Electric Honda | We Buy a Honda E 'Advance'
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2020
- So the Honda E Journey starts! I go off and purchase the Honda E and we go out for the first drive!
If Honda, or anyone else wishes to sponsor this venture then get in touch!
Correction: Surprise is spelt....well Surprise, but after only noticing this after ~10 hours of work I decided to leave it in!
Nice work Amy and Ian, always enjoy your updates 🇦🇺😎👍🏻
Thanks 👍
So good to see you both together again in an EV. Ho the family are all well and safe.
Thanks, yeah doing well thanks!
Hi Ian,
I suspected that you were going to do the "Honda E - 50,000 miles" project come hell or high water.
Good on you - and every success.
Bruce will never miss what he doesn’t know.
I’m looking forward to H . . . . .’s adventures.
Glad to hear that Mum & Dad’s Leaf 24 is going strong and serving them well.
Mike
Cheers Mike!
Loving it so far!
Me too!
Brilliant video Ian.
Thanks 👍
Looking forward to watching the other episodes of this, but being at the start of ownership, talking about the range of 80-100 miles real world range, what happens after 4 or 5 years when you've lost 5-10% battery capacity and its -2 degrees c so lose another 10% range with a cold battery, and heater on, you'll be down to 50 miles or so range? Is this realistic expectations of the Honda E?
Our Soul is autominic and has a nice handle too!! Love it.
Ha ha brilliant 🤣🤪
Lol
“What car do you know thathas an aquarium?”
...... your Renault Zoe!
(hidden in the obscure apps but it has one)
Great to see you back - looking forward to following another Sampson EV adventure!
Cheers from Surrey
I didnt know that..I never knew I needed one, but now I do ha ha
Which Zoe is it on ? We have not looked but would be cool for the kids.
@@nickieredshaw7835 Any of them. It is a free app from the r-link store.
@@paulprosser1289 is there a easy link store ? As got a ze50 that doesn’t have r link ? Thanks
Great colour choice. Funky and full of character
We think so too! Cheers!
Lucky! Enjoy your new car 😊
Thanks!
ASH Honda Dorchester is my dealer of choice. Very cheap, 5 year service plan included and very happy to source a car. Have fun on your journey.
Thanks! Yeah I have that service plan as well. When did you get yours?
Great video thanks going to be fun to watch the series. What efficiency are you getting so far ? Take care and safe travels
Low..about 2.8 because I am hooning it 1 having a blast!
@@IanSampsonRLO lol I drive a lot like that since got ev as it’s a lot of cheap fun ! Worst I’ve had around town over 15 miles was 1.8 !!
I think you can switch the rear view mirror from regular to a camera back on the car by flipping a switch. It’s built in the rear mirror.
Correct.
It's so nice to see you back active again. I missed seeing your videos. £230 for insurance for both of you?? What? My insurance always went up when checking EVs.
Cheers Martin, yeah I didnt think it was to bad, mind you thats around about the price for our others we have
@@IanSampsonRLO it's unfortunately one of the reasons I haven't gone EV. The insurance cost plus monthly battery(Zoe) was more than what I'd save on petrol.
@@MartinRisbyVR Hi Martin, you shouldn't count the battery rental as the same as fuel costs. If you look closely at it, the battery rental brings the cost up to the amount you would have to pay if you bough it outright. EG. My Zoe payments (previous car) per month were £224 + £90 (car +battery) = £314. MG (which is slightly cheaper) is £306. So in both cases fuel is above the cost of the vehicle. You then take into account that the average ICE fuel is 10p/mile when average EV is 1.5 to 2p/mile.
@@MartinRisbyVR yep, same story in my case. Only for me it was also an issue with APR that Nissan offered for a Leaf. The difference in APR and insurance completely destroyed £70 savings in fuel.
