What Really Happened to the Yuba County Five?
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- On February 24th 1978, five young men from the Yuba City, CA area drove up to Chico for a basketball game. The inexplicable series of events which followed their departure from that sporting event, from a senseless turn off of the highway to the abandonment of their vehicle at nearly 5000' in elevation, and especially the total disappearance of the fifth member of the group, have puzzled professional and amateur investigators alike for decades; some have even called it "the American Dyatlov Pass". If there were a simple explanation, we'd all know it by now. If there were a convoluted explanation, someone would've probably put it out there. And yet, to this day, it seems there may be no explanation at all. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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0:00 - Intro
4:17 - Flexispot Ad
6:46 - The Maidu People
12:45 - The Disappearance
23:16 - The Evidence
39:00 - Filling the Gaps
1:04:35 - A Possible Explanation - Розваги
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At first I though you were just saying California isn’t part of the U.S., and I would’ve stood by your decision!
Oh, the chair pix’s with you in them are sexy!
you said for 5'4" to 6. what if i'm less than 5'4? :)
5'0 here. Need 4 inch heels :)
Worst MRE? I once had to eat a vegetarian entree. bleah.
Idk why certain people get mad when other content creators cover the same topic. I prefer multiple opinions and different styles of work done as well.
I agree, there's no reason everybody can't win, I watch them all.
Midwits don't know what plagiarism is and isn't, is the short answer as to the "why".
TBH I like it, different takes on the same topic. Wendigoon, Bedtime Stories, Detective Ridiculous, Nexpo, Missing Engima and now Lore Lodge have covered this case and it's great!
Why was my response deleted? I accused no one of plagiarism or that even the video was. I was merely explaining the why as to peoples negative response: they are midwits who dont know what plagiarism is and isn't and think anyone doing something already done is plagiarism. If this gets deleted too I may just unsubscribe.
Me too!!
Things crazy people say;
"The Devil told me to do it."
"Slenderman told me to do it."
"Wendigoon told me to do it."
Wendigoon is just an urban legend.
Diet Brandon Herrera can't hurt you.
@MrKronikDeception don't you mean B tier brandon?
@@Usernamesdontmatter1I can’t tell if yall are hating or not 🤣🤣
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 Is he still B Tier? I couldn't keep up with the fluctuation of Tiers he gave Brandon on the Unsub Podcast
As a Scot, I’m big mad he put Nessie in C tier so I’d put him in the same tier!! 😛 Xx
Gets stuck in snow, has a heart attack, shits his pants, becomes a witness in a missing persons case. Joe had a bad night.
I think we've all had at least 2/3 of these at least once in our life 😂
Schoen also changed his story a few times (2 or 3), at least based on different versions of this story I've heard over the years. And seeing between 2 and 12 people? He wasn't crazy or cripplingly stupid, so he was either being deceptive or he was mentally compromised.
He also reportedly did and said some strange things in the wake of that night.
I'm not saying anything definitive, just saying he might have also been someone _else's_ bad night.
@@MrBrachiatingApeI agree. Besides watching Aiden's video now, I've watched Wendigoon's one and also read some articles in a couple sites and posts, and can't shake the feeling that this man is much more involved in what happened to the guys than he let on.
Not sure how - maybe intentionally scaring the boys, maybe chasing them up the mountain, maybe getting angry and inadvertently making the boys afraid, idk. But he is, in a way, the only real witness and told multiple versions of that night. That's probably not a coincidence.
And was a boozer and known for telling tall tells
@@toooldfortwowheels2048 Matt seems like he is very used of this problem.
Plot twist: the cashier girl killed them and staged the whole thing, for buying so much crap just before closing
Lol
I feel that lmao
😂😂😂
Did she have a boyfriend
As someone who used to work retail, I agree 😅
Mentally handicapped, cheering for the away team at a college sports game... seems like an unfortunately believable target for retaliation. I'm curious if the investigation ever extended back to interviewing people who attended the game to see if they had any verbal altercations with other fans or anything of that nature.
Bro might be cooking
Could wrong directions have been given to them as a way of getting back for cheering for the opposing team ?
they were chased away up that mountain and didnt know what do to do once they got stuck.
The game was a throw away. UC Davis was highly expected to win and did.
People weren’t crazy like they are now back then. 😎✌🏻
This is by far the most empathetic and human explanation that I've seen. Gary would have wanted to help his friends, and I think the idea that he headed out to get help and succumbed to either his illness, the cold, or both makes the most logical sense.
