Wow just went to driving range and put this in to practice. Theres a mound there set at 250y that I could only hit with my driver set at 12 degrees. I always knew about sway and weight shift but I never understood the sway and more importantly the sequencing of the sway. I was always of trying to set up in the k position. Well I can’t believe it I ball is carrying over the mound and landing 20 yards past. I quickly put it back to 9 degrees. OMG it for the first time ever I got a penetrating flight that carried 40 yards past the 250 yard mound. This is with range balls. I was obviously too steep before but now I am sweeping it off the tee. Thanks Guys.
Tiger's early swing had this "shift"/" perceived sway that we often tried to copy, but never understood the concept of spin "centeredness". Great video, clarity to a long-standing issue for me and I suspect many others.. Thanks
The comment you guys made, "throwing the head at the ball not the hands", organized my weight pretty well by itself Then posting up with the lead leg and pushing the shoulder back took it to another level. I was smashing it as far as my normal driver swing but at a medium speed. I now need to drill this in at low/medium speed so I can go all out at it. When I tried at full tilt on my simulator today I would pull hook it a bit. Its just a matter of time before I'll be able to organize this pattern at full speed. Thanks..
Awesome video, i have done this wrong for years and have not been able to get it right you have described a great way to work on this. Great job as usual.
You guys got chemistry... you got the passionate guy and the serious guy... laurel and hardy... pressure in my left leg spins my left hip, whack, fairway every time
Another swing thought is keeping the shoulders and arms in sync with the hips. One of the hazards in spinning the hips fast is the arms falling behind and losing the swing angle for direct ball contact.
All really good stuff here. I see a lot of people struggle with stopping the lateral forward shift (putting on the brakes) to the be able to move up. One of the things I’ve noticed that Rory does is that he has a late turn in his backswing during his re-centering phase which then positions his shoulders in a square to more closed position. Do you think that having his body more in that position helps him to (put on the brakes laterally) so he doesn’t keep moving laterally and he can come up?
I watched a video of Rory showing some fellas how to hit it farther. The biggest takeaway was how far he stands from the ball. He put the ball on a tee and then put a tee on the ground to mark their foot position. Each guy said they were reaching for the ball. Rory said it allows him to get behind the ball.
Really love your training videos, just extremely helpful. Watch every one that comes up. My only questions is, why is that golf ball that appears at the beginning of AMG videos so dirty looking and, based on the dimple pattern, so out of date looking? Looks like one of those balls recovered from the lake at a driving range after being submerged for a year. We your fans need to find you a prettier, newer looking ball. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you for all the great advice and drills.
I think he pulls back a little when he takes the club away because he is throwing his arms and club up together as one unit, and his body is sort of reacting to what it's about to do. When I try this on the range, I literally hit 15-20 yards further than a stock iron shot, but because it's not natural to me it's as little unpredictable. I also noticed that he lifts his left heel a tiny bit and replants it, and there's a little funny head twitch in there around transition or impact somewhere. Such a great movement though, it's pretty to watch.
Great video. Would love to see a video on the relationship between the head/chest/hips lateral movement. I get a good low point and head position too far forward or head position is good and I get the ball
So I've got an analysis idea for you two: I have a theory that the lead leg moves a certain way at transition re the knee and hip joints, ie fkexions/extensions. I think in the best motions the lead hip fkexes at transition while the knee holds steady or slightly begins extension at transition. Have you two ever looked at this? I think that flexing the knee at transition actually causes hip extension, exactly what we don't want. It also occured to me that the lead hip will move back when doing this correctly, exactly what we do want. I watched a few hours of the great strikers and I think I'm seeing it right. The so called "sit down move" doesn't include more lead knee flex, in effect we are replacing a slight left hip extension that occurs in the pivot to the top. My theory is that "early extension" is actually a function of not putting the hip flexion back in at transition. Tough to explain, but I'd be really curious what gears shows on this. When I consciously seperate the knee and hip joint motions at transition like this, good things happen. The non flexing or slightly extending knee pressures the lead hip back as you add flex. Hope I interested you guys in a look at this!
