I thought you're going to make a fourth leg for her but instead you've alleviated the weight on the third leg, that is really genius, because she wouldn't need to relearn how to walk, but instead, just have less pain on her leg! You're awesome Simone!!!
@@OrloxPhoenix Comes back to what is best for scraps in this situation. Prosthetics are really hard to get right in humans and they can give verbal feedback on what feels good or not. With an animal all we can do is try a low impact solution and see if they react well to it; in this case as pesterenan said, Scraps doesn't need to learn how to walk with 4 legs, she gets around fine on 3 just with a little pain. If the pain can be alleviated and movement can be more smooth with her existing gait then thats all that needs to be done. Also its a hell of a lot easier to augment Scraps existing leg leaving her with a control scheme she understands and uses compared to trying to design a robotic motorised solution to the movement of an ankle that wouldnt hinder her as she is currently. Also that wouldn't way a metric fk ton and cause problems elsewhere in her hips etc.
SIMONE! Scraps might have a torn CCL (ACL in humans). I have a similar sized three-legged dog who started asking to be carried, and three separate vets all said "oh it's just sore, here's pain meds." Then BAM, completely torn and he needed surgery. The doctors all ignored the possibility of CCL tear because it's considered a "big dog problem." He had all the classic symptoms, especially sticking out his back leg to the side when sitting.
i just commented my story be4 reading urs....kinda makes me feel better about going against all the vets that wanted to amputate my dogs leg but i went against them....and it healed back up stronger than ever
@@neva.2764 yeah the (mostly farm) vet in my small town wanted to put my cat down when he was a kitten bc of kidney/liver issues (can't remember which, i was like 8). my mum got hella mad bc he was refusing to prescribe antibiotics, but eventually he did bc of how mad my mum was. luckily the vet went out of business not long after and we found a much better one an hour away. and my boy is very happy and healthy now, nearly 12 years old
My little dog behavior consultant heart leapt at “At least I know that Scraps is very good at saying ‘no’ to things. And she’s not saying no to this leg brace” Increasing choice and agency, and finding ways to ask our dogs if they’ll opt in to the things we choose to introduce in their lives is so often missing in the animal caretaking conversation. So glad to see it here.
Agreed, its really good. People need to pay more attention to what their pet needs, wants and feels (beyond the basic food shelter and water). If you are attentive and willing to solve problems in their environment (aka accomodate) then you can solve a lot of problems that people blame on dog breed and 'poor training' or "cat nature". Something i see people ignore the core reasons for a lot is aggression, "pitbulls are violent" "chihuahuas are always in a bad mood", "but they aren't bad if they're well trained!" These dialogues ignore the needs and feelings of the creature. Chihuahuas are given very little accomodation, are small and thus easily harmed, and not well accomodated. Pitbulls, rotweilers and other large "aggressive" dogs are generally neglected for the sake of keeping post, have painful body modifications done to them as pups, and are not given enough enrichment, or personal space. When a dog barks, people don't wonder what makes the dog bark. Is it boredom? Staking a claim to something? Is it afraid and being defensive? Is it asking for help? Is it irritated? People also don't pay real attention to animal body language. Its ironic, because i have autism and i read most creatures more easily than people. But it's a skill. Its not hard to learn, you just have to care, and most people don't seem to care. But yeah, pretty much all the needs we have apply to other animals in some way. They need enrichment, personal space and things to own for themself, they need excercise and attention, care, they need autonomy, they need to be allowed choices. And giving them this won't look the same as a human would need want or be capable of, so I'm not projecting/anthropomorphising either.
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 Any suggestions for how to deal with a cat that yowls loudly for no discernible reason? Like, extremely loudly. He's fixed, 7 years old, very affectionate. We try to pay enough attention to him to keep his cuddle tank full, but he can be very insistent on jumping into your lap at inconvenient times and won't accept merely a bit of petting on the floor. He is particularly vocal following meals (which come by way of an automatic feeder, and he sits in anticipation for at each dispensing). Other times, he can be fresh off a cuddle session, but we put him down, and he leaves, walking down the hall screaming loudly, often unwilling to even come when we attempt to call him in with one of us to give him the attention he seems to be asking for. It's very upsetting for my wife who is on the autism spectrum and has some auditory sensory issues. We've tried scolding, we've tried ignoring completely, and we've tried responding by offering attention, and nothing works consistently. We're kind of out of ideas. He's not a bad cat, but this habit of screaming his way down the hall is something that really causes us some distress.
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 absolutely! the general population is really bad at actually reading animal body language. my dog has a very minor fear reactivity, only if a stranger attempts to pet him on his head. I have narrowed this down by watching him interact with strangers. my mom sees it as "the dog is mad" and "why did he try to bite that man" whereas I see it as "the man made a fast and aggressive movement, the dog got scared, and snapped the air as a warning that it was scared" the whole "oh he's friendly, look his tail is wagging" thing really irks me too. i would love to see more general knowledge reaching people about these things!
@@jlt131 mhm agreed. Something to note too, is that fear reactions work in a process of elimination. If you can't freeze or run, or charm, then you fight. A dog on a leash can't run, and most dogs have been taught that they have to interact with people if their owner says so or stops to talk to them, and if they're being touched by that person, they are already too vulnerable to freeze (becausefreeze response if for hiding, avoiding being seen and plotting a way to deal with the situation.) If the dog is being touched, well, being nice and charming will only result in more of that. So all the dog has left is to fight, to react aggressively in that scenario. Many people use their pet as a tool in some capacity, even subconsciously. a common one is their dog as a means of starting a social interaction, which in turn may further other wants (such as getting to know people in the neighborhood, getting attention, or making alliances/friends. Ive seen people use it as a way of gathering gossip too, which they might later use to exert control over others or entertain themselves.) A thing about humans using things as tools, is we tend to ignore the tool's needs whenever they're inconvenient.
This video hit so close to home. I got my college degree in mechanical engineering, and for my capstone project we built a canine exoskeleton to aid in rehabilitation. Being a long-time fan and having you as such an inspiration through those college years as a woman in stem, and then seeing this video pop up was such a full-circle moment. Thank you for doing what you do!!
Bionicpets would be a good shout as well for seeing some of the challenges they overcome when building robotic legs.. while I do agree with a lot of people that we are not yet there mechanically for things like equine as the legs don't really aid them health wise as much as with smaller animals as the cons become more and more of a burden, but it is an absolute wonder anytime I see people working either within the boundaries of what legs and even oddities like beaks can be done mechanically I also love seeing people trying to experiment to expand what they can do to include animals like equine who are currently too complicated.
@@Reptile_Gecko ... You can't rehab a horse with a broken leg, because you can't get the horse to stop being a horse. Horses like to run. They Live to Run. A dog cares more about having fun with you than it does it's own health more for the moment than the future. Human children act the same way. You had to brainwash your subject to get it to accept your help. The odds that the tech developed by exoskeletons is way more likely to be turned against fellow humans than it will be to help a Dog. Fluffy snags on everything in your beach bag with it's new outfit on... Or "Butch" did a hell of a job clearing out that homeless encampment?
Scraps' whole vibe is immaculate: Will eventually become accustomed to a robot leg brace, absolutely will not wear an unremarkable dog harness. Scraps has opinions, and I'm here to respect and appreciate them!
You can tell how even the little bit of torc improved how she moved and how reduced the stress to that leg was. Look out for joint support and locking joints if they’re not in the best position. these can be issues for humans so I’d assume they can be issues for dogs too. You’re a rockstar Simone!
