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- The Baltimore Ravens play the San Francisco 49ers on Christmas Day in a must-see matchup. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, and Kevin Wildes debate who will come out on top, and if Ravens QB Lamar Jackson can out-duel MVP frontrunner 49ers QB Brock Purdy.
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Genius! So the ravens will stop the run. Who’s gonna stop the pass?
@@Kenny49ERS LAMAR!!! Duh
@@grantviviano4615 touché
Most ‘valuable’ player. Purdy’s cap hit is less than 1M, so of course he’s under less pressure to do as much as many of these qbs being paid 40-50M
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They need to stop talking about MVP every single day
Frfr
It's that time of year
@@su1-tin652they legit talk about mvp in like week 4 😂 it’s annoying
at least they’re funny and entertaining doing it , undisputed, speak, first take they all do the exact same topics with the exact same arguments every day also
I mean at least this year there is a real discussion. Usually there's one guy and maybe a close second.
Not only is Purdy “Mr Irrelevant”, but people forget he’s also coming off of 6 month rehab elbow surgery… and still playing at the highest level in the NFL
In his second year ….
Couldn't throw a ball until June. The disrespect this kid has gotten this season is ridiculous
None of the talking heads or nfl are willing to admit they all missed it with him lol
@GoldTau-qc5be who Purdy? Or Lamar? Or Burrow? Or most qbs?
Purdy is playing with CMC and Samuel. I could throw a screen pass to either one of those guys with a bad shoulder and let them rack up 200 yards of passing offense per game
RESPECT for RAVENS 🐦⬛ 🎉
MVP is a combination of value, numbers, skill, storyline, winning, and eye test.
MVP is literally just 50 writers who don’t play or coach football subjectively voting for a dude. That’s it. I’m a 49ers fan and I’m not going to lose any sleep if Lamar wins it instead of Purdy or CMC. Give me the Lombardi. Winning the Super Bowl or not winning the Super Bowl is all people will remember.
@superduperm1 Purdy shouldn't even be candidate is joke he not most valuable Lamar have over 740 rush yards he Carrying team Purdy trash without Debo
@@breonmitchell2443Purdy won last year without Deebo lol
yeah because it has different rules in the mind of each voter. a lot of times its just the most important player on the best team. which would be purdy. if it was actually the player who is most valuable to his team then yeah it would be lamar.
@@breonmitchell2443 deep analysis
Even the Avengers couldn't help Purdy tonight even though CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk and the offense did their best😂
Ol plug n play controller has glitching. That left stick drift. Purdy and shannahan exposed
lol@@justinscarborough6428
can’t wait to see the purdy for MVP people defend this one
I remember last season the 49ers were down by 10 vs the Raiders. In Purdy's second career start no less, he and the team were able to claw their way out of the hole to force OT and eventually win
10 points down vs the Raiders. Wow, what an accomplishment… Lamar is 19-1 vs the NFC and will be 20-1 come Monday night.
i remember when the 49ers were up against the chiefs 10 points in the super bowl and they did a horribly unsportsmanlike team "photo" style celebration towards the kansas city chiefs fans when they had just scored, and then the chiefs proceeded to come back with the power of karma on their side and absolutely destroy the 49ers for their hubris hahaha, never forget pride comes before the fall
He was down vs Eagles but if you come back too early & dominantly doesn’t count lol 😂 joke. Purdy becomes MVP & SB champ Nick be a fool lol 😂
@@RavensFlock9592Purdy got more playoff wins than Lamar and how long has Lamar been in the league for?
@@edwardbrito4010 49ers wint he super bowl? hahahaha oh man you are soooooo cute! hahahaha
BACK AFTER THE 33-19 SMACK DOWN💜🖤💜 Need the trumpets for Nicki so sickly 🎺🎺
As a Niners fan I do agree that Kyle has some bizarre play calling if he is down in the 4th quarter. He tries to get all tricky instead of sticking with what works. Now, if that were to happen, I hope he just goes big, lets Purdy go through the reads for the big play with the screen option for blitz, and use that to set up big run gains by CMC/Deebo.
Him winning 1 time out of 33 times when down in the 4th is a crazy stat. He's a front running coach and so is the QB
Niners should've won against the Browns. If I remember correctly, Kyle had 1 timeout left and Cleveland used up all theirs to ice the kicker. I think there was at least 6 seconds left for at least run one play to get closer, but Kyle didn't do any of that.
Facts..same if he doesn't have his key players like deebo. He starts calling the game lioe he doesn't know what's going on.
@@RUTHLESSambition5he’s also never had a competent QB who can make the right reads. Purdy last year alone has already almost surpassed Jimmy G in playoff stats. that SF vs Philly blowout shows you everything you need to know. the only reason why SF lost, was bc Purdy went out in the 1st Q
Kyle used to also sit on a lead and try to run out the clock. Not anymore. He pours it on now until the game is so far out of reach the other team can't possibly come back.
