Garmin Xero Chronograph - It can't handle this!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Function testing the Garmin Xero Chronograph against bows, air rifles, pistols, bolt action rifles, bb guns, airsoft, and...?
Let's see how it functions and reads all these different blasters.
Also taking a look at all the available mounting options for the garmin xero c1 pro chronograph.
Are you buying one of these? comment below.
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0:01 Introduction
0:30 Bow test
0:42 BB-gun test
1:00 Subsonic Pistol test
1:18 Shotgun test
1:42 9mm Pistol test
1:53 Airsoft gun
2:10 It's a mystery
2:40 Vudoo 22LR rimfire
3:09 Centerfire with muzzle brake
3:42 Mounting options
9:34 The rail I suggest
10:55 Viewer Question answered
15:42 Conclusion
Still on the fence about the Garmin? tell me why...
I love the form factor. Unfortunately, with where I'm at in my shooter journey, it's hard to justify the price tag of any chronograph, no matter the brand. That being said, the Garmin sits high on the list when the time comes. Great review, as always. Thanks for all you do!
@@lndependentMind A nerf gun
How does it detect velocity when attached or sitting behind the muzzle. Other brands track the bullet after it leaves the muzzle and to the from what I have seen are always positioned in front of the muzzle.
Have a few questions about power. Can the C1 be powered by the usb-c port and charge at the same time? Are the batteries user/factory replaceable?
Nope you talked me into it, I got it just be for Christmas and LOVE IT!!! THANK YOU for the review. I have only charged it once so far and have ran 50 rounds over multiple days still 3/4 charge.
I’m so glad I held off getting the lab radar, and bought the Xero
cool, thanks for watching
Just got mine last week. You really helped me to justify my purchase. I had no clue what brand I wanted until I seen an ad on this one. Thanks for the video.
no problem. thanks for watching.
I build rifles and use a chronograph every week. I have used the old Alpha, magneto speed, a Labradar for the last 6 years and nothing touches the garmin. I have a .17 fireball I built and my Labradar has picked up 3 shots out of about 120 rounds. It will not catch that 20 grain bullet at 3600 FPS, that was the ultimate test for the Garmin. The Garmin has not missed one shot from my .17 Fireball. I also shoot an FX air rifle, my labradar when set up perfect will catch the pellet but it has to be perfect, The Garmin, just throw it on the table and it never missed a pellet. Could not be happier. Needless to say, the labradar is for sale...
Nice. Thanks for the comment.
I purchased the Garmin a week ago, it showed up yesterday/Friday, took it out today and tested it on my F-T/R set up. 308 and it worked perfectly. No missed or dropped shots, I was prone with a bipod and used it on the tripod it came with and seemed to be awesome. Linked to my phone and transferred data as soon as I ended the session, I did the same thing you did, "why isn't it transferring to my phone..." Anyways it's gonna be my goto for chronograph info.
Thanks for sharing that. Glad it’s working.
a week!!! damn. must be nice! I'm going on a month after my purchase on the release day.
I was really hoping it’s was a Bug-a-Salt that it couldn’t pick up 😂
ohh I didn't even think about that one. dang it.
Was just about to say the same thing ;-)
Great video my new Xero arrived today can’t wait to get it out on the range
Thanks. Enjoy it.
I thought having BC was a must… but you’re correct it’s not a necessity. Im now seriously leaning towards the Garmin. I love the fact it’s so compact
I was debating on purchasing the Labrador because of its size. ( another thing to bring to the local range) where the Xero can fit in my current range bag.
Thank you for your detailed videos. Helps a lot!
Thanks for watching. BC is a must, but you don’t need a chronograph to give you that information. 🤙
Yeah. It's cool that Lab Radar gives you BC but, unless you're developing your own bullets, you can just get it from the manufacturer. I personally think the fact that the Garmin is so compact (meaning you'll actually use it) outweighs that ability to give you BC.
