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Even Anakin who has the highest M count ever, still couldn’t use the force at will. He had to be trained. The way I always saw it, the higher number, the more likely it is to be able to use the force.
I still prefer the minimalism and concepts of McQuarrie in Rebels; however you are correct, we are seeing improvements on this type of animation, every series. This looks miles better than what TCW season 7 did, and even improved over season 1 of the show. Its pretty spectacular now.
Yep, they're really taking the "Every shot a painting" idea seriously. Feels like a pretty linear progression to me though - Clone Wars S1-6 < Clone Wars S7 < 'Tales...' < Bad Batch S3 - so long as we leave 'Visions' aside and of course 'Rebels' which was trying something different (and for me inferior but mileage varies of course).
It actually reminded me of Jedi Outcast. The mission where you fight Tavion; when you're in the room to unlock the dock doors, you can look down out the windows and see Tavion command stormtroopers into the building and if you look at her through the binoculars, she will turn around and stare directly at you.
@@thecams3858 I was really proud of crosshair for how he fought considering all he's been through i thought she would of easily folded him like a lawn chair
@@iluvyummywaffles yeah tell me about it I'm conflicted whether to unsubscribe and block them cause every week I'm spoiled before I can even watch the show.
I'm surprised to see him, in the end discussion, be so impacted and concerned as to how it affects the canon. Isn't he the one that always rips on fans/commenters who criticize or worry about canon not being followed? He always seems to poo-poo that, saying "come on guys! It's all made up! If I enjoy it then I enjoy it, I don't get all worked up about canon". But he got pretty worked up about this story and it potentially breaking canon. That, or it even not explaining her resurrection in such a way that he's satisfied and feels like a story (in DD) he really likes isn't negatively affected by the new development.
@@nathanp2007 Yeah I was a bit surprised by this too. I expected a bigger deep dive and theorizing surrounding her character and how she was interacting with Omega, as well as how they could go further with Omega's M-Count potential. But much of the discussion was really pulled and deterred with the underlying "issue" of this potentially breaking canon. But I'm not all committed on the huge Star Wars Lore and Canon anyways.
@@awesomeausman0422 Idk about that one, Ashoka is in the New Republic Era. Even if Asaji shows up, they won't take the time to explain her backstory for that show.
It makes some sense that Ventress would know some Jedi skills like communing with nature since she was initially trained as a Jedi before her master was killed and she turned to the Dark Side. Also for the yellow crystal, during Dark Disciple she was given a yellow saber so she might've just taken the crystal and either found one of her old sabers and replaced the crystal or built a copy of her old sabers and used the yellow crystal.
Yep. The people behind the Bad Batch said her survival will be explored in future content. So it will be either in this show or Im thinking Tales of the Jedi season 2.
@@joethahobo I don't think she survived, I think she died and was straight up resurrected. Quinlan laid her to rest in the pools of Dathomir where she was embraced by Magick. Nightsister Spirits resurecting a power champion laid in the ichor 100% fits with canon.
@@jiffypoo5029my theory: when Nightsisters are nearly killed they enter a dormant state of regeneration. When put into the waters of Dathomir, the process is complete and the Nightsister awakes. That’s what Thrawn and The Great Mothers are going to do with all those dormant Nightsister crates they’re talking to Dathomir.
@@jiffypoo5029no one’s ever really gone” 🤓. This universe has no stakes. Why even bother. I guess Tech’s alive too, and Anakin after ROTJ, and why not Ki Adi Mundi while we’re here?
The pool Quinlan laid her to rest in was the same pool that was home of the creature Quinlan killed which generated the green glowing water which is used for magiks including transforming Savage, so until we get a more full explanation I will assume the waters brought her back. Bathing/baptism and rebirth is such a common trope it seems the most likely explanation
Can I just say, there was something so soothing about this episode exploring some underwater fighting even if for a short time. The one area of Star Wars that in my opinion is the least explored of all kinds of worlds that Star Wars has is snow worlds and then ocean worlds at number one. We got it once with the Gungans in Phantom Menace, the battle with Kit Fisto in Tartakovsky's 2D clone wars and then in the actual mainline Clone Wars show with the The Battle of Mon Cala arc in Season 4. Give me more of that please!
Regardless of the question if Omega has a relatively highish M-count, Ventriss' point that Omega's going to have to go on her own eventually still stands. Certainly staying on Pabu would be ill-advised.
@@rockerojerez349 well shes not a jedi, but possibly sensitive, still dont rlly know. I mean it somewhat makes sense, the Kaminoans had a ton of experiments going on and Palpatine has been trying to clone himself for a mintue now
THIS was the hand-to-hand combat I was hoping to see Ezra do in the Ahsoka live action when he says he didn't need his lightsaber anymore. Using the Force as an extension for a palm blast or fighting like a firebender (fast strikes, agile movement).
Every time this happens it just vindicates my "no trailers, no promos" policy. (not for something I _know_ i'm going to watch anyway - these days they only ever spoil IMO)
Everyone always gushes about how Eric is the 'Lore Master' of the crew and all. But I gotta say, Aaron's not half bad either!! He gives him a run for his money often times, ngl! ;P
Aaron’s got a ton of Old Republic info in him too. I personally love that era with the video games and comics especially, I also have some novels in that era but haven’t read them all. But in their Jedi Survivor play-through, he makes a lot of references and in their Star Wars videos he’ll drop little old republic MMO moments that surprise me sometimes
@@TheNinjaBees Was about to ask you where you heard his TOR tidbits from and then you mentioned it later on in the same comment haha! Sweet, I'll have to set aside some time to check out their full Jedi Survivor playthroughs soon! Was always meaning to, but now I have even more reason to!! And that's so awesome, man. Hell yah. For over a decade now, TOR's easily been my 2nd favorite era, just sliiiiightly underneath the PT/CW! And all those cinematics are such gems too, like holy PLAGUEIS. 😂🥵🙌🙌
I think the main idea they're going for is that clones don't have a M count at all, so Omega happens to be the first clone to have a M count, even if it's albeit very very small. Basically unless she trained hard like Sabine, she ain't using the force.
I do love her facial expressions this time around. In the book Dark Disciple, they describe her connecting to the Force differently than she ever had and a peace that comes over her expression. This episode is exactly what I imagined it to be That being said, am I the only person who thinks the fist fights looks like it's straight out of a video game? Like it's not complete yet? I was watching this and wondering "Did these poor creators get their budget cut out of nowhere" On the point of the Dark Disciple, I knew that she died in that book but hadn't read it yet, so I quickly went through the whole story to prepare for this season. Get to the end and they've returned her to the water and I said "Didn't they call that the water of life in Clone Wars?" And aren't the Nightsisters always messing with bringing the dead back to life? So I'm not thinking her surviving is all that crazy. Like Maul, it's really going to depend on what they do with her, but I already like where she's at. She's not a full good guy, but she's not a bad guy either, and like I said, the expressions on her face are a delight to watch
We will get more of how she survived, maybe from a new show or season 2 of Tales of the Jedi. She was brought back to her home world and laid to rest in some of the waters, so I imagine her return has something to do with how they put her to rest and where.
