Godox AD600 vs Profoto B10 Plus OCF flash
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Battle of the flashes. The new 500ws Profoto B10 plus versus the 600ws Godox AD600. Which is better? Is the expensive cost of the Profoto flash strobe really worth the difference? Let the battle begin in the comment section lol. In one corner, we have the diehard Profoto users passionately defending their high priced flash because "it's what the professionals use!" See them list every little insignificant detail of their superior equipment which is better than yours in every way. In the other corner, we have the Godox users and lovers, who bought Godox stuff because it's all they could afford. But they quietly churn out amazing work with their cheap plastic flashes that rival the pros. Yes it's not the equipment, but the pro using it. Let the fun begin.
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i bet 60% of people will leave after seeing this intro :D
Agree bro!!
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@@tomaszbejnarowicz 35% more will leave seeing it in 60fps
As a current modern commercial photographer working for adidas, Mc Donalds, Nike, etc. I can confirm that the gear doesn't matter. Your technique and talent matters. Also, clientes don't know shit about brand names hahaha as long as it's big they think they are getting their money worth. I have never received a comment about "hey, you are using Godox equipement, let's do profoto for the next one" NEVER. Amazing video, you have 25 years of experience in hollywood, I'm working at the top of the industry right now and still doesn't matter.
Why you use Godox? if you work for this company you have plenty money to get all Profoto or Broncolor, why struggle with the Godox awful menus?
As a professional photographer who has worked with LinkedIn, Chevron, Nissan, and Stanford Healthcare, I must disagree with you. Is it possible to get a very short flash duration using Godox? The flash duration they advertise often falls short due to trigger latency issues.
@@alexk574 Yeah this guy @mairoarde is full of bologna. He can "confirm" gear doesn't matter? I'd like to see how, I know people who have been using Profoto for 15 years. The products are made so well, and they just work great without any issues whatsoever. I myself use almost all Profoto when it comes to lighting and softboxes etc. Over thousands of dollars. Am I complaining about the price?? No 🤣 because with Profoto's amazing products I make my money right back and then multiply it. I'm curious to know if you asked a professional rally driver if his vehicle matters, or an athlete if their equipment matters, or Navy SEAL if his gear matters?
Also, the clients for brands like adidas, McDonalds, Nike etc. would not be present at a photoshoot. Their marketing/media team would be and anyone who has done photography for those companies (which I'm sure they have) would absolutely call you out on using cheap a** Godox products from Amazon 😂😂😂 You ALMOST pulled off that bull crap story.
@@dreamteamtokyo😂 Got em!
@@dreamteamtokyo did you try continuous flash with a stacked cmos camera (like sony a1 or canon r3 or nikon z9)? Profoto works terrible with those high end cameras because they works terrible at high fps. I mean those cameras take 20 or 30 frames per second and profoto does not catch up well and miss fire a lot. Very disappointed by profoto. Godox works perfect with my a1 (at 30 fps) and never miss any fire. Profoto does not catch up well even at 10 fps.
Have lived pay check to pay check for many parts of my life. Made plenty of poor financial decisions. Definitely appreciate the honest opinion in your vids
Most clients do not even know the brands Godox or Profoto. They merely see a big flash. Big flash = professional. Same with the cameras. People do know the brand names, but generally not the models. As long as it is a big DSLR or mirrorless camera, you are good to go! 😉
The more macho the more impressive!
For us clients or models rarely even mention or care abt the equipment. I may hear that’s a big lens and camera but that’s about it. I just smile and say “we are going to create great images today”. Leverage what you have.
@@WilsonSilverthorne I wonder if they would even notice if you're using a micro 3/4 (or even 1 inch) sensor versus full-frame. I mean, obviously they wouldn't want you using a pocket camera, but what if...
I have been using the AD600 for almost 7 years. I am surprised that the bulb is still working after so many years.
