At this point his power far surpasses hers. She can only see so much, meanwhile he has seen the outcomes of his actions and took the path needed to win over the Fremen.
He said “There is no one in this room who could stand against this me.” While surrounded by the greatest warriors in the known universe and wasn’t even bluffing or wrong. That’s hardcore af.
I loved how right after he crouches down, daring them to pounce on him. Like he's not the prey, even though he's surrounded by thousands of armed people.
Literally. You wouldn't want to fight against a prophet that your entire lineage have been waiting, believing and praying for generations for his arrival.
Seeing Gurney’s facial expressions when Paul says the line “this is my father’s ducal signet” was one of the most touching parts of this. He looks prideful but also like he’s still mourning Leto. He feels joy seeing Leto’s leadership come out in Paul. Wonderful acting and direction!
For me this is the mood scene all over again: “Mood?” Halleck’s voice betrayed his outrage even through the shield’s filtering. “What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises - no matter the mood! Mood’s a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It’s not for fighting.” This time, Gurney knows Paul understood the deeper meaning of the lesson and embraced it.
Jessica? It's Paul's plan, no? Very early on pre the water of life Jessica ceremony Paul expresses the need to make the non-believers believe. One of the reasons Jessica underwent the ceremony. Though it can be argued that Stilgars' threat had a greater impact. And here she whispers 'slow down' but Paul natural grasped the moment and seized it. He consolidates his power and closes the loop that opened post Jessica taking water of life.
@mulamulelilumadi4717 It is HIS plan but he following the steps his mother laid out for him, but you have to understand he's trying to avoid as many casualties as possible, if anyone else controlled it the crusader across the stars would have been far more brutal, and her plan was to give him full control over the fremen. So he's like fine we'll do it my way then.
"In your nightmares, you give water to the dead!" is such an underrated line here. He just throws it out as he walks, saying things he ostensibly has no way of knowing with such ease. No wonder they submit to him.
That was my thinking... if someone told me my dreams or what it is I was thinking, and fulfilled all "prophecy" in my view, it would be hard not to follow such a person. Especially if these people had an inkling of the character of Paul Atreides. Can't really blame them, or him for that matter.
@@realms4219bro if someone could, at this point in history and technology, tell you word for word your dreams, you’d probably be at least somewhat convinced in some kind of power beyond the human
@@theAwkwardAvocado There's a difference between that and immedietly dropping down on your knees and worshipping the guy(why would you ever do this?). When someone tells me my dreams, I'd have questions not faith.
@@realms4219you're confusing life on earth with life on arrakis, have some imagination on what living on an oppressed desert planet with giant worms and sandstorms is like. I hate saying this word but it's true, your pov is privileged
My favorite detail of this scene is how insidious and chilling the background music is, it subverted the common cliche of the chosen one taking his rightful place as a leader while some heroic, hopeful theme plays for the hero and his followers... This isn't triumph, this is the beginning of a journey trough hell that hopefully will lead to the narrow path of survival. A masterfully crafted scene.
Same I was watching another youtube video where they mention that the color palette of the movie changes from golden hues to gray hues when he becomes the kwisatz! It still looks completely bad ass, but also incredibly foreboding and terrifying. Like summoning a demon to make your wishes come true.
@@preysidius190 Another way to view this change in color palette and it most certainly did change, is when he came out from the worm juice induced coma he acted more harkonnen which I'm sure you noticed their home planet portrayed in a very sterile looking black/white industrial. This change of color palette might help add through visual cues, Paul's newly acquired knowledge of his maternal grandparent.
For me, this is the real climax of the film - what comes afterwards is just the dénouement, the inevitable conclusion of this scene. It's Jessica's plan winning against Chani's. But more importantly, it's Paul reliving the Gom Jabbar test: he decides to take on the pain of taking advantage of the community that's adopted him (and soaks his conscious in blood) in order to save them from the worse fate of extinction. And he suffers so much from it that, when he's called upon to make the same decision on a larger scale to save humanity via the Golden Path, he cannot do it.
Yeah, thanks for that good point about the Fremen. I reread "God Emperor of Dune" last month and what becomes of the Fremen under the Atreides is heartbreaking. I know Timothee Chalamet read Dune but I am not sure how familiar he is with the extended saga. Nonetheless, his words to Jessica before she left for the south and his acting conjure up that tragedy, "what you did to these people is heartbreaking."
@@arminiuscherusci4410 It's complicated and heavy spoilers for book 3 and especially 4... The general idea is that humanity is on the path of stagnation that will lead to extinction. The Golden Path is the way out of it: it's for a brutal dictator to control the whole of the human-inhabited cosmos and suppress it heavily, forcing humanity to evolve (more socially and politically than biologically) an appetite for expansion and discovery, much like a predator drives evolutionary pressures in its prey. The uber-dictator ends up being Leto II, Paul's son (because Paul can't stomach it), who turns himself into a man-sandworm hybrid and rules as god emperor for nearly 4000 years. Yes, that last sentence is insane, the Dune books get weirder and weirder.