I was just scrolling, painfully, through movies not knowing what to watch, aware in the back of my mind this was dropping very soon because I just finished the ep and loved it oh man. And immediately this notification. I’ve never clicked so fast
I really loved this episode. I thought that they did a really great job in just about every aspect of this episode. There were just so many amazing, interesting and entertaining scenes and moments throughout this episode. Again, the voice acting was perfect, I feel like all the voice actors were giving an amazing performance and through their deliveries they felt like they were fully dedicate and invested to their character and their roles. I thought that the writing was really fantastic and the animation was incredible and was able to perfectly capture the tone and atmosphere of whatever it was trying to portray. And the music for this episode was really great, I’m so glad that they brought the Kiners back to do this shows score, I can’t wait to hear more of the music they have composed for this season. I loved Ventress in this episode. Not only was it amazing to get to see her on screen again for the first time in like 11 years, but I think she was utilized perfectly. I think it was really great and very interesting to get to see her at this point in her story. I thought it was really cool to see her being this neutral type figure and I really enjoyed getting to see her be more tapped into the Light Side here. I really enjoyed the interactions between Omega and Ventress, I thought they had a very interesting dynamic that reminded me a lot of Luke and Yoda from Empire Strikes Back. I also really like getting to see this more wise and calm Ventress who is more in tune with the Light Side and more capable and willing to be a teacher. Again, reminding me a lot of Yoda from Empire Strikes Back. I loved the fight scene between Ventress and the rest of the Bad Batch. I thought the choreography was really great and it was really cool to see them start out by going hand to hand against each other but but then as the fight progressed, they started to use their weapons, including Ventress pulling out her new Yellow Lightsaber. I will say, though there were certain parts during this fight where the footage looked oddly sped up, I don’t know what that was about, but other than that I still thought this fight scene was all around pretty cool. Also, this is just a small thing, but I really loved all the creature designs in this episode. I know they weren’t that important to this episodes plot, but I just really liked the look of that giant shelled, Squid creature and those glowing Stingray looking creatures. I’m still really interested in getting to see more from Omega and her M-Count. With the way Ventress was initially trying to cover it up it makes me wonder just how much of it Omega actually has. And with Ventress saying that Omega’s M-Count will make her even more of a target it makes me wonder for how much longer the Batch will be safe on Pabu before the Empire possibly shows up. It was just so awesome to get to see Ventress again in this episode, I can’t wait to see her possibly return at some point in the remainder of this show, or possibly in some upcoming show in the future, either way, I am really excited to see where her story goes from here. I can’t wait to see where the ending of this episode will lead into next week’s episode and how it will impact the future of this show and its continuing story. I am still really loving everything about this show and I can’t wait to see the rest of the season and where all the characters and this story and will go next. I absolutely cannot wait for next week’s episode, I am so excited!
There was a comic series where she was apparently killed. However, she went into a force healing trance until she could revive. Dooku's lightning could have critically wounded her where she went into a trance. Obi-Wan and Vos put her into stasis and then buried her in her home waters; which are magical and healing. So, she could have been revived WITHOUT breaking canon. Aside, it was a peaceful species of fish that Vos had to kill using the dark side.
This CANNOT be the last time we see Asajj. It’s like the Commander Cody situation, you really want me to believe they just bring these characters in for one episode with no explanation? I don’t think so but who knows ‼️
Here's a theory for you - Omega is a direct clone of Jango. Jango was either was actually descended from a Mandalorian with the Mandalorian ability to communicate with animals, which Boba also has, or wanted his kids to have that ability added. That empathy/communication ability comes from mildly increased Midiclorians.
Any unaltered clone is a direct clone of jango. boba is literally a clone of jango omega is a female version of jango on top of that jango isn’t mandalorian by blood he was a foundling so this is full of many holes
@PyroFox-ye5tm Boba can't talk to them through the force but he can train them and communicate as a trainer, just as Omega talks to Batcher but doesn't force-speak to Batcher. The Mandalorian thing with animals seems to be more than an ordinary link but not an active force user power
@PyroFox-ye5tm a Foundling yes, but of what family history? We don't know if Jango had a Mandalorian ancestor back a generation of two. All I'm saying is that it's intriguing that Boba has an empathy with animals, Omega has an empathy with animals, presumably both of them have blood that accepts outside energy, and there's a strong link to the infusion of the waters into a Mandalorian as explained in season 3 of The Mandalorian and the ability to ride Mythosaurs.
I believe she was placed in a green glowing pool on dathomir by Quinlan Vos and Obi-Wan... i'm just glad she's back and if you notice she to use the dark side by accident it's kind of a test for her to to summon that monster and tame it...
This episode and who's in it is an example of why I try to stay away from trailers. (Unfortunately made the mistake of watching this particular trailer when it came out) 💜
Ok... hear me out..... it's long, but it would work. Since this is the last season for BB and Omega is LITERALLY the key to connecting the sequels and the Filoni verse.... She will wind up going off with Asajj and the boys will sacrifice themselves for it to happen. During their time together Omega starts to develop her force abilities while every episode is the standard mix of bounty hunting while being chased by the empire. Omega's training is thoroughly punctuated with wise tales about her time with Voss to give it that moral impact...but actually serving as a way to both explain how Asajj survived and allow Lucasfilm to capitalize on the Dark Disciple storyline. Disney then milks it for as long as necessary until Filoni can use a grown up Omega in live action along with AV. Omega gets tied into Grogu for cloning Palpatine. Asajj could then tie into Thrawn's storyline with the Witches. With is going to give us an amazing scene in either an episode or maybe even the big movie where Asajj and Ahsoka team up against Thrawn and the Witches that ultimately leads to a very deep symbolic situation with Ahsoka, once light..., now paired with Asajj, once dark... Ahsoka's Yin to Asajj's Yang in a dichotomy of what is finally once and for all a true balance of the force. No Jedi, no Sith....only the Force in balance with nature...which if you look, has been Filoni's direction this entire time. .... or it could have just been a one time nostalgic cameo to make fans happy. ... just sayin.