I have a lab radar since they came out. Of course it works but they are very temperamental to say the least and very problematic with suppressors and hassle and to aim them. I would personally, though I have only seen a handful of Garmin reviews , consider the Garmin. Or Wait and get a Lab Radar on a big sale. That’s what LR will most likely have to to do to stay competitive against this Garmin.
@@schoocg are you not using the quad pod and magnetic trigger?
@@ArpexOfficialmore stuff to haul around.
Had mine at the range with shooters on both sides and only picked up my shots. It captured every shot just fine.
Nice. Thanks for the comment.
Great video, I can't get over how small that thing is, and it seems like it works really well!
Thanks for watching! About the size of a GoPro camera. Pretty tiny.
I have been really pleased with my Garmin until the other day at an indoor range ( which may be my issue ) it will not register my Rock Island 22 TCM factory ammunition and would only record my 22 TCM reloads after I, out of frustration changed to the rifle mode . It did then record 3 out of 10 rounds of factory and if I remember correctly 8 of the 10 reloads. Otherwise I'm totally satisfied with the unit.
It does function perfectly with my recently purchased S & W 22 magnum pistol. It was a 25 yard range, the instructions with the Garmin does state it should be used at 20 yards but this has never been an issue with anything else I have used.
I believe that means it reads just the first 20y. Use it inside that distance. Meaning you wouldn’t setup the Garmin 50y downrange and try to shoot over it.
Apologies if I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.
Thanks for trying out with birdshot!
You bet!
I know what's going to be under my Christmas tree this year ;-)
Perfect!
I got mine in on Tuesday from Area419. I've been posting a few shorts getting a look at it in the evenings. Was planning to get out to my place Sunday and Monday to test it out. But we have got a load of rain and I might be rained out. But I have some things to test and post my own videos as well. I like the size and ease of apparent use. Good looks at it, dude.
Cool. Thanks for watching.
Nice vid. Just bought one and haven't got it yet so I appreciate your in depth testing. Honestly was amazed it picked up the Red Ryder. Thanks for your efforts from a new subscriber.
You bet. Thanks for watching!
You had me hooked from “and a special item” 😂
lol thanks man
Just found your channel great Vidja, been looking for a chronograph leaning more on this vs magneto just for simplistic…… you have a new sub
Awesome, thank you!
The magnetospeed works well too. 👍
I love my Garmin! Thanks for the videos.
My pleasure. Thx for the comment.
I got the Garmin Xero mostly to diagnose issues with my spring powered Air Rifle.
I own an Ohler 35, which is used to be the industry standard. I tested the Garmin Xero against the Ohler 35. The Garmin smoked it.
You have to have everything perfectly set up for the Ohler 35 to read. The Garmin never fails.
The size of the Garmin and ease of use is simply amazing.
I don't need the sky screen issues and wind problems any more.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
I am deeply offended that you are discriminating against the slingshot community again!😀Just want to say that I discovered your channel about a month ago and subscribed. Really enjoying the great content.
😂 Welcome aboard!
Bro, the spoilers!!!
Next they’ll want you to try it with spitballs. Maybe I could measure how fast my dog spits out celery that she gobbles up off the floor.
Slingshot community…most people call it California but, we get what you’re saying.
Me too! Didn't do pellet pistols, rifles and rail guns either...
The Garmin absolutely smokes the Oehler 35 chronograph. My Oehler is now garbage.
I can see one advantage to the garmen it doesn't have to be out in front of the muzzle .
True
Thank you for the informative video on the Garmin. You're correct, time to ditch the Labradar due to its size and inconsistent performance. In the past
Labradar was notorious for ignoring its customer's and not fixing software issues. If Labradar hadn't ignored its customer's for so many years, I would had gone with their new small chronograph. That's why I bought the Garmin chronograph yesterday and will be trying it out at the gun range this morning. My only disappointment so far on the Garmin is, I can't start and end a session from the app. Maybe Garmin can have a software update that will do that in the near future. Thanks again for the great video.
