It's sad but FFXIV currently reminds me of post-Wrath WoW. It feels like the game is being developed by people who don't play the game and aren't particularly invested in it. They're just going through the motions.
sadly, I think this is the case, Yoshida is still on the game but I feel he is getting burnt out. He is a human being, and I'm sure after 13 years he is tired of the same game.
I totally feel the same way. It gets harder to make content when it also feels like this and people around you are less motivated in general. Im also a raider so maybe that’s why I share the same views.
Pathra, you cover degenerates doing their best. Get back to work! (FYI. Love you!) Ps. I wonder if the mediocre story doesn't have to do with sweet baby Inc getting involved with square? The difference in content is so stark between ARR - EW vs. DT
I’m thankful for the accessible raiding content that ffxiv has, and I’m fine keeping my sub just to raid-log with a chill group of friends. But as an mmo with full time content creators and players who want to play every day and not just do raids over and over, it really needs more fresh content. I can’t imagine doing m4s reclears every week since 7.05, I’m so glad we switched to DSR.
@@ProdHorizn i dont mean to throw shade towards pethra but i think shes starting to run that well dry. Sure she covers a lot of stories but honestly the Drama stories for example, are more or less the same now just with different characters. Almost every drama story is basically the same to the point where its one of 3, someone cheated, someone got cheated on, or a raid group falling apart. Which is so weird because even those drama stories are starting to follow a similar pattern lmfao.
Well there’s really no game you can make worthwhile content on indefinitely. As a casual player going through ARR and playing everyday, I love it. See you guys when the next expansion drops
There's not as much silence as people think, no one pays attention to the translated interviews from the subreddit discord and the like. There are many people who just are not aware of the fact there's practically an interview about the game every two weeks. Like how 7.2 is going to shift the narrative focus back to the Warrior of Light, how Shades Triangle and Cosmic Exploration are going to come out in 7.2, how there's a larger focusing on refining their combat encounter design currently that will manifest in the form of multiple experimental forms of content; like chaotic, throughout the expansion. They aren't silent, people are just oblivious. Even still, being upset with the dev team is valid, I've been playing since ARR and I am pretty displeased with how they are handling the game as well, but I at least know where to go to keep up on what the team is saying and stay informed enough to know that while they are communicating with us regularly, they are drastically missing the point on most accounts.
@ i’d love to read these! where do you find them? and since they are talking about it i’m suprised that they aren’t trying to signal boost these reassurances to stem the overwhelming sentiment of disappointment and uncertainty that is bringing the game down rn. i’ve had two friends that i had convinced to come back decide not to purchase the game based upon the mixed and mostly negative steam reception
i think making 14 your main game eventually will make anyone feel like this thats why i have been getting back into GW2 where there is nothing to do in 14 they really need to think about the content pipeline if this game is to continue another 10 years
@@Elliriahno because I have to be sub to keep your home, fc. It kinda forces you to log in. It’s has alot of ridiculous things and the game doesn’t grow because people white knighting like u. This game is far from perfect. I got into this game almost two years ago cause it was called a masterpiece and I things it’s a good game with a lot of problems. It doesn’t respect ur time, it grinds ur time. The further this game goes the less people will be in later areas. There’s too mix boring crap to get thru
@Pikaru-c4u I'm not white knighting it, this is his choice, and imo this game respect our time way too much, a lil bit of fomo can be good, we wanna play to a MMORPG, and now it feel like a RPG to me.
@@Elliriah nah, FOMO is never good for the players themselves, only for the company since it forces players to log in on a certain time because "ermagerd, I might miss out" But the issue with this game is that even casuals are quickly running out of content to do, or are out of content to do. sure it's his choice to make it his main game, but at the same time, SE kinda forces you to continue your sub, or you lose your house or FC, which are notoriously hard to get sometimes, unless you come back at the end of an expac and there's a 6-8 months content draught like usual. I can agree that SE respects your time a bit too much at times, but also sometimes now, like it depends on how you look at it. if you say "respect my time" in the terms of not wasting more time than needed, then I guess yeah. if you say "respect my time" in the terms of wanting to spend more, but they're not accepting more of your time, then this game falls flat really hard. i've done the current savage tier in 5 weeks, could've been 3 or 4 if 1 of the static members wasn't screwed over by her work and getting rescheduled, i'm not an hardcore player, so clearing that quick is kinda not expected. i'm still grinding the current extreme, but dear god is the average FF14 player absolute dogshit at the game or unable to read simple instructions (looking at you static bridges, where I as MT go on the group 1 bridge and then the OT (or someone else from group 2) decides to run over my bridge and killing us both. but they honestly need to up the amount of content we're getting each patch, since for example in 7.1. we got: 1 dungeon 1 EX trial 1 alliance raid a new beast tribe. some crafting things. 1 unreal trial what are we getting in 7.11? ultimate (i'm happy, but that's the minority obviously) what we getting in 7.15? new custom delivery (something you'll do in 5-10 minutes a week) New Wachumeqimeqi quests Hildibrand (pukes, takes up too much of the budget while being literally as polarizing to the community as possible) 1 week later the new chaotic alliance raid (on christmas I might add) then 7.16 has some new role quests. that's not that much content spread out over 4 months, the ultimate will keep me busy sure, but the rest? i've done the rest already.
I think the game just lacks any content beyond raids that feels worth a sense of investment that isn't niche like fishing or deep dungeons. Bozja and the ShB relic was the last time the game felt like it had something engaging like that before we got the busy work of island sanctuary. I think the devs are just too complacent to mix up the formula that's "good enough" to keep people subbed. My guess is they have their hands full with a new project and underestimated the fatigue the player base feels.
It doesn't help how much effort and focus they have to commit to updating outdated UI and systemic stuff. Between the QoL stuff, graphic update, etc. They are spending sooooo many resources on just fixing old stuff instead of creating new stuff to do. I think they'll get back to a larger focus on present content and future content but it's gonna take a while. Probably the most damning comment I can think of that indicates this is the fact that Yoshi-P said before (or at?) 7.0 launch that sweeping job reworks and combat updates were coming in 8.0. the fact that they knew that that was a massive issue and something that needed reworks but could only afford to commit to a timeline of 2+ years before they could get around to it indicates how much of a backlog of busywork they need to do. I have hope for the field operation next patch (7.2) and maybe the cosmic exploration but damn, feels bad to know that story-wise and core mechanic-wise, we're in the dark for 2 more years. Oh well, it sucks, but this is probably a great opportunity to branch out for a while because I do have confidence in CBU3 to get it right. It just will be a while til they do.
@@revartillery9612 they said that in SHB as EW released too, honestly keep your expectations low and don't expect they'll actually fix anything the games been on such a slow burn for 3 years straight now.
@@revartillery9612 Dawntrail has the most pre-announced content for its patch cycle than any patch before it, the issue is that they haven't put any of it out yet. Can people please start paying attention and quit talking out their necks? Furthermore, the XVI team was re-absored back into the main team and we've been told that all of CS3 will be working on XIV for the foreseeable future. You cannot tell me that the promise of: Chaotic + experimental content ideas they have said will take it place (as this expansion they plan to provide multiple new pieces of content to test the waters and see what we like more) Criterion/Variant dungeons A twist on a new deep dungeon New exploration area (Shades Triangle) Cosmic Exploration and its multiple planets (ishgardian restoration-ish with island snactuary vibes that is a communal piece of content which involves both DoW/L/H) 150% more rewards in the patch cycle (which 7.1 has vastly more than previous) a front-line rework and new map an unannounced trial series another ultimate On top of everything else they are doing is somehow "not creating new stuff," the issue is that its all later in the development pipeline when the expansion should be absolutely front-loaded with it. I genuinely loathe how willfully ignorant people are about this game and planned updates and content releases, all while claiming they aren't transparent enough? There's a motherfucking interview with SOMEONE from the team almost every two weeks and Yoshida himself conducts so many that its almost impossible to keep track. People just don't know where to look or pay attention, and that is not the dev team's fault. XIV is in an incredibly rough spot right now and none of us can deny that, but many of the complaints miss the mark completely because everyone is too damn ignorant to actually pay attention to the constant communication that we DO get.
First of all: Thank you so much for speaking so openly about so many topics that clearly resonate with the opinions of many players. However, it’s concerning that you often have to justify yourself before presenting any argument and constantly remind people that your stance on a particular issue doesn’t invalidate other opinions. That said, I’ve grown used to it, especially when engaging with FFXIV communities. I believe the game is currently in a very questionable state for players who want to invest a lot of time in FFXIV. This is partly due to a very vocal segment of the community that almost religiously shuts down any form of criticism. Statements like “Yoshi-P says you should take breaks” or “If the magic is gone, take a break!” might help rekindle interest in the game over time, but they don’t address the underlying issue. Many players see MMORPGs as a hobby and want to invest one to three hours a day. Unfortunately, Square Enix, through partnerships with content creators like Preach Gaming, contributes to a climate where criticism is either overly generalized or not voiced at all. These content creators often lack the courage to critique the game, especially since many don’t actively play it themselves. This creates a vicious cycle that prevents the game from truly improving. In other games like World of Warcraft, we’re currently seeing the opposite trend: The amount of content is so extensive that players must decide what to focus on and what to set aside for now. However, there’s also a vocal part of the WoW community that similarly attacks the developers and the game in a highly negative, even toxic manner. Admittedly, I’ve come to believe that these individuals are mostly active outside the game itself and don’t represent the in-game community. Nevertheless, their behavior influences the perception of the game from the outside. What I’m getting at is this: Extreme opinions, whether positive or negative, amplified by content creators, contribute to games we love often not being developed in the direction that passionate players hope for. Besides the economic factors you’ve already mentioned, I see this as a key reason behind many of the current issues in MMORPGs. As I said, I deeply appreciate your honesty in sharing your feelings - especially on camera. That takes a great deal of courage, considering how the internet is today, with its small yet extreme communities.
I unsubbed back in September and haven't regretted the decision. I don't think I'll be coming back anytime soon. DT was a flop to me and the value you're getting out of the sub for a patch that is often lackluster has just sealed it for me. Been enjoying real life instead and exploring cafes. Good start to my 10 year journey that DT hinted at creating.
I've been playing a lot longer, since late HW, and to say that this expac (really endwalker is included in this too) gets me legitimately annoyed with the state of the game. The game has never been bigger and yet it feels like we've never been slower with content. To me it isn't rose tinted at all to say HW/StB was peak for this game. Shadowbringers is for a lot of people the best expansion but it's because over 70% of the players started during it (according to luckyblancho) so the story and backlog of previous patches and expacs carried it hard, but for players like myself who played when that 'backlog' was current the games been super stale for almost 4 years now. My tinfoil hat theory is since the surge of players in mid 2021 they are trying to create a wide enough net to catch all the little fish so to speak rather than build a specialized net that catches fewer, but bigger fish (fish being players, net being content). Stormblood was this games height, gameplay wise, because they knew their target audience which were mmo players, all the systems in the game revolved around it but now since so many people's first and only MMO is 14 they are afraid of creating 'MMO' features that incentivize longevity and grind which is why the feeling of nothing to do hangs so heavy over us now. Content cadence and patch release time is also atrocious, 4 1/2 months just straight up isn't acceptable when the content being designed is all beatable within the first week, if not first day. And this is not even starting about the virtual rent that is housing. 14 is straight up my favourite game of all time, toppling the throne that WoW had for me for so long. BUT, the last 2 expacs have really, REALLY tried to sink that ship with buster calls left and right.
Unfortunately, it has been stated that FF14 is Square Enix's cash cow. Ever since around Shadowbringers, they have redesigned the game for a wider appeal which worked but now that design is showing its flaws and they aren't likely to be interested in changing it because ultimately it's what makes them money.
@@undvined no then need to add more content them cating to casual i new save their company , it letting down the casual that is killing ffxiv dt is the biggest f you to the 80% of the playerbase(casuals ) and mental insane need to cater to hardcore is issue with to much hard content for tiny minority of players while the midcore player suffered i new now the casual will suffer in dt with no content for them .
I here you and agree mostly, but I don't think the wide net is the problem. Laziness is. They're at a point that the game is essentially printing money for the company. Instead of going hard to make this game the absolute best it can be, they're just on cruise control 80-90% of the time. Funny thing is, they don't even need to bring brand new content out all the time, presently anyways. They can continue to drop new stuff every 4.5 months, but they need to go back and revamp/improve old content every month at least, until most of the game is widely enjoyable to play. There's literally a crap ton of content in the game that no one plays either because it's not their cup of tea or it's boring because it's dated, needs a revamp, or pointless to farm.
now, I will say. I started when the game relaunched in Realm Reborn, Shadowbringers made me cry with the story, Netsuko went all out with the story telling of that expansion and it showed. I didn't even raid, mainly just rp'd and erped on the side. It was a solid expansion and one of the best in my opinion. The first was an awesome continent.
If you're not feeling the magic, you're not feeling the magic. It's important not to force yourself to keep playing just because you think you should, for content or identity or whatever. FFXIV is an entertainment product. If you're not entertained, then you owe it to yourself to reevaluate.
The magic is no longer there. It's the same thing for a 10+ year span and still going. The magic is there for the first 2 years due to content now for new players. Vets that have done it all, really only have venues or ERP and a lot of us have some dignity to NOT level the game to just that and petty drama for "content" for 12 bucks a month. Not to mention if you have a house, you are "required to get on at least once a month. There are many more reasons why the game has lost the magic, but they have to do something new. Have to, or this game will fall hard very soon. Breaks are very very good, but not due to having to be patient like we are waiting on God to deliver a message to us or return. Lol
I learns this after I beat endwalker this summer. I got to dawntrail intro and just haven’t felt like doing anything besides gold saucer and the firm. I honestly feel there’s isn’t much variety in gameplay. The community build this game up to be perfect and that’s the down fall. I’m just not seeing it
@@BlackNinja2630 yeah, i've been saying this since Endwalker (as someone who plays since end of HW) this game is now according to Yoshi 11 years old and we're getting the same content everytime, nothing really changes, maybe something here and there, but that's about it. the game NEEDS a shake up, but they're so committed to playing everything super safe that they kinda backed themselves into a corner. either redo the content cycle system they have and possibly alienate some of their players, or continue on this path and bleed out slowly, which is happening currently. the currently playing players are not that much anymore, most people have unsubbed already or are subbed but refuse to log on.
Absolutely. However on the flip side, because of those design choices, the game's jobs/classes are incredibly well-balanced. Even the worst performing jobs within their dps archetype (melee, magical, and ranged) which currently are SMN and MCH are not excluded from parties because they only "suck" by a very tiny margin. In games like WoW where the build variety is a lot more part of the game, that also means there are builds that are very much shunned and you will have a hard time doing higher-end content without conforming to the "meta" builds. Also most players end up just doing "meta" builds anyways so it's sort of an illusion of choice.
@@RingoFreakingStarr Sacrificing the fun factor of builds for a level of balance isn't really a good thing, maybe on paper but not in reality and in practice. Some games do it well like POE, Game's like WoW do have a balancing "issue" but that is simply blown out of proportion from what you see on the outside but when you get into the game it's entirely different, when I played WoW I played brewmaster monk and still did end game content perfectly fine (got keystone) and it was the worst tank at the time, also did the same with the dps spec as well when it was bad, yet if you went on youtube and the WoW forums at the time it seemed like no one was inviting monks or that it was impossible to get into groups. Every class does have a meta build but within that build you have flex talents to take certain things you might want, like utility, , my Mythic+ build is very different from my Raid build, and PvP build. If you play an off meta class you might have a hard time getting into groups because of bias (I got turned away on my monk too), but that's every MMO, you using the SMN MCH example is just being disingenuous, I remember when I had a hard time finding a static in (FF14) shadowbringers for savage prog when I played a dps that was bottom tier, I actually decided to go tank for EDR8 because I was tired of getting turned away.