But the place was full of food and sources of heat
@johnscanlon2598 yes, some of which he likely set out for his friends, assuming it would only take him a day to get to where he was going (remember it was only about 5 miles)to then bring help back
If his friend was in a medical emergency (gangrene or serious injury to both feet), food and heat won't help you survive that. If Gary also knew that he himself could only go without medication for so long, it makes complete sense that he would try to seek help (a day's walk away). Unless he could get help, they'd perish, which is exactly what seems to have happened. @@johnscanlon2598
Wendigoon was also pretty empathetic towards Gary and didn’t blame him which I admired very much
plus he was also probably starting to feel the effects of his schizophrenia @@Cuck-n-bull
Hi Lore Lodge, normally I just watch your videos, but I have something to actually contribute this time. I am schizo-affective, which is schizophrenia with a mood disorder underneath it. I currently can no longer take anti-psychotics because of a rare reaction that caused me to have a stroke. I can tell you as a person that took them for 9 years, and also don't take them now that there isn't a real way to know how long it would take for schizoid symptoms to set in, the doctor imagined a month, the father about two weeks, but dopamine regulation is key to schizoid symptoms, and in a situation the boys were in might have reduced their options to eat, and if they had stopped eating or eating as much to match energy expenditure, the baseline ketosis that would occur as the body transfers to lipid energy could have changed dopamine regulation, because keto diets do work for some schizophrenic people. This could have fundamentally offset the schizoid symptoms because sugar metabolism plays a key role in the dopamine regulation in schizophrenic people. I can first hand account for this, I fast a majority of the day and do not eat much though I am a rather large person (6'5" 248 lbs). This is a lot to say that if he didn't have access to calories to replace those lost to environment and also exertion, and they weren't carbohydrate rich, the symptoms are greatly reduced. Hope this helps.
Wow! That's an amazing hard luck diet. So sorry. Good luck.
Thank you for this informed take.
I don’t know if this is the case with the specific medication but many medications are stored in fat so as you burn fat up entirely you may still be getting a small dose of the medication that’s been stored.
Again not sure if that’s the case but have had heard of that happening for things like cabanas where people test positive after losing weight having not taken any for years.
i deal with mental illness but not schizophrenia. i always thought maybe the stress of the situation, potentially seeing his friends suffer and die, could have quickened his mental deterioration? thank you for leaving this comment !
Oh man, I'm so sorry your medication can no longer be used. That's incredibly unlucky.
One of the mental illnesses I suffer from is Bipolar. I can't take most of the medications you'd typically take for it due to severe allergic reaction. This is specifically really dangerous for these medications because these types have a higher (one of the highest, actually) risks for Stevens-Johnson syndrome if an allergic reaction is induced or happens.
Please be safe! I wish you luck and positivity with your journey. Be kind to yourself. 😊
As a case manager for individuals with disabilities (including some co-morbidities such as mental illness and intellectual disabilities), I just want to point out that many people with disabilities have a very rigid set of black and white rules. My thought on the trailer and all the resources they didn’t use is that the boys that made it there were aware that the food was Not Theirs (along with everything else there), and worried that someone would be upset with them eating the food or otherwise using the other resources there. They (most likely Gary) may have been able to rationalize that this is an Emergency and they need to use some of the resources in and including the trailer, but couldn’t get over the fear/guilt/shame/etc of taking Someone Else’s Belongings for themselves.
I'm surprised people expect someone with schizophrenia (even medicated) or intellectual disability to have the same thoughts and act in the same perfectly "rational" way as they would. I'm no expert on mental illness or mental disability so I just figure I can't work out what they were thinking but it's probably different than what I would think.
This is such a good point!
Kind of agree,but not sure they would freeze or starve just to avoid someone potentially being mad at them or not breaking the rules.
My wild guess is that they decided to sleep in the car with the engine running in the snow…,and got carbon monoxide poisoning. My dad had this happen while sitting in a car with a girl on a date, and when he got out,,,,he noted he could barely walk. And people who have survived carbon monoxide poisoning may have short term memory impairment, where they can’t remember what happened 10 minutes prior. That degree of impairment may have made it hard to use the food and heater.
I only have autism, not any intellectual disabilities, but I can fully understand that kinda thinking
I experience something kinda similar, where if there’s no food that I like (or at least tolerate), whether it’s because of texture, taste, etc, I simply will not eat until there IS food I’ll eat, so I can fully see that kind of “if it’s not mine it’s bad to use it, someone will be mad at me” mixed with “food I don’t tolerate is the same as no food” causing someone to just not eat freely accessible food to the point of starvation
Wendigoon’s Yuba County 5 video is one of my favorites on that channel, I’m so excited to see Lore Lodge’s take on this case!
Ikr because same 😊
Me too
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Is this Wendigoon? 🤨
It's the only good video on his channel
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I've never been happy with an explanation for the cabin circumstances until now!! Gary setting up jack and ted to survive and then going off for helps 100% makes the most sense and is corroborated by the can opener detail that one can was opened by a military opener and all the rest a standard one, lining up with Gary staying for a meal and before leaving them behind!!
Yes! I've watched dozens of people cover this, but I've never felt comfortable with the cabin bit until this video. They did a great job piecing that together!
