If this isn't Mercedes but China made car, my first impression would be..... "potato"? By just flying that Mercedes logo in front, it upgrades into ...."premium elegant.... potato"?
@@LogicallyAnswered have you checked their other vehicles? Mercedes is making a lot of butt ugly cars like that, ESPECIALLY in the premium segment. I always thought I just don't get the "rich people car aesthetics" or whatever.
I have a feeling that European cars will only become luxurious brands, in light of affordable chinese cars flooding the world market. Luxury brands: sell around 1000 cars per year, with 1 million dollars per car. 😅
You mentioned the cars’ look but I think you missed a point: the EQ models look actually CHEAPER than their ICE equivalent. After so long, I do think that car designer should have learned that piano black is not a premium material: it’s only cheap, glossy plastic. It looks like MB has been pinching pennies to recover some of the higher costs of the electric drivetrain.
As a German performance ICE fan, I love watching the EV market fall on its face. Mercedes also announced the dropping of the 4 cylinder hybrid engine in many AMG models in favor of bringing back the 4.0L turbo V-8 due to abysmal sales. Oh happy days!
@@993mike Amen. As a GL550 owner, no Mercedes (outside of diesels) should have a displacement below 4.5L…and Im being generous. My personal favorite engines are the M156 (AMGs first in-house engine) and the M120, so size-wise, you KNOW where my head is at!
@@993mikeWell, narrow minded fools like you won't laugh for long. There is no other way than EVs. Brands falling onto their face will just make individual mobility a lot more costly in the future. A 4.0 L Turbo V8?😂 They can't afford to keep that on the market. That's just how legislation is nowerdays. These cars will end up as overpriced unicorns.
What I wouldn't give for a Mercedes that has a long-range reliable diesel engine, simple design, and an interior with buttons, knobs, anything tactile. I want to buy a Mercedes, but unfortunately the only ones matching that description are about 3 decades out of date.
@@LogicallyAnswered Only problem with classics is that, even "million mile" old cars need maintenance. I'd love to see them take their old designs as close to modern tech as possible without trimming them beyond recognition.
I have a 1993 W124 300D Turbo (OM603 Turbo). It is perfection. Or, at least it would be if it was brand new. What I wouldn't give for a brand new W124... Currently looking into getting the cleanest 400E that I can find. I'm also considering swapping my OM603 Turbo to a less used OM606 Turbo and tuning it to 400-500HP...
when Mercedes discontinued the CLS and S-Class Coupe, I knew that the era of beautiful iconic Mercedes modes had ended, and so too my interest in this brand.
@@petercollingwood522last Mercedes I had was a 2001 S500 tuned by Lorinser imported from Germany. The car was absolutely sick... but one morning I woke up and the car was completely on the ground... the air suspension had 100% failed. The cost of that repair put me off Mercedes forever. Now I buy Audis... and am much happier
I would have to disagree. Yes a classic look of a gas car looks great (except the newer bmws). But when it comes to electric they have less milage than gas so reducing aero is important. Also loon at hyundai. They used electric cars to redefine themselves pretty well. Also their cars look sick.
I agree, aircon can just have a button, so can cruise control, and many other things, who over complicate things? Also what worries me is that when I look at faults in cars it is very often electrics that fail. I simply think people have overreacted with EVs, slow and steady would be better, but I can understand manufacturers being afraid of being left behind I suppose.
The important thing with buttons and why i honestly wish screens as used today weren't legal is you can manipulate buttons without looking at them. The current trend of pretending drivers don't need to look at the road but contrary needs to stop, we aren't anywhere near that yet.
@@Ottobon I agree, thats why they made buttons of different sizes and shapes; you can identify them by feel. its a huge safety advantage. Also, if the screen breaks you can adjust nothing at all, a total loss of all functionality, I just can't see the sense in that at all.
At least there should be a fine luxury conventional dashboard as option as Jaguar had in former times. A wood leather analog clock version with high quality massive aluminum . Not this chinese chrome
Ford Taurus was an egg and a best seller. So was Windows 8. But Harry is right, people who buy a new car every other year are into status and not thinking of the "common good" like saving the planet. Give them what they want.
Fun fact, my neighbor bought an EQS. She came back to the car a month later with a bunch of electrical problems due to the wires being wrapped in a factory soy-based material that was chewed on by mice any chance they got, inside, outside, everywhere. In fact the EQS even attracted mice to the garage for that reason. Now the car needs a whole new wiring harness and she is lemon law ing the car as result.
Merc has been doing very DUMB things with their wiring, did they forget the bio degradable harnesses a few decades ago? Soy based insulation on electric wires? REALLY??? Fucking hell merc 😂😂😂
Someone has yet to explain to me why, in the UK at least, I would get 6 penalty points and a hefty fine if I was caught operating the touchscreen on my phone whilst driving but it is perfectly acceptable to operate a stupidly complicated built in touchscreen whilst driving. There are some of these which literally require you to navigate three or four menu levels to move the air vents for God's sake.
As long as they are preparing themselves. I bought an early electric car (I sold that piece of cr@p Nissan Leaf, 3 months later before the battery died on me). If I had an actual electric car with a good battery I would be happy. My solar panels are overpowered for this reason. I’m ready. Guess I’ll have to get a Tesla or a Chinese car.
@andyandreou the prius prime, while a plug in hybrid, is equivalent to an ev most of the time. It has around a 40 mile ev range just on battery. Unless you do lots of round trips greater than that, it's functionally an ev
On the point of change of CEO, I used to work at Mercedes during that period, and Ola brought in a LOT of changes which were purely on operational efficiency. His tenure brought an engineering driven company to sales driven company as it was his background. There were a LOT of structural changes, like major ones like splitting of Daimler into 3 subsidiaries for cars and vans, trucks and finance. In management side lot of departments we split and reformed. It was a chaotic time and Tesla was a boogieman throughout the quarterly meetings and decision making.
The split off into 3 subsidiaries I never quite understood. I did not like Ola whatsoever and still don't. Right now Mercedes carline up is a hot freaken mess. The other thing I did not like with Ola is that he sold off and closed all Mercedes owned dealerships. THAT IMO was a major mistake.
It's not about efficiency, it's about range. People who buy luxury, see range as a luxury aspect because few EVs can afford to offer good range and still be competitive, so it's usually reserved for the premium brand that have price tags and status to support it. However, the issue isn't the efficiency, it's just that the look they went for is trying to blobify a dated Mercedes idea of what their DNA is. It's a fallacy of many current automakers, where they correlate "family feeling" and "brand DNA" with very specific graphic looks and details. How does the grill look, what's the shape of the headlights, do we do cuts and angles, or sloping surfaces -etc. And that's the real issue. The companies have forgotten that the lines they design aren't their DNA. The REASON behind the lines, that is their true DNA. Mercedes presenting their star logo proud and prominently in the center of the grille and on the hood, the DNA isn't the placement or the shape of the grille. The DNA is the fact that they're proud of the symbol their heritage carries. But modern design departments and execs are too focused on the style of graphic design without considering the reason behind it. They could easily have made a vehicle that would rival Lucid in efficiency, while carrying the air and presence that the Mercedes heritage deserves. yet they didn't. They simply lost touch with what the Mercedes brand means, and now they're suffering from it -as are many other companies like BMW and Alfa Romeo etc.
Well, efficiency in EVs and ICEs are completely different. Charging a battery is not as fast as filling the tank. So I’d argue it is an important factor in very expensive cars.