I agree with all that. That’s for watching.
Outstanding video! Exactly what I wanted to know. Will it pick up anything I am in the mood to shoot and it looks like the answer is yes. Looks like Garmin is going to be getting more of my money.
I think it’s a very solid choice at this point. I’m pleased with it.
Good to see it tested that way.
Glad you liked it
How RIGHT you are on BC - Nailed it !
Thanks
Just ordered mine. Luckily I'm in the aviation industry so I was able to score a nice dealer discount on it.
sweet! Thanks for watching.
Really looking forward to be able to get this here in Denmark. Have used the Magneetospeed for years. This seems so much easier.
Magnetospeed works well too. The Garmin is definitely smaller and easier to set up.
Thaks for the reply
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@@wvideoyahoodk you’re welcome 👍
Guess it’s time to sell my Lab Radar. Well done thank you !
Any time!
Ha mine is for sale too.
I purchased a lab radar years ago and as most of us thought it was the cats ass in the industry.
Large bulky and crap for power consumption. I always spent more time trying to aim it down range to get it spot on so it would work without dropping shots. The battery life is completely crap in the summer and in the winter, forget it, if you didn't have battery backup your not going anywhere.
I sold my LR and purchased the Garmin and I haven't looked back yet. There is NOTHING about the labradar that I miss. The portability and battery life has blown the LR out of the water so bad its ridiculous.
I know that LR has a new unit that looks similar to the Garmin so who at Garmin let the cat out of the bag.
I have even held the Garmin in hand while my son was shooting and it picked up the shots. Thats impressive.
As for battery life, It sips the energy from a battery like I sip a dry wine, all weekend baby and its still ready to go for more.
Garmin really did a great job with this unit.
Can't wait to see the gen2
I agree on all that. Thanks for the comment.
its a good product I have one, NOTE When you do your test video we need to see the Garmin screen as you see it.
thanks for watching
This is really cool. It is going to make an absolute killing (at least until something as compact and cheaper comes out). It seems to be pretty much sold out everywhere already.
Yep I agree
I'll be getting one when they are available here in the UK
Nice. You’ll enjoy it.
Picked up a Neewer 200 mm nodal blah, blah, blah aluminum for 23 bucks on Amazon.. saved me about 125 bucks over the 419. THANKS for the tip!
Glad I could help
This Garmin you are presenting here puts a compelling argument out for itself. Much easier to get into action then your standard Lab Radar. I’m not sure what I’d use the BC calculation for aside from just verifying what the BC on the box was. That being said I’ll most likely choose Lab Radar as they are Canadian and so am I but it’s still up in the air.
LabRadar is still a good unit when it works, and it works most of the time. It can just be finicky and it’s big. Either way is good. 👍
The labradar app blows. Looks like Garmin app might be a lot better
Thanks 👍
No problem 👍
I wonder how very close this is to the Garmin R10 golf launch monitor. Probably the same guts with some different software.
I agree
I ordered one of these Garmins even though it was backordered. For a while, I had been contemplating buying a Labradar, but it appeared to be very big and cumbersome to where you'd need a standalone case to transport it with, unlike this Garmin. Just find an empty spot in one of your gun cases and off to the range you go. If nothing else, it's small enough to fit in a cargo pants pocket.
I agree. The size is a positive. Thanks for watching.
I got the newest Speedtracker Mach4+ a couple weeks ago and its great no errant shot detections. However i wish i got the garmin due too i do mosty indoor pistol stuff. I setup the speedtracker on a small tripod at pistol height and it does great but i wish it had a screen. It worked fantastic on a rifle outdoors. Maybe i get both.
Cool. I’ve enjoyed my speed tracker. It has worked pretty well overall.
My Labradar doesn't track the bullet much past 100 to 120 yards or so anyways. For my .224 88 ELD-M bullets it doesn't track it much past 80 yards, so I'm not sure how "great" a BC number you'll get from that.
Thank you. Exactly.
