ross and Grant TO DESTROY the lightsaber part, but they accepted it pretty well. I am now conerned at their level of mental instability and acceptance at the low bar towards the Flash.
Also, I was slightly disappointed they didn't highlight Barry's speed feat towards Reverse Flash.
But once again, ROSS AND GRANT DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!! I loved watching them go from a place of excitement to just misery. Quality content!
Im foncerned that extended exposure to cw shows in the teen years has permanently altered their understanding of media
Thinking about it now I feel like the show just went in the wrong direction, most episodes you don't even remember the fact that Barry is a CSI. They could've done something in the same way Lucifer's plot lines work where you spend episodes actually investigating crimes and his speed helps in doing so and also fighting the villains in the end instead of all the side character drama and plots that lead nowhere.
"News Flash, Flash. You're on The Flash." is my new favorite quote
I was quite the flash apologetic for a long time, but this season's writing reached a new all-time-low for me, and I merely stopped at the half-way point("forces" saga/arc), I can't imagine how I would've felt if I stayed for the GodSpeed stuff.
but yea, it's really demoralizing how they kept building up my hopes only to waste potential again and deliver the most basic/lazy conclusion for some really awesome concepts and with some (dare I say) good and capable actors.
I guess them firing Heartley Sawyer was the first sign of bad decisions to come.(cus yea, there were tweets that were more then 4 years old, jokes that have aged poorly but that was the point back in the day, he definitely had changed ever since and they didn't even warn him first or give him one pass even if he publicly apologized, which really makes the whole "redemption/second-chances" message of most of the flash feel extremely hypocritical and beyond dishonest now).
Season 8 was good
The Godspeed part has more redeeming qualities, but in the end Godspeed himself wasn't a good villain and there are lots of plots crammed there to compensate for COVID Restrictions™️.
@@bigcreator2084 But why cram so much stuff into a single season? Wouldn't Covid restrictions mean they could do less in a season?
And speaking of Covid... Can we stop making such a big deal out of it now? Because if you look anywhere else besides the areas where people are saying the virus is bad, the virus isn't that big a deal anymore.
@@ThePandaaa yes that's true season 8 is a massive step forward, they must have listened to the fans because season 7 was horrible
I still defend season 1 as "good tv" but the decline happens fast.
Some say Joe and Cecile's non-existant child is still laying on it's non-existant crib till this day.
And we thought season 3 was bad
and season 4
Loved season 3
I still remember when season 3 was going on and I thought it was great compared to other shows that I had watched especially when Barry went into the speed force I was freaking out the entire time. However, season 4 picked up and became the worst season for me. I feel like if we had the mystery of who the villain actually is again it could help bring some form of excitement back to the show plus no more talking to the villain or at least nowhere near as much that it has happened.
I really liked the first 2 Episodes. Mainly because they gave Grant a lot of Emotions to play and it was more focused.
I feel like you've gone so far past the point of misery, that you've gone past infinity and circled back around to enjoying it. My condolences.
I can’t believe you watched the entire season back to back sober. You guys are the real heroes
You are so right! Tom Cavanagh can truly act (so can Grant and a couple of the other actors from season 1 and 2)
I discovered this channel today and finished the stuff on the CW about 1 hour ago and got pissed there wasn't anymore CW stuff
Frankly, I stopped watching all the 'Arrow-verse' shows after 'Crisis on Infinite Earths', it just felt like the end of the franchise to me.
I wonder: Now that it seems Ezra Miller may be too much of a trouble maker to keep on as The Flash, could they pull some "Multiverse of Madness" hijinks to replace him with the REAL Flash, Grant Gustin's version? ^_^
That’s a problem with modern day franchises : they don’t know when to end. I feel the same about the MCU after endgame : everything feels like one big ass post credit scene that never ends.
@@endangeredspecies8441 True. To this day I haven't seen Spider-Man: Far From Home. If it weren't for the Covid imposed wait between movies, I wold have lost interest altogether, but I did watch WandaVision, and that got me interested in Marvel again (and still only went out to see the next Spider-Man movie, I waited for any others on Disney+)
yeah. Would be super easy and probably the one to get the most hype.
when the whole frost storyline was going on, i was genuinely convinced that frost was going to prison because kramer was forming task force x and needed more man power and im kinda mad because that's such a better idea than what actually happened
True, her being the flashs cheap amanda waller would maker her more fun.