Next weeks video title is going to read, "Can Sam Howell throw 25 TDs in one game and steal the MVP from Brock Purdy?"
Can he 😄❓
Then "if stafford gets rams into playoffs can he steal it'
🎯💯💯
He might 👀
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nick sets up his arguments in a way we’re no matter the outcome, he won’t give Brock Purdy credit. No matter how well Purdy plays he will say it’s because of the talent group around him. The only way to prove Nick wrong is for Deebo, CMC, Aiyuk and Kittle to be out of the game and Purdy throws 3tds. It’s ridiculous
The only way Nick will say Brock is MVP is if the 49ers are trailing by two scores late in the 4th quarter and for some reason all the starters had to be ejected from the game. Brock comes back to win against the KC chiefs.😂
Biggest clown in sports broadcasting imo
@@bouds22well he’s a basketball analyst.. what did we expect
I don’t mean to be a repeat of Nick here, but I think the list of QBs Kyle Shanahan has been able to make look like a quality QB has to be considered here. How many times did Chris Broussard try to use the Win % graphic to defend Jimmy G? Matt Ryan’s single greatest season in history came with an offense run by Kyle. Nobody is saying Purdy’s bad, the QB needs to have some skill (i.e. Beathard and Mullens didn’t work out), but let’s be honest here, Purdy would have to not be on the 49ers before we can actually see if he’s an elite MVP caliber player! We saw what happened to everyone else in his system…Purdy would need to prove he’s an exception.
@@bigbeard8457 that’s such bs. With what you just said you have a lot of trash to mediocre qbs to compare Brock to. And NONE of them ever came close to looking this good. Not a single one. The closest would be Jimmy and he NEVER threw outside the numbers. I’ve said it many times the past month or so: it’s week 16 if you don’t want to admit that Brock is the real deal you’re ignorant or just don’t want to admit it. Either way lil homie Brock is proving you and people like you wrong on a weekly basis. I just hope you catch up sooner rather than later to save yourself from eating some crow.
This is the first year where there’s an MVP front runner and the media does everything they can to discredit the guy. I remember when he first entered the top 10 and everyone just scoffed at it and said it was insane he was even considered.
Dude it’s been that way across sports forever actual great players have suffered from it when teams have had a overwhelming roster it’s hard for someone from that team to win mvp lebron a actual all time great lost a mvp to d rose because of this why do you think this guy should be above that? It also helps if when you lose 1 or 2 of the 15 studs on the team you don’t lose 3 straight
it’s hard for someone on this team to get mvp due to the amount of talent they have
Define most valuable?
So what was that again??
Purdy need CMC, Deebo,Kittle to look good😂
Why do ppl think purdy isn't a difference maker? He's very mobile and escapes most of the time.. and he's super accurate on short and long throws.
Just say you don't know football 😅
@liliththerapper he does though, that's his best skill is his ability to move within and out of the pocket. He has elite pocket sense. He ain't running for 100 but he's mobile enough to escape the rush a ton.
Coming from a ravens fan, purdy is wicked good. He plays his part really well, and sticks to his system that has all the right parts. If he was on any other team, he's performing at almost the exact same level. Cant wait to see this game on momday and find out who the mvp really is so these guys can shut up
Bc Jimmy G took this same team to the Super Bowl. Without McCaffery lol
he is but you're high if you think he's more valuable than LJ
Why does no one understand that Purdys numbers would be way up if the niners didn’t take their starters out of multiple games in the fourth quarter there would have been several 70 point games this season
Lamar has sat out multiple 4th quarters. Talk about that, goofy.
Talk about the level of difficulty. One guy has a stacked team on both offense and defense. The other guy does not yet. If Lamar Jackson was white we would be proclaiming him to be the best QB ever.
Throwing 5 picks in one game and saying that he should be mvp?
They still talk about those 3 losses when purdy lost Two of those games because of a concussion and the kicker missed the kick.
Not to mention, the defense played terribly the 3 games, fatigue against teams coming off byes and scheme and personnel not being addressed till after the bye.
If you are playing, it doesn’t matter how injured you are, it’s on you. There are plenty of nfl players starting with injuries rn. No excuses.
Should have won the game earlier & not depend on the kicker to bail you out then. Every team can make an excuse for every loss.
@@getmoney3806Then people should stop trying to penalize Purdy for playing well earlier in all those other games. The idea that Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson are clutch because their kickers make 60 yards FGs at the end of regulation but Purdy isn’t because his kicker missed from 40 is laughable.