This is almost the perfect cut. It would have been better if you included a little bit of the reactions after Paul wakes up after drinking the Water of Life. His eyes opening is crazy powerful, but how the others view him adds to the gravity of his awakening.
The moment when he tells his mother "she'll eventually come around" and revealing he has the vision of the nick-nack, paddy-wack ... oh, I mean Kwisatz Haderach
Paul’s seen exactly how to sway the crowd. Even his body language is calculated. Notice that when everyone rises up, Paul squats down to address one Fremen. Masterful directing
The fact that "Lisan al Ghaib" stands for "voice of the outer world", which could mean a couple of things like "the voice from paradise" and to be there at that gathering and have people pay attention to you, you need a "voice" the right to speak which can only be gained by Fremen by becoming leaders often defeating previous leaders in single combat. And here he comes this man from the outer world (not paradise), using his voice. He hasn't earned the right to speak. He hasn't followed the traditional way, he challenges everyone and points to the way. There isn't a way, Lisan al Ghaib will show them the way, like Muad'dib shows the way in the sky. Everything about this scene was perfect. Just the mere fact of planting the seed of calling the ONE "voice of the outer world" shows the Bene Gesserit were aware of the fact that he would have to be recognized as an external factor with the right to speak and him pointing the "way" means he will challenge your traditions to lead. They found the perfect words to plant the seeds for this particular culture. Paul took full advantage of every single drop of their personal history and also his own to water the seed of the prophecy just like Fremen do with water. He has them at his feet, he can point the way now, and they will follow.
it kinda does not mean voice from the outer world, lisan means tongue or language, gaib mean unseen, invisible, out of sight, usually refers for something supernatural like a spirit etc. it kinda make some remote sense but not entirely tho.
The Bene Gesserit didn't know where the Kwistaz Haderach would emerge when they started 10,000 years ago and as such seeded the whole million worlds of the Imperium with its own version of the "prophecy"... the Harroken line being the most promising for generations allowed them ample time to perfectly mold the one for Arrakis since that's where the Kwistaz Haderach was supposed to be born. But in a radically different way them this one since the Bene Gesserit took full account of the stability of the Imperium in their plans as they were loyal servants to the throne while fulfilling their own mission. Paul being born a woman solved the House Atredies threat to the Emperor bloodlessly (the Orleans were dealt with similarly when a barren French princess was married to the Orleans heir... when he died without issue then the family line tore itself apart grabbing what they could & the threat to the French crown was removed permanently)... marrying "Paulina" to Feyd would have produced the Kwistaz Haderach on Arrakis & since the Harroken were isolated by the rest of the Landsraad who hated them then they couldn't be a threat to the Emperor regardless of how powerful they were in regards to the rest of the Great Houses.
I just read the book again after almost two decades having it in the book shelf. And this scene is much smaller there, Paul is only talking to the fremen of Sietch Tabr, when they want to push him to challange Stilgar for leadership. Making it one of the movies climaxes was a great change by Villeneuve.
I watch this speech almost every day, something about his voice, the language, the intonations touch me. Especially when he talks about the grandmother stuff and pronounces himself Lisan-Al-Gaib
This scene. How the Fremen go from being willing to fight him to the death, to willing to burn the galaxy to the ground in his name. He goes “you think I might be the messiah. I AM. I am here to lead you out into the light.”
He is the Messiah & he does lead them into the light... his being the Messiah isn't Paul failure point but that he thinks that being the Messiah is bad/wrong that ultimately kills him
I’m new to Dune I’ve watched both parts What shocked me most was how ambitious Paul’s mother is. Like other Bene Gesserit, she knew how to coerce other people. She built up people’s faith in her son as Lisa Al Gaib. Those who didn’t listen, she would just use the Voice on them. She helped push her son down this insane path of leading a Holy War Then again, there was no other way to wipe out the Harkonnens, get revenge, and control the Imperial Throne. Otherwise they’d just die on Arrakis Looks like Paul’s life was doomed either way
Yeah I can see the similarities but still, very different motives. On the one hand, Paul is manipulating the Fremen's beliefs out of a mixture of his desire for revenge, power, to protect to the one's he cares about and some genuine affection for the Fremen as he throughout both films he expresses extreme dislike for what the Bene Gesserit have done to the Fremen and wants to learn their ways not just to help gain popularity amongst them but I think out of genuine respect for their ways. In fact, as far as I can tell, he probably hopes that by bringing the Fremen to their "paradise" he can pay them back for how they've been used. Sauron on the other hand, sought to convert the Numenoreans to the worship of Morgoth purely out of utter hatred of their people. If it seems like I'm dick riding Paul here I don't mean to, it's just my interpretation.
