Comparing the US and China: Homelessness and the Housing Crisis

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2023
  • In the US and China, there are housing crises but they have different histories and roots. How many homeless people are there in China? As housing prices across the globe skyrocket, we take a look at the way that the U.S. government and the Chinese government have approached the issue of housing and homelessness.
    We are joined by Will Merrifield, Director of the Center for Social Housing and Public Investment, and Ma Xiaofeng, content producer on Bilibili, to dive deeper into the root causes of the housing crisis in the United States and China.
    Overlap is a global conversation show based on a simple concept - while US elites are working to build a new Cold War environment with China, we want to do the opposite, with people-to-people dialogue and virtual exchanges that show how much we have in common, and how much we have to lose from a new policy of isolation and demonization. This show is made in collaboration with our friends at WaveMedia @WaveMedia, a private media house in China.

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  • @BreakThroughNews
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    • @pingpong7810
      @pingpong7810 Рік тому

      🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🉐🈲🉐🈲🉐🈲hongkong country🉐🉐🉐🉐japan save taiwan🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

    • @1mastcreator
      @1mastcreator Рік тому

      just go and see if Cihina has homeless like Americans do! I never see anyway!

  • @michael511128
    @michael511128 Рік тому +141

    Comparing homeless between China and US is senseless. You can compare US homeless to Western Europe, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland or Japan but NOT China. One can go out in any major city in China to walk around for 24 hrs and not come across a single homeless people.
    What you should compare China with the US is China is the Happiest Country with 91% feeling satisfied and happy and 95% public approval for the government, both US survey stats. China doesn’t have shootings, racism, opioids, drugs, gang lands, arm robberies, evictions, homeless, hunger, inflation, student loans, medical bills, wars and lies to its people.

    • @samliew6610
      @samliew6610 Рік тому +18

      Fully agree as I had worked/stayed there for more than 5 yrs. The cities are very safe as I had not seen any major crime during that period.

    • @jaychen512
      @jaychen512 Рік тому +13

      agree most of your comments but China is far from perfect. It still has a lot of problems. Some are another side of coin : You have good part of a system while also have to take negative side.
      As get help from friends and family it's partially culture factor. Before China open to the world , normal people help each other unselfishly even more than. However it was a poor scociaty. Today China is very capitalist scociaty like US. people became selfish compare to the old days. We cannot deny capitalism brought prosperity but also brought problems along with it.
      But because history and especially the government is still CPP,a lot of socialist factors survived. That's why we see a lot of positive side. Government played a big role. The biggest beneficiaries are poor areas. Their infrastructures are totally subsidized by government from revenues of rich provinces. In general China is a more human society because of remaining socialist factors.
      But western media accuse China is a totalitarian regime with no democracy and freedom.
      See,you cannot have both but western media believe Chinese are too stupid to understand modern concept of democracy and human rights and keep a regime with no election.

    • @fenglihei
      @fenglihei Рік тому +7

      @@jaychen512 民主是一个很可笑的词语,因为在冷战时期这是苏联用来标榜自己的。 没错,那个时候民主和自由也是对立的。

    • @michael511128
      @michael511128 Рік тому +6

      @@jaychen512 Yesterday I wrote a comment on another video: ​​⁠Thanks. It’s rare to find resonance. I wrote another comment elsewhere that I would like to share. It’s about the subject China has 91% population feeling happy and satisfied and 95% public approval for the government.
      The first question is what is democracy? Noam Chomsky’s book Requiem for the American Dream-Aristotle: when the minority of the rich rule it is oligarchy; when the majority of poor rule it is democracy. But the poor will always vote to take away the properties of the rich…Aristotle’s solution-reduce inequality; US solution-reduce democracy.
      Inequality was severe in early 1900s. US workers formed unions, socialist and communist parties to make demands against the capitalists. Then came the Great Depression, New Deal and WW2. After the economy revitalised and the elites regained power they immediately clamped down on their opponents under McCarthyism. Thousands of working class leaders were purged, jailed or worse. What was that? Authoritarian, fascism or simply gangsterism? They didn’t call it Communist vs Capitalist because capitalist wasn’t so legitimate. They mastered the invention of communist vs democracy. This preaching was spread all over the western world through its education system which has been a channel of US cultural hegemony.
      Socialism does not conflict with democracy. Socialism is an ideology, democracy is methods. China has both. The first four paragraphs of China’s Constitution are Socialism, Power Belongs to the People, Democracy, Minority Rights. In China, voting are carried out in municipal levels. People know best about local issues that them. But they need to vote for presidents who seem to know things about economics or foreign policies. What for? How many in a million are qualified to vote for those complex issues? Therefore government officials are selected on a merit basis by those who qualify.
      In most countries of today’s world democracy should be best practiced where capable governments aim serve the poor and the weak. It is not the responsibility of the incapable to demand for their needs. If they have basic needs to demand for it is already insufficiencies in government performance. To take it further, global warming, poverty and extinction of species are matters of democracy. They are different parts of the same problem.

    • @kevinevans8505
      @kevinevans8505 Рік тому +1

      Thank God there are so many oriental folk coming over and having a look at what the rich strive for with all their twaddle about ' freedom ' One thing we learn from history is that people very quickly forget what hardship felt like , so lets hope that we get loads of Chinese people, in universities and package tours having a good look at what it's really like living in a society where everyone is able to ' make it ' but not free to just live. With a bit of luck the lesson will last for a couple of generations.

