Tesla Model Y - Buy Now or Wait for Juniper? What We Know
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Derek Reilly from Nevo.ie takes a drive and chats about what we know about the upcoming Model Y refresh code named Project Juniper.
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0:00 Intro
0:59 The Dilemma
1:47 China Soft Update / Slight Update
3:26 Parking Sensors
4:11 StalkGate
5:34 Exterior Changes
6:50 Nevo Electric Vehicle Show
7:19 Aero and Ride Comfort
8:16 Interior Changes
9:52 Battery, Charging and Range
11:58 When and Where will get Juniper?
12:25 Prices, Offers and Value
13:04 350kW Charging
13:23 Prices in Ireland
14:09 What do you think?
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More power, more range, better sound proofing, rear mini screen and many more, all at the same price. It's a no brainer.
Some people are happy with the current but all valid points for sure
The current Y already has surround acoustic glass and more sound proofing so can’t see them adding more tbh - it’s already at the level of the highland
Depends if they eventually offer it at 0.0% apr to clear the existing stock like they did with the old model 3. A 0% model Y performance is very tempting.
No indicator stalks!
Highland all wrapped up was first seen Mar‘23 and first deliveries end Nov’23. We’re not close to Juniper yet, especially the Performance version
For Americans I would assume a year to wait. Most likely no tax credits. So paying full price, no discounts for small upgrades, and 10-20% battery. I am glad with the model Y I picked up in Dec
The biggest update is the refinement, being a long term Model 3 and Model Y owner, I never feel like they offer a nice refined feel. Apprently, Highland, and therefore Juniper does. By that stage, hopefully after market stalks are available.
Good points! Thanks for the comments
Current y with a soft update - re suspension softening & less road noise would on a discounted price prior to Juniper launch would be great value imo, had one for 400kms recently & both those areas I think could be better. Great video again Derek, looking forward to Feb 17th 👌
Thanks Joe. The soft update could be the sweet spot for some for sure
Can we expect Juniper on Feb?
Thanks for the video!
I tested the new highland that doesn't have the stalks around Portugal and there are a LOT of roundabouts here - it's horrible!!! But I love the slick design though
Thanks for the info!
I forgot to mention the ventilated and heather seats coming too!
Juniper will also include the Tesla logo door lights projector that displays the logo on the ground when you open the door correct?
Just ordered my Model Y. Current private lease price (June 2024) in UK is amazing.
Congrats!
Any word on new Supercharger locations Derek? Great video thanks.
None that I've heard of yet
Do you know something about 7 seater Model Y version?Thanks in advance, I´m waiting for it
I will run my 23 Y RWD for the next 10-15 years and then look at a replacement ....
Great video with the mic 🎤 working 😂
Makes a big difference alright! 🤣🤣
So you think battery will last for 10 years?
Yea why not it is guaranteed for 70%at 8 years if it's any less new battery 😊
Not sure if the battery will last that long. Too bad they didn’t put an LFP in the ‘23 Model Y RWD. That will for sure last that long if not more
@Alec15000 it is lfp in rwd 23 model Y in Ireland
As nothing has actually been confirmed, if you are happy to wait however long it takes for the soft refresh or Juniper to be released (the soft refresh may never be available outside of China) then wait. If you need a car not then just get one.
Agree!
Test drove the new model 3 base model last week in CA - nice experience. Liked the new look both interior and exterior. (even the textile dash - it softens the spartan look) Vent seats great for CA and with two kids the back screen is a +! Also to amend edit - new steering wheel design = much better.
Main take away - Uncertain about the stalks removal ... likely a getting accustomed to it feature. Was mentioned by the sale rep - that the regen braking system was always active. Really into the Y for the family - but the "wait or not wait" for the refresh is the question for me and this vid brings up some added points to consider for IRL- Appreciate the vpost Derek!
Thanks for the comment and info David. I really appreciate it
Took a model 3 highland out for a spin other day and got used to no stalks real quick excited for the new y cant wait for it to come out esp the performance
I ordered a '24 Model Y 2 weeks ago, picked it up a week later at the Tesla Store in Oklahoma City. Got a Austin, TX build Long Range with stealth grey interior and white seats. $41.5K out the door. Already have a 240v 50amp plug in the garage, so easy to charge in my garage. Tesla gave me 5000 miles of free supercharging. Steering wheel stalks are a must have for me, so I'm completely happy with my purchase. In my state, front license plates are not required, so I got to keep the sleek front fascia of the vehicle.