@@Bruh-ye7dg every game even with choices ends up with everyone playing the meta. If the choice existed it would make most peoples choices obsolete and hardcore raiders would leave people out for their fun but shitty performing build
So true 💯. Even Job customization is non existent, it’s single build generic cookie cutter crap, stats means nothing, it’s all just iLvl treadmill. No skill tree, skill level, no sub job, no nothin. It’s arcade level simplicity.
take care of yourself first man. you may not think it's burnout, but it does sound like you're forcing yourself to keep going when you don't actually want to. you are allowed to indulge in other hobbies, play other games, play some of your instruments, mess with your synths. I recommend asking yourself why you are feeling the way you feel; it's important. especially if you can think of anything else in your life that is contributing to it. thanks for all you do for us man; all the best.
I appreciate it! I think I'm feeling more burnt out on the content creation side of things more so than the game itself. There is definitely an added pressure and frustration feeling like I want to make videos or stream but there's not much I want to do in game or talk about. Taking a break from the game is easy enough, maybe the answer is just to not worry about content creation much moving forward. Still trying to figure it all out for myself
@@99_Vit that makes a lot of sense. you clearly work very hard in everything you do and the content you make is very good, but I totally agree that if you feel the need to take a step back from making videos, I definitely recommend doing so. I support you! And there's no shame in age...I'm turning 30 too and it's weird. I feel I'm burning out in the game and I'm not even done with EW!! 😂 You'll figure it out
the thing is, people misuse the term "burn out" a burn out would mean you despise logging in daily, you despise everything about the game and at some point, can't even force yourself anymore and it actively makes you sick to think about it. that's a burn out, not "I don't like the game currently as there's very little to do" it's seriously for him that the content is simply not as engaging as he wants it to be (which is true) the content is done too quickly for howmuch we're getting (which is also very true) i've been playing this game for 7+ years, and I do definitely feel him on every points. the gearing is bland boring (literally a stack stick) the job design is not that great apart for a few jobs. balance patches take 2-4 months, why can't we get a PTS, play around with the changes and based on that we get changes (would instantly fix MCH, since it's been getting these measily 10 potency here and there for years now) content takes too long to come out for what they deliver. (they're still releasing content as they did in HW and onward, yet the cycle has increased in time) so many issues, I want the game to be better and that's why i'm mostly not unsubbing, but also because I love ultimates and want to do that.
@@99_Vit As a "raider", who is done with content in week2/3, I just take time off outside of raid releases. At the moment i level stuff with the pelupelus and do my reclears/ex once a week with friends on random roles every week and log off for the rest. Dont force myself to do content i dont really care about just to play and if the game can give you 2/3 hours of entertainment each week during downtime, Its still a win in my book (: The only thing i wish they would take more risks is job design, compared to GW2, Where the classes feel so distinct, this game feels like 1 tank with a different skin, 2 healers with a different skin and the dps all feel very similar.
Ultimately, they need to do something about housing. Because people buying a house and then having to stay subbed is going to cause burn out for everyone who owns a house. There is so many people staying subbed just so their house isn't taken away.
Yeah I’m in that boat. Not for the house itself exactly as I could afford to rebuy one if I resub in the future but I’ve got months worth of invested grind within my submersibles that I wouldn’t want to lose.
Thanks to this system and the lack of content I gave up my house and I doubt I'm ever going to return because unless I spend some money to get my stuff I will lose all the items in my house as well. The hypocrisy levels yoshida emits when he tells people with a house to take a break makes me realize they are about as evil as EA when it comes to fleecing their customers while creating a cult of players that will defend any decision made by SE. Hey, that's what killed WoW!
I feel this a lot in my fc. fewer and fewer members are logging in everyday and even fun social events like the halloween trick or treat we do on siren was not enough to get them to come back. I will likely keep playing this game regardless since I am able to keep myself entertained but the lack of content for the more casual player base is hurting.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on some other games. Have you considered playing something like GW2, Throne and Liberty or OSRS? And then give your thoughts as you go through!
GW2 is amazing in so many ways, but the development direction has gone into the dumpster. It’s a great exploration game, the world is incredible. It has an MMO feel, but long term players will find it extremely gotcha/cash shop. So many QOL features are paywalled. But if you are a new player it’s a great game to play through once then put down.
Im the same boat, I feel disrespected as a player with how little we get back for how successful the game is, like all the years of good will the company built up have been pissed away...If I wasn't a sunk cost fallacy gamer with 8 years in the game I would've checked out in endwalker but DT really has been the straw that broke the camels back for me. Never played this little or been as uninterested in updates and discussions as I am now. And its not ''burnout'', you and I both are asking for more, not a break... Personally I've been playing retro games from my backlog and its been good, but the I've always had the drive to invest in 1 game and weaponize my autism into that 1 game, sadly XIV aint filling that hole anymore so either things change or I eventually find a new game that clicks.
Same... I really feel like 7.0 needed to shake up the formula in a huge way, but it's just more of the same. I'm hoping a new mmo comes out that really rejuvenates the genre.
@@sergeantkitty I really doubt a new MMO will come along and rejuvenate the genre. Every new MMO that has come out has failed. People don't like games being different from WoW, FF14, GW2. Brighter Shores, which is a new Runescape like game has a chance to do it, but it is only going to be for the people who played Runescape. MMO cost too much to make, so it is near impossible for a new company to make one with new ideas. Because it will just fall flat in most cases. And become MTX Heaven.
@@iceman3317 The only feasible MMO atm that could bring a fresh wind into the genre and shake up things is Riots new MMO. But when that game will come out - if at all, only time will tell.
I played pretty much everyday for 5 years, done mostly everything in game except raiding (Don't see the appeals of savage and ultimate), I finished Dawntrail back in early July and haven't played since. DT was a huge disappointment to me and none of the patch content really appeals to me. All of my friends have unsubbed so I'm happy to take a long extended break from the game. Hopefully 8.0 will bring me back in.
the story really upset me, like i was feeling actually quite down for a while after i played that. I dont think its every happened to me before with a bit of media.
@30:12 I'm older than you and I ended up quitting XIV for the same reasons. It's not a burnout or an age thing. It's seeing what the game has morphed into. Back during ARR I felt like CBU3 was giving their all since they had to show people that XIV is worth their time, now a days it seems like they are just going through the motions similar to Blizzard post Cataclysm. The worst part is that I still really like this game and what it CAN be, not what it is. However, I think the things that destroyed the game in my eyes (forced 2 min meta, forced balance at the cost of unique classes, discord being required in nearly everything, a housing system that is chained to your account subscription, cash shop in a subscription game) was too much for me. After seeing Wuk in 6.55 I made the decision to stop playing despite the fact I had a personal and FC house. It's really sad to see the game in this state but it is sadder to see the modern XIV fans defend the cash shop and all this other nonsense. Geeze, I even remember when CBU3 introduced the cash shop and how they said it won't affect the future of XIV. Then they said they are no longer doing two dungeons per patch. Then they said they are not making any more hard variants of dungeons anymore. Now i'm depressed thinking about it. ;A; Edit: Funny enough, as for the hat issue with the new races it's tied to the hairstyle having the metadata for the hats. Funny enough, modders realized they can just force each hairstyle to use all types of hats. Some flat out look broken while a lot work pretty well outside of the ears clipping. Though given their armor designs I doubt they really are using clipping as an actual excuse.
The content pace of this game has really been bumming me out recently. It seems like they've been putting less and less MMO in this MMO. With the trusts, island sanctuary, and mahjong being put out like they're great updates. These should be tiny mini games of content like triple triad at best but the devs put this stuff out like it's actual content that's gonna keep the game alive
you acting like the SE is comparing the doman mahjong update to an ultimate or raid release is such bad faith. SE doesnt act like that at all. its not like its the same people who would be working on story or raid content that is working on mahjong voicelines. stop crying good lord .it absolutely IS a small QOL to a minigame which is nothing but positive. use your brain. i can absolutely understand wishing there was more coming in 7.1 if the current content dosent interest you but blaming a minigame getting a small update is insane.
@lemontonk your reading comprehension is bad. I'm not blaming the minigames or crying about them. I'm saying that there is little MMO content in this MMO and instead of getting that content we got those minigames. So clearly the devs have prioritized them. Really seems like you're the one that's crying.
@@lemontonk you should watch Xenos' video on how the budget in this game works. they spend a bit on voice lines/updating the mahjong system, meaning that it won't be in other parts of the game. people would say "but ultimate is only a small portion of the playerbase" but atleast ultimates bring something to the game that barely any other content does. content that spans for expansions to come, let it sink in, Stormblood is 7+ years old, yet people are still doing UCOB and UWU on a regular basis, barely anyone is doing the omega raid series, the alexander raid series, the eden raid series or the Pandaemonium raid series. (except for BiS farming) then they put time into things like Island Sanctuary, which they then play as safe as possible, instead of making it a replacement to the abysmal housing situation, they actively go against it, but also, why would I play Island Sanctuary if something like Animal Crossing does this and more? same with Deep Dungeon, I love roguelikes and roguelites, but DD barely fits that category. most runs are mostly the same, the only thing you pray for is that you don't get fucked with pomanders, but there's no "make your build from scratch" we get very little content, while then also getting pieces of content that is suppose to fill a certain Niché, but then they play it so safe on that, that it's just a worse version nobody wants.
Square Enix badly needs to change their formula, especially for dungeons. Dungeons make up more than 50% of what you do content wise in the game. It needs to have variety and it just doesn't. The patch cycles are also very underwhelming. I hope that the failures on story force them to do some self-reflection. Since the main story was pretty much ended in Endwalker, they need to turn away from being so MSQ-based and focus on addressing things like the leveling grind for combat jobs, endgame content, etc.
I've personally felt very simmilar and have the same problem of not being able to really call this feeling "Burnout". For context, I'm also mainly a raider and started playing at the end of Shadowbringers. I can say the early journey of the game was bearable and very fun because of the novelty, I had played wow for years but FFXIV felt so different so it kept me going through ARR which admitedly doesn't have the most interesting lore, this kept me going untill Shadowbringer where the story tone made me really interested in it, and all the different systems that had trckled in overtime made everything feel novel. It's important to keep in mind that throughout this time I played mostly 2 jobs only. Finishing Shadowbringers I started raiding savage on e9s through e12s (arguably the best raids i've experienced) and they were already with loot unlocked which was great to spam partyfinder. There I organically met my first static and we would log everyday at the end of a big work day and just raid a bunch it was tons of fun. Endwalker comes story finale is a big climax but now I have more time and i start playing other jobs exploring other facets of the game and you start to notice the sameness of everything how homogeneous it all is. This is when I started to feel a bit different about content anouncements it's allways the same thing but reskined. All that being said I still love the game but my main gripes nowadays are: Extremely boring loot, Jobs are incredibly simmilar, There is absolutely no customization you can do on your character's power that is not streamlined and boring, the only real customization is cosmetic and somehow we don't have a glam wardrobe like GW2 or WOW, imo the new story is incredibly low stakes and tropy. IMO the scions sacrifice should have been permanent in endwalker, the story would have had an even deeper impact on everyone and it could be something that would mold the WOL's personality going foraward. Not only would this give them more creative freedom with the story it would have left a mark on the players. In the midst of writing this I realized I could speak for an hour about all this just like you hahahaah. Great Video!
it's also that people are constantly saying "raiders are eating good" we're not eating good, just a little bit more, but we're still starving just as much as you. instead of 2 breadcrumbs we get 4, which is still barely anything, sure it's double from 2 to 4, but it's still so little that you might as well not eat it.
You're not alone. DT msq really killed my momentum of doing anything in FFXIV unfortunately. Excited for Unreal but find myself logging in less and less.
They created this monster of a mmo that is one of the most popular mmos in the world. Players have integrated this game into there daily lives and want to play it not as a video game but a daily hobby. Yosheep tells us to unsub between patches just does not stand anymore imo. That means I would unsub from my friends that I made over the last 9 years who live far away. They need to adjust the subscription model or add more consistent longform content earlier. Not 1-2 years after expac launch.
I am also stepping back from FFXIV for now. I haven't logged in for over 3 months and just focusing on my JRPG backlog. I have finished 4 games since the last time I logged in and it feels good. So I may or may not come back in the future.
I will unsub until 7.2 MAYBE or just stay gone till 8.0 because the entire region of Tural, the theme of DT, the characters, story, 2 min meta raids, the slow content drip over 5 months, for the first time playing this game, I despise the game. It needs a significant overhaul to overworld experience, combat mechanics and other QoL stuff.
Haven't played much at all this expansion but always enjoy listening to your ramble in this style about whatever, hope whatever you choose to do works out!
It's why I always advocate for higher job complexity and individual responsibility rather than content focus. The way it is now, whenever there's a content drought, people get bored because that's what the entire game is. If we had higher job complexity, it makes the whole game more dynamic, and you can now approach the same content in multiple ways.
go read some reviews of how HW's job complexity almost killed the entire raiding community. and if you want some more job diversity that is fine but are you okay if your job is the paladin or monk back in HW raiding where you were actively harming the team by choosing them and were all but demanded to roll something else or just have to raid with who would take you versus people you wanted to?
@@ninponighthawk If you're asking me, yeah, I'm okay with that. You can play every job in one character, if a raid group will only accept tryhards I can just pick the job they want for that instance. Why do I need my job to be good at everything? Fuck that, I welcome the adversity, being bad at something will make the thing they're good at shine that much brighter. I will NEVER choose homogenization, being able to get into raid groups easily now is of no importance to me if raiding is completely boring because everyone is playing the same class with a different coat of paint. Besides, the community, encounter design and so many things are different now, it's not like the game would instantly go back to HW if you did anything other than remove more buttons from every job.
I quit last week. All I was doing was logging in to raid for a few hours a week. There's just not enough content to do once you finish story (a few days) and raids (a few weeks) unless you are hardcore progging ultimate. Story was a huge letdown and we didn't even get a relic weapon to grind out this expansion. Forget about it if you don't do hardcore content, there is literally nothing to work towards besides doing dead content alone or running the same dungeons in roulettes every day. No way in hell that is worth $15 a month.
Also people don't understand burn out. You're not burnt out - you're bored. Burn out is when you can't keep up with the demands of the game. In XIV there's just nothing to do for long stretches of time.
>we didn't even get a relic weapon to grind out this expansion We never get an expansion in x.1 patch, let alone x.0, but we should imo Should try Eureka & BA, good glam, and Bozja DRS. Theres organized groups all the time.
Why are U especting an retic weapon grind when we don't get an retic weapon grind untill later on in the patches like endwalkers retic weapon didn't drop untill patch 6.25 so thats months after ew has released so why are U especting an retic weapon at an start of an expastion
Become a collector guy,run 2000 mentors for mount and title,gather all Ultimate weapons,get all mounts from Ex,collect all glamour…. I’m playing the game like 5 years perma sub by now,and started playing in 2.3 and sub unsub now and then till shb then just stayed subbed. I’m also sometimes bored for example right now. But collecting and completing stuff can keep you busy.
I think Shadowbringers, and Endwalker to a certain degree, were the Wrath for ff14 and peak. No king rules forever, it's all mid tier and short comings from here on out with some cool stuff every now and then, they'll never be able to top the story from ARR to Endwalker, and when it comes to content its always the same stuff with a light coat of new paint, to afraid to try anything new, and it's starting to show. The most vocal part of the community will destroy this game with it's toxic positivity.
And you are talking from a raiders perspective such as myself, imagine what you would do as a casual playing the game if you dont raid or do social activities/RP etc. There is basically little to do, if you are not new to the game and have a few thousand hours into the game and done most of the content (you want to do). Do your weeklies, max jobs and call it a day. Let that sink in. You could do achievement hunting etc, but that's just if and not for everyone. With all the supposed casual catering etc it's clear the game is even more appealing for raiders, quite funny tbh. Relics as another time sink would be great, but thats also just one part of it.
ty we been suffering in dt and worst our dung have been made more stressful and worst they plan on more content that see nas "casuals content" to get harder even when casual player PLAY TO RELAX. overall unlike EW that cater to casuals dt is the biggest f you to us ,bad story no annjoying dungs , no post msq content truly a shame. relics are best in ew they made alt jobs easy to lv and they grind was simple and nice plus island santuary was perfect TRUE casual content ,sadly ew lack midcore content but the only ppl who never dont get content is RAIDERS since yoshi p is raider himself he care for them the most.
