This has to be the best video I have ever seen coming from an FCPX user. I searched and have asked for years how I can do something similar to FCPX, which is the fastest way of editing for me. In FCPX I hit I/O F and can blaze through my clips and choose just my favorites. then build my timeline from those favorite selects. I cannot believe after asking for years nobody told me about this way of doing it. SO THANKS!!! I have P as append to end of timeline but will change it to make a sub clip and try your method which seems the best way of doing. The only thing I cannot figure out is When I have them all selected I tried your command to put them into a folder but that does not work. I have to manually make a new folder or bin and drag them there which is not difficult. But did you set up Davinci to make a folder from those selects or is that suppose to be a default DR command bc it does not work for me.
Thank you for this video. Yesterday I was editing a video and decided to use this technique. I have to admit, it's fantastic. It will certainly be part of my process. I usually use 3-point editing and now I'm going to combine the two methods to make my process even more organized and agile. Thank you for such high-quality content! This inspires me to create a channel to share my knowledge as well. I've already done this individually in groups. I want to take this to UA-cam! You're awesome!
This is really valuable - I have not found too many people talking about their mindset while editing, and getting into this level of detail. I'm currently about to work on a weeks worth of drone footage, and this style of additive workflow seems like a perfect fit for making sense of all those clips.
As I grew up as a film editor in television this is a similar way we used to work. We would choose our clips from rushes viewed on a PicSync or Moviola and hang them up in a bin. Then these were the clips we rearranged to create the edit. I have always thought that this is where the Cut Page comes in as you can view all the rushes as a timeline and choose the clips from there. I am really not sure why more people don't use the Cut Page for the initial selection and viewing of rushes. I think also it can be useful to do a rough cut (another thing we used to often do as film editors) before refining it in the Edit Page. Maybe it is just they were never film editors originally.
There’s so much value for us in understanding how editing originated with film. Something I’m trying to learn more about. Also the cut page admittedly is somewhere I need to spend more time in to fully understand the workflow. Thanks for the reminder!
@@JoshuaKirkNZ Joshua not sure if you have seen this ua-cam.com/video/lB933a1CF1Y/v-deo.htmlsi=vdmbFcKRlL6lSjPa but this is how I grew up editing. With a PicSync and bins.
I use to work this way but I feel like it's not my favorite workflow personally. I was exactly working on basketball events with 7 hours of rushes. Method 1 : I was creating IO points, use a shortcut to convert them into duration marker, and another shortcut to tag them (dance, laugh, public, player, shot, dunk etc) and use smart bins to regroup by tag. Method 2 : same thing but with subclip. Method 3 : creating timeline stringouts with a scene number. Scene number by theme replacing the tagging stuff I was doing. Scene 2 = dance, scene 6 = dunk, scene 5 = showcase and so on. I think I found subclips can be messy with lots of rushes but I don't have yet a strict close advice on this.
Wow this is a much better workflow. Creating constraints around what you as an editor have access to while decreasing the amount of clicking, dragging and scrubbing. Thank you so much for this!
This is one of the best channels for video editing. Concise and provides the explanations for the thought process. May the algorithm eventually reward you as richly as deserved, Josh! (Might even be a talking point for the end matter: “I hear from a lot of people that what I am doing is really helpful, but it’s a little different than the flashy videos. If you want more of this you should subscribe because UA-cam may not show my videos to you otherwise”, something like that. Consider it…)
Great video man. I've been looking for something similar to Final Cut Pro's "Favorites" system when organizing, and I think this may be exactly what I'm looking for. I was creating timelines for selects and it honestly felt so clunky and inefficient.
Thanks for this tutorial, I tried getting my clients to move to this way of editing but they don't like it & I understand why. This method is best suited for solo creators or for those who shoot exactly to script & edit to script. My clients want to see all the takes & then decide which one they want for final timeline, so in my case I send them all the proofs which include all the takes along with file number, they select the final file numbers. After thire selection I start editing in trim edit mode, that way I have whole length of clip available to me right up to final version & clients often want to cut short or add bit more in the final version, so trim edit helps. Using the sub clip method that would not be easy as will require many sub clips to be recreated.