I agree with you. I started the transition to Godox/Flashpoint 2 1/2 years ago, and liked the result so much that I had completely switched both my field kit and my studio over to Godox/Flashpoint in less than 6 months. I had several brands of lights before and was forever having misfires and other problems. In 2 1/2 years I haven't had a single flash failure due to an equipment problem. Operator problem, yes, but not because of the Godox/Flashpoint equipment. I started with the X2Tc transmitter, because of the pass thru hot shoe on top. It let me continue using my old flash transmitter and lights while I tested the Godox communication and the two Godox lights that I had bought. The success with them convinced me that switching was the right thing to do, so within 6 months I had replaced all of my lights. I have never looked back. It took a few months, but I sold and gave away all of my old lights. Goodbye Alien Bees and everything else.
I had a conversation today with another photographer who's dipping his toe into portraits and boudoir. He was asking me how I was able to get such great shadows and what I was using, where I was shooting...all that. I told him I just had some black fabric in the middle of my living room and I was using a standard Alienbees B400 ($250 strobe) and sometimes a soft box. That was it...and he was very surprised. I told him that you need to practice with what you have available to you and get as proficient with it as you can. More expensive gear, although they do sometimes have luxury features, don't take better photos on their own merit. I told him that it was always fun to work with a new model because I never knew how they were going to feel about seeing the "simple setup" in the middle of my tiny apartment living room. But when they saw the images we captured, their whole perspective changed and they got into the shoot a lot more because they were seeing the results vs the equipment load. Bottom line is, if your budget only allows more inexpensive gear, then learn to use that gear to its full potential and then later on, if you choose too, you can get something nicer. But more often than not, you can still create amazing art with simple gear. You'll just have to use your imagination and learn to have fun with what you're doing. I would say that sometimes it definitely shows where you spent your money (lenses for sure make a difference). But if you can do a side by side comparison like you did here, and not really see a huge substantial difference between the two, then why not go the cheaper route? Hell...you can buy 3 or 4 strobes for the price of the one "premium" one and then you open yourself up to all kind of possibilities. Thanks again for always just being yourself! Take care!
I’m very satisfied with my GODOX lighting system. I use the V1, ad200Pro, ad400pro, ad600pro and the QS600. No regrets with any of these.
This is one of the reasons I love your videos. You're not trying to sell anything.
I was all about the brand. Known and expensive brands meant quality for me. I used Photix for some years. Great light but expensive as hell. A few months ago, and based on one of your videos, I got my first GODOX AD200 and loved it. I loved it so much that I got a V1 for my camera. It was a third of the cost of a Canon Flash.
Now I'm saving for a 600
Thank you
I agree with color too, prefer the AD600. Think the Profoto might be just a slightly cooler light, but for my working Kelvin temp, AD600 and AD200 are a much better fit.
I noticed that as well. Much bluer tones. The 600 was much better
I’m a firm believer that quality costs money and you generally get what you pay for but in the case of ProFoto I think their products are extremely overpriced. There is no way the ProFoto light should cost 4x more than the Godox. I could see maybe being 2x the cost for the higher quality. I own 4 Godox AD600’s that I have been using for about 8-10 years professionally. Mine too have traveled all over and mine have been knocked over and crashed to the ground and I still have not broken one yet. They just keep working flawlessly and reliably. I find the batteries to work really well too and I’ve never depleted one even on all day shoots. Light is light and I get great results from the Godox. I would never waste my money on ProFoto gear.
Yep they have not adapted in terms of prices, but they are competing in terms of functionality. On the other hand, the other European company, Broncolor, is not doing anything about it. They are the queens of light consistency, I grant that, but no innovation whatsoever in years. They needed help from Godox to do a half decent remote, and even with Godox help they are unable to release a TTL system. The super-innovative Move 1200 has had no meaningful updates in more than a decade. Cleary European companies are lobbing against Apple and Google, they use to dominate the Cell Phone market but could not out-innovate the Americans. In a few years they will be lobbying against Godox and DJI.