Nice! Great to hear from actual owners. Sounds like great value
Thanks Derek. You covered it all. For me the indictator stalks would be a problem. But if you don't change things you never know what is the best. Think tesla will revert though.
I'm not so sure they will Des!
For me the ventilated seats are a must! The seats in the current model makes it so hot for my back
And depends on your local weather
I rented a Tesla last fall on vacation in the Los Angeles area. There were times when it felt like ventilated seats would have been nice to have.
Living in Portugal makes this a very serious thing to ponder. I'm not very keen on adding some fabric seat covers.
Thanks for the video,@@NevoEVReviewIreland
The perfect video I was waiting for. Placed an order for a 2023 model Y about 1 month ago, still no VIN number.. still have a chance to cancel. I do love the model 3 highland upgraded features - makes it seem like almost a new car, not just a typical refresh. Seriously thinking about cancelling my order for the new Juniper but no idea when it’ll come to Australia.
I doubt it will be this year.
Thanks for the comments and glad the video is sparking conversation
I’ve got a 2022 M3 and will be waiting to trade it in for the Juniper. Not that I need the latest and greatest thing. I just wanted to “step up” to the MY, and am willing to wait for these upgrades. Cheers from West Virginia!
@@jayhache5609 I suppose if u can wait, it’s worth waiting for. I’m happy to take 2024 non Juniper right now as need a car and can’t risk the juniper being delayed until 2025!
The new version is naturally improved than the old version. 😊
I'd hope so 🤣
@@NevoEVReviewIreland New hardware🚀
What is your experience with parking? Without sensors. Thinking on model y now but I have no idea if the visual only is ok..
I found it good. I always reverse into a space too so no issues the weeks I had it
If you can wait it sounds a lot better cheers mate
Some will wait for sure
I have a '21 with parking sensors and wondering if it's my imagination or not as my newly updated software doesn't have the new 3D overhead view that looks as good as on yours?....Does it look better on models that only have cameras?
It's just on the version without sensors first so they are prioritising the camera only cars to start
Because these cars are 90% tech and 10% conventional cars, I always go for the newest version as it will tend to last the longest before being outdated
True but also potentially paying a premium. Tesla in fairness kept the same pricing for Model 3 Highland
Heres a good question for you that will help me. If I buy now, and in a Year trade it in to tesla for Juniper, how will the $$ trade in value might work for me?
No idea!
Not in any rush so will wait it out. That being said, if I'm able to get free FSD + 0% + crazy low inventory price- Would definitely give some thought to a '23 model y
Decisions decisions
Wow, very good review. I have to say, you know your Tesla stats my man! Usually i'm underwhelmed with reviewers not knowing all the ins and outs that make Tesla so special, the safety, the features, the tech, but whining about no HUD and apple car play. But you really know your facts. You even know about the cybertruck 48v advantages, steer by wire etc. I hope they bring those features to the new Juniper Model Y.
I appreciate that!
I would say wait for it. I expect it to be as good as the new model 3. Me, I am waiting ❤❤❤
New model 3 is great? It looks like an AI generated ccar. Teslas are just so plain jane and boring. I didn't think it could get any worse then I saw the interior with no HUD or gauge clusters 😂😂
Thanks both for the comments. Tesla for sure is not for everyone
If the Juniper comes out of China in Q2, when do you think is going to be available for ordering in Europe?
I think end of Q3 for Q4 deliveries but a total guess
one thing you forgot to mention, is that the battery will be improved huge, it is new CATL LFP battery that is the best for cold weather.
Bye bye $7500 tax credit if you live in the US
Do the old features such as rattling & misaligned gaps come with the refresh?
Meow 🤣🤣
That's an "extra cost" option...
Tesla needs to bring back front and rear parking sensors and turning / wiper stalks and steering wheel center horn. These are features middle and senior drivers are familiar and accustom to in North America. If not these drivers will not purchase Teslas and will put off purchasing an EV until automakers offer an EV that has these features, IHMO.
They seem fairly adamant they wont
The Tesla Y price was recently cut. The base price is now ~42k.
Is this just for the remaining stock or will that price point remain the same for the Juniper model?
I have the same question.. TM3 Higland kept the same price right ?
If like the M3 price stayed the same
No confirmation yet
Will Model Y Juniper come with steer-by-wire ?