I felt like you made a description about me in a certain way, this expansion i took the casual side so what happened is exactly what you said, after getting all jobs to 100, i only had what? Nothing more, farm the weekly capped rewards to buy few pieces of gear to certain jobs idk so little content or almost none. 7.1 gonna come with some content worth like 1-2 days of content? For more 4-6 months of nothing
@@anteprs7908 This is a pure skill issue. You would need to be diabolically bad at the game to think Dt dungeons are too hard. If you spent even half the time you spend crying on the internet (and I've seen you in particular in multiple comment sections since before Dawntrail released, so I know that's a lot of time) learning how the game works instead, you would have no problems at all with Dt dungeons.
@@mosley3485 they arent to hard but to annjoying to hard is no dung ffxiv. a yes the stop crying and get good arguemtnt by loser tryhard. buddy i know you mr pro player but the issue is the first time clear of this dung are horrible and annjoying the mechanics are UNCLEAR AND UNFORMULAIC that build stress and annjoyance rather then relaxing and fun. clearing the dung second time is easy but this first time is a huge pain in the azz and ruins the fun the msq would otherwise offer (if dt had much fun to offer).
The caliber of player makes it impossible for developers to create enough content to satiate those that play for a challenging environment. It's the same way over on WoW. The vast majority of players that progress through mythic raiding relatively quickly all step away from the game until the next tier comes. I went through a similar challenge with worrying that I was wasting my time playing games when I turned 30 too, but then classic WoW released and made me realize how much I love gaming and that it'll be part of my routing forever.
I 100% feel this. Game feels so heavily connected to the story so now that its shit (imo), I have like no drive to play the game. Also the combat has gotten stale for me and hope they change it up for 8.0 sad its more waiting as I really loved this game before. Now it’s just boring me so taking a prolonged break.
@@stevenlester985 nah, the new player experience is still great. You can get thousands of hours out of the game before you start feeling this. Endgame is a bit slow at the moment but by the time you get there you’ll have a lot to do
@@99_Vit Sounds like I'll be good for a while then. I'm planning to really savor the trial before moving on. Thank you for responding by the way. I really appreciate it.
I like how people who said that there is enough to do in FFXIV are now saying there isn't. (I don't mean the Creator of this Video) When i said that Endwalker is boring as hell, some people, mostly those who started at Shadowbringers, said that there is plenty to do. Now, one DLC later they say the same. I've played since ARR and never got bored until Endwalker. Shadowbringers aka Casualbringers started to be like this, but still came with good stuff. They bring less patches per year and also less Content like in Stormblood. Eureka was a good alternative Timesink, which could be done with everyone, good and bad Players. Bozja was a cheap Version of Eureka, but at least we could still do something in between patches besides Raiding. They are putting more and more Items into the Shop, but rarely something good into Events etc. FFXIV generates a good amount of money which is drawn out from SE but only a small amount of it flows back into it. Instead SE has the brilliant idea of creating FFXIV Mobile. (Yes, i know someone else did it, but still SE was Supervising and investing on it.) Cloud Servers for example are another method of saving money, because they don't need to rent as many physical Servers. But Cloud Servers aren't as powerful and stable as physicals, which might lead to a perfomance problem again.
SPLEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!! LISTEN TO ME!!!! On a serious note, I'm just over it with SE drowning all their boss mechanics in bright, shiny, distracting special effects. I have a hard time even making out what's going on before it executes and I'm laying on the floor dead. Even worse when they layer them so it's even *harder* to understand what's happening.
The biggest change that would help is having a relic grind in .0 or .1 instead of waiting until .2 or later. To me thats literally it. I don't really end game raid i've just been leveling up my jobs/crafting/gathering. Only putting in maybe a few hours a day because boredom. A early relic grind would keep more people interested. I thought the story was fine since we are starting a new story. It's all about setup, very similar to 2.0 so i expect story to start picking up with patch content. Thanks for your honest feedback, i really think the dev team looks at these feedbacks to consider things to change for the future.
When players use the "unsub and come back", that doesn't fix the issue many of us have with the game. You can take a long break and if you log in years later, the game at its core,it's still the same. It's showing its age, and we're just eager for something new.
I was in the same boat during 6.x, and I vowed that I wouldn't make the same mistake. So I forced myself to only do the content or play the jobs I wanted to. I wasn't going to force myself to level all the jobs and spam duties for tomes and exp. Once I was finished with the base game, I was going to play only a few hours doing the ex trials and raids. 7.X is expected to have the most content compared to any expansion released. I didn't want to burnout or end up quitting before all that comes out. There's plenty of other amazing games to play to fill the time. The game isn't going anywhere as the saying goes. This isn't like other games that have a content vault and fomo.
Im the same. After I levelled up every class to 90 on my main in EW, I literally quit; started a new alt and have only levelled a few jobs- that alt is now my main and I never logged my max level toon ever again - the character just feels bummed and burnt out - even though there was still content to do, it was just the Meh, feeling.
@Zarrakon I more or less past tense did. I had to quit and start again and Not lose myself in the game to enjoy it again. Casual is much more enjoyable to me than playing every day.
I don't raid beyond normals. I got an evening of content and now it's back to waiting until April. That's not a lot over 8 months when they expect me to pay $120 in sub fees.
I watched your first video and I stopped playing weeks ago. I just got burnt out from the game, they just offer so little and their patch cycle is really horrible. I agree with your complaints completely. The patch cycle sucks, the rewards system sucks so you don't have an incentive to re do old content, loot system sucks. Gearing sucks so theres no need to grind.
At a certain point “go play something else” crosses the line from “respecting players’ time” into “killing the game.” Player apathy is the death knell for MMOs, which thrive off of player retention and continual content updates. The slowing pace of releases and the diminishing quantity and quality of content is starting to really take a toll. All the new stuff like the new bozja and beast master and the like needs to be FRONTLOADED in the expansion cycle, not held off until x.25, x.35, x.45, etc. The content lacks replayability - something that keeps people wanting to come back. Efforts to create content that both respects player time AND gives a reason for people to want to return need to be undertaken. There’s also a distinct sense of a rut - a lack of energy, creativity, and innovation - from the dev team now. I really want Dawntrail to be a “learning” expansion, where the team can identify their shortcomings and come up with something fresh for 8.0 and beyond. But idk if that will hapoen
If you're a player that enjoys RP and standing around chatting and socializing then the game is perfect for you. If you like doing actual content its not the best game for you. Just speaking from personal experience and what ive talked with others about.
I'm just getting into watching content creators around FFXIV. I appreciate listening and reading the takes. I've been playing 14 since the PS3 ARR release. I was a longtime FF11 player, and when this dropped, i couldn't help but dive in. My main issue with the game is that it's an mmo, but it doesn't always play like one. Over the time I've played the game, I feel like I've solod most of it. Areas are ghost-towns outside of hub areas. You only party-up when you have to (dunegons, raids), and that's it. There isn't that sense of adventure while leveling and completing quests/battles with others. Unfortunately, I haven't made many friends to static much of the harder content. I’ve been straight PF/DF. I've wanted to get into the ultimates and harder content, but doing a fight repeatedly while learning choreography kind of gets old quick. I still enjoy the game, but i'd like to see it bring more of the MMO back to it.
I've been playing since ARR. I've felt the SAME way you've been feeling, slowly, since around Stormblood. That was 3 expansions ago, and absolutely nothing has changed. I am constantly playing the game for what I hope it will be, having faith that my time investment will not be wasted when they FINALLY release some content for me to actually USE my character. I get raids, and aside from that all progress on my character is basically useless. It makes me real sad man but they have released the same thing for 12 years. I don't think it's gonna change until they realize they can't play it safe anymore. You had a backlog in Endwalker, and a lot of new people came in Shadowbringers. The backlog for long time players was gone for a fat minute. Its been disheartening but at LEAST finally there are more people saying what a lot of us have been feeling for literally years now.
I think that what keeps me going is the various statics that I'm in. Blind progging old fights on min ilv is fun and reprogging ultimates has kept me busy. Also doing dumb shit like trying to clear old raids MINE with an undersized party or trying to beat UCoB with 7 people, getting deep dungeons solo titles, leveling all my crafters in ironman mode, soling stuff as blue mage. If all I did was clear the current savage tier and whatever the newest content is, I would feel the same way.
As a raider, I love me my raids. We get plenty of engaging content - however, the jobs become less and less engaging. On the other hand, the writing is as poor as it hasn't been in a long time. The world building broke for me with the lv83 Zodi trial. What bothers me most: Whilst we get many good raids, there is just nothing else to do. We get no casual-ish / midcore content we can just vibe in, and the next one being explorational apparently won't drop until 7.35. Only so much I can keep myself entertained with doing savage and ultimate all over and over again.
honestly, I feel like we're not getting that much substance, even as raiders. it's kinda the "sure, we're getting more breadcrumbs, but it's still only 4 breadcrumbs compared to 2" We need more substance, more things to sink our teeth in, like relics. why aren't relics straight from x.05 and then gradually continues, even if they just tie that relic step to content like Extremes, fates etc (or even the normal raid) but instead they're dead set on releasing the relic at x.25 and beyond, making the relic basically irrelevant for the entire expac till the end, where the x.55 relic becomes equal to savage BiS.
theres not that much content? its still 7 primals per expansion a few side things and a bit of raiding that dont last long then were locked out of gearing multiple class cause of all the gating so yearhplenty where did you saw plenty?we had more pve release in stormblood
It's okay to move on. No game can stay fun or interesting forever, and no game is also entitled to months-years of your time. There's all kinds of cool experiences out there, just in gaming even, and life is short. Live it!
As someone who enjoyed taking Summoner into casual content for the combat res, I will say that it's actually become less fun thanks to a number of factors. Buffs being reduced to 20 seconds across the board means that you just always summon titan first, there is no point in getting out garuda anymore. Solar bahamut being significantly stronger than bahamut or phoenix means you MUST use seering light alongside it, where as previously in a dungeon or whatever you could decide to delay seering light between either bahamut or phoenix depending on whether the extra damage was needed. Solar bahamut also does far less healing than phoenix, which only comes around once every 4 minutes instead of every two minutes. It's literally become a 4 minute rotation again, but far less interesting.
1:08:15 That's an interesting thought. Sub to the game for a couple of months near the end of the expansion after everything is out and it's on sale. Get a better sense of how the community feels about the expansion as a whole, too...
@@Scerttle Sounds like CBU3 is enjoying the fact that the EN and JP think they are listening to the other side more. That mean there is a much less chance of both sides going, "Hey... CBU3 isn't listening to either side...".
Looking at the way they're still simplifying jobs in the middle of Dawntrail, yeah i think i'm done. Job design has already never been this simple before.
Totally valid feelings. An option is unsub and wait like a year or two and then come back to all the content. The story killed my excitement for this expac too.
I have quit ff14 after years of uninspired, bland, and blatant disregard of the healer situation and i have been dping a lot better lately. Time to move on.
hi vit! i started playing ffxiv three or four months ago and stumbled upon your videos when looking up newbie guides. ever since then, ive always looked forward to every one of your uploads, and just wanted to tell you how much i appreciate your work! thanks for everything so far :)
I've decided to get back into Destiny 2 while I wait for 7.1 personally. Just yesterday unlocked the final subclass (Strand) on my Hunter. Not gonna lie, I was stunned by how easy the Calus boss fight was, since I remember how troublesome he was back when Lightfall launched. I only died once to him since I forgot he had a phase 2 and neglected to kill one of the Tormentors. Definitely instilled confidence in me to play it on Titan once I get a Stasis build and good armor stats on that class. I'm hoping 7.1 will reignite the spark that went out after Dawntrail but I wish they didn't spread the content out so much. Doing that is the last thing they should be doing considering that this expansion feels less rich in content currently
7.1 got me re-invested in the game.... for about half a week, then I was once again out of stuff to do. Jeuno is fun, but there's no point in doing it more than once per week, and even now - a week since its introduction - people have already gotten MUCH better at it, so the challenge is beginning to fade. The MSQ takes a day, tops, and the Pelu Pelu tribal stuff couldn't be less interesting... seriously, who cares about helping start a travel agency? The stakes couldn't be any lower. EDIT: I also don't really care about ultimates and while I actually did try ranked PvP with the start of the new season, holy hell did I regret that immediately.
Been feeling the same way. I don't do ultimates because I just don't have it in me to dedicate my life to a game like that anymore, but I do unreal and savage and it's just not even nearly enough. The relic grind not being there in Endwalker really pissed me off and I've steadily become more and more annoyed and borderline angry with the lack of content considering how much money we all pour into this game through the monthly sub. I do play other games as well just like they are telling us to, and I'm finding it harder and harder to find a reason to come back to 14.
Would be interested to see you play MH Wilds when it comes out, I've always appreciated the in-depth info and the chill vibes. But yeah; we'll be around man, do what's best for you and your well-being.
New player that just found your channel. Watched a couple videos already. Would be sad to lose that discovery already, but also no need to keep playing a game you don't want to. Good luck
The problem is that the story of this game is finished. Back then in shadowbringers we felt excitement because that was a narrative climax. Already with EW things were nice but totally underwhelming conpared to shb. The current story is a attached with chewing gum
You're at the point I was at mid-EW-patch cycle (I started shortly after ShB launch), the honeymoon phase has ended and you can no longer play the game at the pace you'd like to. You might just need a change of scenery, after all: you can't miss something if it isn't absent. I started going through my backlog of games in my library, checking out the other FF games for the first time, and trying other online games (The Old Republic, and recently started Warframe). I'm not sure how much you like just grinding out content, but Eureka is worth doing if you don't mind the grind of leveling up and progressing through each zone until you get to the raid at the end... I'm sure you can get a group to go with you and powerlevel you if you wanted to... worth thinking about, the raid is fun (iirc it's somewhere between extreme and Savage, it was their testing bed for the DRS raid later, in Bozja). And you didn't miss the boat on Eureka either, it's still very much populated and active, there are people in the game who exclusively do Eureka, as it's their favorite content. There's also Discord servers who organize weekly groups to go through, get you leveled up and progressed, and then take you through the raid. The budget issues are definitely glaringly obvious when you've been current with the game for a while... and I suspect a lot of the resources that could be put back into the game are being used to start development of the next MMO, but they just haven't revealed it yet. Of course it's also clearly going into their other IP's and the FF remakes, as you said.
I'd love to see you try WoW, but it's a huge investment in terms of knowledge (also the keyboard + mouse control scheme). Either way I'll keep an eye out for more streams & vids!
30:17 32 yo gamer here - i think i can relate with what you're saying here. for me, it comes down to "is my time being respected?" i like fresh new experiences and don't like doing the same stuff over and over. 1 hour of new content and then donezo is not working out for me. i unsubbed right after experiencing the 7.1 content. and i'm not a hardcore raider so i lose out on even more content. not to downplay anyone else my age or older who loves these same daily/weekly grinds - power to them, but i want to feel more fulfilled in what i do in my experiences these days haha these grinds have been a drag personally
what pisses me off honestly with this game is how Yoshi tries to sell us things and acts like it's a massive amount. like with 7.1, he kept trying to stretch it, meanwhile everyone can say "is ... this it? where is the rest!" This game is making a lot of money, it's keeping SE afloat, yet they keep spending cash into NFT, DEI departments, projects that are likely to flop. but also their budget for big games is still way too high, FF16 supposedly had a 59 million budget, at SE's 70 dollar price tag for their triple A releases would mean they would need to sell 842k ish units, which is manageable, but FF generally doesn't sell that much and we know that SE would 100% be announcing milestones and if it make a massive profit, knowing that they still haven't said anything tells me a lot. but instead of re-investing back into the project that keeps their business afloat, they keep spending it on NFT/other things, for example that marvel game, or forspoken (fairly sure it was that) apparently according to yoshi-p a lot of years ago, they only re-invest the mogstation back into FF14, which if true is horrible, the game makes a constant stream of cash, yet they just gimp the game. But as you said, at the end of the day, we're consumers, it's not OUR problem, we want and NEED more content in the game, it's as simple as that. Yoshi said that they added 2 weeks onto the patch cycle so the team can take paid off, not to sound harsh, but why is that my issue? why am I paying for their paid off vacation? (in a literal sense, since 2 more weeks = 4 weeks in 2 patches that I literally pay for their employee's to go on vacation) I know people are against crunches, but also, why is it my problem? because it isn't, I just want a good product with enough to do, I don't need or want to think about "the poor devs" that's not my problem.
if you jump into Eureka, you can taste what this game could be. Hopefully we get more content like that, despite difficulty is not like savage, you can do some cool stuff in there, and gear actually makes you stronger, and you can feel it alot.