I've been lucky recently and getting consistent tracking out to 98 yards on the 88 ELD-M bullets using the Labradar. But the SNL (signal to noise) ratio is usually bad so you can't really trust that those numbers are accurate past about 85 yards.
Just heads up to anyone with a garmin xero c1 pro. I contacted garmin directly and asked about the mounts like he used in this that mounts the chrono the the side of the rifle via arca or mlok etc and garmin directly told me that the mounts are 3rd party obviously and because of that any use of the mount with the chronograph voids the warranty completely from that point. So if you use the mount be careful is all im gonna say because technically if they can find out you attached that chronograph to the mount at any point during the time you owned it the warranty is voided from that point on.
Weird because Area419, who made the first mount for these, consulted directly with Garmin prior to making their mounts.
I want my chronograph to not only track BC, but also AC, and DC
🤪
FYI- Indoor it is incurring some missed shots. Working with Garmin on it. It may be confounded with EFI from fluorescent lights… we will see.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info! Ordered mine today from Scheels. Now getting the mount off Amazon since I’m impatient and don’t won’t to wait on area 409. Should have never have gotten a magneto speed sported since it will not work with tuners or suppressor but I guess I can use it to compare.
Thanks for watching
Gotta get one!
Indeed. You’ll enjoy it.
Would like to see a comparison between having it mounted on a rifle or a tripod. Specailly something with fairly heavy recoil. Want to know if any readings are different or start getting lost shots
literally everything I'm seeing so far is positive. There may end up being something it can't handle, but I'm most likely done testing for now. It's better in my opinion than my LabRadar, so I'll just trust it and move on. If I get any issues, you can be sure I'll make a video about it.
Amazon arca rail adapter, aluminum strap and a 1/4” hole in it with a bolt done.
cool. thanks for watching.
I have been very interested in this unit. I like what I've read and seen here. Not sure I would trust mounting it directly to a rifle, especially a large caliper magnum.
I’m being told it’s good to go but haven’t tested it myself yet.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork I think I'll wait. I'm not sure it would hold up to 338Lapua recoil, at least not for long???
@@grantensrud9185 yeah I don’t know on that. I’ll probably try it at some point. If mine breaks I will definitely be letting people know.
thank you for both videos. I'm considering this chronograph as a LabRadar replacement, but I still don't know how high repeatability it works. I found the accuracy to be 0.4% ok, we are talking about absolute accuracy, but what is the differential accuracy? For me it is essential, because the SD of my rifles is even 0.4 fps for 25 shots in a row! and if it is not capable of recording very small changes in speed, then it should be useless.
You’re welcome.
Hmm I’m just not sure on that.
I wrote them directly to Garmin and they told me that the chrono should measure differentially very accurately at the decimal level, so I guess the only thing left to do is try it.
Great review joe 💪🍀🇮🇪
Thanks 👍
I am getting one for Father's Day. I am trying to figure out how to mount one to a pic rail on my hunting rifle.
Options are coming.
Check GrayOps and keep an eye on MK Machining.
Great video
Thank you sir!
I planned on getting one next year after the initial rush of buyers eased up but my magnetospeed started failing recently so I guess it's time to keep my eye out for a Garmin. Good part is I don't NEED a chrono right now so waiting is no big deal.
Cool. Thanks for watching.
Love the idea of this... especially as a reloader. One thing I am trying to solve for is indoor range shooting. I've heard it works well there, though I think the min distance is per Garmin supposed to be >=20 yards to target. I've also heard that shooters have had great results as short as 10 yards; Has anyone out there tested that? Would love that flexibility.
it honestly shouldn't matter what distance you're testing it at. It picks up shots from right next to the rifle out to 20 yards. Am I understanding your question correctly?
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork For some reason, my last reply did not post... I was referring to Garmin's comments in their owner's manual under Alignment Considerations, where they state "Always ensure the projectile can travel at least 20 meters or 20 yards in front of the chronograph." I suspect it is due to the nature of the Doppler-based system, but was curious if they were just being over-cautious in their recommendation. From what I've seen from other shooters, they seemed to get decent results at 10 yards. Like you, I did not expect distance to target to matter, but there you go.