This is such a smart idea, because i think when most people think of ways to help amputees; human, dog, or otherwise; we fixate on the idea of prosthetic replacements. But that's not always a viable solution, both because we don't have the technology to make prosthetics that can fully replace a limb in terms of movement, and in the case of animals especially we don't have the ability to clearly communicate if something is working or not. But by helping to enhance and support the remaining limb, especially since scraps can still move around without too much trouble on her three legs already, you're clearly optimizing the situation for the best results. I seem to notice a lot of the time when approaching any disability, mental or physical, there tends to be a belief that the best way to help is to "fix" whatever is "broken" by making things work the same way they would for an abled person. But that isn't always helpful, and can even make things worse. Scraps doesn't need a fourth leg in order for you to help give support to her existing limbs. You've solved the problem without forcing her to look "normal". And that's an attitude and perspective that needs to be used in order to properly help people. (Not at all an expert on anything here just stating an opinion)
You're absolutely right. It's such a hard notion to shake off, both for people more involved in it I imagine and for the average layperson, because our culture (and I reckon most other modern cultures as well) has these ideas ingrained into us in a million different ways. From Jesus Christ curing blindness or lameness, to cybernetic replacements/augmentations of limbs & body parts in pop culture, all the way through the current medical technologies and aspirations of transplants, artificial organs, etc. We're fixated on 'fixing' things instead of making sure we're _making things better._
This is a great way to put it. I've always disliked when some people are like "Oh prosthetics are bad actually because they imply we're worse for not having them" or something, cause while I understand the idea, it's just a terrible and divisive way to phrase it/go about it. Sometimes a replacement is the best solution, but sometimes it isn't. Doesn't mean replacements aren't great, but we need to consider case by case. We often go about it by thinking of prosthetics as "reversing the problem", but it's not; it's creating a solution or aid, and there's a lot of ways of going about a solution that each have their own pros and cons.
The two of you were destined for one another from the beginning. How cool is that, and how lucky is Scraps to have a parent who's not only a maker, but someone who's as super kind and caring as you are?
"It's a high tech prosthesis. That's actually the most apt description I can make of it." The name Scraps seems oddly poignant here. I wonder if Simone was planning something like this since she adopted her.
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages" ~ Shakespeare
This whole video and Simone struggling but still continuing because she adores Scraps….it’s literally every dog parent ever (plus her extra brains of course)
Brilliant! Truly brilliant! After a million years in vet medicine, I've seen only one successful prosthetic on a dog and it took thousands of dollars and infinite patience from the owner, doctors and dog to achieve fitment, but this is just so much smarter! Solving for the actual problem which is fatigue, not the abnormal anatomy, which works just fine for Scraps. Simone's brain is an absolute treasure.
Those crazy people from our past... More interested in an animals Spinal Health and the Unbalanced Fatigue of earning the nickname, "tripod." If you are going to ignore your alignment, it will cost you big money to attempt to fix it. This device puts more strain on the side of the spine that is already overused, and ignores the underdeveloped side. Disks will wear lopsided, and verves that control the tail, leg(s), and what (normally) lies between will fail. Brilliant? Someone forget how one end was connected to the other?
OK, but... How did you actually make the brace and set it up? It's nice to see how the dog trained and accepted it, but what is it and how does it work?
@@darkiee69 I am assuming the motor is set up to always turn in one direction with a set amount of torque and up to a certain position. Thus the motor would essentially act like a spring that you can control the tension of. Or slightly different assumption: The motor is set up to always return to a certain position (a straight leg) and does so with a set amount of torque again effectively acting like a spring.
@@mathismuller6033I should think you'd only want it acting once compression stops, so the latter? It's fun having little real knowledge and trying to figure it out but a real video on it would be cool.
@@Yewtewba That would indeed be quite helpful. But I don`t think it would only be turned on once compression stopped, because that would mean that Scraps would have to actively slow down the "drop" of her hind legs which would require more strength than if the motor did that for her. When I read the video title I thought she would construct a fourth leg for her, but I guess this solution is way more practical.
This is so sweet. I'm glad you're collecting data on her leg movement too, but make sure to have regular checkups with her vet too. They may notice potential issues with her leg brace that a layman might not!
An excellent point! I'm sure Simone is doing this, but it's a great reminder for viewers who maybe forget about the parts that happen behind the scenes. I think having the data available is going to be really helpful for the vet and for Simone being able to pick up on changes that might otherwise be missed. I know sometimes the vet has asked me "does your pet do X thing a lot" and it can be really difficult to figure out if they have been doing it more or less than usual lately. With a special needs pet it can also be hard when you are always paying attention and looking for signs of problems to see something and either worry that a problem is worsening when it's actually staying the same or the opposite where you know a problem exists and you don't notice symptoms gradually worsen. Having a quantitative measurement (like weight as an easy example everyone can track with their pet) can make a huge difference, especially with animals that naturally hide problems.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr This was my thought. A fourth leg would be better weight distribution, and overall less strain on the surviving joint. On the plus side, the "exo" could likely be modified to make a more functional replacement for the missing leg. Leave the current exo on, add fourth leg with exo support = profit?
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr Scraps would have to learn how to walk with the fourth leg without necessarily understanding what was going on. Humans relearning how to walk and function with prosthetics have difficulties and pains from it, but they can communicate in a way that Scraps can't and have a full understanding of what they're doing.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehrScraps would have to learn to rewalk at that point, which might be a bit uncomfortable to do depending on how old they are.
@@willowthywispit was mentioned that she is only 3 years old. Unfortunately she will have higher chances of arthritis and muscle imbalance together with strain will be high because of the fact that she only got 1 leg.
From someone who is so so so deeply into dog behavior and training, you did this so well. I'm shocked and amazed that people like you exist who truly care about your pup, physically and mentally. I hope this sweet girl gives you many long years of joy
I used to be a Vet. Tech. Ripped cruciate ligaments in the back leg are SUPER common (keep your dogs lean folks!) And the normal fix is surgical, and you have to normally do Both "knees". I can see this replacing surgery and helping the dog's ligaments heal while still keeping dog mobile. DO design it for being able to wear on left or right back leg, Simone !
I work in medical bracing for humans, there's lots of knee braces designed for stabilising knee ligament tears in humans and other than a total rupture the outcomes are usually very good with no surgery and lots of physio! Don't know dog anatomy, but I suspect the digitigrade knees would be difficult to stabilise as effectively. Definitely possible, though unpowered mechanical would be a much better option to powered and motorised imo
@cobraruler yes, but if someone else has a dog missing the left leg, or this is used as a preventative, having it fit EITHER leg seems to be worth designing for in early stages !
@@WarAdmiral0 correct, though grafts aren't perfect either and the complications can be bad. It's all very situation dependent, young patients or those who are very active probably will be better off with the surgery; but for most people it's less clear cut imo
Simone's invention ideas are like better executed, less dangerous versions of something that William Osman would come up with. Except they actually work lol.
What a wonderful mobility aid, I appreciate how much thought and research you put into this. Scraps is so lucky to have found her way to you, you two are clearly meant to be together ❤
You blow me away with every single video you make. Not only are you crazy creative and smart, but the way you interact with Scraps and respect her boundries is so beautiful to see. In my not at all expert opinion you do everything right with her, in every way. In short, you continue to be my absolute role model in life.
Once she is used to it and you know which torque she prefers, you could replace the motor with a torsion spring so she doesnt need to carry around the battery pack anymore^^
As others have said, I'd really love to see a follow-up with the stats, what works/doesn't, what changes you might make, etc etc...! I love your love for Scraps and hope this project's making a difference for you both ☺
So, I realise this isn't exactly super common, but if there was some way you'd be willing to small scale produce these, I'd buy one. My dog is a similar size to scraps, and is missing the exact same leg, and I've been trying to think of ways to help her out recently. Please please keep us updated on progress!!!
What has the vet said about her mobility? Humans can be very precious and concerned about missing legs on animals, but the majority of cats and dogs do very well on 3 legs! It's worth knowing that you only need to look into a solution if the vet is concerned about the remaining leg, e.g. wear and tear on the joint or the animal walking funny.
@OhSoUnicornly so far she's doing really well (she's 6/7, was found stray so don't know exactly) and they aren't worried currently, just say keep her lightweight, regular exercise and give her joint supplements, and we do all three 😊 but they are pretty certain she'll need some help at some point as her remaining back leg does have a luxating patella, just interested to see this as a possible option rather than just waiting until its bad enough to need wheels!