  • @Skar_King_Kong
    @Skar_King_Kong Рік тому +255

    China is getting closer to a StarTrek-like civilization while the US to a MadMax-like civilization.

    • @geopaulet923
      @geopaulet923 Рік тому +33

      I hate to admit it but so true because I live here in the US and I’m beginning to see the downfalls of everything here.

    • @presterjohn1697
      @presterjohn1697 Рік тому +1

      Can't forget to thank the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller, along with think tanks such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Asia Society, and Trilateral Commission for helping to liberalize China.

    • @lisa.e5776
      @lisa.e5776 Рік тому

      West is evil to create chaos in all over the world in the name of liberation. Do you know that people hate you ?

    • @truthaboveall7988
      @truthaboveall7988 Рік тому +25

      Perfectly put. This is Y it’s so depressing how the failed economics in the US & in every one of our neoliberal vassal states is being shifting blame to China who has the most successful economic Govt model in history hands down
      If the US could stop displacing 10’s of millions & pillaging the wealth/labour from the developing nations we wouldn’t c mass migration to Europe the US Australia ect - then we cry about it & many vote fascist over it ignoring the reason & consequences of the US war machine
      We r unbelievably arrogant to think we can sanction China & Russia into collapse & regime change
      This will not work - unlike in the west China & Russia have a high approval of their Govts

    • @JS-ih7lu
      @JS-ih7lu Рік тому

      @@presterjohn1697 the same Ford and Rockefeller whose families got rich by selling opium to China during the Opium Wars?

  • @kinky_Z
    @kinky_Z Рік тому +127

    It's not just homeless shelters or sidewalks. There is a huge contingent of homeless sleeping in their vehicles.

    • @hink0027
      @hink0027 Рік тому +5

      true , anyone cant afford house / sleeping in street or car . called homeless , i believe alot more people sleep in car

    • @mystictraveler8642
      @mystictraveler8642 Рік тому +6

      Sleeping in the streets is very dangerous. Sleeping in the car is best. Very dangerous in the streets. Shelters are more dangerous. You will get your belongings stolen. You just hang onto to your shoes. They will ste that and you will realize how important shoes are for the first time in your life.

    • @Shane-fp3qw
      @Shane-fp3qw Рік тому +3

      Yup that was me, I knew ppl who had full time jobs living in their car. Every place I parked there were others. So the problem is under reported if they’re just going off shelters.

    • @pbworld7858
      @pbworld7858 Рік тому +2

      It's 'nicer' to say 'vehicularly housed'. You know, like how an obese person is called horizontally challenged, or plus size.

    • @quantumgoddess7870
      @quantumgoddess7870 Рік тому

      RV dwellers like myself

  • @seymorefact4333
    @seymorefact4333 Рік тому +37

    🇺🇸 in the USA...we don't have a govt. We have Corp that govern our country. With one rule: Return on Investment.

    • @user-jl8wg2eh3f
      @user-jl8wg2eh3f Рік тому

      Don't tell your fellow citizens for they'll tell to pack up and leave if you don't like it.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Рік тому +1

      @user-jl8wg2eh3f lol... the people that tell me this. They need help most. Decades of patriotic propoganda. They will always be in the dark.

    • @user-jl8wg2eh3f
      @user-jl8wg2eh3f Рік тому +1

      @@seymorefact4333 Tell me about it. I've always wondered about the Stars & Stripes flapping in the wind at those trailer parks. I mean, the inhabitants are exactly the ones that have benefitted from being "patriotic". I think they don't know the difference between patriotism and being used as cannon fodder.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Рік тому

      @user-jl8wg2eh3f ⚠️🇺🇸⚠️😆 both parties keep people stupid, obese, and drugged for life. With the fake media from CNN and Fox, you have complete control. Divide and conquer!

  • @DinoCism
    @DinoCism Рік тому +54

    Finally someone saying the obvious truth. It's so gaslighting every time you hear people say that the only two causes of homelessness are mental health and addiction, yet when they talk about their own lives the cost of living is a constant issue. It's like it never occurs to them that if costs are going up for them they are for homeless people as well. Besides, if you are addicted to drugs you have access to money, you just might not have enough of it to afford a roof over your head when all that your city builds for housing is luxury condos.

    • @user-ug3rz4cu4s
      @user-ug3rz4cu4s Рік тому

      Bootstrap mentality

    • @catsNcode
      @catsNcode Рік тому +2

      Drugs and mental illness could very well be a result of homelessness, and not the cause.

    • @catsNcode
      @catsNcode Рік тому +1

      They need to just create a public housing system like Singapore.

    • @rodolfodoce
      @rodolfodoce 11 місяців тому

      @@catsNcodeSingapore is a military base to sell Asian goods to the west.
      British naval base in the inception to become a us air force base. The west only trades with guns, unlike china.
      By the way happy 58 years of authoritarian capitalist paradise! I ❤ Singapore 🇸🇬 🎉

    • @suzyq9212
      @suzyq9212 5 місяців тому

      It's a lifestyle choice

  • @jamysmith7891
    @jamysmith7891 Рік тому +32

    It’s not a crisis, it’s a construct

  • @duinay3
    @duinay3 Рік тому +16

    It's disgusting how much a joke affordable housing is in the US - in California you can't go anywhere without seeing a homeless person

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 11 місяців тому

      I dunno but being homeless in Califonia doesn't seem so bad, good weather, all of your salary goes into your investments. Solar power can power your devices phones and tablets.