Blixus is the big sea creatures species.. and yes, we saw it but a small version of it in the clone wars the episode with the slavers the queen gets killed, I forget the name of the episode
Yeah like you guys were saying for the most part, I think ventress told omega there's no m count just to make her feel like there's no sense in training so she can put that behind her and just continue being with her brothers, since the empire is after her anyway and clearly that's not going to change, that's the more important issue. Ventress knew that it'd be a one in a million chance that she'd even show any skill right off the bat anyway. I think she tested her out of curiosity and basically got her answer. She knows that she's sensitive enough to have communication with animals if she trained a little, and that could be helpful, but not enough sensitivity to wisk her away and make an apprentice of her. And definitely not enough to take her from her bros. So she tells her she has no m-count even though she didn't test her blood, because m-count means nothing to her. But it clearly means enough to the empire, and she's already on the run from them, so nothing is changed in that regard. ventress wasn't there to count midichlorians, she went there to welcome them to the shit show.
They said the unfinished Clone Wars episodes are treated as canon since they're all fully scripted, just not produced. Via Pablo Hidalgo during the "Untold Clone Wars Panel" video on the Star Wars UA-cam channel.
Your faces when Ventress showed up were THE BEST! On the one hand, I wish I hadn't seen the trailer, but it did have me looking forward to your reactions to it all season! I'm happy believing that being laid to rest in the glowing green magic lake on Darhomir had something to do with her return. And her newfound balance and affinity towards living beings clearly reflects Quinlan's influence on her. I agree with Aaron that her growth has been great character development. After watching the episode again, I think it sets up Ventress as a future ally for Omega, potentially if/when she loses her brothers. As always, great discussion, thanks guys!
I was just scrolling, painfully, through movies not knowing what to watch, aware in the back of my mind this was dropping very soon because I just finished the ep and loved it oh man. And immediately this notification. I’ve never clicked so fast It’s really crazy they just openly showed you know who in the trailer. And even yesterday they advertised her Been waiting for episode 8 and number 3 are the best ones. this episode had me giggling and kicking my feet looked up an interview and one of the writers says how she survived will be in future content The pool Quinlan laid her to rest in was the same pool that was home of the creature Quinlan killed which generated the the the the green glowing water which is used for Magiks including transforming Savage, so until we get a more full explanation I will assume the waters brought her back. Bathing/baptism and rebirth is such a common trope it seems the most likely explanation for Wrecker having a Zeb moment when he was looking at the creepy killer assassin. I didn't know Boris the Animal was part of the blind wave crew. momma is BACK!!!! This episode and who's in it is an example of why I try to stay away from trailers. (Unfortunately made the mistake of watching this particular trailer when it came out) There's also the potential for degrees of Force Sensitivity. Everyone in the galaxy is very slightly Force Sensitive, it's impossible to be devoid of the Force in canon- it's why George Lucus disliked the Vong, they broke the Force. And we see people on the fringe where they aren't sensitive enough to actively use the Force or become Sith / Jedi, but the Force still flows through them and they benefit from this stronger connection. Han Solo and other ace pilots are implied to be on the lower end of this 'mid-level' spectrum, and Chirrut Îmwe is on the higher end of this 'mid-level' spectrum, able to meditate for short-term precognition a few seconds into the future. So it's very possible Omega doesn't have the potential to actively use the Force, but she could be somewhere in that 'mid-level' spectrum between Han and Chirrut. Love this episode! let the Simping commence The Goth, Witch, Ex-Jedi, Ex-Sith Assassin, Ex-Bounty Hunter, Ex-Corpse! MY GIRL IS BACK! I will say, it was interesting seeing our heroes fight basically the Star Wars equivalent of a Kraken lol I have been looking forward to this God've missed her so much She can GROW hair?!?! Great reaction
I like the idea that Omega is a kind of genetic mimic, kind of like Rogue of the X-Men. She isn't inherently Force sensitive, but when around someone that is, she becomes more sensitive. When around Crosshair, she becomes more like Crosshair. When around Hunter, she is more like Hunter, etc. This makes her blood perfect for what Palpatine wants to do.
I'm a few days late, yeah, but they did say that Dark Diciple is still canon, and nothing from it has been retconed, and that more info would be given on how she's still alive in upcoming stories that they're working on.
23:58 ya know what, how did she get her original hilt back? Both her sabers were taken by Bariss Offee and then confiscated by the Jedi Order after Bariss was arrested. There may be no Jedi now but there is The Empire, and they should now have possession of her sabers. So like, did she just make herself a new saber? And if so, why make it look EXACTLY like her old ones that were gifted to her by Dooku?
The adaptability is a really interesting theory since most of Omega's talents seem to be around intuition/connection - she seems to be able to sync up with others, learn from others, but also see the best in others (and maybe even nurture it), which is a certain kind of gift. I'd really like to see what happens if Omega comes across a person who really can't be trusted - so far her intuition has mostly been right on. Plus she seems able to really bond with animals. I am not sure that she herself has a particularly high count, but maybe is more on that Chirrut level...able to commune with the Force, gets some additional boosts from it, but isn't latently talented enough to wield it (although perhaps with intense training she could). I thought the result of those experiments wasn't that she HAD a high m-count, but something in her blood facilitated the transfer of a HOST'S m-count without degrading it. Which, again, speaks to that whole 'adaptability' aspect.
FINALLY SHE'S BACK! This episode was so much better than I was expecting but so sad to see her leave again. I would love to see Omega leave with her and get more training, get a crystal, build a saber, get to use the force. And come back to the team stronger in the future. Loved the new Ventress.
I agree. So I did not watch the trailer, but I still got spoiled about her return before the episode. Not watching a trailer is not that hard, but you'll have to stay away from all fandom related comment sections too. Because people love to comment " This episode was sooo boring. I cant wait for so and so to show up." Or " where is my girl so and so" or " im only waching to see....: Even in comment sections that dont have the trailer as their main subject. If your not in those online fandom spaces i say its posible not to get spoiled but otherwise it's really hard.
@@karin-ph1yn Even then, if you are not part of the watch the episode at 3am gang you are probably getting spoiled, especially if you go on UA-cam. So many thumbnails of Ventress.
I hope not. Omega’s entire existence makes zero sense to me and I really hope there’s a legitimate reason and explanation for her existence. She’s probably just another shoe-horned female hero based solely on nostalgia and familiar character traits to keep her somewhat relevant to fans.
She was laid to rest in the magical Waters of her Homeworld so it's likely that that type of baptism is what brought her back from the brink or she could have been very literal when she said she had more lives left and she's being kept Alive by night sister magics. Also seeing as she's a bounty hunter specifically looking for high M count bounties and knowing her relationship with Voss it's likely she is helping protect Force sensitive children and is probably still in contact with him as part of the path
Looks like that creature the slavers had, and that one clone wars episode where Anakin was being pulled into it the one episode with the slave queen I forget her name I think you know what I'm talking about. It was on that ship,with all the taken creatures,, and he ended up killing it maybe that's the baby version. Looks exactly like it just smaller..
