WHAT?! Nikon is a CINEMA CAMERA Company Now? | The PetaPixel Podcast
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Last week, Nikon made the surprise announcement that it had acquired RED Cinema, one of the most well-known American cinema camera companies. In an instant, Nikon went from an often-ignored player in filmmaking to a top-tier competitor in the space up against the likes of Arri and Sony. What does this mean for the camera industry going forward? Well, a heck of a lot, and Chris, Jordan, and Jaron break it down as well as speculate on how they think Nikon will handle its new crown jewel over the next few years.
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In This Episode:
08:54 - Why Kate Middleton's Photoshop fail is important: petapixel.com/2024/03/11/has-...
16:50 - Canon is 50% of the way through negotiations to bring third-party optics to RF mount: petapixel.com/2024/03/06/cano...
21:35 - Canon wants to achieve "overwhelming number one share" of mirrorless market by 2026: petapixel.com/2024/03/11/cano...
27:10 - Fujifilm doubled manufacturing capacity for the X100VI, but it still wasn't enough: petapixel.com/2024/03/06/fuji...
29:14 - Is it possible for any camera brand to replicate this level of popularity?
36:06 - Nikon Acquires RED in Massive Shakeup of Cinema Camera Market: petapixel.com/2024/03/07/niko...
50:52 - What have you been up to?
53:13 - Tech Support
1:17:46 - Never read the comments - Наука та технологія
Plot twist: The elusive next guest is actually Kate Middleton discussing her favourite PS editing hacks.
Spoiler, it involves generative Ai
Red Z redemption?
Red Zee Redemption??
@@alhOOO2O yeah I realise it doesn't translate well into American English
@@TomMinchington As an English English I loved the joke, I was just riffing off it for the Americans in the audience 🤣
I tried to Pet a Pixel and it bit me😮
It was not screen trained apparently.
@@ronmurray7349 most likely
That outburst of Chris was one of the funniest moments I’ve heard in this podcast series.
Keep shooting the way you want Chris, you’re doing great!!!
The AMD comeback with Ryzen in 2017 could be compared to what Nikon did here.
32:35 I recently talked to an OM rep about a Pen F mark ii and they seemed to be confused. Every Olympus shooter i’ve ever met has mentioned they want a a new Pen F camera.
If a new Pen F had phase detect focus and prioritized JPEG shooting with enhanced color and film simulation adjusts it would be a great every day carry camera. The M43 system already has compact lenses like the 17mm 1.8, 20mm 1.7, 9mm 1.7
🤡
The weird part is they do still sell PEN cameras within Japan at least. The latest E-P7 is contrast focus and has no EVF but it does have a really nice design and 5-axis IBIS for some reason. No film simulations by name, instead it has "ART" color filters. Starting at $600~, if I was on M43, I'd seriously consider one as a casual second camera.
@@BlendyStick The Pen F is where Olympus didn’t skimp out on most of the specs. The Pen F easily be an OM-5 in a Pen F body with film simulations. I would buy them all 💵💵💵
The Sigma 14mm f/1.4 is just the worst salt in the wound as a Canon owner myself. They haven't released any fast, wide primes, and then Sigma goes out and makes the best astrophotography lens in a generation, but not for RF.
So funny folks talking the demise and folding up of Nikon few years ago. They're doing fine and it looks like they'll be that way for quite some time. Love their new cameras.
A few years ago they were ready to die. People saying as much were correct to project as much. That Nikon made a recovery is really irrelevant. At the time we commented on what we saw. Glad to see they turned it around.
@@davidgfisher ah, the power of hindsight.
This gets exhausting. Funny how some of these camera You Tube channels that talk about cameras and what’s good and bad for a living but don’t really do photography for a living but yet people will listen to their recommendations. The funniest part was Talking about Nikon on the verge of going under when aren’t they here because their previous company did close shop. Not a Nikon fan boy but get tired of the complaints about Canon, Sony , Nikon and what they should or didn’t do when those companies need to listen to the end user not those who use the camera for a week but somehow claim to be experts with every brand.
