Remington-Lee Model 1899: A Final Smokeless Version
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The Model 1899 was the last pattern of the Remington Lee Military Rifle, following the models of 1879, 1882, and 1885. In this final guise, it was redesigned to handle new smokeless powder ammunition, with a new detachable bolt head that included two additional locking lugs. Only a few thousand were made, between 2,000 for the Michigan National Guard, 3,000 for the Cuban Rural Guard, and about 1,500 commercial production models (primarily porter and military patterns, with only a tiny number of carbines). The vast majority were chambered for .30 U.S.A. (aka .30-40), although it was also offered in 7mm Mauser, 7.65mm Mauser, .303 British, and 6mm Lee Navy.
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"The hot new thing is smokeless powder" - I see what you did there. Well played, Ian.
Paris Lee has the misfortune to have been contemporary with John Moses Browning. His excellent designs were somewhat overshadowed by Browning's much more prolific designs.
Imagine how Pedersen felt.
He wasn't really competing with Browning here. He was competing with guys like Mauser, Schlegelmilch, Mannlicher, Mosin, and Krag. Browning didn't do hardly anything with bolt actions.
To be honest, Lee's designs were not really all that excellent during his lifetime. The magazine was clever in the 1870s, but by the time he actually got it to work, Mauser and Mannlicher had far cheaper, more durable, and more useful magazine systems available. His actions were not really that impressive, and often trickier to make, so raising costs and discouraging many. His only real success was with the British, who took literally 20 years, from 1887 to 1907, to hammer out all the problems.
So Browning was not Lee's problem, Lee was his own problem, because as clever as he was, his best idea (the magazine) was really decades too early for the manufacturing technology, and only the sheer stubbornness of the British government made the Lee rifle a thing to remember.
@@genericpersonx333 And even us British got really close to adopting a Mauser style rifle as our main infantry rifle in 1913. That said, I've always enjoyed shooting No.4's and other Enfields, and never particularly felt envious of those shooting Mausers.
@@derekp2674 For sure, if I was a soldier, I would rather have me a No.4 than a Kar98k any day of the week, but I got to admit that if I was a procurement officer response for finding a weapon to arm millions of conscripts for decades, I would have to admit that Mauser guy really sorted out the important things like durability, ease of reload, and such a lot earlier and a lot cheaper than Lee did, and if it was 1899, I would be negotiating for Mausers for my army, not the Remington Lee or Lee-Enfield. Also, if I was offered a M1917 or a M1903a3, then I would hard pressed to say the Lee had anything over those Mauser derivatives.
I thought this looked a lot like the Lee-Enfield. Never knew it had a predecessor so similiar looking!
More like a cousin.
Alabama cousin? Regular cousin? Or European royalty cousin. There’s more of a difference than you’d think
Theres so many cousins/brothers/sisters of the lee-enfield that you practically wonder how they ever designed anything else.
Not a predecessor. The Lee-Enfield was introduced in 1895.
More like the Lee-Enfields embarrassingly young uncle.
This is probably the most sensible magazine cutoff that I've ever seen. Very cool.
It’s a cool design but I wish I could be activated with the magazine in. It makes sense to single load and have the magazine in reserve
In a military rifle it seems completely stupid. The point of a magazine cutoff was to slowly fire single shots until an urgent situation arose requiring rapid fire. Prior to widespread clip loading this was an extremely logical and useful thing to have. What function would this serve? If you pulled your magazine and dropped the replacement you could star single loading, I guess. Seems like extra moving parts for no real gain.
The SMLE’s was kept around basically as a safety. You could load your rifle, apply the cut off, then close the bolt without chambering a round.
It is not sensible, it can't be used to keep the magazine in reserve while the soldiers single loading the rifle which was the main function the armies want it to serve at the time, and I doubt that it is an improvement over just single loading into a rifle with a empty magazine so it is not worth the extra parts and cost.
The most sensible? This is the least sensible to me. It's not even a magazine cutoff, it's a magazine bypass, because it only works _without_ a magazine. (How do you cutoff something you don't have inserted?)
It is a sensible design if we start with the acknowledgement that the purpose armies intended to use a magazine cutoff for were obsolete at this time in history. There was no reason to cut off a loaded magazine. This design avoids the silliness while retaining some purpose in allowing the use of the rifle without a magazine.
Gosh the sound of the bolt opening is such a beautiful sound...
@Samantha Beaner careful not to cut yourself on that edge
Right? I had to rewind to watch it a couple of times.