Love seeing Ventress back in this environment. Even if the logic is a little thin. Was not expecting her at all. That yellow lightsaber was great to see again. But yeah- the story doesn’t seem quite right
Guess whose back, back again...its Ventress. Ventress is back. Anyone else notice the scars on Ventress' face (possibly from Dooku's force lightning) I like how Omega retrieving a flower is like how Fiona got rid of Donkey so she could pull the arrow out of Shrek's butt in Shrek. If only they knew a force sensitive on a planet with a deep connection to nature *cough* Gungi & the Wookies *cough* "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters."
Omega has the no/slow ageing thing as well so she might be a small kid for the rest of her life, she could catch up with her older brother Boba in Season 2 of The Book of Boba Fett.
Very shortly after the trailer came out they said that Ventress in this was not going to be a retcon of Dark Disciple and shortly after this episode came out I saw something to the effect of "there is a story about Ventress surviving which will be told eventually"; I was focused on other things at that time so didn't get to see in depth. But basically don't worry Dark Disciple is still canon, there's just another story between Dark Disciple and this that we haven't seen yet but we will see at some point.
Maybe the magic used on Ventress literally gave her extra lives. She did die, but it only used up one life. Like how in Batman Catwoman always says she has 9 lives lol.
A YT video thumbnail spoiled me on her return before the season came out and today the official Star Wars Twitter spoiled that today was the episode it was happening.
I don't know how are we treating Darth Vader 2020 comics since it was kind of made to give Exegol and the sequels a bit legitimacy but in those comics both Vader and the Emperor used beast control, since you said we haven't seen dark side users do that I wanted to mention that.
I feel like omega is the first clone with jango fetts m count, so its very low, but it is prrof it can be transferred so experimenting on her is going to confirm how to clone the emperor.
In this particular episode, it struck me how scruffy our boys are starting to look. The team has really been through alot since their introduction in season 7 of the Clone Wars. Also, my theory is that Tech has not died, and that he was converted into one of those shadows. Perhaps even the one that was chasing our boys down the jungle a few episodes back, before Wolffe helped them by letting them escape.
Omega seems to be able to copy other people's abilities, maybe with help from the force-- we'll see. But in other words, she seems to be able to "clone" other people's skills-- possibly making her the ultimate clone?
I don't think that Omega has a high M count, because otherwise why would the Empire keep killing all the Jedi that they come across? Why aren't they using them for the Palpatine experiment? I think instead, Omega has something in her blood that accepts midicholorians or something of that nature. Because in the experiment, they were adding something to the blood and then testing it. I think they were testing if they could add midichlorians to a host body
That's what Emerie told Hemlock when Omega escaped (that she can facilitate an M-Count Transfer). The Bad Batch don't know, though. I don't think she's force sensitive, more a force catalyst.
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Nothing is better than the Bad Batch and Clone Wars.
There are a bunch of people that want to shot down the franchise.
"Your blood doesn't make you a Jedi" is a line I've been hoping to hear someone say in canon since 1999.
Even Anakin who has the highest M count ever, still couldn’t use the force at will. He had to be trained. The way I always saw it, the higher number, the more likely it is to be able to use the force.
Starting a race earlier than everyone else doesn't guarantee you cross the finish line first.
Man she looks great, they have seriously perfected this art style. Every episode is gorgeous
I still prefer the minimalism and concepts of McQuarrie in Rebels; however you are correct, we are seeing improvements on this type of animation, every series. This looks miles better than what TCW season 7 did, and even improved over season 1 of the show. Its pretty spectacular now.
Amen to that.
@@shugaroonyyeah just the hair physics and lighting effects have been amazing
Yep, they're really taking the "Every shot a painting" idea seriously.
Feels like a pretty linear progression to me though - Clone Wars S1-6 < Clone Wars S7 < 'Tales...' < Bad Batch S3 - so long as we leave 'Visions' aside and of course 'Rebels' which was trying something different (and for me inferior but mileage varies of course).
@shugaroony honestly I just wished rebels had a bigger budget to execute the art style better
Wrecker having a Zeb moment when he was looking at the creepy killer assassin.
I thought the same thing at that part.
I was reminded of Davy Jones' telescope trick in _Dead Man's Chest._
It actually reminded me of Jedi Outcast. The mission where you fight Tavion; when you're in the room to unlock the dock doors, you can look down out the windows and see Tavion command stormtroopers into the building and if you look at her through the binoculars, she will turn around and stare directly at you.
The Goth, Witch, Ex-Jedi, Ex-Sith Assassin, Ex-Bounty Hunter, Ex-Corpse! MY GIRL IS BACK!
Ex-Corpse haha, good one!
The Drow Elf of Star Wars is back!
I appreciate that Hunter was far and away the best hand-to-hand fighter in the squad.
Crosshair held his own though. Impressive considering he’s basically been tortured and malnourished for months
@@thecams3858 I was really proud of crosshair for how he fought considering all he's been through i thought she would of easily folded him like a lawn chair
Nah Crosshair
So glad they weren’t spoiled so that the jaw drops were genuine shock
I'm also glad their thumbnail wasn't a spoiler, like a lot of other channels do to get clicks.
I wish it wasn’t in the trailer
@@iluvyummywaffles yeah tell me about it I'm conflicted whether to unsubscribe and block them cause every week I'm spoiled before I can even watch the show.
@@iluvyummywaffles fr bruh, i was just scrolling in youtube and i get spoiled by the thumbnail
@@LaCheeserieIm glad they didnt watch the trailer
eric was just in shock the whole episode 😂
I'm surprised to see him, in the end discussion, be so impacted and concerned as to how it affects the canon. Isn't he the one that always rips on fans/commenters who criticize or worry about canon not being followed? He always seems to poo-poo that, saying "come on guys! It's all made up! If I enjoy it then I enjoy it, I don't get all worked up about canon". But he got pretty worked up about this story and it potentially breaking canon. That, or it even not explaining her resurrection in such a way that he's satisfied and feels like a story (in DD) he really likes isn't negatively affected by the new development.
If he likes it then it’s a problem. He also shits on fan films because they “break canon”
All their reactions were in shock.
I'm glad they didn't look at the comments to their poll last week
@nathanp2007 how does it break Canon though? Haven't got to the discussion yet...
@@nathanp2007 Yeah I was a bit surprised by this too. I expected a bigger deep dive and theorizing surrounding her character and how she was interacting with Omega, as well as how they could go further with Omega's M-Count potential. But much of the discussion was really pulled and deterred with the underlying "issue" of this potentially breaking canon. But I'm not all committed on the huge Star Wars Lore and Canon anyways.
looked up an interview and one of the writers says how she survived will be in future content
Tales Of The Jedi Season 2. Here we Go!!!!
@@jungleblazers1249 or Ahsoka season 2.
That's another possibility
@@awesomeausman0422 Idk about that one, Ashoka is in the New Republic Era. Even if Asaji shows up, they won't take the time to explain her backstory for that show.
@@awesomeausman0422or Ventress could get her own spinoff series😳
@ronnyday6294 we'll see.