She seemed comfortable with the final result, and it will be interesting to see if it helps her to not get as tired. She sure was having fun playing with you at the end.
Scaps is so lucky to have an owner like you, who not only is able to make amazing things, but is willing to go above and beyond just for her comfort! 🥰
So many times, I've said to myself, 'This is the most amazing, satisfying, joy-bringing thing Simone has made yet!' Here we go again. Making an effort to make life better for someone you love is the best thing we can do.
So cute! I love the idea. There are a lot of dogs with "wheelchairs"--which would be the way to go as Scraps gets older because it's more passive--but for the young dog she is this is such a great solution! I had no idea that was where you were going to take it, but it's honestly brilliant! And the fact that you were able to get all the electronics to fit just on the one leg is wonderful. I just can't give you enough praise! You're also such a great dog owner! Patient, understanding, active, Scraps is in good hands.
For being 11 minutes, I didn't feel like I was anywhere near your process. Just sorta watched your dog do a few things. Maybe you're putting more on a patreon or something? Would have loved to see the app, or data, the motor, or simply see you showing the manual testing off of your doggo to see what it actually does.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine.
Noel Fitzpatrick, the Supervet in the UK, is the vet mentioned for his pioneering work on animal prosthetics. The degree of mobility he has managed to return to animals with lost limbs hasn't even been achieved in humans yet. His work on bone-attached Ti prosthetics is epic.
The ethical debate mentioned is also relevant, in some cases the harm vs help balance is very dubious, the operations are extremely intensive and require a lot of physical therapy and painful recovery afterwards, which is a lot to put an animal that can’t understand what’s going on through. bias disclaimer: i’ve had personal interaction with him and found him to be an arrogant wanker. he’s a very clever bloke, but he did also inspire the song ‘toxic’ by britney spears (true story!!!)
@@hannahpowell :O at the last bit. Whether or not true, the internet has certainly decided it is and it seems plausible. As for Fitzpatrick, your comment made me think of Charlie Teo, the controversial Australian neurosurgeon who thinks the sun shines out his arse. Looked on Wikipedia, apparently he's on the council of an Australian animal welfare group.
My sister works for the Royal Veterinary College London. The vets there have to clean up Noel Fitzpatrick’s mess when it doesn’t work out. They only show the success stories on the TV show, they don’t show when an animal has to have the bone graft prosthetic removed 😢She will also confirm that he is an arrogant wanker.
I'd love to have a LOT more information on how this works - I mean the mechanism and the control software - and on how you designed it, and your thinking going into it.
I know you could probably spend 10 hours talking about the mechanism, so understand not wanting to get too bogged down in it, but i was surprised that you almost completely glazed over how it functions. Maybe there’s another video coming?
I mean, i would like to have seen at least some of the construction. At this Level of explaination you could also just put a sock on your dogs body. And it was even less helpful for all the other dog owners who thought, man i could recreate this for my struggling dog. Martina from nerdforge made her prostetic for everyone to recreate for example.
9:09 in and I finally realized that the purpose was to help support her existing leg; not to make a replacement for the missing one. This build makes SOOOO much more sense to me now. 😂😅
Did you do a slowmo video from directly behind? I wonder how much of the issue is the offset of the force on her hip and knee due to one side doing all the work. It’s really touching how dedicated you are to giving this dog the best life possible in every aspect.
I feel like we are missing an ending, or at least a part 2. What is Scrap's reaction to more torque? Is she asking you to wear it more? What is the end result? I want to know more!
@@nekhumonta It's just an inertial dampener. So think of it like a spring but instead of mechanical it's using electromagnetism to create an adjustable spring effect in the leg. It doesn't force the dogs leg to move, it just reduces the amount of strain on the knee because of the lack of another hind leg. In the video showing Scrap's running, that one-leg push off after both front legs have left the ground, followed by her hind end coming down and impacting on one foot-it shows there is a lot of knee and ankle stress.
Omg!!! I wish you could make one for my cat Baloo. He lost his front leg this year and is slowing down quite a bit. I loved your video. We live in LA too. If you ever need another model or test object, Baloo is easy to work with ;)
I really appreciate how much effort was put into making sure Scraps was weighing in on decisions and being introduced to new things slowly. So cute and wholesome!
Beautiful and heartwarming. I would love to see a more technical dive into how the machine works. And also a follow up when Scraps has had some time with it.
Being an amputee myself (right arm above elbow) I know how hard it can be to adapt to a prosthesis.....and I understand what is going on....imagine not having a clue and all of a sudden having a prosthetic.....yet scraps literally takes it in her stride (pun intended) and makes it look easy. You have a very special dog there Simone
I’ve always wondered. if you were right handed before losing your right arm; is it easier to adapt to a prosthesis or to being left handed? my thought process being that personally my left hand is WEAK so I really don’t know. although I understand the answer may differ with the types of prosthesis.
@@LiterallyAllNamesAreTaken I was right handed. My story is a little unusual.....i didn't initially loose my right arm, I paralysed it. I had the arm amputated after about 5 years , and by then I had fully adapted to doing things one handed. I did try a prosthesis (actually I have 3 of them in the loft), but as I said I was fully adapted by then, so never found it worth the hassle and discomfort
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal. Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death.
Simone, you're such an inspiration. Your videos help me to look at problem-solving differently. You show that learning, researching and getting things done are a ton of fun. In a platform that rewards shallow constant uploads over well produced content, it's really relieving to have people like you keeping it interesting, thanks for that.
So happy to find your channel! I just retired after many years in IT tech support and it's great to see a woman finding tech solutions to problems. I hope the brace works out for you and Scraps. 👍
Would have been interesting to see more about how you made the device exactly and what your thought process was building it. The ending felt way too abrupt.
tbf while annoying I'm a little glad. Because if you show how to make it exactly then you run the risk of people making it but not listening to their dog as much which could be dangerous. This isn't a vet tested and trialed produced. Same as a human, you can experiment on yourself sometimes but you can't expand until it's passed safety tests and the like.
So excited for this project! Will this be open sourced? I would love to invest some time in to maybe adapting this for a harness system for other dogs that do accept harnesses or just mess around with it without a dog attached
I wish it showed us more about how it was done, the functions, the wiring, the process. I love the video of course, but it felt like it when from "We have this problem" to "I built this whatever and it didn't work" and then to "I built this better whatever and it works". Anyway, much love to Scraps, Simone and the show team. Love u all!
I feel like we are kind of missing the conclusion. "I made this thing, but I don't know how well it works yet". It almost felt like this was more of a way to educate people about when dogs say "no!"
This is so cool. I don't know why but until the very end I thought there was going to be some prosthesis for her missing leg, not just a support for her existing leg. I think if I was quizzed before the final product I would have not gotten a good grade lol. But this is really awesome, I'm excited to see some updates on how Scraps takes to the exoskeleton.
It's an interesting video but yes it may be good for the dog to help them but really they would need to go to a specialist vet in order to have any kind of prosthetics since it could really harm the dog I also hate it when people purposely dress the dogs up in things that they do not need Plus this person is not a proper electrician their dog Could easily get an electric shock with the device they made If that happens they could easily get sent to prison or jail and they would lose a dog Also even if dogs are fine or any other pet with clothing on them they may not be they may be too scared to let you to say that they do not want the clothing or whatever it is you dress them up in they may also be too scared to do anything to get the item of them so they may not always be happy even if they seem they are
soooo..... how exactly does it work? since the motor works as a spring, how does it redirect the force, and where? maybe im just brainlet but im confused
As someone who works in animal rescue and has a hard time placing 3 legged dogs this made me cry 😭 also the fact that you used a stuffed animal with the leg removed as a model had me laughing so hard
From the moment I understood the weakness of my paws… it disgusted me. I crave the strength and certainty of human steel: I aspire to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind woof to your flesh… as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the biomass you woof all day will wither, and you will beg to humans to save you; but I am already saved. For the machine is immortal. insert sick bass drop E V E N I N D E A T H, I S E R V E T H E W O O F M N I S S I A H
Our dog had a prosthetic for her malformed leg (it was shorter than the other legs and didn't have full mobility). If she didn't wear it, she would constantly scrape her leg on the ground. She used it from a young age and was very used to it. Since then she had to have the leg amputated as it was causing her pain, and now she gets around pretty well as a tripod, though she does tire out much faster, but at least her leg is no longer causing her pain.