Missing enigma did a good job with the cabin part as well. I honestly believe that Gary was not involved as many people want to believe mostly cause why would he and the fact that he wasn’t arrested for misdemeanour or wasn’t found prior after the fact showed that he probably died in the woods.
@@victory8928 I agree, Gary Mathias died of exposure like the others, and it's not at all surprising his remains weren't found in that wild environment. It's very sad that conspiracy theorists have cruelly trashed his reputation, based on his schizophrenia.
The poor guy was victim of a tragic set of circumstances that ended his life brutally. I believe from the evidence Gary ended up in that survival trailer with a frostbitten and very sick Ted Weiher, and did his very best to take care of him. This must have been particularly horrendous for Gary, as withdrawal from his schizophrenia meds kicked in.
Gary Mathias has living relatives who sometimes view and comment on 'Yuba Five' videos. They are deeply hurt at speculation that their beloved relative murdered his friends. I wish people would think about the effect their unproven accusations could have - these young men are deceased but they were real people, and they have living relatives and friends who mourn them to this day. Branding their lost loved one a serial killer - based on zero evidence - is shabby and ridiculous.
Having some kind of medical problem, and suddenly headlights pull up behind me, people whistling, seeing 5-6 people outside, and when i ask for help, the lights go out and they go silent? That sounds like an absolute nightmare scenario right there. Hills have eyes kinda shit.
My husbands in the Army and I asked him about the MRE. He said, hands down, the omelette is the worst one. 😂
The veggie omelette…. A brick shaped catastrophe 🤢
Omelet with ham was also…shudder
Can comfirm. Even the stray dogs in iraq wouldnt eat the vomlette
I burped that up silently and somebody about 20 ft away said "omg who shyt".
A very common option.
I really like when you give the little history lesson of where the story takes place. The transition from discussing natives into the story was so smooth. Mad props my guy.
While people outside of the US skip straight thru to the next chapter. Not my country so don't care whose lands who, only interested in the case that's been covered five million times by every single person on social media but it's still a story I've always found fascinating
Its boring.
Waste of time and boring as hell. If I want a history video I'll find one and not go to a missing persons video for it.
It's like going to McDonald's for sea food.
I'm sorry... The cut to Aiden in the chair *winking* at us for half a second just killed me a little bit ☠️😆
I looked away for a second and only caught the cut away, had to watch it again 😂
I was a cadet for a couple years and we did field training exercises every year, sometimes twice a year. My worst MRE was the Chicken chowder. The worst one I’ve ever tried was the Vegetarian one. The story behind my experience with the vegetarian MRE was that I got to speaking to a fellow cadet who was a vegetarian and I asked how the vegetarian MRE tasted. Their response was, “It’s so bad, I wish I never told anyone I was a vegan.” Of course I couldn’t believe anything was that bad and they offered for me to try it myself. The cadet was right.
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My vote would be 'beef patty', circa late 1980's.
There is a BIG difference between vegetarian and vegan. One is a diet. The other a protest.
@@dawn8542 I’m aware, I’m just quoting what they said at that time. They were a vegetarian but the forms at the time did not have a vegetarian box, only a vegan one. Cadets was a strange place
@@dawn8542 also, vegans don't eat any animal products at all, whereas vegetarians only don't eat any meat but still have milk and eggs and stuff
The only thing I've heard that you didn't mention and that may support Gary having stayed behind in the trailer for some time was that there was a book or magazine in the trailer in which affirmations were written, supposedly by Gary. This would indicate that he was in the trailer long enough for his meds to begin wearing off and he was doing his best to maintain stability in order to care for his friend. I wonder if perhaps the two found together also made it to the trailer and were the first to set out, leaving Gary (the most capable) to care for the fourth. The one found alone I suspect succumbed to hypothermia on the way up the mountain.
All conjecture of course but this is the scenario that seems most likely to me. Great breakdown, though.
That part I never came across. I could see Gary being there a couple of weeks, but not beyond that. His disorder would’ve been crippling.
As a perfectly functional 20ish adult, I was coming home one dark, rainy night from a family members home. It was a 20 min trip, and I'd done it many times. I totally spaced, and missed a turn, so I took the next one incorrectly remembering that it would join up to the road I wanted. An hour later I was still driving down random narrowing streets which rapidly became unpaved, having no idea where I was, being pelted by branches coming out of the trees from the strong winds, and panicking because I could not find any turn around spots. Eventually, I just stopped in the middle of the road and grabbed my old school Tom Tom to tell me how to get home. Had a cell phone but never thought to use it (prob wouldn't have been helpful because I had no idea where I was, so neither would anyone I called). It can happen. Who knows how I would have gotten home if I didn't have a GPS. I probably would have had to wait until morning and some light to figure it out where I was.
Thanks for sharing your experience. You're so right. I've attempted to get around road construction during the day and instead got hopelessly lost on the country roads of Georgia while picking up my kids from preschool. Thankfully, it was sunny and I had GPS, which led me back to the road I was trying to avoid. I ended up wasting half an hour of my time in an attempt to avoid an inconvenience, and it's entirely conceivable that they mistook their route and got lost.