I admitted to this after finishing Dawntrail and letting it broil in my head for two weeks, and decided to quit three months ago. As someone else said, when the story is the highlight and the thing to look forward to the most, since content is all the same and predictable- what is there to look forward to when the story goes bad? Well, after two months, I missed the game a bit, and the modding, but existence of Dawntrail kept me away a little longer, but eventually I decided to return... anew, with limitations, such as no market board- forcing me to craft and gather everything myself. I started a new character that I've been playing each expansion to 100% completions (up to a point, not EVERY relic, just few, that's just asking for burnout- but leveling every class to level cap of the expansion etc.) before moving to the next. It's been great, I also swapped language to japanese to get used to them before Dawntrail, and I even looked into making Wuk Lamat into a miqote, so when I eventually get there, she will sound at least a little better and not look bad. Dawntrail is probably like 5-6 months of gameplay away, so I'm not too worried anymore.
@@ek9750 I’m a ninja main now 😬 if they wanted to cut down on dragoons weaves they could’ve gotten rid of life surge and no one would’ve complained. Now it’s suffering from the same problem as drk where the one minute burst is just empty feeling. Between the 7.0 changes and now this, it’s been dumbed down to the point where I’d rather play a different job sadly
@@99_Vit I feel the same as you, I switched to monk/samurai recently because of these reasons and now with 7.1 I feel like dropping dragoon completely which is sad because it has the best aesthetics and lore imo.
@@99_Vit same here. since i started playing 4 yrs ago, i have always been drawn to DRG and MNK as dps classes and now after the recent changes with 7.0/.1 to DRG, i've dropped the job completely at this point and MNK is my main dps job now. what made DRG fun to play is regressing into another boring job that i don't even want to engage with. at this point unless its somehow reworked, not really interested in playing it anymore and the way how jobs are heading for some time now, i don't have faith in the team to turn it around honestly. unless they pull a rabbit out the hat at this point which isn't likely if possible really
just wait for MH Wilds to come out and grind that. Any other games u would want to do a walkthru for would be cool. Ur channel is growing as long as u keep the same theme it should keep growing naturally. I’m also a music producer and i would appreciate watching and listening to ur work !
I kinda left the game in Endwalker when the content started to feel like a treadmill and while I returned and had hopes for Dawntrail - the story left me very disappointed and while I did play FFXI I am still not returning just for the alliance raid. I had dropped my sub after I finished the story and also felt disappointed with the jobs (specifically tank and healer roles) and how they had changed very little. When the jobs I liked stopped being exciting and being completely disinterested in the storyline, there is nothing really to keep me going. I couldn't feel like I wanted to commit to raiding on a role that has become boring. I have tried my hand at DPS but I really dont feel like raiding as a DPS - optimising damage for a battle isn't really my jam and I'm over the weekly content grinds honestly. I may return on 8.0 when they decide to completely rework the roles/jobs but who knows at this stage.
Ive quit end of september...and havent regretted since. Endwalker was already lacking in content...and Dawntrail...yikes...didnt even come up with a good story to enjoy. So yeah. Easy decision. FF14 isnt worth those 15 Bucks a month.
As a fellow high end raider (several week 1, 5/5 ultimates) I've been playing since 3.0, and the only advice I can give you is figuring out what things you like the most and stick to it, and unsub where there is no such content, FF14 is not an OTP game (for me personnaly I really enjoy progging a new ultimate/savage with my static, and I dont think I will get tired of it, like ever) between 6.4 (cleared p12s week 1) and 7.0 I've been unsubbed for nearly a whole year, my static will start progging FRU early january so Im unsubbed since september (m4s week 1 + reclears) and I will resub early january (during this break I played several other games) I think it's a toxic behavior to stick with FF14 even when you log on everyday and ask yourself "What there is to do", just unsub and play other games while you wait for a patch that you're interrested in, dont play a game you dont want to
I feel you, I have been feeling this way with the game for a while myself. I love it, I'll be around, and be back eventually, but right now, just not feeling it.
i took a break since 2 weeks ago, getting burned out from having to run group contents and trying to find people matching my time for raiding also and bored in general, just playing Black Desert and Metaphor right now and I'm still thinking to whether come back for 7.1 x_x
I totally agree with everything u have said. Gearing is the most barebones system i have ever seen, and the other problem is all the other content besides savage isnt really for gear, its for cosmetics or just catch up gear that u will replace anyway. If they cant figure out something unique, i would actually take anything! tier sets, gear that change how your class is played, more indepth materia/stat system...something! And the class design has also been very stale. They pigeon holed themselves in this super constrictive, every class 60 min burst/cooldown window that severely limits the creativity of job design. Especially when there is no gear to augment a different playstyle and no like subclass for each class, it gets boring very quick. This is also speculation, but the fact that Yoshi P said the job design stuff is coming next expansion doesnt give me a lot of hope for much change considering this expansion was suppose to work on combat design and more loot rewards, and it didnt differ much at all. I quit this game very fast after Dawntrail because the future just looked bleak. Really wish it was better! (I think i ranted more than u xD)
I wouldn't say the pigeonholed themselves into it, they did it because player feedback was enough they felt they had to, the community is literally regressing and wanting what they had in a way back in HW, when in HW people were complaining that they wanted what we have now. Job diversity was a problem because jobs like pal and mnk were basically the laughing stock of raid teams. Gearing in this feels like a godsend. granted I raid with a static so that is likely why it feels this way to me but i went and played new world aeternum with friends, diablo 4, older destiny 2, other "mmos" and the gearing was go do this possibly hundreds of times and sink hundreds of hours into it in order to get BiS rolled gear. Tier sets and set bonuses and sub classes would be in the same vein as cross-class abilities. 99% of players took the most optimal ones and only those, sure some players took some less used ones for the maybe one of time it was needed but again by and large every person will find the BiS gear and BiS subclass and either roll it or raid teams will demand you roll it so you arent a hinderance to their prog. will their be some groups that say it doesnt matter and we will work around whatever you want? sure most definitely, but there is only so many of those groups and those groups are less than likely to be able to network to everyone that would fit, which means you alienate another group of players again. SE and Creative are in a damned if you damned if you dont. they got here of player feedback and are now being whiplashed by player feed back to go back to what it was.
I feel the same, DT sucks.. yes the upgrade and some new fight mechanics are good but that's it.. it was the worse expansion ever as of story, characters. I lost any motivation for the game and i just feel nostalgic for the past expansions
I moved to FFXIV from GW2 after a low dip in the story of that game around the end of ShB and I'm moving back to GW2 now after experiencing a full patch cycle. Like you I've done all the evergreen content I was interested in, I even tried out raiding for a bit which is unusual for my normally very casual playstyle. The main thing for me was the story and 7.1 combined with the fact that everything is so extremely formulaic in every possible aspect of the game and that I can't play all my jobs anymore because they are all stuck at lvl90 in outdated gear and I can't bring myself to do the grind again was the final nail in the coffin. GW2 also had a restart after their decade-long saga and I just find myself more invested in that story, and when I get tired of working on my legendaries I can go do something else and pick up where I left later. I will probably come back to FFXIV to binge story eventually, maybe as late as 8.0, but for now my sub fee will go to steam/gog and new gaming experiences. :)
I'm on the other side of the fence, I didn't go hard on the game this 7.0 patch... I did msq, got savage week one and geared the jobs I might wanna play for ultimate, and the rest has been helping friends. Now I'm excited for 7.1 cause of FRU, I dig the Eden storyline and also will be the first time I have a chance at doing an ulti on patch, wich I haven't before. Chaotic alliance is a neat plus that I'm not sure I'll get into this patch, but still, it's neat that they are adding a new kind of fight. You are definitely right on the business model. It's a hella expensive game for what content it puts out. I feel like my break from it might come after getting FRU cleared, grab reclears if the fight is good and helping some friends with it if they also wanna go at it. And come back for the deep dungeon.
I literally just had this happen with wow about 3 weeks ago. I lived for m+ since its come out but randomly after one I was just like what am I even doing on cuz I don't even know if im having fun? im not burnt out at all either it just clicked in my head and now i havent been on in 3 weeks.
Yeah this happened to a lot of WoW Players. They don't realize they are burned out until they actually stop playing. Even in SL, and it is a bad expansion don't get me wrong, but so many people were like 'I have to do this. I have to do that. If I don't I am going to get behind.' and they should have known there was going to be a catch up mechanic later on. I feel like FF14 players are starting to have the same feeling that WoW Players had in SL. People don't know how to take breaks. I never really got burnt out until BFA/SL in WoW but it was because I felt like I had to be at RP events for my guild. I was subbed for like 3 years non stop and I usually took 4 to 6 month breaks before I joined the rp guild.
@ yea I’ve been subbed since vanilla and never felt like this even during the wod heresy days. Oddly enough when classic dropped having to level slowly through the game again and actually use my brain and weird items reinvigorated a lot of it for me. I’m in a weird middle ground where I love retail endgame but hate everything else. I wish I could have like classic leveling with retail endgame so no matter what I felt like I was playing an actual mmo.
There's no repeatable content, i've been saying this for years now. You can only do Savage once a week despite having multiple classes leveled that could offer replayability by doing savage on those as well. I hoped that criterion would fill the void of replayable content back when they got teased but it turned out to be just savage : lite. There's nothing much to so in game that has replayability value so you just end up logging in for raid, then logging off for the rest of the week. FF14 desperately needs something akin to m+ that you can do daily.
The moment when you realise that take away the story from this game, all you have left is a dumbed down outdated game. Every combat is just a stupid dance chore, heck even the arena is always a stupid square or circle, there is literally NO epic dungeon raid boss feeling. This game is NOT an MMORPG, it’s more like a solo player arcade game with some team play
i randomly found this video, but ive said something in the past that people have been very against it, but to me FFXIV kinda died with the end of endwalker. If they wanted to go forward with the game they would have to make a new rebranding of the game, same way they did with a Realm Reborn back when the game "revived" itself from 1.0. They should have done a massive graphics overhaul, combat revamp, more in-depth chracter progression, etc. (as you also said on your video). I didnt come back for Dawntrail, and all videos ive seen so far are just validating my original thoughts.
i think the way ff14 releases content is slow yeah but it benefits me since i can use that free time going out with friends and do other stuff and not just hang on my pc 24/7 feels rlly good atm
@7:30 I havent finished m4s but man a week one clear sounds rough. Once you have everything whats the point? Your gear is going to be replaced by crafted sets next tier. Its a glam farm at that point. And thats a stretch.
I can relate. Ive been feeling burnt out and kinda bored with the game. Sometimes I just log in and wonder "i should just do something else." Perhaps I should try getting into the harder raid content but im hesitant to do so. Looking forward to that chaotic alliance raid tho. So many players maybe I can hide how bad I am lol. Otherwise i just let my sub run out and come back later. It feels refreshing. I'd wish they'd give us more for PVP. I really took to that scene.
35:55 ive been waiting for the next expansion to make things better since ShB in all honesty. i really think ShB is when the game changed footing entirely, especially with job diversity which is VERY important for a game like ffxiv to feel good (despite what xeno says). SE is no stranger to bad decisions, the ShB noobs from asmongold and covid were just toxic casuals to put it lightly, praising all FFXIV is while doing brayflox's longstop... in my opinion that was insanely unhealthy for the development of the game and SE's mindset going forward, but only now is it catching up to them on a larger scale.
Only thing that makes me come back to the game is my character at this point. I'm 50/50 on coming back for the upcoming patch, but the current story is the Dragon Ball GT of FF14. I don't care about the world. YoshiP kept justifying it by saying "we just tied off a huge story arc with Endwalker, so starting a new story won't be as good." It's like...no...the writing is simply not interesting. Dawntrail started with its brakes on the first 6-10 hours, and only improved slightly over time. The ONLY good thing for me was the final town (Solution 9; I love that place) and I suppose the final zone with the memory people. If this patch is at the post-EW level I may be done with the game for good, and then just pretend it ended after the main EW story. Your reasoning is much more raid-oriented, but my lack of excitement for the story has absolutely ruined my interest in trying more. Oh well.
Don’t feel bad about taking a break/quitting. Most, if not all, successful content creators branch out to different games etc. If anything, like you’ve said it’s a hobby for you, so do what makes you happy and experiment with different games etc. I’m enjoying watching your videos, because you’re very passionate about the game, but this should not feel like a chore for you to log in if you don’t feel like it. You have built a great community and I’m sure many will follow you regardless what you decide to do next. A bit off topic, but I never got a chance to thank you for your controller guide and hotbars, so thank you 🫡
Keep the channel because I will watch you play anything. You have a way of analyzing games that I think is valuable and could add value to the communities of so many other games. Have the community choose a few games that you haven't played before and I think people will be happy to stick around after XIV.
Feeling similar and went on break(although I didn't even try 7.1). I dunno if I would say I quit personally because I don't see the point in closing the door on a game but I def feel like it might be a long while (maybe 8.0) before I feel like I wanna play again. Best of luck if you quit on discovering a new game if that's a thing you're interested in.
helping people clearing ultimates is a safe haven for me. Yes it is old content, dead content etc etc. But their emotions are fresh. It is a very fulfilling experience. I am putting my skill and experience to use. I essentially play for others while having fun for myself.
Agreed. This is some of the most interesting replayability to me too. No doubt FRU clear parties would be fun and satisfying to help in. I just question if that's enough to keep me coming back
I started ff 2 years ago almost. Loved it 100% but there are a lot of points you have brought up and I 100% agree. As a mch main for dps, I’m so sad. Endwalker mch was pretty solid imo for phys range. I also feel forced to pay my sub because I’d lose my house :/
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Have you tried talking to Wuk Lamatt?
Lmao
I hope it says "speak to Lyse" at this point.
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VIT!! LISTEN TO ME!!
The players aren't quitting on FFXIV. FFXIV is quitting on the players.
It's sad but FFXIV currently reminds me of post-Wrath WoW. It feels like the game is being developed by people who don't play the game and aren't particularly invested in it. They're just going through the motions.
sadly, I think this is the case, Yoshida is still on the game but I feel he is getting burnt out. He is a human being, and I'm sure after 13 years he is tired of the same game.
I totally feel the same way. It gets harder to make content when it also feels like this and people around you are less motivated in general. Im also a raider so maybe that’s why I share the same views.
if more people made creative content about the game like you do then the youtube community would DEFINITELY be better. Love ur vids 🖤
Pathra, you cover degenerates doing their best. Get back to work!
(FYI. Love you!)
Ps. I wonder if the mediocre story doesn't have to do with sweet baby Inc getting involved with square?
The difference in content is so stark between ARR - EW vs. DT
I’m thankful for the accessible raiding content that ffxiv has, and I’m fine keeping my sub just to raid-log with a chill group of friends. But as an mmo with full time content creators and players who want to play every day and not just do raids over and over, it really needs more fresh content.
I can’t imagine doing m4s reclears every week since 7.05, I’m so glad we switched to DSR.
@@ProdHorizn i dont mean to throw shade towards pethra but i think shes starting to run that well dry. Sure she covers a lot of stories but honestly the Drama stories for example, are more or less the same now just with different characters. Almost every drama story is basically the same to the point where its one of 3, someone cheated, someone got cheated on, or a raid group falling apart. Which is so weird because even those drama stories are starting to follow a similar pattern lmfao.