@@marocat4749 also considering the real amanda waller is canonically dead
that's so good. And they could do a mini arc with task force x vs team flash.
I love watching these. I gave up on The Flash after Barry got really into wanting to have his foster sister as a girlfriend. I don't care if it's fine, I think any relationship where the girl could call me her brother and mean it, is too weird for me to keep watching it unfold. Your reviews keep reminding me of all the time I haven't wasted. Thank you for that.
Thank you thank you thank you. There are MANY reasons the show went downhill, but it still boggles my mind how they keep going through with the whole Barry x Iris thing after establishing them as a foster family. I do not care about "they're not blood-related" because that throws out the family relations of MANY people and only leads to a road downhill. I forget exactly how Barry and Iris' family relationship as kids was portrayed in the show, but I got the feeling that Barry always saw Iris' dad as his dad too.
I guess the writers got themselves too deep in, what with Iris being an actual character in the comics, and the cast suddenly going "Wait, isn't this really weird?" would make the people who like the relationship REAL angry.
"What are you doing step-flash?~"
I don’t get why they couldn’t have Joe be Iris’ uncle who took her in too. It would’ve made the relationship much better hoenstly
Except they were never brother and sister
He had a crush on her before he moved in with them and boys and girls tend to keep a certain distance. Also went to college at 18.
They were friends through childhood not siblings
@@Mainlyeverything I don't consider them real siblings, but it's not like having them grow together was a terrible idea.
When you realize that every major conflict in this show is solved by some form of Barry running in a circle
I respect you for getting this far with the Flash. I started losing interest after they spent the whole of season 3 trying to convince us that Savitar wasn't Barry only for him to end up being Barry. S4 was utterly forgettable and I couldn't get passed the first few episodes of s5.
Actually you are wrong about season 3.
They gave you clues through out different episodes about who Savitar was.
Like when they had the guybin the chair and used him as a link to talk to Savitar. He said he was the future flash, he pointed out things about everyone else as well. Always knowing exactly what team Flash is gonna do, the fact that killer frost trusted him enough to go with him right away.
You just had to pay attention to what was being said.
@@lordvika2526 I knew he was Savitar, the story was just shit
It’s crazy how far this show has fallen, sure the first 2 seasons aren’t masterpieces and they certainly have their own issues but good lord this show is unwatchable at this point, and it seems like they’ve just completely run out of ideas
The most important thing i got from this video is that Ross just like all of us had the Bionicle dream
I love how you guys remained a bit optimistic, then the Godspeed plot hits center stage, and everything just confuses everyone 😂😂😂
Wow there’s one thing that i thought you guys would rip into and laugh at incredibly hard is the Godspeed Scooby doo villain voice and catchphrases!
“Tag your dead”, “infinite velocity will soon be mine” and who could forget “wow flash, that was nuts, so you do like to party” might be the best villain lines I have ever seen and heard
Didn’t he say “come home to daddy” too?
You guys should like…watch season 8 when it comes out on Netflix
Haven't they suffered enough ?
@@franciscorui season 8 is a lot better then the previous one
@@BrendelMank that's not a difficult task.
@@franciscorui you will see tad bit improvement but then again like you said its not a difficult task .
It’s sucks to
I love this new format where the two of you talk about each individual episode in order. I stopped watching after this season myself. But if you make a season 8 video, I’ll watch it to join in on the fun
Grant's dead baby theory still hasn't been debunked and it makes the show a million times more fun to watch any time the baby comes up xD
"idk if thats implying there's more speedsters? Who knows, its not going to be that its going to be something stupider"
Oh boy..
You guys need to watch Superman and Lois. Currently airing its second season so now is the best time to watch season 1 which only has 15 episodes. It’s hands down the best CW show and even though that statement doesn’t mean much believe me when I say that it is truly worth a watch so I hope you guys eventually give it a chance
S1 is so fucking good
@@Skyewardbound eh
I think Stargirl is a decent show as well.
Yeah Stargirl needs more attention as well
How's season 2 tho, im hesitant to start on that
Thank you for finishing this season so that I didn't have to.
