The Slavery Debate: African American Origins & Indigenous Identity | Podcast Discussion

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  • Dive deep into the complex history of Black people in America with our latest podcast debate. In this episode, we explore two contrasting viewpoints on the origins of African Americans and the roots of slavery in America.
    One perspective argues that Black people are descendants of Africans who were forcibly brought to America as slaves. This narrative delves into the transatlantic slave trade, the Civil War, and pivotal moments in African American history, including Juneteenth and the ongoing struggle for civil rights.
    On the other side of the debate, an alternative viewpoint posits that Black people are indigenous to America, tracing their ancestry back to pre-colonial times. This perspective challenges conventional narratives, suggesting that slavery stemmed from the conquest of Indigenous peoples and their subsequent enslavement as prisoners of war.
    Join us as we unpack these contrasting perspectives, delving into American history, Black history, and the broader debate on race and identity. Whether you're interested in the complexities of American history, the origins of race, or the ongoing discourse surrounding Black identity, this podcast episode offers valuable insights into the multifaceted nature of the slavery debate.
    Keywords: Slavery Debate, African American, Juneteenth, Native American, American History, Black people, Indigenous people, Civil War, Black History, Race Debate, History Of Race
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  • @Robert-oh3pk
    @Robert-oh3pk 3 місяці тому +2

    Walter Placard changed in our racial identity.

  • @Hismana-oi4yx
    @Hismana-oi4yx 3 місяці тому +3

    An Inquiry Into the Distinctive Characteristics of the Aboriginal Race of America
    by Samuel George Morton
    It cannot be questioned that physical diversities do occur, equally singular and inexplicable, as seen in different shades of color, varying from a fair tint to a complexion almost black; and this too under circumstances in which climate can have little or no influence. So also in reference to stature, the differences are remarkable in entire tribes which, more over, are geographically proximate to each other. These facts, however, are mere exceptions to a general rule, and do not alter the peculiar physiognomy of the Indian, which is as undeviatingly characteristic as that of the Negro; for whether we see him in the athletic Charib or the stunted Chayma, in the dark Californian or the fair Borroa, he is an Indian still.

    • @TshirtKingsElyon
      @TshirtKingsElyon  3 місяці тому

      So you’re saying black are indigenous and not African?

    • @Hismana-oi4yx
      @Hismana-oi4yx 3 місяці тому

      I am saying what our people have always said. If you have that african in you. That is a rare occasion and you are not us. Much like today it is rare to find any of our people mixing with some africans. Or carribeans or latinos or white. We generally mix with our own. Do you know what "Indian" Bread is? We all have the Native Americans to thank for corn bread. Its humble beginnings can be traced back to the Indians that the European settlers came in contact with when they first arrived in America. However, it stands to reason that the Native Americans have been making corn bread long before that.
      The Indians used corn ground into meal and flour for years in their cooking.
      Peep how slick they are with the words. Kill the Indian save the man is real. They gave our shit to "natives"
      *American Indian Corn Bread
      A very popular dish to this day and also a very common food among many( Native American tribes) is the delicious "American Indian" corn bread. The Native Americans made the American Indian corn bread from ground corn, salt and water

    • @Hismana-oi4yx
      @Hismana-oi4yx 3 місяці тому +1

      Old girl loud wrong for no reason

    • @TshirtKingsElyon
      @TshirtKingsElyon  3 місяці тому

      @@Hismana-oi4yx what was she wrong about

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      All of stages of the development of human beings not man kind but human being's were in Africa every stages Homo-Habillis, Homo-Erectus and the modern day human being's Homo-Sapien all had there beginnings in Africa unless you are some other species i would like to know what species you might be

  • @Joe00Cool187
    @Joe00Cool187 3 місяці тому +2

    Like it or not, YOU/WE African.

    • @TshirtKingsElyon
      @TshirtKingsElyon  3 місяці тому +1

      Boyz in the Hood

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      Totally disagree‼️ To say that is only based on speculation, not proven‼️

    • @MrReedGrantberry
      @MrReedGrantberry 3 місяці тому +2

      Every human is African. The delineation is here before 1776 or not.

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MrReedGrantberryGot Proof⁉️ No speculation, only proof‼️

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      @philenery5644 show your proof stop asking people for their's and show your

  • @petermorton301
    @petermorton301 3 місяці тому +1

    Who is Dr.Kihura Nkuba?

