Mercedes EQS SUV | Doubling Down on Tech
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- We review the Mercedes EQS 580 SUV, a flagship electric car with luxury features. We discuss the pros and cons of the technology, driving, and engineering. Starting at around $125,000, this EV is not for everyone. However, the direction of this vehicle shows what is in the future for Mercedes. Others to consider are the BMW IX, Tesla Model X, Porsche Taycan, Genesis GV70, and Rivian R1S.
#cars #technology #luxury
Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior
3:54 Audio Tests
4:42 Mechanical Impressions
6:32 Driving Impressions
12:58 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
I’ve never seen Mark so enthused about a car! He’s dripping with enthusiasm and excitement!!!
I wonder why?
Mark channeling major Turbowski energy for this video.
The Tesla you can get for that money is incredible
‘The technology is a circus sh*t show.’ Concise and accurate description!
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Don’t worry, MKBHD will call it a tech marvel and masterpiece.
A *fingerprinted* circus sh*t show.
@@GBFZetaHah, yeah. I wouldn't take his opinion on cars all that srs, much, lol. He talks about cars (EVs) that are 60/70k minimum- the i7 he did is not a regular everyday car fs. Although he made fun of its look.
Still, mostly luxury/"chaffeurable" cars. He's a tech reviewer not a car reviewer, no mistaking that
In the 50s and 60s the stylists had the last word and we had interiors that would kill or maim the occupants in the event of a collision. Now we have interiors, still deigned by stylists, but they will be the cause of the collision, which you may survive, but maims and kills others too. Progress?
Auto manufacturers be like: "Let's add more distractions."
Auto manufacturers also be like: 'Let's add more safety features to save you from the distractions."
But also, let’s charge you more for both the distractions and added safety features 😂
@@LezOLee its the goal...to bleed you of more and more money while taking away your choices for not having these things
Sometimes I wonder if the people who design and put together these cars realize that aren't going to be stationary when they press those buttons. Any screen or button system that you can't use properly with your peripheral vision should be discontinued.
All in an attempt to make the products more expensive and pad the bottom line
All part of the plan to enslave you. Breeding ineptitude and dependence serves that.
Ponder the poetical connection of Klaus Schwab and the fact that Mercedes Benz is Swabian (schwäbisch).
I appreciate the honesty. Every other review just throws some subjective garbage at it and then repeats what's in Merc's description.
i didnt know there where even other reviews XD
I appreciate Jack breaking it down for us during the test drive, but the look on Marks face was during the drive was all I needed to hear.
You can hear the look on somebody’s face? Are you a bat?
Whether he was asleep or beyond annoyed, all I needed to know.
I can taste colors.
@@sirmingusdewiv8325 Bees and dogs can smell fear.
@nomenclature9607read, yes....hear, no.
That exposed foam is embarassing... i hope this is a prototype
even in my 2019 E class the foam is exposed when I extend the thigh support. I noticed it one day and could never unsee it since 😂. Looks really shoddy imo
Nope, the foam and seat covers in most Mercedes seats are pretty cheap
Press vehicle that got damaged
@Mark I mean that seems reasonable. However. I have seen so many terrible people abuse there cars for years and this doesn't happen. These are car journalists. I think they would have a bit more respect I think it's definitely build quality issues from MB.
@@baronvonjo1929 there is no car more beat to shit than press cars
Mercedes: We heard you like things that break, so we put things that break on things that break, so when your things break other things can break.
Planned obsolescence
bro, if ANY of that dash breaks, thats going to be SO expensive. youd have to replace the whole goddam slab
@@bradhaines3142I'm waiting for the first person that cracks it like an iPhone 😂
@@bradhaines3142 I know the Manager for a Mercedes dealer and he told me they have an EQS in to replace a hyperscreen, the ETA on the repair is TBD. The screens are apparently hard to get.
@@bradhaines3142 The good news is it'll help fill up the landfills!
The Mercedes s580 i had for about a year had so many glitches in the tech that i had to sell it. Best one was when the computer wouldn’t let me close the gas door.