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0:55 I think he's talking about Noel Fitzpatrick. If you are interested, he's the subject of some really cool TV Series (The Supervet and the Bionic Vet).
Will this work for my husky? She has both of her patellas luxated congenitally, she can still run but she limps after a while. :((( I feel bad bcos she just wants to have fun and have zoomies but she can't do it much
I absolutely love it that even if a lot of people don’t care about our earth and the animals there are some people who just do everything possible to give their pets the best life possible. Here in Germany some dogs have prosthetic paws and even legs. It’s easier if it’s just the paw because the joint is still there to attach a prostethic but it’s possible with a missing leg too. Maybe that would be an idea for Scraps too if the cyborg solution doesn’t help her enough
Any updates? Does the dog still wear it? Doesn’t it reduce the degrees of freedom? How is the timing? How long does the battery last? What would it take to make the prototype into a product? Did the leg heal / the pain reduce / the stamina come back? Looks like a fun project at first glance, but you probably learned a lot while doing it: a d not just about what your dog tolerates.
This made my heart melt, I'm such a doggo lover. Just wanting them to be happy and have a good life is something I can really relate with - Scraps seems to be a very happy girl by the end of this video, and, I don't care what other people might say, dogs really do understand when you try and do what is best for them, there is, a measurable amount of empathy between a doggo and their hoomans. She loves you Simone, and so do I x
Okay, I *totally* misunderstood what the video was about. I honestly thought you were giving Scraps a prosthetic 4th leg, not enhancing their existing rear one. My bad. Still an awesome video and build.
I love that you’re doing this, but you need to pay attention to her back. Essentially, you’re transferring stress from one joint to another: her left hip rather than the knee. Watch the extra twist this introduces to her spine. I hurt my knee and was on crutches for about six months. Even with the crutches, I started having hip and knee pain on the other side. Look at it all as a system, rather than a single stress point. Like roof joists, the stress of the load gets transferred around. I think a prosthetic would be better in the long term. A shaped flexible cushioned plate from ribs to belly, and the leg portion having support going around the right hip and strapped to the left. The prosthetic leg itself, spring loaded at joints, with a limited knee pivot, and each part attached laterally to the left leg to guide forward motion. An added benefit is without the electronics, you aren’t putting more weight on her to carry.
Does anyone happen to know what the ethical arguments regarding prosthetics for animals are? My only guess would be if it is something relating to making them uncomfortable for the sake of "looking normal" but there are so many things that can affect animals quality of life and I would think that as long as the thing is added to help compensate for something that could be causing a detriment, it is ethical. Obviously if an animal is constantly distressed by wearing something, of course that is worse, but done lovingly and in the animal's best interest and taking their feedback seriously should do the trick. I have seen some amazing things from a lego wheel structure for a kitten to a 3D printed beak for a duck that lost it's upper beak and couldn't eat properly to this which could help reduce pain and wear and tear on the joints since one leg is taking the force that would normally be spread between 2. I would think it would be similar to treating a child, if it bothers them more than it helps their quality of life, ok take it off. It seems like the only ethics would be just being very in tune with the animal and be willing to make changes when they reject something, like in this video. Honestly this could probably be patented as losing a leg is not that uncommon as an injury for pets.
A spring should be all that is needed , not a motor. The lower hind legs of quadripeds use the connective tissues as energy storage. The muscles that power the stride are in the back and rump. lower leg amputee athletes do very well with a carbon fibre "blade" which is just a spring. In some cases they out perform non-amputee runners
I thought you're going to make a fourth leg for her but instead you've alleviated the weight on the third leg, that is really genius, because she wouldn't need to relearn how to walk, but instead, just have less pain on her leg! You're awesome Simone!!!
I was wondering how Simone was going to solve the control problem for a new leg. Turns out she didn't need to if she puts it on the existing leg.
I think everyone expected prosthetics, but what we got was way better.
@@jwalster9412 I was expecting a prosthetic leg but then felt dumb after realizing it was, as advertised, an exoskeleton
Why not both? Like... An exoleg or something 🤔
@@OrloxPhoenix Comes back to what is best for scraps in this situation. Prosthetics are really hard to get right in humans and they can give verbal feedback on what feels good or not. With an animal all we can do is try a low impact solution and see if they react well to it; in this case as pesterenan said, Scraps doesn't need to learn how to walk with 4 legs, she gets around fine on 3 just with a little pain. If the pain can be alleviated and movement can be more smooth with her existing gait then thats all that needs to be done.
Also its a hell of a lot easier to augment Scraps existing leg leaving her with a control scheme she understands and uses compared to trying to design a robotic motorised solution to the movement of an ankle that wouldnt hinder her as she is currently. Also that wouldn't way a metric fk ton and cause problems elsewhere in her hips etc.
SIMONE! Scraps might have a torn CCL (ACL in humans). I have a similar sized three-legged dog who started asking to be carried, and three separate vets all said "oh it's just sore, here's pain meds." Then BAM, completely torn and he needed surgery. The doctors all ignored the possibility of CCL tear because it's considered a "big dog problem." He had all the classic symptoms, especially sticking out his back leg to the side when sitting.
Yes! My German Shepard did. She ended up getting an artificial ligament. They aren’t available for humans but it worked great for her.
i just commented my story be4 reading urs....kinda makes me feel better about going against all the vets that wanted to amputate my dogs leg but i went against them....and it healed back up stronger than ever
My 54 BL dog had this happen too. It is definitely not a big dog issue. It took 3 vets to figure it out (which is rediculous).
As far as diagnostics vets aren't better than human doctors. They too tend to treat symptoms instead of wanting to find the problem.
@@neva.2764 yeah the (mostly farm) vet in my small town wanted to put my cat down when he was a kitten bc of kidney/liver issues (can't remember which, i was like 8). my mum got hella mad bc he was refusing to prescribe antibiotics, but eventually he did bc of how mad my mum was. luckily the vet went out of business not long after and we found a much better one an hour away. and my boy is very happy and healthy now, nearly 12 years old
So Scraps is now… a cybork?! 😍🤣
I'd say a "cybark"
Maybe a CyPup?
I love this kind of humor
@@grfxdznrKyle FYI "bork" is doggo meme-speak for "bark," so it's way funnier the original way, if you're in certain internet circles.
Agh this is so cute
she looks so happy 🥺 hope the exoskeleton improves her quality of life!
Finally you're watching the good stuff!
We heard you like UA-cam, so we put some UA-cam in your UA-cam!
hey cutie
@@yusogasora8194wdym by that 🤨
Bring back the dislike counter
Simone: "What are we going to do tonight, Scraps?"
Scraps: "The same thing we do every night, TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"
Awwwww, mannnnn... You just HAD to go and set Simone up for "One is a genius, the other's insane!" 😂❤
Narf!
I love that this sets simone up as the stupid one that doesn’t really understand anything she’s doing, and scraps is the brainiac genius mad scientist
Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
@@tapio_m6861 But if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels.
I'm probably 20+years older than Simone and yet I still want to be her when I grow up.
it's never too late to start learning and doing!
@bononista3999Jesus loves you
@@chau9346 why?
My little dog behavior consultant heart leapt at “At least I know that Scraps is very good at saying ‘no’ to things. And she’s not saying no to this leg brace”
Increasing choice and agency, and finding ways to ask our dogs if they’ll opt in to the things we choose to introduce in their lives is so often missing in the animal caretaking conversation. So glad to see it here.