Yes, once car buyers understand miles of range gained per minute of charging, they will care _more_ about efficiency. Even saying "The all-new Allanté charges from 10-80% in only 25 minutes!" misses the point; it's how many miles of range you gain in those 25 minutes.
It's usually very close, you guys should just get over it. Most of the people do fast charging once per month of usage. Otherwise, it's just charged at the driveway. Instead of that, support 22kW charging with AC, it'll do a better job in countries with better electricity infrastructure.
You would need a C or C1 license to drive the Hummer EV in the Netherlands, but not like you mention because he is so wide.. But because it weights more then 3500kg.
I don't think they even considered The Netherlands as a point of sale for their product. The Dutch is not wealthy anymore, it's a city sized country with communal economy.
@@imBugra I think the #1 reason for not seeing any hummers here, is because they are too big for our cities to even find a parking spot another reason the high fuel prices here..
I bought an EQS 580 with rear wheel steering as a replacement to a Lucid GT. The Lucid was loaded with bugs and grossly over priced at $155K so told them to take it back. Already owning a Tesla model S, there were no other luxury EVs to consider than EQS and we had a long history with MB. I don’t mind the egg shape because range is paramount, not economy. I get about 380 mi range on average and sometimes over 400. A big chrome, fake front grill is a turn-off. Give us a light bar and star on the hood. Their rear wheel steering is fabulous and will look for it in our next EV. No more gas cars. Hyper screen is great because spouse can make adjustments more easily. Mercedes standard autopilot on highway is better than Tesla because it does smooth lane changes. I hate the stop/start button and want walk-away locking like Tesla.
@@Jlw79 I would hardly call that car a success. It sold, yes. Successfully so? No. There's a reason it didn't last as a staple vehicle in their lineup.
Average people don’t need anything other than a Corolla/civic on the road. They don’t even know what tires they have, which is almost the most important part of a vehicle. I often laugh when I hear someone tells me their cars have 400 500 600 700hp or more. 90%+ people can’t even handle a 300hp car on track.
as someone who tracks their car on the weekly, you are 100% right. I have a 455hp tuned gs300, that is more than hard to control. ive seen people with cars making under 250hp be absolutely overwhelmed
@@tshegofatsokgoroba6753 Agreed for daily driver/grocery getter if you are an enthusiast unless it's really light. You can still have fun without endangering people. I used to daily modified, 9s superbikes. You are looking at jail every day you play around on them.
Older Mercs were stately and handsome-looking because they were distinctively 3-volume-esque. You had engine bay, you had driver/passenger bay, you had trunk bay. Today everything is so 1-volume that I struggle to define which body type the car is: sedan or coupe? Liftback or hatchback? WTF? Give us back streamlined 3-volume designs and make sure the car doesn't look overly aggressive or as featurless as EQS was.
they took a very steep gamble and lost it, just like VW with the ID lineup.. at least, by doing a whole different linup for the electric cars, it's easier to just cut the ties and pretend they never existed and it was a collective hallucination 😆
@@Zoltan1251 it's part of the German culture. They think they need to save the planet (see lowest possible drag coefficient). They do not comprehend that the EV (especially Tesla) is a new status symbol.
Spending $billions on EVs is a gamble car companies have to take. Tesla took 1.8 million car sales away from combustion engines; Hyundai/Kia EV sales are going great; Chinese cars are making excellent EVs at all price levels. And transportation is one of the easiest economic sectors in which to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, so governments will correctly continue to push electrification of cars. And despite all the fossil-fuel-funded misinformation people spew in UA-cam comments, every car owner who cares about the environment and can afford one will buy an EV.
The luxury sector or wealthy people are not really ready for EV. That group of consumer do not really care about fuel efficiency nor fuel Tax. They probably needn't focus more on a more efficient hybirds
@@bondgabebond4907 2 to 9 kW of onboard power supply for work sites is very useful. Many contractors don't drive long distances or tow much in the Lightning is fine for them.
I think the issue wasn't styling its price. The EQS featured the same tech found in the C class. Then BMW and Tesla did really well on their cars, offering more range, more tech, more performance, for less money. Mercedes just didn't read the market correctly. I would've bought a EQS if it was E class priced, not at 100k though.
imo Most modern cars look like self replicating blobs in colors of grey black and possibly beige. I can tell you how many times I mistaked a honda civic with a hyandai forte.
Emission standards be like: force everyone to downsize engines while everyone chasing bottom dollar and offloading manufacturing to Asian countries and mining lithium for batteries increasing emissions in process.
@@thecompanioncube4211 I know, right? I mean, why not use gas and diesel that basically grows in green fields while the petrolflowers also feed the bees or something, I don't know. Point is: Petrol good, Lithium bad, no need for numbers or anything.
@@thecompanioncube4211 you are utterly lacking in common sense if you think the emissions from making a 1/2-ton recyclable battery pack are remotely equivalent to the emissions from mining, refining, shipping, spilling, then BURNING the 5+ tons of fossil fuel that it saves over 100,000 miles. Every recent analysis agrees an EV is better for the environment than a comparable gasser; the only debate is whether it pulls ahead after 30,000, 15,000, or only 10,000 miles of driving
What I don't understand is how a brand like Daimler-Benz has gone so far with all the gaudy, gimmicky features, like the showy exterior lighting, illuminated badges and grilles. the multi-coloured interior lights, showers of the three pointed stars (e.g. in grilles and lights and wheels) etc. It all seems so frivolous, infantile even. It should be about the engineering and that WAS the brand!
The thing not really addressed in this video is that MB really half-a**ed all of them when it comes to the EV parts. On launch there were THE WORST performing EVs on the market while being also the most expensive. Low range, low power, small batteries, not particularly practical and costing 10-20% more than the comparable e-trons or teslas. Anyone cross-shopping them would rightly put them at the bottom of their shopping list. Nickel and dimming customers for extra range or power for a monthly sum also didn't help. The 100% touch interiors are now after a few years making automakers realize people still want buttons. They learned the hard way that just because it says MB on the front it doesn't mean it's an instant buy for wealthy customers.
just to inform you, the title is a bit clickbaity. MB cancelled their MB.EA Large EV platform which is suppose to launch in 2028. The MB.EA Med is still there. the MB.EA Large is for the S-class, GLS, E class and GLE. if you wanted a C-class, CLC or the EQB that is in the MB.EA MED. They are still going forward with their current EV platform EVA2. which the current EQE and EQS are using. a simple websearch could have brought up the articles that would bring up the relevant information. if you want to say "MB's EV platform demise" make sure its all their EV platforms, not basing it in SEO headlines.
If you give a damn about the environment you would keep your car and instead invest 50 of your 100k in renewables and with the rest help the poor and sick.
Sure, we can all make better choices to reduce environmental harm. But someone who "has to" drive a lot and buys a 95 MPG equivalent Mercedes-Benz EQS will cause substantially less environmental harm over the life of the car than if they bought a 24 MPG S500 gasser.
The new designed s, e and c classes are so ugly when compared to the previous models. They went from being the best looking of the luxury German lineup to the least attractive
@@NONO-hz4vo there are still hundreds if not thousands of brand new ICE 2022 F-series trucks still on dealer lots and they’ve halted construction on new EVs.. I wouldn’t exactly say sales are booming by any means. If it wasn’t for fleet sales ford would be completely SOL
@jordanschellhase2952 They still sell more than anyone else and fleet sales are next to zero profit. You can't argue They are at least doing something right to be selling as many as they are.
@jagersama9792 that is true. Almost no one is doing well with the EVs. Probably need a few more battery refinements before the capacity and charge rate is good enough to sway people.