@@manwithcorsae7738 yer and if you do average miles or above you will save a good bit on total price ie ice equivalent car and fuel . We have saved about a 1000£ in fuel over 8400 miles and about 700-800 £ cheaper overall and it’s a lot better to drive than ice car and it’s so much more fun and greener quite quickly so it’s a win win
In the first 'episode' you mentioned that your wife struggled to see out over the screens? My wife is 5'4" and we wonder if it will be an issue to see out for her, as the passenger seat is not height adjustable. Will we need a booster cushion? Perhaps you could comment if it has continued to be an issue at some point.
Very true, it has not been an issue whilst travelling since, but I would look at having a booster ready for ultimate comfort. She uses a cushion even in my Zoe, and thats massively higher!
Would you say this is the 2020 version of a NEV? Some interesting tests/video ideas for the future: Comparing the autonomous drive Honda E vs LEAF 40kw Techna, E+ 62KW, any other non Tesla autonomous drive EVs. Did Renault include any lane keep assist in the 50KW Zoe?
Yes ze50 got lane keep and follow assist but no adaptive cruise control it’s a shame as I miss it but it’s so easy to drive so I’m ok.
That is a pretty neat little car, I think if it had a larger range and for convenience the door handles popped out when you got close to it I would be sold I think
They do pop out when you approach 😮🤩
The Wharf House is where I charge when I visit my parents in Gloucester. I have a Polar Card and that works fine. We usually have a meal at the Toby Carvery just down the road while the car charges. There’s a nice short walk down the restored canal, as well.
Its £4.50 connection fee (even when a member!) If it wasn’t for that I would use it more often. Mind you the free 7kw one there might be handy especially if going for a meal. PS Toby carvery was flooded the other day
I've been stuck at that charger too Ian (Think it was CYC at the time) didn't work then ether.
Good to see they are proactively sorting it out! 🤣🙄
Can't wait for the videos.....how do you get into the back?
Its a 5 door 😀
@@IanSampsonRLO I know but I didn't see a handle
As a button on that what would be the grill a small black button. Push that to open the charge port
Yup that works also :)
Omg you replied :)
On another podcast show, the reviewer complained that at night, the ’mirrors’ we're over-bright and glaring... True or false?
Not had that no, they pretty much emulate real mirrors.
I’ve watched the whole rural leaf series and looking forward to this one. Regarding the Honda dealership challenge I feel like it’s would be similar to testing how much weight a ballerina could lift - you’d be testing it on the task it is least capable at. It’s a great little car and probably brilliant at that but with that range it is a poor motorway vehicle. The compromises you’ll have to make will make EVs look bad.
I’ll admit it’ll make for exciting viewing though.
Peeps need to realise its not designed for this at all, just like the lane assist isnt for country roads - but will kind of work on them. Instead of just doing 1 video doing a review on it...or just filming the same journey over and over (to work and back - ~12 miles a day) this was a way of legitimately opening up content.
Looking forward to watching this series Ian. We traded in two ZE40 Zoes (2017 & 2018) and picked up the same spec 1,000 mile ex-demonstrator in Platinum White Pearl last Wednesday, we love it. I can’t see any mention of the price you negotiated with the dealer, are you willing to disclose?
£25,250. Congrats on yours!
@@IanSampsonRLO Ouch! A good deal for sure. We paid £27,350. We added the 5 year service plan, and we extended the warranty and Hondacare assistance to 5 years too.
@@sib4897 to stick the boot in a little more, mine also came with a 5 year service plan (but I dint add a further 5 years). Also to help remove the boot lol it was up for £27000 - as in first video, I pushed them for a better price (pro tip: use another listing on auto trader that closely matches the exact car you are buying but is cheaper - because you can demonstrate you can walk away AND get it cheaper, with this they matched the price (almost - it was £250 more...but it was closest to me and saved my travel costs up north).
Your deal wasn’t miles out, £1k maybe at most. Your mileage was lower also dont forget.