I'm so glad you did this video! I'm not invested in lighting equipment yet, but I want to tinker with it. You've confirmed what I have suspected all along that Profoto is very well made and has an easier UI, but is outrageously expensive! The Snap-on tools of the lighting world! What I didn't know was if the quality of light was better (?). Looking at your comparison, the Godox has a warmer, more natural looking color while the Profoto's colors are cooler and less natural looking. Yes you can tweak it in post and make it any color you want but why add to your work flow?
I've seen professional photographers switch over to Profoto when they finally got the money only to wonder, "Am I missing something?" I think the same mentality that says, "If your camera isn't black, then it's not PRO" or "If you don't shoot Canon or Nikon, then you're not a PRO" also says, "Profoto = PRO, Godox = amateur."
Hello Mr. Markus... If you remove the 'price-point' factor of both units I would probably still lean towards the Godox. Unless there's been some color grading happening.. the Godox 'shots' (to me) has better color saturation with the Profoto leaning towards blueish. As always, your truthful and honest insight's of the photo/video genre is greatly appreciated. Cheers!
If you need color consistency I will suggest the AD600 pro
THANK YOU ! as a newbie to flash and teaching myself, i appreciate your honesty and PROFESSIONAL opinion! It gets overwhelming reading and watching reviews.
My wife and I were both in stitches at the end🤣🤣🤣 I would also rather take the money and… 😂😂😂
Having to have prophoto to be a pro goes against a main points in photography. A pro should be able to work with any gear not just pro cameras and flashes.
Godox has done me fine and it ensures much more money to go to lenses and other gear instead of raising the bills
No one mentions the mount system of Profoto... used it in the studio the other day, and dont like it at all! much prefer bowens system... line up 3 notches, slide in and click. locked on. Profoto, you have to slide the head into a rubber grip sleave, which it tight... its cumbersome..... just my opinion 🤷♂
They say Profoto has better color consistency.
I am not famous
I had a flashpoint fail at 28 degrees I jumped ship to profoto and never looked back
I love profoto’s build quality
Thank you for your frankness, it shows that you speak with sincerity. I still have my Godox 600bm, not the pro version. Thank you for giving your opinion as a great pro the truth in your explanations
Bm is all I have and use
I once used an AD200 Pro in a Broncolor Para 133, worked great! Brand names are overrated, best to look at the pieces and put together something that does exactly what you want that is unique to your situation.
I've seen a lot of your DIY lights in your past videos. It could be interesting if you paired up with a mfr to come up with a product that would meet your quality, usability, and value standards. I am sure that would be a long project, but it could be an interesting journey.
Wow! I didn't know Profoto cost THAT much! Remember when people were saying clients wouldn't take you serious if you showed up with a mirrorless camera?
14:30 - HAHAHA! I'm telling Cara! hehe
Guys, i've been shooting for over 15 yrs now and have used every brand out there. Aside from design there really is NO fifference betwwen these brands. They both would have really minor temperature shift but really nothing that makes one better than the other.
I can afford profoto lights but went with Godox and have been using it for about 4-5 years now. You will 100% not regret going with Godox brand. If you decide to go with Profoto, then you are only paying for the name and nothing more.
how do u justify the profoto packs for 25 grnand or broncolor packs
If I had the time to get this picky over my equipment, I’d never have time to shoot…
I'm all about buy nice or buy twice, but that is not the case with this comparison, even though the price difference would make you think that.
I love my AD600 pro and my 2 AD200's combined with the XPro trigger.
I definitely enjoyed the rant. It was sobering to hear it all from someone who actually field tested it and have real opinions about the performance to price instead of spouting about all the features. Thanks!
Anyhow, I’m gonna go with the Westcott FJ400 backpack kit for my classroom use. Not having to buy multiple remotes for different camera brands was what sold me on the ecosystem and workflow. My students can bring in just about any brand of camera and learn how to use OCF in the classroom studio and anywhere on campus. 😁👍
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I borrowed my friend’s godox light for my look book shoot a year ago because they didn’t have a good budget for the eq. I used my 2400 & 600 profoto acute pack for my main light and two godox lights just for a background. After 1 hour of shooting the godox heated up and started to get super slow. Finally it won’t flash until it cools down. I had to have a 30min break time to fix it and bothered myself to shoot slower and less. it was 6 hour shoot with almost 1500 images taken. Godox has great price, fine quality but that’s why I never use this for my commercial. It’s not built for the industrial use.
