Very very very very minor thing I've just noticed, but to add to the narrative around 8:38 when I'm talking about Rev Clouds and drawings, I didn't spot it during recording but the drawing that Adsk have displayed is technically inaccurate. Rev A would or should never have a change note in the table (Bracket Removed), typically Rev A would be "First Issue" and then Rev B would be "Bracket Removed". Just in case anyone is wondering...!
I agree but it depends of your company's SOP. Example: Our company don't use rev - or blank or 0 and just go straight into rev A or 1 and we don't use rev blocks if initial release. It's just how this company does it. Also if you follow ASME or ANSI, you must use ADD: [insert content here], DEL: [insert content here], CHG: [qty etc here] and you never just say bracket, you use item numbers from parts list. If you have Vault setup correctly, that data is then sucked up into the ECO system in Vault automatically and those item numbers can relate to the item master BOMs too and the rev table comments are visible via properties of files in vault too. So it pays to follow a strict SOP in that scenario. (Now if only Autodesk could demonstrate that again and not bury/delete the video for it in leu of AU website archiving. It's so hard to re-integrate this into a different company when you don't know how to anymore.)
I'm still on 2022. I will install 24 at some point this year but just to be on the latest version and not because of any of those features. Thank you for the honest overview. I feel the same way :)
The most exciting thing about Inventor 2024 is that somehow the invention still exist, despite the declined shared usage... Otherwise, the Inventor Help forum is loaded with user's recommendation ideas for features and settings, if the Autodesk development team likes to work on/implement in 25 release (but yes, why burn through cash when the open code CAD products are so ahead of you). Cheers for the honest vlog mate!
I think it's always worth mentioning that Inventor and Autodesk products in general, no longer have big feature releases as a rule at this time of the year. They've moved to a continuous release cycle, and will now delay a larger project they have been working on, if it isn't ready to release. Choosing instead to release it via a point release. We've seen significant updates happen in the 202x.1 202x.2 releases in recent years.
Fusions format for top down modeling is making more and more sense to me. It would be great to have it integrated as an .ipt template inside Inventor.. especially for splitting up sheet metal into individual flat patterns?
I'm already somehow used to something worthwhile in the inventory appearing for two years. For version 2024, the bottom has been hit! For the first time in 23 years of work in the inventory, I will not install a new version. It's nothing, it's a service pack and not a version. What are you guys smoking? Change the grass, it might help.
I remember back to when I would wait with real excitement for the new Inventor, even though you knew there would be hours reconfiguring stuff to get the good stuff from previous to work again. Now, because I have a licence in perpetuity, I miss all that (and the £1000÷ per year maintenance fee). This confirms I made the right choice :-)
Thank you Neil for your review and your honest reaction ... I feel the same way. One thing i come across fairly often is energy chains (i.e Igus chains) and something that dealt with that in a simple, straightforward and reliable way would have been nice as i have been asking for that for quite a while.
It's time to introduce surfaces with G3. This will be a very cool update and further development in Inventor. Well, I would like to expand the possibilities of a 3d sketch (the ability to use it for extrusion, for example). Thanks Neil, looking forward to your videos as always!!! Don't leave Inventor and us!!!))) Good luck in everything!!!
3:57 That tire is on backwards. Pointy end is supposed to hit the ground first. Just like a rain tire the pattern is there to push the dirt/water out to the sides.
how the tire of that pattern is mounted depends on the pavement ..if its loose like dry desert sand its turned one way if its a sticky wet mud its another way....hmm or something like. was a long time ago ...:P
I was installing 24 as I watched this. I've just cancelled it and I'll just stick with 23... Maybe this year's subscription should be 50 dollars, given the effort they've put in.
The export the Fusion buttons being video worthy what's new features really rubs me the wrong way knowing how many Inventor users just can't touch Fusion for ITAR or other similar reasons. If you aren't going to add those features to Inventor fine, but saying oh we added that to Fusion knowing full well their customers bough Inventor over Fusion for a reason is just insulting.
Fair. To be clear though, the button isn't a new feature in Fusion, it's simply a button in Inventor that leads you through a tunnel into something in Fusion. So that feature was already in Fusion, the button just sends you there from Inventor.