Great content. I am wondering where these depreciation numbers are coming from. If I go on to Autotrader, the asking price for a used EQS is nowhere near 40% lower than new. How did you get these numbers, and where can I buy such a depreciated car (in reasonable condition from a reliable shop that support my purchase if I need service, etc)? I understand the trade-in value may be terrible, but that isn't where I can purchase a used car with such great depreciation. Pls help me find these discounts :)
Well, the EQ Sedans are called „bananas“ here in Germany… that says all.. The modification on the EQS front is nice, but too late and it’s still a banana.. And the new S Class? Unfassbar not a Design masterpiece, too 🤔✨
we think HE would know how youtube works by now... this is not a music video. let's hear the guy talk instead of some random bs music used to fill bg noise...give me a break. this is why smart people are really stup id in real life.
I own an S Class. When the new EQS was introduced, my dealer had an invite only event with an EQS under a car cover. I had nothing to do that night, so I went. When they lifted that cover off, there were audible gasps from the audience. I laughed my way out of the showroom. What a hideous thing. The dealer won't even take any unless it's a sold order.
In my opinion they are sabotaging their amg division too. Not only do they started releasing formerly v8 models with 4 cylinders that sounds less appealing, but they also weigh significantly more due to forcing hybrid systems and awd (mainly to push straightline numbers like 0-60 and quarter mile), which is is generally undesireable on sportscars. Although other german brands might have been doing the same, I believe that the biggest weight gains goes to amg's recent car models. Fine-sounding v8s are basically the identity of higher end amgs, and they're currently slowly getting rid of it. Hope they eventually figured that out too when the sales plummets.
Hey bro just a little rec from me, please refrain from making the background music so loud that you are bearly understandable (e.g. minute 12). Other than that great video as always, you are easily one of my favorite UA-camr creators right now 💪
i wonder if this ceo is the reason we ended up with a 4 cylinder c63, as far as ive heard that decision has gone poorly with customers as the car isnt selling well. plus the chinese (everyone else too) are confused by them selling cars with the 53 badge that have a 6 cylinder then the 63 badge which is a 4 cylinder.
These EV disaster news gives me hope to be able buy my dream car with a V engine one day. The tech and thinking about environment is ok but there is a word called 'feeling' which is missing in these cars. I hope in the future somebody fix the issue by giving both and hopefully brings back physical buttons and knobs like Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolls Royce.
The thing is everyone with eco cars and cars just for transport need a EV or public transport. Everyone who like cars and driving will either get fast EVs or used/niche new ICE cars.
Maybe we just need to grow up. I also like everything about older cars, design, buttons, engine sound, apparent simplicity, metal on metal, but with a bit of emotional intelligence you can quickly realize that it's mostly nostalgia and the ideas and "feelings" that YOU have assigned and attached to them.
If you don't mind the jellybean look for three years, the leases on the EQ stuff are outrageous. They lease for an amount equal to gas cars costing half as much.
The look has nothing to do with sales. Tesla's cyber truck is an example. It looks like garbage, and yet still people buy it. They're hipsters. Meanwhile, people aren't buying that many Mercedes EVs, because Mercedes customers aren't fans of EVs.
@@Aggie4life77 And it's EV. Garbage. Audi, Mercedes & BMW customers, are not EV fans. Meanwhile, hipsters are Tesla fans, and they will buy the most ugly car ever, but it's tEsLa. If they wanted quality, and they don't care about look, they would buy that ugly Mercedes car, not ugly tesla car. But it's not about "look".
@@jdalbion Dude, EV’s are the future plan and simple. I don’t know why you dumb but is sitting over there thinking it’s some type of fad. You know what, think what you want, I will like to see you go buy a brand new ICE vehicle after 2035! You’re talking about hipsters. It’s f’ing government regulations!
The Cybertruck isn't purely ugly though. Its also striking. The Mercedes is just ugly. Some people like the look of the Cybertruck. Nobody likes the Mercedes.
Because with my EV I’ve spent roughly $700-$1000 a year on total registration, maintenance, and charging costs. My Pontiac Grand Prix with a V6 cost me at least $120+ a month in fuel costs before anything else. The biggest reason though, is that I’m a tech guy and not a car guy. EV’s fit much more with what I am personally into. My stepdad is a total car guy and has done mechanic work as a hobby his whole life, so of course he should get an ICE, it’s what he’s into.
i'm young and fairly new to cars and have rarely driven an ice car in my life and i don't get it when people say they want these buttons and knobs and car's machine noise and vibrations my cost for driving an ev is really very low, maintenance is low as well,driving and maintaining an ice is way more expensive EVs acceleration at any given price point is way more than an equivalent priced ice car,and i really love fast acceleration
@@divitkarekar5803 Wait until it's time for a battery replacement. EVs hit you hard with that cost instead of requiring small continuous investments. Also, EVs feel dead. That is no fun to car people (which, to be clear, I am not).
One of our neighbors works for Mercedes here in my hometown (in Germany) and of course he drives a current EV. Always when he enters our Cul-de-sac and I'm on our driveway close to my VW Passat with an age of 10 years, I think "damn, the Passat is such a nice looking car". Don't know what they thought, the strict and clear design line is gone and the look is anywhere cloned from organic looking asian cars together with some parts from "the future". Strange, very strange.
Here is the deal: Germany isn't a free market capitalist country anymore. It doesn't matter what customers want. Germany is outright socialist. Let me explain why: the government quota is around 70%. So 70% of the economy isn't decided by people, but by government spending decisions. And the other 30% are highly regulated anyways. I'm sorry, but that isn't capitalism anymore. That's worse than east germany, the GDR, was under "Communism". That's 5 year plan bad. In 1870 the highly militaristic emperor had less than 10%. EVs are a fad, a super bad idea that some bureaucrat made when he had no clue, but did it anyways. It's not what customers or free manufacturers want. It's a Trabi.
You can’t charge $100k for a vehicle that is outcompeted by many other vehicles in the same class. They should have subsidized it and sold them at a huge discount to get a foothold in the market.
The interior quality and level of detail was about a galaxy away from how an S-Class should be, and the price was ridiculous. Very happy that they didn't sell many of them. People are luckily not completely dumb yet (but we're getting there)
Model S remains an excellent premium sedan for the money, Model Y is the best selling car in the world, and Model 3 is an excellent midsize sedan for the money. It's trendy to dump on Tesla for many reasons, but 1.8 million car buyers bought one last year instead of a gasser. Car companies were right to panic over the threat from Tesla, and now even more so the threat from Chinese EV manufacturers.
There are so many issues that it's difficult to find a starting place. The smooth front is not an issue. The issue is the gloss-black plastic with silver lines trying to pretend its a grill. If it had been body color, maybe with a design, I would despise it less. Big screens in cars are not an issue. TOUCH screens in cars are a major issue. I refuse to choose my driving mode, AC, or radio by touch screen. Why? Because I can't do it by touch. I have to look. They should be called Look Screens whenever they are installed in a car. Every car I've driven, I could adjust those things while keeping my eyes on the road. That's impossible in these death-traps. One more thing, EVs frequently add complexity for complexity's sake. Stop it.
Ola kallenius will be the death of Mercedes, they've made so many questionable decisions in motorsports, amg division, design, engine selection etc. since zetsche left, i don't even recognize the current Mercedes.
People duped by fossil fuel misinformation won't acknowledge how terrible burning tons of gasoline in a combustion engine is for the environment. If you drive more than ~4,000 miles a year, buy an EV!