Well there’s really no game you can make worthwhile content on indefinitely. As a casual player going through ARR and playing everyday, I love it. See you guys when the next expansion drops
i’m honestly so sad at the silence from the devs. the lack of communication in the face of all of this criticism is starting to give me WoW vibes ):
There's not as much silence as people think, no one pays attention to the translated interviews from the subreddit discord and the like. There are many people who just are not aware of the fact there's practically an interview about the game every two weeks. Like how 7.2 is going to shift the narrative focus back to the Warrior of Light, how Shades Triangle and Cosmic Exploration are going to come out in 7.2, how there's a larger focusing on refining their combat encounter design currently that will manifest in the form of multiple experimental forms of content; like chaotic, throughout the expansion.
They aren't silent, people are just oblivious.
Even still, being upset with the dev team is valid, I've been playing since ARR and I am pretty displeased with how they are handling the game as well, but I at least know where to go to keep up on what the team is saying and stay informed enough to know that while they are communicating with us regularly, they are drastically missing the point on most accounts.
@ i’d love to read these! where do you find them? and since they are talking about it i’m suprised that they aren’t trying to signal boost these reassurances to stem the overwhelming sentiment of disappointment and uncertainty that is bringing the game down rn. i’ve had two friends that i had convinced to come back decide not to purchase the game based upon the mixed and mostly negative steam reception
i think making 14 your main game eventually will make anyone feel like this thats why i have been getting back into GW2 where there is nothing to do in 14 they really need to think about the content pipeline if this game is to continue another 10 years
i mean, can you blame him for making a MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION game his main game?
@@negentropyagent7337 That's his personal choice at the end of the day, so yeah.
@@Elliriahno because I have to be sub to keep your home, fc. It kinda forces you to log in. It’s has alot of ridiculous things and the game doesn’t grow because people white knighting like u. This game is far from perfect. I got into this game almost two years ago cause it was called a masterpiece and I things it’s a good game with a lot of problems. It doesn’t respect ur time, it grinds ur time. The further this game goes the less people will be in later areas. There’s too mix boring crap to get thru
@Pikaru-c4u I'm not white knighting it, this is his choice, and imo this game respect our time way too much, a lil bit of fomo can be good, we wanna play to a MMORPG, and now it feel like a RPG to me.
@@Elliriah nah, FOMO is never good for the players themselves, only for the company since it forces players to log in on a certain time because "ermagerd, I might miss out"
But the issue with this game is that even casuals are quickly running out of content to do, or are out of content to do.
sure it's his choice to make it his main game, but at the same time, SE kinda forces you to continue your sub, or you lose your house or FC, which are notoriously hard to get sometimes, unless you come back at the end of an expac and there's a 6-8 months content draught like usual.
I can agree that SE respects your time a bit too much at times, but also sometimes now, like it depends on how you look at it.
if you say "respect my time" in the terms of not wasting more time than needed, then I guess yeah.
if you say "respect my time" in the terms of wanting to spend more, but they're not accepting more of your time, then this game falls flat really hard.
i've done the current savage tier in 5 weeks, could've been 3 or 4 if 1 of the static members wasn't screwed over by her work and getting rescheduled, i'm not an hardcore player, so clearing that quick is kinda not expected.
i'm still grinding the current extreme, but dear god is the average FF14 player absolute dogshit at the game or unable to read simple instructions (looking at you static bridges, where I as MT go on the group 1 bridge and then the OT (or someone else from group 2) decides to run over my bridge and killing us both.
but they honestly need to up the amount of content we're getting each patch, since for example in 7.1.
we got:
1 dungeon
1 EX trial
1 alliance raid
a new beast tribe.
some crafting things.
1 unreal trial
what are we getting in 7.11? ultimate (i'm happy, but that's the minority obviously)
what we getting in 7.15?
new custom delivery (something you'll do in 5-10 minutes a week)
New Wachumeqimeqi quests
Hildibrand (pukes, takes up too much of the budget while being literally as polarizing to the community as possible)
1 week later the new chaotic alliance raid (on christmas I might add)
then 7.16 has some new role quests.
that's not that much content spread out over 4 months, the ultimate will keep me busy sure, but the rest? i've done the rest already.
I think the game just lacks any content beyond raids that feels worth a sense of investment that isn't niche like fishing or deep dungeons. Bozja and the ShB relic was the last time the game felt like it had something engaging like that before we got the busy work of island sanctuary. I think the devs are just too complacent to mix up the formula that's "good enough" to keep people subbed. My guess is they have their hands full with a new project and underestimated the fatigue the player base feels.
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It doesn't help how much effort and focus they have to commit to updating outdated UI and systemic stuff. Between the QoL stuff, graphic update, etc. They are spending sooooo many resources on just fixing old stuff instead of creating new stuff to do. I think they'll get back to a larger focus on present content and future content but it's gonna take a while. Probably the most damning comment I can think of that indicates this is the fact that Yoshi-P said before (or at?) 7.0 launch that sweeping job reworks and combat updates were coming in 8.0. the fact that they knew that that was a massive issue and something that needed reworks but could only afford to commit to a timeline of 2+ years before they could get around to it indicates how much of a backlog of busywork they need to do. I have hope for the field operation next patch (7.2) and maybe the cosmic exploration but damn, feels bad to know that story-wise and core mechanic-wise, we're in the dark for 2 more years. Oh well, it sucks, but this is probably a great opportunity to branch out for a while because I do have confidence in CBU3 to get it right. It just will be a while til they do.
@@revartillery9612 they said that in SHB as EW released too, honestly keep your expectations low and don't expect they'll actually fix anything the games been on such a slow burn for 3 years straight now.
@@revartillery9612 Dawntrail has the most pre-announced content for its patch cycle than any patch before it, the issue is that they haven't put any of it out yet. Can people please start paying attention and quit talking out their necks? Furthermore, the XVI team was re-absored back into the main team and we've been told that all of CS3 will be working on XIV for the foreseeable future.
You cannot tell me that the promise of:
Chaotic + experimental content ideas they have said will take it place (as this expansion they plan to provide multiple new pieces of content to test the waters and see what we like more)
Criterion/Variant dungeons
A twist on a new deep dungeon
New exploration area (Shades Triangle)
Cosmic Exploration and its multiple planets (ishgardian restoration-ish with island snactuary vibes that is a communal piece of content which involves both DoW/L/H)
150% more rewards in the patch cycle (which 7.1 has vastly more than previous)
a front-line rework and new map
an unannounced trial series
another ultimate
On top of everything else they are doing is somehow "not creating new stuff," the issue is that its all later in the development pipeline when the expansion should be absolutely front-loaded with it.
I genuinely loathe how willfully ignorant people are about this game and planned updates and content releases, all while claiming they aren't transparent enough? There's a motherfucking interview with SOMEONE from the team almost every two weeks and Yoshida himself conducts so many that its almost impossible to keep track. People just don't know where to look or pay attention, and that is not the dev team's fault.
XIV is in an incredibly rough spot right now and none of us can deny that, but many of the complaints miss the mark completely because everyone is too damn ignorant to actually pay attention to the constant communication that we DO get.
First of all: Thank you so much for speaking so openly about so many topics that clearly resonate with the opinions of many players. However, it’s concerning that you often have to justify yourself before presenting any argument and constantly remind people that your stance on a particular issue doesn’t invalidate other opinions. That said, I’ve grown used to it, especially when engaging with FFXIV communities.
I believe the game is currently in a very questionable state for players who want to invest a lot of time in FFXIV. This is partly due to a very vocal segment of the community that almost religiously shuts down any form of criticism. Statements like “Yoshi-P says you should take breaks” or “If the magic is gone, take a break!” might help rekindle interest in the game over time, but they don’t address the underlying issue. Many players see MMORPGs as a hobby and want to invest one to three hours a day. Unfortunately, Square Enix, through partnerships with content creators like Preach Gaming, contributes to a climate where criticism is either overly generalized or not voiced at all. These content creators often lack the courage to critique the game, especially since many don’t actively play it themselves. This creates a vicious cycle that prevents the game from truly improving.
In other games like World of Warcraft, we’re currently seeing the opposite trend: The amount of content is so extensive that players must decide what to focus on and what to set aside for now. However, there’s also a vocal part of the WoW community that similarly attacks the developers and the game in a highly negative, even toxic manner. Admittedly, I’ve come to believe that these individuals are mostly active outside the game itself and don’t represent the in-game community. Nevertheless, their behavior influences the perception of the game from the outside.
What I’m getting at is this: Extreme opinions, whether positive or negative, amplified by content creators, contribute to games we love often not being developed in the direction that passionate players hope for. Besides the economic factors you’ve already mentioned, I see this as a key reason behind many of the current issues in MMORPGs.
As I said, I deeply appreciate your honesty in sharing your feelings - especially on camera. That takes a great deal of courage, considering how the internet is today, with its small yet extreme communities.
I unsubbed back in September and haven't regretted the decision. I don't think I'll be coming back anytime soon. DT was a flop to me and the value you're getting out of the sub for a patch that is often lackluster has just sealed it for me. Been enjoying real life instead and exploring cafes. Good start to my 10 year journey that DT hinted at creating.
I've been playing a lot longer, since late HW, and to say that this expac (really endwalker is included in this too) gets me legitimately annoyed with the state of the game. The game has never been bigger and yet it feels like we've never been slower with content. To me it isn't rose tinted at all to say HW/StB was peak for this game. Shadowbringers is for a lot of people the best expansion but it's because over 70% of the players started during it (according to luckyblancho) so the story and backlog of previous patches and expacs carried it hard, but for players like myself who played when that 'backlog' was current the games been super stale for almost 4 years now.
My tinfoil hat theory is since the surge of players in mid 2021 they are trying to create a wide enough net to catch all the little fish so to speak rather than build a specialized net that catches fewer, but bigger fish (fish being players, net being content). Stormblood was this games height, gameplay wise, because they knew their target audience which were mmo players, all the systems in the game revolved around it but now since so many people's first and only MMO is 14 they are afraid of creating 'MMO' features that incentivize longevity and grind which is why the feeling of nothing to do hangs so heavy over us now. Content cadence and patch release time is also atrocious, 4 1/2 months just straight up isn't acceptable when the content being designed is all beatable within the first week, if not first day. And this is not even starting about the virtual rent that is housing.
14 is straight up my favourite game of all time, toppling the throne that WoW had for me for so long. BUT, the last 2 expacs have really, REALLY tried to sink that ship with buster calls left and right.
Unfortunately, it has been stated that FF14 is Square Enix's cash cow. Ever since around Shadowbringers, they have redesigned the game for a wider appeal which worked but now that design is showing its flaws and they aren't likely to be interested in changing it because ultimately it's what makes them money.
@@undvined no then need to add more content them cating to casual i new save their company , it letting down the casual that is killing ffxiv dt is the biggest f you to the 80% of the playerbase(casuals ) and mental insane need to cater to hardcore is issue with to much hard content for tiny minority of players while the midcore player suffered i new now the casual will suffer in dt with no content for them .
@@anteprs7908😂 yall need other hobbies
I here you and agree mostly, but I don't think the wide net is the problem. Laziness is. They're at a point that the game is essentially printing money for the company. Instead of going hard to make this game the absolute best it can be, they're just on cruise control 80-90% of the time.
Funny thing is, they don't even need to bring brand new content out all the time, presently anyways. They can continue to drop new stuff every 4.5 months, but they need to go back and revamp/improve old content every month at least, until most of the game is widely enjoyable to play. There's literally a crap ton of content in the game that no one plays either because it's not their cup of tea or it's boring because it's dated, needs a revamp, or pointless to farm.
now, I will say. I started when the game relaunched in Realm Reborn, Shadowbringers made me cry with the story, Netsuko went all out with the story telling of that expansion and it showed. I didn't even raid, mainly just rp'd and erped on the side. It was a solid expansion and one of the best in my opinion. The first was an awesome continent.
If you're not feeling the magic, you're not feeling the magic. It's important not to force yourself to keep playing just because you think you should, for content or identity or whatever. FFXIV is an entertainment product. If you're not entertained, then you owe it to yourself to reevaluate.
The magic is no longer there. It's the same thing for a 10+ year span and still going. The magic is there for the first 2 years due to content now for new players. Vets that have done it all, really only have venues or ERP and a lot of us have some dignity to NOT level the game to just that and petty drama for "content" for 12 bucks a month. Not to mention if you have a house, you are "required to get on at least once a month. There are many more reasons why the game has lost the magic, but they have to do something new. Have to, or this game will fall hard very soon.
Breaks are very very good, but not due to having to be patient like we are waiting on God to deliver a message to us or return. Lol
I learns this after I beat endwalker this summer. I got to dawntrail intro and just haven’t felt like doing anything besides gold saucer and the firm. I honestly feel there’s isn’t much variety in gameplay. The community build this game up to be perfect and that’s the down fall. I’m just not seeing it
What magic?
@@BlackNinja2630 yeah, i've been saying this since Endwalker (as someone who plays since end of HW)
this game is now according to Yoshi 11 years old and we're getting the same content everytime, nothing really changes, maybe something here and there, but that's about it.
the game NEEDS a shake up, but they're so committed to playing everything super safe that they kinda backed themselves into a corner.
either redo the content cycle system they have and possibly alienate some of their players, or continue on this path and bleed out slowly, which is happening currently.
the currently playing players are not that much anymore, most people have unsubbed already or are subbed but refuse to log on.
Yeah this expansion sucked.
Loot and gearing sucks in this game. There is 0 build variety.
Absolutely. However on the flip side, because of those design choices, the game's jobs/classes are incredibly well-balanced. Even the worst performing jobs within their dps archetype (melee, magical, and ranged) which currently are SMN and MCH are not excluded from parties because they only "suck" by a very tiny margin. In games like WoW where the build variety is a lot more part of the game, that also means there are builds that are very much shunned and you will have a hard time doing higher-end content without conforming to the "meta" builds. Also most players end up just doing "meta" builds anyways so it's sort of an illusion of choice.
@@RingoFreakingStarr Sacrificing the fun factor of builds for a level of balance isn't really a good thing, maybe on paper but not in reality and in practice. Some games do it well like POE, Game's like WoW do have a balancing "issue" but that is simply blown out of proportion from what you see on the outside but when you get into the game it's entirely different, when I played WoW I played brewmaster monk and still did end game content perfectly fine (got keystone) and it was the worst tank at the time, also did the same with the dps spec as well when it was bad, yet if you went on youtube and the WoW forums at the time it seemed like no one was inviting monks or that it was impossible to get into groups. Every class does have a meta build but within that build you have flex talents to take certain things you might want, like utility, , my Mythic+ build is very different from my Raid build, and PvP build.
If you play an off meta class you might have a hard time getting into groups because of bias (I got turned away on my monk too), but that's every MMO, you using the SMN MCH example is just being disingenuous, I remember when I had a hard time finding a static in (FF14) shadowbringers for savage prog when I played a dps that was bottom tier, I actually decided to go tank for EDR8 because I was tired of getting turned away.
@@Bruh-ye7dg every game even with choices ends up with everyone playing the meta. If the choice existed it would make most peoples choices obsolete and hardcore raiders would leave people out for their fun but shitty performing build
So true 💯. Even Job customization is non existent, it’s single build generic cookie cutter crap, stats means nothing, it’s all just iLvl treadmill.
No skill tree, skill level, no sub job, no nothin. It’s arcade level simplicity.
Go play wow then. So you got 95% of your loot useless because of meta build. So much better
take care of yourself first man. you may not think it's burnout, but it does sound like you're forcing yourself to keep going when you don't actually want to. you are allowed to indulge in other hobbies, play other games, play some of your instruments, mess with your synths. I recommend asking yourself why you are feeling the way you feel; it's important. especially if you can think of anything else in your life that is contributing to it.
thanks for all you do for us man; all the best.