@@POVwithRCNot really, they confused a temporary negative cash flow with financial difficulty. Nikon did some restructuring and expected to be in the red for a bit. That isn't the same as nearly going out of business.
(I see what you did there😁)@@praetorian65
I’d absolutely love a new PEN camera, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. As long as they don’t half-ass the design and features it’d sell just fine. USB-C, latest AF, a couple other things and it’d be great.
Maybe bring back the PEN Mini or Lite lines as a fixed lens camera.
Yeah my E-M5II with 20mm/1.7 is not large, but it's also not actually small. I'd definitely consider upgrading to a smaller body.
What Red & Nikon boiles down to are that Nikon now has cinema cameras in their lineup, as Sony and Canon have with Burano, Venice, C300, C500 and more.
AND now with the internal RAW recording patent. Well played. Nikon with RED dot on Camera.
We have to remember who is taking over which company. Nikon will want RED to be folded into Nikon culture. Hopefully that won’t kill RED. Like Sony killed Minolta.
For the past months, I had been exclusively listening to the podcast. Now I see the (new?) intro clip for the first time: Awesome!!!! 🤩🤩🤩
There was a similar to Nikon/Red acquisition. Electric scooter company Ninebot (Xiaomi owned company) was sued by Segway as to hoverboard tech (balanced two-wheeler). As a result, Xiaomi via Ninebot just bought Segway for as low as $80M. Now Xiaomi uses Segway brand instead of Ninebot for its electric scooters.
Thank you for regularly addressing T H E Canon problem.
They should rebrand RED to REDNIK, to show that it's still an american brand at it's core.
RED-ON!!!
REKON
NIKED 🤣
So many idiots… As far as the eye can see. Good job, ding dongs.🤦🏻♂️
Too close to RED NECK. Which is actually kind of funny.
I think Nikon understands the importance of brand names
speaking of premium compact cameras, what about the Panasonic Lumix LX100? I had both the original and the Mark II. LOVED those cameras! got a frightening 8 years of use out of them in a wide range of (terribly lit) conditions doing night shoots, street, small venue live gigs, festivals etc.
but they discontinued the series.
but man, if they brought it back, put some updated sensor / tech / autofocus AI into it... and actually dust sealed the lens this time? THAT would be wild.
because they HAD the retro dials design. they had a cool looking FUN as hell to use camera. absolute classic all-rounder.
definitely one of my faves.
To the OM folks. I have two Sonys, a Cannon and a Pentax. The camera that sits by the door and goes with me every time I walk out the door is a Pen 3. Will buy a new Pen in a heartbeat.
To Chris and Jordan, I found you guys just as I was starting photography and you were leaving DP review. I enjoy your style of reviewing lenses and cameras. There are other reviewers that get down to the nitty gritty of a lens or camera but they don’t always reflect the real life use and experience. I prefer listening to the experience and feeling the tool gives and what you can do with it.
I'm sure the end result is Nikon RED will be their cinema line.
Nikon had a positive cash flow during the time that everyone thought they were going out of business. Moodys and S&P never downgraded their rating. Look it up.
At 28:00 I can feel Chris thinking "anything that 35mm can do, 28mm can do better" and you are still RIGHT.
Yeah but anything 28mm can do 24mm can do better.
@@seth094978 Except be a "do everything" lens! I love 24mm for landscapes, but 28mm doesn't distort as much, so if I can only have one prime to do landscapes AND street AND family pics, 28mm is the one.
You need a telephoto to rule them all.
Any comment on Gerald Undone’s spoof of the street photog review montage? Lol.
It’s brilliant. (And I wish I’d thought of it, instead of just thinking it, if you see what I mean.) But did you have to tell everybody it was a spoof? I was hoping certain UA-camrs would get tangled up in their underwear trying to refute it. . .
One thing about canon’s stance on third party lenses, while I think they really need to have third party lenses, but I understand why they are trying to maximize their revenue early into the system as they release their brand new lenses that take money and r&d to develop.
Hopefully soon they will decide they’ve recouped enough money to allow third party.
One thing people don’t talk about is how Sony stops their high end cameras that actually get more than 10 compressed raw files per second from letting third party lenses from utilizing the cameras full capabilities.