@@Skironxd I know right!
It's a shame these didn't see further development in the US, it seems to have had a lot going for it.
I really liked the Lee straight pull design.
@@jeffreyroot6300 There must have been some British interest in the straight-pull Lee rifle. Lee sent his son to England in 1896 with one of the 1895 straight-pull rifles to try and sell it to the British military. Prince George , The Duke of Cambridge (who was the commander-in-chief of the British army) supposedly asked Lee's son "Why did you not show us this rifle before?" I would love to hear the full story of why they chose the bolt-action Lee over the straight-pull Lee to eventually develop into the SMLE.
And those 6mm Lee Navy
I had one of these in 30-40. Mine was Michigan National Guard marked, and shot rather well! the only issue was that this gun had about a 10 pound trigger pull, but was otherwise a really nice gun. Mine was missing the extractor altogether, and I had a toolmaker at work make one, but eventually found not one but TWO at gunshow from an old gunsmith's estate
It's so satisfying to be kinda right about guns. The first thing I thought to myself is that "it looks like a lee enfield" and then he says it's the same mechanism.
4:40 I've always found those magazine cut-offs to be really silly ideas, even considering the era that they came from, but this is the only example of such a design that actually makes sense for a rifle like this to have. That's a really forward thinking idea, I like it. Beautiful rifle, too.
When you have a tube magazine that take enough time to load that the total rate of fire is the same as a single shot rifle the magazine cutoff makes sense saving the magazine for when you need the burst rate. But in general it is a product of an officer class that doubted that enlisted men could use a brothel properly without supervision.
At the time a complete change of about 500 years of thinking. I gun = 1 shot , reload, then after a dozen or so shots the barrel so fouled you can't load anyway. Enter smokeless , relitivley non fouling. Ye Gadzooks Sir! The common soldiery can now fire two or more shots one after another! What about the cost? Bean counting has been with us since the first person grew a bean.
The demand for a mag cut off in British service was a very sensible idea at the time. No one knew how reliable box magazines were or how feasible it would be to reload a mag under pressure. The British therefore stated, that they would not accept a box magazine fed gun, unless the gun is capable of being operated as efficiently as a martini henry even if the magazine is faulty, empty or lost. Once magazines proved reliable it was found that the cut off allowed the rifle to be easily closed on an empty chamber even if the mag is full which is how the British carried their rifles. That is why they kept the cut offs in later service. The idea that soldiers could be ordered to single load under directed fire from an officer is why we all think of this as dumb but that idea has been shown to not be part of actual military doctrine in British service. The British muzzle loaders channel did a through job disproving that one.
I'm not sure this does make sense, since it requires removing the magazine. Unless I'm missing something, if you have an empty magazine, it's no different to dropping a cartridge directly onto the follower. If you have a full magazine you have to remove it, giving an opportunity to lose or damage the magazine, and another route for dirt ingress. The only real advantage is that if you've outright lost or never had a magazine it makes single-loading easier, which is equally true of a conventional cutoff. There's probably a reason that this system wasn't used on any other designs (as far as I can tell).
@@kyphe. Yes, sensible points. But economy was still a strong point, still is.
Oh man, that bolt disassembly is giving me Berthier flashbacks.
That’s interesting positioning on the locking lugs, I can’t recall a weapon that used both forward AND rear lugs off the top of my head.
The third lug on a 98 Mauser is just in front of the bolt handle. There are a number of other rifles that use the bolt shank as a "safety" lug.
M1908 Mondragon Semi-Auto Rifle also did. ua-cam.com/video/DU6vWFXhwk4/v-deo.html
This Remington Lee 1899 isn't any better than the Krag by a long shot but it can be modified to accept stripper clips or chargers, the Krag can't, not in practice at least. It's a simpler action and it was produced locally, local designer to boot! Why the US Army chose the Krag, I'll never understand, even with the supposed "advantage" of loading with the action closed. Keeping loose rounds in pouches or in bandoliers is generally a bad idea compared to pre-loaded magazines or chargers. It would take the disaster of facing off against Spanish Cazadores and Filipino Juramentados to show them the advantage of the Mauser. The Krag is a cool rifle mechanically but literally any other rifle would beat it in terms of reloading except the Lebel.
Chargers were developed for loading directly into the side gate. I think Norway actually adopted a version
You can k31 stripper clips loaded with 30-40 as speed loader
I have a Krag, and It's actually quite easy to reload...
