Thanks for watching out for this stuff and keeping us (Autodesk Users) in the loop. We don't have time to keep up with everything Autodesk is doing. We're too busy working with their products and just hoping they don't break!
I have literally never used any of these desktop apps. I always kill the process. Zero value for me who uses maybe 3 pieces of software. I've given up on Autodesk ever caring about what their users actually want. Especially smaller programs like Advance Steel. I've had highly voted ideas on the idea station that were marked as further consideration or accepted for over 5 years. Radio silence from Autodesk and the product manager (which changes every couple years) always make promises that never end up happening. It sucks but they have me by the balls so what am I going to do....
Well Autodesk are notorious for showing the "safe harbour" slide whenever they remotely mention or hint at future things, which is basically them saying... you have no rights to hold us to any future plans regardless of what we say! We reserve the right to U-turn on anything! That's kinda where I'm coming from when I say that future plans mean nothing until they happen, because also how many Adsk products have future plans but then get culled and sent off to the graveyard...
Reminds me of local solving of simulations being yoinked from my F360 license, and now there's only cloud solving for "flex credits", i.e. money. Supposedly because things are going to get so much better at some unspecified time in the future using some kind of new solver backend that's apparently only cloud-compatible.
In the last 12 months I have notice autodesk have been covertly changing system settings with my Advance Steel application. I have tried opting out of the analytics but still they are changing system settings. It is hard enough to customise our systems to make them work better without the software vendor tinkering in the background and changing settings without notice.
The analytics component won't change anything directly within a program other than it's own prompt, the problem is the fact that the updates are stealthed and that Autodesk have a backdoor conduit into every customer PC. What if Autodesk were compromised by malicious bad actors, that's potentially millions of high value business critical systems potentially at risk.
@Tech3D yes, I suspect it is the same back-door the analytics use is being used by Singapore to change some Windows Registry settings. I even suspect there are times they have unauthorised keyboard/mouse control. Some voyagers watching over our work.
So the only thing the tool does is search for updates? We've been caught out by Autodesk just ditching software - Inventor Publisher? Showcase? So waiting for "future releases/improvements" is definitely something we would approach with caution. 100% - The last thing any admin wants to be doing is reg key edits. As one of the companies, that was impacted by the silent roll-out, I can tell you we were hacked off! Even our Autodesk Approved CAD support supplier couldn't/wouldn't divulge how the fix had taken place. Autodesk works in mysterious ways!
I recently started with CAD/CAM and tryed fusion and inventor. I was very happy with inventor. But, I'm worried if this company is going to be the one I will choose for my future purpose. Or will it be SW?! When I see this, I'm so confused.
Do we think the idea behind this is to manage the 2024 updates? Smells of the new policy about pirated software. In any case I still use my Autodesk Account website hopefully that still remains!
I don't think its in any way tied in with anything specific to 2024, it's just coming out at around the same time. It'll probably start to populate with stuff as the 2024 gear comes out but like I say, then we're just back to what ADA had before with still a lot missing. My hunch is that 1 tab for products and services will just look similar to what the account website looks like, tiles for products with a couple of drop downs.
I audibly laughed out aloud when you presented the new screen for "Access". Your reaction to the truly pitiful UI and information (or lack thereof) reflected my own reaction exactly. I tried logging out and in several times only to come to the supposition that this was just 2 polar bears fucking in a snowstorm. The only noticable benefit being that its no longer tries to persistently push an update for patches that were 12+ months older that THAT WHICH I WAS CURRENTLY RUNNING. Despite the advanced heads-up promos Autodesk were emailing out regading this in recent weeks. I really do question what I'm getting for a AU$600/mth sub. Their relevtive position in this industry in absolutely no reflection of the quality of their product based on my own experience. I guess their marketing teams deserve some real credit for the business they attract.. Because the day I can succesfully convince my main client that SolidWorks does EVERYTHING better (and they do) then I'm stuck with this said goat shit.
It really looks like Autodesk does not follow repeating advice of its users to improve Inventor Professional in some directions and deliberately holds back efficiency and convenience of some of its products in favor of the others.