PS I wanted a higher milage as this really is a car I bought for this channel! And want to see how the Honda E performs over 50,000 miles (not how I perform, but how it performs - can it cover 50,000 trouble free, I have a little head start as got it on 2680 miles)
@@IanSampsonRLO Mine's metallic!! LOL
Hi stupid question but can you use the 7kw chargers for free no signup? also how do u use the tesla destination chargers do u need special cable or signup? need to know these things before I jump lol. Great video by the way even more interesting as drove one today and now realise I missed so many points as was massive brain overload lol
A lot of 7kw (and 22kw) posts are free. Tesco + Pod-Point for example are usually free. Mine came with the type 2 cable - and think they might when new also.
Can't use Tesla chargers non Tesla cars, adapters for non Tesla cars to use at Tesla Superchargers are unreliable.
Tesla Destination Chargers works on all Type 2 Mennekes plug if it is configured to Legacy Mode. Carry a screwdriver with you to change the dip switch configuration 👀
@@Nobody_Famous cool thx
Go get 'em Ian.
Thanks!
Hi, I have just purchased a Honda E Advance in the lovely yellow. I live fairly close in WSM if you ever fancy a meetup.
Very cool! Congrats! If there is a Honda dealer down there then at some point I will be there!
First time on your channel as I've been looking at the Honda E . Great car but the example of our infrastructure means I'll sadly stick with my Hybrid for a bit longer especially as the range means you are more susceptible to have to charge away from home.
Keep following along and lots more real life big trips to test this out!
The thing looks like an elasticated matchbox.
Great car 😊👍🌹
I think so as well, for its place in the market.
Just got a Leaf and it is bigger than my prior Micra that I find it seriously hard to park. The Honda E looks a similar size as my prior car so might have been a better fit... lol.
Just cost
....and it parks itself ha ha :)
How fast does it park...
That's a great car! Doubt you'll be able to part with it after 50k miles :D
That has dawned on me...a little concerning!
A Honda without a Husky. That’s a little sad. Got fish but no dog.
Great first episode on the Honda e 50,000mi.
He will ride in the stinky / hairy Zoe ha ha
@@IanSampsonRLO A thought... the Honda E is a gen 1 version.. gen 2 may have more battery options, more range mote power etc, i think gen 1 ev`s are public test cars for finding the limits of battery, motor the general car can do, then all that info is put into gen 2 cars.. :)
No rear view mirrors, only side cameras, brilliant.
It has 2 rear view mirrors.
We just bought one, picking up tomorrow, very unsure how to charge the car, we don't even have a charge point at home installed yet lol
Congrats, how are you getting on with it now?
@@IanSampsonRLO loving it, the change over to full electric was nice. Electric point sorted quickly.
Definitely a head turner everywhere we go
Those wing mirrors!
Tiny little things!
I drive a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV - interesting to note that they're still using the same AVAS and start-up tune! And that the app is still pretty much useless...
2 days before I did the deal, they updated the APP. To date I have had no issues at all with it. Setup took a long time, but its been working spot on. Remote stoping and starting charges, locking and unlocking the car remotely, transferring destinations to the sat nav. Will see how it goes over the next 47000 miles.
I find it a bit strange that it has adaptive cruise and lane keeping for the motorway but low range. Other people have commented that is isn't very efficient either which is unexpected. Be interesting to see how you get on.
Kind of true, but like I did on the way back, you can sit on the motorway / dual carriage way for an hour no probs, so it was pretty useful in that scenario. (it also works a treat on rural roads..most of the time!)
I realize it's quite off topic but do anybody know of a good site to watch new movies online?
@Jesse Liam I use Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@Carmelo Zion Definitely, I've been using FlixZone for years myself :D
@Carmelo Zion thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I really appreciate it!!
Can't help feeling the speedometer is too small, but most new cars with digital dashboards suffer the same problem...
No its a good size, cant miss it - its dead centre to drivers view and also at the same time has the speed limit display just off to the left.