  • @petermorton301
    @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

    I only debate my equal everyone else i teach📚. By Dr.John Henrik Clarke

  • @philemery5644
    @philemery5644 3 місяці тому +2

    Genealogy Records! National Archives USA Census and elders of your family that was born pre-1950s! Don’t believe not 1 word I spoke do actual Government Documents! Our ancestors were Here, not Africa

    • @TshirtKingsElyon
      @TshirtKingsElyon  3 місяці тому +2

      What about what Dr.Huggins saying her family came from Africa

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      Maybe they did! However, what makes a person sure if the research on their linage? Shoutout to Dr Huggins 💪🏾

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      Silver Dollar Road movie on Prime‼️

    • @buckisz
      @buckisz 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TshirtKingsElyon She cannot prove that unless she came from Africa. Ask her what part of the continent and what is the name of the tribe and has she met any relatives from over there. These pan-Africans are grifters who are working with the enemy to validate the lie. And the idea was created by yt folks/youwish people just like the NAACP and all other organizations that deal with us the indigenous people of this land. Marcus Garvey, Dubois were working for the establishment to hide who you really are. look it up.

    • @Joe00Cool187
      @Joe00Cool187 3 місяці тому

      The record makers says otherwise.
      They admit to killing the majority of every person group that lived in north, central and south america.
      They have NO qualms with their crimes.
      Why are you SO opposed to being African?

  • @DashResource
    @DashResource 3 місяці тому

    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @petermorton301
    @petermorton301 3 місяці тому +1

    "It's time for Black people to stop playing the sperating game of geography, of where the slave ship put us down. We must concentrate on where the slave ship picked us up... African's in the America's must remember that the slave ships brought no West Indies, no Caribbean's, no Jamaicans or Trinidadians or Barbadians to this Hemisphere. The slave ships brought only African people and most of us took the semblance of Nationality from Places where slave ships Dropped us off." By Dr.John Henrik Clarke

    • @TshirtKingsElyon
      @TshirtKingsElyon  3 місяці тому

      So is this saying no slaves were taken to any of the places you named?

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      "No the slave ships brought no West Indies, no Caribbean's, no Jamaicans or Trinidadians or Barbadians to this Hemisphere. The slave ships brought only African people and most of us took the semblance of Nationality from Places where slave ships Dropped us off."

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      What is Xaymaca? The word Jamaica actually derived from the Arawak word Xaymaca, meaning "Land of wood and water."

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      Black people who think they're Jamaicans are not Jamaicans because the slave ships brought only African people and most of us took the semblance of Nationality from Places where slave ships Dropped us off

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      These are some of the things that Black/African people call themselves today but when the slave ships came they only brought African people

  • @petermorton301
    @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

    The first 1⃣ light of human consciousness and the world's first 1⃣ Civilization's were in Africa. By Dr.John Henrik Clarke

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      That’s opinion base (speculation) where is proof? American’s history (not US history) dates back farther than Africa’s! Actually a man from S Carolina have one of the oldest DNA 2nd to another American’s here in America! Look that up! History is History stop putting spins on it

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      Prove it

    • @petermorton301
      @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

      If America is older then Africa prove it i dont want to here this or that prove it if you confident in yourself prove it that's what we here you going to show me something other then what Dr.John Henrik Clarke showed me so you on Dr.John Henrik Clarke level may his soul rest in peace and may peace and blessings be upon his family

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      @@petermorton301 The question should be Prove your ancestors came from Africa 🤔! If the narrative is you’re a descendent of a slave, then you are! These folks done a number on us as a majority 🤦🏾‍♂️‼️

  • @petermorton301
    @petermorton301 3 місяці тому

    Wvery stage in the development humans being's not mankind but human being's had there beginnings in Africa Homo-Habillis, Homo-Erectus and Homo-Sapien all had there beginnings in Africa then they spreaded aboard so unless you are of some other species i would like to know Homo-Sapiens are the original modern day human being's and they come from Africa they are the only original people no earth🌄 unless you can find another original people besides them let me know

    • @philemery5644
      @philemery5644 3 місяці тому

      These folks done a number on our minds! 🤦🏾‍♂️