(The timeless episode was so stupid that it finally broke me, and I couldn't watch anymore after that 😕)
19:06
“I don’t know if these other forces are a thing in the comments…”
Me:”Oh well actually-“
“And I actually don’t care”
Me:”Okay but maybe he’d love to know that….”
“And if I read one comment about it I’ll be very angry”
Me:”Oh…..”😔
I’ll even go as far to say season 5 was interesting, with Nora going back and forth in time to Thawne then to Barry. Right after that I was done.
imagine nothaving the creativity to write a single good season of a pre existing xharacter with decades of comics behind him, now imagine having to write seven seasons
Well they changed writers at one point.
15:44 Even if we disregard the fact that, that's not at all how brains work that still doesn't explain the blood on the emblem because if it's truly just his brain creating the stab than the blood should only be on the inside of the suit.
Man, I jumped ship after the season 3 premiere after they just rushed through Flashpoint in a single episode. It's sad that there was really only one great season of this show, which was the first one.
The first half of season 2 was good
Season 2 was just as good as the first one and S3 overall was good(but true, they fucked up Flashpoint)
In the final episode of the season, you've got every member of the Flash-family! Except Wally, Wally's just... gone? I guess?
I’m 31…when I was 16 me and my friend were so excited to hear the flash was getting a show in the coming years….the flash was my favorite character back then. To see where we’re at now with this show and the DC universe flash, man….I wish I could go back in time and tell myself not to get invested emotionally.
I haven’t watched The Flash since season 4 but I have very similar thoughts about The Flash and Arrow. The first two seasons are great. An underrated third season. The fourth season is a step backward but something I find enjoyable overall.
I didn’t fall off because of the quality but I just didn’t have the time to keep investing in the shows. It’s kinda sad for me to see that this show has gone downhill.
Arrow recovered quite drastically after S4 though.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf True. I liked Season 5 a lot. The last of Arrow I’ve seen was Season 6.
Season 6 - 7 was a NIGHTMARE to watch
Bloodwork was dope, menacing and compelling - id have take him again over speed nora any time so i didn't totally hate season 6 myself.
@@skodedickinson6544 phucc nah he ain't
I like how the Grant’s hairstyle becomes more insane after another Flash season review….
17:29 Yeah, making a concept of reality into a physical character... is weird. She's basically a lowercase god, or it was until season 7
This show is doing a number on his mental stability...
We should demand he react to the next one 😃
2014 Flash Fan: ua-cam.com/video/gLWocyWOOCE/v-deo.html
1:11:02 He’s finally broken
I can't wait for you to do season 8
I love when Wells sacrificed himself for the speed force and then like two episodes later they just had to get rid of it for no reason 💀
Psyche could have just stabbed Barry outside of the nightmare and he'd still get stabbed, brain tricking him or not, why not use the time they're hallucinating to kill them?
Listen, I am a huge Flash fan and always will be, but even I could barely get through season 7. It was just terrible, there's no defending it. I know it doesn't really amount to anything, but I am currently watching season 8 and its definitely an improvement over the last 2 seasons and actually seems like it has potential. Yes I know we said the same thing about the beginning of season 7, but I still have some hope left. I really wish that by the end of season 8, some light will be restored for the love I have for this show, as well as other people.
A show I LOVED in the 1st 3 seasons, now I find unwatchable...I see the CW has a very strong habit of running shows way past the expiration date. ARROW, FLASH, SUPERNATURAL, SUPERGIRL, LEGENDS OF TOMORROW...All shows I loved in the beginning, I MEAN LOVED (well SUPERGIRL I tolerated until the 3rd season), but all went downhill after the 3rd season. I see it coming for SUPERMAN & LOIS, honestly, why is BATWOMAN even still on??? IT'S IN IT'S 3RD SEASON...Is someone watching that shit?
At least BLACK LIGHTNING was smart enough to call it quits, cause that show was going downhill fast.
What the hell talking about? Legends of Tomorrow didn't become watchable till the 4th season. Everything before that was trash.
maybe they should sell the arrowverse to another studio
@@TheAntiSanta if you find that show watchable...too each his/her own, glad u enjoy it.
@@TheAntiSanta nah legends don’t even make sense lol
@@TheAntiSanta Hahahaha, everything after 3 was what was trash. Everything before it was good or at least decent, seasons 4 onward is nothing but a shitty kids show.