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...and 5 door. Use the rear for shopping 🛍
It’s a quirky car, great tech but I think the poor range is just buying years of range anxiety. For around 2k less the Zoe GT line 50kw is available with over double the range.
Zoe is the best value EV on the market; if bang for buck (and limited buck) is what you need to warrant the purchase for sure. This thing is far more advanced and fun though. Depends on the check list your using to get into an EV I guess!
@@IanSampsonRLO yes indeed and you have been there, seen it and done it in the Zoe. 👍
@@IanSampsonRLO yer Zoe is great I think and does all we want . Get Honda e to do 200 miles range it would sell like hot cakes. Love look and colour and lots of screens and cameras is great as love our tech , but has it taken too much of the money and not enough spent on under the hood lol as you would say ? If you say the Honda e is about the same size as Zoe you think, why the so small boot ? Any space for a front trunk and how’s the sound system?
Its a city car and how many average people drive 200 miles in a day in the city unless you're an Uber driver or deliver pizzas for Dominos. The Honda e can do 150 miles in between charges and that plenty in an urban city.
@@mamadouaziza2536 that is fair comment about it being a city car. However my understanding is it has around 28.5kwh usable battery capacity so I think you should only expect around 100 miles range. But more in summer, less in winter.
Is that the 12 mini I spotted in your hand?
Yeah 12 mini
@@IanSampsonRLO great little phones aren’t they.
The starting price is way to high for the range you get. Lots of little bits to go wrong I'm good.
Sounds like is defo not for you! Having an absolute blast in it so far. Will see how the 50,000 miles goes!
such a shame that this awesome little car isn't coming to north america
I know, it would be awesome if it was!
£230 is a good price, especially with the mileage you are expecting to cover. :)
Yeah good value, might need to adjust it just depending on how long it takes to do 157 Honda dealers.
@@IanSampsonRLO The cost goes up when you tell them you actually want to drive the car. :)
@@SirHackaL0t. ha ha so true.
Let me know when you're down Somerset way! (Or East Yorkshire way) ;)
Keep an eye out in our Instagram - should be really up to date on that, as UA-cam will always be behind (aside from Live Streams of course!)
@@IanSampsonRLO I got rid of Insta a while ago, so I'll keep myself updated :)
I can make time for a fellow EV YTer!
Great design but it's got a similar range to the 30kWh Leaf I took delivery of in 2015. Considering the other EVs available in 2020 that's really disappointing.
It's about 30 miles short on real world range to make it a viable even as a second car for us. Shame because it could have been amazing.
Range would be brilliant if they allowed the full use of the battery, but its dialled back, to around 27kwh I think instead of the full ~36kwh.
The car itself is a masterpiece...
@@IanSampsonRLO 27kWh useable is identical to the 30kWh Leaf.
One good thing though, the battery will probably degrade slower.
One thing I'm worried about at 89% SOH is the battery.
Plus the Honda E is a lighter car
Its a city car and its an economy sub compact, so a big battery is not needed. With regenerative braking and an Econo driving mode, one can easily get over 150 miles per charge..
@@mamadouaziza2536 Doubtful but it depends what it manages per mile.
I'm getting about 4 miles per kWh on my Leaf 30 which also has 27 useable (90% health though) and looking at closer to 100 miles a charge.
This may be smaller and more compact but in this weather, 150 is doubtful unless they have been very good with the efficency
@@iKaGe01
People are getting 6 miles per kW also and if one chooses a more energy-efficient driving mode, 150 miles is possible. I can literally get 83 miles out of a 60Ah battery (22kwh/18kwh usable) i3 that is 7 years old. Regenerative braking and keeping the accelerator pedal neutral is key.
That charger seems in the remotest place possible. Lol
Its kind of is, at one point it was the only public charger in Gloucester!