@@AthleticMotionGolf That's exciting to hear! It's a subtle thing but I thinkt it might be really critical. And it's not hard to do once you're aware and so many good things happen then. Hope you guys see what gears shows. Thanks!
I understand the importance of a proper weight shift but I am having trouble coordinating that with flattening the club (getting it in the slot). When I do the drill my right shoulder seems to move out and then around (not under) and I seem to throw my hands (or the right hand takes over). It would be great to have a follow-up video on how to lower the club properly while doing this drill. Any suggestions?
@@AthleticMotionGolf you would see the weight put into the back foot initially, probably 40-50% and as the club starts on the down swing a shift of weight forward to 90% as you drive your leading foot into the ground and as the club makes impact with the ball. Maybe I'm off a little bit but I know when I hit monster drives I initially drive my back foot into the ground on the back swing and my front foot gets pushed into the ground on my down swing.
Great video very enjoyable to watch. I grew up watching the likes of Norman, Faldo, Price, Ballesteros,Lyle, by no means we're these guys weak,but would like to understand why the players now on both European Tour and PGA Tour are so much longer off the tee and particularly longer wth the irons,I know working out in the Gym helps but is there something else.
They are positioning their bodies (as a group) in ways that allow them to really take advantage of the ground to produce explosive movements. Older generation also had players that did it too, but not nearly as many as there are in today's game. That combined with all the other advances in fitness and equipment make for a very distance dominated sport now.
I've never understood how much hand action at the point of contact one should make with the driver. Your concept of pulling the driver out of the ground seems to show NO hand and wrist action. Some other teachers on videos seem to advocate an upward "right hand slapping" motion, others seem to still talk about the "rolling over of the wrists or forearms" creating flash speed at the bottom. Can you clarify what your hands and wrists are doing in the milliseconds just prior to contact and after contact. Is there a dynamic movement that is both squaring the club face AND adding a snap or power. Thanks
@@longherlongball1011 They're extending, rotating, and down cocking, but you've got no chance to affect any of that milliseconds before impact. You'll never hear us say there is no hand or wrist action because there is. In fact, we've done more than one video on how early that needs to start. Which goes back to the milliseconds part of what you said and why I asked the question.
For me the impact snap training aid is one of the best training aids for how the hands and wrists move through impact. It helps a lot. This is gonna be very difficult to elaborate in words.
i don't think the "kick back" is attainable to the majority of golfers. when you get into the angle of attack, really you don't want to think about launching the clubhead or even releasing the clubhead. as far as the right arm is concerned, a player only needs to activate the muscles in the left side of the right arm to release the arm thru. this, for me, is why the tommy fleetwood, henrik stenson type pre-swing is key. it's a pete cowen idea. he learned this from using an air resistance implement i gave him. but, with further regard to the kick back, most players will duff the ball if they try to do this. and, rory does have move up onto his toes to avoid hitting the ground with his club. and, in his interview with feherty, he did say that he had discovered that his club actually decelerated in the hitting area, and that he needed to more on his left side.
You guys have such great content for free i'm most likely going to join formally just to support you but what exactly is in the locked content. You typically seem to brush on that quickly but not explain the 'member benefits' in any detail.
We have a lot in the membership, but the highlights would be the step-by-step "how to" training series covering many of the topics we've touched on here on our youtube channel. Just as a heads up... pricing is scheduled to go up in January. If you join before that happens, you'll be locked in at the price you sign up under😊
Guys! On the first drill, it feels like the club face will be a bit too open. What do you tell folks to do to square it up as you do this drill? Right palm down? More rotation! Thanks!
Don't ever recall have to say anything. Our experience has been the golfer intuitively adjusts based on where they see the ball start, and they typically do it pretty quickly.
Been practicing the water hose drill at the urinal and it seems to work. Bye the way , why do most restrooms have two different height urinals? I'm thinking the higher one is for white players and the lower one for black players. Just joking around!