@@pantherapardus1398 I see it as the Gom Jabbar writ large. He can "take his hand out of the box" which in the case means not seizing power, which leads to both his death and the eradication of the Fremen under Harkonnen rule. Or he can "keep his hand in the box" and accept the pain of manipulating the people who have adopted him, alienates Chani, and soaks his conscious in the blood of the billions that will die in the Jihad that follows - but saves both the Atreides and the Fremen. As the reverend mother says "A human will accept the pain to remove a danger to the tribe". It's a choice between two evils, and he picks the latter, partly because he believes it's the lesser evil for Chani and the Fremen (it leads to the eventual gradual death of their culture rather than direct genocide), but also because of a personal desire for revenge. It's a classical trolley problem really, except that with his prescience Paul can't help but see the long term consequences and so there's nowhere for his morality to hide. And, in the next book, we find out that he _hates_ it. To the point that when he understands he has to do the same thing on the scale of the whole of humanity (aka, the Golden Path) in order to save them from long term extinction, he bails out completely. That's the tragedy of Paul: a man with great power who, in trying to prevent great harm, caused almost-as-great harm and suffered for it. People often focus on how Dune is a warning against charismatic leaders, but it also shows how being a charismatic leader absolutely sucks (they are trapped by their own power structures).
I AM PAUL MAUD'DIB ATREIDES DUKE OF ARRAKIS ERU EDIB DINA ISE NADI (The Hand of God be My Witness) NI LISAN AL GAIB! (I Am The Voice of the Outer World) RU EN DINA MARU ISHID DIB! (I will lead you to Paradise!)
I don't think there's EVER been a scene in a movie more heart-wrenching, more full of conflicting emotions all at once, utterly tragic and awe-inspiring, amazing but terrifying, the power he has, that you're tempted to think he deserves, until you snap out of it and remember you're not a Fremen, but you ARE something that someone could take advantage of...
The power and confidence in his voice after he drank the water of life……it was so cool how Denis brought about the rise of the kwisatz haderach so well. My favorite movie this year so far.
This entire sequence, from Paul waking up to giving the speech, was my absolute favorite scene from both films. Paul, up to taking the water of life, had been seen almost like a boy. Then in literal seconds, he had become this kind of intimidating, monstrous presence of power. It was AMAZING to watch in theaters. Dude felt like a completely different person, and there was this constant air of "Is he the 'good guy' anymore...??? Is this the right way...???" surrounding him.
I keep coming back to this moment... Best movie scenes ever done. The rapt devotion of Stilgar is just amazing. Answer me this though; I never knew Paul presentience is so detailed?? I always assumed flashes of possible futures, not mind reading?
Possible futures include seeing futures where you say the right or wrong thing! I took the slight pauses as Paul finding the right thing to say. It’s also implied that those trained to use the voice can use tone and verbiage to influence the thoughts and emotions of others. Including leading them to think something, like Paul could have been doing to the Fremen
Before he reached apotheosis and became a literal god... he only received fragments but after he drank from the Water of Life which forced him into godhood then he could clearly see everything (basically that's how the Navigator Guild created their Kwistaz Haderach in a much bigger way using forced evolution by spice several thousand years previously... though they immediately recognized their mistake and killed him before he could escape containment. A fact that the Chief Navigator brings up when he is talking shit to the Mother Superior about how badly the Bene Gesserit fucked up in their endeavor to birth a Kwistaz Haderach.)
That was upto when he had the water of life,after then it's all 4k either the past or future. That's why he was hesitant to get in a war because he saw billions dying but was all in for a war after seeing the entire future in 4k.
@@65nidheeshkumarprabakaramo68 It's also important to note that "Paul" ceased to be after drinking the water just like "Jessica" did. They are filled with the memories of their entire bloodlines, and in Jessica's case the Fremen's as well. They as individuals are now just the loudest voice in their head, but there's a bunch of others in there as well now. That's why Paul's entire demeanor changes after he drinks the water. He walks, talks, and acts completely differently for a reason.
Might be looking too much into it, but I never noticed how much the chants of the Fremen in the end of the clip mirror the chants of the Atreides soldiers in the beginning of Dune: Part One. Really solidifies the comparison between Paul and his father.
This is my fathers Ducal signet Gurney *please dont toss it Puts it on Gurney😢 😭 *you havent forgotten, you dont believe this bs, lets use these bastards to get ourselves some vengence
I adore the line reading at “I’m pointing the way!” It’s just so fed up, so annoyed. “Fuck you, old man, I’m your goddamn messiah. We’re not messing around with your little tribal customs anymore. We’re doing this my way now.”
I know from interviews Rebecka was conflicted about wearing all the robes and veils but damn, her Jessica is so menacing and conveys so much with so little. At 3:00 is so good.
I love the fact that the undertones of this scene are somewhat sinister, because this is the start of a villain. Also the look on Jessica’s face where Paul goes outside of her own plans and foresights yet succeeds, like he can see even more than she could into the future.
All Lisan al Gaib/Mahdi bs was Paul telling Fremen what they wanted to hear in order to cotrol their culture as Bene Gesserit intended. It's all just lies told to right people in right moments, all being easier by his prescient abilities.