    • @duinay3
      @duinay3 11 місяців тому

      @@aoeu256 yes, this is why we have so much homeless here because we incentivize them to come here - Democrats ruined this state

    • @Cherubim6166
      @Cherubim6166 5 місяців тому

      @@aoeu256yea right , until you have no where to sleep , constantly being moved by cops, dying of dehydration and hunger cause no money for food . And don’t even get me started about Californias heat waves that often can lead to death with long term exposure ….. I’m good

  • @marykennedy2051
    @marykennedy2051 Рік тому +80

    The USA by a long shot. China has raised hundreds of millions out of poverty while the USA has driven most us into it.

    • @presterjohn1697
      @presterjohn1697 Рік тому

      Who's surveillance state is better?

    • @ChrisZ901
      @ChrisZ901 Рік тому

      ​​​@@presterjohn1697 be careful what you ask lol. Per capita, USA is at the top with 15 cameras per 100 individuals making it the most surveillanced country in the world. But our MSM won't tell you that.

    • @presterjohn1697
      @presterjohn1697 Рік тому

      @@ChrisZ901 What's there to be afraid of? The biggest provider of US surveillance cameras to the US is owned by the Chinese. Hikvision. Their cameras are on US military bases, city streets, private homes and businesses.
      And how amusing too when the US media had people distracted by BS stories concerning balloons and secret Cuban spy bases.
      I wish I was making this up.

    • @yongdeng1813
      @yongdeng1813 Рік тому

      @@presterjohn1697 the US does the same in the states and around the world. Normal american citizens just dont know about it thats all! The CIA even tapped ex german chancellor’s phone, TWiCE and both times got caught!! So when u asked such a quesrion and thinking u did something to bash china, think again….

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Рік тому +16

      @@presterjohn1697 The US has far more cameras per capita, loving the pathetic whataboutism though.

  • @keirenle
    @keirenle Рік тому +24

    We have the same problem here. If you earned min wage, you would never be able to secure a deposit for a home in Sydney. The maths just does not add up. Basically, if your parents do not own a home and if you don't earn a well above average wage, then you either get 2 jobs or move away.

    • @leanlifer
      @leanlifer Рік тому

      The same goes for most major Chinese cities. You cannot afford to rent a normal home in any larger cities if don't make 5 times the minimal wage (usually we use minimal monthly salary here, as most jobs are full-time). If you make 2 times to 3 times, you will only be able to rent a room in a condo.
      What didn't mentioned in the video is most of those migrant works are living in dorm like situation where four to six people share a room with bunk beds. The cost of dorms is next to free, thus there will be no homeless if they are willing to work. The living situation isn't that ideal though.

    • @rodolfodoce
      @rodolfodoce 11 місяців тому

      @@leanliferstill better that the west. Real estate is a vehicle of investment, maybe in china is just shelter.
      I’m going to find out, I’m moving to Beijing next September.

  • @DK-ev9dg
    @DK-ev9dg Рік тому +49

    In china, houses are for living and for peace. They don't see houses as money making machine. In US, houses are for business and profit.

    • @Nathan-tn4qi
      @Nathan-tn4qi Рік тому

      Actually it’s not accurate. Real estate is the NO.1 driver of China’s economy and 70% of people’s wealth are in housing market

    • @ShenStefan
      @ShenStefan Рік тому +3

      Not for top-tier cities in China though, overall in big cities they are still considered a money making machine.

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn Рік тому

      China is not the perfect socialist utopia Western leftists envision. Housing speculation pricing out lower income people is def a thing, and the many other problems that come with capitalism also exist. But at least they dont let it get so bad that crony capitalism and corporatism canibilize society alive like in the US.

    • @jakewest6273
      @jakewest6273 Рік тому +4

      China or some Chinese in capital class (yes, there are some Chinese too are capitalistic) invest heavily in multiple houses in big cities. Difference is, Chinese govt will do something about it to curb this problem, ie by boost more supplies and tax the one who owns multiple properties more to discourage this type of capitalistic behavior.

    • @nurainiarsad7395
      @nurainiarsad7395 Рік тому +2

      this attitude of treating housing as profit sources first and shelter maybe is spreading to other countries influenced by western style capitalism and investment capital. where you buy on credit to earn over the cost of capital, rather than traditional landlords who tend to be able to afford paying for the property separately from whether and for how much they can rent it out for.
      this attitude of getting rich quick from exploiting the human need for shelter will have a deeply negative and long term effect to citizens’ quality of life, societal cohesion, and will worsen inequality.

  • @peterohrmund1135
    @peterohrmund1135 Рік тому +46

    Great Work! Funny how the Corporate Owned US Media will never make this a Topic! Homelessness

    • @marvinfok65
      @marvinfok65 Рік тому

      The day Assange was arrested, independent journalism is dead in the west. We hear the same thing across all medias they are just enforcing the ideas that they want us to believe.