@@fortniteburger8747I think we all know that. But they are clearly not the same team when injured
honestly at this point i’m rooting for purdy to win mvp so everyone stops treating it like it’s the most important thing ever
I agree. Brock's three game losing streak will go down in history as more important than the Civil War and the fall of the Roman Empire thanks to Nick.
@@stevenvox6549It’s not that he lost, it’s that he looked horrible.
@@kojirod.dragon3724Brock Purdy leads the NFL in QB rating, yards per attempt, td passes and is 2nd in yardage. He has more yards, a higher completion percentage and more td passes than injury prone choke master Jackson. He has already outplayed Lamar. Brock Purdy is the 49ers MVP and the NFL MVP. 😭 😭 😭 Cry Ravens Cry! 😭 😭 😭
@@ChuckPike And when his weapons weren’t there he looked like a bottom 5 QB. Lamar carries no weapons to the playoffs year after year. Lamar vs Purdy isn’t a comparison.
@kojirod.dragon3724 And Raven fans will keep using that excuse every season for the next 5-8 years.
Purdy has played less then one and a half seasons. It is hard to compare value of players when one has significant more NFL seasons under their belt. If both Lamar and Purdy were rookies this season (or considered unproven) and put up their current statistics. Would lamar be considered a MVP candidate? He wouldn't even be in the discussion. People are putting value on previous seasons and not who has played best this season.
So is it “MVP”? Or player with best stat award. No rookie will be able what Lamar is doing. Carrying a team like ravens. SF made 3 NFC championship with just Jimmy. Stop reaching
you have truly shown everyone that you’re a stat box watcher because if you watch ravens game, lamar is undoubtedly an mvp candidate. he doesn’t have weapons that can even touch every other mvp candidate’s offensive weapons
@@Messigoat1033they made 2 with Jimmy. How? They let him pass it 8 times in a championship game. This is a far more dynamic offense. Statistically the best Kyle has ever had. Including Ryan’s MVP year and RG 3’s best year.
@@Thebob6 you proving my point. Lol they don’t need elite QB. They just need a game manger. Meaning the team is elite without Purdy
@@harleydurianriders4477 Flacco lost his job cuz he was 2-6 that season. 😂 nice try but the facts ain’t facting for you
I can't wait for yall Purdy D-riders to comment on Nick's soon-to-be classic 2 take segment tmr!
Probably gonna hear a bunch of "Oh the balls were tipped! Its not Purdys fault it hung in the air!". Classic 2 tho
As a Ravens fan, I think is losing Mitchell hurts out running game because he added a speed dynamic
Jake Funk szn 🔥🔥🔥
I agree. Equally we were 5-2 without him, I think we can manage. I think baltimore did a good job on adding depth bc of our injury proneness. I saw some speed from hill & Gus carrying the rock well & lamar balling
Justin Hill
Ravens are the best team in the entire league 33-19
Nick is delusional 😂 even if rhe ravens lose this week. The chiefs have basically no shot at the 1 seed still
Ravens lose to the 9ers and Dolphins and Chiefs win their next two... Chiefs have the #1 seed... pretty simple.
@@lakeozarkrei3767Doesn’t matter. Chiefs receivers will ruin their postseason. You don’t magically fix those issues when the games get bigger
@@Los150 That wasn't the question 😅
The Chiefs can get the one seed if they win out with an easier schedule, the Ravens drop games to San Fran and Miami,,,,very difficult games for Baltimore, and Miami drops games to Dallas and Buffalo,,,also very difficult schedule
@peterheckel7149 Chiefs have the head to head tie breaker on Miami and a better conference record then Miami and Ravens as well...
Both are deserving candidates nobody would be “stealing” the MVP. Also am I the only one confused as to why Allen’s 3rd in MVP odds.
Because he leads the league in touchdowns and everyone else is hurt/having a bad year. It’s not that hard to understand
@@oblivionpro69also leads the league in interceptions
any other QB the narrative would be, "why can't that loaded team come together whenever BP has an off game?". He is what 18-4 at this point, and pretty consistently played stellar in most every measurable category outside of running the ball. Those running qb's 20x more likely to get hurt before playoffs even start. I'll take BP
When Purdy runs he’s athletic multi-talented and dynamic on offense. When Lamar runs he’s “these running QBs” like it’s a negative…..
@@craigcomrie3397Brock Purdy missed 3 quarters of play, with an injury to his throwing shoulder. Just stop.
You'll take BP over Lamar? Lmao... tell me you don't know anything about football without saying you don't know anything about football.
Josh Allen at 3rd MVP odds is INSANE 😂
If we want to talk value to a team, costing under a million a year in a salary cap league certainly helps. Thats a Nick Bosa, Mooney Ward and more difference between them.