I have been a pro photographer for over 40 years and can attest to the quality of GODOX and specifically the AD600 B TTL version. Used it for several magazine shoots the likes of VOGUE, Harper's BAZAAR, ELLE, etc...
I own and use six Godox AD600 that work very well. I set them up in banquet halls a 1/8 power and shoot all day without any battery change.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve rewatched so many of your videos. Thanks Markus.
Dude, your the truth
Profoto is a true example of "Prestige" product pricing. -Not necessarily prestige performance.
Profoto gear is way more reliable and consistent as compared to most Godox. I've been doing photography for 30+ years. The user experience is way better yes. $4000 is nothing for a commercial photographer. I make that in one or two shoots. I have a lot of Godox gear sitting in a closet - never touch it - just sold a bunch of it to some students. I can't show up on a pro shoot for a modelling agency or on contract with a media company with Godox. It's not about being snobby. It's also not about who is the most creative on commercial shoots. It's about speed and consistency. Not only is Godox more prone to misfires, general failure, and variation in power and color temperature it is simply not respected. If you haven't seen this on your Godox gear you don't shoot enough material fast. I actually do get higher end clients because of the gear. The media departments, modelling agencies, and marketing department know what you are shooting with. They feel confident hiring me because I've got reliable gear and backup. Shoots are expensive and time limited. That's what the client wants. We don't have time to d*ck around with half the shots being missed there because the flash didn't fire or results being too bright or dark. We have to deliver the files on-site right away many times. The electrical components and electronics of a B10X or D series are way superior to Godox. I know techs that repair them both. The Godox AD600 is definitely not a Ford Shelby GT - more like a Honda Civic with a home made nitrous kit - lol :) If you do general portraits here and there, have a home studio, or even small weddings Godox is fine. I do beach shoots with the B10X plus, mid day in the summer and it just flies. The Godox is wonky. Push it and you'll see.
Go on lets see your work, upload a link to ur website to back up your words 🤣
@ga po The ONE thing people who come on line to boast about having 30-40 yrs experience, and using ONLY the most expensive equipment on the planet, and getting paid millions of $$$ per hour, is they NEVER have a website or instagram to back up their BS.
You can't even use your real name here on youtube.
More than 30 yrs in the industry and not even ONE image online to show for it, really? 🤣🤣🤣
I bet you are just a 12yr old kid hiding behind he's keyboard at home 😂
The AD600 battery is legendary!! Heavy means more pops!... Godox maybe should release a small one, lighter, less pops for travel.
Legendary as far as being expensive and failing to take a charge
Hey Markus.....real working pros use Profoto for a variety of reasons including....it's the Industry standard. (Bron #2) Secondly- it's the Standard for RENTALS. And then pros don't have to travel w/ their gear- when they can just rent it- and the photo techs to set it up (Familiarity). As for your...."(Profoto) being "a little better in build quality"....try ALOT! And part of that famous Profoto COSTS is/are....LABOR costs in an expensive Mfg. country, material$, shipping, importation fees, etc. Hey, Saabs weren't cheap either. ps: I just ordered a 600 yesterday!
I just measured my AD600 Pro and my Nikon SB900. The AD600 is two aperture steps stronger (8 over 4) which means it produces 4 times the light of the SB900. An AD600 replaces 4 Nikon SB 900. I expected it way more powerful. This would mean that the SP900 has 150 WS.
Well, that supports my opinion about those profoto flashes. Never tryed them myself, and probably never will. I Always said, even if i had money to burn i wont buy those. Way too overpriced, and i´m very happy with my godox flashes.