I just turned 66 and for a better turn, I started raising my left heel on the backswing. Will this drill still work for my swing? Most golfers keep the left heel down.
You're certainly entitled to that opinion, just be aware that it is incorrect. 1. Strength has nothing to do with this topic. 2. His mass moves exactly as discussed in this video because we are sharing what's been measured. Not even debatable, the data is black and white.
@@AthleticMotionGolf You're not going to hit it long like Rory unless you are strong like Rory. Let's see your data. Foot pressure on the pressure pad won't cut it because it's not measuring center of mass.
@@longgolf5530 "Really really strong" means absolutely nothing. Strong compared to what? He was hitting it long way before he got stronger. You're also way out of your depth here. Force plates can and do track the golfer's center of mass. GEARS 3D also tracks the individual body centers, so yep, we know exactly what they're doing at every point of the swing. What he does and what we can track isn't up for debate.
@@AthleticMotionGolf You don't need a device to watch center of mass. Just watch the swing. It's perfectly clear for everyone to see. And where's your data. Everybody knows that hitting up on the ball is longer. Flightscope? This is all old hat. Nobody needs you to describe Rory McIlroy's swing. And please explain how your pressure pad force plates measure center of mass.
@@longgolf5530 you're all over the place. You do need a device to measure and track the centers of mass. We use them. We've shown many examples here on our channel. Who in the world said anything about Flightscope? lol Apparently, you need some help with the description of his swing if you don't think his mass moves. If you're interested in learning about what real force plates (not a pressure mat) can measure, go invest the time and money and learn about it yourself as we have. The same goes for all the 3D data. Please stop confidently throwing out ridiculous nonsense that can easily be proven wrong. Here's an idea, post his swing on your channel and make the case that he doesn't move his mass. Good luck with that. But on this channel, this silly debate has run its course.
Wow... how confusing. Standing up at or before impact ? Same lateral shift for centre hips and chest... although head stays still... or is it a slide... to be avoided ? Put Rory into your Computer Program :)
I will never understand why pretty much every teacher, including yourselves, feels the need to over exaggerate the way amateurs swing the club. Maybe it is just me, but I find it extremely annoying.
On what planet is18 PGA Tour wins, 14 European Tour wins, 4 majors, a Player's Championship, 3 world golf championships, and 2 FedEx Cups hardly ever winning anything?????
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Wow just went to driving range and put this in to practice. Theres a mound there set at 250y that I could only hit with my driver set at 12 degrees. I always knew about sway and weight shift but I never understood the sway and more importantly the sequencing of the sway. I was always of trying to set up in the k position. Well I can’t believe it I ball is carrying over the mound and landing 20 yards past. I quickly put it back to 9 degrees. OMG it for the first time ever I got a penetrating flight that carried 40 yards past the 250 yard mound. This is with range balls. I was obviously too steep before but now I am sweeping it off the tee. Thanks Guys.
That's awesome, Ken! Great work there putting it to use💪
Tiger's early swing had this "shift"/" perceived sway that we often tried to copy, but never understood the concept of spin "centeredness". Great video, clarity to a long-standing issue for me and I suspect many others.. Thanks
The comment you guys made, "throwing the head at the ball not the hands", organized my weight pretty well by itself Then posting up with the lead leg and pushing the shoulder back took it to another level. I was smashing it as far as my normal driver swing but at a medium speed. I now need to drill this in at low/medium speed so I can go all out at it. When I tried at full tilt on my simulator today I would pull hook it a bit. Its just a matter of time before I'll be able to organize this pattern at full speed. Thanks..
Awesome video, i have done this wrong for years and have not been able to get it right you have described a great way to work on this.
Great job as usual.
You guys got chemistry... you got the passionate guy and the serious guy... laurel and hardy... pressure in my left leg spins my left hip, whack, fairway every time
I have been 3/4 there. The movement forward before push back was what I have been missing. Aha moment for sure! Thanks!