I think the advantage of the Krag's loose ammunition is the ability to keep the gun topped up at all times. Of couse, chargers are better overall, but the US Army was used to carrying individual 45-70 cartridges in pouches or bandoliers, and dropping rounds into the Krag felt familiar. That's my theory, anyway.
And, as Nichoelass pointed out, a few patterns of Krag could be loaded from a charger, IIRC.
The other huge reason the krag was chosen was that it was cheap to make and "easier" to maintain that most competitiors. And cost is a huge plus in the eyes of the US Army.
Aswell as it being rather grunt proof.
The US Krag was modified to take chargers. It was called the Parkhurst Device and was never adopted because it was developed in 1901-1902. By then the US Army knew it was going to replace the Krag and saw no point in an add on for it.
Your videos get me thru drill with the national guard while being stuck at fort drum.
Thank you for your serving. Long live the Republic.
Ahh good old Drum. What unit are you with? I was a 91b with the 107th MP out of utica before they moved to the City.
@@Steve_I I'm actually appart of the other unit that is in utica.
"make sure you don't lose the extractor when you take it apart"... I had a flashback to losing the locking block out of my grandfather's P-38 ww2 bring back when I was cleaning it for him. You talk about hunting all over creation to find something... that was me.
The floating bolt head really makes one appreciate bolts that are removable as whole assemblies.
Coffee with Forgotten Weapons... Starts my day off right. Thanks Ian!
Thanks for everything you do, Ian! Looking forward to the next book!
Handsome looking rifle, and great history!
Glad I watched this one! While browsing my local racks I saw a Michigan National Guard for sale. Not my kind of thing but really cool.
Oh wow that’s awesome. I’d like one of those as someone from Michigan
@@sawyere2496 traverse city pawn shop. Will transfer to ffl
How much?
Just here to say Hello Ian have a nice day.
Ian has some nice subscribers it’s nice to see
1st order from Michigan National Guard? I'm in the State Defense Force, I wonder if these rifles are what we have in Storage in Lansing. 🤔
Could you give me the address and alarm codes.
Still in an amazing condition. Thank you for the presentation.
I’ve spent all my Saturday night watching your videos back to back
Catching up your so detailed and I’m glued to the screen
Thanks for all the time and all the trouble u go to
Thank you for that slower motion over the entire rifle and the more detailed views!
Just beautiful. These are the type of thing that got me watching this channel.
Man that one piece stock is gorgeous on a Lee action
Thank you , Ian .
Really outstanding..... Thanks Ian.
I'm always amazed at how many people watch these videos in the first couple of hours.
Patreon spill over.
The Hot new thing!Smokless powder! (Groan!) There is something about a Lee action that is always distinctive.
i really like how sleek that rifle looks.
it'd be fun to make one with modern materials to the original specs.
The magazine release inside the trigger guard... I am so glad I wasn't around and didn't have to go into battle with that rifle. I'm not trying to down the rifle but kind of a POS compared to the 98 Mauser available at the same time. Great video. Take Care and be safe, John
There'll be a hot time, Santiago, tonight....
RIP Remington.
I would bet that would handle a bit more pressure than a krag would. Almost wonder if that design could be refined a bit more....
Collectors are interesting people. They buy a gun because it's rare, no matter if it's not a good one, even though a lot of the time they are rare because it's not a good one.
Failure is fascinating
Wow! A rifle with a sensible magazine cutoff.
1pm here, thx ian
I like the "Funky" disassembly of the bolt! I wonder has that ever been used as a sales pitch?
This rifle is present in Fallout 4, in the Creation Club, it’s called “manwell rifle”
The Manwell rifle has more in common with the Mosin-Nagant and Mondragon Rifle than an Lee action rifle.
@@Alexander_C69 the magazine looks like this Lee Enfield; maybe it’s a combination of all
Beautiful condition metalwork on that example.
James Paris Lee and John Moses Browning, without their fertile minds we wouldnt have most of the greatest firearms ever made. Lee doesnt get enough accolades in my opinion.
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Inside, we both know what's been going on
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I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
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@@rempuia69 wtf
@@rempuia69 2009 wants their "joke" back.
@@LUR1FAX *OUR* joke
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
(Ooh, give you up)
(Ooh, give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
@NerfBeard ' Maybe he thinks it's old enough that it's now 'retro'?
From the AR-10 to the gatling gun cannon to this. Cuba has an extremely interesting firearms procurement program.
Not a cutoff like in later versions that is just so you can single load the gun either by design or if you are out of mags.