@@skierpage even if all pertroleum cars and vehicles were switched to electric tommorow, it would only result in a 29% reduction in emmisions, what's your point?
@@cosmicblox934 and 29% would be huge! We need to rapidly reduce emissions from all sectors of the economy to reduce the multiple worsening harms from global warming. Cars and the rest of land transportation are relatively easy; agriculture, air travel, construction, shipping, and many industrial processes don't have low-carbon alternatives that are close to the same cost as emissions-heavy business as usual.
This is the micro view. The larger picture is that the entire car industry is a convoluted stagnant mess and they simply slept when Elon Musk quietly built Tesla into a Manufacturing Juggernaut. Even today most people don't understand what is actually happening. They simply can't compete anymore and are slowly dying. This will take many forms but the real reason is that Tesla has built the machine that builds the machine. It baffles me that even today the fact that Tesla's day to day operations aren't run by Musk or any other human but by an fully Integrated Artificial Intelligence, called Tesla1 is not talked about or that it's entire company structure is radically different than that of anybody else. "It's just a car manufacturer". No, it's not.
I think this is not just a MB thing, it is a german manufacturer thing. VW also thinks that their EVs need to look they come from a 90's cyberpunk movie. People just want EVs that look and can be used like the cars they are/were using
I knew a few people down there in Untertürkheim (where they make the Mercedes decisions) and when they left the design meetings for the new EQ line their employees described their reactions as "ok this looks much better"
If you're selling "the world's most technology advanced passenger vehicle" , the S Class, why on EARTH would you think customers are interested in buying the car without the iconic name and badge? The fact it wasn't called the S-Class 550E or whatever, is mind blowing
"started at $180,000 and looked...like this" cracked me up!
It’s actually a disgrace for the price 😂
If this isn't Mercedes but China made car, my first impression would be..... "potato"?
By just flying that Mercedes logo in front, it upgrades into ...."premium elegant.... potato"?
@@LogicallyAnswered have you checked their other vehicles? Mercedes is making a lot of butt ugly cars like that, ESPECIALLY in the premium segment. I always thought I just don't get the "rich people car aesthetics" or whatever.
@@LogicallyAnswered definitely! And a really weird for them to not know their market
I have a feeling that European cars will only become luxurious brands, in light of affordable chinese cars flooding the world market. Luxury brands: sell around 1000 cars per year, with 1 million dollars per car. 😅
You mentioned the cars’ look but I think you missed a point: the EQ models look actually CHEAPER than their ICE equivalent.
After so long, I do think that car designer should have learned that piano black is not a premium material: it’s only cheap, glossy plastic.
It looks like MB has been pinching pennies to recover some of the higher costs of the electric drivetrain.
Hmm 🤔
This. They should have taken a hint from Tesla and just gone with a steel nose instead of a fake plastic grill
As a German performance ICE fan, I love watching the EV market fall on its face. Mercedes also announced the dropping of the 4 cylinder hybrid engine in many AMG models in favor of bringing back the 4.0L turbo V-8 due to abysmal sales. Oh happy days!
@@993mike
Amen.
As a GL550 owner, no Mercedes (outside of diesels) should have a displacement below 4.5L…and Im being generous.
My personal favorite engines are the M156 (AMGs first in-house engine) and the M120, so size-wise, you KNOW where my head is at!
@@993mikeWell, narrow minded fools like you won't laugh for long. There is no other way than EVs. Brands falling onto their face will just make individual mobility a lot more costly in the future. A 4.0 L Turbo V8?😂 They can't afford to keep that on the market. That's just how legislation is nowerdays. These cars will end up as overpriced unicorns.
What I wouldn't give for a Mercedes that has a long-range reliable diesel engine, simple design, and an interior with buttons, knobs, anything tactile. I want to buy a Mercedes, but unfortunately the only ones matching that description are about 3 decades out of date.
Ah, looking for a classic I see
@@LogicallyAnswered Only problem with classics is that, even "million mile" old cars need maintenance. I'd love to see them take their old designs as close to modern tech as possible without trimming them beyond recognition.
their steering gesture control is unreliable to say the least
I have a 1993 W124 300D Turbo (OM603 Turbo). It is perfection. Or, at least it would be if it was brand new. What I wouldn't give for a brand new W124...
Currently looking into getting the cleanest 400E that I can find. I'm also considering swapping my OM603 Turbo to a less used OM606 Turbo and tuning it to 400-500HP...
If you're looking for old school features in a "modern", then the classic ones aren't "out of date" 😂😂
when Mercedes discontinued the CLS and S-Class Coupe, I knew that the era of beautiful iconic Mercedes modes had ended, and so too my interest in this brand.
Ditto, as the owner of a bought new E350 Coupe
I'm a lot older than you so my interest ended years ago. Around 2005 or so. And that was only with some few models that were still decent.
@@petercollingwood522last Mercedes I had was a 2001 S500 tuned by Lorinser imported from Germany. The car was absolutely sick... but one morning I woke up and the car was completely on the ground... the air suspension had 100% failed. The cost of that repair put me off Mercedes forever.
Now I buy Audis... and am much happier
Mercedes doesn’t want you as a customer. They want younger people now
If you want to sell EVs don’t make them look like EVs!
Said no Mustang MachE owner ever.
I would have to disagree. Yes a classic look of a gas car looks great (except the newer bmws). But when it comes to electric they have less milage than gas so reducing aero is important. Also loon at hyundai. They used electric cars to redefine themselves pretty well. Also their cars look sick.
Ford tried that already, and failed hard, no ones buying their EV trucks
@@GoldenDoom Did you even watch the video? We tried it your way. It doesn't work if nobody will buy them.
@@joez.2794 the existance of tesla proves my point.
$50K for an EQS sounds kinda nice tbh
Only if you have another $50k to repair the Benz junk in the years or better say months to come 😂
The battery costs more to replace than the car itself.
Some Dealers wanted $50,000 over MSRP when the EQS first came out! They are getting back what they sowed!
Except I'd never waste 50K on a Mercedes.
@@michaelnash2972 EV batteries are warranted for 100,000 miles or 8 years, and obviously most won't fall apart the day the warranty runs out.
I still like physical buttons. I don''t particularly care to be searching for the function I want on an iPad while driving.
I agree, aircon can just have a button, so can cruise control, and many other things, who over complicate things? Also what worries me is that when I look at faults in cars it is very often electrics that fail. I simply think people have overreacted with EVs, slow and steady would be better, but I can understand manufacturers being afraid of being left behind I suppose.
Or just tell your car what you want, and it will happen... unless you don't have a Tesla. (To be fair, it doesn't always get it right... yet) 🖖
The important thing with buttons and why i honestly wish screens as used today weren't legal is you can manipulate buttons without looking at them. The current trend of pretending drivers don't need to look at the road but contrary needs to stop, we aren't anywhere near that yet.
@@Ottobon I agree, thats why they made buttons of different sizes and shapes; you can identify them by feel. its a huge safety advantage. Also, if the screen breaks you can adjust nothing at all, a total loss of all functionality, I just can't see the sense in that at all.
You are not alone
I personally don't like the new EQ interior - there's way too many screens, lost it's luxurious features
At least there should be a fine luxury conventional dashboard as option as Jaguar had in former times. A wood leather analog clock version with high quality massive aluminum . Not this chinese chrome
I don’t mind the egg shape, but the 2003 Windows Media Player UI design is a crime.
Ford Taurus was an egg and a best seller. So was Windows 8. But Harry is right, people who buy a new car every other year are into status and not thinking of the "common good" like saving the planet. Give them what they want.
MBUX looks great. What do you mean?