I dont mind the change that there are skeptics among the fremen when paul takes power, i just think it doesnt make sense even in the context of the film that one of those skeptics is chani. She would have been surrounded by dogmatic fundamentalists her entire life and would have had no real cause to doubt paul, especially when the people she looks to for guidance and whom she respects declare for paul. She would have just been swept up with it. It makes a lot more sense, not only because he actually does become a skeptic in the books, for stilgar to break away because he's older, more experienced, guarded in his beliefs and philosophy, and wiser.
58 years later and people still don't understand the purpose of the story. But I think that actually enforces the idea of the danger in looking up to prophetic figures. I only bring this up because the chani hate I see is ridiculous.
She represents the mature audience. She knows it’s calculated, not divine. She knows this speech will be the death of many of her people. We know it too.
@MikePasqqsaPekiM Chani is stupid and anyone who agrees with her is beyond moronic!!!!! Paul IS THE MESSIAH!!! He is a fucking God who can tap into the very fabric of Space-Time & can control the universe down to the quantum level... this isn't theoretical but established fact within the universe. Why would you not follow a godlike being in front of you who has fulfilled every prophecy about himself & knows things that only the divine could know???
Can someone please explain in detail the comment he made to the old man regarding his nightmare. Is he calling him out for evil thoughts or what cause I thought he was calling him out as evil
Jessica: slow down
Paul: NO ONE HERE GOT SHIT ON ME!
He absolutely did not slow down
No one had the balls 😂
Emitting a mass 1v1 signal to the greatest fighters in the universe is pretty damn ballsy!
At this point his power far surpasses hers. She can only see so much, meanwhile he has seen the outcomes of his actions and took the path needed to win over the Fremen.
hahahahahahahaha
He said “There is no one in this room who could stand against this me.” While surrounded by the greatest warriors in the known universe and wasn’t even bluffing or wrong. That’s hardcore af.
I loved how right after he crouches down, daring them to pounce on him. Like he's not the prey, even though he's surrounded by thousands of armed people.
He wasnt lying, greatest warriors couldnt beat the harkonnens... until he came.
Literally. You wouldn't want to fight against a prophet that your entire lineage have been waiting, believing and praying for generations for his arrival.
@@piadoxmillions
Seeing Gurney’s facial expressions when Paul says the line “this is my father’s ducal signet” was one of the most touching parts of this. He looks prideful but also like he’s still mourning Leto. He feels joy seeing Leto’s leadership come out in Paul. Wonderful acting and direction!
For me this is the mood scene all over again:
“Mood?” Halleck’s voice betrayed his outrage even through the shield’s filtering. “What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises - no matter the mood! Mood’s a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It’s not for fighting.”
This time, Gurney knows Paul understood the deeper meaning of the lesson and embraced it.
Yeah it was a really great moment
Paul plays both sides of his power base, religious and politic, Lisan al-Gaib for the Fremen, Duke for the Atreides.
@@carbo73 Except his Atreides side isn't pretend
When everybody rises at the end of the speech you can see Gurney is 200% all in, like he could be thinking LETS FUCKING GOOO
Loved the little touches: Gurney’s pride, Jessica watching her plans unfold, Paul calling the planet “Dune.”
And the" paradise" that's the cherry on top
Jessica? It's Paul's plan, no? Very early on pre the water of life Jessica ceremony Paul expresses the need to make the non-believers believe.
One of the reasons Jessica underwent the ceremony. Though it can be argued that Stilgars' threat had a greater impact.
And here she whispers 'slow down' but Paul natural grasped the moment and seized it.
He consolidates his power and closes the loop that opened post Jessica taking water of life.
My favorite little touch was the tears in Stilgar's eyes. He gave water to his Mahdi.
@mulamulelilumadi4717 It is HIS plan but he following the steps his mother laid out for him, but you have to understand he's trying to avoid as many casualties as possible, if anyone else controlled it the crusader across the stars would have been far more brutal, and her plan was to give him full control over the fremen. So he's like fine we'll do it my way then.
@@mulamulelilumadi4717 Jessica didn t know if Paul was thé Kwizad Adherak. Only 50% chance. She didn t want risking Paul life.
"At that time this world had a Fremen name, DUNE!"
Holly shite , sent shivers down my spine.
HE SAID IT HE SAID THE THING
At that time this world had a Fremen name, Dune part 2
Roll credits
Barón Harkonnen says “my dune”
Is it even some cool reveal for him to say it’s a Fremen name for the planet?
Idk how interesting that line is tbh
i jut duned all over
"Your mothers warned you about my coming. Fear the moment."
Such a strong line.
I love the way his voice changes when he's speaking and when he's speaking chakobsa.
Sort of like a representation of the two sides of this man.
Chakobsa mate, but yes his dialogue is stronger and emotive
@@AC-oz9gr Thanks for the correction. 😊
in the book he uses to voice to inspire the fremen
@@saul6038 I wouldn't call it inspire so much as command in that context. I like this version better.
"In your nightmares, you give water to the dead!" is such an underrated line here. He just throws it out as he walks, saying things he ostensibly has no way of knowing with such ease. No wonder they submit to him.