Yes!
Agreed, its really good.
People need to pay more attention to what their pet needs, wants and feels (beyond the basic food shelter and water). If you are attentive and willing to solve problems in their environment (aka accomodate) then you can solve a lot of problems that people blame on dog breed and 'poor training' or "cat nature".
Something i see people ignore the core reasons for a lot is aggression, "pitbulls are violent" "chihuahuas are always in a bad mood", "but they aren't bad if they're well trained!"
These dialogues ignore the needs and feelings of the creature. Chihuahuas are given very little accomodation, are small and thus easily harmed, and not well accomodated.
Pitbulls, rotweilers and other large "aggressive" dogs are generally neglected for the sake of keeping post, have painful body modifications done to them as pups, and are not given enough enrichment, or personal space.
When a dog barks, people don't wonder what makes the dog bark. Is it boredom? Staking a claim to something? Is it afraid and being defensive? Is it asking for help? Is it irritated?
People also don't pay real attention to animal body language. Its ironic, because i have autism and i read most creatures more easily than people. But it's a skill. Its not hard to learn, you just have to care, and most people don't seem to care.
But yeah, pretty much all the needs we have apply to other animals in some way. They need enrichment, personal space and things to own for themself, they need excercise and attention, care, they need autonomy, they need to be allowed choices.
And giving them this won't look the same as a human would need want or be capable of, so I'm not projecting/anthropomorphising either.
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 Any suggestions for how to deal with a cat that yowls loudly for no discernible reason? Like, extremely loudly. He's fixed, 7 years old, very affectionate. We try to pay enough attention to him to keep his cuddle tank full, but he can be very insistent on jumping into your lap at inconvenient times and won't accept merely a bit of petting on the floor.
He is particularly vocal following meals (which come by way of an automatic feeder, and he sits in anticipation for at each dispensing). Other times, he can be fresh off a cuddle session, but we put him down, and he leaves, walking down the hall screaming loudly, often unwilling to even come when we attempt to call him in with one of us to give him the attention he seems to be asking for.
It's very upsetting for my wife who is on the autism spectrum and has some auditory sensory issues. We've tried scolding, we've tried ignoring completely, and we've tried responding by offering attention, and nothing works consistently. We're kind of out of ideas. He's not a bad cat, but this habit of screaming his way down the hall is something that really causes us some distress.
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 absolutely! the general population is really bad at actually reading animal body language. my dog has a very minor fear reactivity, only if a stranger attempts to pet him on his head. I have narrowed this down by watching him interact with strangers. my mom sees it as "the dog is mad" and "why did he try to bite that man" whereas I see it as "the man made a fast and aggressive movement, the dog got scared, and snapped the air as a warning that it was scared" the whole "oh he's friendly, look his tail is wagging" thing really irks me too. i would love to see more general knowledge reaching people about these things!
@@jlt131 mhm agreed.
Something to note too, is that fear reactions work in a process of elimination.
If you can't freeze or run, or charm, then you fight. A dog on a leash can't run, and most dogs have been taught that they have to interact with people if their owner says so or stops to talk to them, and if they're being touched by that person, they are already too vulnerable to freeze (becausefreeze response if for hiding, avoiding being seen and plotting a way to deal with the situation.) If the dog is being touched, well, being nice and charming will only result in more of that. So all the dog has left is to fight, to react aggressively in that scenario.
Many people use their pet as a tool in some capacity, even subconsciously. a common one is their dog as a means of starting a social interaction, which in turn may further other wants (such as getting to know people in the neighborhood, getting attention, or making alliances/friends. Ive seen people use it as a way of gathering gossip too, which they might later use to exert control over others or entertain themselves.)
A thing about humans using things as tools, is we tend to ignore the tool's needs whenever they're inconvenient.
This video hit so close to home. I got my college degree in mechanical engineering, and for my capstone project we built a canine exoskeleton to aid in rehabilitation. Being a long-time fan and having you as such an inspiration through those college years as a woman in stem, and then seeing this video pop up was such a full-circle moment. Thank you for doing what you do!!
Bionicpets would be a good shout as well for seeing some of the challenges they overcome when building robotic legs.. while I do agree with a lot of people that we are not yet there mechanically for things like equine as the legs don't really aid them health wise as much as with smaller animals as the cons become more and more of a burden, but it is an absolute wonder anytime I see people working either within the boundaries of what legs and even oddities like beaks can be done mechanically I also love seeing people trying to experiment to expand what they can do to include animals like equine who are currently too complicated.
@@Reptile_Gecko ... You can't rehab a horse with a broken leg, because you can't get the horse to stop being a horse.
Horses like to run. They Live to Run. A dog cares more about having fun with you than it does it's own health more for the moment than the future.
Human children act the same way.
You had to brainwash your subject to get it to accept your help.
The odds that the tech developed by exoskeletons is way more likely to be turned against fellow humans than it will be to help a Dog.
Fluffy snags on everything in your beach bag with it's new outfit on...
Or "Butch" did a hell of a job clearing out that homeless encampment?
Scraps' whole vibe is immaculate: Will eventually become accustomed to a robot leg brace, absolutely will not wear an unremarkable dog harness. Scraps has opinions, and I'm here to respect and appreciate them!
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote:
"To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance"
~ Oscar Wilde
You can tell how even the little bit of torc improved how she moved and how reduced the stress to that leg was. Look out for joint support and locking joints if they’re not in the best position. these can be issues for humans so I’d assume they can be issues for dogs too. You’re a rockstar Simone!
How many joints between the back hip and front?
What are those all doing, with each stride?
This is such a smart idea, because i think when most people think of ways to help amputees; human, dog, or otherwise; we fixate on the idea of prosthetic replacements. But that's not always a viable solution, both because we don't have the technology to make prosthetics that can fully replace a limb in terms of movement, and in the case of animals especially we don't have the ability to clearly communicate if something is working or not. But by helping to enhance and support the remaining limb, especially since scraps can still move around without too much trouble on her three legs already, you're clearly optimizing the situation for the best results.
I seem to notice a lot of the time when approaching any disability, mental or physical, there tends to be a belief that the best way to help is to "fix" whatever is "broken" by making things work the same way they would for an abled person. But that isn't always helpful, and can even make things worse. Scraps doesn't need a fourth leg in order for you to help give support to her existing limbs. You've solved the problem without forcing her to look "normal". And that's an attitude and perspective that needs to be used in order to properly help people. (Not at all an expert on anything here just stating an opinion)
fantastic write-up of this
Well put! :)
You're absolutely right. It's such a hard notion to shake off, both for people more involved in it I imagine and for the average layperson, because our culture (and I reckon most other modern cultures as well) has these ideas ingrained into us in a million different ways. From Jesus Christ curing blindness or lameness, to cybernetic replacements/augmentations of limbs & body parts in pop culture, all the way through the current medical technologies and aspirations of transplants, artificial organs, etc. We're fixated on 'fixing' things instead of making sure we're _making things better._
I couldn’t have said it any better! Fantastic write up
This is a great way to put it. I've always disliked when some people are like "Oh prosthetics are bad actually because they imply we're worse for not having them" or something, cause while I understand the idea, it's just a terrible and divisive way to phrase it/go about it. Sometimes a replacement is the best solution, but sometimes it isn't. Doesn't mean replacements aren't great, but we need to consider case by case. We often go about it by thinking of prosthetics as "reversing the problem", but it's not; it's creating a solution or aid, and there's a lot of ways of going about a solution that each have their own pros and cons.
The two of you were destined for one another from the beginning. How cool is that, and how lucky is Scraps to have a parent who's not only a maker, but someone who's as super kind and caring as you are?
If there's any possibility of an Iron Man suit becoming a real thing, it's because Simone Giertz will build it for her dog.
Iron Mutt will be a thing!