For now, in my own opinion, I'm thinking they'll give us more of her in Tales of the Jedi or Ahsoka Season 2.
It makes some sense that Ventress would know some Jedi skills like communing with nature since she was initially trained as a Jedi before her master was killed and she turned to the Dark Side. Also for the yellow crystal, during Dark Disciple she was given a yellow saber so she might've just taken the crystal and either found one of her old sabers and replaced the crystal or built a copy of her old sabers and used the yellow crystal.
Someone mentioned this leading into a Tales of the Jedi arc could be cool and I fully agree.
Yep. The people behind the Bad Batch said her survival will be explored in future content. So it will be either in this show or Im thinking Tales of the Jedi season 2.
@@joethahobo I don't think she survived, I think she died and was straight up resurrected. Quinlan laid her to rest in the pools of Dathomir where she was embraced by Magick. Nightsister Spirits resurecting a power champion laid in the ichor 100% fits with canon.
@@jiffypoo5029my theory: when Nightsisters are nearly killed they enter a dormant state of regeneration. When put into the waters of Dathomir, the process is complete and the Nightsister awakes.
That’s what Thrawn and The Great Mothers are going to do with all those dormant Nightsister crates they’re talking to Dathomir.
@@jiffypoo5029no one’s ever really gone” 🤓. This universe has no stakes. Why even bother. I guess Tech’s alive too, and Anakin after ROTJ, and why not Ki Adi Mundi while we’re here?
I've been waiting years to say this "badass good girl" *DING DING DING DING*
2:35... "What?!", "Nooo", "Sweeet!", "What, how?". I love that reaction, haha.
How she survived/came back to life will be explored in a future project btw
where was this confirmed? I am honestly very curious about this
@@DefaultDanielSClips Not sure, but you don't update her model just for a one-off like here. She's back!!
@@DefaultDanielSClipsyou’re not the only one
@@DefaultDanielSClips interview on the Star Wars website
@@DefaultDanielSClips I think Jennifer Corbett said it on twitter as well
The pool Quinlan laid her to rest in was the same pool that was home of the creature Quinlan killed which generated the green glowing water which is used for magiks including transforming Savage, so until we get a more full explanation I will assume the waters brought her back. Bathing/baptism and rebirth is such a common trope it seems the most likely explanation
Can I just say, there was something so soothing about this episode exploring some underwater fighting even if for a short time. The one area of Star Wars that in my opinion is the least explored of all kinds of worlds that Star Wars has is snow worlds and then ocean worlds at number one. We got it once with the Gungans in Phantom Menace, the battle with Kit Fisto in Tartakovsky's 2D clone wars and then in the actual mainline Clone Wars show with the The Battle of Mon Cala arc in Season 4. Give me more of that please!
That part in the 2D is great because if they were all underwater kit fisto would be the best jedi so we get to see his full potential
@@caleb2670 well he’s pretty much the only real Jedi during that time that could’ve dominated that battle as much as he did
If you look at the close-ups of her face during kraken scene, she has lightening scars, so that thing with Dooku still happened.
To be fair she did eat some force lightning during season 3 of clone wars when she and savage tried killing dooku.
@@jacobireland1273She did, but the scars were specifically from the events of the novel.
Regardless of the question if Omega has a relatively highish M-count, Ventriss' point that Omega's going to have to go on her own eventually still stands. Certainly staying on Pabu would be ill-advised.
Predicting that the Bad Batch, outside of Omega, will all die at the end, and Ventress will take her under her wing
"I've been looking forward to this"
She lied about Omega being force sensitive because of the obvious attachment she has for her brothers.
But how Omega is a Jedi??
@rockerojerez349 If she's force sensitive, she'd still be untrained, so she wouldn't be a jedi, but she'd have the potential to become one
@@rockerojerez349 well shes not a jedi, but possibly sensitive, still dont rlly know. I mean it somewhat makes sense, the Kaminoans had a ton of experiments going on and Palpatine has been trying to clone himself for a mintue now
@@hdudhehdhd2222 It makes sense that the Kaminoans would be trying a variety of experiments with their cloning.
I don’t think that’s the part she lied about. I think she lied about the part that she doesn’t know why the empire is after her.
If she’s alive I’d love for some stories about her & Quinlan helping force sensitive kids escape the Empire with “The Path”
THIS was the hand-to-hand combat I was hoping to see Ezra do in the Ahsoka live action when he says he didn't need his lightsaber anymore. Using the Force as an extension for a palm blast or fighting like a firebender (fast strikes, agile movement).
Yeah, I was really looking forward to seeing him pull off some crazy moves. I really like Ahsoka, but that was definitely a major let down.
One important past thing to remember is that AV /she was once a jedi padwan who's master was killed infront of her.
It’s really crazy they just openly showed you know who in the trailer. And even yesterday they advertised her
Trailers and advertisements in general. They dont care about spoilers.
@@victorious8562 sometimes they do
@@patricksocha6930 Baby Yoda, Disney lost so much potential profit by not prepping for him for the premiere.
@@collecter343 what's that got to do with trailers spoiling bits of a show/movie?
Every time this happens it just vindicates my "no trailers, no promos" policy.
(not for something I _know_ i'm going to watch anyway - these days they only ever spoil IMO)
Oddly enough my favorite part of the reaction was when Aaron finally admitted he has face blindness lol
Everyone always gushes about how Eric is the 'Lore Master' of the crew and all. But I gotta say, Aaron's not half bad either!! He gives him a run for his money often times, ngl! ;P
Aaron’s got a ton of Old Republic info in him too. I personally love that era with the video games and comics especially, I also have some novels in that era but haven’t read them all. But in their Jedi Survivor play-through, he makes a lot of references and in their Star Wars videos he’ll drop little old republic MMO moments that surprise me sometimes
@@TheNinjaBees Was about to ask you where you heard his TOR tidbits from and then you mentioned it later on in the same comment haha! Sweet, I'll have to set aside some time to check out their full Jedi Survivor playthroughs soon! Was always meaning to, but now I have even more reason to!! And that's so awesome, man. Hell yah. For over a decade now, TOR's easily been my 2nd favorite era, just sliiiiightly underneath the PT/CW! And all those cinematics are such gems too, like holy PLAGUEIS. 😂🥵🙌🙌
She went from being hairless harpy to just a harpy 😂
I think the main idea they're going for is that clones don't have a M count at all, so Omega happens to be the first clone to have a M count, even if it's albeit very very small. Basically unless she trained hard like Sabine, she ain't using the force.