It's miles better than current soulless boring UI designs.
Given how lucid pulled off the egg shape design it s not excuse why Benz couldn’t do the same
It’s so tacky and childish
I will never buy a car with massive iPad screen
I agree
I will never buy a car which is not European (or Japanese)
Fun fact, my neighbor bought an EQS. She came back to the car a month later with a bunch of electrical problems due to the wires being wrapped in a factory soy-based material that was chewed on by mice any chance they got, inside, outside, everywhere. In fact the EQS even attracted mice to the garage for that reason. Now the car needs a whole new wiring harness and she is lemon law ing the car as result.
Merc has been doing very DUMB things with their wiring, did they forget the bio degradable harnesses a few decades ago?
Soy based insulation on electric wires? REALLY???
Fucking hell merc 😂😂😂
Well, it is an environmentally friendly material, too friendly in fact, mother 🌎 sends some of her best soldiers 🐁 to do the direct cleanup 😅
Mercedes are tasty 🐀
If this is true, that’s sad oversight in procurement
Squeak, sweak, sweak, sweak, translation "do you smell smoke?"
Someone has yet to explain to me why, in the UK at least, I would get 6 penalty points and a hefty fine if I was caught operating the touchscreen on my phone whilst driving but it is perfectly acceptable to operate a stupidly complicated built in touchscreen whilst driving. There are some of these which literally require you to navigate three or four menu levels to move the air vents for God's sake.
Toyota nailed being patient
As long as they are preparing themselves. I bought an early electric car (I sold that piece of cr@p Nissan Leaf, 3 months later before the battery died on me). If I had an actual electric car with a good battery I would be happy. My solar panels are overpowered for this reason. I’m ready. Guess I’ll have to get a Tesla or a Chinese car.
@@andyandreou You should check out rivians R2 (suv) and R3/R3X (crossover/hatch)
Toyota's EV's did even worse than Mercedes
@andyandreou the prius prime, while a plug in hybrid, is equivalent to an ev most of the time. It has around a 40 mile ev range just on battery. Unless you do lots of round trips greater than that, it's functionally an ev
Mercedes EV sales increased by 61% in 2023. This guy is just misleading. Not doing bad after all…
On the point of change of CEO, I used to work at Mercedes during that period, and Ola brought in a LOT of changes which were purely on operational efficiency. His tenure brought an engineering driven company to sales driven company as it was his background. There were a LOT of structural changes, like major ones like splitting of Daimler into 3 subsidiaries for cars and vans, trucks and finance. In management side lot of departments we split and reformed. It was a chaotic time and Tesla was a boogieman throughout the quarterly meetings and decision making.
Well Mercedes has been in shambles ever since he took the helm!
same happened with Boeing, it went from being an engineering company to a sales driven company and result is in front of everyone
Merc is largely owned by the Chinese.
Paranois runs deep...into your heart it will creep.
The split off into 3 subsidiaries I never quite understood. I did not like Ola whatsoever and still don't. Right now Mercedes carline up is a hot freaken mess.
The other thing I did not like with Ola is that he sold off and closed all Mercedes owned dealerships. THAT IMO was a major mistake.
The music in the last chapter was very loud. Couldn't barely hear you.
i just wanted to say the same thing
HE HAD TO MAKE THE POINT!!!!! (Sorry for screaming)
It's what you call bad editing
WHAT!!???
Oops, appreciate the feedback guys
Dude, at around 12:00~ ish of the video the bg music got lot more louder than your voice, atleast that's what I've noticed.
If you're buying a luxury vehicle, efficiency is the LAST thing on your list. Luxury in itself is the opposite of practicality and efficiency.
Its not about efficiency. Its about virtue-signaling. This was aimed at those for whom a Tesla was far too pedestrian.
@@obsidianjane4413 yep and those butthurt about Elon. The Teslas are the only financially viable products.
you want a car that last......
Go Diesel!
Most luxury starts to get problems at 100,000km.
Diesel trucks just getting warmed up!!
It's not about efficiency, it's about range. People who buy luxury, see range as a luxury aspect because few EVs can afford to offer good range and still be competitive, so it's usually reserved for the premium brand that have price tags and status to support it.
However, the issue isn't the efficiency, it's just that the look they went for is trying to blobify a dated Mercedes idea of what their DNA is. It's a fallacy of many current automakers, where they correlate "family feeling" and "brand DNA" with very specific graphic looks and details. How does the grill look, what's the shape of the headlights, do we do cuts and angles, or sloping surfaces -etc. And that's the real issue. The companies have forgotten that the lines they design aren't their DNA. The REASON behind the lines, that is their true DNA.
Mercedes presenting their star logo proud and prominently in the center of the grille and on the hood, the DNA isn't the placement or the shape of the grille. The DNA is the fact that they're proud of the symbol their heritage carries. But modern design departments and execs are too focused on the style of graphic design without considering the reason behind it.
They could easily have made a vehicle that would rival Lucid in efficiency, while carrying the air and presence that the Mercedes heritage deserves. yet they didn't. They simply lost touch with what the Mercedes brand means, and now they're suffering from it -as are many other companies like BMW and Alfa Romeo etc.
@@Real_MisterSir AMG shill bot lol.
Well, efficiency in EVs and ICEs are completely different. Charging a battery is not as fast as filling the tank. So I’d argue it is an important factor in very expensive cars.
True!
I thought this. It is actually a big deal
Yes, once car buyers understand miles of range gained per minute of charging, they will care _more_ about efficiency. Even saying "The all-new Allanté charges from 10-80% in only 25 minutes!" misses the point; it's how many miles of range you gain in those 25 minutes.
It's usually very close, you guys should just get over it. Most of the people do fast charging once per month of usage. Otherwise, it's just charged at the driveway. Instead of that, support 22kW charging with AC, it'll do a better job in countries with better electricity infrastructure.
You would need a C or C1 license to drive the Hummer EV in the Netherlands, but not like you mention because he is so wide.. But because it weights more then 3500kg.
Ja,en ?!
I don't think they even considered The Netherlands as a point of sale for their product. The Dutch is not wealthy anymore, it's a city sized country with communal economy.
@@imBugra I think the #1 reason for not seeing any hummers here, is because they are too big for our cities to even find a parking spot another reason the high fuel prices here..
Actually I prefer the exterior and hate the interior, because that interior is the exact opposite of focused, driver-centric cockpit.
Exactly. I just saw one in black, and I have to say it looked pretty classy. But the interior, the dashboard, is horrible. It's like a toy.
Music is way too loud on this
I thought Americans did not understand sarcasm
I bought an EQS 580 with rear wheel steering as a replacement to a Lucid GT. The Lucid was loaded with bugs and grossly over priced at $155K so told them to take it back. Already owning a Tesla model S, there were no other luxury EVs to consider than EQS and we had a long history with MB. I don’t mind the egg shape because range is paramount, not economy. I get about 380 mi range on average and sometimes over 400.
A big chrome, fake front grill is a turn-off. Give us a light bar and star on the hood. Their rear wheel steering is fabulous and will look for it in our next EV. No more gas cars. Hyper screen is great because spouse can make adjustments more easily. Mercedes standard autopilot on highway is better than Tesla because it does smooth lane changes.
I hate the stop/start button and want walk-away locking like Tesla.
The soundtrack at the end was too loud.
Oops
Wheni first saw the eqs, it looked exactly like my 2012 honda civic. I was utterly shocker. It was destined to fail
That SUV looks like a 15 year old Chrysler mini van lol
True that! Given that Mercedes / Daimler once owned Chrysler...
how many of those did they actually sell? hilarious.