That was my thinking... if someone told me my dreams or what it is I was thinking, and fulfilled all "prophecy" in my view, it would be hard not to follow such a person. Especially if these people had an inkling of the character of Paul Atreides. Can't really blame them, or him for that matter.
@@kingdomcome1617 These people have been brainwashed since birth to believe in the mythos. What's your excuse for being so easy to convince?
@@realms4219bro if someone could, at this point in history and technology, tell you word for word your dreams, you’d probably be at least somewhat convinced in some kind of power beyond the human
@@theAwkwardAvocado There's a difference between that and immedietly dropping down on your knees and worshipping the guy(why would you ever do this?). When someone tells me my dreams, I'd have questions not faith.
@@realms4219you're confusing life on earth with life on arrakis, have some imagination on what living on an oppressed desert planet with giant worms and sandstorms is like. I hate saying this word but it's true, your pov is privileged
My favorite detail of this scene is how insidious and chilling the background music is, it subverted the common cliche of the chosen one taking his rightful place as a leader while some heroic, hopeful theme plays for the hero and his followers... This isn't triumph, this is the beginning of a journey trough hell that hopefully will lead to the narrow path of survival. A masterfully crafted scene.
Same I was watching another youtube video where they mention that the color palette of the movie changes from golden hues to gray hues when he becomes the kwisatz! It still looks completely bad ass, but also incredibly foreboding and terrifying. Like summoning a demon to make your wishes come true.
@@preysidius190 Another way to view this change in color palette and it most certainly did change, is when he came out from the worm juice induced coma he acted more harkonnen which I'm sure you noticed their home planet portrayed in a very sterile looking black/white industrial. This change of color palette might help add through visual cues, Paul's newly acquired knowledge of his maternal grandparent.
This is not a hero making a speech to motivate his supporters. This is a villain proclaiming a new era to his subjects.
This gotta be one of the biggest "I'm Him" moments in cinema I've ever seen.
talk no jutsu moment
For me, this is the real climax of the film - what comes afterwards is just the dénouement, the inevitable conclusion of this scene. It's Jessica's plan winning against Chani's. But more importantly, it's Paul reliving the Gom Jabbar test: he decides to take on the pain of taking advantage of the community that's adopted him (and soaks his conscious in blood) in order to save them from the worse fate of extinction. And he suffers so much from it that, when he's called upon to make the same decision on a larger scale to save humanity via the Golden Path, he cannot do it.
What exactly is the golden path?
Yeah, thanks for that good point about the Fremen. I reread "God Emperor of Dune" last month and what becomes of the Fremen under the Atreides is heartbreaking. I know Timothee Chalamet read Dune but I am not sure how familiar he is with the extended saga. Nonetheless, his words to Jessica before she left for the south and his acting conjure up that tragedy, "what you did to these people is heartbreaking."
@@arminiuscherusci4410 It's complicated and heavy spoilers for book 3 and especially 4... The general idea is that humanity is on the path of stagnation that will lead to extinction. The Golden Path is the way out of it: it's for a brutal dictator to control the whole of the human-inhabited cosmos and suppress it heavily, forcing humanity to evolve (more socially and politically than biologically) an appetite for expansion and discovery, much like a predator drives evolutionary pressures in its prey. The uber-dictator ends up being Leto II, Paul's son (because Paul can't stomach it), who turns himself into a man-sandworm hybrid and rules as god emperor for nearly 4000 years. Yes, that last sentence is insane, the Dune books get weirder and weirder.
@@QuantumHistorian wtf??? You lost me at Leto II become a sandworm hybrid to reach Godhood
Everything else made sense
@@amuroray9115 It makes sense if you read the books. It's not like it's "space magic" either.
I love how Gurney just yanks Zendaya down. 😄
She's literally the only one in that room who could take Paul down.
That's Frank Herbert, realized.
The movie has a lot of humorous undertones without being a full-on comedy, and honestly I respect that
Twice!
Well, once in this clip but she was standing alone yelling right before this and he did it then too
It's because Gerny also wants to get that revenge on Leto and he knows that the only thing between the Fremen and all out war is Chani
This is almost the perfect cut. It would have been better if you included a little bit of the reactions after Paul wakes up after drinking the Water of Life. His eyes opening is crazy powerful, but how the others view him adds to the gravity of his awakening.
The moment when he tells his mother "she'll eventually come around" and revealing he has the vision of the nick-nack, paddy-wack ... oh, I mean Kwisatz Haderach
@@francoisdubois80 lol sietchposting moment
Paul’s seen exactly how to sway the crowd. Even his body language is calculated. Notice that when everyone rises up, Paul squats down to address one Fremen. Masterful directing
The fact that "Lisan al Ghaib" stands for "voice of the outer world", which could mean a couple of things like "the voice from paradise" and to be there at that gathering and have people pay attention to you, you need a "voice" the right to speak which can only be gained by Fremen by becoming leaders often defeating previous leaders in single combat. And here he comes this man from the outer world (not paradise), using his voice. He hasn't earned the right to speak. He hasn't followed the traditional way, he challenges everyone and points to the way. There isn't a way, Lisan al Ghaib will show them the way, like Muad'dib shows the way in the sky. Everything about this scene was perfect.