I do love her facial expressions this time around. In the book Dark Disciple, they describe her connecting to the Force differently than she ever had and a peace that comes over her expression. This episode is exactly what I imagined it to be
That being said, am I the only person who thinks the fist fights looks like it's straight out of a video game? Like it's not complete yet? I was watching this and wondering "Did these poor creators get their budget cut out of nowhere"
On the point of the Dark Disciple, I knew that she died in that book but hadn't read it yet, so I quickly went through the whole story to prepare for this season. Get to the end and they've returned her to the water and I said "Didn't they call that the water of life in Clone Wars?" And aren't the Nightsisters always messing with bringing the dead back to life? So I'm not thinking her surviving is all that crazy. Like Maul, it's really going to depend on what they do with her, but I already like where she's at. She's not a full good guy, but she's not a bad guy either, and like I said, the expressions on her face are a delight to watch
I thought the fight was cool it felt like she was moving faster than human eyes can process
Wasn't there a flashback to her master being killed and she had hair? I remember her with hair from somewhere
Yes.
Yeah she had brown hair
We will get more of how she survived, maybe from a new show or season 2 of Tales of the Jedi. She was brought back to her home world and laid to rest in some of the waters, so I imagine her return has something to do with how they put her to rest and where.
I was just scrolling, painfully, through movies not knowing what to watch, aware in the back of my mind this was dropping very soon because I just finished the ep and loved it oh man. And immediately this notification. I’ve never clicked so fast
You know what...
i was upset we never got an on screen ending for her so im happy !
I really loved this episode. I thought that they did a really great job in just about every aspect of this episode. There were just so many amazing, interesting and entertaining scenes and moments throughout this episode. Again, the voice acting was perfect, I feel like all the voice actors were giving an amazing performance and through their deliveries they felt like they were fully dedicate and invested to their character and their roles. I thought that the writing was really fantastic and the animation was incredible and was able to perfectly capture the tone and atmosphere of whatever it was trying to portray. And the music for this episode was really great, I’m so glad that they brought the Kiners back to do this shows score, I can’t wait to hear more of the music they have composed for this season. I loved Ventress in this episode. Not only was it amazing to get to see her on screen again for the first time in like 11 years, but I think she was utilized perfectly. I think it was really great and very interesting to get to see her at this point in her story. I thought it was really cool to see her being this neutral type figure and I really enjoyed getting to see her be more tapped into the Light Side here. I really enjoyed the interactions between Omega and Ventress, I thought they had a very interesting dynamic that reminded me a lot of Luke and Yoda from Empire Strikes Back. I also really like getting to see this more wise and calm Ventress who is more in tune with the Light Side and more capable and willing to be a teacher. Again, reminding me a lot of Yoda from Empire Strikes Back. I loved the fight scene between Ventress and the rest of the Bad Batch. I thought the choreography was really great and it was really cool to see them start out by going hand to hand against each other but but then as the fight progressed, they started to use their weapons, including Ventress pulling out her new Yellow Lightsaber. I will say, though there were certain parts during this fight where the footage looked oddly sped up, I don’t know what that was about, but other than that I still thought this fight scene was all around pretty cool. Also, this is just a small thing, but I really loved all the creature designs in this episode. I know they weren’t that important to this episodes plot, but I just really liked the look of that giant shelled, Squid creature and those glowing Stingray looking creatures. I’m still really interested in getting to see more from Omega and her M-Count. With the way Ventress was initially trying to cover it up it makes me wonder just how much of it Omega actually has. And with Ventress saying that Omega’s M-Count will make her even more of a target it makes me wonder for how much longer the Batch will be safe on Pabu before the Empire possibly shows up. It was just so awesome to get to see Ventress again in this episode, I can’t wait to see her possibly return at some point in the remainder of this show, or possibly in some upcoming show in the future, either way, I am really excited to see where her story goes from here. I can’t wait to see where the ending of this episode will lead into next week’s episode and how it will impact the future of this show and its continuing story. I am still really loving everything about this show and I can’t wait to see the rest of the season and where all the characters and this story and will go next. I absolutely cannot wait for next week’s episode, I am so excited!
I said the same about the motion capture during Asajj's fight! It looked so clear but still blurred from her fast motion. Hats off to the animators!
There was a comic series where she was apparently killed. However, she went into a force healing trance until she could revive. Dooku's lightning could have critically wounded her where she went into a trance. Obi-Wan and Vos put her into stasis and then buried her in her home waters; which are magical and healing. So, she could have been revived WITHOUT breaking canon.
Aside, it was a peaceful species of fish that Vos had to kill using the dark side.
It was a novel featuring her and Vos where she died, not a comic.
@@darrenrichardson6146 I'm referring to a comic series titled Obsession where she did the trance. The lightning was Dark Disciple.
This CANNOT be the last time we see Asajj. It’s like the Commander Cody situation, you really want me to believe they just bring these characters in for one episode with no explanation? I don’t think so but who knows ‼️
They propably made Tales of Jedi with her or full spin off series
Never say never, Aaron. #CompleteTheCloneWars #AnimateSonofDathomir
Here's a theory for you - Omega is a direct clone of Jango. Jango was either was actually descended from a Mandalorian with the Mandalorian ability to communicate with animals, which Boba also has, or wanted his kids to have that ability added. That empathy/communication ability comes from mildly increased Midiclorians.
Any unaltered clone is a direct clone of jango. boba is literally a clone of jango omega is a female version of jango on top of that jango isn’t mandalorian by blood he was a foundling so this is full of many holes
And tf u mean boba can’t communicate with animals he isn’t force sensitive
@PyroFox-ye5tm Boba can't talk to them through the force but he can train them and communicate as a trainer, just as Omega talks to Batcher but doesn't force-speak to Batcher. The Mandalorian thing with animals seems to be more than an ordinary link but not an active force user power
@PyroFox-ye5tm a Foundling yes, but of what family history? We don't know if Jango had a Mandalorian ancestor back a generation of two. All I'm saying is that it's intriguing that Boba has an empathy with animals, Omega has an empathy with animals, presumably both of them have blood that accepts outside energy, and there's a strong link to the infusion of the waters into a Mandalorian as explained in season 3 of The Mandalorian and the ability to ride Mythosaurs.
Been waiting for this👀.
This episode and number 3 are the best ones.
I believe she was placed in a green glowing pool on dathomir by Quinlan Vos and Obi-Wan... i'm just glad she's back and if you notice she to use the dark side by accident it's kind of a test for her to to summon that monster and tame it...
This episode and who's in it is an example of why I try to stay away from trailers. (Unfortunately made the mistake of watching this particular trailer when it came out) 💜
Yeah me too. I didn’t even watch the trailer. It was in the thumbnail of the trailer. 😂
@JK_of_Today And all over social media regarding Bad Batch lol, these guys do it right when it comes to avoiding spoilers.
this episode had me giggling and kicking my feet
I didn't know Boris the Animal was part of the blind wave crew.
SO UNDERRATED
😂😂
You hit it right on the nail 😂
Ok... hear me out..... it's long, but it would work.