The Sony a1 and a9iii both force you to use very expensive Sony lenses if you want to unlock the full capabilities of the cameras. Thats being very third party unfriendly for the high end market.
But in the same vein they cripple their cameras to max out at 10fps compressed raw for brand new cameras. They are crippling their whole system and nobody cares, but canon is blocking third party autofocus lenses and they’re pieces of shit.
They all do things that aren’t consumer friendly. We need to stop focusing on canons lenses and talk more about Sony fps crippling their cameras to a detrimental degree.
They all need to get their heads out of their asses and be more consumer friendly.
To be honest if you are able to buy a high-end Sony cameras, there's a very small chance that you wish to use third party lenses on high burst mode on it
Canon's problem is more pronounced because there are no affordable mid-range lenses to pair with their affordable entry-level bodies. Ideally you want the lenses to be "better" than the bodies, not the other way around
I now adapt my EF glas on new Fuji cams. Problem solved 🤷🏼♂️
agreed, we all thought Nikon was toast a few years ago. Now to buy out Red, seems like a new era. The ZF doing rather well too.
No one thought it was dead ...except Toneh.
You guys don’t know the Nikoh history; Nikon is part of the Mitsubishi congromarit. Mitsubishi Group is one of the biggest companies. Also, all telephoto lenses for PL mount lenses are Nikon Tochigi factory-made. Arri now uses Fuji film lenses, which you should know. Consider it: British company Videndum (old name: Vitec Group) owns Anton/Bauer, Gitzo, Litepanels, Manfrotto, Quasar Science, Sachtler, SmallHD, Teradek, and Vinten.
Oh yes Nikon made a long time on special order for Holywood a cinema version of their amazing AI-S 300mm f:2 branded as Tochigi (name of their professional and industrial lenses manufacturing plant)
Most important aspect of Nikon and RED... Gordon's coming back baby Lets GO 😎
Sunburst!
Martin should get the Sony A7CII. Within his budget. Modern Autofocus. Enough Megapixels for cropping (Certainly more than a6700). Great dynamic range for landscape.
Hello its me Martin, I love the concept of that camera, also its in my opinion, the most beautiful Sony camera, the thing is its way more expensive tho, Im talking used price because new its kind of impossible to get really. So basically I can get either the A7R III, A6700 or the XH2 for around 1300$ - 1400$, where the A7C II is around 2100$ and then we also get into the territory of the A7IV but still out of my budget. 1400$ is really the most I can spend, both systems in my opinion are great because of the third party lens support so they are really my only choice. I looked as well as the A7 III and the A7C but the lower megapixel than the A6700, not by much tho, and the fact that the A7III is basically the same price of the A7RIII I think is worth going for the "R" version. The A7C, still a beautiful camera, the full frame sensor and the fully articulated screen made it a really viable option, but really the lack of the front dial for wildlife really worries me
@@martingarces4602 Idk where you're from, but where I live, Fuji costs more than Sony so it was an easy switch. My kit is now *smaller and lighter* since switching from Fujifilm to the A7C. Haven't had much issues with lack of front dial. I do miss it, but I've kinda adjusted to it. I think the A7R3 is a no-go because the autofocus is weaker than the A7iii. Sony's AF game only started peaking from the A7iii. I had issues focusing on the 35mm GM with the A7R3 where it would front/back focus on the eyelash or eyes.
A6700 would be the cheapest option in terms of lens ecosystem for sure. The X-H2 also hits diffraction super early so you can't use the 150-600mm lens as it's f/8 on the long end which is already hitting diffraction.
@@professionalpotato4764 I live in Ecuador so I have to look at US sites like MPB most of the time. I made budgets and really it would be kind of exactly the same price to go for either system. Thx for sharing your opinions, they really help, I will look again at the A7C for a viable option, plus its cheaper than all of my current options
Re Babe's comments about testing: You have to shoot artistically if the gear is being evaluated for it's "fun" value (this is particularly true with cameras - do lenses have different "fun" values? I tend to think not, they're tested more on their technical merits, although they are frequently noted for annoyances in their design choices, so some are at least less annoying than others).