Shanahan is now 1-34 in games where his team is down double digit going into the 4th
Nobody was talking Lamar for MVP until last week but his numbers don't show it. Even if Brock beats the ravens with 300 pass yards 3 touchdowns they gonna say how bout Mathew Stafford. Lmao. It's conical.. The media will pick and choose a different person each week to go against Brock. If he was a top 5 pick he would easy win the MVP
Make no mistake, if Purdy has those stats in this game and they beat the Ravens, he will be MVP. I also think it goes the same way for Lamar and the Ravens.
Hilarious. You’re delusional.
Of important note is that Purdy has those better passing stats with 30 fewer passing attempts. Essentially a full game's worth of throws.
Purdy is not a dual threat either so there’s that..
@@RavensFlock9592Purdy has 2 Tds rush so 31 TDs takes both into account the yds are even Lamar has 750 rush & 3100 pass. Purdy laps your boy with 700 pass on same attempts or 1 game less 😂
To be fair 49ers are 32nd in attempts and ravens are 31st in attempts
@@RavensFlock9592who cares? Did people say that about Manning or Montana or Brady?
Jalen Hurts is a duel threat and the 49ers destroyed the eagles lol.
@@RavensFlock9592you’re on everyone’s comments 💀
Lamar Jackson is the MVP to anyone that loves football and watches games. The man is a gamer. He is a winner. No one has done more with less.
Brock Purdy leads the NFL in QB rating, yards per attempt, td passes and is 2nd in yardage. He has more yards, a higher completion percentage and more td passes than injury prone choke master Jackson. He has already outplayed Lamar. Brock Purdy is the 49ers MVP and the NFL MVP. 😭 😭 😭 Cry Ravens Cry! 😭 😭 😭
@@ChuckPike and after purdy throwing 4ints and no TDs, Lamar is now the front runner for MVP 🤷🏿♂️
Brock is a play-maker and is the correct operative term to define this phenomenon. He is never given credit for other intangibles, like his proven 6th sense, escapability in the pocket, precision mid- to long-range passing, uncanny quick decision-making, his natural leadership and his ability to read defenses thrown at him-all this for a kid who has played only 21 games!!!!
exactly. He is so good at reading the correct play quickly he has very few long developing scramble hero plays.
That is so true, I agree %100 any defense that is thrown at him he studies, he learns, and eventually overcomes the factors of he’s opponent. Kinda reminds me of an anime in DBZ or DBS Goku! Lol
Yup, A Hero!
Brock Purdy suckoff section I guess
Anddddddddd he’s benched 😂
Nick Wright, you were warned about your lack of respect for Lamar Jackson. You will be humbled.
Brock being so cheap permits the 49ers to have that cast around him. Thats what makes him VALUBEBLE also. If they went out and tried to sign a Josh Allen, they would have to give up 1 or 2 great players. Also, CMC benefits from Purdy being so good. Purdy also opens up the defense
He definitely opened them up 😂
@@christopherhaynes8101 he sure did. Better keep my mouth shut.
54 for 88 and 61% pass-completion % ~~ For this rating on Brock and 49ers 3-game skid two months ago, in Brock’s worst games and only losses, he still averaged 61% passing at 54 of 88 attempts. A lot of QBs would love to have Brock’s worst stat lines. In all 11 victories, Brock has 49ers averaging over 30+ Pts/game, and he is averaging 28 per-game including the losses. Pardon the pun, but Purdue is not only smoking, but on fire! Good luck, Ravens, Bills, Dallas and Rams! Good freakin luck unseating this juggernaut!
That Shanahan number of losses being behind in the 4th quarter is skewed because of Jimmy G now c'mon 😂 Faithful are well aware of Jimmy G blunders in the 4th quarter.
9rs always get "deer in headlight" when the everything is on the line but brilliant when not = not a SB team.
As a 49er fan, Brou made a good point about our run D having trouble stopping Baltimore’s run game since we’re going to be without Armstead and Hargrave most likely. That being said, I trust Brock and the crew to keep drives alive and not letting Baltimore have too much possession. My prediction is 27-23 9ers.
My bad, Hargrave is at least playin
Time of possession is something the ravens do best that involves running the ball something they are ranked 1st in with over 320 yards more than the second best team being the lions than the niners 3rd
The argument Nick makes for "valuable" applies to every year from 2010 - 2021 when Aaron Rodgers was far and away the most VALUABLE player in the league and he never made this argument for Rodgers.
But Rogers also won multiple MVPs so that checks out.
2010,2012,2013,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019 Rodgers was no near to be most VALUABLE player in the league, Manning, Brady, Mahomes & Lamar were, are and will be always more VALUABLE for their teams than Rodgers. Manning in 4 years with Broncos did what Rodgers did in 12 years with Suckers, Brady in that same decade won 3 SB and if you take Mahomes and Lamar out of their teams, Chiefs & Ravens would be at bottom of their divisions. You take out Rodgers from Suckers, they still fight for playoff and with little bit luck can reach divisional round, something what was most of the time Rodger's peak of the season. You Rodgers fan boys are really worse than Bronsexuals. He's Favre great, not Manning, Brady, Montana or Mahomes great. And Rodgers was product of one of the worst divisions through one decade.