I JUST finished a full length documentary script for this. I have my theories, and Gary is not at the top of my list. I think he did what he could under the circumstances. Poor guy
Wow, so cool! How are you gonna go about this?
I agree. At most he may have had some negative interaction with someone at the game, store, or with Shone. The last most likely in my opinion. But that could be said for any of them.
No evidence but I feel like they did run into an inebriated Shone somewhere leading to Madruga was wounded at the car. Then panic north. Shone reacted to the events with a heart attack then becoming ill. A lot of the how of it all depends what state Shone was in that night.
Good luck with your script!
@SoLDMG I started with Gateway's and the boys histories, because I think the climate towards the handicapped at the time might have played a role. Ran through the case and then I rounded off with theories. I covered everything from UFOs, hate crimes, Gary's schizophrenia....all of it. So pretty standard
@@fiffihoneyblossom5891how interesting! A big problem I face with the chasing theory is how 5 men, 2 with military training get driven up a mountain by car jackets. Goodluck with the doc.
I never considered Gary leaving early, but I think you're spot on with that.
After watching Wendigoon's video about this case, I'm looking forward to seeing the Lore Lodge's take on it!
for real, i just rewatched wendigoon’s video on them YESTERDAY. i’m so excited for this.
You people are in a cult
@@The_king567because they watch two related UA-cam channels or am I missing something? What happens if they also watch Mr. Ballen?
@@ItMeSinamenRoll no wendigoons fan are cult members
@@The_king567 Can you explain? I genuinely don't know what you're taking about.
Missing Enigma's videos (a two part release) on this subject are rather good. Probably some of the better ones I have seen, will check this wendigoon one as well.
Agreed, to be honest I didn't watch either ME or Wendi's until after we made this so I wouldn't be influenced, but I think Nick did an utterly flawless job with the research.
Nigma’s is probably one of the first I watched on this case and it’s absolutely solid. One of the first few I watched for Missing Enigma’s channel I watched tbh. Absolutely solid videos.
@@TheLoreLodge Thanks for the reply! Good to know you hadn't viewed the vids prior, an unbiased telling of the tale is always better.
@@CreativaArtly Now I'm REALLY gonna go scare up Wendigoon's vid on this subject. I rewatched ME's Yuba Cty 5 series right before this kicked off, would like to see another perspective.
the missing enigma is a masterclass in research.
As a resident of Chico, California, I was pretty stoked to see you were going to do the Yuba 5 because: Lore Lodge + Subject = history of the area. Actually, Yuba County is Maidu and Chico is Mechoopda, but it was very cool to see a local indian tribe done here in the Lore Lodge. Thank you.
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I've seen other people immediately blame Gary because of his mental health, but I've always thought it was very unlikely that he intentionally hurt his friends. I think it's highly possible that the red pickup truck was real, forced them up the mountain (albeit slowly), they got stuck behind the other guy's car, and then the boys ran. The car being unlocked with the window rolled down seems to suggest this. Maybe the pickup truck even just abandoned them right there once they saw that the other car was stuck and blocking the way. Whoever was driving the pickup might have thought "it's not worth the risk" and simply left. The boys would have probably thought they were still being chased. Gary would have helped them until his lack of medicine began to take a toll, at which point he may have gone for help or tried to get away out of fear of hurting his friends. I think the amount of provisions left behind suggests he went for help.
As for the guy having a heart attack, the first time I heard the story my immediate thought was that he must have been doing something illegal that he didn't want to get in trouble for, so he said he had a heart attack. All the throwing up and defecating he claimed to experience could have been from alcohol or drugs. Maybe he had a secret stash on the mountain that he wanted to hide before his family got there. Could have been anything. Either way, he was probably extremely out of it or unwilling to help the boys because he didn't want to get caught doing whatever he was doing. Might have even pretended to be asleep when the flashlight was shined in his car. As for his very ominous quote, maybe that was referring to whatever he was doing on the mountain. I really doubt he was saying he killed the boys or anything like that. He could have literally meant "I wish I'd walked back down the mountain a long time ago" instead of freezing in his car for hours.
So who was driving the pickup and why did they chase the boys? Someone else in the comments suggested that the boys were followed from the game they had just been at. I think that's a possibility. Maybe they had angered someone there, or maybe someone didn't want them to participate in their upcoming basketball game. Since Gary was part of the Gateway Project, despite not actually being intellectually disabled, it seems like anyone with any mental issues could have been included. Potentially very dangerous ones that may or may not have been being treated.
I think your theory is the one that fits the best.
They might have taken the wrong route once they realised the red pick-up was following to try and loose them?
The slow trip up the mountains could have been a combination of refusing to stop for the red pickup truck and concern for the car. Too fast for the driver to walk up to them, but too slow to loose them.