I appreciate it! I think I'm feeling more burnt out on the content creation side of things more so than the game itself. There is definitely an added pressure and frustration feeling like I want to make videos or stream but there's not much I want to do in game or talk about. Taking a break from the game is easy enough, maybe the answer is just to not worry about content creation much moving forward. Still trying to figure it all out for myself
@@99_Vit that makes a lot of sense. you clearly work very hard in everything you do and the content you make is very good, but I totally agree that if you feel the need to take a step back from making videos, I definitely recommend doing so. I support you! And there's no shame in age...I'm turning 30 too and it's weird. I feel I'm burning out in the game and I'm not even done with EW!! 😂 You'll figure it out
the thing is, people misuse the term "burn out"
a burn out would mean you despise logging in daily, you despise everything about the game and at some point, can't even force yourself anymore and it actively makes you sick to think about it.
that's a burn out, not "I don't like the game currently as there's very little to do"
it's seriously for him that the content is simply not as engaging as he wants it to be (which is true)
the content is done too quickly for howmuch we're getting (which is also very true)
i've been playing this game for 7+ years, and I do definitely feel him on every points.
the gearing is bland boring (literally a stack stick)
the job design is not that great apart for a few jobs.
balance patches take 2-4 months, why can't we get a PTS, play around with the changes and based on that we get changes (would instantly fix MCH, since it's been getting these measily 10 potency here and there for years now)
content takes too long to come out for what they deliver. (they're still releasing content as they did in HW and onward, yet the cycle has increased in time)
so many issues, I want the game to be better and that's why i'm mostly not unsubbing, but also because I love ultimates and want to do that.
@@99_Vit As a "raider", who is done with content in week2/3, I just take time off outside of raid releases. At the moment i level stuff with the pelupelus and do my reclears/ex once a week with friends on random roles every week and log off for the rest. Dont force myself to do content i dont really care about just to play and if the game can give you 2/3 hours of entertainment each week during downtime, Its still a win in my book (:
The only thing i wish they would take more risks is job design, compared to GW2, Where the classes feel so distinct, this game feels like 1 tank with a different skin, 2 healers with a different skin and the dps all feel very similar.
Ultimately, they need to do something about housing. Because people buying a house and then having to stay subbed is going to cause burn out for everyone who owns a house. There is so many people staying subbed just so their house isn't taken away.
Yeah I’m in that boat. Not for the house itself exactly as I could afford to rebuy one if I resub in the future but I’ve got months worth of invested grind within my submersibles that I wouldn’t want to lose.
it becuase they are forced to stay sub that they wont change anything .
I let my house get demolished, right now the game is not worth my sub, ah well..
you feel freedom when you let your house get demolished, feels good ngl
Thanks to this system and the lack of content I gave up my house and I doubt I'm ever going to return because unless I spend some money to get my stuff I will lose all the items in my house as well. The hypocrisy levels yoshida emits when he tells people with a house to take a break makes me realize they are about as evil as EA when it comes to fleecing their customers while creating a cult of players that will defend any decision made by SE. Hey, that's what killed WoW!
I feel this a lot in my fc. fewer and fewer members are logging in everyday and even fun social events like the halloween trick or treat we do on siren was not enough to get them to come back. I will likely keep playing this game regardless since I am able to keep myself entertained but the lack of content for the more casual player base is hurting.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on some other games. Have you considered playing something like GW2, Throne and Liberty or OSRS? And then give your thoughts as you go through!
GW2 is amazing in so many ways, but the development direction has gone into the dumpster. It’s a great exploration game, the world is incredible. It has an MMO feel, but long term players will find it extremely gotcha/cash shop. So many QOL features are paywalled.
But if you are a new player it’s a great game to play through once then put down.
Totally get what you’re saying, but hope you continue to make vids on this or other channels. You’re one of the good ones.
The budget thing is a huge problem indeed. SE funnels all the money into their other projects that is such a dumb decision.
Im the same boat, I feel disrespected as a player with how little we get back for how successful the game is, like all the years of good will the company built up have been pissed away...If I wasn't a sunk cost fallacy gamer with 8 years in the game I would've checked out in endwalker but DT really has been the straw that broke the camels back for me. Never played this little or been as uninterested in updates and discussions as I am now. And its not ''burnout'', you and I both are asking for more, not a break...
Personally I've been playing retro games from my backlog and its been good, but the I've always had the drive to invest in 1 game and weaponize my autism into that 1 game, sadly XIV aint filling that hole anymore so either things change or I eventually find a new game that clicks.
Same... I really feel like 7.0 needed to shake up the formula in a huge way, but it's just more of the same. I'm hoping a new mmo comes out that really rejuvenates the genre.
you guys are just funding the next squarenix slop XD
Good discussion on Reddit but it needs new unwoke moderators. Can't say anything controversy without a permanent ban anymore 😂
@@sergeantkitty I really doubt a new MMO will come along and rejuvenate the genre. Every new MMO that has come out has failed. People don't like games being different from WoW, FF14, GW2. Brighter Shores, which is a new Runescape like game has a chance to do it, but it is only going to be for the people who played Runescape. MMO cost too much to make, so it is near impossible for a new company to make one with new ideas. Because it will just fall flat in most cases. And become MTX Heaven.
@@iceman3317 The only feasible MMO atm that could bring a fresh wind into the genre and shake up things is Riots new MMO. But when that game will come out - if at all, only time will tell.
If this games pvp was actually good that would help a lot
I played pretty much everyday for 5 years, done mostly everything in game except raiding (Don't see the appeals of savage and ultimate), I finished Dawntrail back in early July and haven't played since. DT was a huge disappointment to me and none of the patch content really appeals to me. All of my friends have unsubbed so I'm happy to take a long extended break from the game. Hopefully 8.0 will bring me back in.
the story really upset me, like i was feeling actually quite down for a while after i played that. I dont think its every happened to me before with a bit of media.
@30:12
I'm older than you and I ended up quitting XIV for the same reasons. It's not a burnout or an age thing. It's seeing what the game has morphed into. Back during ARR I felt like CBU3 was giving their all since they had to show people that XIV is worth their time, now a days it seems like they are just going through the motions similar to Blizzard post Cataclysm. The worst part is that I still really like this game and what it CAN be, not what it is. However, I think the things that destroyed the game in my eyes (forced 2 min meta, forced balance at the cost of unique classes, discord being required in nearly everything, a housing system that is chained to your account subscription, cash shop in a subscription game) was too much for me. After seeing Wuk in 6.55 I made the decision to stop playing despite the fact I had a personal and FC house. It's really sad to see the game in this state but it is sadder to see the modern XIV fans defend the cash shop and all this other nonsense. Geeze, I even remember when CBU3 introduced the cash shop and how they said it won't affect the future of XIV. Then they said they are no longer doing two dungeons per patch. Then they said they are not making any more hard variants of dungeons anymore. Now i'm depressed thinking about it. ;A;
Edit: Funny enough, as for the hat issue with the new races it's tied to the hairstyle having the metadata for the hats. Funny enough, modders realized they can just force each hairstyle to use all types of hats. Some flat out look broken while a lot work pretty well outside of the ears clipping. Though given their armor designs I doubt they really are using clipping as an actual excuse.
The content pace of this game has really been bumming me out recently. It seems like they've been putting less and less MMO in this MMO. With the trusts, island sanctuary, and mahjong being put out like they're great updates. These should be tiny mini games of content like triple triad at best but the devs put this stuff out like it's actual content that's gonna keep the game alive
you acting like the SE is comparing the doman mahjong update to an ultimate or raid release is such bad faith. SE doesnt act like that at all. its not like its the same people who would be working on story or raid content that is working on mahjong voicelines. stop crying good lord .it absolutely IS a small QOL to a minigame which is nothing but positive. use your brain. i can absolutely understand wishing there was more coming in 7.1 if the current content dosent interest you but blaming a minigame getting a small update is insane.
@lemontonk your reading comprehension is bad. I'm not blaming the minigames or crying about them. I'm saying that there is little MMO content in this MMO and instead of getting that content we got those minigames. So clearly the devs have prioritized them. Really seems like you're the one that's crying.
it a rpg first a mmo second also their is dung and raiding and trail their is enough .
@@lemontonk you should watch Xenos' video on how the budget in this game works.
they spend a bit on voice lines/updating the mahjong system, meaning that it won't be in other parts of the game.
people would say "but ultimate is only a small portion of the playerbase" but atleast ultimates bring something to the game that barely any other content does.
content that spans for expansions to come, let it sink in, Stormblood is 7+ years old, yet people are still doing UCOB and UWU on a regular basis, barely anyone is doing the omega raid series, the alexander raid series, the eden raid series or the Pandaemonium raid series. (except for BiS farming)
then they put time into things like Island Sanctuary, which they then play as safe as possible, instead of making it a replacement to the abysmal housing situation, they actively go against it, but also, why would I play Island Sanctuary if something like Animal Crossing does this and more?
same with Deep Dungeon, I love roguelikes and roguelites, but DD barely fits that category.
most runs are mostly the same, the only thing you pray for is that you don't get fucked with pomanders, but there's no "make your build from scratch"
we get very little content, while then also getting pieces of content that is suppose to fill a certain Niché, but then they play it so safe on that, that it's just a worse version nobody wants.
Square Enix badly needs to change their formula, especially for dungeons. Dungeons make up more than 50% of what you do content wise in the game. It needs to have variety and it just doesn't. The patch cycles are also very underwhelming. I hope that the failures on story force them to do some self-reflection. Since the main story was pretty much ended in Endwalker, they need to turn away from being so MSQ-based and focus on addressing things like the leveling grind for combat jobs, endgame content, etc.
I've personally felt very simmilar and have the same problem of not being able to really call this feeling "Burnout". For context, I'm also mainly a raider and started playing at the end of Shadowbringers. I can say the early journey of the game was bearable and very fun because of the novelty, I had played wow for years but FFXIV felt so different so it kept me going through ARR which admitedly doesn't have the most interesting lore, this kept me going untill Shadowbringer where the story tone made me really interested in it, and all the different systems that had trckled in overtime made everything feel novel. It's important to keep in mind that throughout this time I played mostly 2 jobs only. Finishing Shadowbringers I started raiding savage on e9s through e12s (arguably the best raids i've experienced) and they were already with loot unlocked which was great to spam partyfinder. There I organically met my first static and we would log everyday at the end of a big work day and just raid a bunch it was tons of fun. Endwalker comes story finale is a big climax but now I have more time and i start playing other jobs exploring other facets of the game and you start to notice the sameness of everything how homogeneous it all is. This is when I started to feel a bit different about content anouncements it's allways the same thing but reskined.
All that being said I still love the game but my main gripes nowadays are: Extremely boring loot, Jobs are incredibly simmilar, There is absolutely no customization you can do on your character's power that is not streamlined and boring, the only real customization is cosmetic and somehow we don't have a glam wardrobe like GW2 or WOW, imo the new story is incredibly low stakes and tropy. IMO the scions sacrifice should have been permanent in endwalker, the story would have had an even deeper impact on everyone and it could be something that would mold the WOL's personality going foraward. Not only would this give them more creative freedom with the story it would have left a mark on the players.
In the midst of writing this I realized I could speak for an hour about all this just like you hahahaah. Great Video!
it's also that people are constantly saying "raiders are eating good"
we're not eating good, just a little bit more, but we're still starving just as much as you.
instead of 2 breadcrumbs we get 4, which is still barely anything, sure it's double from 2 to 4, but it's still so little that you might as well not eat it.
You're not alone. DT msq really killed my momentum of doing anything in FFXIV unfortunately. Excited for Unreal but find myself logging in less and less.
They created this monster of a mmo that is one of the most popular mmos in the world. Players have integrated this game into there daily lives and want to play it not as a video game but a daily hobby. Yosheep tells us to unsub between patches just does not stand anymore imo. That means I would unsub from my friends that I made over the last 9 years who live far away. They need to adjust the subscription model or add more consistent longform content earlier. Not 1-2 years after expac launch.
have you tried discord?
funny that he said that but i unsub and lost my housing that took months to get everything in place
I am also stepping back from FFXIV for now. I haven't logged in for over 3 months and just focusing on my JRPG backlog. I have finished 4 games since the last time I logged in and it feels good. So I may or may not come back in the future.
I will unsub until 7.2 MAYBE or just stay gone till 8.0 because the entire region of Tural, the theme of DT, the characters, story, 2 min meta raids, the slow content drip over 5 months, for the first time playing this game, I despise the game. It needs a significant overhaul to overworld experience, combat mechanics and other QoL stuff.
Haven't played much at all this expansion but always enjoy listening to your ramble in this style about whatever, hope whatever you choose to do works out!
It's why I always advocate for higher job complexity and individual responsibility rather than content focus. The way it is now, whenever there's a content drought, people get bored because that's what the entire game is. If we had higher job complexity, it makes the whole game more dynamic, and you can now approach the same content in multiple ways.
try wow and u will see what happens once u go the path of class complexity.
basically in wow now u need linkedin networking to progress anything at all
@@Sonny_Blackbones Totally not true but go off.
go read some reviews of how HW's job complexity almost killed the entire raiding community. and if you want some more job diversity that is fine but are you okay if your job is the paladin or monk back in HW raiding where you were actively harming the team by choosing them and were all but demanded to roll something else or just have to raid with who would take you versus people you wanted to?
@@ninponighthawk If you're asking me, yeah, I'm okay with that. You can play every job in one character, if a raid group will only accept tryhards I can just pick the job they want for that instance. Why do I need my job to be good at everything? Fuck that, I welcome the adversity, being bad at something will make the thing they're good at shine that much brighter. I will NEVER choose homogenization, being able to get into raid groups easily now is of no importance to me if raiding is completely boring because everyone is playing the same class with a different coat of paint.
Besides, the community, encounter design and so many things are different now, it's not like the game would instantly go back to HW if you did anything other than remove more buttons from every job.
I quit last week. All I was doing was logging in to raid for a few hours a week. There's just not enough content to do once you finish story (a few days) and raids (a few weeks) unless you are hardcore progging ultimate. Story was a huge letdown and we didn't even get a relic weapon to grind out this expansion. Forget about it if you don't do hardcore content, there is literally nothing to work towards besides doing dead content alone or running the same dungeons in roulettes every day. No way in hell that is worth $15 a month.
Also people don't understand burn out. You're not burnt out - you're bored. Burn out is when you can't keep up with the demands of the game. In XIV there's just nothing to do for long stretches of time.
>we didn't even get a relic weapon to grind out this expansion
We never get an expansion in x.1 patch, let alone x.0, but we should imo
Should try Eureka & BA, good glam, and Bozja DRS. Theres organized groups all the time.
Why are U especting an retic weapon grind when we don't get an retic weapon grind untill later on in the patches like endwalkers retic weapon didn't drop untill patch 6.25 so thats months after ew has released so why are U especting an retic weapon at an start of an expastion
@@colinhouweling8615 retic?
Become a collector guy,run 2000 mentors for mount and title,gather all Ultimate weapons,get all mounts from Ex,collect all glamour…. I’m playing the game like 5 years perma sub by now,and started playing in 2.3 and sub unsub now and then till shb then just stayed subbed. I’m also sometimes bored for example right now. But collecting and completing stuff can keep you busy.
I think Shadowbringers, and Endwalker to a certain degree, were the Wrath for ff14 and peak. No king rules forever, it's all mid tier and short comings from here on out with some cool stuff every now and then, they'll never be able to top the story from ARR to Endwalker, and when it comes to content its always the same stuff with a light coat of new paint, to afraid to try anything new, and it's starting to show. The most vocal part of the community will destroy this game with it's toxic positivity.
And you are talking from a raiders perspective such as myself, imagine what you would do as a casual playing the game if you dont raid or do social activities/RP etc. There is basically little to do, if you are not new to the game and have a few thousand hours into the game and done most of the content (you want to do). Do your weeklies, max jobs and call it a day. Let that sink in. You could do achievement hunting etc, but that's just if and not for everyone. With all the supposed casual catering etc it's clear the game is even more appealing for raiders, quite funny tbh. Relics as another time sink would be great, but thats also just one part of it.
ty we been suffering in dt and worst our dung have been made more stressful and worst they plan on more content that see nas "casuals content" to get harder even when casual player PLAY TO RELAX. overall unlike EW that cater to casuals dt is the biggest f you to us ,bad story no annjoying dungs , no post msq content truly a shame. relics are best in ew they made alt jobs easy to lv and they grind was simple and nice plus island santuary was perfect TRUE casual content ,sadly ew lack midcore content but the only ppl who never dont get content is RAIDERS since yoshi p is raider himself he care for them the most.