Nick acting like pat mahomes is Obi-Wan being your only hope. "Help me Obi-Pat Mahomi, you're my only hope."
When was Mahomes mentioned? This is the second video where people are complaining about Nick talking about Mahomes when he didn't even mention him, and nobody else did either.
@ultravenia yeah, you're right. But saying The Chiefs or Pat Mahomes is subjectively interchangeable, from a certain point of view.
The 3 niners losses keep getting brought up on every sports show as though it should be an indictment on Purdy. Let me ask this. If Purdy had lost without any of his key players missing, would that somehow reflect better on him? Or was the expectation that if his team was healthy that he should go undefeated throughout the season? That seems unrealistic to me. The reality is that every other team in the league has lost at least 3 games, just like the niners. The difference is that it can be argued the niners/purdy lost *because* they were missing key players. If none of the niners players were missing in those games and they still lost, would people constantly use it as some point against Purdy, as though any other QB in the league hasn't lost games?
Name a couple shows. Every show on Fox and ESPN are big Purdy and 9er stans. The stark majority want Purdy, vocally so too
Right. Its nonsense. Nick likes to say "without the avengers," but the key is Trent Williams being out. Not only does every QB have some bad games, but its quite common for even great QBs to struggle when they have injuries to the O-line, especially the key players. I think the fact CMC also didnt have great games further supports this.
@@GP-qz6kkNot just that, but great quarterbacks have off games even when nothing is missing. If you cherry picked the 3 worst games of just about any QB in any season it will look every bit as bad as Purdy this year, regardless of which weapons may or may not have been missing.
That’s the difference between Lamar and Purdy. Lamar can continue to win when his weapons go down and Purdy can’t.
Not to mention Purdy has over 400 offense yards in the last game, he literally out rushed CMC but no blame goes CMCs way even though they wanna claim he's more MVP worthy
First it was Philly, then it was Dallas, then it was the Jags, then it was the Rams, and so on and so on - haters
Since Lamar entered the league he has always been the mvp because he has always been the most important player to a team since he came into the league. Last yr when mahomes won it Lamar was way more important to Baltimore than mahomes to chiefs. But he didn’t win it cause his stats are not that good. Stats matter. Apparently with Purdy it doesn’t lol. By this logic just give Lamar the mvp every year regardless of his stats cause he literally does everything for baltimore
I've been saying exactly this
Lamar is 1-3 in the postseason with scores of 17, 12, 20, and 3. His QB ratings were 78.8, 63.2, 74.8 and 61.5 in those games. In the 2022 postseason, Lamar was hurt and Tyler Huntley played. His team scored 17, lost to the Bengals, and Tyler Huntley had a 92.0 QB rating. For some reason, you guys have allowed yourselves to believe that the stats don't matter when the Ravens win 11-13 games in the regular season, and that stats also don't matter when the Ravens lose EVERY game in the postseason. It is a bizarre take that I will never understand.
@@grantviviano4615Lamar isn’t surrounded by all pro reciver and WR like Purdy, Mahommes,,Josh Allen or joe borrow.This year they got some better weapons.
As a Ravens and Lamar fan, I’m in agreement. I want the ravens to curb stomp the 9ers with a good statistical performance by Lamar. If only Lamar had the best o-line, the best running back, and two outstanding veteran receivers, we would know who is better. 🤷🏽♂️
@@grantviviano4615agreed, you don’t understand.
How many of those games, going into the fourth quarter trailing by 3 or more, were the 49ers without their starting quarterback in the 4th quarter?
i think the purdy situation is a great example of how fantasy has effected sports media. we value raw numbers so highly now because your average fan understands performance through these metrics, in settings like fantasy and betting. people often forget these numbers are REPRESENTATIONS of events that happened in game, meaning the game is a more direct source of information. this is why every former player and coach comes on here and says yeah purdys been playing really well but obviously, when you watch the game, it’s clear his role isn’t as big as it’s being made out to be.
Great take nick
Yes, the niners defense been struggled against the rush and the Ravens have a mobile qb. However, the niners now have a qb who can put up points and outscored their opponent.
Not against high level defenses
Say what u want. But Brock already did a tom Brady. The browns had him with so they say was the best defense. And he led the niners back up the field in the rain with less than two minutes left almost 80 yards. And then dang kicker missed the field goal for the win. And all the players was injured on that drive. And then next two games he put up good numbers too, with a bunch of injured players and playing with a concussion. And he's super smart. Barely throws any interceptions. I take him all day over anyone.