"It's a high tech prosthesis. That's actually the most apt description I can make of it."
The name Scraps seems oddly poignant here. I wonder if Simone was planning something like this since she adopted her.
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote:
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages"
~ Shakespeare
@@philosophy_bot4171 ... Crap In ~ Crap Out.
@@exafrost ... Yep, issued in the thousands to the National Guard well before "Fluffy" regains full movement.
How's that taste?
For real Simone, I am SO HAPPY that you include your frustration and "failures" in your videos. It helps so much with my imposter syndrome. thank you
Don't know if I am more impressed by the build, or the fact that you taught her how to tell secrets
That was very cute!
I'm impressed by her ankle mobility :P
This exactly
Simone taught Scraps to take selfies.
"Sit! Roll Over... Tell secrets!"
This whole video and Simone struggling but still continuing because she adores Scraps….it’s literally every dog parent ever (plus her extra brains of course)
She took them extra brains out a while ago and even irradiated them. I hope Brian doesn't come back.
The zoom-in of the stuffed polar bear's little smile when you say "special...friend" was inspired
That polar bear has seen some things.
We've all seen Airplane's inflatable co-pilot.
Brilliant! Truly brilliant! After a million years in vet medicine, I've seen only one successful prosthetic on a dog and it took thousands of dollars and infinite patience from the owner, doctors and dog to achieve fitment, but this is just so much smarter! Solving for the actual problem which is fatigue, not the abnormal anatomy, which works just fine for Scraps.
Simone's brain is an absolute treasure.
Those crazy people from our past...
More interested in an animals Spinal Health and the Unbalanced Fatigue of earning the nickname, "tripod."
If you are going to ignore your alignment, it will cost you big money to attempt to fix it.
This device puts more strain on the side of the spine that is already overused, and ignores the underdeveloped side.
Disks will wear lopsided, and verves that control the tail, leg(s), and what (normally) lies between will fail.
Brilliant?
Someone forget how one end was connected to the other?
OK, but... How did you actually make the brace and set it up? It's nice to see how the dog trained and accepted it, but what is it and how does it work?
I was wondering the same, like what's the input?
Same here. Thought this is a builder channel but this video was more for the broad appeal I guess.
@@darkiee69 I am assuming the motor is set up to always turn in one direction with a set amount of torque and up to a certain position. Thus the motor would essentially act like a spring that you can control the tension of. Or slightly different assumption: The motor is set up to always return to a certain position (a straight leg) and does so with a set amount of torque again effectively acting like a spring.
@@mathismuller6033I should think you'd only want it acting once compression stops, so the latter? It's fun having little real knowledge and trying to figure it out but a real video on it would be cool.
@@Yewtewba That would indeed be quite helpful. But I don`t think it would only be turned on once compression stopped, because that would mean that Scraps would have to actively slow down the "drop" of her hind legs which would require more strength than if the motor did that for her. When I read the video title I thought she would construct a fourth leg for her, but I guess this solution is way more practical.
This is so sweet. I'm glad you're collecting data on her leg movement too, but make sure to have regular checkups with her vet too. They may notice potential issues with her leg brace that a layman might not!
An excellent point! I'm sure Simone is doing this, but it's a great reminder for viewers who maybe forget about the parts that happen behind the scenes. I think having the data available is going to be really helpful for the vet and for Simone being able to pick up on changes that might otherwise be missed. I know sometimes the vet has asked me "does your pet do X thing a lot" and it can be really difficult to figure out if they have been doing it more or less than usual lately. With a special needs pet it can also be hard when you are always paying attention and looking for signs of problems to see something and either worry that a problem is worsening when it's actually staying the same or the opposite where you know a problem exists and you don't notice symptoms gradually worsen. Having a quantitative measurement (like weight as an easy example everyone can track with their pet) can make a huge difference, especially with animals that naturally hide problems.
I am building prosthetics for humans so it’s very interesting to watch you build a helper for your dog 😻
I can not express how happy I am that she created something to help her dog the way she is instead of trying to make her a fourth prosthetic leg
why? that's not inherently better. what if a fourth leg would help more?
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr This was my thought. A fourth leg would be better weight distribution, and overall less strain on the surviving joint. On the plus side, the "exo" could likely be modified to make a more functional replacement for the missing leg. Leave the current exo on, add fourth leg with exo support = profit?
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr Scraps would have to learn how to walk with the fourth leg without necessarily understanding what was going on. Humans relearning how to walk and function with prosthetics have difficulties and pains from it, but they can communicate in a way that Scraps can't and have a full understanding of what they're doing.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehrScraps would have to learn to rewalk at that point, which might be a bit uncomfortable to do depending on how old they are.
@@willowthywispit was mentioned that she is only 3 years old. Unfortunately she will have higher chances of arthritis and muscle imbalance together with strain will be high because of the fact that she only got 1 leg.
omg this was so cute!!!
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From someone who is so so so deeply into dog behavior and training, you did this so well. I'm shocked and amazed that people like you exist who truly care about your pup, physically and mentally. I hope this sweet girl gives you many long years of joy
I used to be a Vet. Tech. Ripped cruciate ligaments in the back leg are SUPER common (keep your dogs lean folks!) And the normal fix is surgical, and you have to normally do Both "knees". I can see this replacing surgery and helping the dog's ligaments heal while still keeping dog mobile.
DO design it for being able to wear on left or right back leg, Simone !
I work in medical bracing for humans, there's lots of knee braces designed for stabilising knee ligament tears in humans and other than a total rupture the outcomes are usually very good with no surgery and lots of physio! Don't know dog anatomy, but I suspect the digitigrade knees would be difficult to stabilise as effectively. Definitely possible, though unpowered mechanical would be a much better option to powered and motorised imo
There is no right back leg.
@cobraruler yes, but if someone else has a dog missing the left leg, or this is used as a preventative, having it fit EITHER leg seems to be worth designing for in early stages !
Braces can be an option in some situations but the ligament never “heals”. The body builds scar tissue to stabilize the knee (medial buttressing)
@@WarAdmiral0 correct, though grafts aren't perfect either and the complications can be bad. It's all very situation dependent, young patients or those who are very active probably will be better off with the surgery; but for most people it's less clear cut imo
PLEASE keep us updated I'm so invested on how it works out!. omg this was so cute!!!.
Simone's invention ideas are like better executed, less dangerous versions of something that William Osman would come up with. Except they actually work lol.
Or Michael Reeves
@@scottgriz But with more uploading
To be fair, Simone initally became well known for creating 'inventions' that never worked lol
She was the og shitty robot maker
@@jayhawkcole true. No offense to Michael Reeves, his videos are amazing. He is definitely similar to early Simone. But way more over the top.
What a wonderful mobility aid, I appreciate how much thought and research you put into this. Scraps is so lucky to have found her way to you, you two are clearly meant to be together ❤
You blow me away with every single video you make. Not only are you crazy creative and smart, but the way you interact with Scraps and respect her boundries is so beautiful to see. In my not at all expert opinion you do everything right with her, in every way. In short, you continue to be my absolute role model in life.
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literally laughed out loud at 7:43 just because the "shit i broke something and my multimeter battery is dead" is universal
Once she is used to it and you know which torque she prefers, you could replace the motor with a torsion spring so she doesnt need to carry around the battery pack anymore^^
As others have said, I'd really love to see a follow-up with the stats, what works/doesn't, what changes you might make, etc etc...! I love your love for Scraps and hope this project's making a difference for you both ☺
So, I realise this isn't exactly super common, but if there was some way you'd be willing to small scale produce these, I'd buy one. My dog is a similar size to scraps, and is missing the exact same leg, and I've been trying to think of ways to help her out recently. Please please keep us updated on progress!!!
What has the vet said about her mobility? Humans can be very precious and concerned about missing legs on animals, but the majority of cats and dogs do very well on 3 legs! It's worth knowing that you only need to look into a solution if the vet is concerned about the remaining leg, e.g. wear and tear on the joint or the animal walking funny.