The “I would rather take my money and ..” cracked me up 😂 is shoot elimchrom both indoor and with old quadra rangers outside but will sell the quadra for a Godox ad400. So tired of the cables and big battery pack and huge box I have to carry around on weddings
I appreciate your through and candid review. I've bough MANY Godox products based on your review and I can honestly say I truly love their lights and glad I invested in them! Thanks :)
Profoto is not the RR: Broncolor is.
Absolutely love my Godox Ad600ws 100%. Who cares about what Pro photographers say lol. 🤦
I appreciate your review! I own both the Profoto and the AD600. To be honest, I bought the Profoto mainly for its "reputation". It's a cool piece of gear, but I haven't noticed a significant difference between the two. On the other hand, my AD600 has been through the wringer-I've even dropped it in a river-and it just keeps going strong. I've used and abused it, and it's still reliable.
One thing that really bothers me about the Profoto is the case for the trigger. Its poor case design scratched up the edges of the trigger, which is frustrating, especially since I take good care of this equipment that never leaves the studio. Based on my experience with both systems, I won’t be spending $4K on a setup again when I can get similar, if not better, performance from a $1K system, now I have not used the Pro II, but I'm sure that it will blow the Profoto out of the water for price and value.
Airlines smashed my pro-fotos. I was happy the rental places had Pro-foto in the city I flew into, because then I didn’t need to learn new equipment to do the job. That’s been the only advantage of Pro-foto over Paul Buff (or Godox) that I’ve experienced.
I love seeing people on youtube being brutally honest! Thanks for the review.
I saw your review on the new Godox flash trigger (Nano, X3, or something like that) and bought one based on that video. it is small, it has a touch screen, and you can use decimals instead of fractions to dial in the power!! I love that part!
Thanks for posting!
Used to own the B10, the modeling lamp was tungsten. That was a nightmare for a mirrorless camera with a display monitoring a 5600K white balance setting. Everything was oompa loompa!
I use Godox all the time. Ad600 pro for Outdoor and Studio and the QT series 600/1200 for studio. I used most of the big brands and they where not better than the Godox stuff. Only brand i would buy would be Broncolor, that stuff is simply amazing. But at least and at the end the ENDRESULT is what counts and i have no issues with Godox to get fast and great results!! Even the wireless system is as easy as you can imagine.
0:58 some Profoto users are like fanatic Apple fanboys/girls. They act like their device is sacred. And has been made by the hand of God almighty himself. Yes, Profoto is excellent premium quality equipment. But bragging isn't neccesary at all.
Profoto is just expensive BS with tech support & Clout. crappy triggers, most people get turned off by the power settings because they don't know what the flash is doing after it resets to 0.0 after tapping to +0.3.
Godox are inexpensive brutes that just get the jobs done, if it breaks, it's replaceable cheaply. Hundreds of cheap modifiers, hundreds more Quality Bowens mounts. client's don't know what you are doing, they just see equipment..
Photographers who boast more on their "Equipment" has very little shooting talent, spends countless hours in Photoshop to fix mistakes.
I have used and own Paul C Buff, Profoto, and Godox. I will take Godox all the way!!! Also the modifiers are cheaper!
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I bought the ad600bm on a black Friday just over 3 years ago for $350 from adorama. Because it's now over 5 years it's been out some say it's an old design but the only down I see is the 6 lb weight. I feel this strobe will be with me for at least 10 years.
I've had mine for at least ten years and still take them with me around the world. Most of the weight is the battery which can be carried separately
i dropped my godox ad600 so many times i'm embarrassed. and even though i have 4, i always drop the same one for some reason. Still works just fine. the plastic on it doesn't align great, but either than that lol it's perfect.
I used Profoto lights for about 10 years as a photo assistant on commercial shoots until Godox came along. I had owned a bunch of Alienbees for most of that time as my personal gear, but the lack of built in batteries was always such a hassle. Bought a handful of AD200s when they were brand new and they're still going strong today as my primary lights.