  • @samtat5873
    @samtat5873 Рік тому +40

    Really can't compare between China & U$. Both are big different level such so many things. First - China don't have any homeless live on the sidewalk. Second - China do care so much their own citizens eat well and live well. Thrid - China never go everywhere the world creating trouble or war. Four - China willing to learn and improve themself for keep continue development their country day by day and year by year. Five - China never go to other country setting up their militray bases. Six - China never sending their Navy Warships and Aircraft Carrier near and threat other countries at all. Unlike other side that evils country does. First - That country couldn't able to count how many homeless living on side walk of every cities. Second - That country don't care much about their own citizens eat well and live well. But rather want to care so much Xinjiang Uyghurs and Taiwan citizens their human rights, eat well and live well. Thrid - That country keep go everywhere the world creating more trouble and war. Four - That country aren't willing to learn and improve themself for development their own country day by day and year by year. But they rather want to figure out how to stoping China to improve. Five - That country keep continue go to other countries setting up their militray bases. Six - That country keep continue sending their Navy Warships and Aircraft Carriers near and threat other countries all year long. So who do you think the most want to control the whole world and want to be number 1

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Рік тому +1

      This is actually painful to read, just format your sentences like a normal human being.

    • @metaphosV
      @metaphosV Рік тому +2

      In China, farmers were given lands post 1949.
      That reset homeless population to ZERO.
      Any migrant worker who came to cities to find work has a piece of land in home village.

    • @suzannesuzanne8947
      @suzannesuzanne8947 Рік тому

      kristoffer3000 act like a civilized person that if you can, and get off your high horse before you fall off it.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 Рік тому +1

      @@kristoffer3000 he probably copy and pasted from a perfectly formatted notepad file

    • @hclau218
      @hclau218 Рік тому +7

      ​@@kristoffer3000Painful but true. Try refuting those points..

  • @jamysmith7891
    @jamysmith7891 Рік тому +15

    Maximizing profit involves deregulation of public security and creating a population of desperation;
    Homeless people drive high prices

  • @who-dn5cl
    @who-dn5cl Рік тому +10

    At 27:00, Will Merrifield made a very valid point. Wall Street and Hedge Funds are not going to solve America housing crisis. I add that another major hindrance is the honesty and integrity of the local politicians,civil servants and law makers have to come together to tackle the housing crisis. If that does not happen, the crisis remains.

  • @panyaboonc5621
    @panyaboonc5621 Рік тому +7

    The money they have spent on wars and maintaining those 700 over military bases all over the world could have provide many homeless people with a comfortable home.

  • @SanoRay
    @SanoRay Рік тому +17

    Very interesting talk show! Thanks, Ms. Hu for having these two guests to provide us their insights on homelessness in the US and China and there differences.

    • @parnamsaini4751
      @parnamsaini4751 Рік тому

      Most welcome...keep watching...it is not going to make any difference

  • @jimmylee1776
    @jimmylee1776 Рік тому +28

    Thanks for this video & interesting discussion about homelessness. It reflects the cultural differences between China & the US as well as the support from the government of each nation to their citizens to prevent homelessness. As stated in the video- a person in China who cannot find a job the the city, the government will provide that person with a train ticket to return to his/her hometown. Once there, that person will have support from families & friends and will not be homeless.
    In the US, there is no support from the government. Additionally, like most European culture- people like to be independent & not rely on support from family or friends, even in times of financial stress. As such there are more homeless people in the US. The US is a capitalist country & making profit is number 1 concern for all enterprises. As such there is little or no affordable housing. The US government needs to provide affordable housing & temporary shelters 27:04 for the homeless. The US government needs to implement a social programs to resolve the issue of homelessness.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 9 місяців тому

      You will need to bring back the communist and socialist parties that once existed in the US before ww2. They fought for things like social security, unemployment insurance, 40hr work week, the right to unionize, welfare for the needy, etc. These govt services all came from the two well-demonized parties

  • @mytube30005
    @mytube30005 Рік тому +11

    13:28 the minimum wage maybe $33,000 per year but the net pay or take home after tax withholding and others, is much less. The wage in China is the same as take home because the employers pay tax, not the employees.

    • @teflerchina.2987
      @teflerchina.2987 Рік тому +1

      So why did I pay tax when working in China? Chinese workers do pay tax, I have seen their pay slips, and it is linked to how much they earn.

  • @tomt1208
    @tomt1208 Рік тому +7

    Homeless is an indurstry now in usa. There are so many organisations making money from this crisis. It is just like military industry.

  • @jhuh1758
    @jhuh1758 Рік тому +5

    In the USA , priority is building more jails and homelessness is just a collateral damage of the US " perfect" system

  • @HuMI317
    @HuMI317 Рік тому +6

    Government who works for the common citizens in a well run country imposed rules to prevent Property Developer to manipulate the market. USA Government is just not interested in the common citizens who don’t have the means to fund their political campaigns

  • @junguo3088
    @junguo3088 Рік тому +2

    I am chinese. I want to say the house price in china actually much higher than US. For the average salary is much lower in china than in US. But why the homeless is much more less in china? Just because chinese are love saving money, they know putting money on house is best choice.

  • @cogniktive1147
    @cogniktive1147 Рік тому +6

    This is such an enlightening episode comparing housing issues. Your collaboration with Wave Media series are a great addition in general to your channel. Thanks BT!!

  • @lisa.e5776
    @lisa.e5776 Рік тому +8

    Goverment of western countries haven't the moral and esperiences of governing big popularity likewise the eastern goverment.
    They criticised and condermed about humanity of eastern but never know their difficulty.
    They developed for thousand of years. Their population high and land little
    They don't colonised and grab land from natives likewise the West.