You can edit sub clips in the timeline with handles so that should be possible. I send clients dailies as well, but often do a quick breakdown so they just see the ‘useable’ footage.
Beautiful video. Precise but good pacing, perfect to show the process and I learn new hotkeys. Thank you so much, hope you're having a great day. New sub.
You remind me of the Hillsong Church editing team in Sydney in the 2008-2012 era. I was there as a student and hung around the editors in the edit suites gleaning as much as I could from them. Your approach is exactly how I saw them working. Not sure if this is a complement in your eyes, but I do mean this as a compliment to you.
2:45 I'm trying to set-up hotkeys for cycling through clips in the media pool while it plays, but can't find it. Any chance you can provide the name, or even a list for the shortcut names you use? I find it hard to search for them all.
Yeah subtractive works for most things. It’s also less creatively taxing. Additive really comes into its own on a large project and particularly when you start painting pictures over your working timeline.
Great video, Joshua. Concise and well explained concept. My one hesitation with subclips is the loss of handles on either side of the sub-clip. Sometimes in/out points of a sub-clip need to be adjusted after they're in an edit on the timeline and with sub-clips you're 'locked in' to your in/out points chosen at the start. I know you could always pop back into the source footage and generate a new sub-clip if you needed to, but it's one minor annoyance about this approach over subtractive.
I was worried about this as well. You can actually right click and edit source clip to extend it, or when you first generate the sub clip you can preserve the handles.
Excellent video Josh! I'm new to DaVinci coming from Premiere and your videos are already helping a lot. I'm just very curious to know if you ever use the cut page in DaVinci, and if you do what is it that you do there? Haha thank you very much!
FCPX user here …….frustrated with the ‘Forced’ OS upgrades just to get a magic mask…..so I am looking at resolve. Question I have is after you make your selects, and you mention 2 weeks later, is there a way for Resolve to show you all the selects (and portions of) that have NOT been used? This is something FCP does do, and is critical when working on multiple projects, & you come back later:)
I was so excited to use this method, but when I went to apply it to an ongoing project to speed it up, I encountered a problem that I don't know how to solve. Apparently it's an old bug, but I haven't found a solution yet. Simply put, the subclips don't respect the In and Out duration and are created as if they had Use Full Extents activated, but the problem is that after the section delimited by the In and Out in the original clip, the subclip starts showing Media Offline. This is really frustrating. I'm going to try using this workflow again in a new project, but for now, unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
Hey Josh thank you for the video. I am not sure if I am going to switch from selecting the Files in the timeline than Doing in the media page. We will See
This is very much the way Final Cut X approaches editing. Having recently switched to Resolve I still really miss the speed and simplicity of FCPx handles “subclips” using keywords (or favorite) assigned to any segment of a clip defined by a In and Out point. A way to mimic this in Resolve is turning In and outs into Duration markers and apply keywords there. That will automatically create a keyword smartbin in which you will find the subclip corresponding to your In and Out point. Not sure I’m clear .. it’s actually more complicated to explain than to do .. (even if resolve is still far from the streamlined workflow of FCP in that regard)
I’ve never used Final Cut for a full project but I hear a lot that this is the main feature keeping people in Final Cut. I’m agree there are lots of things I wish Davinci would implement, but I’m hopeful it will develop quickly.
Great video! Your content is so helpful. Question... your "shift-J/L" which goes from clip to clip in the browser.. that seems to work when your in the browser window, but when you go from your I/O - subclip, it doesn't work. Do you have to select something else to get back to browser so that works?