I felt like you made a description about me in a certain way, this expansion i took the casual side so what happened is exactly what you said, after getting all jobs to 100, i only had what? Nothing more, farm the weekly capped rewards to buy few pieces of gear to certain jobs idk so little content or almost none. 7.1 gonna come with some content worth like 1-2 days of content? For more 4-6 months of nothing
@@anteprs7908 This is a pure skill issue. You would need to be diabolically bad at the game to think Dt dungeons are too hard.
If you spent even half the time you spend crying on the internet (and I've seen you in particular in multiple comment sections since before Dawntrail released, so I know that's a lot of time) learning how the game works instead, you would have no problems at all with Dt dungeons.
@@mosley3485 they arent to hard but to annjoying to hard is no dung ffxiv. a yes the stop crying and get good arguemtnt by loser tryhard. buddy i know you mr pro player but the issue is the first time clear of this dung are horrible and annjoying the mechanics are UNCLEAR AND UNFORMULAIC that build stress and annjoyance rather then relaxing and fun. clearing the dung second time is easy but this first time is a huge pain in the azz and ruins the fun the msq would otherwise offer (if dt had much fun to offer).
@@anteprs7908 they really aren't though. almost all of the mechanics are just cut and pastes of old mechanics. just open your eyes and pay attention.
The caliber of player makes it impossible for developers to create enough content to satiate those that play for a challenging environment. It's the same way over on WoW. The vast majority of players that progress through mythic raiding relatively quickly all step away from the game until the next tier comes. I went through a similar challenge with worrying that I was wasting my time playing games when I turned 30 too, but then classic WoW released and made me realize how much I love gaming and that it'll be part of my routing forever.
I 100% feel this. Game feels so heavily connected to the story so now that its shit (imo), I have like no drive to play the game. Also the combat has gotten stale for me and hope they change it up for 8.0 sad its more waiting as I really loved this game before. Now it’s just boring me so taking a prolonged break.
Brand new free trial player here. Should I be concerned? I’m enjoying the game a lot right now
@@stevenlester985 nah, the new player experience is still great. You can get thousands of hours out of the game before you start feeling this. Endgame is a bit slow at the moment but by the time you get there you’ll have a lot to do
@@99_Vit Sounds like I'll be good for a while then. I'm planning to really savor the trial before moving on. Thank you for responding by the way. I really appreciate it.
I like how people who said that there is enough to do in FFXIV are now saying there isn't. (I don't mean the Creator of this Video)
When i said that Endwalker is boring as hell, some people, mostly those who started at Shadowbringers, said that there is plenty to do.
Now, one DLC later they say the same.
I've played since ARR and never got bored until Endwalker. Shadowbringers aka Casualbringers started to be like this, but still came with good stuff.
They bring less patches per year and also less Content like in Stormblood. Eureka was a good alternative Timesink, which could be done with everyone, good and bad Players.
Bozja was a cheap Version of Eureka, but at least we could still do something in between patches besides Raiding.
They are putting more and more Items into the Shop, but rarely something good into Events etc.
FFXIV generates a good amount of money which is drawn out from SE but only a small amount of it flows back into it. Instead SE has the brilliant idea of creating FFXIV Mobile. (Yes, i know someone else did it, but still SE was Supervising and investing on it.)
Cloud Servers for example are another method of saving money, because they don't need to rent as many physical Servers. But Cloud Servers aren't as powerful and stable as physicals, which might lead to a perfomance problem again.
SPLEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!! LISTEN TO ME!!!!
On a serious note, I'm just over it with SE drowning all their boss mechanics in bright, shiny, distracting special effects. I have a hard time even making out what's going on before it executes and I'm laying on the floor dead. Even worse when they layer them so it's even *harder* to understand what's happening.
The biggest change that would help is having a relic grind in .0 or .1 instead of waiting until .2 or later. To me thats literally it. I don't really end game raid i've just been leveling up my jobs/crafting/gathering. Only putting in maybe a few hours a day because boredom. A early relic grind would keep more people interested. I thought the story was fine since we are starting a new story. It's all about setup, very similar to 2.0 so i expect story to start picking up with patch content.
Thanks for your honest feedback, i really think the dev team looks at these feedbacks to consider things to change for the future.
Relic and something like island sanctuary should be introduced in .1. For someone that also doesn't raid, that would make me really content.
@@John-od7dr the someone who doesnt raid is about 70% of the playerbase but sadly yoshi p doesnt cater for non raids and casuals most of the time.
@@anteprs7908 this is the one thing I really cannot comprehend, why don't they cater to their largest player base lol??
@@kelpie4692 becuase yoshi p isnt casual he is hardcore raider and doesnt understnad the casuals
When players use the "unsub and come back", that doesn't fix the issue many of us have with the game. You can take a long break and if you log in years later, the game at its core,it's still the same.
It's showing its age, and we're just eager for something new.
I was in the same boat during 6.x, and I vowed that I wouldn't make the same mistake. So I forced myself to only do the content or play the jobs I wanted to. I wasn't going to force myself to level all the jobs and spam duties for tomes and exp. Once I was finished with the base game, I was going to play only a few hours doing the ex trials and raids. 7.X is expected to have the most content compared to any expansion released. I didn't want to burnout or end up quitting before all that comes out. There's plenty of other amazing games to play to fill the time. The game isn't going anywhere as the saying goes. This isn't like other games that have a content vault and fomo.
Im the same. After I levelled up every class to 90 on my main in EW, I literally quit; started a new alt and have only levelled a few jobs- that alt is now my main and I never logged my max level toon ever again - the character just feels bummed and burnt out - even though there was still content to do, it was just the Meh, feeling.
@@askbjornmusicyou have too much time to play ffxiv on your hands. You’ll never get bored of the game
@Zarrakon I more or less past tense did. I had to quit and start again and Not lose myself in the game to enjoy it again. Casual is much more enjoyable to me than playing every day.
I don't raid beyond normals. I got an evening of content and now it's back to waiting until April. That's not a lot over 8 months when they expect me to pay $120 in sub fees.
I watched your first video and I stopped playing weeks ago. I just got burnt out from the game, they just offer so little and their patch cycle is really horrible.
I agree with your complaints completely. The patch cycle sucks, the rewards system sucks so you don't have an incentive to re do old content, loot system sucks. Gearing sucks so theres no need to grind.
At a certain point “go play something else” crosses the line from “respecting players’ time” into “killing the game.”
Player apathy is the death knell for MMOs, which thrive off of player retention and continual content updates. The slowing pace of releases and the diminishing quantity and quality of content is starting to really take a toll. All the new stuff like the new bozja and beast master and the like needs to be FRONTLOADED in the expansion cycle, not held off until x.25, x.35, x.45, etc. The content lacks replayability - something that keeps people wanting to come back. Efforts to create content that both respects player time AND gives a reason for people to want to return need to be undertaken.
There’s also a distinct sense of a rut - a lack of energy, creativity, and innovation - from the dev team now. I really want Dawntrail to be a “learning” expansion, where the team can identify their shortcomings and come up with something fresh for 8.0 and beyond. But idk if that will hapoen
If you're a player that enjoys RP and standing around chatting and socializing then the game is perfect for you. If you like doing actual content its not the best game for you. Just speaking from personal experience and what ive talked with others about.
I'm just getting into watching content creators around FFXIV. I appreciate listening and reading the takes. I've been playing 14 since the PS3 ARR release. I was a longtime FF11 player, and when this dropped, i couldn't help but dive in. My main issue with the game is that it's an mmo, but it doesn't always play like one. Over the time I've played the game, I feel like I've solod most of it. Areas are ghost-towns outside of hub areas. You only party-up when you have to (dunegons, raids), and that's it. There isn't that sense of adventure while leveling and completing quests/battles with others.
Unfortunately, I haven't made many friends to static much of the harder content. I’ve been straight PF/DF. I've wanted to get into the ultimates and harder content, but doing a fight repeatedly while learning choreography kind of gets old quick.
I still enjoy the game, but i'd like to see it bring more of the MMO back to it.
I've been playing since ARR. I've felt the SAME way you've been feeling, slowly, since around Stormblood. That was 3 expansions ago, and absolutely nothing has changed. I am constantly playing the game for what I hope it will be, having faith that my time investment will not be wasted when they FINALLY release some content for me to actually USE my character. I get raids, and aside from that all progress on my character is basically useless.
It makes me real sad man but they have released the same thing for 12 years. I don't think it's gonna change until they realize they can't play it safe anymore. You had a backlog in Endwalker, and a lot of new people came in Shadowbringers. The backlog for long time players was gone for a fat minute. Its been disheartening but at LEAST finally there are more people saying what a lot of us have been feeling for literally years now.
I think that what keeps me going is the various statics that I'm in. Blind progging old fights on min ilv is fun and reprogging ultimates has kept me busy. Also doing dumb shit like trying to clear old raids MINE with an undersized party or trying to beat UCoB with 7 people, getting deep dungeons solo titles, leveling all my crafters in ironman mode, soling stuff as blue mage. If all I did was clear the current savage tier and whatever the newest content is, I would feel the same way.
As a raider, I love me my raids. We get plenty of engaging content - however, the jobs become less and less engaging.
On the other hand, the writing is as poor as it hasn't been in a long time. The world building broke for me with the lv83 Zodi trial.
What bothers me most: Whilst we get many good raids, there is just nothing else to do. We get no casual-ish / midcore content we can just vibe in, and the next one being explorational apparently won't drop until 7.35. Only so much I can keep myself entertained with doing savage and ultimate all over and over again.
honestly, I feel like we're not getting that much substance, even as raiders.
it's kinda the "sure, we're getting more breadcrumbs, but it's still only 4 breadcrumbs compared to 2"
We need more substance, more things to sink our teeth in, like relics.
why aren't relics straight from x.05 and then gradually continues, even if they just tie that relic step to content like Extremes, fates etc (or even the normal raid)
but instead they're dead set on releasing the relic at x.25 and beyond, making the relic basically irrelevant for the entire expac till the end, where the x.55 relic becomes equal to savage BiS.
theres not that much content? its still 7 primals per expansion a few side things and a bit of raiding that dont last long then were locked out of gearing multiple class cause of all the gating so yearhplenty where did you saw plenty?we had more pve release in stormblood
It's okay to move on. No game can stay fun or interesting forever, and no game is also entitled to months-years of your time. There's all kinds of cool experiences out there, just in gaming even, and life is short. Live it!
As someone who enjoyed taking Summoner into casual content for the combat res, I will say that it's actually become less fun thanks to a number of factors. Buffs being reduced to 20 seconds across the board means that you just always summon titan first, there is no point in getting out garuda anymore. Solar bahamut being significantly stronger than bahamut or phoenix means you MUST use seering light alongside it, where as previously in a dungeon or whatever you could decide to delay seering light between either bahamut or phoenix depending on whether the extra damage was needed.
Solar bahamut also does far less healing than phoenix, which only comes around once every 4 minutes instead of every two minutes. It's literally become a 4 minute rotation again, but far less interesting.
45:30 from what I've seen of the Japanese side of things, they feel the opposite: that they listen to the EN side more.
1:08:15 That's an interesting thought. Sub to the game for a couple of months near the end of the expansion after everything is out and it's on sale. Get a better sense of how the community feels about the expansion as a whole, too...
@@Scerttle Sounds like CBU3 is enjoying the fact that the EN and JP think they are listening to the other side more. That mean there is a much less chance of both sides going, "Hey... CBU3 isn't listening to either side...".
Story was trash this expac.
Looking at the way they're still simplifying jobs in the middle of Dawntrail, yeah i think i'm done.
Job design has already never been this simple before.
Totally valid feelings. An option is unsub and wait like a year or two and then come back to all the content. The story killed my excitement for this expac too.
I have quit ff14 after years of uninspired, bland, and blatant disregard of the healer situation and i have been dping a lot better lately. Time to move on.
hi vit! i started playing ffxiv three or four months ago and stumbled upon your videos when looking up newbie guides. ever since then, ive always looked forward to every one of your uploads, and just wanted to tell you how much i appreciate your work! thanks for everything so far :)
I've decided to get back into Destiny 2 while I wait for 7.1 personally. Just yesterday unlocked the final subclass (Strand) on my Hunter. Not gonna lie, I was stunned by how easy the Calus boss fight was, since I remember how troublesome he was back when Lightfall launched. I only died once to him since I forgot he had a phase 2 and neglected to kill one of the Tormentors. Definitely instilled confidence in me to play it on Titan once I get a Stasis build and good armor stats on that class.
I'm hoping 7.1 will reignite the spark that went out after Dawntrail but I wish they didn't spread the content out so much. Doing that is the last thing they should be doing considering that this expansion feels less rich in content currently
7.1 got me re-invested in the game.... for about half a week, then I was once again out of stuff to do. Jeuno is fun, but there's no point in doing it more than once per week, and even now - a week since its introduction - people have already gotten MUCH better at it, so the challenge is beginning to fade. The MSQ takes a day, tops, and the Pelu Pelu tribal stuff couldn't be less interesting... seriously, who cares about helping start a travel agency? The stakes couldn't be any lower.
EDIT: I also don't really care about ultimates and while I actually did try ranked PvP with the start of the new season, holy hell did I regret that immediately.
Been feeling the same way. I don't do ultimates because I just don't have it in me to dedicate my life to a game like that anymore, but I do unreal and savage and it's just not even nearly enough. The relic grind not being there in Endwalker really pissed me off and I've steadily become more and more annoyed and borderline angry with the lack of content considering how much money we all pour into this game through the monthly sub. I do play other games as well just like they are telling us to, and I'm finding it harder and harder to find a reason to come back to 14.
Would be interested to see you play MH Wilds when it comes out, I've always appreciated the in-depth info and the chill vibes. But yeah; we'll be around man, do what's best for you and your well-being.
New player that just found your channel. Watched a couple videos already. Would be sad to lose that discovery already, but also no need to keep playing a game you don't want to. Good luck
You really sound fed up with it all buddy, even the small stuff really bothering you, take a break and forget about the game, look after yourself.
The problem is that the story of this game is finished. Back then in shadowbringers we felt excitement because that was a narrative climax. Already with EW things were nice but totally underwhelming conpared to shb. The current story is a attached with chewing gum
You're at the point I was at mid-EW-patch cycle (I started shortly after ShB launch), the honeymoon phase has ended and you can no longer play the game at the pace you'd like to. You might just need a change of scenery, after all: you can't miss something if it isn't absent. I started going through my backlog of games in my library, checking out the other FF games for the first time, and trying other online games (The Old Republic, and recently started Warframe).
I'm not sure how much you like just grinding out content, but Eureka is worth doing if you don't mind the grind of leveling up and progressing through each zone until you get to the raid at the end... I'm sure you can get a group to go with you and powerlevel you if you wanted to... worth thinking about, the raid is fun (iirc it's somewhere between extreme and Savage, it was their testing bed for the DRS raid later, in Bozja). And you didn't miss the boat on Eureka either, it's still very much populated and active, there are people in the game who exclusively do Eureka, as it's their favorite content. There's also Discord servers who organize weekly groups to go through, get you leveled up and progressed, and then take you through the raid.
The budget issues are definitely glaringly obvious when you've been current with the game for a while... and I suspect a lot of the resources that could be put back into the game are being used to start development of the next MMO, but they just haven't revealed it yet. Of course it's also clearly going into their other IP's and the FF remakes, as you said.
Game should have ended at Endwalker. The moment the "power of friendship" moment at the end of Endwalker happened, I knew the game had shat the bed.
I'd love to see you try WoW, but it's a huge investment in terms of knowledge (also the keyboard + mouse control scheme). Either way I'll keep an eye out for more streams & vids!