Another swing thought is keeping the shoulders and arms in sync with the hips. One of the hazards in spinning the hips fast is the arms falling behind and losing the swing angle for direct ball contact.
Yep, we very much dislike the idea of "firing the hips"
which is easily one of the worst ideas to come down the pipe in the game.
Always been a kelnhofer guy, this is a different move. Open to new ideas with new technology.
We always reserve the right to get smarter too😊
Greatest video ever from AMG. Light bulb went off. This sealed it for me. Thank you!!
I thought it went on ! 😜
All really good stuff here. I see a lot of people struggle with stopping the lateral forward shift (putting on the brakes) to the be able to move up. One of the things I’ve noticed that Rory does is that he has a late turn in his backswing during his re-centering phase which then positions his shoulders in a square to more closed position. Do you think that having his body more in that position helps him to (put on the brakes laterally) so he doesn’t keep moving laterally and he can come up?
The drill is exactly what I needed!
Good to know shifting body while keeping spin vertical, will try it ...
I watched a video of Rory showing some fellas how to hit it farther. The biggest takeaway was how far he stands from the ball. He put the ball on a tee and then put a tee on the ground to mark their foot position. Each guy said they were reaching for the ball. Rory said it allows him to get behind the ball.
Really love your training videos, just extremely helpful. Watch every one that comes up. My only questions is, why is that golf ball that appears at the beginning of AMG videos so dirty looking and, based on the dimple pattern, so out of date looking? Looks like one of those balls recovered from the lake at a driving range after being submerged for a year. We your fans need to find you a prettier, newer looking ball. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you for all the great advice and drills.
haha, we don't have the tech skills to clean it. We do have a new intro coming😊
I think he pulls back a little when he takes the club away because he is throwing his arms and club up together as one unit, and his body is sort of reacting to what it's about to do. When I try this on the range, I literally hit 15-20 yards further than a stock iron shot, but because it's not natural to me it's as little unpredictable. I also noticed that he lifts his left heel a tiny bit and replants it, and there's a little funny head twitch in there around transition or impact somewhere. Such a great movement though, it's pretty to watch.
Hi chaps. Another great video. QUESTION... Does the same rule regarding the slight shift of both upper and lower centres apply with irons. Thanks.
Very much so! We did the same type of video for Rory's iron swing as well. You'll be able to see the differences between the two in there👍
I really like what you guys are doing. Thanks so much.
Great video. Would love to see a video on the relationship between the head/chest/hips lateral movement. I get a good low point and head position too far forward or head position is good and I get the ball
So I've got an analysis idea for you two:
I have a theory that the lead leg moves a certain way at transition re the knee and hip joints, ie fkexions/extensions.
I think in the best motions the lead hip fkexes at transition while the knee holds steady or slightly begins extension at transition.
Have you two ever looked at this?
I think that flexing the knee at transition actually causes hip extension, exactly what we don't want. It also occured to me that the lead hip will move back when doing this correctly, exactly what we do want. I watched a few hours of the great strikers and I think I'm seeing it right.
The so called "sit down move" doesn't include more lead knee flex, in effect we are replacing a slight left hip extension that occurs in the pivot to the top.
My theory is that "early extension" is actually a function of not putting the hip flexion back in at transition.
Tough to explain, but I'd be really curious what gears shows on this.
When I consciously seperate the knee and hip joint motions at transition like this, good things happen. The non flexing or slightly extending knee pressures the lead hip back as you add flex.
Hope I interested you guys in a look at this!
I think you're on the right track there with the lead side hip knee.👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf That's exciting to hear! It's a subtle thing but I thinkt it might be really critical. And it's not hard to do once you're aware and so many good things happen then.
Hope you guys see what gears shows. Thanks!
Thanks guys! Pure gold!!
Thanks bud!
I understand the importance of a proper weight shift but I am having trouble coordinating that with flattening the club (getting it in the slot). When I do the drill my right shoulder seems to move out and then around (not under) and I seem to throw my hands (or the right hand takes over). It would be great to have a follow-up video on how to lower the club properly while doing this drill. Any suggestions?