My watching this at 5am in the morning 🤔🤔🤔🤔 interesting. Yes yes.
You must be on Pacific time. 6AM here.
Remington has went downhill over the years
haha it took seeing a 120 year old rifle to see that
Perfectly happy with mine.
Let us not forget that Remington gave us the 03-A3 Springfield.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine and how many have you invented ?
@@jerryguerra348 I have a two foot tall stack of firearm mechanisms I've designed. Remington has gone downhill.
That is a lot older than me but in much better shape. An interesting rifle.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE LOOKS NICE
Very informative. Seems the UK has been using American rifle inventions for a long time: Snider Enfield, Peabody Martini, Lee Enfield, etc.
And please don't forget the AR-18. The SLR / FAL appears to be an obvious exception, but isn't that similar in some respects to a BAR?
@Enwurd Looter nah
@Enwurd Looter Far from it. Nice try my man, wouldn't say the mormon John Browning counts as an englishman, or the designs by Smith and Wesson that the webley company copied. You could say every self loading pistol and revolver is just a copy of what Col. Colt and Browning designed.
Other way round.... Considering the british invented these bolt action rifles.
@@goforbroke4428 you are aware self loading pistols predate the colt right......
That would be a nightmare to headspace and largely unnecessary. 2 lugs is more than strong enough.
Sure is in beautiful condition
~5:00 or you throw one in the chamber and close the action b4 you try to reload your magazine because you have emptied all your magazines and want one ready just in case.
In my mind I'd like to think that this is the Tredegar rifle pattern that the Confederate military uses in Harry Turtledove's Great War series.
A pretty specimen.
france used these rifles in WW1 or so i have heard. Im not sure if that is real but i would be glad if somebody could tell more about this
You're correct, it seems.
forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=59114
They would call it "Carabine Lee Remington modèle 1887", sometimes writing "Lée" instead of "Lee". I'm sure Google Trad will make light work of the page I just pointed you to. But in case you need anything translated from French, simply ask and I'll do it for you.
Also, this other page details the exact models and numbers imported in 1915 from Remington :
lagrandeguerre.1fr1.net/t121840-quelques-raretes-de-l-armement-francais-de-la-grande-guerre
France in WW1 seems to have used every gun they could get if it:
A, Worked
B, Was not a musket
@ScorieDivine thank you so much for the links 👍
5:46 the back tang sorta looks like a 91/30
a carbine in 6. Mm would be a great deer gun
Watching this I kind of went through this range of reactions
-"First, Gee, interesting, there was a smokeless version of the Remington-Lee, it must not have been that great a design or I would already have heard of it",
-Then, "Wow it loaded from a detachable box magazine, it was available in 7mm Mauser, it had a fast bolt like an Enfield that could be cycled by the shooter without losing their sight picture, and it's an Enfield style action that was sold to some military units, so it must be reasonably reliable... this must have been the best gun ever at the time, why wasn't everyone using it? Why was any military using Mausers designs by WWI?" to
-Finally, "Oh, because it was expensive, over-complicated, and unreliable, the original Remington Lee design wasn't adapted all that well to smokeless powder here, at least not as a weapon to issue to infantry".
I should realized this: 1, When he mentioned there were 4 locking lugs (I don't think I've ever heard of a bolt action rifle with 4 lugs before). 2, I should have realized it when he took the bolt apart and it had more small pieces than I ever remember seeing before in a military bolt action rifle.
Nicolás...i like this rifle...👍👍👍
hey Ian! great video as usual - have you ever thought about starting a podcast?
The design of the rifle reminds me of the mosin
These 2 .303 Brit are in New Zealand
Ironic that the progenitor of the Lee Enfield and later the SMLE was a US rifle, but although the US never adopted it, they had to supplement their inventory with British pattern M1917 Enfield for WW1 which was produced in more numbers than the Springfield 1903. This was repeated with the airplane which even though invented by the Wright brothers in 1903 by 1917 the US had fallen so far behind that when they enter WW1 they had to buy French and British aircrafts.
Even the P51 mustang was designed for the British...
The real irony was that P-12, 13, and 14 series were based on the Springfield 1903.
Many of the changes Enfield made were to ease mass production. Which was why the AEF had more M1917s than M1903s.
Looks great to me, i would like it more in a carbine lenght.. but it's ok.
You never seem to see a video where Ian is disassembling a weapon where he DOESN'T have some kind of finger injury. Hope he has stock in Band Aid😉.
And people say the Mosin has a bad "safety".
The Moisin safety is bad because of how hard it is to move.