I thought it looked like the Toyota Previa from 1990. And that van was always embarrassing.
@@SamuelLanghorn I live in berlin where there is a huge amounts of mercs and ive never seen one.
Just gonna reply to myself - I finally saw one yesterday. It was hideous.
I’ve seen an all black EQS on the road and thought it looked stylish and fresh. That’s coming from a BMW person. Complimenting a rival?
It turns out even the iconic 3 pointed star can't sell Ugly Expensive stuff!
They can. It's called a G wagon 😂😂
@@Jlw79 I would hardly call that car a success. It sold, yes. Successfully so? No. There's a reason it didn't last as a staple vehicle in their lineup.
electric cars are useless in major cities where nearly NO ONE lives in a home. you cannot charge a car out of your apartment!
BMW do though
"Current customers don't buy cars with spare tires"
-an industry that doesn't sell cars with spare tires
Average people don’t need anything other than a Corolla/civic on the road. They don’t even know what tires they have, which is almost the most important part of a vehicle. I often laugh when I hear someone tells me their cars have 400 500 600 700hp or more. 90%+ people can’t even handle a 300hp car on track.
as someone who tracks their car on the weekly, you are 100% right. I have a 455hp tuned gs300, that is more than hard to control. ive seen people with cars making under 250hp be absolutely overwhelmed
Most people can’t handle a 90 hp car on the street.
Average people can't even afford a 500 bhp car
Personally, I think 300 - 350 HP is the sweet spot. Fast enough to be fun but not fast enough to scare yourself half to death.
@@tshegofatsokgoroba6753 Agreed for daily driver/grocery getter if you are an enthusiast unless it's really light. You can still have fun without endangering people. I used to daily modified, 9s superbikes. You are looking at jail every day you play around on them.
Older Mercs were stately and handsome-looking because they were distinctively 3-volume-esque. You had engine bay, you had driver/passenger bay, you had trunk bay. Today everything is so 1-volume that I struggle to define which body type the car is: sedan or coupe? Liftback or hatchback? WTF? Give us back streamlined 3-volume designs and make sure the car doesn't look overly aggressive or as featurless as EQS was.
they took a very steep gamble and lost it, just like VW with the ID lineup.. at least, by doing a whole different linup for the electric cars, it's easier to just cut the ties and pretend they never existed and it was a collective hallucination 😆
luckely for vw, they have the etron gt, wich i find to be the most beautifull car driving around currently.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Well they do own Audi. Also Taycan looks fine as well. No idea what Mercedes and VW were thinking? Total mystery
@@Zoltan1251 it's part of the German culture. They think they need to save the planet (see lowest possible drag coefficient). They do not comprehend that the EV (especially Tesla) is a new status symbol.
Spending $billions on EVs is a gamble car companies have to take. Tesla took 1.8 million car sales away from combustion engines; Hyundai/Kia EV sales are going great; Chinese cars are making excellent EVs at all price levels. And transportation is one of the easiest economic sectors in which to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, so governments will correctly continue to push electrification of cars. And despite all the fossil-fuel-funded misinformation people spew in UA-cam comments, every car owner who cares about the environment and can afford one will buy an EV.
The luxury sector or wealthy people are not really ready for EV. That group of consumer do not really care about fuel efficiency nor fuel Tax. They probably needn't focus more on a more efficient hybirds
Youre wrong, f150 lightning didnt sold in the us very well.....
I think owners of the F150 lighting consider it no more than an expensive accessory. It's basically useless as a truck for truck work.
@@bondgabebond4907 2 to 9 kW of onboard power supply for work sites is very useful. Many contractors don't drive long distances or tow much in the Lightning is fine for them.
That’s the one truck that should’ve sold well. But, it’s too expensive.
Who wants any Mercedes from the last 20 years anyway? 😣
I think the issue wasn't styling its price. The EQS featured the same tech found in the C class. Then BMW and Tesla did really well on their cars, offering more range, more tech, more performance, for less money. Mercedes just didn't read the market correctly. I would've bought a EQS if it was E class priced, not at 100k though.
An EQE 350 EV parked bursted into a fireball in an underground parking lot in South Korea.
I roll my eyes at calling it ugly
I think people problem it looks exactly like value cars about $35k
That seemed the main problem to me priced way too high
thought the same thing, was expecting something like the homer mobile the way they were describing. when it just looks fine.
imo Most modern cars look like self replicating blobs in colors of grey black and possibly beige. I can tell you how many times I mistaked a honda civic with a hyandai forte.
"It's very gorgeous to me!!!!!🤓☝️"
@@gigachama ""It's not one of the best looking cars to me!!!!""🤓☝️
Well look what Mercedes did to AMG. Nobody wants to buy a C63 with a 4 cylinder engine and 2.2 tonnes of weight💀
They need to put the 4.0L V8 back in their AMG C63/ E63.
I think they are. They sold next to zero 4 cylinder AMG's so the idea is going back to a V8. I read this about a week ago.
Emission standards be like: force everyone to downsize engines while everyone chasing bottom dollar and offloading manufacturing to Asian countries and mining lithium for batteries increasing emissions in process.
@@thecompanioncube4211 I know, right? I mean, why not use gas and diesel that basically grows in green fields while the petrolflowers also feed the bees or something, I don't know. Point is: Petrol good, Lithium bad, no need for numbers or anything.
@@thecompanioncube4211 you are utterly lacking in common sense if you think the emissions from making a 1/2-ton recyclable battery pack are remotely equivalent to the emissions from mining, refining, shipping, spilling, then BURNING the 5+ tons of fossil fuel that it saves over 100,000 miles. Every recent analysis agrees an EV is better for the environment than a comparable gasser; the only debate is whether it pulls ahead after 30,000, 15,000, or only 10,000 miles of driving
Keep believing untruths if it makes you feel better.
EV’s are vastly worse for the environment.
What I don't understand is how a brand like Daimler-Benz has gone so far with all the gaudy, gimmicky features, like the showy exterior lighting, illuminated badges and grilles. the multi-coloured interior lights, showers of the three pointed stars (e.g. in grilles and lights and wheels) etc. It all seems so frivolous, infantile even. It should be about the engineering and that WAS the brand!
Time to buy an EQS on the cheap 😝
Not even if they'd paid me 😂😂
Imagine spending money on it 😂😂
You’d be paying out the ass for maintenance. Not worth the cost. 2016 c class out of warranty. AC repair 3000. Had enough.
The maintenance and repairs will not be cheap 🤭
Did you forget the hopeless unreliability part??
rent it for a week lol
The thing not really addressed in this video is that MB really half-a**ed all of them when it comes to the EV parts. On launch there were THE WORST performing EVs on the market while being also the most expensive. Low range, low power, small batteries, not particularly practical and costing 10-20% more than the comparable e-trons or teslas. Anyone cross-shopping them would rightly put them at the bottom of their shopping list. Nickel and dimming customers for extra range or power for a monthly sum also didn't help. The 100% touch interiors are now after a few years making automakers realize people still want buttons. They learned the hard way that just because it says MB on the front it doesn't mean it's an instant buy for wealthy customers.
Background music was WAY too loud!
Yeah please repost video with less music
Agree
Oops, my bad
@@LogicallyAnswered Yep, not here for "hype" videos. Keep it serious and technical without distractions.