Joshua, thank you a lot for reviewing this approach. Still it is so way far from being comfortable and effective. Hopefully the DaVinci Resolve Team will be able to make the selection process at least close to the workflow presented in FCPX (it is so fast and easy there with using favorites) I use subclips myself - it's great that you can add keywords to them and organize all of the footage, but pressing Enter each time when you do a lot of selection is crazy :) Also there are some bug reports when using Subclips for files when proxies are connected (audio shifts). I experienced it myself several times, the only workaround I found is to not attach the proxies but to relink the original files to proxies. Also there is a bug when you want to combine both of the approaches - move selected clips from the timeline to a separate bind and create subclips for those parts. It doesn't work the proper way and there is no opportunity to create multiple subclips at once. I also explored the duration markers workflow (the logic there is very close to the FCPX) but working with them is even worse (no ability to preview the selected parts)
I am finding--new user, Resolve's selections OK. Coming from Premiere it's' quite impressive, as a professional software tool. BMR is effective--yet still a few car lengths behind Premiere, but it is certainly on the autobarn to becoming the go-too editing software; as opposed to its very well known colour grading position. I hate the subscription model of Adobe and BMR is by far the best option to make a transition. Thank you for the tute!
Yes I agree with all of this. FinalCut workflow with favourites is really awesome. One of the main features I wish Davinci had is that ability to create sub clips from a range of clips in a timeline, especially when you have created a sync with audio manually in the timeline. It is really stopping the ability to use a subtractive method of breaking down your footage in a timeline.
This has to be the best video I have ever seen coming from an FCPX user. I searched and have asked for years how I can do something similar to FCPX, which is the fastest way of editing for me. In FCPX I hit I/O F and can blaze through my clips and choose just my favorites. then build my timeline from those favorite selects. I cannot believe after asking for years nobody told me about this way of doing it. SO THANKS!!! I have P as append to end of timeline but will change it to make a sub clip and try your method which seems the best way of doing.
The only thing I cannot figure out is When I have them all selected I tried your command to put them into a folder but that does not work. I have to manually make a new folder or bin and drag them there which is not difficult. But did you set up Davinci to make a folder from those selects or is that suppose to be a default DR command bc it does not work for me.
Josh your vids have transformed my editing workflow - please keep 'em coming!
Appreciate this! Thanks for the support and glad they are helping.
Thank you for this video. Yesterday I was editing a video and decided to use this technique. I have to admit, it's fantastic. It will certainly be part of my process. I usually use 3-point editing and now I'm going to combine the two methods to make my process even more organized and agile. Thank you for such high-quality content! This inspires me to create a channel to share my knowledge as well. I've already done this individually in groups. I want to take this to UA-cam! You're awesome!
This is really valuable - I have not found too many people talking about their mindset while editing, and getting into this level of detail. I'm currently about to work on a weeks worth of drone footage, and this style of additive workflow seems like a perfect fit for making sense of all those clips.
great videos thanks for all the content you share
As I grew up as a film editor in television this is a similar way we used to work. We would choose our clips from rushes viewed on a PicSync or Moviola and hang them up in a bin. Then these were the clips we rearranged to create the edit.
I have always thought that this is where the Cut Page comes in as you can view all the rushes as a timeline and choose the clips from there. I am really not sure why more people don't use the Cut Page for the initial selection and viewing of rushes. I think also it can be useful to do a rough cut (another thing we used to often do as film editors) before refining it in the Edit Page. Maybe it is just they were never film editors originally.
There’s so much value for us in understanding how editing originated with film. Something I’m trying to learn more about. Also the cut page admittedly is somewhere I need to spend more time in to fully understand the workflow. Thanks for the reminder!
The "Source Tape" feature in the Cut page is gold for doing this - especially when used with the Speed Editor
@@JoshuaKirkNZ Joshua not sure if you have seen this ua-cam.com/video/lB933a1CF1Y/v-deo.htmlsi=vdmbFcKRlL6lSjPa but this is how I grew up editing. With a PicSync and bins.
I use to work this way but I feel like it's not my favorite workflow personally. I was exactly working on basketball events with 7 hours of rushes.
Method 1 : I was creating IO points, use a shortcut to convert them into duration marker, and another shortcut to tag them (dance, laugh, public, player, shot, dunk etc) and use smart bins to regroup by tag.
Method 2 : same thing but with subclip.
Method 3 : creating timeline stringouts with a scene number. Scene number by theme replacing the tagging stuff I was doing. Scene 2 = dance, scene 6 = dunk, scene 5 = showcase and so on.