Since this is the last season for BB and Omega is LITERALLY the key to connecting the sequels and the Filoni verse.... She will wind up going off with Asajj and the boys will sacrifice themselves for it to happen. During their time together Omega starts to develop her force abilities while every episode is the standard mix of bounty hunting while being chased by the empire. Omega's training is thoroughly punctuated with wise tales about her time with Voss to give it that moral impact...but actually serving as a way to both explain how Asajj survived and allow Lucasfilm to capitalize on the Dark Disciple storyline. Disney then milks it for as long as necessary until Filoni can use a grown up Omega in live action along with AV. Omega gets tied into Grogu for cloning Palpatine. Asajj could then tie into Thrawn's storyline with the Witches. With is going to give us an amazing scene in either an episode or maybe even the big movie where Asajj and Ahsoka team up against Thrawn and the Witches that ultimately leads to a very deep symbolic situation with Ahsoka, once light..., now paired with Asajj, once dark...
Ahsoka's Yin to Asajj's Yang in a dichotomy of what is finally once and for all a true balance of the force. No Jedi, no Sith....only the Force in balance with nature...which if you look, has been Filoni's direction this entire time.
.... or it could have just been a one time nostalgic cameo to make fans happy.
... just sayin.
Probably my favorite episode of bad batch so far, and there are some solid ones when it comes to Star Wars lore.
god ive missed her so much
We all have. What a goddess.
Cal was 12-13 yo when order 66 happened. He was 17-18 in fallen order and 22-23 in jedi survivor
35:25 I am "cautiously optimistic." ;)
Blixus is the big sea creatures species.. and yes, we saw it but a small version of it in the clone wars the episode with the slavers the queen gets killed, I forget the name of the episode
What an episode! Absolutely loved it ❤
Yeah like you guys were saying for the most part, I think ventress told omega there's no m count just to make her feel like there's no sense in training so she can put that behind her and just continue being with her brothers, since the empire is after her anyway and clearly that's not going to change, that's the more important issue. Ventress knew that it'd be a one in a million chance that she'd even show any skill right off the bat anyway. I think she tested her out of curiosity and basically got her answer. She knows that she's sensitive enough to have communication with animals if she trained a little, and that could be helpful, but not enough sensitivity to wisk her away and make an apprentice of her. And definitely not enough to take her from her bros. So she tells her she has no m-count even though she didn't test her blood, because m-count means nothing to her. But it clearly means enough to the empire, and she's already on the run from them, so nothing is changed in that regard. ventress wasn't there to count midichlorians, she went there to welcome them to the shit show.
Welcome back to the rest of the crew Rick! It's nice to see everyone in the same room again =)
They said the unfinished Clone Wars episodes are treated as canon since they're all fully scripted, just not produced. Via Pablo Hidalgo during the "Untold Clone Wars Panel" video on the Star Wars UA-cam channel.
Your faces when Ventress showed up were THE BEST! On the one hand, I wish I hadn't seen the trailer, but it did have me looking forward to your reactions to it all season! I'm happy believing that being laid to rest in the glowing green magic lake on Darhomir had something to do with her return. And her newfound balance and affinity towards living beings clearly reflects Quinlan's influence on her. I agree with Aaron that her growth has been great character development.
After watching the episode again, I think it sets up Ventress as a future ally for Omega, potentially if/when she loses her brothers.
As always, great discussion, thanks guys!
the last episode was obvious with Vintress them song playing when Finnic was talking to her
Hunter: She lied to us!"
Me: Umm...you never asked about her past, not telling someone stuff is not lying lol.
I was just scrolling, painfully, through movies not knowing what to watch, aware in the back of my mind this was dropping very soon because I just finished the ep and loved it oh man. And immediately this notification. I’ve never clicked so fast It’s really crazy they just openly showed you know who in the trailer. And even yesterday they advertised her Been waiting for episode 8 and number 3 are the best ones. this episode had me giggling and kicking my feet looked up an interview and one of the writers says how she survived will be in future content The pool Quinlan laid her to rest in was the same pool that was home of the creature Quinlan killed which generated the the the the green glowing water which is used for Magiks including transforming Savage, so until we get a more full explanation I will assume the waters brought her back. Bathing/baptism and rebirth is such a common trope it seems the most likely explanation for Wrecker having a Zeb moment when he was looking at the creepy killer assassin. I didn't know Boris the Animal was part of the blind wave crew. momma is BACK!!!! This episode and who's in it is an example of why I try to stay away from trailers. (Unfortunately made the mistake of watching this particular trailer when it came out) There's also the potential for degrees of Force Sensitivity. Everyone in the galaxy is very slightly Force Sensitive, it's impossible to be devoid of the Force in canon- it's why George Lucus disliked the Vong, they broke the Force. And we see people on the fringe where they aren't sensitive enough to actively use the Force or become Sith / Jedi, but the Force still flows through them and they benefit from this stronger connection. Han Solo and other ace pilots are implied to be on the lower end of this 'mid-level' spectrum, and Chirrut Îmwe is on the higher end of this 'mid-level' spectrum, able to meditate for short-term precognition a few seconds into the future. So it's very possible Omega doesn't have the potential to actively use the Force, but she could be somewhere in that 'mid-level' spectrum between Han and Chirrut. Love this episode! let the Simping commence The Goth, Witch, Ex-Jedi, Ex-Sith Assassin, Ex-Bounty Hunter, Ex-Corpse! MY GIRL IS BACK!
I will say, it was interesting seeing our heroes fight basically the Star Wars equivalent of a Kraken lol
I have been looking forward to this God've missed her so much She can GROW hair?!?! Great reaction
Eric mentioning the Jedi Outcast sniper rifle triggered my Nar Shadaa PTSD
let us ignore the fact that Ventress was train by Count Dooku himself
THIS HAS SEASON 2 TALES OF THE JEDI WRITTEN ALL OVER IT!
I like the idea that Omega is a kind of genetic mimic, kind of like Rogue of the X-Men. She isn't inherently Force sensitive, but when around someone that is, she becomes more sensitive. When around Crosshair, she becomes more like Crosshair. When around Hunter, she is more like Hunter, etc.
This makes her blood perfect for what Palpatine wants to do.
I'm a few days late, yeah, but they did say that Dark Diciple is still canon, and nothing from it has been retconed, and that more info would be given on how she's still alive in upcoming stories that they're working on.
Wing Chun!!! 🔥
According to a recent star wars interview, they will eventually explain how Ventress survived in some future content. We just don't know what or when.
23:58 ya know what, how did she get her original hilt back? Both her sabers were taken by Bariss Offee and then confiscated by the Jedi Order after Bariss was arrested. There may be no Jedi now but there is The Empire, and they should now have possession of her sabers. So like, did she just make herself a new saber? And if so, why make it look EXACTLY like her old ones that were gifted to her by Dooku?