I'm still totally in love with my 2007 CL500. It brings me joy every time I drive it.
just to inform you, the title is a bit clickbaity. MB cancelled their MB.EA Large EV platform which is suppose to launch in 2028. The MB.EA Med is still there. the MB.EA Large is for the S-class, GLS, E class and GLE. if you wanted a C-class, CLC or the EQB that is in the MB.EA MED. They are still going forward with their current EV platform EVA2. which the current EQE and EQS are using. a simple websearch could have brought up the articles that would bring up the relevant information. if you want to say "MB's EV platform demise" make sure its all their EV platforms, not basing it in SEO headlines.
Volkswagen has an extremely prominent "V" that you absolutely DO pronounce!
If you gave a damn about the environment you wouldn't be buying a 100k luxury sedan. Get a bus pass.
If you give a damn about the environment you would keep your car and instead invest 50 of your 100k in renewables and with the rest help the poor and sick.
I don't give a damn about the environment and I drive an old toyota :D
Sure, we can all make better choices to reduce environmental harm. But someone who "has to" drive a lot and buys a 95 MPG equivalent Mercedes-Benz EQS will cause substantially less environmental harm over the life of the car than if they bought a 24 MPG S500 gasser.
The new designed s, e and c classes are so ugly when compared to the previous models. They went from being the best looking of the luxury German lineup to the least attractive
Ford understands its core demographics? Lmao 🤣
Their core demographic is trucks and judging by the F-Series sales it is hard to argue they don't understand them.
@@NONO-hz4vo there are still hundreds if not thousands of brand new ICE 2022 F-series trucks still on dealer lots and they’ve halted construction on new EVs.. I wouldn’t exactly say sales are booming by any means. If it wasn’t for fleet sales ford would be completely SOL
@jordanschellhase2952 They still sell more than anyone else and fleet sales are next to zero profit. You can't argue They are at least doing something right to be selling as many as they are.
@@NONO-hz4vo They are mainly selling ICE vehicles while losing quite some money per EV sale, wouldn't say that's exactly a win for the EV department.
@jagersama9792 that is true. Almost no one is doing well with the EVs. Probably need a few more battery refinements before the capacity and charge rate is good enough to sway people.
I want physical knobs for volume and climate control in a car that doesn’t look like a jellybean.
Great content. I am wondering where these depreciation numbers are coming from. If I go on to Autotrader, the asking price for a used EQS is nowhere near 40% lower than new. How did you get these numbers, and where can I buy such a depreciated car (in reasonable condition from a reliable shop that support my purchase if I need service, etc)? I understand the trade-in value may be terrible, but that isn't where I can purchase a used car with such great depreciation. Pls help me find these discounts :)
i actually find EQ series looks great. youtube creators can say anything...
Trust me, this isn't as bad as the EV versions of Dodge Charger/Challenger will be.
Well, the EQ Sedans are called „bananas“ here in Germany… that says all..
The modification on the EQS front is nice, but too late and it’s still a banana..
And the new S Class? Unfassbar not a Design masterpiece, too 🤔✨
Think you gotta dial down the music volume like 20% while you are talking.
Dial it to zero on channels meant to be serious technical analysis. It undermines it with subliminal stimulation to create "hype".
@@jeffmcdonald101 I agree ZERO is the absolute sweetspot
we think HE would know how youtube works by now... this is not a music video. let's hear the guy talk instead of some random bs music used to fill bg noise...give me a break. this is why smart people are really stup id in real life.
They look like Hondas. I said it a year ago and I repeat it now. Why would I spend that amount of money on a car that looks like that?
At least they understood their mistake and are now actively trying to fix it. That's something!
They are trying to fix it by Axeing it 🪓🪓🪓 .. You have child like comprehension
I own an S Class. When the new EQS was introduced, my dealer had an invite only event with an EQS under a car cover. I had nothing to do that night, so I went. When they lifted that cover off, there were audible gasps from the audience. I laughed my way out of the showroom. What a hideous thing. The dealer won't even take any unless it's a sold order.
@0:45 That shape immediately killed the 1996 Ford Taurus, just like it killed this Mercedes-Benz. People won't drive an egg.
True I suppose; we eat eggs, not drive them.
The EQS reminded me of “The Homer”.
“180000 dollars!? This monstrosity cost 180000 dollars!? I’m ruined!!”
Have you checked how the F150 lightning sales are doing? Yes, I wouldn't use that as an example of success of Ford understanding their customers.
Mercedes and other car companies were invited to a government meeting hosted by Jim Jones, they served big glasses of grape Kool aid.
"Electric koolaid"
In my opinion they are sabotaging their amg division too. Not only do they started releasing formerly v8 models with 4 cylinders that sounds less appealing, but they also weigh significantly more due to forcing hybrid systems and awd (mainly to push straightline numbers like 0-60 and quarter mile), which is is generally undesireable on sportscars. Although other german brands might have been doing the same, I believe that the biggest weight gains goes to amg's recent car models. Fine-sounding v8s are basically the identity of higher end amgs, and they're currently slowly getting rid of it. Hope they eventually figured that out too when the sales plummets.
Hey bro just a little rec from me, please refrain from making the background music so loud that you are bearly understandable (e.g. minute 12). Other than that great video as always, you are easily one of my favorite UA-camr creators right now 💪
Oops, my bad man
Missed opportunity to talk about their hybrid devision especially with the failure of the C43 and C63
i wonder if this ceo is the reason we ended up with a 4 cylinder c63, as far as ive heard that decision has gone poorly with customers as the car isnt selling well. plus the chinese (everyone else too) are confused by them selling cars with the 53 badge that have a 6 cylinder then the 63 badge which is a 4 cylinder.
The jdm will give the feedback-
The Japanese love their motors
Germany lived off the momentum created by the marshall plan post ww2.
It lasted for a long time but it is just running out.
i don't like egg design
Who does? Hahaha
The interior of a car cannot be ‘insane’.
These EV disaster news gives me hope to be able buy my dream car with a V engine one day. The tech and thinking about environment is ok but there is a word called 'feeling' which is missing in these cars. I hope in the future somebody fix the issue by giving both and hopefully brings back physical buttons and knobs like Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolls Royce.
even if EV become mainstream ICE vehicles will still be able to be bought.
The thing is everyone with eco cars and cars just for transport need a EV or public transport. Everyone who like cars and driving will either get fast EVs or used/niche new ICE cars.
I love the feeling of the 20k rpm of the Plaid baby! ⚡️🇺🇲
It’s not a disaster. This guy is bending the story to fit his narrative. Mercedes EV sales increased by 61% in 2023.
Maybe we just need to grow up. I also like everything about older cars, design, buttons, engine sound, apparent simplicity, metal on metal, but with a bit of emotional intelligence you can quickly realize that it's mostly nostalgia and the ideas and "feelings" that YOU have assigned and attached to them.
If you don't mind the jellybean look for three years, the leases on the EQ stuff are outrageous. They lease for an amount equal to gas cars costing half as much.
The look has nothing to do with sales. Tesla's cyber truck is an example. It looks like garbage, and yet still people buy it. They're hipsters. Meanwhile, people aren't buying that many Mercedes EVs, because Mercedes customers aren't fans of EVs.
No bro, it was the looks. It doesn’t have that Mercedes presence on the outside and look like a stretched out bean!
@@Aggie4life77 And it's EV. Garbage. Audi, Mercedes & BMW customers, are not EV fans. Meanwhile, hipsters are Tesla fans, and they will buy the most ugly car ever, but it's tEsLa. If they wanted quality, and they don't care about look, they would buy that ugly Mercedes car, not ugly tesla car. But it's not about "look".