LOL
so funny, glad you sold it
I'm only liking and commenting to support you guys, because this vehicle brings together everything I hate the most.
I know. Name one thing you like about this car?
Errrrr the acceleration
It's a shame and ironic that these "sustainable" cars are truly "disposable" like they said, since tech will age very very quickly.
Servitude of the Devil, which is increasingly exposed as being widespread, iconically attempts to pervert all truth into its opposite.
A parasite can only eat a host by convincing it to be a friend.
These luxury-gimmick boxes can no way be the face of sustainability in EVs. The EQB is one of the worst..literally a throwaway, waste of everything. It doesn't even have half the tech that's in this thing, but. Soon as I heard Savagegeese talk about it I was already unsure of MBs electric only products.
evs were never made for sustinability and reducing emissions in the big picture of things
Because it's all propaganda lies.
These are less disposable than their ICE counterparts. Batteries are very recyclable whilst gas is literally burned up to move ICE cars.
Ugh. Between the amount of tech that *will* fail and the janky seats, I'm out.
150k for poking out foam is wild…
rather get a prius of fb marketplace and spend the other 147k pimping that beast out
@@SplosionMoviesOmg dude putting 6 figures in a Prius you would be paying out the nose for insurance.
You declare mods to your insurance company?😅
@@pigeonpoo1823 do what with whom for what reason? /j
@@markm0000 Paying for insurance on a modded car?
When a company makes products like this it exposes their values
$139k. Ah. How nice an appliance vehicle costs almost as much as my first house.
Man I wish houses cost anywhere near that much nowadays.
Shhhh... The auto industry and it's entire fan-boy support base are still ignoring the fact that it is now the 21st century and cars are just transportation appliances.
I genuinely felt bad for Mark while I was watching this video. I can’t imagine having to hold my tongue in such a way. Appreciate you guys very much.
Based on the title I have a bold prediction about how much the boys will like the car, and how much I would like it.
I'm really happy Mercedes is getting back to their roots with quality, durable cars that can be passed down for generations. I feel at peace knowing my children's children will be learning to drive behind the wheel of one of these. All for a reasonable price.
I think you posted a comment on the wrong vid, bro.
@@trevorsutherland5263 I am a traveler from both time and space.
All will be revealed….if this is it then I’m disappointed…
@@trevorsutherland5263 this is sarcasm, my friend
I’m gonna rate the sarcasm here at 8.4/10. Tastefully done 😂😂
That hyperscreen is as big as my ex wife Debra
You're so right.
Mercedes needs to step it up. The overall quality is not what it once was.
Modern Mercedes “quality” and “craftsmanship” is just cheap screens from China and gloss black plastic.
The death of Mercedes.
@@faheemabbas3965just like Mercedes last generation Mercedes when they introduced the screen across the dashboard was the best gens of Mercedes amazing classy best in the class
You're at least 10 years late to this meeting.
Have you seen the MB target market?
The industry is slowly moving away from the "Piano Black" that you couldn't touch to screens everywhere and touch GUI. The irony! If you get in a bad wreck with all the fingerprints on the screens, they will likely find out who you are/were.
Auto manufacturers have lost their way SO HARD. It's insanely sad.
Doubling down on tech and doubling up on price
Prices have gotten absolutely stupid.
I agree. All of these cars are turning into the same nonsense. It doesn’t matter the brand or the model.
Because the Dollar is becoming worthless !
It’s not going to sell when you know what else is available. It’s going to be highly discounted.
They can charge 200,000. The same people aren’t gonna buy it.
@@deand6411 I bought my first 3 homes for less than this thing.
Zero interest in this overpriced appliance, but I have all the interest in your take.
Thank you for another HDR video!
I'm surprised safety regulators haven't put restrictions on what can and cannot be used for touch screens like cell phone regulations
Car manufacturers have a long history of getting away with stupid design/tech fads that defy safety principles. Special weight on lighting systems - HID, led blinkers etc..