Not so sure! May be too much of a jump
Current model y comes with premium stereo even on the lowest spec RWD. In the model 3 you have to go top spec to get this stereo
Thanks for the comment
Just bought our Model Y RWD. We had the opportunity to take over the free supercharging from our Model S. That had to be before 2024. But we wouldn't wait for the Juniper. Right now the Y is a great buy. Has a great ride and feels very solid. Cars always get better, but that doesn't mean the current model isn't great allready😉 Only the "parking sensors" are a disgrace for Tesla 😬
Have to agree 👍🏻
Great news on the supercharging too!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland It was the main reason to buy 😉
A few days ago Tesla offered transferring free supercharging and FSD. Along with the instant $7500 tax credit AND up to $5K inventory discount…I can’t pass up this opportunity as much as I’d love to wait for the Juniper long range model Y.
@@motownbaby Totally understandable, great offer! Hope you have a good time with your Y RWD. We enjoy it very much!
Filmed in Mercer Vale? I live there
I will wait the model Y Juniper performance version.
Good choice
Love Teslas but I'm thinking of getting a Fisker Ocean because there are just too many Teslas around.
Review coming soon 😉
Any chance we get a 6 seat model?
Not looking like it yet here but would be a game changer
I'm considering a second hand.
Sounds like a few are thinking the same
Are the prices you mentioned inclusive of grants
Yes, sorry I should have clarified
I just ordered my model Y performance with the midnight cherry red color. The 5k discount plus 0% interest rate on leasing did it for me. Besides I like having stokes.
Is it 0%...finance showing up at 6.9 % ,with sandyford tesla
@@Mithun-jp6iw depends on the country I suppose, but here in Switzerland and most of Europe, the leasing for the current model Y is at 0% interest rate from January to march 2024.
Good choice man. I will be test driving this week. Pricing is absolutely crazy competitive at the moment. Greetings from Zurich 👋
@@Acid78yeah but don't wait too long or take a preconfigured one as you need the car to be delivered before the end of March to take advantage of the 0% interest leasing. (I live in Zürich too)
@@tyrionas At the moment there is a 2 to 3 week delivery window so it should be fine if the order goes out this or next week. I'm a bit worried about the chassis and suspension comfort as I've heard a lot of bad things about it. How do you feel about this in your vehicle?
Test drove a Model Y this week. I live in a rural area of the UK with bad roads. The current Model Y is really too rough a ride in this area, I don't care for the wood trim and the whole package is a bit bland. It's Juniper update or not at all for me. I love the interior changes I've seen on the new Model 3 and it's universally described as a smoother and more refined ride.
Yes, but will have to be driven too to see if the improvement is enough
I don't understand the move to remove stalks. They will push potential buyers away to save what... 50-100 dollars in production?
Sales numbers will tell a tale
About the stalks - its coming soon by a 3rd party company called enhauto, the same company making the S3XY buttons. They are developing the stalks now and it should be out soon for the new refreshed model 3 and Y. I agree it was a bad decision to remove the stalks and Ultrasonic sensors. I have a 2022 Model Y and absolutely love it. I don't think i'll ever not have a Tesla after owning one.
They have very good customer retention in fairness
Same. I like my 2022 M3 better than my old 2018 Mercedes E400. It’s smoother, quieter, and far more fun to drive! I can’t imagine going back to anything less, including most any ICE vehicle.
Good video as always. I have the current Y very good car. Dont think the juniper will add anything in addition to whats been added on the . model 3 highland. Think the front end much nicer and interior will look better too. Unfort think will have no stalks either which is a big negative.
Thanks Ciaran, it's getting a good reaction alright.
As an existing Model 3 (with stalks) owner , I wouldn't buy one without the stalks. Tesla do a lot of things better than others, but this is not one of those things. I understand why some would be looking at older 3 & Ys.
A company called enhauto is developing 3rd party stalks that should be released soon, it will only cost like $200 (I think).
What does tesla do better? This car looks like a blob of a car and I didn't think it could get any worse till I saw the interior! No HUD or Gauge clusters? A single ipad to scroll for everything.. what a dull and plain jane car. If anything this is going backwards tech wise
Thanks all for the comments!