Other than the new ability to create Finish processes, the overall range of "enhancments" for 2024 is a complete nothingburger. Was really hoping for some further enhancments and improvments to Model States, the only significant upgrade in the softawares capabilities in recent years that has the potential to dramaticlly improve workflow efficiency.
I am in east Durham and have also been using Inventor since 2004, my organisation has just upgraded to 2024 from 2019, why have they removed the home tab customisations. I had shortcuts for projects, templates as well as recent files. I will be forwarding on your post about projects to some of the people I work with in the hope they start to use them correctly.
And then, there is still a bug, I think from July 2022 in Inventor 2023, wich fully uses one processor core on a Home screen. Thanks Autodesk for keeping our processors busy.. Great advice from Autodesk Software Test Engineer - switch off the Home screen. Well done..
Mine does and it drives me nuts. And you’re correct - their solution is to stop the Home Screen from opening on startup. Seems like such a simple bug to fix but they don’t seem to care. Don’t know if it’s fixed in 2024 (I haven’t updated yet).
@@rickytibbits5971 Do you need to have a specific entity enabled or shown on the home screen to see this happen? Or does it do it directly straight from a clean install of Inventor?
@@Neil3D It happens on all 6 of ours computers at work. You can google the problem, it will find the topic on Autodesk forum. I believe, it might be something due to staying on Win 10.
I don't mind the smaller and more iterative stuff, although my priorities does seem to be way off from Autodesk. I would like to see them working away the majority of their pop-ups. A modern program shouldn't need that.
Hi. Thank you. Every time you put on a good show.😊. I just love your honest version of the Aoutodesk programmer output. I was wondering if you have ever tried to compare the inventor routing with the Sovelia Routing from Symetri. That could be exciting to see how that will work out for you. Since that there are no excitement in the 2024. Maybe this can make some new happiness 😊 I have not yet tried the version 2.0.2 in 2024. But in 2020 it’s exiting for the great majority of user that try it out. Regards Peter Valbjørn from siccadania in Denmark.
Man, could you tell me why Autodesk struggles so mutch to put features to convert mesh into surfaces or solid... mesh enabler sucks... and the other thing is why they don't allow autocad to export a step file???
Oh here are a few of my must haves. A batch spellchecker. Find and replace text in drawings Replace section and callouts to architecture standards. Hatches that follows the long asis. It’s very annoying that hatch fill at a Radom angle. Batch rename solids in the ipt.
@@PeterJvanHaren As far as I remember there's a setting to have "long feature name". Which include additional information (such as extrusion length) to the name of a feature in browser. If you interested, I can look in my inventor how exactly this setting is called
It still drives me crazy that they never finished implementing the "modern" UI across the entire software (see: extrude, hole, etc.) as well as dark theme. If Inventor is now "mature" and there's NOTHING else (sarcasm) that can be done to improve on it, why not at least a refreshed look to make it more modern and consistent? How much does this software cost again?
Totally agree. To be honest, I'd really like 2025 to be a "polishing" release where the team just spend time fixing little niggles. There are so many weird pop ups in day to day use that feel really glaring, or boxes that can't scroll or just look crap (welds).
Pipe break lines, lightning bolt break lines don't look great with cylindrical objects. Better functioning tables. Creating complex tables requires you to build them out of multiple tables because you can't merge information or center values on rows when info wraps to second line.
Seems like most CAD-software packages are getting more and more dull updates for each release. And I guess it is hard for companies like Siemens or Dassault to do major updates to their cheaper alternatives without cannibalising on their higher end software..
Hi Neil yeah I know what you mean . But can you imagine when Ai gets applied to inventor or any solid modelling package it’s going to be wild . Best Robb
Thank you Neil for the honest review! As always, your videos are aerobatics! The update in Inventor 2024 is really boring))) It would be great if G3 were implemented for surfaces. For CNC machines, sometimes it is necessary. It would be successful!!!))) Good luck to everyone!!!