Just the mere fact of planting the seed of calling the ONE "voice of the outer world" shows the Bene Gesserit were aware of the fact that he would have to be recognized as an external factor with the right to speak and him pointing the "way" means he will challenge your traditions to lead. They found the perfect words to plant the seeds for this particular culture. Paul took full advantage of every single drop of their personal history and also his own to water the seed of the prophecy just like Fremen do with water. He has them at his feet, he can point the way now, and they will follow.
it kinda does not mean voice from the outer world, lisan means tongue or language, gaib mean unseen, invisible, out of sight, usually refers for something supernatural like a spirit etc.
it kinda make some remote sense but not entirely tho.
The Bene Gesserit didn't know where the Kwistaz Haderach would emerge when they started 10,000 years ago and as such seeded the whole million worlds of the Imperium with its own version of the "prophecy"... the Harroken line being the most promising for generations allowed them ample time to perfectly mold the one for Arrakis since that's where the Kwistaz Haderach was supposed to be born. But in a radically different way them this one since the Bene Gesserit took full account of the stability of the Imperium in their plans as they were loyal servants to the throne while fulfilling their own mission. Paul being born a woman solved the House Atredies threat to the Emperor bloodlessly (the Orleans were dealt with similarly when a barren French princess was married to the Orleans heir... when he died without issue then the family line tore itself apart grabbing what they could & the threat to the French crown was removed permanently)... marrying "Paulina" to Feyd would have produced the Kwistaz Haderach on Arrakis & since the Harroken were isolated by the rest of the Landsraad who hated them then they couldn't be a threat to the Emperor regardless of how powerful they were in regards to the rest of the Great Houses.
Jessica: "Slow down"
Paul: *doubles down*
Javier Bardem was fantastic in this movie. He should get award recognition for it
I agree, I think it’s the best performance in the film. Deserves a support actor nomination
Dude got lost in the character...
I just read the book again after almost two decades having it in the book shelf. And this scene is much smaller there, Paul is only talking to the fremen of Sietch Tabr, when they want to push him to challange Stilgar for leadership. Making it one of the movies climaxes was a great change by Villeneuve.
He should win an oscar for that scene alone
I watch this speech almost every day, something about his voice, the language, the intonations touch me. Especially when he talks about the grandmother stuff and pronounces himself Lisan-Al-Gaib
Same. Great motivation for gym hahha
This scene. How the Fremen go from being willing to fight him to the death, to willing to burn the galaxy to the ground in his name.
He goes “you think I might be the messiah. I AM. I am here to lead you out into the light.”
He is the Messiah & he does lead them into the light... his being the Messiah isn't Paul failure point but that he thinks that being the Messiah is bad/wrong that ultimately kills him
I’m new to Dune
I’ve watched both parts
What shocked me most was how ambitious Paul’s mother is.
Like other Bene Gesserit, she knew how to coerce other people.
She built up people’s faith in her son as Lisa Al Gaib. Those who didn’t listen, she would just use the Voice on them.
She helped push her son down this insane path of leading a Holy War
Then again, there was no other way to wipe out the Harkonnens, get revenge, and control the Imperial Throne.
Otherwise they’d just die on Arrakis
Looks like Paul’s life was doomed either way
I recommend reading the books.
Read the book.
@@THEmetopholus If i read the first book will it give away part 3 ending?
@@shirkeeey5203 No. First two movies are aligned with first book. Third movie will be the second book.
@@shirkeeey5203 no, ep 3 will depict what happens in the second book. Ep 1 and 2 translate only the first one
This scene alone is a giant door opener for Timothe Chalamet. Incredible, just incredible. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
FREEMAN!!! FREE MAN!!!
No crowbar needed.
Watching this in cinema is a experience that I will never forget
I’ve literally been looking for a clip of this speech for ages, cheers mate!
Still an edited version 😅
@@yujx0401 eh, best we got so far, I will take it.
This shit was C O L D
Definitely has a “Sauron among the Numenoreans” vibe.
Yeah I can see the similarities but still, very different motives.
On the one hand, Paul is manipulating the Fremen's beliefs out of a mixture of his desire for revenge, power, to protect to the one's he cares about and some genuine affection for the Fremen as he throughout both films he expresses extreme dislike for what the Bene Gesserit have done to the Fremen and wants to learn their ways not just to help gain popularity amongst them but I think out of genuine respect for their ways. In fact, as far as I can tell, he probably hopes that by bringing the Fremen to their "paradise" he can pay them back for how they've been used.
Sauron on the other hand, sought to convert the Numenoreans to the worship of Morgoth purely out of utter hatred of their people.
If it seems like I'm dick riding Paul here I don't mean to, it's just my interpretation.