That's the key. You've gotta go slow enough to coordinate the club lowering while doing this. After that, the speed can increase.
Great Video guys!!!!!
👊🙏
Well done Gents ! Very informative and helpful..... Bravo !
Does the same concept of lateral movement and left leg straightening along with left shoulder pulling back also apply to irons
That's pretty much a golf swing thing, Mike. We have an iron video on Rory's swing coming out so you'll be able to see the differences.
How about a video showing the pressure mat ground forces that Rory McIlroy creates throughout the various weight shift phases of his entire swing?
Great idea, what would you expect you’d see?
@@AthleticMotionGolf you would see the weight put into the back foot initially, probably 40-50% and as the club starts on the down swing a shift of weight forward to 90% as you drive your leading foot into the ground and as the club makes impact with the ball. Maybe I'm off a little bit but I know when I hit monster drives I initially drive my back foot into the ground on the back swing and my front foot gets pushed into the ground on my down swing.
Great video, very insightful
Thanks for watching, Conor🙏
Always felt like I wasn't finishing my swing. The left shoulder....makes so much sense! Thank you!
Awesome, hope this helps!
great drill for the feel! another ah ha moment thanks fellas
As the hips turn through impact, is having the lead leg straighten recommended for both irons and driver? Thank you for all of the amazing videos.
Yessir
Great video very enjoyable to watch.
I grew up watching the likes of Norman, Faldo, Price, Ballesteros,Lyle, by no means we're these guys weak,but would like to understand why the players now on both European Tour and PGA Tour are so much longer off the tee and particularly longer wth the irons,I know working out in the Gym helps but is there something else.
They are positioning their bodies (as a group) in ways that allow them to really take advantage of the ground to produce explosive movements. Older generation also had players that did it too, but not nearly as many as there are in today's game. That combined with all the other advances in fitness and equipment make for a very distance dominated sport now.
Wow excellent.
thanks for watching!
Would you apply this motion to hitting irons? With the ball further back to not be hitting up?
is there any push from the right foot
Great video
I've never understood how much hand action at the point of contact one should make with the driver. Your concept of pulling the driver out of the ground seems to show NO hand and wrist action. Some other teachers on videos seem to advocate an upward "right hand slapping" motion, others seem to still talk about the "rolling over of the wrists or forearms" creating flash speed at the bottom. Can you clarify what your hands and wrists are doing in the milliseconds just prior to contact and after contact. Is there a dynamic movement that is both squaring the club face AND adding a snap or power. Thanks
Are you asking what you should be doing in the few milliseconds before impact?
@@AthleticMotionGolf Yes...specifically what the hands and wrists are doing. I can't say it any better than I've said it above
@@longherlongball1011 They're extending, rotating, and down cocking, but you've got no chance to affect any of that milliseconds before impact. You'll never hear us say there is no hand or wrist action because there is. In fact, we've done more than one video on how early that needs to start. Which goes back to the milliseconds part of what you said and why I asked the question.
For me the impact snap training aid is one of the best training aids for how the hands and wrists move through impact. It helps a lot. This is gonna be very difficult to elaborate in words.
In the water
That's really hard to shift forward and transition and keeping your head behind the ball, through to impact
You guys failed to mention Rory also straightens out his right leg along with his left.
13:41 "Two inches isn't a lot."
Me: Well It's hell at 90 mph.
That’s what she said.
@@jacobwaldrop9222 nice
i don't think the "kick back" is attainable to the majority of golfers. when you get into the angle of attack, really you don't want to think about launching the clubhead or even releasing the clubhead. as far as the right arm is concerned, a player only needs to activate the muscles in the left side of the right arm to release the arm thru. this, for me, is why the tommy fleetwood, henrik stenson type pre-swing is key. it's a pete cowen idea. he learned this from using an air resistance implement i gave him. but, with further regard to the kick back, most players will duff the ball if they try to do this. and, rory does have move up onto his toes to avoid hitting the ground with his club. and, in his interview with feherty, he did say that he had discovered that his club actually decelerated in the hitting area, and that he needed to more on his left side.