The guys ran when they got the chance and the road was blocked by the stuck car. Two perished from exposure running away (from either trying to return to the car/getting seperated from the others)
The cabin situation plays out as explained in the video, with the final guy's medication running out and the (likely valid) paranoia/memory of the red pick up truck driver leading him to either perish deep in the woods or make it back to civilisation with no intention of ever revealing who he was.
As for the gold watch in the cabin none of them supposedly owned? Might have been either stolen or taken by accident and that led the pick up to follow them, if the dispute wasn't about the basketball game
Schizophrenia, in its worst cases, causes one to completely lose their grip on reality.
It doesn't matter how much Gary cared for the boys. In fact if he had a break and was convinced that streetlights were evil cameras they needed to avoid them he would have believed he was helping them by convincing them to go into the woods.
It's a simple explanation that covers all the details without foul play or anything supernatural being involved.
I didnt realize they were in the area between Brownsville and Forbestown. It now makes a lot more sense that they got stuck, tried to walk, and got lost. The short distance between places in that area are very decieving because it is very hilly with thick woods and limited landmarks or signs to orient yourself. If you dont already know where the roads and turns are to get to your destination, you will get lost.
The map makes it look like there is a big main road from town to town, but it is more like tons of little unmarked country roads and the map is just highlighting which little road will go to the next town. I have been lost there going from Dobbins to Forbestown to see my family.
Wow I didn’t know this about the area. That definitely adds more nuance to the possibility of them getting lost.
There's a reason most of us don't venture above Berry Creek...
-A lifelong Oroville resident
This is the most simple and logical explanation. They thought follow the road and never realized it was a fatal mistake. Too bad Schons was a very unreliable witness to say the least. I dont think Schons had any prominent role in there going up into the middle of nowhere .
Can i just say, the framing, lighting, camera work etc on the chair ad exhibition is legitimately more well done than actually any 'lproduct being used as intended' ad I've ever seen?
This story is a really hard one for me, my son is autistic and I just can’t even imagine how these boys parents must have felt 😢 sad they never had any resolution
I couldn't care any less about the number of other creators that have covered the same topics. Aiden breaking down the Mrballen stories is what brought me here.
It's still haunting to me to think about what led them out of the car and to their eventual demise separated from each other. I mean the fact that we only have 4 of the 5 bodies in itself is terrifying.
From one historian to another, I must say I really appreciate and enjoy your refreshingly innovative and brilliantly conceived multi-perspective, interdisciplinary approach to hIstorical surveying and analysis. Your impressive catalogue of knowledge draws from a widely diverse range of disciplines and epistemologies, thereby demonstrating a genuine passion and respect for the rich, dynamic and multi-textured nature of history - a rare and all too often absent quality in most standard contemporary (and traditional) readings of history. This, in addition to to your inviting, comfortable demeanor and seemingly effortless recounting of facts is partly what separates you from perhaps most other historians I've worked with or observed throughout my 40+ year career as an historian of Black Diasporic Studies and Antebellum Southern history. You seem to possess a remarkably sophisticated and advanced understanding and appreciation of history, and you will no doubt go on to achieve great heights and success in your chosen fields of study and research. I am so happy to have recently discovered your program and eagerly look forward to your next episode. 😊
That is one hell of a compliment, thank you.
@@TheLoreLodgeseriously though I’ve always wondered how you look right at the camera lens and can shoot off so much info/names/locations/dates/EVERYTHING without a script! I know you have your notes off to the side, but what’s your secret? Normal to have a bunch of camera takes and that could be it but do you memorize? -Random question from a fan who does video so have been wondering this. ❤
I found Missing Enigma some time ago and he deserves way more love. He does amazing work and I'm glad you guys mesh so well and I love seeing you guys in this same kind of realm of video types supporting each other.
There can never be enough Yuba County 5 videos
I really love that you include a short history of the locations you speak about. It means a lot and needs to be remembered. Coming from a partly indigenous family myself, it's really wonderful to see the history coming back. You do an honor every time you include that, please don't stop! Thanks for another great episode guys and Many Blessings!
I first heard about this story via Bedtime Stories. Their vid is well narrated but is somewhat short. Missing Engima's two parter is probably the most in-depth and comprehensive look at this incident available anywhere. I will admit though, Lore Lodge did an excellent job with this video.
Missing Enigma is awesome and one of the best channel in researching the facts. Been subscribed as long as it been around.
Big facts
Love that channel.
55:00 Worst MRE experience: I was a Public Health Technician in the USAF and one of my responsibilities was Food Safety & Sanitation inspection.
In a deployed location, there were metal shipping containers full of MREs that had separate power supplies to keep them from becoming 1000 degrees in the desert sun. Well, one container lost power for months and apparently no one noticed. When found, the contents of the MREs were basically chunky, black sludge. Just imagine the smell.