@OhSoUnicornly so far she's doing really well (she's 6/7, was found stray so don't know exactly) and they aren't worried currently, just say keep her lightweight, regular exercise and give her joint supplements, and we do all three 😊 but they are pretty certain she'll need some help at some point as her remaining back leg does have a luxating patella, just interested to see this as a possible option rather than just waiting until its bad enough to need wheels!
And by "this took months of training," Scraps is referring to how long it took to get Simone to build her a prosthesis
I hope we get updates on how Scraps gets accustomed to the harness and we get to see possible future iterations!
She seemed comfortable with the final result, and it will be interesting to see if it helps her to not get as tired. She sure was having fun playing with you at the end.
PLEASE keep us updated I'm so invested on how it works out!
I second this! I would love to hear about the next few weeks and months as you both learn.
Yes, more Cyber-Scraps!
Scaps is so lucky to have an owner like you, who not only is able to make amazing things, but is willing to go above and beyond just for her comfort! 🥰
Not sure what we did to deserve so many videos this close together!
that's some cyberdogi
Thanks for pointing out that she had another video recently! I missed it. Gotta go watch it after this.
Look at her right cheekbone. Its swollen from radiation, her cancer might be getting hard to manage, i hope she gets better.
HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE that Scraps only has 3 legs! Tripod dogs are so freaking determined. So glad you and Scraps found each other!
So many times, I've said to myself, 'This is the most amazing, satisfying, joy-bringing thing Simone has made yet!' Here we go again. Making an effort to make life better for someone you love is the best thing we can do.
So cute! I love the idea. There are a lot of dogs with "wheelchairs"--which would be the way to go as Scraps gets older because it's more passive--but for the young dog she is this is such a great solution! I had no idea that was where you were going to take it, but it's honestly brilliant! And the fact that you were able to get all the electronics to fit just on the one leg is wonderful. I just can't give you enough praise! You're also such a great dog owner! Patient, understanding, active, Scraps is in good hands.
For being 11 minutes, I didn't feel like I was anywhere near your process. Just sorta watched your dog do a few things. Maybe you're putting more on a patreon or something? Would have loved to see the app, or data, the motor, or simply see you showing the manual testing off of your doggo to see what it actually does.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine.
Noel Fitzpatrick, the Supervet in the UK, is the vet mentioned for his pioneering work on animal prosthetics. The degree of mobility he has managed to return to animals with lost limbs hasn't even been achieved in humans yet. His work on bone-attached Ti prosthetics is epic.
The ethical debate mentioned is also relevant, in some cases the harm vs help balance is very dubious, the operations are extremely intensive and require a lot of physical therapy and painful recovery afterwards, which is a lot to put an animal that can’t understand what’s going on through.
bias disclaimer: i’ve had personal interaction with him and found him to be an arrogant wanker. he’s a very clever bloke, but he did also inspire the song ‘toxic’ by britney spears (true story!!!)
@@hannahpowell :O at the last bit. Whether or not true, the internet has certainly decided it is and it seems plausible. As for Fitzpatrick, your comment made me think of Charlie Teo, the controversial Australian neurosurgeon who thinks the sun shines out his arse. Looked on Wikipedia, apparently he's on the council of an Australian animal welfare group.
My sister works for the Royal Veterinary College London. The vets there have to clean up Noel Fitzpatrick’s mess when it doesn’t work out. They only show the success stories on the TV show, they don’t show when an animal has to have the bone graft prosthetic removed 😢She will also confirm that he is an arrogant wanker.
I Like that she included that vets opinion and His mention of the ethical debate.
Bone-attached? Oh, now I understand why there's a controversy.
Thanks for the info folks. It's quite the eye-opener.
I'd love to have a LOT more information on how this works - I mean the mechanism and the control software - and on how you designed it, and your thinking going into it.
I know you could probably spend 10 hours talking about the mechanism, so understand not wanting to get too bogged down in it, but i was surprised that you almost completely glazed over how it functions. Maybe there’s another video coming?
I mean, i would like to have seen at least some of the construction. At this Level of explaination you could also just put a sock on your dogs body. And it was even less helpful for all the other dog owners who thought, man i could recreate this for my struggling dog. Martina from nerdforge made her prostetic for everyone to recreate for example.
I'm wondering if you could create an Air Bud situation by slowly cranking up the tension until you have an extra bouncy puppy
Your dog just became a hundred times cooler! Also it was really interesting seeing you struggle. I saw that this meant a lot to you
As an AK amputee with another bum leg, I LOVE seeing Scraps in your videos. This is so cool!
I am ashamed to admit that my brain went to "American Kennel Club amputee" before I was like "oh wait, Above Knee. That makes more sense".
@@erin9868My brain went to Alaska. Then I remembered that knee starts with K.🤦🏼♀️
That's why you shouldn't play with an AK, this thing is a weapon, not a toy...
9:09 in and I finally realized that the purpose was to help support her existing leg; not to make a replacement for the missing one. This build makes SOOOO much more sense to me now. 😂😅
Did you do a slowmo video from directly behind? I wonder how much of the issue is the offset of the force on her hip and knee due to one side doing all the work. It’s really touching how dedicated you are to giving this dog the best life possible in every aspect.
this is so freaking cute 😭 truly glad Scraps has you as her pet parent 'cause she seemed unencumbered and ready to play by the end 💛
So since it's presumably been a few weeks, how is she liking it?
As a dog owner, I love this video. It's awesome to see the work and help you're giving Scraps. Can clearly see your emotion in the video too.
A bit light on the details in regards to how it works. Also comparison shots with running with the brace would be nice.
I wonder if making a fake leg would have been easier and lighter material. She way more talented then me though
I feel like we are missing an ending, or at least a part 2. What is Scrap's reaction to more torque? Is she asking you to wear it more? What is the end result? I want to know more!
I believe the conceit is that we're seeing this experiment as it happens, and we'll know soon after she does.
too much torque, she still has to come down
Not just the ending. We didn't even get to see how the exoskeleton works.
@@nekhumonta It's just an inertial dampener. So think of it like a spring but instead of mechanical it's using electromagnetism to create an adjustable spring effect in the leg. It doesn't force the dogs leg to move, it just reduces the amount of strain on the knee because of the lack of another hind leg. In the video showing Scrap's running, that one-leg push off after both front legs have left the ground, followed by her hind end coming down and impacting on one foot-it shows there is a lot of knee and ankle stress.
Omg!!! I wish you could make one for my cat Baloo. He lost his front leg this year and is slowing down quite a bit. I loved your video. We live in LA too. If you ever need another model or test object, Baloo is easy to work with ;)
I really appreciate how much effort was put into making sure Scraps was weighing in on decisions and being introduced to new things slowly. So cute and wholesome!
Well done Simone, you should feel very proud. You have improved your freinds quality of life. Our dogs are family, they are far more than pets.
Great idea, great execution. Here's hoping it helps Scraps keep up with all her escapades.
*escrapades
Beautiful and heartwarming. I would love to see a more technical dive into how the machine works. And also a follow up when Scraps has had some time with it.
Being an amputee myself (right arm above elbow) I know how hard it can be to adapt to a prosthesis.....and I understand what is going on....imagine not having a clue and all of a sudden having a prosthetic.....yet scraps literally takes it in her stride (pun intended) and makes it look easy. You have a very special dog there Simone
I’ve always wondered. if you were right handed before losing your right arm; is it easier to adapt to a prosthesis or to being left handed? my thought process being that personally my left hand is WEAK so I really don’t know. although I understand the answer may differ with the types of prosthesis.
@@LiterallyAllNamesAreTaken I was right handed.
My story is a little unusual.....i didn't initially loose my right arm, I paralysed it. I had the arm amputated after about 5 years , and by then I had fully adapted to doing things one handed. I did try a prosthesis (actually I have 3 of them in the loft), but as I said I was fully adapted by then, so never found it worth the hassle and discomfort
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal. Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death.