@@masonparker458442-10 and 42-19 against the Cowboys and Eagles says otherwise, clown.
Lmfao you're right about the points. He singlehandedly gave the ravens multiple scores and short fields ☠️☠️☠️
As a Niner fan. I can say we don’t fear the chiefs or any other team.
Oh you better… 49ass are going down 😂
You will fear the Ravens after your sound defeat.
@@RavensFlock9592 yeah right like the baby raven have a chance. 49er will fix that.
I would fix those words before it’s too late bud.😊
@@diegohorton869 Its too late bud...
What about MVP and Comeback Player of the Year? Everybody forget that Brock had an injury in his trowing elbow, in some cases, career ending injury. Then Brock heal that in 6 months and played in week 1 like nothing happened.
Comeback Player of the Year would go to Lamar. He missed 6 games & the Ravens lost every one including a playoff game. He comes back healthy, are the #1 seed in the AFC & 2nd in the MVP race
Purdy has 9 more touchdowns = “it’s close enough” 😂
they were also including rushing TD's and rushing yards! what a joke. since when do compare rushing yards for QB's? the separation is actually 12 passing TD's and 50 passing yards
5 bricks later , Purdy is benched 😂
This is the same crew that picked Dallas last week
They’re clueless
Did y’all put your mortgage on Buffalo then? If so…congrats!
@@crs092 You sound like a Cowboy fan lmao
@@rodman7224 clown
@@giffondhall9214King of clowns lmao
Go Ravens!
To me the biggest question about who wins is the SF interior defensive line. Hargrave and Armstead are both hurt and the tackle job is basically being filled by guys off the street. If they can keep front contain, then the 49ers walk away with it. If Lamar is allowed to regularly step forward through the pocket and run up the middle, then the Ravens will win.
I'm picking Niners to win this matchup and Lamar will underperform. Purdy will shine.
Do you feel safe picking the overwhelming favorite team given how this season has gone?
@@jdailey01230 I just like the Niners. If Niners are legit contenders like everyone thinks they are, they should be able to beat the Ravens.
MVP = Must Vote Purdy
Nice!
4 INTS 😅
@@Himothy704 Lamar took it.
Purdy doesn't look like an MVP😂😂
4 INT...😂😂😂
wasn't it 5? lol
@@promotechs2540one was darnold
Nick has had some disrespectful takes on Purdy in the past, but I felt like he was really fair in this segment.
“In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth”
Purdy Balls
The Ravens will sell out to stop McCaffrey (because they have to) and Purdy will eat their lunch with his receivers.
Purdy exposure coming this weekend
@@htdubski23nah
Ravens pass defense is their strength especially with Hamilton playing.
@@htdubski23 Fair enough. We'll see. Just my guess at what will happen.
@@anthonyanderson9303 We shall see. Should be fun.
Call thay boy Purdy PNP aka Plug n Play
Let’s talk about value and the £860k contract of Purdy that allows all those stars to be around him
Nick, is there any chance you could talk at the same time while the Wildes and Brou are talking? It would be really helpful to the listeners.
Could NOT?
well the game was played lastnight & Nicks take is now catagory 3 Cartoonishly Wrong😂😭
Very wrong
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They never give 49ers any credit .We good keep hater Go Niners
The 49ers roster with a backup quarterback is honestly a tough team to beat. The fact that they have Purdy, and he’s making the type of money he is, is insane.
The 49ers are undefeated over the last two seasons when both Brock Purdy and Trent Williams are healthy and in the lineup. 31-14, 49ers over Ravens on Monday night.
You chatting if you think you dropping 30 on the Ravens. 20-17 Baltimore
@@jahairagiron04 I'm trying to be nice. The 49ers will probably drop 42 on them, like the Cowboys and Eagles.
@@ChuckPike I don't know why they keep doing this.First it was Dallas,then jaguars, the eagles and now Baltimore. They're running outa teams 😂😂
@@TheGoldenDictatoronly thing I'll say to that is the ravens gotta better defense than all those teams. The one defense they've played comparable to the ravens is the browns and we saw how that went.
@@ChuckPikeravens d ain't the cowboys or eagles.
As much as I may dislike (some of) their personalities, there is something to be said about how intelligently and respectfully these men debate each other and how flawlessly Wildes maintains the flow of the debate. My guess for the score of the Ravens-49ers game will be 38-31 49ers.
Give Purdy's numbers to Lamar, and he would be a -2500 favorite, and it wouldn't even be a conversation. The media is DESPERATE for a "flashy" player to win MVP.
Purdy's numbers are head and shoulders above Lamar.
I've been a Niners fan for a long time, and I love Brock Purdy, but Nicks argument about Lamar Jackson's value is solid. I won't be hurt if he gets the MVP over Purdy, and Purdy not getting the award isn't disrespectful.