@@user-my4xu4gf1z What does Tesla do better? Only over the best over the air updates, autopilot, video games, highest NHTSA safety ratings, sentry mode to record all events around the car, fastest acceleration of any SUV, voice commands, integrated dashcam, zero emissions, dog mode, camp mode, remote camera viewing, control the car speed via app, traffic aware cruise control, lane keeping, lane departure avoidance/assist, AEB auto emergency breaking, forward collision warning, obstacle aware acceleration, blind spot monitoring, red light warning, stop light warning, Tesla supercharging network, Netflix, Hulu, and youtube, full glass roof, cheaper to drive and almost no maintenance, one pedal driving, amazing sound system, lightshow, frunk, 76 cubic ft of space, Tesla insurance, IIHS Top Safety Pick+ Award, summon, collision avoidance, bio weapon defense mode, HEPA filtration, external speaker, incredible navigation system on 15" touchscreen, locate car via app, impossible to steal with PIN code, costs $0 to drive if you have solar panels, and kids love Tesla's. Thats just a few reasons, there are much more. Best cars ever.
If the differences between the current model and Juniper are anything like the Model 3 upgrade, then I would recommend trying to get the current car as cheap as possible. The improvements are not worth waiting for and certainly not enough to overcome the lack of stalks.
MODEL Y HAS 7 RECALLS
I would take better suspension, better efficiency which ties into more range and ambient lights over a lack of stalks any day.
@@bigredog100 Efficiency differences are marginal, at best, because it is purely down to slightly better aerodynamics. And the suspension is better, but much softer tyres cancel out any handling benefits. I honestly didn't think it was much different to my exiting model 3, which is a recent build from China. The lack of an indicator stalk is terrible for trying to indicate when the wheel is turned, you will always have to look down at the wheel and do some mental gymnastics to use the buttons. If you can get a late Chinese or German built model Y, you are better off saving a bunch of money, if have access to discounts.
Exactly, moreover, it’s gonna be the last one sith the stalks, so better resale value. The actual lfp model y entry level is the best deal.
im going to wait 😍 the new one will be much better
I thought there would be more like you across my social posts but it's not as clear cut as some prefer the value of a discounted current model
I picked up the Model Y Performance with $10,000 off. Saving me $28,000 over the price my cousin paid only one year ago.
bought mine now, here in germany they reduced the price by over 10% and offered 0% Financing for 5 years. The new version that might come in the next 6-12 months will probably cost around 55-60K EUR and have 7% interest on financing, probably costing over 10K EUR in all comparing to the offer now.
Serious value now
Now, in my country MYSR is 42.000 eur
The new modell shall 100% be 48.000 eur.
So, I'll buy one in the next months
Nice! Thanks for the comment
Tesla really needs to up its game with the driving range... Hopefully, the new model Y will do just that, all while keeping the price below 40K and all while the 7.5K credit is still available in the US!
Thanks for the comment
I just bought a 2024 Y and got to transfer my FSD from my 2019 model 3 for free, got $2500 off for picking a unit they had in stock locally and got the $7500 tax rebait for the win. Won't get the FSD transfer or $2500 off the new refresh. I paid $6k for FSD on the 2019.
Nice deals. Good to hear from an owner
How would you even know what's in it?
All speculation
The slight chance interest rates come down here, I’ll wait.
It's definitely a waiting game
Hello mate any Tesla has been a good Tesla
Not everyone would agree
@@NevoEVReviewIreland true
Wait even another year or two, even Juniper will become old. Probably as soon as 2025 new revised battery systems are coming.
2:53 reason of why i will waiting juniper
Agree
I would wait personally as the kids would appreciate that rear screen for watching Netflix and so on. 👍
Seriously? No phone or iPad. I was hoping they just put physical controls for the heated seats. Sure now you can control the "fan", but still no third climate zone.
Thanks both for the comments.
My current car has a volume rocker on the steering wheel. The amount of cognitive load to adjust the volume (thinking of wheel position and which direction the thing needs to move) while moving the wheel is a lot. How they thought this was ok for something as fundamental as indicator stalks is beyond me.
Sales numbers will tell a tale
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Tesla could put a spike on the steering wheel and someone would still buy it.
Spike steering wheel?! Count me in! ; ) @@robadobdob
Aren't anyone worried that you buy it today and in 2 months or so one Elon decide to reduce the price? Honest question, because that's the only thing I'm like if I pay today x amount and down the line they drop the price, that would affect the resell value and I'll be felling ripped!! Haha thanks
must wait, wait,wait ...for the new update one 'Juniper' end of 2024😇
Tick tok
Have you driven the original M3? Highland is a much better car and no reason to think they will not do th same shanger to junioer makes it worth the wait. It should be out mid 2024, not that faw into the future
I have a number of times, I've just not driven the Highland yet
Going with this Y because of the stalks.