Customer support and build quality aside, the one advantage Profoto still maintains is that dead simple interface. Godox and other brands need to simplify their lights. It's exhausting having to scroll through multiple screens just so I can disable all the complicated features 90% of us will never use. You're really paying that premium for the brand and support and that's it now that there's so much competition in the space.
Wow! I haven't heard of Alienbees for a long time. Probably since Godox made it big.
AD200's are so nice and easy to use.
@@MileyonDisney Yeah, I'm another one that switched from Paul C Buff to Godox. Though I liked the Buff Lights themselves, it was a problem that they had multiple lines of lights that all all worked a bit differently and weren't consistent with each other. White Lightning, Alien Bees, Einsteins, DigiBees. Individually they are all really good but don't form a cohesive system. The remote system (cyber commander) is also overly complex and slow to adjust. With my Godox's I love how (relatively) cheap the remotes are and how quick and easy they are to use and how similar each flash unit is to the others. I also love how they have so many different sizes of strobes in different shapes and power outputs that all work on the system remote system. It lets you start with something as cheap and simple as a hotshoe flash which is still usable within the system if you add a more powerful light and can even act as the remote. Then if you buy one of the dedicated remotes you can also use that hotshoe off camera. Everything builds up very nicely into a bigger and better system as you can afford more lights.
Your Rant has me cracking up laughing. But I do agree. Why spend 4 times more on something that's basically the same...LOL
Hello
I don't understand why most people consider Profoto as a Rolls Royce, they are not (I own two). The only Rolls Royce in studio (and more expensive than Profoto) is Broncolor, perfection in all details, I don't own a Broncolor because it's way too expensive for me, but I use them from time to time in a renting studio. Some high end pros use even more expensive lighting gear like Briese.
But there are also other solutions, technically better than Profoto less expensive, much better than chinese gear, ilts Elinchrom for me.
As I compare deep umbrellas from Profoto and Elinchrom, it's evident that they come from a same asian factory but the Elinchrom fabric is sturdier and has better reflective performance, sewing is better, even the lock lever is better on the Elinchrom.
As a user I have a problem wit Profoto power scale that is the same 1 to 10 for different strobe sizes, I am not able to assess quickly what goes out of two in size different strobes. Elinchrom has the same absolute setting scale for all their strobe sizes, for example setting 6 on one is twice as powerfull as setting 3 on any other.
I often see in BTS videos famous pros that use more expensive Strobes than Elinchrom but continue using their older Elinchrom modifiers (Annie Leibowitz, Joey L, ...)
Along with the Godox AD200 my other powerhorse for almost every location work has been a Godox Xenergizer 600W portable unit for the last 10 years I guess. It has a recargable battery built in a portable power pack just like some Norman units. It's way older than the AD600 and I got it used from another photographer... it just started delivering color inconsistency a couple of months ago but do you know how many times this thing has paid for itself??? I just lost count, and if I am able to find the flash bulb I will just replace it and I am sure it will work for I don't know how many more years.... and if it doesn't... it doesn't matter! I can buy a more recent Godox flash unit like the AD400 and still get so much value for my money. Godox changed the game for us photographers.
I made the huge mistake to buy a Profoto Umbrella XL and cost me $1,000.00 dlls. recently I bought a identical one for $60 bucks
Markus, you sound like 12:42 I do when I talk about my GH5 to Sony users on client video shoots. I will rant on about the GH5 but Sony users don't want to hear that their Sony's arent perfect in every way.
as a professional photographer, that knows both systems really well *(godox and profoto) , profoto is the real professional system, and godox is the system for professional photographers that cant afford or dont see the value in the profoto.
one of the most key differences is, consistency. profoto simply does not have the same problems on the same scale that godox/flashpoint have. godox/flashpoint batteries fail more (in the pro models), have more misfires (no fire at all, or firing under, or some stops over) without any changes to distance from the strobe from the trigger.
if you can put up with that and sacrifice some 5-10% of your shoot, then Godox is the way to go. if you want consistency , Profoto is the way to go.
i only use Godox in "for fun" shoots with models. all my pro for a living work is about 90% profoto.
godox is not a throwaway brand by any means, but consistency , any pro will tell you , is key.