@@jdalbion Dude, EV’s are the future plan and simple. I don’t know why you dumb but is sitting over there thinking it’s some type of fad. You know what, think what you want, I will like to see you go buy a brand new ICE vehicle after 2035! You’re talking about hipsters. It’s f’ing government regulations!
The Cybertruck isn't purely ugly though. Its also striking.
The Mercedes is just ugly.
Some people like the look of the Cybertruck. Nobody likes the Mercedes.
They've sold like 4k CyberTruck's judging by the number of recalled cars
Egg shit, and giant screens are the two main reason why I will never buy a modern car.
Why get a EV when you could get a V8 or a V12?
Because with my EV I’ve spent roughly $700-$1000 a year on total registration, maintenance, and charging costs. My Pontiac Grand Prix with a V6 cost me at least $120+ a month in fuel costs before anything else.
The biggest reason though, is that I’m a tech guy and not a car guy. EV’s fit much more with what I am personally into. My stepdad is a total car guy and has done mechanic work as a hobby his whole life, so of course he should get an ICE, it’s what he’s into.
i'm young and fairly new to cars and have rarely driven an ice car in my life and i don't get it when people say they want these buttons and knobs and car's machine noise and vibrations
my cost for driving an ev is really very low, maintenance is low as well,driving and maintaining an ice is way more expensive
EVs acceleration at any given price point is way more than an equivalent priced ice car,and i really love fast acceleration
@@divitkarekar5803 Wait until it's time for a battery replacement. EVs hit you hard with that cost instead of requiring small continuous investments. Also, EVs feel dead. That is no fun to car people (which, to be clear, I am not).
Ev batteries last longer than ice engines.. so take your pick, a bad battery or bad engine
@@nihilriv3ryou forgot insurance
Mercedes are offering 0% finance and MASSIVE discounts on EV’s and they still can’t get rid of them.
One of our neighbors works for Mercedes here in my hometown (in Germany) and of course he drives a current EV. Always when he enters our Cul-de-sac and I'm on our driveway close to my VW Passat with an age of 10 years, I think "damn, the Passat is such a nice looking car". Don't know what they thought, the strict and clear design line is gone and the look is anywhere cloned from organic looking asian cars together with some parts from "the future". Strange, very strange.
These are bland times. Back in the day, I can remember when a Mercedes looked like a Mercedes, a Jaguar looked like a Jaguar etc. Bland times indeed.
Remember when car designs were sexy? We need that again.
I prefer the eq design by a lot over others like BMWs cars or porches
Can you do a video about the sales of the new C63s?
The sad part is this is nothing new. Mercedes has been churning out ugly cars since the 90’s. Boring and homogenized.
Yep. Nowhere near as good looking as pre-1990s Benzes. Just more jellybeans.
Americans should know all about what an ugly car looks like with their vast experience.
The eqs is a pos… most uncomfortable interior ever
Here is the deal: Germany isn't a free market capitalist country anymore. It doesn't matter what customers want. Germany is outright socialist.
Let me explain why: the government quota is around 70%. So 70% of the economy isn't decided by people, but by government spending decisions. And the other 30% are highly regulated anyways. I'm sorry, but that isn't capitalism anymore. That's worse than east germany, the GDR, was under "Communism". That's 5 year plan bad. In 1870 the highly militaristic emperor had less than 10%. EVs are a fad, a super bad idea that some bureaucrat made when he had no clue, but did it anyways. It's not what customers or free manufacturers want. It's a Trabi.
It’s incredible how much bad press Tesla gets yet most Automakers are doing far worse and get little to no press.
What are you talking about? Mercedes selled 2023 60% more ev than 2022. They also sold more Premium Cars than 2022 and more Cars in total.
You can’t charge $100k for a vehicle that is outcompeted by many other vehicles in the same class. They should have subsidized it and sold them at a huge discount to get a foothold in the market.
I own an AMG a real one with a V8... all other AMG's are fake...
The interior quality and level of detail was about a galaxy away from how an S-Class should be, and the price was ridiculous. Very happy that they didn't sell many of them. People are luckily not completely dumb yet (but we're getting there)
Trying to beat Tesla? Jesus, talk about aiming low.
Model S remains an excellent premium sedan for the money, Model Y is the best selling car in the world, and Model 3 is an excellent midsize sedan for the money. It's trendy to dump on Tesla for many reasons, but 1.8 million car buyers bought one last year instead of a gasser. Car companies were right to panic over the threat from Tesla, and now even more so the threat from Chinese EV manufacturers.
I actually like the EQS look. It looks so different. Time will make this car a legend
Why are all you people concerned by depreciation ??!!? Do you all keep cars for 2-3 years only ?
For me. If I care so much about depreciation, I would instead buy used cars
There are so many issues that it's difficult to find a starting place.
The smooth front is not an issue. The issue is the gloss-black plastic with silver lines trying to pretend its a grill. If it had been body color, maybe with a design, I would despise it less.
Big screens in cars are not an issue. TOUCH screens in cars are a major issue. I refuse to choose my driving mode, AC, or radio by touch screen. Why? Because I can't do it by touch. I have to look. They should be called Look Screens whenever they are installed in a car. Every car I've driven, I could adjust those things while keeping my eyes on the road. That's impossible in these death-traps.
One more thing, EVs frequently add complexity for complexity's sake. Stop it.
The interior of that thing looks like trash, like a child's play toy, there is nothing luxury about that interior lmao
If you want to sell EV's, don't make them look like ICE cars.
EQSh%t happened seriously the suv looks like crappy version of Caravan 😂
Ola kallenius will be the death of Mercedes, they've made so many questionable decisions in motorsports, amg division, design, engine selection etc. since zetsche left, i don't even recognize the current Mercedes.
informed customers are not adopting evs!
People duped by fossil fuel misinformation won't acknowledge how terrible burning tons of gasoline in a combustion engine is for the environment. If you drive more than ~4,000 miles a year, buy an EV!
@@skierpage even if all pertroleum cars and vehicles were switched to electric tommorow, it would only result in a 29% reduction in emmisions, what's your point?
Look it up, EVs are a chemical disaster!
@@cosmicblox934 and 29% would be huge! We need to rapidly reduce emissions from all sectors of the economy to reduce the multiple worsening harms from global warming. Cars and the rest of land transportation are relatively easy; agriculture, air travel, construction, shipping, and many industrial processes don't have low-carbon alternatives that are close to the same cost as emissions-heavy business as usual.
early gang.
Thanks for being early man!
A little less early gang.
This is the micro view. The larger picture is that the entire car industry is a convoluted stagnant mess and they simply slept when Elon Musk quietly built Tesla into a Manufacturing Juggernaut. Even today most people don't understand what is actually happening. They simply can't compete anymore and are slowly dying. This will take many forms but the real reason is that Tesla has built the machine that builds the machine. It baffles me that even today the fact that Tesla's day to day operations aren't run by Musk or any other human but by an fully Integrated Artificial Intelligence, called Tesla1 is not talked about or that it's entire company structure is radically different than that of anybody else. "It's just a car manufacturer". No, it's not.
I think this is not just a MB thing, it is a german manufacturer thing. VW also thinks that their EVs need to look they come from a 90's cyberpunk movie. People just want EVs that look and can be used like the cars they are/were using
I knew a few people down there in Untertürkheim (where they make the Mercedes decisions) and when they left the design meetings for the new EQ line their employees described their reactions as "ok this looks much better"
If you're selling "the world's most technology advanced passenger vehicle" , the S Class, why on EARTH would you think customers are interested in buying the car without the iconic name and badge? The fact it wasn't called the S-Class 550E or whatever, is mind blowing