39:48 That killed my brain. I honestly don’t give a shit about Frost after that
1:04:40
Crisis reset the multiverse, and created another infinite amount of Earth's. It just compressed some of the CW shows which took place in separate universes onto Earth Prime (Supergirl and Black Lightning), and they lost the ability to traverse the multiverse because multiversal physics as they understood it changed. The people on Earth Prime don't know the multiverse still exists (except they probably do by know because when you run out of ideas you re-use old ones, I haven't watched any CW shows post crisis, I just know how crisis worked.)
There are still infinite universes and dopplegangers. Earth 2 is Star Girl, Earth 666 is Lucifer, Earth 7 is Titans, Earth 23 is Doom Patrol (I guesstimated the last two numbers, I'm not looking on a wiki, the number doesn't matter)
The bullshit here is that Jay Garrick can travel from his universe to this one when physics has changed and the speed force can't enable multiversal travel. But that's an easy handwave excuse away from fixing, especially since there's a new speedforce so you just say that one can travel the multiverse again.
Shouldn’t they be wondering how Jay is actually there then if they don’t know the multiverse is still a thing?
Jay didn’t travel from his universe, he’s on Earth Prime now, the episode even showed he lives in Keystone City, he’s not on a separate Earth.
@@genericscout5473 Batwoman hammer on the idea that there cant be no dopplegangers from former earths. So Jay Should be another person.
@@capeto08 I’m aware of what Batwoman highlighted, I know doppelgängers cannot exist as long there’s another still there, but The Flash shows us that Jay Garrick lives on Earth Prime, he’s not from an alternate earth. We just have to accept that that’s what the show and the writers decided to do.
Blood is a liquid.
The family thing was so weird especially considering these people had lives before they were hit with the lightning
“News flash Flash, you’re on The Flash” sums up every stupid decision Barry makes on this show
This season almost made me regret giving up on the show in season 6 lol
18:16
this is the best “i don’t give a flying fuck” I’ve ever heard
Not to turn this into a debate, but I guess them firing Hartley Sawyer was the first sign of terrible decisions to come. (cus yea, it was a terrible move from their part that seemed to appease the fans that are only into witch-hunting, the tweets were more then 4 years old, jokes that have aged really poorly, yes, but that was the point back in the day similar to many other comedians who wanted to defy the limits and/or get attention, same with James Gun. the thing about Hartley is that he definitely had changed ever since then, and they didn't even warn him first or give him one pass, even tho he publicly apologized, which really makes the whole "redemption/second-chances" message of most of the flash feel so extremely hypocritical and beyond dishonest now).
The tweets were more than 8 years old, and in 2 years I already changed into a different person, IMAGINE HIM WITH 8 FKCING YEARS.
tbh i think if they fired hartley sawyer they should have fired iris actress too shes said way worst stuff
This. He knocked it out the park with elongated man. The cw knew what he was a edgy comedian before they hired him. So fuck SJWS.
Yeah, the entire point of his character is redemption and turning into a hero and then they completely obliterate his character/actor for some edgy joke tweets he made before he was even on the show. The show completely died for me then.
I’m just annoyed with how the show went since season 2 the quality of story and direction and writing really deeply hurt this show and went downhill grant gustin deserved much better as the flash he completely got ruined after season 2 became a background character had no growth as a character and in his abilities a joke of hero that couldn’t defend him self with or without his speed needed a team always i his ear telling him what to do the “we are the flash” bs Savitar storyline was shit now in season 8 they finally give him Some growth and now it ends in season 9 ?? Grant deserved better so did Candice Patton
54:18 Even he realized that he loses his speed once a year, he wants to be ready when it happens
I’m glad to see you have been graced by the bionicle dream too!
I need Eric Wallace to watch this video ASAP plz!!!!
The flash needs an Arrow season 5 type season with an Adrian chase type villian
Season 5 of Arrow still had a lot of flaws and cringe moments that reminded everyone that the show never recovered from seasons 3 and 4.
thats what godspeed should've been
That Ralph goodbye was so pathetic, the CW seriously couldn't have Hartley Sawyer come in for ONE scene to say a goodbye, I couldn't believe what they did, I was honestly laughing thinking "this is what you guys do?!"