@@mobilejonnyoh I gotcha. understood. I'm guessing they are being cautious. Probably something someone should test eventually.
I received mine on Saturday, and went to my club range. Shot outside at 10 yards. It did not miss a single shot out of 100 total. 50 out of a .22lr pistol and another 50 out of a .38 special revolver. This 10 yard range is outdoors but it has wall on both sides and a ceiling.
Other than the obvious click bait thumbnail, great video. I also have a Labradar for sale, the only problem is that I can't find the Garmin in stock, anywhere in USA or Canada.
Thanks for watching. It's not clickbait if I actually deliver on the assumed message of the thumbnail, which I did. The Xero failed to pick up the fps of the nerf gun.
Great video but you did use a catapult 😂
So clad I didn't rust out and get the fx will definitely getting the Garmin 👍👍
Hope you enjoy it!
The destructions say that the projectile should exceed 20 yards downrange. Maybe why the toy didn't get a reading?
Good point.
I also got an email from Garmin pointing out that it’s not made for nerf or airsoft. lol
Good info thanks
No problem 👍
Great video.
Thanks!
It appears that the Garmin doesn't have any issue with suppressed guns. I have to use a 'recoil trigger' when shooting suppressed with the Labradar. If the Garmin has solved this issue, I'm definitely getting one. Thanks for your efforts.
Cool. Thanks for watching.
I would really like to know how it performs on an indoor range and with pistols.
I'm told no issues at all. haven't personally tried it at an indoor range though.
How does it connect to cell phone Bluetooth or Wi-Fi signal
Pairs with your phone by Bluetooth
What about a Super Soaker?
😂 dang, I have failed. Should have tried that.
the initial BuulletSeaker Mach 4 has given lots of shooters problems so the Manufacturer fixed it and calls it the Mach 4 +
problem is no-one that bought the Gen I has indicated their BulletSeaker has been fixed or replaced with a Mach 4 +
lets hoope the Garmin Den I is not the same
thanks for watching
Any idea about if it works on an indoor range? I’ve heard that the lab radar didn’t have to best luck with it and I steered towards the magnetospeed
I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. Not sure though. Haven’t tried it. 🤷🏻♂️
Looking forward to seeing testing against the other units. Prior to making a choice
That videe for me might be awhile. Need to move on to other projects. You can definitely find comparison videos popping up daily here on YT though.
How is your AR mounted on the wall behind you? Is that a locking security mount? If so please share the details. Thanks!
Basically this www.amazon.com/LULACOOL-Vertical-Standard-Magzine-Holder/dp/B0C4L8KTVW/ref=mp_s_a_1_40?crid=1TZ0RHCCC7RUV&keywords=AR+wall+mount&qid=1706676372&sprefix=ar+wall+mount%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-40
My only concern is WHERE does it record the velocity? Does it capture the velocity consistently at the same distance from the muzzle each time? Like the first shot could get recorded at 4 yards, and the next could be recorded at 13 yards. How can we KNOW with the Garmin what distance from the muzzle is it capturing the speed? The Garmin already gives a "calculated" MV number based on where it picked up the bullet to begin tracking it, just like the Lab Radar does. I can't say I love that. At least with the Magnetospeed we KNOW EXACTLY where it is recording the speed, and it shows you the raw number, not a "Calculated" muzzle velocity based on some algorithm to calculate what the MV might be at the muzzle.
I hear what you’re saying, but I just don’t think that couple FPS of potential error matters, especially when you should be truing out your data at distance anyway. No matter what the chrono says.