Chris, If you ever have time to spare in the Olympia, WA area, let me know you'll be here and I'll take you out to a range and we can do some pew pew. If Jordy-boo is with you, maybe he could video the fun (he could do some shooting too). Weekdays Tues-Fri are best, as the range is usually not busy. (A lot of matches are shot there on weekends.)
I thought Jordan's wife called him Gordon.
Only on accident 😂
@@Abc1987 isn't that one of Jordan's colleagues? 👀
@@mipmipmipmipmip no, that’s his evil twin brother who dp’d and operated a fighter jet on Top Gun
@@questioneverything680Jordan and Gordon DP'd her?!
Chris, you made my day. I often shoot F4 with F2.8 lenses for the same reasons. Thank you!
Here is...
(1) why Nikon had a real shot with their lawsuit against RED in contrary to Apple, Sony and others:
(2) why Nikon won't licence internal compressed RAW in the near future to competitors:
(3) why it's a good thing:
(1) Nikon had an entirely different lawsuit approach as shown in the video below.
ua-cam.com/video/__X25Fr2K_M/v-deo.html
Nikon claimed that the application for the patent wasn't valid in the first place as RED made serious mistakes doing so. And Nikon surely have tangible evidence for it, which other competitors don't have.
(2) BUT if Nikon had won the lawsuit instead of the joint dismissal and agreement with RED in 2023, RED would have lost their patent. Which wouldn't have been just a big loss for RED but a loss for Nikon too. Because not just Nikon would have benefitted from a "free" patent, even more so Nikon's competitors, who already have a good grasp in the video/cinema industry.
So with their joint dismissal of the lawsuit and their agreement the important patent still stays intact. And now RED and Nikon can benefit from each other without other competitors benefitting from the patent.
(3) In a strong competition with big companies like Canon and Sony having a strong ally behind your back is a good thing for development and production resources AND in the end for the consumer.
LOL Chris and his shooting a f2.8 lens at f4. I love that you aren't tied to the technical crap. Yes, I shoot a lot of my f2.8 lenses at f2.8 when I think it makes sense, but I often shoot a series at f2.8 and say to myself, "Oh crap! I wish I would have shot those at f4 or f6.😄
I left canon after 15 years of high end bodies and lenses for Sony because of the open mount (specifically for the 35 150 2.8 for Hula). I also bought a gm 14 24 and the 200 600. Will also be picking up primes soon. I can't see me even considering going back to Canon for at least a decade. Maybe keeping the mount closed worked for them but given the volte face, it seems it didn't.
It's ironic mentioning buying a Sony body for more lens choices rather than sticking with Canon, because that's what I feel like I'm about to do. I love Canon, my R5 has been great, the ergonomics are solid, but RF glass is so expensive that I'd rather just live without AF and adapt vintage glass instead, or fall back on my decades-old design EF 400/5.6. I gave away the rest of my EF glass with my old 60D, and just couldn't get over the sticker shock for a first party lens at the time.
The only person who calls me CHRISTOPHER is my mother when she wants to bother me. So please never call me christopher. lol.
On Minolta: it was never very clear exactly what Sony acquired from buying Konica Minolta. I’ve long come to suspect the ‘heritage’ people often assume Sony inherited may only have amounted to Minolta’s two DSLRs (and possibly a third in preparation that became the A100 or maybe A700) and the Minolta A mount lens production line. It was thought a fair amount of K-M was simply junked: no-one ever mentions Sony having a ‘Konica heritage’-remember the Hexar label?-which suggests there simply wasn’t one, it just vanished.
At 51:50 this became a sploshing podcast. I'm here for it lol
A digital Minolta AF-S-style camera would be a fantastic competitor in the space!
Sony killed Minolta when it acquired it.
@@bngr_bngrYes, I know but, as they discussed in the video, that doesn't prevent Sony from mining an old design for a new camera.
@@jameskezman a Sony camera is a Minolta in the end.
I am a Z9 and Z8 shooter. Recently bought the OM 1 mk II for the computational abilities. ESP the in camera focus bracketing and Starry Sky AF. Love this system esp the fact that I can upscale the MFT through Topaz Gigapixel.