  • @SM-df9hm
    @SM-df9hm Рік тому +24

    US is too focused on adding to value of real estate properties and cares little about the homelessness.
    The problem is much bigger than homelessness, many more are on the verge of homelessness and fearing to become homeless.
    Chinese authorities are partially focused on eradicating poverty while American authorities, at least partially, are focused on searching for excuses to avoid responsibility.
    Chinese people are focused on justice, solidarity and prosperity while American people are focused on flag showing/drug seeking, selfishness and spending more than they can afford (big PUT or SUV even without money for basic necessities)
    American dreams can only return if the jobs start paying good again but the gap between the rich and poor is huge and the economy is not based on production but money tricks that won't last meaning things will likely get even worse unless people find a way to force the authorities to serve the ordinary people again (or truly for the first time) but there is not much hope for that.

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Рік тому +3

      Very well said

    • @hclau218
      @hclau218 Рік тому

      You are so wrong. The American dream can restart, the day your Govt shut the 800 military bases around the world and stop invading others and starting wars. Those money should be used to fix domestic issues. The ridiculous excuse that the US needs to threaten others or invade them because others "threaten US security" is so farcical, only an American will believe in that fairy tale.

  • @yuenshee4997
    @yuenshee4997 9 місяців тому +1

    If only the US relationship with China could improve by leaps and bounds. The US used to keep blaming China for stealing its technology. If that was so, China could always compensate by assisting the US to eradicate homelessness and upgrade its standard of living. Since, China has helped a lot to improve the economy and living standards of Africa as a whole, helping the US (whose population is only a quarter of China's) will provide a win-win for both nations.

  • @kamustakabymmedianista4712
    @kamustakabymmedianista4712 Рік тому +7

    Its better in China in housing.

  • @chopinmack5418
    @chopinmack5418 Рік тому +4

    Chinese people can usually go back to their own home towns where needed , and obtain supports from their relatives
    and / or Gov't officials of their villages .

    • @bearpolo3618
      @bearpolo3618 11 місяців тому

      In China, there is specific policy for helping homeless people and it's a mandate for government employees to help homeless people when they encounter them.

  • @yananneteoh9818
    @yananneteoh9818 Рік тому +8

    Brilliiant new programme ! This new 1st presentation has amazing content and presenters. The focus and discussions are you spot on and 100% relevant to both countries.
    This is the standard and quality of coop aeration that will bring productive results.
    ❤🇨🇳🇺🇸❤️👌👍☮️👨‍🔧👩‍🎓👼👨‍🔧🤔

  • @bertanelson8062
    @bertanelson8062 Рік тому +6

    Solutions in U$A will have to be local. Even small city gov'ts are corrupt in my experience. People will have to learn to set aside differences, cooperate & work together for common good (not just ME). When that happens the local corruption can be cleaned up or pushed out & people can get to work on creating a society that actually supports life.

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn Рік тому +1

      Politicians need to stop procrastinate and dodge responsbility. Most of US homeless problems has a straighforward fix by providing public shelter, and compulsory rehab program. Violent unstable individuals who are a danger for themselves and the public should have mental facilities to cater to them. But such solution is sensitive and seen as inhumane, so US politicians in many cities not wanting to risk their career, rather do nothing. But letting homeless people rot on the street, OD and keep driven them from one area to another, trapped in a perpetual life of misery, is even more inhumane. Politicians beating around the bush serves no one. Only makes it worse for homeless people and the public well being. Sometimes doing the right and and humane thing demands drastic measures

  • @freeinformation9869
    @freeinformation9869 Рік тому +9

    We have been using, and developing, the decommodified model for 100 years here in Denmark, and it has been a great succes.
    I live in public housing myself and love it. It also gives me enormous freedom. In the system we have set up, I can move out of my flat with 2 months notice, I don’t have find or wait for a new tenant, it is not my responsibility. And because there are so many public housing projects here, I can find a new apartment anywhere across town. If I find a public housing tenant in another city, we can swap apartments, just like that.

  • @pohmoh3590
    @pohmoh3590 Рік тому +4

    Local Immigrant workers are provided accommodation and meals by factories in China.
    Moreover they have family homes in their rural hometown.
    They cannot be defined as homeless 😊

    • @leanlifer
      @leanlifer Рік тому

      If the accommodation standard is raised, then there might be. Sleep in bunk beds and share a room with 3 to 5 adults isn't easy.

  • @Purpleeyesify
    @Purpleeyesify Рік тому +2

    There are lots of international people who travel, work or study in China, some of them also are youtubers, they all try to find homeless people in the cities where they work or travel, but nobody found one. There are homeless in China, but not many.

  • @bluemarlin9110
    @bluemarlin9110 Рік тому +1

    Xiaofeng ma is a great story teller.

  • @RaymondLi604
    @RaymondLi604 Рік тому +6

    11:15 China's Urban Shelter System - temp housing or free train ticket back to hometown ↩️

  • @RaymondLi604
    @RaymondLi604 Рік тому +5

    12:10 China's Hukou system - rural/urban housing registration with allocated land parcels for rural families 🛖

  • @user-dt6iz8hu6h
    @user-dt6iz8hu6h Рік тому +4

    I personally think that the cost of housing is just an appearance, and the essence is a responsibility issue. The biggest problem in the United States is that the government does not start to solve the problem when problems arise, but shirks responsibility. As the video said, drugs, or mental problems are all things to blame . External affairs are also path dependent, and everything is the fault of others. Failure to solve the problem will only procrastinate and cause more and more harm. For instance, the debt of more than 30 trillion dollars is nothing but the result of this procrastination policy.