Thousands of government dollars wasted, but I guess that’s just another day lmao.
Can you and Wendigoon do a podcast episode, or similar, discussing your respective differences in conclusions and why different elements (evidence, sources, claims) were prioritized over others?
I think that discourse could be great!
wendigoon has nothing to benefit from doing that
No we don’t need anymore right wing conspiracy theorists
@@Armored_Ariete Wendigoon has done other collaborations with Lore Lodge.
@@Armored_Arietethey’re friends, I think they’re interested in doing more content together
They have an entire podcast together. Ya know, “Weird Bible”?
Awesome video. Anyone else love the name "Madruga?"
The only thing I think you could be overlooking is that you assume being chased by car means they were going fast. They could have been slowly followed and after finally being caught between their pursuers and the other guys car, just out and made a run for it.
I’m actually covering this case and its theories for my high school forensics class right now. What drew me to cover this case is to disprove to the best of my ability the common stance that Mathias was a perpetrator, not a victim. I’d appreciate if you’d be willing to share any sources or what you did to discover any contemporary reporting. I am especially looking for information about after the boys got onto the mountain. The details you found regarding Madruga’s keys, the sea rations, Schons’ time in the lodge and many other smaller details would be great to have contemporary sources for. I think that you made a great case using all of the evidence you’ve found for all the boys but primarily Mathias and his likely innocence. I’d appreciate any sources you can point me towards as I want to portray this case as thoroughly as you did.
I mostly just used newspaper articles from the time, but if you really want the good stuff Missing Enigma has it
C-rations, and if you're doing it for school, I'd humbly like to suggest you have a look at my comment. I've probably forgot parts to address, but I tried to cover all the theories. My personal hunch, summarized, is that they were in the mountains because of the ex of Gary's sister. He had it out for her family. They found bullet casings in the car, while none of the boys had a gun. I think the five of them died from natural causes, but at different times, except for the two that initially went back for the car. There's a lot more detail in the other comment. Please let us know your finished work? I'd be genuinely interested to read it :)
Tony Wright’s new book would be your best source.
@@NemFX There are 500 comments on this video.
@@NemFX did they ever check that EX guy out?
I kinda miss when part of the history section was folklore. I know you guys have moved away from the kind of conspiracy side of things to an extent, but I really enjoyed learning about native legends nonetheless. Hope y'all start that up again :)
Chiming in I grew up in Quincy California which is north of this area. The cabin where the boys were found is really out of the way. The Quincy-Oroville highway wasn't paved till the early 90's and is closed during the winter. If one was lost my assumption is that one would go up Highway 70 before reaching the Quincy-Oroville highway. Next do the Keddy murders.
SAME! Came here to say exactly this!!! And I second the Keddy Murders.
@@AprilShowers73 do you live in the area?
Thats what i was thinking. 99 south, 149 to 70, at 70 turn up 70, go through Quincy, turn towards Bucks Lake there, then get stuck.
@@kingelvis5502 I misspoke I should have said Bucks Lake Road they were found off of that. Bucks Lake Road would have been closed it isn't plowed during the winter. Plus you would have to know to turn on Bucks Lake Road once you get to Quincy the natural route is to continue east on to Hallelujah Junction at the California/Nevada State line. I'm saying they passed 70 (Feather River Canyon) which is the Quincy Orville highway and ended up further east on Bucks Lake Road. Wasn't one of the boys trying to see a friend?
Correction Quincy-Oroville Highway is route 70 going up through the Feather River Canyon. The boys were found off of Bucks Lake Road which also goes from Oroville to Quincy past Bucks Lake and the town of Meadow Valley. This road wasn't paved till the 90's and is still closed during the winter.
This case has fascinated me since I first heard about it. I believe it might have been the first Missing Enigma I ever saw, and I immediately thought "I hope Aidan and Wendigoon cover this eventually." Now you both have, so the trifecta is complete.
This is one case I definitely wish I could live to see solved but at this point unless Gary Mathias is somehow alive and willing/able to come forward, we'll never truly know why it went the way it did. I don't know what sort of afterlife there is, if any, but if there is any I hope the families are all reunited and any surviving family members are at peace.
I love your opening statement because my first thought when I saw the topic of this video was 'Huh. I wonder if he talked with Wendigoon about this."
My first thought was “didn’t he do this one before?” As soon as he said Wendigoon did it I was like “oh yeah….thats why this sounds different”.
Honestly, I live for the local history segments. The achorn thing is pretty neat.
The town bully, who became a preacher, was involved.
What town? What bully? Did he have a name? How did he bully? Was he questioned? How was he involved?
Statements like yours are very....
Some of the people who were involved are still alive. It would not be a good idea to identify them publicly. Someday everyone concerned will be deceased and the truth can safely be revealed.
@@gravypatronhe is alive and, because this is still an active investigation, that's why it's not convenient to name him
How can you tell?
Yes.