😂 Maybe that's why they're paying influencers to promote it then! Can't sell it on their own merit so we'll get some big names on side to hype it up for us!
Neil, You're too honest for Autodesk. Sad to see inventor getting less and less attention. Seeing multiple fusion buttons make me wonder what type of fusion 360 integration they're going to do next time? Getting rid of constrains to create a seamless workflow for fusion 360 users? That could be in the pipeline. Use both everyday but the feeling of pushing everyone to fusion haunts me.
Surely Autodesk are going to have to be really careful about pushing out these new releases where hardly anything is significantly new. It'll come to a point eventually whereby I'll start thinking "I'm going to stop paying for the upgrades and I'll stick to what I've got cheers lads". Value for money spring to mind.
And AutoCAD springs to mind, that's basically where AutoCAD is right now. But with the subscription model if you stop paying, you stop playing... so there's that!
Very very very very minor thing I've just noticed, but to add to the narrative around 8:38 when I'm talking about Rev Clouds and drawings, I didn't spot it during recording but the drawing that Adsk have displayed is technically inaccurate. Rev A would or should never have a change note in the table (Bracket Removed), typically Rev A would be "First Issue" and then Rev B would be "Bracket Removed". Just in case anyone is wondering...!
I agree but it depends of your company's SOP. Example: Our company don't use rev - or blank or 0 and just go straight into rev A or 1 and we don't use rev blocks if initial release. It's just how this company does it. Also if you follow ASME or ANSI, you must use ADD: [insert content here], DEL: [insert content here], CHG: [qty etc here] and you never just say bracket, you use item numbers from parts list. If you have Vault setup correctly, that data is then sucked up into the ECO system in Vault automatically and those item numbers can relate to the item master BOMs too and the rev table comments are visible via properties of files in vault too. So it pays to follow a strict SOP in that scenario. (Now if only Autodesk could demonstrate that again and not bury/delete the video for it in leu of AU website archiving. It's so hard to re-integrate this into a different company when you don't know how to anymore.)
I'm still on 2022. I will install 24 at some point this year but just to be on the latest version and not because of any of those features. Thank you for the honest overview. I feel the same way :)
on 2021 on a 5 generations old HW :) still works....i7 8700 lol
The most exciting thing about Inventor 2024 is that somehow the invention still exist, despite the declined shared usage... Otherwise, the Inventor Help forum is loaded with user's recommendation ideas for features and settings, if the Autodesk development team likes to work on/implement in 25 release (but yes, why burn through cash when the open code CAD products are so ahead of you). Cheers for the honest vlog mate!
I think it's always worth mentioning that Inventor and Autodesk products in general, no longer have big feature releases as a rule at this time of the year. They've moved to a continuous release cycle, and will now delay a larger project they have been working on, if it isn't ready to release. Choosing instead to release it via a point release. We've seen significant updates happen in the 202x.1 202x.2 releases in recent years.
The sleeping cat was definitely an appropriate backdrop for this release of Inventor.
Fusions format for top down modeling is making more and more sense to me. It would be great to have it integrated as an .ipt template inside Inventor.. especially for splitting up sheet metal into individual flat patterns?
I'm already somehow used to something worthwhile in the inventory appearing for two years. For version 2024, the bottom has been hit! For the first time in 23 years of work in the inventory, I will not install a new version. It's nothing, it's a service pack and not a version. What are you guys smoking? Change the grass, it might help.
I appreciate your candidness and that you speak your mind!
I remember back to when I would wait with real excitement for the new Inventor, even though you knew there would be hours reconfiguring stuff to get the good stuff from previous to work again. Now, because I have a licence in perpetuity, I miss all that (and the £1000÷ per year maintenance fee). This confirms I made the right choice :-)
Thank you Neil for your review and your honest reaction ... I feel the same way. One thing i come across fairly often is energy chains (i.e Igus chains) and something that dealt with that in a simple, straightforward and reliable way would have been nice as i have been asking for that for quite a while.
It's time to introduce surfaces with G3. This will be a very cool update and further development in Inventor. Well, I would like to expand the possibilities of a 3d sketch (the ability to use it for extrusion, for example). Thanks Neil, looking forward to your videos as always!!! Don't leave Inventor and us!!!))) Good luck in everything!!!