@@Dowlphin they can afford to just ignore it until they’re forced to change stuff
@@Tfish64 I have difficulty believing that, since there are safety standards to comply with, so if a new car model is made, it would (or should) have to pass a check by the same authorities that check safety of cars in use and who put technical safety labels on all kinds of other products.
I'd say it is a form of corruption instead, and/or gray area exploitation. They simply don't have a spine towards big industry.
Although there are things like Dieselgate, but there it was a complex political matter with lots of ideological lobby power and maybe the rules were more clear-cut.
Hm, actually, not really, because they got away with it at first, too, so one has to wonder how that can be. AFAIR those who are tasked to check for such things just allowed a deception to go through.
@@Dowlphin I think i did a bad job of explaining what I meant. I’m just referencing the fact that car companies always do stuff/ implement technology into cars until they’re told they can’t do it anymore. This is due to the lag between implementation of new technologies and legislation to ban/restrict dangerous new systems. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the next five to 10 years, car companies will have to reduce screen prevalence due to legislation/ other forms of laws/regulations emerging from heightened safety concerns.
@@Tfish64 Or industry-servile government will demand further self-driving technology and calling people unsafe to drive vehicles.
$1,000 to paint a car white, do these people respect their customers?
Money ≠ brains.
Industry standard is $400-500 for white/red paint. Luxury brands usually jump it another $500. White and red paint are harder to make, so those are the two colors you'll typically see costing more on any brand.
@@Miatalustrium Then why are they free on most regular brands and you pay more for fun colors?
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 not all paint is created equal
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 when you get the chance go examine a Mercedes why paint vs a Honda or Kia product. You'll see the difference the gap between Toyota paint work and Lexus paint work is blatant.
Cars like these is the reason why I bought an old school V8 SUV. SG nails it talking about disposable vehicles and this is the definition of it. Mighty MB has shyte the bed with this thing. Great review as always…
Yup, bought an older LS last year. It's great.
LOL Mercedes definitely has not crapped the bed...... This type of vehicle appeals to most that enjoy their products, and one's that can afford it. But it's definitely not the vehicle that carries their business forward. These EQ models are test vehicles, products to keep them within the "new" EV period. As like this car, that old school V8 SUV won't appeal to everyone either. In comparison, it may have one of the following: poor gas mileage, poor safety features, bad ride quality and insulation, road noise, a lack of creature comforts offered in a luxury vehicle today.
True, it is a vehicle that is disposable for those with disposable income. At the end of the day it is as SG said “laughable” at $125-150k.
your SUV literally burns gasoline to move, how is that not disposable?
I hate screens and intense tech pushed at you.. give me simple analog looking clean design. Porsche has it down, this is going to get tired soon. Plus this car just looks so average.
They're trying to produce these vehicles as physically cheap as possible and trying to see what we will put up with in terms of quality
I don't think you're supposed to own this car for more than 3 years. That's a pretty low bar.
:13 Thirteen seconds in and a kick in the nads for Mercedes. As a fan and owner of their classics, I say BRAVO. Their vehicle build quality and service experience are worse than average, certainly far from luxury.
Can you imagine buying this over a Cayenne. Hell soon the Lotus Eletre will be offered at competitive pricing and that seems quite a bit more interesting and composed design wise.
Remember when people laughed when Pimp My Ride shoved as many screens as possible into a car?
I absolutely love how you guys just tell it like it is… No sugar coating👍🏾
Damn, it’s like these manufacturers are so desperate to barf up EVs they’ll cut corners and slap lipstick on any pig for the dumb masses. Note: I am NOT against EVs, but am against this whole ‘gee whiz’ shiny objects for people with more money than brains. Case and point, this product.
This video looks so good, better than other previous HDR videos. I guess you guys invested a lot into the colour grading, etc.. Appreciated
*OK, seriously, WTF now?!* This one specific video stands out for all kinds of picture messup, and several people are gushing over its quality.