    • @samliew6610
      @samliew6610 Рік тому

      Big problem with US government (either Democrats or Republican) they spent too much time and money 💰💰💰 on Defence to profit those with interest

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn Рік тому

      Yours is true wisdom right here. From the way I see it most of US homeless problems come down to drugs, alcohol use and addiction, that spiral down to mental illness. It's a straighforward fix by providing public shelter, and compulsory rehab program. Violent unstable individuals who are a danger for themselves and the public should have mental facilities to cater to them. But such solution is sensitive and seen as inhumane, so US politicians in many cities not wanting to risk their career, rather do nothing. But I would ague that letting homeless people rot on the street, OD and keep driven them from one area to another, trapped in a perpetual life of misery, is even more inhumane. Beating around the bush serves no one. Only makes it worse for homeless people and the public well being. Doing the right and and humane thing demands drastic measures

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 11 місяців тому

      @@Trgn Actually only 20% of homeless use drugs. Its the automated employment disqualifiers, too much privatization of land & housing/speculation which increase the cost of living.

  • @freeinformation9869
    @freeinformation9869 Рік тому +1

    Yes, reinventing and evolving public housing in the US, could benefit the general public greatly.

  • @Miancheng
    @Miancheng 11 місяців тому +1

    Another point about China, many companies provide very cheep accommodations or dormitories for their imployees to rent.

  • @Stoneitful
    @Stoneitful Рік тому +2

    They should talk about military veterans. Treated very well in China and no war veterans. US is another completely different story.

  • @suzyq9212
    @suzyq9212 5 місяців тому

    It's not a cost issue. It's a dependency towards a vice that keeps them from establishing a home.

  • @camilaribeiro3020
    @camilaribeiro3020 Рік тому +4

    love this show ❤

  • @IA100KPDT
    @IA100KPDT 10 місяців тому +1

    Singapore has one of the best public housing policy with the 89% owning their own homes. Why not just take a leaf from Singapore's experience? 80% of Singaporeans lived in public housing and there is no social stigma because the houses are well built with great environment and facilities around it. But I guessed it's hard for US to implement as private developer wanna made the most $$$ of each plot of land.

  • @mrtigerchan
    @mrtigerchan Рік тому +2

    Just imagine how many public housing we could build and provide is we shift the military budget to this effort! What a concept huh?

  • @juhantoon6524
    @juhantoon6524 Рік тому +2

    To solve the housing problems faced across the globe, go and learn from the Singapore government.

  • @wnklee6878
    @wnklee6878 Рік тому +7

    Who is suffering more - the rich or the poor?

  • @asianamericanadvice6016
    @asianamericanadvice6016 7 місяців тому +1

    When I see homeless here, where I live, they are addicts and the worst addicts. I live in a US city where you can drive out twenty minutes away and find really cheap rent in the countryside, and jobs too.

  • @khenghoontay5763
    @khenghoontay5763 6 місяців тому

    Incredibly honest panel

  • @LW78321
    @LW78321 Рік тому

    Could learn so much from China's approach to homelessness

  • @gee8883
    @gee8883 11 місяців тому +1

    In China , parenst save alot and give their house and /or buy a new house for their kids before they die. ( married couples live with their parents in the big cities )
    In America , parents cant wait go kick out their kids at 18 and spend all their money before dying .

  • @ARDG89
    @ARDG89 4 місяці тому

    I agree with the first statement that it's a cost issue but we have cost issues because we have a very horrible education system.

  • @anonnoone8500
    @anonnoone8500 Рік тому +3

    There are always good options to solve problems for the common people, but that requires lawmakers and politicians genuinely care for the common people. Sorry to say, the US just doesn't have enough of these, since their positions are largely supported financially by the capitalists whom they have to pay back while on their jobs. They would rather spend the time attacking and smearing other countries to build hate and shift the blames to cover up their incompetence and insincerity.

    • @neilbohrs5990
      @neilbohrs5990 Рік тому

      We had Bernie Sanders, but we didn't elect him. We have no one to blame but ourselves for voting against their own interests. And also blame it on our arrogance of thinking we're always right.

  • @SaintFluffySnow
    @SaintFluffySnow Рік тому +2

    too many places in the West lack affordable housing, so, there's a huge hidden majority (tens of millions) of the population living with older generation (parents (with grown children) moving in with grandparents generations)
    low-income public housing is sparse and old (wait lists are decades long)
    it's bad in Canada
    worse in USA

  • @RoyFJ65
    @RoyFJ65 5 місяців тому

    Its truly a cost and affordability issue, plain and simple.

  • @PointduNord
    @PointduNord Рік тому +1

    The homeless situation in the US is getting worse by the day. The Federal government wastes trillions of dollars funding the military at the expense of taking care of infrastructure and the citizens.

  • @tommyleung3514
    @tommyleung3514 Рік тому +1

    China has housing problem. If we see a problem, we fix it. When America has housing problem, we see no problem and market will adjust itself.

  • @happyalldaylong6212
    @happyalldaylong6212 6 місяців тому

    to be honest, as a native chinese, i don't want xiaofeng prepared his speech draft advanced, talk about the real situation that you flet in China maybe much dependable.