Still holding some lag at impact?
Pure Gold
Rory's swing seems to incorporate the Mike Austin principles.
I did it
You guys have such great content for free i'm most likely going to join formally just to support you but what exactly is in the locked content. You typically seem to brush on that quickly but not explain the 'member benefits' in any detail.
We have a lot in the membership, but the highlights would be the step-by-step "how to" training series covering many of the topics we've touched on here on our youtube channel. Just as a heads up... pricing is scheduled to go up in January. If you join before that happens, you'll be locked in at the price you sign up under😊
Video of Rory would have been nice to see.
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Guys! On the first drill, it feels like the club face will be a bit too open. What do you tell folks to do to square it up as you do this drill? Right palm down? More rotation! Thanks!
Don't ever recall have to say anything. Our experience has been the golfer intuitively adjusts based on where they see the ball start, and they typically do it pretty quickly.
Been practicing the water hose drill at the urinal and it seems to work.
Bye the way , why do most restrooms have two different height urinals?
I'm thinking the higher one is for white players and the lower one for black players.
Just joking around!
No the sort one is for “guy’s” that spend a lot of time on their knees in the men’s room.
Confused 🤷♂️
I just turned 66 and for a better turn, I started raising my left heel on the backswing. Will this drill still work for my swing? Most golfers keep the left heel down.
You can lift the heel :)
Where are you guys,
AZ?
In ping pong they call me el gato.
Mostly me but still. I’m the el gato of ping pong. Just so we all know. You can call me that.
Rory is really really strong. And he doesn't shift his weight. His center of mass stays centered.
You're certainly entitled to that opinion, just be aware that it is incorrect. 1. Strength has nothing to do with this topic. 2. His mass moves exactly as discussed in this video because we are sharing what's been measured. Not even debatable, the data is black and white.
@@AthleticMotionGolf You're not going to hit it long like Rory unless you are strong like Rory. Let's see your data. Foot pressure on the pressure pad won't cut it because it's not measuring center of mass.
@@longgolf5530 "Really really strong" means absolutely nothing. Strong compared to what? He was hitting it long way before he got stronger.
You're also way out of your depth here. Force plates can and do track the golfer's center of mass. GEARS 3D also tracks the individual body centers, so yep, we know exactly what they're doing at every point of the swing. What he does and what we can track isn't up for debate.
@@AthleticMotionGolf You don't need a device to watch center of mass. Just watch the swing. It's perfectly clear for everyone to see. And where's your data. Everybody knows that hitting up on the ball is longer. Flightscope? This is all old hat. Nobody needs you to describe Rory McIlroy's swing. And please explain how your pressure pad force plates measure center of mass.
@@longgolf5530 you're all over the place. You do need a device to measure and track the centers of mass. We use them. We've shown many examples here on our channel.
Who in the world said anything about Flightscope? lol
Apparently, you need some help with the description of his swing if you don't think his mass moves.
If you're interested in learning about what real force plates (not a pressure mat) can measure, go invest the time and money and learn about it yourself as we have. The same goes for all the 3D data. Please stop confidently throwing out ridiculous nonsense that can easily be proven wrong.
Here's an idea, post his swing on your channel and make the case that he doesn't move his mass. Good luck with that. But on this channel, this silly debate has run its course.
Wow... how confusing. Standing up at or before impact ? Same lateral shift for centre hips and chest... although head stays still... or is it a slide... to be avoided ? Put Rory into your Computer Program :)
I will never understand why pretty much every teacher, including yourselves, feels the need to over exaggerate the way amateurs swing the club. Maybe it is just me, but I find it extremely annoying.
Yea, drive the ball like rory and hardly ever win anything
On what planet is18 PGA Tour wins, 14 European Tour wins, 4 majors, a Player's Championship, 3 world golf championships, and 2 FedEx Cups hardly ever winning anything?????