People are currently debating whether Brock Purdy is the best offensive player on his team...some people even think that the offense runs through CMac...there is no debate as as far as Lamar and the Ravens go...
Lamar is definitely the most value on his team because he runs. Purdy is the most value on his team because 3 other receivers need him. And those three receivers also free up CMC. And purdy is playing the best by far at qb in the NFL this year. There’s your answer!
You have just solidified the argument on which team is better. Multiple players on 49ers vying for MVP vs one listed on Ravens. Thank you for cementing most fans belief that MVP will be crowned on a 49er (CMC, Brock, Trent Williams)!
@@kittykat334 he’s the mvp on Bmore, but not in the league. He will be mvp every year because he will always be a runner. He is not play qb better than Purdy, sorry!
@@dwil204 but the fact that people are debating that...I wouldn't be surprised if CMac gets an (or some) MVP vote(s) that someone would regular give to Purdy...if that doesn't happen then Purdy maybe in the clear...but the vote doesn't always go to the best player...it's still politics...
Have to agree on the overall Lamar point.
Everyone in the conversation has a good/ great defense.
But Baltimore is only one who would say doesn’t have any great players on the offensive side outside of losing andrews in week 11.
No one seriously believes Brock Purdy is a top 5 QB.
I don’t understand the Shanahan stat. Jimmy g has like 10 game winning drives in sf so how does that make sense 😂
Mathematical gymnastics.
Lamar being in the mvp conversation is hilarious
Well he's the QB of a team that's 11-3... is it that hilarious?
@@jdailey01230Yea... look at Lamars QUARTERBACK stats...🤢
@@lakeozarkrei3767it’s not about the stats. If you actually watch a ravens game for once you would see how valuable Lamar is. He’s gone 4-0 despite losing his top target mark Andrews in week 11
@TwoineJr “It’s not about the stats”, no that’s just wrong, it’s absolutely about the stats. Like it or not that’s how people vote, if we change that now you destroy the precedent set by the history of mvp voting
@TwoineJr 🤦♂️😅Ravens fans are hilarious! They were just telling us A few months ago Andrew's wasn't even that good a TE...
I like how Nick thinks that a ton of people would rather cheer for the Chiefs than cheer for the Niners. And I don’t even think they can beat the Niners. If I had to pick one team that can actually beat them, it’d be the Rams.
I would agree except Kyle owns McVay. I think it actually is the Ravens because the 49ers have struggled against mobile QBs, and the Ravens are one of the few teams whose LBs can actually slow down Kittle and CMC.
I think the Rams are a good pick, but honestly so are the Ravens. The niners have struggled against AFC North defenses. While I think the 49ers are a better overall team than the Ravens, I think the Ravens match up against them well.
The 49ers defense is NOT stopping Lamar…. Sorry
EXTREMELY RARE W FOR NICK AT THE END THERE
No lamar can’t leapfrog Brock for MVP. All year long he hasn’t been in the conversation, but now that daks out all the sudden lamar is popular. First it was hurts, then it was Dak, now it’s lamar. Truth is, the media doesn’t want Brock purdy to win. They hate late round qb success. They called Brady a game manager until he won a ring with Tampa. The league wants to push the narrative that you need a top 5 draft pick at qb otherwise you can’t win. But if you remember 2000’s football, plenty of late round qbs had successful careers and went to superbowls. The media isn’t stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.
Lamar was the leader for mvp at the half way point of the season after Seahawks blowout just check the Vegas odds after week 8 I believe. It’s not out of nowhere
@@kougawd7978 no it is still out of nowhere, cause he hasn’t seriously been discussed as the candidate since week 8, that’s 7 weeks where the media didn’t talk about him being in contention, plus week 8 mvp odds mean nothing. That’s way to early for the ranking to be meaningful. the conversation was on hurts and then Dak. And then, after beating the jags and throwing 1 touchdown and 1 pick, suddenly he’s all the way back in contention against purdy? He hasn’t been in the conversation for weeks and he didn’t even have an impressive game to justify putting him back. The media is artificially pushing lamar up because they don’t want purdy to win.