  • @foodparadise5792
    @foodparadise5792 Рік тому +5

    I think the property tax became an extortion is part of the reason. There is no property tax in China....In worst case scenario if you lost all income, no body will kick you out of the home you already own, except probably won't have electricity, internet. For those going to say, you don't really own a home in China, the government does. I think that's true to any country(try not to pay property in the US). In China, many people own ancestral homes, meaning a house passing down from family. The ownership of those type of homes are permanent. Now if you buy a condo or townhouse in a develop city, the ownership will be 70 years, it can be extended easily after 70 years. It very rare case, let say the government needs the location of your house for project, they will convince you to move and give compensation. However, there are many cases people refused to move and at the end the government has sharply increase the compensation.

  • @chrislubs1341
    @chrislubs1341 Рік тому

    Effect of transfer of capital reservoir flow from that enables making useful products to sustaining asset speculation. This encourages the capture of basic needs, such as shelter, health and food, as these rents are an inflexible requirement that can be arbitrarily set to increase demand floor thus inflate economic overhead extraction. The commodification of social benefits for extraction to sell to finance.

  • @davidkoay4132
    @davidkoay4132 Рік тому +2

    Use your power of freedom of speech and tell your President in front of the White House everyday to solve this problem.

  • @hypocritehater1673
    @hypocritehater1673 Рік тому +2

    Taiwanese are super lucky,you have America caring so much more than her people🤪

  • @runzeeducation5621
    @runzeeducation5621 11 місяців тому +1

    The word for rugged individualism in an organism is cancer.

  • @wynetsang
    @wynetsang Рік тому +2

    Suffering is a gift from Christ. Imitation of Christ. This ia the highest cultural tradition if the Western world. Therefore, suffering from homelessness is a cultural right or human right.

  • @colibri1
    @colibri1 9 місяців тому

    The US didn't always have mass homelessness either, and it predates the 2008 financial collapse by over a quarter century, dating to Reagan's 1980s cutting of the public housing budget by 75-80%, part of his overall program of transferring money from social services to the military, prisons, and police, which we now consider normal but which was new at the time. Reagan's rather sudden slashing of housing assistance resulted in hundreds of thousands of people immediately being thrown out of their dwellings and the beginning of the modern period of normalized mass homelessness, something only seen in the US before that during the Great Depression of the 1930s, and that was solved by the serious social programs of the New Deal, something seemingly out of bounds for the politicians (and the public) of the last forty years. Also, more countries than China have little or no homelessness, all of them at least socialist, places like Cuba and Nicaragua. Contrast that with the US, where there seems to be no end in sight to the housing crisis you describe in this talk, and where the public, as also alluded to here, largely believes the homeless themselves are personally at fault for their situation and treats them with great cruelty.

  • @DicksonLoh
    @DicksonLoh Рік тому +1

    Who is Ma Xiaofeng? What kind of content does he produce on bilibili?

  • @weiyeongtan2695
    @weiyeongtan2695 Рік тому

    Is it also because of land ownership, where the cost of land being private is includedd in the overall cost. Land generaĺy appreciated in value in private ownership without governmental control.

  • @waltbroedner4754
    @waltbroedner4754 Рік тому

    The median house price is now 1 Million, but each dollar in 1950 would now be worth $12.62 in other words a 2023 dollar is worth only 8 cents of what of was then. In 1950 the median house cost was $7,354 for a valuation of 135.98 times in 2023. The average salary in 1950 was $3,000 and today it is $74,738, so a house in 1950 cost 2.45 year wages, today a house costs 13.4 years of wages. The 1950 wages in 2023 is equivalent to $37,500 roughly half of the median salary today, salaries have only doubled since then, but the houses are 136 times more expensive.
    And the infrastructure in our country has completely deteriorated due to deferred maintenance by our thousands of tax and fees collecting governments federal, state, counties, and city. So much for the best country in the world.

  • @yohen6782
    @yohen6782 11 місяців тому +1

    Although many people in China complain about the high housing price, the home ownership in China is still super high: 90%.
    Whereas, on the other hand, the home ownership rate in the US is 65.9%.
    Ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate
    I think that is a big issue for the US.

  • @norman_5623
    @norman_5623 11 місяців тому

    The New York Times had an (unusual) good story, "Imagine a renters' utopia. It might look like Vienna. Soaring real estate markets have created a worldwide housing crisis. What can we learn from a city that has largely avoided it?" by Framcesca Mari. They say nice things about the Karl-Marx-Hof.

  • @sankarayavoo7460
    @sankarayavoo7460 Рік тому +1

    US $200 billion to Ukraine. And the people of US living on the streets. Stop messing up the world with your trillion dollar a year military expenditure, and use the money to clean up your country and give a good life to the people. In all wars around the world, there is a hand of US in it.

    • @royharper2003
      @royharper2003 11 місяців тому

      the US spends trillions each year to help its own people, please educate yourself

    • @sankarayavoo7460
      @sankarayavoo7460 11 місяців тому +1

      @@royharper2003 Educate yourself first. Look at the plight of people. Thanks to the youtubers, now all can see streets filled with homeless people living in tents. You're busted. Your lies don't work anymore. Stop destroying countries and spend the money on your poor people.

  • @behchunchuan1359
    @behchunchuan1359 9 місяців тому

    Generally Chinese mentality is different from American
    Having a shelter is most important possession in life.

  • @paulskiye6930
    @paulskiye6930 11 місяців тому

    In China, the family structure prevents most of the homelessness.

  • @janetmalcolm3403
    @janetmalcolm3403 11 місяців тому

    It's too difficult. 🥺😢😭

  • @DuderofDudeness
    @DuderofDudeness Рік тому +5

    The only reason it's not as bad as the U.S. is because China is in an earlier stage of capitalism; it hasn't consumed them as much yet.