I think the success of the Red acquisition will ultimately depend on the fit of the cultures. I'm very optimistic about this deal. I hope Nikon maintains the Red brand. Almost time to upgrade from my D850... :)
I have an Olympus F2 and I love it.
Absolutely agree with Chris. More creativity in lens tests, please. As interesting as different shapes of bokeh balls might be technically, they get pretty boring. (And what sad photographer shoots snaps of distant lightbulbs for a living anyway?) I too like to shoot ‘at any aperture I damn well please’. Does anybody else find the current obsession with f1.2/f1.4 lenses and shooting wide open just because you can, regardless of the situation, intensely irritating? As a veteran of the 35mm film days, like millions of others, I lived perfectly happily with mostly f2.8 or even f3.5/f4 lenses.
As an aside, I spent far too long snapping inanimate objects (and often near-inanimate people holding awards or shaking hands) for magazines where anything remotely ‘arty’ was definitely not required. It took me years afterwards to even want to point a camera at anything again (inanimate or mobile!) and to see things as a photographer the way I used to before. Like Chris says, there are some forms of photography that can do serious damage to your soul.
Yes, Toneh is saccharine.
I can't imagine choosing Canon RF over Sony E mount, and I used Canon EF for decades
Chris F4 Nichols rant 🤣We feel you bro the rage is real.
I wish Sony would update their multi interface shoe to basically a usb c port and allow for Sony cool/crazy accessories like a waist level viewfinder or a HDMI adapter to connect to an external monitor.
On OM Systems and PenFII / Olympus PenF- the real problem of the PenF was that when it came out, it missed on delivering to the market proposition. As one of you mentioned (Jordan?) the AF was worse than the EM5MKII, they were using the EM5MKII processor at 20MP instead of using a more modern CPU. No PAF, starts up slow sometimes, moderate low to low light AF problems with lenses particularly Panasonic 15mm F1.7 which is a lens that matches it but even Olympus own 25mm F1.8. FAS LCD instead of TILT LCD.
I think a well done PenFII would sell, at least do a modern EP7 successor. But no, they are too stuck on wildlife/adventure/birding and I hope that niche is big enough because a lot of previous m43rds customers are looking elsewhere for their potrait/street/wedding/product/architecture/events/everything else photography.
The minolta Hi-matic series were pretty good looking, and they had a fixed 40mm focal length, would love to see a minolta branded sony made range finder fixed 40mm using the 40mm G full frame lens, can see that totally working.
Nikon 28ti style digital compact would be a winner.
I think that was the ultimate compact film camera. To think they made a 28mm and 35mm version in the same case.
@@bngr_bngr with those analogue Seiko dials… 🤤
Nikon could charge $4k and they would sell as many as they could make. And it would further boost the general appeal of their brand in the UA-cam/Instagram/influencer world.
The old film ones still sell for well over $1k used.
A Nikon competitor to the Leica Q3? Yes, please.
@@penchiselcamera Nikon did produce an exact hand built replica of the rangefinder S3 and SP more than 60 years after their introduction.
I'm still rockin' the Coolpix A
Apple was almost hitting rock bottom before they called Jobs back and they did have a big upswing as well. TBH, I haven't been paying attention to Nikon that much, but it's a good thing they changed because that would be exact my concern. Japanese companies haven't been known for being innovative but rather being conservative, and considering how RED has been losing some ground, that wouldn't be a great mix of success. But hopefully, they will implement this "new vision" and make things work, I'm always up for more competition in any industry.
The firm need a Lichfield or a Snowden in the family... Leica style authenticity is needed. I emailed Pentax about it and I got a message from a named Pentax person that They are considering it. Whole industry needs to be onboard.
they'll be branded "Red by Nikon". Nikon have grown their marketshare by 8% over the last 12months. They now get access to awesome global shutter designs and possible sensor fab? Do red make their own sensors?
Are there official results? I’ve been looking for something like that
at their doom gloom period when everyone said they're finished market share was like 3% now 12% and forecast 13% by end of Japanese Qtr. Figures ar via Thoom Hogan and Nikon Rumors sites.@@qamstel
No, Red does not make their own censors.