30:17 32 yo gamer here - i think i can relate with what you're saying here.
for me, it comes down to "is my time being respected?" i like fresh new experiences and don't like doing the same stuff over and over. 1 hour of new content and then donezo is not working out for me. i unsubbed right after experiencing the 7.1 content. and i'm not a hardcore raider so i lose out on even more content.
not to downplay anyone else my age or older who loves these same daily/weekly grinds - power to them, but i want to feel more fulfilled in what i do in my experiences these days haha these grinds have been a drag personally
what pisses me off honestly with this game is how Yoshi tries to sell us things and acts like it's a massive amount.
like with 7.1, he kept trying to stretch it, meanwhile everyone can say "is ... this it? where is the rest!"
This game is making a lot of money, it's keeping SE afloat, yet they keep spending cash into NFT, DEI departments, projects that are likely to flop.
but also their budget for big games is still way too high, FF16 supposedly had a 59 million budget, at SE's 70 dollar price tag for their triple A releases would mean they would need to sell 842k ish units, which is manageable, but FF generally doesn't sell that much and we know that SE would 100% be announcing milestones and if it make a massive profit, knowing that they still haven't said anything tells me a lot.
but instead of re-investing back into the project that keeps their business afloat, they keep spending it on NFT/other things, for example that marvel game, or forspoken (fairly sure it was that)
apparently according to yoshi-p a lot of years ago, they only re-invest the mogstation back into FF14, which if true is horrible, the game makes a constant stream of cash, yet they just gimp the game.
But as you said, at the end of the day, we're consumers, it's not OUR problem, we want and NEED more content in the game, it's as simple as that.
Yoshi said that they added 2 weeks onto the patch cycle so the team can take paid off, not to sound harsh, but why is that my issue? why am I paying for their paid off vacation? (in a literal sense, since 2 more weeks = 4 weeks in 2 patches that I literally pay for their employee's to go on vacation)
I know people are against crunches, but also, why is it my problem? because it isn't, I just want a good product with enough to do, I don't need or want to think about "the poor devs" that's not my problem.
if you jump into Eureka, you can taste what this game could be. Hopefully we get more content like that, despite difficulty is not like savage, you can do some cool stuff in there, and gear actually makes you stronger, and you can feel it alot.
I admitted to this after finishing Dawntrail and letting it broil in my head for two weeks, and decided to quit three months ago. As someone else said, when the story is the highlight and the thing to look forward to the most, since content is all the same and predictable- what is there to look forward to when the story goes bad?
Well, after two months, I missed the game a bit, and the modding, but existence of Dawntrail kept me away a little longer, but eventually I decided to return... anew, with limitations, such as no market board- forcing me to craft and gather everything myself. I started a new character that I've been playing each expansion to 100% completions (up to a point, not EVERY relic, just few, that's just asking for burnout- but leveling every class to level cap of the expansion etc.) before moving to the next. It's been great, I also swapped language to japanese to get used to them before Dawntrail, and I even looked into making Wuk Lamat into a miqote, so when I eventually get there, she will sound at least a little better and not look bad. Dawntrail is probably like 5-6 months of gameplay away, so I'm not too worried anymore.
wonder how you feel about 7.1 now after the horrible dragoon change :/
@@ek9750 I’m a ninja main now 😬 if they wanted to cut down on dragoons weaves they could’ve gotten rid of life surge and no one would’ve complained. Now it’s suffering from the same problem as drk where the one minute burst is just empty feeling. Between the 7.0 changes and now this, it’s been dumbed down to the point where I’d rather play a different job sadly
@@99_Vit I feel the same as you, I switched to monk/samurai recently because of these reasons and now with 7.1 I feel like dropping dragoon completely which is sad because it has the best aesthetics and lore imo.
@@99_Vit I'm hoping for a complete dragoon rework at this point honestly.
@@99_Vit same here. since i started playing 4 yrs ago, i have always been drawn to DRG and MNK as dps classes and now after the recent changes with 7.0/.1 to DRG, i've dropped the job completely at this point and MNK is my main dps job now. what made DRG fun to play is regressing into another boring job that i don't even want to engage with. at this point unless its somehow reworked, not really interested in playing it anymore and the way how jobs are heading for some time now, i don't have faith in the team to turn it around honestly. unless they pull a rabbit out the hat at this point which isn't likely if possible really
just wait for MH Wilds to come out and grind that. Any other games u would want to do a walkthru for would be cool. Ur channel is growing as long as u keep the same theme it should keep growing naturally.
I’m also a music producer and i would appreciate watching and listening to ur work !
I kinda left the game in Endwalker when the content started to feel like a treadmill and while I returned and had hopes for Dawntrail - the story left me very disappointed and while I did play FFXI I am still not returning just for the alliance raid. I had dropped my sub after I finished the story and also felt disappointed with the jobs (specifically tank and healer roles) and how they had changed very little. When the jobs I liked stopped being exciting and being completely disinterested in the storyline, there is nothing really to keep me going. I couldn't feel like I wanted to commit to raiding on a role that has become boring. I have tried my hand at DPS but I really dont feel like raiding as a DPS - optimising damage for a battle isn't really my jam and I'm over the weekly content grinds honestly. I may return on 8.0 when they decide to completely rework the roles/jobs but who knows at this stage.
Ive quit end of september...and havent regretted since. Endwalker was already lacking in content...and Dawntrail...yikes...didnt even come up with a good story to enjoy. So yeah. Easy decision. FF14 isnt worth those 15 Bucks a month.
As a fellow high end raider (several week 1, 5/5 ultimates) I've been playing since 3.0, and the only advice I can give you is figuring out what things you like the most and stick to it, and unsub where there is no such content, FF14 is not an OTP game (for me personnaly I really enjoy progging a new ultimate/savage with my static, and I dont think I will get tired of it, like ever)
between 6.4 (cleared p12s week 1) and 7.0 I've been unsubbed for nearly a whole year, my static will start progging FRU early january so Im unsubbed since september (m4s week 1 + reclears) and I will resub early january (during this break I played several other games)
I think it's a toxic behavior to stick with FF14 even when you log on everyday and ask yourself "What there is to do", just unsub and play other games while you wait for a patch that you're interrested in, dont play a game you dont want to
I feel you, I have been feeling this way with the game for a while myself. I love it, I'll be around, and be back eventually, but right now, just not feeling it.
i took a break since 2 weeks ago, getting burned out from having to run group contents and trying to find people matching my time for raiding also and bored in general, just playing Black Desert and Metaphor right now and I'm still thinking to whether come back for 7.1 x_x
I totally agree with everything u have said. Gearing is the most barebones system i have ever seen, and the other problem is all the other content besides savage isnt really for gear, its for cosmetics or just catch up gear that u will replace anyway. If they cant figure out something unique, i would actually take anything! tier sets, gear that change how your class is played, more indepth materia/stat system...something! And the class design has also been very stale. They pigeon holed themselves in this super constrictive, every class 60 min burst/cooldown window that severely limits the creativity of job design. Especially when there is no gear to augment a different playstyle and no like subclass for each class, it gets boring very quick. This is also speculation, but the fact that Yoshi P said the job design stuff is coming next expansion doesnt give me a lot of hope for much change considering this expansion was suppose to work on combat design and more loot rewards, and it didnt differ much at all. I quit this game very fast after Dawntrail because the future just looked bleak. Really wish it was better! (I think i ranted more than u xD)
I wouldn't say the pigeonholed themselves into it, they did it because player feedback was enough they felt they had to, the community is literally regressing and wanting what they had in a way back in HW, when in HW people were complaining that they wanted what we have now. Job diversity was a problem because jobs like pal and mnk were basically the laughing stock of raid teams. Gearing in this feels like a godsend. granted I raid with a static so that is likely why it feels this way to me but i went and played new world aeternum with friends, diablo 4, older destiny 2, other "mmos" and the gearing was go do this possibly hundreds of times and sink hundreds of hours into it in order to get BiS rolled gear. Tier sets and set bonuses and sub classes would be in the same vein as cross-class abilities. 99% of players took the most optimal ones and only those, sure some players took some less used ones for the maybe one of time it was needed but again by and large every person will find the BiS gear and BiS subclass and either roll it or raid teams will demand you roll it so you arent a hinderance to their prog. will their be some groups that say it doesnt matter and we will work around whatever you want? sure most definitely, but there is only so many of those groups and those groups are less than likely to be able to network to everyone that would fit, which means you alienate another group of players again. SE and Creative are in a damned if you damned if you dont. they got here of player feedback and are now being whiplashed by player feed back to go back to what it was.
I feel the same, DT sucks.. yes the upgrade and some new fight mechanics are good but that's it.. it was the worse expansion ever as of story, characters. I lost any motivation for the game and i just feel nostalgic for the past expansions
I moved to FFXIV from GW2 after a low dip in the story of that game around the end of ShB and I'm moving back to GW2 now after experiencing a full patch cycle. Like you I've done all the evergreen content I was interested in, I even tried out raiding for a bit which is unusual for my normally very casual playstyle. The main thing for me was the story and 7.1 combined with the fact that everything is so extremely formulaic in every possible aspect of the game and that I can't play all my jobs anymore because they are all stuck at lvl90 in outdated gear and I can't bring myself to do the grind again was the final nail in the coffin. GW2 also had a restart after their decade-long saga and I just find myself more invested in that story, and when I get tired of working on my legendaries I can go do something else and pick up where I left later. I will probably come back to FFXIV to binge story eventually, maybe as late as 8.0, but for now my sub fee will go to steam/gog and new gaming experiences. :)
I'm on the other side of the fence, I didn't go hard on the game this 7.0 patch... I did msq, got savage week one and geared the jobs I might wanna play for ultimate, and the rest has been helping friends. Now I'm excited for 7.1 cause of FRU, I dig the Eden storyline and also will be the first time I have a chance at doing an ulti on patch, wich I haven't before. Chaotic alliance is a neat plus that I'm not sure I'll get into this patch, but still, it's neat that they are adding a new kind of fight.
You are definitely right on the business model. It's a hella expensive game for what content it puts out.
I feel like my break from it might come after getting FRU cleared, grab reclears if the fight is good and helping some friends with it if they also wanna go at it. And come back for the deep dungeon.
I literally just had this happen with wow about 3 weeks ago. I lived for m+ since its come out but randomly after one I was just like what am I even doing on cuz I don't even know if im having fun? im not burnt out at all either it just clicked in my head and now i havent been on in 3 weeks.
Yeah this happened to a lot of WoW Players. They don't realize they are burned out until they actually stop playing. Even in SL, and it is a bad expansion don't get me wrong, but so many people were like 'I have to do this. I have to do that. If I don't I am going to get behind.' and they should have known there was going to be a catch up mechanic later on. I feel like FF14 players are starting to have the same feeling that WoW Players had in SL. People don't know how to take breaks. I never really got burnt out until BFA/SL in WoW but it was because I felt like I had to be at RP events for my guild. I was subbed for like 3 years non stop and I usually took 4 to 6 month breaks before I joined the rp guild.
@ yea I’ve been subbed since vanilla and never felt like this even during the wod heresy days. Oddly enough when classic dropped having to level slowly through the game again and actually use my brain and weird items reinvigorated a lot of it for me. I’m in a weird middle ground where I love retail endgame but hate everything else. I wish I could have like classic leveling with retail endgame so no matter what I felt like I was playing an actual mmo.
There's no repeatable content, i've been saying this for years now.
You can only do Savage once a week despite having multiple classes leveled that could offer replayability by doing savage on those as well.
I hoped that criterion would fill the void of replayable content back when they got teased but it turned out to be just savage : lite.
There's nothing much to so in game that has replayability value so you just end up logging in for raid, then logging off for the rest of the week.
FF14 desperately needs something akin to m+ that you can do daily.
The moment when you realise that take away the story from this game, all you have left is a dumbed down outdated game. Every combat is just a stupid dance chore, heck even the arena is always a stupid square or circle, there is literally NO epic dungeon raid boss feeling.
This game is NOT an MMORPG, it’s more like a solo player arcade game with some team play
sounds like you haven't done an ultimate.
i randomly found this video, but ive said something in the past that people have been very against it, but to me FFXIV kinda died with the end of endwalker.
If they wanted to go forward with the game they would have to make a new rebranding of the game, same way they did with a Realm Reborn back when the game "revived" itself from 1.0.
They should have done a massive graphics overhaul, combat revamp, more in-depth chracter progression, etc. (as you also said on your video).
I didnt come back for Dawntrail, and all videos ive seen so far are just validating my original thoughts.
i think the way ff14 releases content is slow yeah but it benefits me since i can use that free time going out with friends and do other stuff and not just hang on my pc 24/7 feels rlly good atm
How you are feeling is fair
I do hope you enjoy the ultimate ❤
subbed to hear your thoughts about the DRG changes :)
I didn't think I would watch the whole video, but I did. Agree with everything!
@7:30
I havent finished m4s but man a week one clear sounds rough. Once you have everything whats the point? Your gear is going to be replaced by crafted sets next tier.
Its a glam farm at that point. And thats a stretch.
I can relate. Ive been feeling burnt out and kinda bored with the game. Sometimes I just log in and wonder "i should just do something else." Perhaps I should try getting into the harder raid content but im hesitant to do so. Looking forward to that chaotic alliance raid tho. So many players maybe I can hide how bad I am lol. Otherwise i just let my sub run out and come back later. It feels refreshing. I'd wish they'd give us more for PVP. I really took to that scene.
35:55 ive been waiting for the next expansion to make things better since ShB in all honesty. i really think ShB is when the game changed footing entirely, especially with job diversity which is VERY important for a game like ffxiv to feel good (despite what xeno says). SE is no stranger to bad decisions, the ShB noobs from asmongold and covid were just toxic casuals to put it lightly, praising all FFXIV is while doing brayflox's longstop... in my opinion that was insanely unhealthy for the development of the game and SE's mindset going forward, but only now is it catching up to them on a larger scale.
Only thing that makes me come back to the game is my character at this point. I'm 50/50 on coming back for the upcoming patch, but the current story is the Dragon Ball GT of FF14. I don't care about the world.
YoshiP kept justifying it by saying "we just tied off a huge story arc with Endwalker, so starting a new story won't be as good." It's like...no...the writing is simply not interesting. Dawntrail started with its brakes on the first 6-10 hours, and only improved slightly over time. The ONLY good thing for me was the final town (Solution 9; I love that place) and I suppose the final zone with the memory people.
If this patch is at the post-EW level I may be done with the game for good, and then just pretend it ended after the main EW story.
Your reasoning is much more raid-oriented, but my lack of excitement for the story has absolutely ruined my interest in trying more. Oh well.
Don’t feel bad about taking a break/quitting. Most, if not all, successful content creators branch out to different games etc. If anything, like you’ve said it’s a hobby for you, so do what makes you happy and experiment with different games etc. I’m enjoying watching your videos, because you’re very passionate about the game, but this should not feel like a chore for you to log in if you don’t feel like it. You have built a great community and I’m sure many will follow you regardless what you decide to do next. A bit off topic, but I never got a chance to thank you for your controller guide and hotbars, so thank you 🫡
Keep the channel because I will watch you play anything. You have a way of analyzing games that I think is valuable and could add value to the communities of so many other games. Have the community choose a few games that you haven't played before and I think people will be happy to stick around after XIV.
Feeling similar and went on break(although I didn't even try 7.1). I dunno if I would say I quit personally because I don't see the point in closing the door on a game but I def feel like it might be a long while (maybe 8.0) before I feel like I wanna play again. Best of luck if you quit on discovering a new game if that's a thing you're interested in.
helping people clearing ultimates is a safe haven for me. Yes it is old content, dead content etc etc. But their emotions are fresh.
It is a very fulfilling experience. I am putting my skill and experience to use.
I essentially play for others while having fun for myself.
Agreed. This is some of the most interesting replayability to me too. No doubt FRU clear parties would be fun and satisfying to help in. I just question if that's enough to keep me coming back
@@99_Vit well, they say that pauses are good for healthy relationships :)
I started ff 2 years ago almost. Loved it 100% but there are a lot of points you have brought up and I 100% agree. As a mch main for dps, I’m so sad. Endwalker mch was pretty solid imo for phys range. I also feel forced to pay my sub because I’d lose my house :/