A few have said the same
I've just ordered a MY. Tried the new M3 without stalks and was a nightmare indicating before the next exit on roundabouts in the UK. M3 was a lovely car though. In any case, the current Tesla lease deal on the MY was much better than the new M3 and too good to resist. Cheers.
People need to relax about the stalks. Change is the nature of life itself. If you drive with the push pull, hands at 180 degrees from each other, instead of dangerously crossing your arms over, then the button indicators are fine. I will gratefully receive all the juniper updates for the tiny sacrifice of adapting to no stalks. Unfortunately so many people are snowflakes and victums theses day🙃
Ha! I'm looking forward to driving it
The front of this is incredibly ugly so I'd wait. Also, hopefully they slightly lower the roof line to make it less bulbous in profile.
I haven't seen any indication the of the Juniper being in production anywhere yet.
Coming soon with leaked images out of China
I believe 800V and 48v architecture is wishful thinking for Juniper. Too big changes for a facelift. New cars from the scratch could have them if financially viable. Longer range LFP battery would be a killer feature
I test drove the latest model S Plaid and the indicator buttons with a total PITA.
There is supposed to be a company introducing an after market product, I agree, total fail
Let see how many new Tesla Model 3 they sell without the stalks
Noticed your review near Cherrywood. Not far from me. Would like to join up for review in my language with you. Not share how to reach you.
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It’s exactly gonna be like the highland. The only good thing will be the new shock absorber. Anything else is useless for me.
It's definitely on the firmer side
"Ever since the Tesla Cybertruck was spotted charging, people suspected that Tesla's 4680 cells were as bad as they were on the Model Y. The first documented Cybertruck charging curve confirms this, showing that the Tesla Cybertruck spends a lot of time charging."
Intertesting!
Just placed my order for rwd Model Y 42k 0 interest HP no brainier
I am not in a hurry -so i wait - IN DK the Tesla sales person told me that he have more end more persons who stop or cancel the Y order, when they better like the new design on highland, but they woulld have a Y. I think this stop costing Tesla big missing sales numbers, see all the new E cars showing up now. See the new VW style models filed up with a lot of packedes, new Peugoet E 33008, new Reneault
Lots of options coming which is great
Higher ground clearance please. With only 17cm it's certainly NOT an SUV
Not sure that's going to happen
@@NevoEVReviewIreland If only Tesla presented a normal SUV with off road capabilities..
Worth nothing the grey cloth in the highland is only on the standard range, the long range has black suede. TBH, the grey is going to get dirty. The roof liner still being grey is a joke for the same reason. Centre rear seat heater removed also.
Noted! Thanks for the comment
In the US you buy the year you get tax credit
A big deciding factor it seems
If you’re ne of those humans who can use their hands, buy now. If not, wait for all tactile functions to be removed.
😂
Маленькие раки но по три рубля. Или большие но по пять!😂
Thanks for the comment
buy, JUNIPER will NOT come until end of this year
There's the answer
WAIT
Seems those who are commenting are saying the same thing
Cheap interiors, hard seats, no beige color, no demo software intro version, downward revision of range, and odd climate control.
Thanks for the comment
I would not buy any first year model, even Toyota. If Juniper comes out this year, the earliest to buy would be end of 2025. So if you want Model Y, lease one now and after 3 years, switch to Juniper
Some people would be of the same mindset. Early adoption for new models has its pros and cons
Such a frumpy looking car. Its not in anyway a good looking car and no dash or indicator stalks so no thanks.
Thanks for the comment. Some agree and some disagree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
The current Y is ugly. The new one is an improvement
I agree, I prefer the new styling
I love electric cars but this is just giving electric cars a bad name. Its basically an applience on wheels. At least the model S had style and a proper dash this thing has neither. Maybe the revamp will be better but I would still not buy it and them seats in that white just look like they would be a nightmare to keep clean.
It’s a computer on wheels. The white seats as extremely easy to keep clean, even with kids. Would buy another one with a white interior in a heartbeat.
Thanks for the comments both. I hear that a lot from Tesla owners re how easy the white seats are to keep
Distracted drivers unite!
Thanks for the comment
Wait Juniper.Dont buy now.
I wonder when we'll hear more