Easy to forget the Konica-Minolta before Sony, and Konica had the Hexar AF and RF - super nice bodies.
My god. That thumbnail
What about Konica? Chris mentioned that Sony's heritage was Minolta, but he didn't mention that Minolta took over Konica. Perhaps my most loved and funnest camera ever was the Konica FS-1 with the small 40/1.8 Hexanon. To my eyes, it was beautiful. The battery box for the motor drive gave it a bit of a grip, all revolutionary for the day. It had a fatal flaw. When the electronics failed, as it inevitably did after a few years, the camera was irreparably bricked. It was replaced by the FT-1 which just didn't cut it aesthetically. It looked more like a knockoff. Anyway, one bad product from Sony and it's dead to me, but if Sony brings out an FS-1 replica, I may change systems.
That opening question backfired on Jordan 😆
Just Jar? It’s Jar-Bear and you know it
At 1:01:15, I was shocked when Jordan mentioned "building the image in the live bulb mode", because I totally heard "live VOLDEMORT"...
And btw, SUNSTAR is a Japanese toothpaste/healthcare company
You are not responding the question about RAW formats. His question wasn't should he shoot raw or not, it was: what constitutes a raw format vs a 12bit codec. Is Prores 4444 12 bit considered raw? I think it is possible to encode 12bit in h265, would that be considered a compressed raw format?
Regarding Canon’s desire to be No 1 in the market for mirrorless cameras.
Obviously opening the RF mount to 3rd party manufacturers is a must, but for me the priority should be making cameras with a tilt screen option and not just with their side hinged pull out screen …It’s kind of their way or no way.
I know of a few pros who refuse to shoot Canon simply because they don’t offer a rear screen mechanism choice.
I know that it would be more work for y'all, but I think it would be great if you guys showed pictures on screen of the different camera you guys talk about. I got a bit lost when you guys were talking about older compact cameras that weren't "sexy".
Who’s going to be the hero timestamp poster? ❤
Jordan hard carrying this episode
I sold some RF glass and one of my bodies and tried Fujifilm X-mount. I still have RF body and glass but I’m really tempted to try someone else with a better ecosystem depending on what the final R5mk2 looks like.
For some reason, I think one of the companies that should be worried the most about the Nikon|Red acquisition is Lumix aka Panasonic. Their only draw was cameras that offer good video features and good video lenses. Nikon now has (or is going to have) features that are gonna be euqally good, if not better plus they have a huge standing with photographers. Something that the panasonic cameras have always struggled with for some reason.
Of course, as an L-Mount user myself I hope this pushes Lumix to deliver even better cameras to stay ahead but oh well, we'll see...
What is your opinion on that?
That Kate conversation was interesting AF , flew by me lol
I was on Canon for actually since the AE-1-Program. Their decision to forbid third party lenses on mirrorless made me leave them for Fujifilm X. And actually I'm happier than ever!
So, erm, thanks, Canon for making me break up with you!
Sunburst, I think, would work :)
I would buy a OM Pen just because I do not have any micro 4/3 camera. I would like a black finish with a bit more angular lines in it but that is it. Would pair nicely with my RX100VA. Go and show them Cris, shoot the hell out of F4 because there are some of us that do not want paper thin deep of field... composition matters I guess?
Compairing to sony gm lenses.Nikon not enough lenses in 1.4 range..
I think Red will remain operationally independent . . . perhaps renamed "Red, a Nikon Company." Red's technology will be ported where applicable to Nikon pro-level cameras. Moving forward, new Red cameras will be offered in versions utilizing Nikon Z mount lenses.
Jaron, couldn't agree more - any 70-200mm lens is the best landscape lens!
Panasonic should take the old LX5 design language, enlarge/refine it, give it a micro 4/3 sensor and slap a 14-18mm 1.8 pancake prime on it. That camera would SLAP!
Nikon should provide RED with cash and make them the best RED they can be, Get the most senior execs and go and talk to RED customers, for year, dont worry about fusion products and serendipity, make cinema lenses for them and dont slack on focusing performance and scene AI for the core Nikons, forcing the engineering and technology to premature confluence for would be a disaster.