You are right. After 20 Years making a living with photography godox got me. And may be its a lesson of live....you need less that you want...
With that modifier (reflector) yes you are rev limiting the potential of the caviar that is the profoto, the 600 is a great value but the bulb design does make photos look cartoonish, kinda like the direction of careless hdr editing, so you are getting the potential of the 600 off the bat, like a top of the line ford pickup f150, it is missing the luxury flush look of the profoto, but profoto mod makers either are waiting or don't have the eyes to design the optimal mods for their products for optimal image fidelity, i mean paul c buffs are all great for medium format, profoto isn't there yet for their lights.
I love how brutally honest you are....if I could I would subscribe again and again!!! Such an amazing person!!!
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As someone who uses both Profoto and Godox, I have found in multiple use cases that Godox lights are not consistent with their light output or color consistency. I’ve never had that issue with Profoto lights. While I do agree Godox makes good products, based on my experiences with both brands I think Profoto is a superior product.
Markus thinks on the pictures he tested both on, that those lit by the Godox flashes look better in his opinion color cast-wise. But indeed the Profoto is more consistent with light output (IF) the Godox user don't get off the standard wireless channel. That's where Godox has a problem, when it's used straight out the box with no tweaks to the signal channels it's set to by default. Once you tweak it to a less common channel, it works perfectly and consistently just like the Profoto, i've already done this test, and i did indeed use to have Godox flashes misfiring on me like, like set to a certain power then the next shot the flash would fire at full power despite the settings. Once i tweaked the connectivity and pushed it away from the busy channels, it worked perfectly well. I own both, Profoto in the studio and Godox for outdoors/on locations.
@@costinvaly1 I use to have misfire with my Godox also, but as soon as i changed the channel from 1 to 25, i never had anymore misfire.
Thats why you always need to scan channels and change them. There is always some interference. People need to stop being lazy and start reading the manual lol.
I truly appreciate this video ....my 4 light Profoto D1 Air kit was stolen out of my production truck over a year ago and I was looking at the Profoto B10's as a replacement, but couple days ago just decided to pick up the Godox Ad400 Pro just to give it a test run and was amazing surprised at how color accurate it is. I'm literally gonna put an entire gammet of a Godox kit together for the price of two Profoto B10's and run with it. Also thanks for the info on the non pro Godox vs the Pro....I guess the pro has high speed sycn is the only difference. New subscriber by the way
The non pro godox 600 has high speed sync, it doesn't have ttl or color accuracy mode
Yep, most clients will be equally impressed by the godox vs the profoto if the work is good. Photographers might recognise Profoto. Most clients won't.
And here’s me thinking that my wee Manfroto light was cool. 🤦♀️
I have the Godox AD 600 for 5 years now and usually put it on a lightstand with a big umbrella. It happened 4 times, that the wind hit the Godox very hard and it fell to the ground, but the Godox AD 600 is still working fine till today. Only one time I had to replace the bulb, because it got broken (and a new umbrella). For my needs the power of the Godox V860II, or the AD 200 is usually enough.
Well, are Profotos batterys dead like Godox batterys ? I had Godox and shit batterys 2 so I did sold Godox and will buy never again Godox. What about burst shooting ?
Question now is, do Godox have, or will they soon have an answer to the B10x , a flash and continuous light all in one that is both AC/DC ? ? trying to find a cheap alternative to profoto. thanks in advance
It’s understandable pro photographers will hate you for this and yes, they will. You are lowering the threshold and allowing more talented, but less wealthy individuals into photography. That’s the very last thing they want.
There’s a guy in another channel that raised some valid points. He uses Godox and is satisfied with the quality but almost exclusively in his studio. But when he shoots on location, he would rent the prophotos and Broncolor solely due to the rental availability and the readily available skill set of his hired assistants, all for practical reasons. Do you think that’s the case?