Thanks for watching the show for me, haven't seen season 6-7, but have enjoyed your summary, so I don't need to watch it - please do season 8 at some point :D
Making fun of the flash is my favorite genre of UA-cam video
There are so many Flash villains who could be finished off with a bullet, and this is America.
So why does Barry have so much trouble with them?
The reason this season made me fully give up on the show was because i really liked Ralph and not only did they have him leave the show, but they weren’t even respectful about it
Well, the actor wasn't super respectful with all those rape jokes he made, or the other racist/homophobic/sexist tweets he made so
@@bloodyneptune yeah, but he said those things a decade ago and it seems as though he had really changed. It felt so hypocritical because the flash is about how every bad person can change and be good and yet the kicked of a main character because of something he did a decade ago, because they wanted the good publicity.
@@bloodyneptune But Candice Patton mocking homeless and trans people got ignored.
@@Xehanort10 - Damn, I didn't know about that, and after checking it out... oof. She's lucky to be a black female in a leading role, had she been a white male in a smaller role she would have been kicked out instead of being protected by the CW.
From what I read in a Reddit thread about this mess, the CW:
*"told Candice to delete the most offensive tweets, told her to stay off social medial for a few weeks and have the CW_ Flash account block users when they are tagged in this twitter thread. They telling you nothing is going to happen. Candice is good friends with Suzanne Gomez who is the publicist for the Flash, they are already handling it so this situation doesnt gain traction."*
Then she has the nerve to complain that the CW didn't do enough to protect her from fans at the start, when her casting caused "racist trolls" to complain because another ginger character was blackwashed #redheaderasure
The Arrowverse does it a lot, with redheads Jimmy Olsen & Hawkgirl becoming black too...
It's not a huge deal, but it would be nice to have a ginger or 2 around; ya know, to diversify the background and all.
Red lives matter!
Whats with the flash tv show and adapting things so soon? Godspeed, Bloodwork and the different Forces were introduced in the booms like a year each before their introduction in the show.
Wow. What a surprise. The show that should've ended 5 seasons ago's 7th season isn't great? Wooooow.
We all had that Bionicle dream
Havent watched the video yet... wonder what Ross has to say about that "Rayo de Luz" episode that didn't even have the flash in it
Knowing about lightsaber fight and waiting for him to get to lightsaber fights in this video is the best gift
"I feel this season is just fine as s6 was" hang on dood, it's coming 😄
AMAZING COTENT!!!! keep up the good videos and have a good day!!! :D
I haven’t watched season 8 yet, but it seems like a very polarizing season. Some people are saying it is like season 1 and 2. Others are saying it’s just has bad as season 7.
It’s amazing
Notice that once Iris birthed the new Nora Spreedforce, Nora SF became petty, clingy to Barry and a control freak. In other words, she acted like how fans see Iris, just turned up a notch.
Reverse Flash doesn’t use the Speed Force. He uses some synthetic one. The show said that itself so how does Nora affect him? Unless something changed in the several seasons I’ve not been watching
He primarily uses his own but it is still connected to the main one, feeds off of it
The thing is I know that season 3 was the beginning of the downfall but Erik Wallace is the guy that actually ruined the show he came onto the show as a main writer on season 4 onwards, he can't write or at least he can't write good for long periods of time and idk how he's still got his job because I can confidently say that the show would be way better than it currently is without him
For me season 2 was my favourite, season 1 was great and season 3 was good. After that they had a few good episodes like flash time but it's consistently bad. It's a shame honestly
I defend season 3 so hard especially now when you look at the seasons that come after
Everyone was hating on s03 for the longest but I thought it was pretty solid 😹
@@stickwittaglocc7563 I liked it too! Apart from the Savitar reveal because that was so obvious I liked the season
I haven't eatch season 7 of The Flash, so in 51:04 with "blood is a liquid" make me laugh so hard
I haven’t seen this season either but every clip of it I’ve seen has been out of context & unintentionally hilarious
Trust me. You even laugh although you‘ve seen season 7 because of the context the two hosts give to the individual scenes.
3:00 this gives me actual physical pain
I appreciate your service, as I love your reviews.
The thumbnail lead me to believe this was a video of Simon Whistler reviewing a CW show and now I'm very disappointed it was not.