OM systems and Panasonic could go back to MFT and do a fantastic update on there small street cameras.
Fuji need to take those revenues and throw them at software specifically connectivity, subject recognition and menus.
Canon has absolutely SQUAT, in APS-C lenses.They don't care. It is like everyone who uses APS-C is an amateur lower life form. Camera plus kit lens is good enough for the insignificant masses.
Sony should make a Minolta CLE with a full frame sensor.
There's no way Canon will become no. 1 in mirrorless. Right now, I'd choose almost any other brand over them except perhaps OM System and Pentax. And I don't even like Nikon at all, yet I'd still choose them over Canon. They're so behind the their sensor tech and company mindset that I see them slowly going down in market share once people see it.
Pentax is Green! 😊
If Panasonic announced a new GX and a full frame “SX”, I would preorder before reading more than the heading of the announcement 😅
I wasn't expecting this episode to begin with a game of gay-chicken. I was not prepared.
Canon needs a digital P
The Nikon Red brand name thing is interesting, as in the first part of the discussion you guys were taking about Nikon(Red) vs ARRI, and Canon or Sony never even came up.. I think if Nikon want to compete in Canon/Sony space, rebranding it to Nikon is the way, but Red name still have weight in Hollywood, so just rebranding it to Nikon will kill the brand in Hollywood circles. I think it depends on where Nikon wants to focus. I think they should keep the RED name as a line of cameras which is ultra high end, competes directly with ARRI etc.... and rebrand the rest to Nikon that will directly compete against Canon and Sony cinema cameras.
Red Studios wasn't included in the sale.
At this point I am ambivalent about the Middleton situation. If you look back on real "newspapers" including "tabloids", edited pictures were historically around. We survived. Regarding Nikon/Red, I think that Red employees will become Nikon/Red employees, maybe up to the president.
Something for "Never read the comments" in regards that Nikon acquired RED: shouldnt global shutter be quite a big deal? Nikon is getting hands on a technology that was improved over the span of quite a few years. When Sony came out with news about global shutter a month ago, everyone talked a lot about that. Am I missing something?
Can't get a x100VI, ok... my Canon G2 is still working and looking great. :-)
If Canon want to go into VR they'll go further on the path to insignificance 😂
Trust in media is long gone. 2020-2023 showed the force of centralized command and control, with media, financial institutions all under the boot of order following apparachiks.
Doctoring of photos is the least of our worries.
I am very interested in Chris' lasagna recipe now! Please follow up on this 😄
We have already discussed and now have a concrete plan to do a lasagna throwdown very soon, if things go the way we hope. Jordan will blind judge. -Jaron
Manfrotto enjoyers defend their right to have proprietary thing instead of perfectly capable universal standard rail is kinda like when Apple fans defended Lightning.
Manufacturers catering to them seems so irrational and alogical.
"You don't mind if I call you Eddie Baby, do you?" (Python)
What I am looking for in a retro camera is metal manufacture, dials with engraved symbols.
Also retro means it needs a tilt screen and PC flash sync.
The plastic feeling retro's like the X-T5 do not cut it for me, they do not feel premium.
Question about the sexy bodies discussion- don’t the Nikon Zfc and especially Zf scratch that itch? Especially with the SE 28 and 40?
They do scratch the sexy body itch, but they aren't near small enough to replace a proper compact
om should have pen f back it was supercool
Actually Chris's perceptual mask must have faltered when his lips turned blue. Even these Aliens from Tralfalmador can slip when they get a little jet lagged after they go to Germany and don't get enough sleep.
21:53 This won’t happen unless they can have a compact mirrorless like their EF-M series that shoots raw video.
They need a compact cine cam competitor. There’s a reason people hack older mirrorless canons in the thousands. Give the people what they want and market share will follow.
If one of those future guests happen to be showing off a certain camera that isn't out yet, can you ask them why it doesn't have replaceable batteries?
I'm still waiting for whatever merger will get me a Ricoh GRIII type camera glued onto a smartphone, I would pay all kinds of money for it