The info on the box of ammo, chronographs, etc. are all “try dope”, then you test it in the field and get actual data.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Totally agree, my comment was more for the wider audience. It can make a big difference for shooters that do "velocity driven" load development and those searching for super low SD/ES loads thinking they are the holy grail. The if the chronograph is only giving you a "calculated" MV then you could be chasing your tail forever when the problem could be that the chronograph is tracking velocities of each shot at different distances from the muzzle and then displaying a "calculated" MV based on where it began tracking that bullet.
Yeah was about to pop for the magneto speed and this one came out
This seems like a pretty good option to me. Magneto works too tho.
I ordered mine directly from Garmin. First day is product launch. Still waiting for this to be shipped to Canada :-(
That sucks.
I’m guessing they didn’t really understand how popular this thing was going to be. Production is probably behind schedule.
thanks for the video sir!
Can you do a comparison with Labradar, SK4 and Garmin about the speeds at the same position? It would be interesting to see if there is a difference here.
Yes 👍
That video is coming asap.
Will it work with black powder ?
I don’t see why not, though I haven’t tried it personally.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork the big cloud of powder burning is the question. I know it affects the crony but will it effect radar ?
Hi! I am kind of a tech enthusiast for Garmin stuff on the fitness side of things, but I'm also curious enough to check what the company does in other fields. I've watched several Xero videos, and I think I kind of understand now what the unit does. But.. do you have a video explaining, how and where this information is useful? I'm really not into shooting (although I still have my longbow), but I am curious, if there is a simple explanation for n00bs. Thanks!
Hmm there may be videos out there, but I think I can explain it simply. We use muzzle velocity (the speed of the bullet out of the end of the barrel) as well as the time of flight of the bullet and gravity to determine how far the bullet will travel. These calculations help us know how far to aim above or “hold over” a target in order to have the bullet hit the target we’re aiming at.
Think about shooting a cannon back in the day… they had to aim it way up in the air right. The cannon ball would arc way up and then come back down at a certain distance. This is basically the same thing we are doing with long range shooting. The chronograph just gives us a very important piece of the information we need to be more accurate when we launch a projectile into the air.
Please feel free to ask any follow up questions.
@@PrecisionRifleNetworkThank you! Yes, so far I can understand this, and the physics behind it. What I am not sure about when and how you use that information. My way of thinking is:
1) you can use Xero to measure this velocity for a riffle, ammo combination. If no one has done it before. I would assume, that the same riffle with the same ammo has roughly the same values (or has similar deviation as seen between shots) So if someone already measured it, and put it into a table online, you can just look it up. If not, you can measure it yourself with Xero. (I'd also assume, that temperature and whatnot also plays a role, I'm not sure how significant though)
2) In a competition, if you have several shots, you make a calculation for how much to aim upwards based on these values, the distance, angle (I guees that is what the ballistic models of Garmin watches can help you with). But there are other factors, that influence drag. So if you see, that your first shot was 10 cm below, you can adjust better by knowing the velocity right there.
3) In a "real life scenario", like hunting or mission I'd assume that you only have one shot, after that the target moves, so precision calculations are out of the window at that point.
So basically what my "deduction" tells me is, that these chronographs main usage is in "preparation" to have better values for the calculation when it matters. But they do not provide help "during action". Then again, I don't know anything about shooting, so I am probably completely wrong, that's why I'm asking 😀
And thank you very much for your time and explaining it to me, I really appreciate it. 🙂
@@MateHegyhati Sorry to man-splain it, but I do appreciate someone outside the shooting community showing interest.
There are at least two applications where a chronograph is necessary: First, as @PrecisionRifleNetwork pointed out, muzzle velocity is a vital data point for ballistic calculators. Every rifle is different so you can't just use the muzzle velocity printed on the box of ammunition (two identical model rifles will behave differently because the tooling that cuts the chambers wears down, and because there is magic in there, besides the ammo manufacturer probably used a different barrel length than you might have). Long range competitors or hunters use a laser rangefinder and enter the distance and other factors (principally the muzzle velocity) into the ballistic solver (on a phone app or a portable weather station like a Kestrel, I'm not aware of any ballistics function on a Garmin watch and I'm on my third one) and it yields the amount of "come up" or hold-over so you can dial the turret of your rifle scope for a specific distance and environmental conditions.