So no, SG has done HDR videos in the past that looked great, but this one specifically, at least on a non-HDR-display, looks messy, and I don't think that's meant to happen.
I love the audio tests! THANK YOU SAVAGE GEESE!
Exactly! You’re the very first person to mention the problem with trees etc being distracting as they reflect off the dash while driving. I have the same problem in so many modern cars. Both piano black trim and screen real estate are culprits. I actually looked for a matte film to reduce the effect, but haven’t yet found any.
As always -- I appreciate the SavageGeese perspective of a vehicle. Thanks for being there for us!
Wonderfully shot and scripted thank you for the content SG!
HDR looks fantastic in this video! Nice work!
Did he just say $2,500.00 per month on a lease?
Plus tip ❤
That's only if you get the white paint. But seriously...
I'm editing what I wrote explaining that one could find themselves with $2,500, but per a site after I wrote a snarky-but-factual answer, apparently most leases right now for "well qualified buyers" is half that or $1,250 range.
This said, I'm not sure how Mercedes won't be eating its lunch at that low (yes, low) a rate for residual in three years considering like most German cars it will depreciate nearly half in that time.
I also get the vibe that in order to cut costs even more beyond the materials they are really trying to cut costs on the design labor by having fresh engineers design this aka how general motors does it
I would say GM has some good ideas coming through. But totally still have a lot of baggage that makes them worth not buying. If I was offered either a Mercedes or a Cadillac EV I would go with the Lyriq or that new sedan thingy they are making. Just more impressive to look at.
didnt he say the materials were good?
All of Marks complaints are valid and true. So much screens etc. It’s overwhelming. Cars are technology on wheels. As a younger buyer, who’s coming into my “spending years” who’s grown up with technology, I love it. All the screens, technology, etc. So much you can do etc. I love that shit. I wish there was more tactile and physical controls but so be it. I do appreciate the analog era and miss it, but because I’m younger, it’ll be a lot easier for me.
Love when you upload in HDR!!
I see a lot of EQS sedans and SUVs on the road here in SoCal. Interestingly enough, I've yet to see one with a "Hyperscreen", which honestly doesn't surprise me at all.
I love this channel. I know exactly which vehicles I'd never own.
Imagine the things that can break down with all the electronics and cost to repair that down the road, keep it simple appears to have been lost somewhere along the design journey. Appreciate the honest review as always.
These reviews are genuinely good entertainment
Here to watch Mark shit on this pile 🤣
This is cool and all but like.... With this much technology there is no way it will all work correctly in 15-20 years.
Also, how ridiculous is it that there are electric "AMG" models... So much for 1 man 1 machine.
They 100% do not care if it works in 15 years
@@khailils446they do not care if it works in 5 years….
All the OEs I believe design to a 10 year life in many cases
10 years after they stop production is when they are no longer required to have parts support IIRC. All these tech heavy cars will be a nightmare in the future. TBH all the early EVs are probably going to be very disposable anyways. Who will want to put a replacement pack in one when it wears out.
Thats what Mercedes has always done, the early 2000s CL had active Body control and screens, its always a Technology showcase
I’d rather have the gv70 electric for half the price and I’d be happier.
I'd be depressed knowing I blew $130k on that half-baked turd.
have fun with it catching on fire
@@TheSnoopy1750id be more depressed driving around in a hyundai
Hell, I'd buy an excellent Rav4 before that Merc POS. Poor Geese, having to review such things. Ah well, guess they can't all be Vettes, BMWs and Porsches 🤨...A Man has to put food on his table.
Only Savagegeese is capable of seducing me enough to watch a video about this premium automobile.
I found myself more impressed with the camera equipment and editing proficiency you guys use/have.
Weird you say that, because this video was full of different styles of bad color and lighting. I am wondering whether it looks OK on an HDR display, but it shouldn't be incompatible with non-HDR.
@@Dowlphin looks great on HDR, but there are some inconsistencies. That said, coloring HDR footage is tough so it’s just gonna be a learning process for their workflow.