3:57 That tire is on backwards. Pointy end is supposed to hit the ground first. Just like a rain tire the pattern is there to push the dirt/water out to the sides.
😂 I didn't even notice that, good spot!
how the tire of that pattern is mounted depends on the pavement ..if its loose like dry desert sand its turned one way if its a sticky wet mud its another way....hmm or something like. was a long time ago ...:P
Your best inventor teacher... Please focus on inventor learning
I was installing 24 as I watched this.
I've just cancelled it and I'll just stick with 23...
Maybe this year's subscription should be 50 dollars, given the effort they've put in.
The export the Fusion buttons being video worthy what's new features really rubs me the wrong way knowing how many Inventor users just can't touch Fusion for ITAR or other similar reasons. If you aren't going to add those features to Inventor fine, but saying oh we added that to Fusion knowing full well their customers bough Inventor over Fusion for a reason is just insulting.
Fair. To be clear though, the button isn't a new feature in Fusion, it's simply a button in Inventor that leads you through a tunnel into something in Fusion. So that feature was already in Fusion, the button just sends you there from Inventor.
@@Neil3D it does use AnyCAD at least. So you can round trip through Fusion and back into Inventor associatively.... But still not a new feature imo
Other than the new ability to create Finish processes, the overall range of "enhancments" for 2024 is a complete nothingburger. Was really hoping for some further enhancments and improvments to Model States, the only significant upgrade in the softawares capabilities in recent years that has the potential to dramaticlly improve workflow efficiency.
I am in east Durham and have also been using Inventor since 2004, my organisation has just upgraded to 2024 from 2019, why have they removed the home tab customisations. I had shortcuts for projects, templates as well as recent files. I will be forwarding on your post about projects to some of the people I work with in the hope they start to use them correctly.
And then, there is still a bug, I think from July 2022 in Inventor 2023, wich fully uses one processor core on a Home screen. Thanks Autodesk for keeping our processors busy.. Great advice from Autodesk Software Test Engineer - switch off the Home screen. Well done..
My Inventor doesn't max out a core on the home screen, never seen that, do you have any more info on that?
Mine does and it drives me nuts. And you’re correct - their solution is to stop the Home Screen from opening on startup. Seems like such a simple bug to fix but they don’t seem to care. Don’t know if it’s fixed in 2024 (I haven’t updated yet).
@@rickytibbits5971 Do you need to have a specific entity enabled or shown on the home screen to see this happen? Or does it do it directly straight from a clean install of Inventor?
@@Neil3D we have seen this as well with customers, but haven't been able to replicate it ourselves
@@Neil3D It happens on all 6 of ours computers at work. You can google the problem, it will find the topic on Autodesk forum. I believe, it might be something due to staying on Win 10.
Very useful and thank you for business my business:))))) You did a lot with your vidoes
I'll probably install it at some point but right now there isn't one new feature that gives me goose bumps. 2024 Meh!
You mean to say that edge symbols on a drawing dont rock your world?
I don't mind the smaller and more iterative stuff, although my priorities does seem to be way off from Autodesk.
I would like to see them working away the majority of their pop-ups. A modern program shouldn't need that.
Scale 1 : 7.5 is practical also ! I need some help with auto-exploded view on Inventor 2023 ! I cannot find a solution !
Hi. Thank you. Every time you put on a good show.😊. I just love your honest version of the Aoutodesk programmer output. I was wondering if you have ever tried to compare the inventor routing with the Sovelia Routing from Symetri. That could be exciting to see how that will work out for you. Since that there are no excitement in the 2024. Maybe this can make some new happiness 😊 I have not yet tried the version 2.0.2 in 2024. But in 2020 it’s exiting for the great majority of user that try it out. Regards Peter Valbjørn from siccadania in Denmark.
Man, could you tell me why Autodesk struggles so mutch to put features to convert mesh into surfaces or solid... mesh enabler sucks... and the other thing is why they don't allow autocad to export a step file???