Mosin safety is so bad a lot of people don't even know it exists
How to take a fundamentally good design and really muck up the implementation.
Can you eventually cover an RPK variant?
You don't have a 24 hour Lee rifle surplus store near you? How sad.
It appears that most of the hardware on this gun (barrel bands, sights, bayonet lug) are identical to that found on the Models 1899 and 1902 rolling block military rifles.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine and the M1s are derived from the P13 Enfield, a pre ww1 British design
"this one is a bit loose, which is nice it makes it easy for me to get off"
wow
I am waiting for a q and a
Always nice to start a day with a nice parable from Gun Jesus.
I have a Winchester 1895 in 30 us dose that mean It will shoot 3040 crag? Thanks good video.
Yes
I have a model 1899 in .303 serial number 75185 and another 75142 in
303
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ian: *intensely uploads*
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Wait, the original Lee Navy’s were blackpowder? 🧐 Hm, I feel like I should have caught that! I feel stupid. It, as usual, great video Gun Jesus!
No, Lee Navy was a smokeless powder cartridge. The 1899 patterns were chambered in it, not the earlier black powder pattern ones.
@@Sephimius And the Lee Navy used a different action.
This rifle would have been way more popular if it were invented 5-10 years earlier. Why did it take Remington until 1899 to come up with what is simply a conversion of the 1885 model to smokeless powder? Atleast add a charger bridge or a double stack magazine. The commercial lee speed looked like a better rifle even though older but I suppose it wasn’t offered in other calibers or for sale in the US
Is the complex/expensive-to-make bolt a result of holders of patents for better bolts being unwilling to license them, or was it more of a not-invented-here mentality?
Isn’t the spare magazine kind of a big deal for that rifle during that time ???? I know in most of the reviews you do most rifles weren’t supposed to have a detachable box magazine. Because the upper brass was worried about the common grunt wasting ammo
A spare magazine (s) is very important at any time. Provided the weapon is designed to take mags.
@@jerryguerra348 I know ha ha what I meant was a lot of military rifles of that time didn’t consider a detachable box magazine a useable option. So my in thinking wouldn’t that make this rifle a bit of a rarity ?????
@@Johnny-jr2lq In Navy service, a shore party would be badly outnumbered, so the additional firepower would be greatly appreciated. Compared to the cost and tonnage of a naval gun, an expensive cutting edge rifle and a lot (LOT) of ammunition is inconsequential, so the USN went with 6mm Lee - a flat shooting cartridge with excellent penetration, and spare magazines.
@@markbecht1420 Technically clips for the Lee Navy but the previous Remington Lee 1879s used had the bandolier with 4 magazines each so yes
This kinda looks like a the bolt action rifle in Red Dead Redemption 2.
Anybody else catch the weird noise at just over 8:00 minutes?
Do you know what the rifle sold for in 1899?
U shood do one with the m1 grand
He already did.
Years ago, actually.
Lol he definitely has my dream job guns an history mixed
I'm so early I'm still sleeping.
We need this in red dead
what the heck is the point of a magazine cutoff that only engages when there's no magazine in the rifle?
@@rogerborg You can do that with a normal cuttoff, and you don't have to remove the magazine to do it. A design that forces you to remove the magazine is pointless.
Supposed for use in the US military but chooses the Krag instead
I'm a simple guy, I see "Lee" on a gun video and click! 😊
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I’m super early, it’s freakin 2 am here :(
NZ?
@@georgefrancisyoung3702 close bro Hawaii
This gun kinda feels like it’s about 10 years too late to be of any success at at this time you have the Mauser 98that is being finished off and I’m sure marketed and even the earlier ones seemed less finicky and dated than this rifle
Well, to be fair, it just took a little bit of product improvement by an experienced military design team, and it then went on to spawn about 20 million very successful Lee Enfields.
@@turbogerbil2935 No it didn't, since the Lee-Enfield had been in production for four years when the smokeless version of the Remington-Lee was introduced.
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Why does it look like you'd need a chin weld on this?
Multiple lugs not in the same plane is a big no no in design due to fitment and load sharing.
You gotta carry that luggage. ;w;
A recipe for disaster in the design of, well anything really.
Nice looker. Even elegant. But! Too fiddly, small parts. Not something to issue troops. As we used to say in the Australian Army, you have foolproof, then idiot proof. But is it troopy proof? Don't think so. Good video anyway Ian. 🇦🇺🇦🇺😷😷🇦🇺🇦🇺