The infrastructure just isn't there yet, I imagine in 10 or 20 years we will look back at these videos and laugh but for now we must suffer range anxiety
Exactly, like with computers taking up an entire building...now look at them!
Are you Chris O'Dowd ?
Channel name will give you a hint
Be really interested in how you get on with this car.
1000 mile review being filmed tomorrow most likely time permitting.
@@IanSampsonRLO really like your reviews so far, informative but too full of numbers.
@@mrglwatson arithmophobia?
@@IanSampsonRLO no, not really, I like your comment with the Honda-e, where 1% is about 1 mile, that’s good enough for me. I don’t really care if 1% is 1.1 miles or 0.9 miles.
@@mrglwatson yeah on a small batt car 1.1 or 0.9 doesnt make a lot of difference in the grand scheme...well unless you are cutting it really tight (like when a charger you arrive at doesnt work - still a problem in 2020 unbelievably!)
Your wife is cute. Too bad she is blind and could not see who she married. This should be an interesting series. Everyone seems to love the Honda E.
Ha ha
Spends £25k on used EV and takes wife out for lunch at one of our finest country hotels - won the lottery Ian?
Lol 😂 I dont play so the odds are certainly stacked against me ha ha
Nice to have you back, it was you who converted me to EVs , I am on my 2nd one now .
Thats awesome Gary! Congrats on your EV’s
failing to plan is planning to fail, not setting up a couple of different charge accounts before you set off,.... incredible.
I think most chargers in Australia are still free or where in Queensland and main HI way in nsw I hear.
on all the English channels I have seen you always have trouble with the charge stations .
you do seem to be a very calm ;person so maybe such things dont bother you.
Whole things a total mess over here, not as simple as just making sure you have some apps installed. Its like pot luck each and every time
This car looks really cool. But the low range and high price makes this a dud for most buyers i recon.
Agree... unless they open up the full 35.5kwh at some point!
Renault Zoe and Honda E head to head.....Aquarium vs Aquarium.
ha ha, one day.
BP Polar, sorry, BP Pulse (sigh) are getting worse with their customer service response time. So glad I’ve got an RFID card that seems to work reliably,
Yer but when you get Pulse app setup it works well lot better than instant app never worked for people we spoke to so we got plus card too
@@nickieredshaw7835 polar plus doesn’t seem to work in the app.
@@SirHackaL0t. o I will find out next year when re sub
Do they no longer issue cards? All by app now?
@@IanSampsonRLO o that’s not good then 😭
If this had a 170-200 mile range and a decent size boot not massive just decent Honda would struggle to make them fast enough as it’s an awesome car otherwise
If they unlocked the full capacity (or gave the option to) it would be spot on. I mean the battery is big enough in reality to do around 150...its just that its capped much lower.
@@IanSampsonRLO Do you know if there is anyone out there that could unlock the capacity apart from Honda?
Ah now! If you said you're doing 50,000 miles in it and it has 2,700 on the clock, your 50,000 should end at 52,700! 😶
No chance! If I could have bought one with 10,000 on it already I would have jumped at the chance, I know I can do 50,000 miles...the important question is can the Honda E do 50,000 trouble free.
@@IanSampsonRLO 😬
@@IanSampsonRLO I guess it will be reliable as it’s a Honda I did 85000 ish miles in 6 years in 06 civic and never had a problem. Was great car to own and drive . as you said the e need more range if they did civic size ev with 200+ miles range with same tech as honda e at sensible price I would be interested.
Unsubscribed bye
Why?
See ya Mark! All the best.
Sorry but this is completely pointless I won't be watching who wants an over priced honda EV
Sorry to hear that.
Average UK car commute per year in the UK for 2018 - 788 miles. You don't have to satisfy every user, still a huge market to go for in the short commute sector.
@@Festoolification 788 miles in how long ? A year or a month? I did that in under a month! Then did about that in social mile too .
Completely pointless to who? Slightly confused to the logic.