    • @HuMI317
      @HuMI317 Рік тому

      They have control mechanisms to stop the Capitalist from sucking the blood of the common citizens which USA doesn’t have; also the politicians depend on the Capitalist to fund their political campaigns; nobody is looking after the common citizens in America 😮

  • @GO-su3lf
    @GO-su3lf 11 місяців тому

    do not compare to others.
    focus more effort into our own self.

  • @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
    @kenho-wr5ul2rh7m 11 місяців тому

    the social approach of wealthiness between china and US are different.
    US: make people rich, the weakness is they dont really care about the poor/poverty because this is capitalism
    China: make less people poor, weakness is sometimes they are against rich people

  • @frankcameratalk
    @frankcameratalk Рік тому

    Probably, the team may look at medical cost, service and availability, too.

  • @chansangwoon5049
    @chansangwoon5049 Рік тому

    Mr Ma report differ so much with China Insight etc accounts of current China affairs. The US homeless issue is kept by the ruling class who use the welfare system. No welfare in China, so all have to work.

    • @vegamoonlight
      @vegamoonlight 11 місяців тому

      China Insight is a CIA-funded channel. Why should people cite that anti-China channel which is using AI-generated videos? Their narratives are all fake.

  • @robertprawendowski2850
    @robertprawendowski2850 11 місяців тому

  • @Iam-me
    @Iam-me 9 місяців тому

    Hong kong

  • @pratik4309
    @pratik4309 11 місяців тому

    Investment on housing should be regulated, otherwise it will become more difficult for middle class to afford one house

  • @teatree6228
    @teatree6228 Рік тому +1

    Not either nation
    Uxa politicians and military industrial comples do not represent americans

  • @Robert-xt1ri
    @Robert-xt1ri 11 місяців тому

    Homeless individual LA Ca... W Hollywood RTD (public trans) has charging outlets at his stops... why (also history residing initially) continue WH instead of More Homeless Friendly local independent jurisdictions as: Glendale, Santa Monica, Pasadena.
    Txx 4 reading

  • @anettemor1730
    @anettemor1730 11 місяців тому

    role of charities have to be understood too. charity concept has inherit conflict of interest. to prosper each charity need MORE homeless and LONGER homelessness.
    Charity can only work as a short tern fix, to identify social ills and hand them over to the state to solve.
    a state, unlike charity, has massive incentive to irradicate homelessness, so people do not burden the state budget with their illnesses, benefits, handouts and crimes.

  • @tanchye1720
    @tanchye1720 Рік тому +2

    Housing in Singapore.
    In 2022, the home ownership rate among residents in Singapore was at 89.3 percent, an increase from the previous year. Singapore has high rates of home ownership, despite being among the world's most expensive property markets.
    Homeless.
    One would be surprise that a chunk of homelessness in Singapore have the home under their name according to a survey.
    Some just choose to sleep outside although there are many social assistances available to them.
    How.
    Basically, in Singapore we have private developers & HDB, the government developer.
    HDB builds ‘more affordable housing’ for general public. These quality housing are very nice, with supporting amenities such as school, supermarket, shops, transport system, playground, etc.
    Singaporean pay their home through their saving through a government scheme call ‘CPF’.
    (Details in ‘Google’)

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn Рік тому

      Thanks to the late PM Lee. China sucess today owe a lot to LKY's work and style of governance, using Singapore as a model to copy after.

  • @marvinfok65
    @marvinfok65 Рік тому

    America is going through an inflation? No, that is greedflation, not inflation.

  • @stephenyang2844
    @stephenyang2844 Рік тому

    Extreme income inequality is the root cause of homelessness.

  • @paulbrooks2087
    @paulbrooks2087 11 місяців тому

    I've been in my car for 8 out 10 years parking lot are full at night

  • @alexchua4050
    @alexchua4050 11 місяців тому

    just take singapore HDB as example and work frm there.

  • @powailai9886
    @powailai9886 11 місяців тому

    homelessness is forever in usa. great yi.

  • @AR-bh3mn
    @AR-bh3mn 9 місяців тому

    Otocratic = Not Homeless
    Freedom = Homeless......
    This is real. DEMOCRACY! 😅

    • @QWERTY-gp8fd
      @QWERTY-gp8fd 7 місяців тому

      meanwhile the 2 million homeless people in china:

  • @garychan4278
    @garychan4278 Рік тому +1

    Capitalism and socialism at 2 extremes

  • @GlobalDrifter1000
    @GlobalDrifter1000 Рік тому

    Will should go save the wales

  • @philliprobertlawman2232
    @philliprobertlawman2232 11 місяців тому

    Greed at its finest!

  • @thevindictive6145
    @thevindictive6145 Рік тому

    Capitalism says that if its not that profitable then dont do it. Cheap housing is not profitable. That all folks, its really not that hard to understand.

  • @amreamer362
    @amreamer362 Рік тому

    Homelessness is a feature (cautionary tale to keep us pigs in line)

  • @catsNcode
    @catsNcode Рік тому

    This is exactly what’s happening in Hawaii

  • @phongy45
    @phongy45 Рік тому

    More of incompetent system and leaders ?

  • @yinchoongng8986
    @yinchoongng8986 11 місяців тому

    Illegal immigration is the problem with America homelessness.