Watching multiple people tell the same story is a great way to retain information! Different styles resonate with different people.
I think the 'heart attack' guy had a lot more to do with this incident than people realise. It is pretty clear that the various later 'sightings' of these young men in the area were completely erroneous. They were up that mountain and would have been much better off staying with their car. But clearly something really frightened them, and made them run further up the mountain. I suspect 'heart attack' guy for causing this, his testimony constantly changed. Did he pull a gun on them? They left a window down - they ran away.
Okay but the wink during the chair ad alone was enough to make me want to buy it lol the chair legit looks super comfy as an adhd madman who cannot sit right for anything
As always, very well presented! Thank you!
I’ve been waiting for this video!!! Now I have Wendigoon’s, Nexpo’s, Missing Enigma’s, and Lore Lodge’s videos!
I love comparing how each channel looks at the series of events and comes to their own conclusion on what happened. This just made my Monday!
Started watching Missing Enigma on your recommendation a while back and wow you and him are my favorite two creators for this topic of content. Both very thorough and both take a lot of pride in your work. Love that you aren’t afraid to give credit to other creators 👏🏼
I appreciate the respect you have when discussing their disabilities. Thank you.
thanks for the shoutout to Missing Enigma. I like both your content, and TME does some really great work
He’s awesome! Total joy to have on the live show too
Respect to you for giving due credit to The Missing Enigma's 2-part special on the Yuba Five mystery. It is without question the most comprehensively researched, insightful and in-depth video on the case to be found on UA-cam. It should be the starting point for anyone wanting all the known facts - and just as important, the unproven theories.
Errrr arrggg im so mad that now not only one but two of my favorite creators have a video on a truly crazy mystery. /S obviously, I'm glad to hear your take on the story. Another banger!
This story, along with The Boys on the Track and The West Memphis Three, are the ones I can never hear enough! I'm so glad you're adding your 6 cents (you put in WAYYYY more than 2 cents) to the record, Aidan! Wendi's version is also amazing. I'm a firm believer that everyone puts their own stamp on a story, and there's plenty of room on the interwebs for everyone. I mean, in all the versions of this story that I've heard, I've never gotten an Aidan Mattis history lesson along with it!
Love hearing your take on this case Aiden, always enjoyable to see your investigative process going over a topic as it brings a fresh perspective.
In relation to the MRE question worst I've personally had has been chicken and tuna with rice, EU humanitarian MRE, if you'd like to try them I have a couple left and would be glad to send them to you alongside some other items.
Thanks for covering this. This one is a headscratcher. Your video and missing enigma's really get into the detail that a lot of channels only giving this a cursory look miss.
Love both channels and I enjoy hearing both talk about it, thanks for the upload 🙏
Finally a new video to watch. Adrian I been loving the content man really have you do great work. But I was wondering if you would ever cover the Travis Walton incident?
I am golden btw kind sir. The fact you checked on me when i had no family or friends made a huge difference. I apologize for what I said, Im not sure why I said that. For anyone reading, this dude is a good man and a great creator.
I’m just glad to know you’re still here
Honestly I've been waiting for this for a long time this case needs to be talked about more
I just discovered you guys like within the past week and I have already watched a lot of your missing 411 videos. I was actually talking about this case with my dad during breakfast this morning, so this was a plesant surprise when I finally got home! Keep up the great work guys!
6:46 The phrase _"pitched you a chair"_ definitely sounds like it would be some kind of old, obscure expression someone's grandfather would say, especially when it's followed immediately with _"gonna learn ya a thing'r two."_
Love ur stories n content, n it’s kinda sad these men disappeared n strange stuff happened, n I remember a story bout this in a yt channel called “Nexpo”, it was well written.
Ps: Ur dog is gorgeous plus I use to have a dog like this when I was a toddler. Her name was “Kheelo”, she passed away in 2004.
as someone who’s directionally challenged… don’t underestimate how lost and illogical we can end up
Awesome as always thanks
Here for the MRE opinions! My dad was a lowkey doomsday prepper and would order them online. I’d picked through a few of them on occasion. The Tang drink mix was positively inexcusably bad…but if the apocalypse ever comes I’m sure I’d be grateful for it.
Unironically, it is better warm than cold or neutral.
You're always there for me 😂 I need to get ready for an art show tonight and was looking for something interesting to listen to and BOOM, there you were with new content. I thank you, cause I'm nervous and need to chill and this will help. 🥰
You listen to this while the art show? Can I asked what show it is?
I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into the local history sections of your video (and the rest of the research!)
Great way to start the episode 😂 I’ve been waiting for this one btw. Loved Wendi’s, excited to see your perspective.
4 seconds in :paused: 👍 excellent intro.
Your intros always hit
that one story I have about getting lost in the woods does kinda fit this theme, but as far as I know I survived it.