This how I know you don't keep up at all. Lamar was in it all along, we was just always around 4-5 in the race, dak, Purdy, Tua, hurts we're all in front of him so nobody was talking about him because those 4 other QBs were outshining him. Since then, Tua has lost to the titans and looked horrible without hill and fell back, dak was the front runner but looked horrible against Buffalo so he fell back, hurts has lost 3 straight games so he fell back so purdy became #1 and who was next In line behind those guys?? Lamar. While the others in front of him fell off, the ravens won 4 straight and lamar played well in those 4 games. You talking as if lamar wasn't even in the conversation. He was. He just wasn't getting talked about. Ravens never get talked about. Only reason they getting discussed now is because they facing the niners. They talk more about the 9-5 chiefs than the 11-3 ravens
@@Rod904 I HAVE kept up. Nice try though. When I said he hasn’t been in the conversation, I don’t mean he literally didn’t have any odds, but that hes not a serious candidate. “Technically” mahomes was in the running but everyone knows he never was really going to win. When people say serious candidate, your talking about the top 2-3 guys. Which can fluctuate, but lamar being 4-5 means he wasn’t talked about in the media when they brought up mvp candidates. It was always purdy, another qb, mcCaffery and tyreek. His name wasn’t mentioned despite having odds. Also just because all the other leading qbs slipped and fell doesn’t mean that lamar is deserving. Its clear desperation when lamar Jackson who has 17 touchdown passes, is legitimately being called an mvp candidate who can leapfrog the leading one, who has 29 touchdown passes, and is number 1 in most qb statistics. Your being intentionally disingenuous when you talk like this.
@shsltrash820 well you can bring up stats all you want. Lamar could have 0 TDs......guess what?? He's 2nd in MVP race 🤷🏿♂️ so apparently it's not all about the numbers because numbers don't tell the whole story. How did purdy look without deebo and trent?? 3 straight losses. How do lamar look with his best weapon mark andrews out for the year?? 4 straight wins so you can argue numbers all you want but it won't change the fact that lamar is 2nd in the race regardless 🤷🏿♂️ and if the ravens beat the niners and lamar out plays purdy then all of a sudden he's the front runner with 17 TDs 🤷🏿♂️ don't blame me I'm not a voter
Yeah Lamar is the definition of a MVP this year!!!
As soon as Nick endorsed the 49ers it was over.
I love this show
A large reason why Shanahan has problems coming from behind in the 4th quarter is a serious lack of urgency when the Niners are behind. Shanahan tends to limit the number of possessions and because of that they tend to wear the Defense down. Its a major problem.
Purdys salary makes him valuable in that the 49ers can have all the other great players around him while the Ravens are paying $50M
Man forget that mvp 49ers and purdy wants that super bowl trophy and the super bowl mvp💯
Are there football fans that hate the Niners? I'm sure there must be some but I've never heard that expressed. They've been lauded for their Montana/Young days and they haven't won it all since then. I think the vast majority of fans would say "Good for them." ESPECIALLY with Mr. Irrelevant steering the ship.
Did you forget how many NFC championship games and/or SBs the 49ers have been to since Young? More than your team. And your point is what?
@@kittykat334 My team is the Patriots. Want to rephrase your question?
Lamar should not even be in the top 5 for MVP. It’s insane that he’s number 2
They talk like no other qb has any loses. Ohh Purdy lost those 3 games. Like an the other qbs didn't lose at least that many. Only Brock has his losses count against him.
Nick, stop saying im not disrespecting brock. All you have been doing all year long disrespect this talented Kid
Yes, So if you want to bring the topic about contracts as a clause to their storyline not to disregard Lamar Jackson because I do also think he’s a great quarterback as well and im a 49er Fan just to mention; but Purdy also has a similar factor in that scenario. He’s on a rookie contract playing at an MVP level caliber while still getting paid what an average rookie Quarterback does. Im with Nick on this one. I generally think they both have similar background stories that are great they are both magnificent Players(QB) and it all comes down to this game showdown to see which quarterback can prevail their team to victory! All im saying if there’s anything that needs to be said or done for the MVP candidate. This is the game that decides it once and for all in my opinion.
Those stats head to head are funny. Not even close!
Nick wrong has the worst takes consistently on this show.
Problem with Nicks theory is that you ALWAYS have to respect the run with CMC back there. A simple checkdown or handoff can turn into a 50 yard TD.
That trailing in the 4th quarter thing is a flawed stat. 95% of that isn’t THIS team. That 1 loss with all the starters Nick is talking about was CMC’s first game. Lol he was on the team 2 days.
I don’t want Lamar to win MVP of the league. I want him to win MVP of the Super Bowl.
Wright get over Purdy. Look at the tape. There are running QBs like Lamar and Jalen and there are passing QBs like Montana and Brady. Brock is a passing QB stop running him down because he runs less. Like Brady and Montana he processes faster than running QBs because they don’t jump to their legs for a solution because they can’t see a pass. Get over yourself.
If San Fran was a mostly running team like Baltimore cmac would be mvp. But Purdy is balling and is feeding everybody while having best qb stats. He’s the mvp
Purdy is garbage 🗑
Save this clip and play it back on Tuesday and put the camera on brou
Yes
Nick has NOT been calling out shanahan for not being able to come back late. He's been blaming Jimmy G and Purdy.
Because they've just recently been great on offense. When Kyle first started the defense was always better
That's why we have offensive player of the year, for those who go off stats alone