@@SixSpeedSeven And I don't understand where exactly the difficulty lies. As a layman I imagine you have parameters that you can tweak and then you look at the result and if that looks close to real-life, then you've done a good job.
I have seen those super-pale shots in the past, in many non-HDR-videos, so I wonder whether that's a deliberate stylistic choice that I don't understand.
But the rearwards shots often have such overvibrant greens for example that the reflection of the vegetation on their faces looks like moss growing on their cheeks.
man if u guys could get a lucid id love to see it! keep it up!
Thank you for yet another intelligent, honest and useful review. The interior technology is a true deal breaker. Having to take your eyes off the road is clearly dangerous. Isn't this why it is illegal to operate a cell phone while driving? Having driven extensively on the Autobahn, I found that above a certain speed I couldn't even bring myself to glance at the speedometer and I had my wife call out the speed. While less of an issue here in the States, it illustrated to me how much distance a car travels during a glance away from the road. Further, the glare from the instruments at night is tough on anyone with glasses. Many people over the age of 50 start to have difficulty seeing things up close. If you are far sighted and don't have progressives you will have difficulty. It would be interesting to know how many accidents are caused by driver inattention due to interior touch screens. Does anyone have these data? It would be a fascinating story. Personally I get extremely car sick using touch screens while driving. I may be unusual in this regard- it would be good to know if others suffer from this. Lastly, your long-term review of the MDX Type S now looms large. Normally Acura is not on my radar. But your review of it (except for the transmission) was really compelling. And now the new Cayenne - one of my favorites - just came out and the interior is almost entirely touch screens. As far as I can tell, this leaves the MDX Type S as one of the few SUVs that is nice to drive whose major interior operations can still be performed with physical controls. If that car is truly on par with some of the German rivals, it may be the last refuge for people who dislike or cannot use touch screens in this segment.
bro what’s the fucking point of writing this much😂😂
Love to see the HDR option back!
I really appreciate the HDR. It looks so much better than the traditional videos.
Man this HDR video is super bright
Perfect review...very objective and honest gives the viewers the decision making if this car is best suited for them or not.
Isolated. Numb. Sounds like it's made for depressed people
@@zo.v1601 for a reason…
@@zo.v1601maybe just normal people who want a comfortable car? whats wrong with that? who the hell likes getting beat up on their commute daily?
A screen to see my maps, a great audio system, ice cold A/C, and good supportive seats. That’s all i need. The rest of the effort can go to safety and driving dynamics.
man 125k is absolutely bonkers
9:00 same problem with my 2023 Lexus NX350H. Break modulation is horrible.. My other Toyota/Lexus hybrids had no probs, but NX-h brakes has issues!
Three tons! If we were really serious about the environment and efficiency, then reducing weight of vehicles is a good place to start.
Batteries are incredibly heavy.
The wall of screen at 13:55 is wow.
Holy smokes, these colours are great. I thought I had seen HDR content before, but this is on a whole new level. Great video!
You can use the MBUX voice system to adjust the parameters (massage seat...), so you do not have to navigate through menus while driving.
I wish there was statistics to show this is what is needed. Yes touch screen is popular but are they chasing the trend?
Honest review! Comment for that algorithm!
I appreciate the 4K HDR option btw.
I'm going to buy two of these. For the resale value.
On any given day, you encounter stupid and distracted drivers. We've all seen them and have avoided (I hope) accidents screaming at them to get their heads out of their butt when they drive.
So, Mercedes builds a car whose dashboard is a video game. What could possibly go wrong?
I was at a dealership for a GLB a little while ago and my wife had left me to deal with sales after her approval. Didn’t get car but had a bunch of time and asked to test drive the EQS while waiting. God damn it’s nice, however, I think many people like myself prefer a bit more of an analog experience. My wife’s boyfriend prefers the subtle tech of my wife’s XC60. By far it’s leagues behind in regards to tech but after driving the EQS and getting over the wow factor of a new luxury EV, the T8 powertrain on my XC60 is just as quick and preferred the not so in my face amount of tech.