I think I found subclips can be messy with lots of rushes but I don't have yet a strict close advice on this.
Great video !
Wow this is a much better workflow. Creating constraints around what you as an editor have access to while decreasing the amount of clicking, dragging and scrubbing. Thank you so much for this!
Hope it helps!
This is one of the best channels for video editing. Concise and provides the explanations for the thought process. May the algorithm eventually reward you as richly as deserved, Josh!
(Might even be a talking point for the end matter: “I hear from a lot of people that what I am doing is really helpful, but it’s a little different than the flashy videos. If you want more of this you should subscribe because UA-cam may not show my videos to you otherwise”, something like that. Consider it…)
Appreciate this, means a lot! Thanks for the video script as well, I’ll keep that in mind :-)
Interesting workflow. I always worked in a
"substractive mode" and after watching this video I decided to try an "additive" one
It’s a great way to stay fresh and get into a different mindset with the same footage.
Its Mind Blowing! Thanks for do it for us! One question, how do you set this shortcuts to change the clip you are watching?
Great video man. I've been looking for something similar to Final Cut Pro's "Favorites" system when organizing, and I think this may be exactly what I'm looking for. I was creating timelines for selects and it honestly felt so clunky and inefficient.
This man is top of his game.
Appreciate it, still learning new things every day as well!
Thanks for this tutorial, I tried getting my clients to move to this way of editing but they don't like it & I understand why. This method is best suited for solo creators or for those who shoot exactly to script & edit to script. My clients want to see all the takes & then decide which one they want for final timeline, so in my case I send them all the proofs which include all the takes along with file number, they select the final file numbers.
After thire selection I start editing in trim edit mode, that way I have whole length of clip available to me right up to final version & clients often want to cut short or add bit more in the final version, so trim edit helps. Using the sub clip method that would not be easy as will require many sub clips to be recreated.
You can edit sub clips in the timeline with handles so that should be possible. I send clients dailies as well, but often do a quick breakdown so they just see the ‘useable’ footage.
I have never commented on a video but your content is so good. I have learned so much.
Thanks so much! Appreciate taking the time to comment! 🙏
Beautiful video. Precise but good pacing, perfect to show the process and I learn new hotkeys. Thank you so much, hope you're having a great day. New sub.
u r a beast man amazing
You remind me of the Hillsong Church editing team in Sydney in the 2008-2012 era. I was there as a student and hung around the editors in the edit suites gleaning as much as I could from them. Your approach is exactly how I saw them working. Not sure if this is a complement in your eyes, but I do mean this as a compliment to you.
Thanks! Sounds like they may have been using Avid at the time?
2:45 I'm trying to set-up hotkeys for cycling through clips in the media pool while it plays, but can't find it. Any chance you can provide the name, or even a list for the shortcut names you use? I find it hard to search for them all.
Nice one mate! I am a subtractive editing kinda of guy, but totally see the power of additive. Great work on the video!
Yeah subtractive works for most things. It’s also less creatively taxing. Additive really comes into its own on a large project and particularly when you start painting pictures over your working timeline.
Great video, Joshua. Concise and well explained concept. My one hesitation with subclips is the loss of handles on either side of the sub-clip. Sometimes in/out points of a sub-clip need to be adjusted after they're in an edit on the timeline and with sub-clips you're 'locked in' to your in/out points chosen at the start. I know you could always pop back into the source footage and generate a new sub-clip if you needed to, but it's one minor annoyance about this approach over subtractive.
I was worried about this as well. You can actually right click and edit source clip to extend it, or when you first generate the sub clip you can preserve the handles.
@@JoshuaKirkNZ Oh neat, will try that out! Thanks :)
Just check the box in the sub-clip pop-up menu that says "preserve clip extents" and you can adjust with handles as much as you want
Learned so much (again) Thanks Joshua!
Pleasure thanks for watching!