Annie leibovitz uses sometimes very simple cameras such as Canon and she is worlds most famous photographer. So very true. Also More photographers should focus on being creative instead of chasing gear. The big ones are certainly not chasing latest gear
Business wise, Godox makes much more bang for the buck, you can get 4x teams working for the same cost
LOVE THIS DUDE. How have I not found this channel sooner. Great vid!
Glad you enjoy it!
I’m a Godox/Flasgpoint user. The main thing i get from Profoto users is that they don’t get any or barely any miss fires.
Have you experienced any differences?
Never had misfires since I switched to the Xpro flash trigger
The only situation that can be tricky is if using the old triggers X1 and you are very close to the strobe, 1-2 feet.
There were a couple of venues that were heavily packed in the 2.44kHz range. That plagued me with misfires until I got the Xpro II (Adorama exclusive) flash trigger that could scan for clear channels.
What about that the modeling lights....and that the profoto bulb is protected...battery life?
I shot dynalites for a good deal of my career. Before that I had normans and Balcar. I'm happy that you say people hire you for your talent. I worked as a commercial photographer and really hate that so many UA-camrs keep saying its just who you know and the big boys aren't any better. I've worked around a lot of big boys and they are amazing.
Like #1755 happy to see any of your great content. THANK YOU for being you.
I owned a profoto B600 which I paid around 2000. Complete junk. Was returned to profoto 2x to service then I sold it. Now I own ad200’s and the whole system with 4 and all accessories including a glow softbox is less than 2000. Love Godox.
Actually, the major rental shops carry Broncolor and Profoto as toss up systems for Professional use. But in the end 5500K lights are all the SAME!!! Norman, Speedotron, Novatron, Elinchrome, Paul C. Buff Or Godox. And the best and most innovated light modifiers are made by third party companies. Day Light is Day Light and NO client will care how you got the light. Only if their products look GOOD!!!
No one uses the control panel on the flashes, it's all about the remotes ... 70$ vs 400$.
Oh and be prepared to pay through the nose to get your profoto repaired
Hi Markus, i really like your content. Do you have an extra video camera that you would be willing to give away?
I choose gear that inspires me to use it. I like working with aesthetically pleasing tools. I like aesthetically pleasing things in general. For example, I don't eat food that is not presented pleasingly.
Godox is 🐐
As far as i know profoto and broncolor have consistent colors over all shots, where most chinese strobes have small differences in color temperatures across photos. But that is only relevant in professional product photography. But that feature do alien bee einsteins also have. For me as a hobby photographer i prefere a nice price tag.
actually I recall that profoto is also manufacturing in China, aren't they?
Check out Broncolor and their Para 88 and be surprised how expensive it can get
Love my prophoto
First it was alienbees, which were amazing.
At this point, unless the profoto was given to yiu free and even then. I'll still go with the Godox.
Westcott seems to be getting up there and when they do, I'll be just Godox and Wescott maybe in the next 2-3 years.
However, you can't beat $450.
You`re just Buying in to the name. snobbery "meaning you think you`r better than anyone eles.
Markus is right it isn`t the equipment it`s the photographher what makes the picture.
And that TINY KNOB on the ProFoto SUCKS to adjust!!!
Thanks for this honest view. I discovered the same thing myself. I own Godox units and have used Profoto when I rented studio space. They did not bring any quality difference to my photos. Keep the money in your pocket.
I use Godox myself in the UK and the kit has been solid. AD200, AD200 Pro, AD300 Pro, AD600 Pro, AD1200Pro.
But I will say that a fair few go Profoto due to them being avalible in rental houses. If Godox could get in to those it would be huge.
Very helpful Markus.
After the lighting video, consider making a drone comparison.
Plus does profoto have the adapter that connects to power pack that extends the flash a few feet away from body making it lighter for overhead shots? I think not
buy where you go ahead of time and have it shipped to someplace/somwhere you can confirm week before
People who have real money don't like to throw it away without good reason. That's why they have money.
I bought a stencil and a can of paint..Saved 1000's and now im a pro.