@@pantherapardus1398 I see it as the Gom Jabbar writ large. He can "take his hand out of the box" which in the case means not seizing power, which leads to both his death and the eradication of the Fremen under Harkonnen rule. Or he can "keep his hand in the box" and accept the pain of manipulating the people who have adopted him, alienates Chani, and soaks his conscious in the blood of the billions that will die in the Jihad that follows - but saves both the Atreides and the Fremen. As the reverend mother says "A human will accept the pain to remove a danger to the tribe".
It's a choice between two evils, and he picks the latter, partly because he believes it's the lesser evil for Chani and the Fremen (it leads to the eventual gradual death of their culture rather than direct genocide), but also because of a personal desire for revenge. It's a classical trolley problem really, except that with his prescience Paul can't help but see the long term consequences and so there's nowhere for his morality to hide. And, in the next book, we find out that he _hates_ it. To the point that when he understands he has to do the same thing on the scale of the whole of humanity (aka, the Golden Path) in order to save them from long term extinction, he bails out completely.
That's the tragedy of Paul: a man with great power who, in trying to prevent great harm, caused almost-as-great harm and suffered for it. People often focus on how Dune is a warning against charismatic leaders, but it also shows how being a charismatic leader absolutely sucks (they are trapped by their own power structures).
- "NONE OF YOU CAN STAND AGAINST ME" yelled Paul slowing down.
I AM PAUL MAUD'DIB ATREIDES
DUKE OF ARRAKIS
ERU EDIB DINA ISE NADI
(The Hand of God be My Witness)
NI LISAN AL GAIB!
(I Am The Voice of the Outer World)
RU EN DINA MARU ISHID DIB!
(I will lead you to Paradise!)
“In your nightmares you give water to the dead” that the old Fremen is only able to cry in his sleep shows how hard they’ve had it
It will be a travesty if Javier Bardem doesn’t win awards for his role. Incredible acting from the entire cast
Fremen leaders be like better bow down to him before he tell everybody my browser history
I don't think there's EVER been a scene in a movie more heart-wrenching, more full of conflicting emotions all at once, utterly tragic and awe-inspiring, amazing but terrifying, the power he has, that you're tempted to think he deserves, until you snap out of it and remember you're not a Fremen, but you ARE something that someone could take advantage of...
The power and confidence in his voice after he drank the water of life……it was so cool how Denis brought about the rise of the kwisatz haderach so well. My favorite movie this year so far.
This entire sequence, from Paul waking up to giving the speech, was my absolute favorite scene from both films. Paul, up to taking the water of life, had been seen almost like a boy. Then in literal seconds, he had become this kind of intimidating, monstrous presence of power. It was AMAZING to watch in theaters. Dude felt like a completely different person, and there was this constant air of "Is he the 'good guy' anymore...??? Is this the right way...???" surrounding him.
I keep coming back to this moment... Best movie scenes ever done. The rapt devotion of Stilgar is just amazing. Answer me this though; I never knew Paul presentience is so detailed?? I always assumed flashes of possible futures, not mind reading?
Possible futures include seeing futures where you say the right or wrong thing! I took the slight pauses as Paul finding the right thing to say. It’s also implied that those trained to use the voice can use tone and verbiage to influence the thoughts and emotions of others. Including leading them to think something, like Paul could have been doing to the Fremen
Before he reached apotheosis and became a literal god... he only received fragments but after he drank from the Water of Life which forced him into godhood then he could clearly see everything (basically that's how the Navigator Guild created their Kwistaz Haderach in a much bigger way using forced evolution by spice several thousand years previously... though they immediately recognized their mistake and killed him before he could escape containment. A fact that the Chief Navigator brings up when he is talking shit to the Mother Superior about how badly the Bene Gesserit fucked up in their endeavor to birth a Kwistaz Haderach.)
That was upto when he had the water of life,after then it's all 4k either the past or future. That's why he was hesitant to get in a war because he saw billions dying but was all in for a war after seeing the entire future in 4k.
@@65nidheeshkumarprabakaramo68 It's also important to note that "Paul" ceased to be after drinking the water just like "Jessica" did.
They are filled with the memories of their entire bloodlines, and in Jessica's case the Fremen's as well. They as individuals are now just the loudest voice in their head, but there's a bunch of others in there as well now. That's why Paul's entire demeanor changes after he drinks the water. He walks, talks, and acts completely differently for a reason.
Can't believe they got the real Paul Atreides to play Paul Atreides
The way paul said “kau ba kakalit kakari hulai” I felt that😢
I could watch this scene forever
This is hands down my fav scene of the film!
Instant goosebumps, amazing scene!
Goosebumps... Goosebumps all over on this scene...
my favourite moment of the movie
Very powerful scene, great delivery!!
Goosebumps 🔥🔥🔥
This is my favorite scene from both movies.
Fantastic performance.
Might be looking too much into it, but I never noticed how much the chants of the Fremen in the end of the clip mirror the chants of the Atreides soldiers in the beginning of Dune: Part One. Really solidifies the comparison between Paul and his father.