Excellent video Josh! I'm new to DaVinci coming from Premiere and your videos are already helping a lot. I'm just very curious to know if you ever use the cut page in DaVinci, and if you do what is it that you do there? Haha thank you very much!
What about using in and outs and then doing Markers (based on range) or Keywords instead of Subclips?
FCPX user here …….frustrated with the ‘Forced’ OS upgrades just to get a magic mask…..so I am looking at resolve.
Question I have is after you make your selects, and you mention 2 weeks later, is there a way for Resolve to show you all the selects (and portions of) that have NOT been used? This is something FCP does do, and is critical when working on multiple projects, & you come back later:)
I was so excited to use this method, but when I went to apply it to an ongoing project to speed it up, I encountered a problem that I don't know how to solve. Apparently it's an old bug, but I haven't found a solution yet. Simply put, the subclips don't respect the In and Out duration and are created as if they had Use Full Extents activated, but the problem is that after the section delimited by the In and Out in the original clip, the subclip starts showing Media Offline. This is really frustrating. I'm going to try using this workflow again in a new project, but for now, unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
Hey Josh thank you for the video. I am not sure if I am going to switch from selecting the Files in the timeline than Doing in the media page. We will See
Thanks for watching. Definitely has its place for certain processes.
Shift J, k, l is new to me.. 😊 Thanks 🙏🏻
No problem, this is a custom shortcut setup for select next clip.
This is very much the way Final Cut X approaches editing. Having recently switched to Resolve I still really miss the speed and simplicity of FCPx handles “subclips” using keywords (or favorite) assigned to any segment of a clip defined by a In and Out point. A way to mimic this in Resolve is turning In and outs into Duration markers and apply keywords there. That will automatically create a keyword smartbin in which you will find the subclip corresponding to your In and Out point. Not sure I’m clear .. it’s actually more complicated to explain than to do .. (even if resolve is still far from the streamlined workflow of FCP in that regard)
I’ve never used Final Cut for a full project but I hear a lot that this is the main feature keeping people in Final Cut. I’m agree there are lots of things I wish Davinci would implement, but I’m hopeful it will develop quickly.
Great video! Your content is so helpful. Question... your "shift-J/L" which goes from clip to clip in the browser.. that seems to work when your in the browser window, but when you go from your I/O - subclip, it doesn't work. Do you have to select something else to get back to browser so that works?
Is it’Q’ ?
Joshua, thank you a lot for reviewing this approach. Still it is so way far from being comfortable and effective. Hopefully the DaVinci Resolve Team will be able to make the selection process at least close to the workflow presented in FCPX (it is so fast and easy there with using favorites)
I use subclips myself - it's great that you can add keywords to them and organize all of the footage, but pressing Enter each time when you do a lot of selection is crazy :)
Also there are some bug reports when using Subclips for files when proxies are connected (audio shifts). I experienced it myself several times, the only workaround I found is to not attach the proxies but to relink the original files to proxies.
Also there is a bug when you want to combine both of the approaches - move selected clips from the timeline to a separate bind and create subclips for those parts. It doesn't work the proper way and there is no opportunity to create multiple subclips at once.
I also explored the duration markers workflow (the logic there is very close to the FCPX) but working with them is even worse (no ability to preview the selected parts)
I am finding--new user, Resolve's selections OK. Coming from Premiere it's' quite impressive, as a professional software tool. BMR is effective--yet still a few car lengths behind Premiere, but it is certainly on the autobarn to becoming the go-too editing software; as opposed to its very well known colour grading position.
I hate the subscription model of Adobe and BMR is by far the best option to make a transition.
Thank you for the tute!
Yes I agree with all of this. FinalCut workflow with favourites is really awesome. One of the main features I wish Davinci had is that ability to create sub clips from a range of clips in a timeline, especially when you have created a sync with audio manually in the timeline. It is really stopping the ability to use a subtractive method of breaking down your footage in a timeline.
For noobs, I would show them how to use multiple timelines. It's both additive and subtractive and much easier than listing off a bunch of hotkeys.
Do you mean stacked timelines?
@@JoshuaKirkNZ yep thats the term for it.
Hi Josh
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