Autodesk making those that have to support their software lives harder. Some of these decisions make me so disappointed. The old app was rather crap, so I had hopes for this one to be better. Telling admins to edit a reg key is downright embarrassing.
I don't have one, someone might have done it already on the InvMark site but this channel doesn't generate anywhere near enough revenue to be buying/purchasing parts for videos
Does seem a lil bit out of place for such a large company to force updates without the approval of the end user and resulting and datamanagement shitting itself 😅
Yea that 100% factually happened, it's documented and confirmed. I held off releasing my video as I showed some footage of what it did, the end result, which was new folders being made on a job processor PC without any user knowledge, but I couldn't verify those folders being created on any other PC. So I just held off and then the moment passed!
imo never going to happen, same reasons that if an open source free 3D MCAD modeller spawned up which was on par with Blender, it wouldn't be entertained in major SWX/Inventor etc accounts
I am with you David, I think Blender has a high chance of taking a large portion of the market. BlenderBIM in my opinion is being driven by developers that have a vision. Tooeen also as an OS alternate to Forge has strong prospect of success.
Autodesk should be way more concerned about their Inventor software. That should be way on top of their priorities. As it stands at the moment, it's borderline useless these days. I spend most of my time finding workarounds of getting stable models. We lost almost all productivity in the last 3 releases. Instead of being a tool to save time and money, it has become the total opposite.
I mean, isn't that pure utopia for literally every software or tech company? Tbh Adsk are releasing a lot of content lately which cross-promotes using likes of Unreal Engine, they're not super strict on referencing other solutions I guess as long as they're not direct market competitors
am I wrong tho
all that counts is right now, nothing happening in the future is always as likely as it becoming everything they want it to be
No your not wrong
Your spot on Neil. I wish they would have used those re$ources on something useful.
Oh look it's 14 months later and not a thing has changed.
Thanks for watching out for this stuff and keeping us (Autodesk Users) in the loop. We don't have time to keep up with everything Autodesk is doing. We're too busy working with their products and just hoping they don't break!
I have literally never used any of these desktop apps. I always kill the process. Zero value for me who uses maybe 3 pieces of software. I've given up on Autodesk ever caring about what their users actually want. Especially smaller programs like Advance Steel. I've had highly voted ideas on the idea station that were marked as further consideration or accepted for over 5 years. Radio silence from Autodesk and the product manager (which changes every couple years) always make promises that never end up happening. It sucks but they have me by the balls so what am I going to do....
Well Autodesk are notorious for showing the "safe harbour" slide whenever they remotely mention or hint at future things, which is basically them saying... you have no rights to hold us to any future plans regardless of what we say! We reserve the right to U-turn on anything! That's kinda where I'm coming from when I say that future plans mean nothing until they happen, because also how many Adsk products have future plans but then get culled and sent off to the graveyard...
Reminds me of local solving of simulations being yoinked from my F360 license, and now there's only cloud solving for "flex credits", i.e. money. Supposedly because things are going to get so much better at some unspecified time in the future using some kind of new solver backend that's apparently only cloud-compatible.
In the last 12 months I have notice autodesk have been covertly changing system settings with my Advance Steel application. I have tried opting out of the analytics but still they are changing system settings. It is hard enough to customise our systems to make them work better without the software vendor tinkering in the background and changing settings without notice.
The analytics component won't change anything directly within a program other than it's own prompt, the problem is the fact that the updates are stealthed and that Autodesk have a backdoor conduit into every customer PC. What if Autodesk were compromised by malicious bad actors, that's potentially millions of high value business critical systems potentially at risk.
@Tech3D yes, I suspect it is the same back-door the analytics use is being used by Singapore to change some Windows Registry settings. I even suspect there are times they have unauthorised keyboard/mouse control. Some voyagers watching over our work.
So the only thing the tool does is search for updates?
We've been caught out by Autodesk just ditching software - Inventor Publisher? Showcase? So waiting for "future releases/improvements" is definitely something we would approach with caution.
100% - The last thing any admin wants to be doing is reg key edits.
As one of the companies, that was impacted by the silent roll-out, I can tell you we were hacked off! Even our Autodesk Approved CAD support supplier couldn't/wouldn't divulge how the fix had taken place. Autodesk works in mysterious ways!