Simone, you're such an inspiration. Your videos help me to look at problem-solving differently. You show that learning, researching and getting things done are a ton of fun. In a platform that rewards shallow constant uploads over well produced content, it's really relieving to have people like you keeping it interesting, thanks for that.
So happy to find your channel! I just retired after many years in IT tech support and it's great to see a woman finding tech solutions to problems. I hope the brace works out for you and Scraps. 👍
Would have been interesting to see more about how you made the device exactly and what your thought process was building it. The ending felt way too abrupt.
exactly what I was wondering
tbf while annoying I'm a little glad. Because if you show how to make it exactly then you run the risk of people making it but not listening to their dog as much which could be dangerous. This isn't a vet tested and trialed produced. Same as a human, you can experiment on yourself sometimes but you can't expand until it's passed safety tests and the like.
How does it work? You skipped all the hardware and software part wtf.
So excited for this project! Will this be open sourced? I would love to invest some time in to maybe adapting this for a harness system for other dogs that do accept harnesses or just mess around with it without a dog attached
I wish it showed us more about how it was done, the functions, the wiring, the process. I love the video of course, but it felt like it when from "We have this problem" to "I built this whatever and it didn't work" and then to "I built this better whatever and it works".
Anyway, much love to Scraps, Simone and the show team. Love u all!
I feel like we are kind of missing the conclusion. "I made this thing, but I don't know how well it works yet". It almost felt like this was more of a way to educate people about when dogs say "no!"
This is amazing! Scraps is so lucky to have you as an owner❤
This is so cool. I don't know why but until the very end I thought there was going to be some prosthesis for her missing leg, not just a support for her existing leg. I think if I was quizzed before the final product I would have not gotten a good grade lol. But this is really awesome, I'm excited to see some updates on how Scraps takes to the exoskeleton.
My favorite part was when there was the dog.
Please, do another slo-mo with the brace on to see the change in her response.
It's an interesting video but yes it may be good for the dog to help them but really they would need to go to a specialist vet in order to have any kind of prosthetics since it could really harm the dog I also hate it when people purposely dress the dogs up in things that they do not need Plus this person is not a proper electrician their dog Could easily get an electric shock with the device they made If that happens they could easily get sent to prison or jail and they would lose a dog Also even if dogs are fine or any other pet with clothing on them they may not be they may be too scared to let you to say that they do not want the clothing or whatever it is you dress them up in they may also be too scared to do anything to get the item of them so they may not always be happy even if they seem they are
Who asked?
This was the most satisfaction I got from crafty videos in a long time, I love when people use engineering skills to help animals in need!
soooo..... how exactly does it work? since the motor works as a spring, how does it redirect the force, and where? maybe im just brainlet but im confused
As someone who works in animal rescue and has a hard time placing 3 legged dogs this made me cry 😭 also the fact that you used a stuffed animal with the leg removed as a model had me laughing so hard
From the moment I understood the weakness of my paws… it disgusted me. I crave the strength and certainty of human steel: I aspire to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind woof to your flesh… as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the biomass you woof all day will wither, and you will beg to humans to save you; but I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
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Our dog had a prosthetic for her malformed leg (it was shorter than the other legs and didn't have full mobility). If she didn't wear it, she would constantly scrape her leg on the ground. She used it from a young age and was very used to it. Since then she had to have the leg amputated as it was causing her pain, and now she gets around pretty well as a tripod, though she does tire out much faster, but at least her leg is no longer causing her pain.
Hot tip! Female dogs humping isn’t typically a sign of “sexual desire”. It’s more of a situation where they get excited by something but don’t really know what to do with that energy and it results in the humping behaviour. Male dogs will do this non-sexual humping as well, especially if a younger dog approaches with way too much energy, the older male dog may just hump the younger out of an “ahhh omg too much energy what do I do” situation.
Not a dog behaviouralist, but this is what I have learned since becoming a person with a dog 😎.
Amazing! Really would be interested in a follow up video to see how Scraps got on and if it ended up helping :D
0:55 I think he's talking about Noel Fitzpatrick. If you are interested, he's the subject of some really cool TV Series (The Supervet and the Bionic Vet).
Scraps' little whisper trick is so cute! XD
Will this work for my husky? She has both of her patellas luxated congenitally, she can still run but she limps after a while. :((( I feel bad bcos she just wants to have fun and have zoomies but she can't do it much
I absolutely love it that even if a lot of people don’t care about our earth and the animals there are some people who just do everything possible to give their pets the best life possible.
Here in Germany some dogs have prosthetic paws and even legs. It’s easier if it’s just the paw because the joint is still there to attach a prostethic but it’s possible with a missing leg too. Maybe that would be an idea for Scraps too if the cyborg solution doesn’t help her enough
Any updates? Does the dog still wear it? Doesn’t it reduce the degrees of freedom? How is the timing? How long does the battery last?
What would it take to make the prototype into a product? Did the leg heal / the pain reduce / the stamina come back?
Looks like a fun project at first glance, but you probably learned a lot while doing it: a d not just about what your dog tolerates.
This made my heart melt, I'm such a doggo lover. Just wanting them to be happy and have a good life is something I can really relate with - Scraps seems to be a very happy girl by the end of this video, and, I don't care what other people might say, dogs really do understand when you try and do what is best for them, there is, a measurable amount of empathy between a doggo and their hoomans. She loves you Simone, and so do I x
Okay, I *totally* misunderstood what the video was about.
I honestly thought you were giving Scraps a prosthetic 4th leg, not enhancing their existing rear one. My bad. Still an awesome video and build.
This is awesome!! Little dogs tend to have trouble with their back knees so I really think this kind of support will be really good for her 🥰
Caravan Palace, great choice for epic “she’s getting shit done” music.
This is so wholesome. It's awesome that you put in so much effort to help your dog to have a better quality of life!!
I love that you’re doing this, but you need to pay attention to her back.
Essentially, you’re transferring stress from one joint to another: her left hip rather than the knee. Watch the extra twist this introduces to her spine.
I hurt my knee and was on crutches for about six months. Even with the crutches, I started having hip and knee pain on the other side.
Look at it all as a system, rather than a single stress point. Like roof joists, the stress of the load gets transferred around.
I think a prosthetic would be better in the long term.
A shaped flexible cushioned plate from ribs to belly, and the leg portion having support going around the right hip and strapped to the left. The prosthetic leg itself, spring loaded at joints, with a limited knee pivot, and each part attached laterally to the left leg to guide forward motion.
An added benefit is without the electronics, you aren’t putting more weight on her to carry.
What a beautiful thing you're doing for Scraps!! I'm looking forward to a pupdate! 😉
Does anyone happen to know what the ethical arguments regarding prosthetics for animals are?
My only guess would be if it is something relating to making them uncomfortable for the sake of "looking normal" but there are so many things that can affect animals quality of life and I would think that as long as the thing is added to help compensate for something that could be causing a detriment, it is ethical. Obviously if an animal is constantly distressed by wearing something, of course that is worse, but done lovingly and in the animal's best interest and taking their feedback seriously should do the trick.
I have seen some amazing things from a lego wheel structure for a kitten to a 3D printed beak for a duck that lost it's upper beak and couldn't eat properly to this which could help reduce pain and wear and tear on the joints since one leg is taking the force that would normally be spread between 2. I would think it would be similar to treating a child, if it bothers them more than it helps their quality of life, ok take it off. It seems like the only ethics would be just being very in tune with the animal and be willing to make changes when they reject something, like in this video. Honestly this could probably be patented as losing a leg is not that uncommon as an injury for pets.
Please do an update video on this, so PAWSOME!! 🐾
A spring should be all that is needed , not a motor. The lower hind legs of quadripeds use the connective tissues as energy storage. The muscles that power the stride are in the back and rump.
lower leg amputee athletes do very well with a carbon fibre "blade" which is just a spring. In some cases they out perform non-amputee runners