In a hunting scenario its still important to know the muzzle velocity of that ammunition load. Some shooters carry a "DOPE" (Data on Previous Engagements) card listing the turret adjustments for each yardage interval, and there are laser rangefinders built into some binoculars. So the "preparation" phase does carry into the field.
For more on your musings about "drag," read up on "ballistic coefficient."
Second main use is for ammunition reloaders in order to know the performance of a certain combination of primer, brass case, powder type and charge weight, and projectile type and weight.
Big bonus of this chronograph is the form factor as much as the reliability.
@@bobvi5490 Thank you very much for the EXplanation, I really appreciate it. Sorry for the long response time, work have been... busy. So if I understand correctly, two guns with the same model number can have different muzzle velocity with the same ammo, and this difference can be significant compared to the "natural deviation" observed for the same gun with the same type of ammo. (This also implies that the gun used with the same ammo later can be expected to have similar muzzle velocity.) That is clear, and the hold-over calculation as well. So basically, each gun is unique, so these calcualtions has to be done for each gun - ammo type pair, not just for gun type - ammo type pairs.
So going back to my original question, the chronograph is really mostly used in preparation, then the data can be used for calculations "in action". But of course, if the data is also measured there, it also adds to the accuracy/consistency of the data used for later calculations. Hope I didn't get anything wrong.
(Also thanks for the reloader info, I didn't know that is a thing.)
For ballistic calculations on Garmin watches, I know of this one: support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=L0R2b03k7EArLmL5CvJsD6
Thanks again!
I just ordered mine. Would love a link to the adapter pieces you are using. Also, I shoot steel so any issues using the Garmin on steel? Thanks
just do an amazon search for "slide nodal rail" and you'll come up with several options of different lengths. I've had no issues with the Garmin at all.
Thanks. Ordered this yesterday & the little brown truck brought it after dinner. Went out and fired 25 shots and it worked perfectly.
Zar je problem pročitati naputak za uporabu prije nego se proizvod koristi????
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How fussy is the Garmin Xero with alignment to the target? I'm a Palma shooter, prone unsupported with a sling. I purchased the bullet seeker thinking I could place the unit on a tripod just in front of me and get information about the performance of my ammunition without affecting my shooting position. It turns out that the bullet seeker is so fussy about alignment with the bore that I have only achieved reliable readings with the bullet seeker attached to the barrel. Can I just set the Garmin down on the ground in front of me (on it's supplied tripod) and get accurate measurements?
Not fussy at all. You don’t have to aim it. It just needs to be pointed in generally the right direction. There are a couple of “rules” to follow though. It has to be a certain number of inches away from the gun.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Thanks for your reply.
I'm sure you went into the menu and selected bow, air gun, pistol, etc... but my question: did you enter weights also?
I entered weights for the real guns. Although that’s only necessary if you care about the energy.
It would be nice to have replaceable battery.
Can you export the data ?
I agree about the battery. Yes you can export a text file.
Sweet
Thanks for watching
Are you worried about the short one year warranty? Or is this gonna be a device where it either breaks right away or mostly runs forever like a Garmin GPS device?
I'm personally not worried about it. As long as people aren't abusing the thing, I'm guessing it will run a long time. Garmin generally makes quality durable products. I'm betting on that I guess.
@precisionRiflenetwork can you link the rail slides?
the specific one I bought is no longer available. search amazon for Rail Nodal Slide and you should find many brands.
Joel what setting was you using to get the shotgun to register ?
Pistol. I figured it was going slower.
Just fyi, Garmin says it’s not made to detect birdshot of any kind.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork I was working up some loads for coyotes today couldn't get it to read any of the #4s. it acted like it was going to then just went back to zero shots. ill play with it some more in the pistol setting
You have any luck? @@holdleftedgeandsendit9351
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Thanks!