The adaptability is a really interesting theory since most of Omega's talents seem to be around intuition/connection - she seems to be able to sync up with others, learn from others, but also see the best in others (and maybe even nurture it), which is a certain kind of gift. I'd really like to see what happens if Omega comes across a person who really can't be trusted - so far her intuition has mostly been right on. Plus she seems able to really bond with animals.
I am not sure that she herself has a particularly high count, but maybe is more on that Chirrut level...able to commune with the Force, gets some additional boosts from it, but isn't latently talented enough to wield it (although perhaps with intense training she could). I thought the result of those experiments wasn't that she HAD a high m-count, but something in her blood facilitated the transfer of a HOST'S m-count without degrading it. Which, again, speaks to that whole 'adaptability' aspect.
FINALLY SHE'S BACK! This episode was so much better than I was expecting but so sad to see her leave again. I would love to see Omega leave with her and get more training, get a crystal, build a saber, get to use the force. And come back to the team stronger in the future. Loved the new Ventress.
I knew this was going to be a very interesting episode for you guys to review 🎉❤
momma is BACK!!!!
As soon as I saw the Tentacles and the creatures body I thought of the sleeper from dark deciple. It was described a little bit different tho
Yeah i think i might avoid trailers from now on...im so jealous of you guys. That wouldve been such a great surprise for me
I agree. So I did not watch the trailer, but I still got spoiled about her return before the episode.
Not watching a trailer is not that hard, but you'll have to stay away from all fandom related comment sections too. Because people love to comment " This episode was sooo boring. I cant wait for so and so to show up." Or " where is my girl so and so" or " im only waching to see....:
Even in comment sections that dont have the trailer as their main subject.
If your not in those online fandom spaces i say its posible not to get spoiled but otherwise it's really hard.
@@karin-ph1yn Even then, if you are not part of the watch the episode at 3am gang you are probably getting spoiled, especially if you go on UA-cam. So many thumbnails of Ventress.
So we know Omega isn’t force sensitive, but there’s a possibility it could be dormant in her like Sabine.
I hope not. Omega’s entire existence makes zero sense to me and I really hope there’s a legitimate reason and explanation for her existence. She’s probably just another shoe-horned female hero based solely on nostalgia and familiar character traits to keep her somewhat relevant to fans.
That is…certainly a take I suppose….
@@Peoe500 I thought it was implied she was a perfect clone. She's a fast learner and has the potential of all the bad batch members.
@@neofulcrum5013 Its certainly... something...
All the more reason she’s needed for project necromancer. Her DNA 🧬 and dormant will create perfect clones for the old sith
She was laid to rest in the magical Waters of her Homeworld so it's likely that that type of baptism is what brought her back from the brink or she could have been very literal when she said she had more lives left and she's being kept Alive by night sister magics. Also seeing as she's a bounty hunter specifically looking for high M count bounties and knowing her relationship with Voss it's likely she is helping protect Force sensitive children and is probably still in contact with him as part of the path
Looks like that creature the slavers had, and that one clone wars episode where Anakin was being pulled into it the one episode with the slave queen I forget her name I think you know what I'm talking about. It was on that ship,with all the taken creatures,, and he ended up killing it maybe that's the baby version. Looks exactly like it just smaller..
Love seeing Ventress back in this environment. Even if the logic is a little thin. Was not expecting her at all. That yellow lightsaber was great to see again. But yeah- the story doesn’t seem quite right
Ventress had me crying and pissing and shitting myself woth excitement ngl.
Guess whose back, back again...its Ventress. Ventress is back. Anyone else notice the scars on Ventress' face (possibly from Dooku's force lightning) I like how Omega retrieving a flower is like how Fiona got rid of Donkey so she could pull the arrow out of Shrek's butt in Shrek. If only they knew a force sensitive on a planet with a deep connection to nature *cough* Gungi & the Wookies *cough* "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters."
Final episode theyll reveal Omegas last name.. Palpatine 😈
"A Turtlepus!!!!"
This might be the best looking Clone Wars/Bad Batch episode ever
Omega has the no/slow ageing thing as well so she might be a small kid for the rest of her life, she could catch up with her older brother Boba in Season 2 of The Book of Boba Fett.
Omega ages normally, like Boba. She's a little younger than Boba (the Alpha, as it were).
The ending of her story in the book had her in a pool of magick water so she’s straight up resurrected
Best guess, Tales of the Jedi season two might cover this.
Very shortly after the trailer came out they said that Ventress in this was not going to be a retcon of Dark Disciple and shortly after this episode came out I saw something to the effect of "there is a story about Ventress surviving which will be told eventually"; I was focused on other things at that time so didn't get to see in depth. But basically don't worry Dark Disciple is still canon, there's just another story between Dark Disciple and this that we haven't seen yet but we will see at some point.
SHE DID THE DOOKU STANCE!!!!
Here's hoping for a live action Ventress and Quinlan too one day.
Maybe the magic used on Ventress literally gave her extra lives. She did die, but it only used up one life. Like how in Batman Catwoman always says she has 9 lives lol.
A YT video thumbnail spoiled me on her return before the season came out and today the official Star Wars Twitter spoiled that today was the episode it was happening.
7:29 did she hit Dookus lightsaber stance?
I don't know how are we treating Darth Vader 2020 comics since it was kind of made to give Exegol and the sequels a bit legitimacy but in those comics both Vader and the Emperor used beast control, since you said we haven't seen dark side users do that I wanted to mention that.
I feel like omega is the first clone with jango fetts m count, so its very low, but it is prrof it can be transferred so experimenting on her is going to confirm how to clone the emperor.
She can GROW hair?!?!
In this particular episode, it struck me how scruffy our boys are starting to look. The team has really been through alot since their introduction in season 7 of the Clone Wars.
Also, my theory is that Tech has not died, and that he was converted into one of those shadows. Perhaps even the one that was chasing our boys down the jungle a few episodes back, before Wolffe helped them by letting them escape.
Any shot of a person looking back at someone watching through binoculars is creepy as hell.
Omega seems to be able to copy other people's abilities, maybe with help from the force-- we'll see. But in other words, she seems to be able to "clone" other people's skills-- possibly making her the ultimate clone?
Kiner family is awesome 🎶
A Crabtopuss. Just a creature name possibility.
when I saw her in the episode I came stright over here to see if yall freacked out like me
I don't think that Omega has a high M count, because otherwise why would the Empire keep killing all the Jedi that they come across? Why aren't they using them for the Palpatine experiment? I think instead, Omega has something in her blood that accepts midicholorians or something of that nature. Because in the experiment, they were adding something to the blood and then testing it. I think they were testing if they could add midichlorians to a host body
That's what Emerie told Hemlock when Omega escaped (that she can facilitate an M-Count Transfer). The Bad Batch don't know, though. I don't think she's force sensitive, more a force catalyst.