This is my fathers Ducal signet
Gurney *please dont toss it
Puts it on
Gurney😢 😭 *you havent forgotten, you dont believe this bs, lets use these bastards to get ourselves some vengence
These were the scenes when I realized watching the premiere in IMAX this was the greatest film of all time
The language really grove it home
Everytime 🔥Gossembups sequence ❤️
Zendaya the whole movie: 😠
Lisan al Gaib! Lisan al Gaib! La escena más espectacular de toda la película! 👏👏👏
I adore the line reading at “I’m pointing the way!”
It’s just so fed up, so annoyed. “Fuck you, old man, I’m your goddamn messiah. We’re not messing around with your little tribal customs anymore. We’re doing this my way now.”
I know from interviews Rebecka was conflicted about wearing all the robes and veils but damn, her Jessica is so menacing and conveys so much with so little. At 3:00 is so good.
classic free man
that's how ya step up
This scene made Dune among my favorite movies
does anyone have the score from this scene? its so good but i cant find it
"I don't care what you believe. I believe"
Sums it up perfectly.
Powerful..
Fremen in the back rows: Whaaaat??
I love the fact that the undertones of this scene are somewhat sinister, because this is the start of a villain.
Also the look on Jessica’s face where Paul goes outside of her own plans and foresights yet succeeds, like he can see even more than she could into the future.
0:45 just how badass this stance is, the walk to the pose, this just goes so hard
This is as sad as it is powerful. To watch him be so fully consumed in what he so feared to become…
Damn i feel this POWER
Looks a must to see
stilgar: madhi, what do you forsee for us?
paul: "green paradise"
that's something stilgar said to jessica and something stilgar wanted to hear
All Lisan al Gaib/Mahdi bs was Paul telling Fremen what they wanted to hear in order to cotrol their culture as Bene Gesserit intended. It's all just lies told to right people in right moments, all being easier by his prescient abilities.
Paul said calmly
I dont mind the change that there are skeptics among the fremen when paul takes power, i just think it doesnt make sense even in the context of the film that one of those skeptics is chani. She would have been surrounded by dogmatic fundamentalists her entire life and would have had no real cause to doubt paul, especially when the people she looks to for guidance and whom she respects declare for paul. She would have just been swept up with it. It makes a lot more sense, not only because he actually does become a skeptic in the books, for stilgar to break away because he's older, more experienced, guarded in his beliefs and philosophy, and wiser.
I saw this movie 3 times for this scene
Jessica: Slow down
Paul: every single one of you 1v1 me bro
Also “Hand of God as my witness, I am the voice from the outer world” is COLD ASF
Just look how cute he is and he's got presence 🫀
Stilgar told Jessica not to cry for the dead, yet he’s got tears welled in his eyes. He must’ve been extremely emotional here.
This is the best part of the movie for me
"He shall know your ways as if born to them..."
Faith can be a powerful and dangerous tool.
The best scene since the Rohirrim in ROTK
Road to paradise is always paved in blood and bones
“the Hand of God be my witness, I’m Lisan al-Gaib!”
this line is cold af, basically saying “I’m him”
E Rudhi Dina, heshidhanii: ne Lisaan al-Gayib
this scene is what made me start reading the books
58 years later and people still don't understand the purpose of the story. But I think that actually enforces the idea of the danger in looking up to prophetic figures.
I only bring this up because the chani hate I see is ridiculous.
She represents the mature audience. She knows it’s calculated, not divine. She knows this speech will be the death of many of her people. We know it too.
@MikePasqqsaPekiM Chani is stupid and anyone who agrees with her is beyond moronic!!!!! Paul IS THE MESSIAH!!! He is a fucking God who can tap into the very fabric of Space-Time & can control the universe down to the quantum level... this isn't theoretical but established fact within the universe. Why would you not follow a godlike being in front of you who has fulfilled every prophecy about himself & knows things that only the divine could know???
Chani already a Museum Fremen during the time of Muad'Dib
Lisan al gaib!
Good thing he isn't blind because he needs to point the way
- "No one here can stand a chance against me!"
- Elaborates in grandma's stories
- Lissan-al-Gaib!
what language is he speaking here, i want to learn it
Hand of god as my witness line gives me chills
Tendrá nominacion a los oscar? Esta escena es épica.
Mua'Dib leads the way 🤚✋
Timothee Chalamet deserves a lot of credit for delivering an Oscar worthy speech in a completely made up language
Paul: "Your mothers warned you of my coming."
Immature 12-year-old part of my brain: [way too loud snickering]
What's on Paul's wrist?
Can someone please explain in detail the comment he made to the old man regarding his nightmare. Is he calling him out for evil thoughts or what cause I thought he was calling him out as evil
It's not evil, he calls him out for crying for the dead in his dreams and getting a feeling of peace from it, which is against the Fremen way
This is so hearbreaking. "Green paradise"... What a bastard!
That one Fremen: I've got a bad feeling about this...
Paul: I don’t know what god you pray to but you better start praying to me.