What settings did you use for the shotgun with birdshot? I can not get my Xero C1 to work with them. It has however functioned excellently with suppressed firearms.
FYI - garmin reached out to me and said the Xero is not designed for birdshot. That being said, I used the other setting and chose the slower fps setting. got lucky i suppose.
I was gonna ask the same question. I just got mine and as part of my testing, I was hoping to get chrono data for 20ga TSS/Steel duplex loads. I only got data on one out of five fired shots. I was messing around with location of the barrel to the Chrono, but not very scientifically. Since you mentioned how you aligned your shot maybe impacting capturing data, could you elaborate more on that? I’m aware that Garmin says it’s not supported, I’ve enough posts that makes me think it’s possible, but not necessarily consistent.
I found out same thing today, I tried 5 rounds and only one gave me reading. Guess I wasted my money on this thing. Does great on rifles however
@@clinte9897 You can even use it to adjust the speed of a pump BB gun to calibrate ballistic gelatin. Maybe someday they will a firmware update that allows it to work with shotshells.
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Not ghosts...alien ships.
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How good is the battery life?
I haven’t had to charge this one yet, but I’m not sure honestly. I’m only using it about once a week for 10min at a time.
Manual says 6 hours, however you could get a small battery bank with the correct USB cable to give it power for extended sessions.
@@Majeskty thanks
There's a LOT of LR on sales at this moment😅😅
Haha yep
Is it rated for gun recoil when mounted it to the rifle ? 😢 how many rounds will it take before internals give ? There is a reason garmin sends tripod with it not mount ! It wasnt designed with area 419 , no where on their website it states it can be mounted on the rifle and internals will survive recoil! Just because area419 made thr mount and sells for it , i doubt it will survive long
If I’m not mistaken Garmin and Area419 collaborated on it. I think it’s probably able to handle the recoil. But that’s a guess.
I’ll be running mine on rifles. If it breaks, I’ll be letting everyone know in video form.
Do you plan on having it constantly mounted to magnum caliber rifles?
@@oif3vetk9 if you're asking me, my answer is no. I will rarely use it with magnum rifles as I only own one of these.
Mines going right back for a refund. Garmin requires you to create an account inorder to use the app. Also, one of the apps permission is to use your contacts. Really. Don't think so.
I hear you but you don’t have to give it permission to use your contacts in order for the app to function. Also, just create a fake account. Also, also, I don’t use the app at all. It’s kinda pointless in my opinion.
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I want the data saved on my device, so the app is a requirement for me. I'm not going through the BS, so back it goes. They won't get my business . Thanks though.
I only wish it had replaceable batteries.
Same
can it be used for paintball marker?
Since airsoft works, I’m guessing paintball would be similar. I sold all my paintball guns years ago so I can’t confirm that for you.
paintball is about 300fps
Tested everything but the staple gun😅
haha dang it, I forgot that one.
Joel tries clickbait!! Watch till end
😎 except it’s not clickbait. It’s only clickbait if I don’t do or say what the thumbnail suggests…. I think. Man I don’t know, I just want people to watch the stinking videos!
Well now I have to go test mine with a nerf gun in the basement...
😂 it needs to be done.
I’m thinking a blow gun too!
BC calculation out of a chronograph is a non-issue. Hornady already debunked the idea of tweaking BC based ballistic solvers with their 4-DOF library of bullets.
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Misleading title?
Not really, I did answer the question, or rather the statement that I posed with the thumbnail.
It’s only Clickbait if you say one thing and do something completely different.
I don't care about bows or air rifles. Hope it picks up handguns and rifles.
It picks up all the things
Labradar is a hot mess. Garmin is a labradar killer 100%. Get a good solid velocity and true your bc by truing at distance...the bc read out on labradar is a null point in my opinion.
I agree with all that.
How about selling a poor working man the lab radar at a good price
Sure thing. Let’s talk. Joel@precisionriflenetwork.com