I recently started with CAD/CAM and tryed fusion and inventor. I was very happy with inventor. But, I'm worried if this company is going to be the one I will choose for my future purpose. Or will it be SW?!
When I see this, I'm so confused.
I feel another round of 1,500 layoffs coming....
Do we think the idea behind this is to manage the 2024 updates? Smells of the new policy about pirated software.
In any case I still use my Autodesk Account website hopefully that still remains!
I don't think its in any way tied in with anything specific to 2024, it's just coming out at around the same time. It'll probably start to populate with stuff as the 2024 gear comes out but like I say, then we're just back to what ADA had before with still a lot missing. My hunch is that 1 tab for products and services will just look similar to what the account website looks like, tiles for products with a couple of drop downs.
Well now we know where the team who organized AU New Orleans ended up.
😂
I audibly laughed out aloud when you presented the new screen for "Access". Your reaction to the truly pitiful UI and information (or lack thereof) reflected my own reaction exactly. I tried logging out and in several times only to come to the supposition that this was just 2 polar bears fucking in a snowstorm. The only noticable benefit being that its no longer tries to persistently push an update for patches that were 12+ months older that THAT WHICH I WAS CURRENTLY RUNNING.
Despite the advanced heads-up promos Autodesk were emailing out regading this in recent weeks. I really do question what I'm getting for a AU$600/mth sub. Their relevtive position in this industry in absolutely no reflection of the quality of their product based on my own experience. I guess their marketing teams deserve some real credit for the business they attract.. Because the day I can succesfully convince my main client that SolidWorks does EVERYTHING better (and they do) then I'm stuck with this said goat shit.
It really looks like Autodesk does not follow repeating advice of its users to improve Inventor Professional in some directions and deliberately holds back efficiency and convenience of some of its products in favor of the others.
Typical Autodesk. It ain't broke (mostly), but let's fix it anyway & release the "fix" well before it's ready.
Autodesk making those that have to support their software lives harder. Some of these decisions make me so disappointed. The old app was rather crap, so I had hopes for this one to be better. Telling admins to edit a reg key is downright embarrassing.
Hi neil will you test inventor for Intel i9-13900 ks
I don't have one, someone might have done it already on the InvMark site but this channel doesn't generate anywhere near enough revenue to be buying/purchasing parts for videos
@@Neil3D yes i can understand this channel doesn't have enough resources to do that kind of testing.
Does seem a lil bit out of place for such a large company to force updates without the approval of the end user and resulting and datamanagement shitting itself 😅
Yea that 100% factually happened, it's documented and confirmed. I held off releasing my video as I showed some footage of what it did, the end result, which was new folders being made on a job processor PC without any user knowledge, but I couldn't verify those folders being created on any other PC. So I just held off and then the moment passed!
Turn the app off and go back to the desktop app. Then Autodesk finish your job and then release it.
This one made no sense to me either. Sure make it better... But why the hell shove it out the door before its even remotely finished baking.
Autodesk unless they wise up, will soon be replaced by blender unless they buy blender then its business as usual.
imo never going to happen, same reasons that if an open source free 3D MCAD modeller spawned up which was on par with Blender, it wouldn't be entertained in major SWX/Inventor etc accounts
I am with you David, I think Blender has a high chance of taking a large portion of the market. BlenderBIM in my opinion is being driven by developers that have a vision. Tooeen also as an OS alternate to Forge has strong prospect of success.
Autodesk should be way more concerned about their Inventor software. That should be way on top of their priorities. As it stands at the moment, it's borderline useless these days. I spend most of my time finding workarounds of getting stable models. We lost almost all productivity in the last 3 releases. Instead of being a tool to save time and money, it has become the total opposite.
Autodesk are beyond a joke. Their business model at this point seems to be pure vendorlock.
I mean, isn't that pure utopia for literally every software or tech company? Tbh Adsk are releasing a lot of content lately which cross-promotes using likes of Unreal Engine, they're not super strict on referencing other solutions I guess as long as they're not direct market competitors
Just all round useless 😂