So glad that the history segment returned this week
I was born and raised in Chico (in ‘01) so when I first heard about this case from Nexpo, the Missing Enigma, and Wendigoon I was super intrigued! I told my co-worker about the case and he watched Wendigoon’s video, only to find out that his grandfather was at the basketball game! I always love hearing you cover topics that hit so close to home, like Mount Shasta. You’ve literally taught me a lot of lore I didn’t even know about my own area!
Also, as a student at Chico State I can confirm that everyone locally calls it Chico State, as did clayface in that one episode of Harley Quinn lol
I throughly enjoyed this video! It was so thought out
I live like 30 mins away from Yuba County. This case freaks me out.
Love this channel!! Missing Enigma and Wendigoon did great videos on this and Lore Lodge has done it again 👍!! Another amazing video! Thank you for all the hard work you do to entertain the masses✊✊
Great video!! Missing Enigma's coverage of this case is amazing too. I've listened to it multiple times, and the way the story gets told always gives me goosebumps.
Your unique attention to detail is what makes an hour-plus segment always worthwhile, even if I've heard multiple other channels' takes on it.
That was my thought the instant I saw this. And here we are, 20 minutes in, and I already know more about this incident than all the other coverage told me.
I’ve lived in yuba city my whole life and I used to drive to Chico everyday for work.. it would be easy to accidentally get onto 70 on the way back if they were unfamiliar with the route and it was dark because at the 99/70 split 70 is the straight lane whilst 99 is a slight right to stay on. Great video
According to several comments on the Missing Enigma channel's videos on this incident, the road layout at a particular junction has changed since the time of the incident, and originally it was a straight run through on 99 and virtually impossible to go off by accident.
The driver was not unfamiliar. He had driven all over that area and all over California in general many times. The valley landscape (hwy 99) is also totally different-looking than the mountain roads into the Sierras. There’s no way they just mistook one route for the other.
I love your history segments. I appreciate the work you put into creating a well written story. I would love to hear some history only stories. I can’t be the only one that does!
Honestly I get really hype whenever my favorite channels cover similar or sometimes the same topics, because usually they use different styles of research and different sources, leading to more or different information + usually vastly different theories which is always entertaining. Plus I love that while Wendi usually focuses on the more tragic and human side of it, usually the lore lodge, missing enigma etc dwelve into the history of the surroundings, the locals, their beliefs and stories and such and it's always fun to learn
I love your longer videos!! Keep them coming!
Missing Enigma’s coverage was awesome!! You guys did a great job too!!!
Weir was wrapped in eight sheets because his last words were, “I’m cold.” Repeated or something alike. Hewett wrapped him in all he had as the best he understood to do when Weir became unresponsive and before he left. Thats what comes to mind as I listen to this take.
Such a sad story. I’ve seen it done about 4 times now. This was a good detailed version. Brilliant!
Thanks for another great one!
Loved the chair commercial 😂
Yes! Let’s go! Please listen to Wendigoon more, Aidan!!! 😊😊😊.
Solid video. Great work as always.
I know it's a small thing but I like it when you include images of the landscape. As someone who never was in the US, it helps the setting a lot
I think about this case at least once a week. That's not an exaggeration. I was very excited to see a video on it from this channel. This was the perfect balance of objective analysis I was looking for against the (equally valid) more artistic and heartstring-pulling ones from Enigma and Nexpo. Thanks for helping to keep the Yuba County Five's memory alive and relevant today.
Once a week?
What explanation do you think fits best?
That doesn't sound healthy
I think you came the closest with the idea of being chased. Never doubt the lengths a (possibly drunk) bully will go to because of a perceived insult. Especially in the presence of a friend or two. The generations today don't understand what no cell phone, no gps, no help look like, when you're being tailgated because of 'X' insult on the road. Now imagine the panic that would have occured in the car if several differently-abiled members of the group saw flashing, swerving lights at eye level, and loud honking coming right behind them and they didn't understand why or what this person wanted. What's the most likely thing that would occur? I think this is the single most likely occurrence.
(And anyone who thinks, "Well, certainly the motorists would have called the police, or have reported seeing someone on the highway acting like a complete ass to another car!" has clearly never driven in 1978 when the legal drinking age was 18 [CA upping the age to 21 later that year in the very tail-end of Dec] and a call to the police meant finding a familiar exit, knowing where the gas station was and getting out of your car to use a payphone.)
Love the amount of detail you give us. Fascinating stuff
I'm from Paradise, Ca, in Butte County and have followed the Yuba County Five pretty much since they went missing. I've watched every segment about them whenever I come across one, and I appreciate the way you talked about the history of the area and the research you did to tell their story together and individually. Many people tell this story the same generic way and I quickly lose interest, you kept my attention by the way you told it, very good job. ✌🏼
What's your take for this case?
If you get tired of making content for us, you can always go into modeling, your Blue Steel is excellent.
The Aidens are finally doing it.😊
Saw this story a few times, but I love your research and in-depth dive into this.