"I want the whole dash made of reflective glass. It's gonna age really well"
-Nobody
What are those enormous star-shaped fasteners used on the front LCA/ball joint?
The excuse they give for distractions is that the car can stop itself from crashing. This teaches people that they no longer have to pay attention and leave the responsibility of crash prevention to the car. Sad.
Well the truth is these cars will see the crash coming far sooner than the human would. Aeb isn't being mandated because it's ineffective.
Seeing the number of fingerprint marks all over these giant screens would absolutely drive me insane every day.
Ungraded footage at 6:42?
Indeed
Every MB vehicle used to have exposed door handles that could be gripped and hooked for easier opening, especially after a crash. Maybe the door handles on this car are programmed to pop out when an airbag deploys, but this is certainly not a "safety first" design.
how long till we get an EV that isn't a sensory deprivation chamber?
Taycan
Ik this isn't related but does the 4k HDR look a tad bit "off" in this video? Maybe it's something that OnePlus fucked up on my end but compared to other vids this looks sorta blown out.
Bravo, Mercedes, for raising the bar yet again!
I hope you will have a chance to look at one of the italian options competing against the germans today
Agree! I did spend my money on a regular ICE SUV, albeit it partners a BMW i3 EV.
The infrastructure isn’t there for my needs yet and I’ve a larger, more useable car that isn’t blighted with touch screens
More or a reason to save the manuals. Gives you a purpose and reason to be attentive on the road.
Thank you for not parroting MB and acting like the dashboard is a single screen.
Long term watcher and SG cheerleader. Just a consideration for your channel when reviewing 'everyday/appliance EVs', maybe not this luxury one. It would be insightful technical data point for you guys to present 'charging curves' which could be a useful talking point in comparing against competitors when applicable, like against the BMW iX in this case.
It seems to be an important datapoint for individuals interested in traveling those short road trips like 2-4 hours out and back (charging once at your destination), like a local ski / weekend trip out of town.
at keast ix looks nicer inside and sounds nicer lol
It looks like a very nice Acura. That’s the nicest thing I can say.
I wonder if it is possible to have in a car speed recorder or something like the black box in plane for safer driving
All cars have had this for over a decade. Police can see exactly how fast you were going when you crashed and when you braked. It requires a search warrant to access so it's usually only done in fatal collisions.
The moment a breakthrough in battery technology occurs all these BEVs will be obsolete much like PCs in the 90s with the big YoY improvements.
No why should this be the case? A breakthrough in batt tech will make batteries smaller (geometrically) and the cars lighter but what else? The OEMs may choose to give the cars more capacity, although I doubt it. 150kWh will be the maximum even in luxury department cause that's enough for like 750km without recharging and why would you need more? For the little people 100kWh will be deemed enough. Now trucks like the Ford lightning will be a different matter, cause towing reduces range much more.
I do like my ev suvs showing a bit of foam 🔥
That is a $500 option.
Base model Lucid Air is $138k ($1299/mo lease deals on the website at the moment), and they're bringing out the Gravity SUV soon.
You can get Lucid Air on lease for half the monthly payments of this. Unreal.
I wanna see you guys reviewing the newest El Cheapo Mercedes EV model which does not have all those screens.
Do you have plans to make a video on any Rivian's?
We did but it never happened.
I am not a fan of the interior - I drive a GLE with the new-ish style MBUX tech - just a screen for driver's dash and one for the middle, but I still have physical buttons for climate control. I like it - they should have kept this design. The big screen at the center console in this vehicle is too much. Then the new GLC looks a bit silly because of this too. Hope they tone it down for newer gens. Always love how Mercedes cars drive, very smooth and quite compared to competitors.
How many of these do they sell?
but what are James Cameron's thoughts on it?
Wiring and ton of electronic chip will be the bane of this vehicle.
HDR FTW!🎉
How much is it to replace the batteries in 8 years. The resale value would be close to zero unless you replace them which I hear is
around 20-30 thousand dollars
The Flying Lizards? That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.