Niel now becomes Autodesk's public enemy #1. Ha ha. Thanks for the honest review.
H'es saying what all users will eventually find out for themselves anyway. That's why I love his channel.
Oh here are a few of my must haves.
A batch spellchecker.
Find and replace text in drawings
Replace section and callouts to architecture standards.
Hatches that follows the long asis. It’s very annoying that hatch fill at a Radom angle.
Batch rename solids in the ipt.
Wish I could just hover over features in the browser tree to show things like the extrusion distance. Or am I missing something?
@@PeterJvanHaren As far as I remember there's a setting to have "long feature name". Which include additional information (such as extrusion length) to the name of a feature in browser. If you interested, I can look in my inventor how exactly this setting is called
I wish the would do something to improve the Stress Analysis reports!
It still drives me crazy that they never finished implementing the "modern" UI across the entire software (see: extrude, hole, etc.) as well as dark theme. If Inventor is now "mature" and there's NOTHING else (sarcasm) that can be done to improve on it, why not at least a refreshed look to make it more modern and consistent?
How much does this software cost again?
Totally agree. To be honest, I'd really like 2025 to be a "polishing" release where the team just spend time fixing little niggles. There are so many weird pop ups in day to day use that feel really glaring, or boxes that can't scroll or just look crap (welds).
Pipe break lines, lightning bolt break lines don't look great with cylindrical objects. Better functioning tables. Creating complex tables requires you to build them out of multiple tables because you can't merge information or center values on rows when info wraps to second line.
Seems like most CAD-software packages are getting more and more dull updates for each release. And I guess it is hard for companies like Siemens or Dassault to do major updates to their cheaper alternatives without cannibalising on their higher end software..
Fair comment, but Inventor IS AutoDesks premium design package. It's not like SolidWorks Vs Catia
@@TheCuriousOrbs Could add more surfacing into inventor. Guess it would take a lot before alias started taking a hit from it.
Hi Neil yeah I know what you mean . But can you imagine when Ai gets applied to inventor or any solid modelling package it’s going to be wild . Best Robb
Generative Design in Fusion 360 is a bit of a glimpse of thins to come
I keep hoping to get folders to organize design tree items, but I keep getting disappointed...
Thank you Neil for the honest review! As always, your videos are aerobatics! The update in Inventor 2024 is really boring))) It would be great if G3 were implemented for surfaces. For CNC machines, sometimes it is necessary. It would be successful!!!))) Good luck to everyone!!!
If you see the list of new features of 3ds Max 2024, you will believe in the amazing progress of Inventor!
😂 Maybe that's why they're paying influencers to promote it then! Can't sell it on their own merit so we'll get some big names on side to hype it up for us!
Yes they work very hard,,, but (I think) only few weeks per year.
people just run out of ideas .....everywhere not just in cad development...it needs another industrial revolution like revolution :D
Neil, You're too honest for Autodesk. Sad to see inventor getting less and less attention. Seeing multiple fusion buttons make me wonder what type of fusion 360 integration they're going to do next time? Getting rid of constrains to create a seamless workflow for fusion 360 users? That could be in the pipeline. Use both everyday but the feeling of pushing everyone to fusion haunts me.
Your cat seems extremely disinterested ! Happy New Year !
Surely Autodesk are going to have to be really careful about pushing out these new releases where hardly anything is significantly new. It'll come to a point eventually whereby I'll start thinking "I'm going to stop paying for the upgrades and I'll stick to what I've got cheers lads". Value for money spring to mind.
And AutoCAD springs to mind, that's basically where AutoCAD is right now. But with the subscription model if you stop paying, you stop playing... so there's that!
Still waiting on tab and slot after years of asking
If you want to feel better about how Inventor is doing; you can try and run Civil 3D or some of the other Infrastructure tools. 😂
Or Advanced Steel which has just been put into maintenance mode aka cancelled in 3-4 years!
sleep it off
autodesk won't sponsor your videos because all you do is complain
Is that true though or have you only watched the complaining ones because that's what you and most of the YT audience are attracted to and feed off
@@Neil3D this is the only one I've seen. good to know there's other genres!