I used to buy them for $25 each out of a big barrel of them. Sometimes I would swap parts when the gun store guy wasn't looking. I'm not overly fond of them but I hit what I was shooting at and they do hit hard.
I have a model 38 pre-war production, and it's smooth as silk. The wartime production guns were crap, but they weren't going for perfection, just survival.
@sl0re10 think the reason why he used iron sight instead of scope is that he was compromised once due to the reflection on the scope, same thing that likely killed Joseph Allerberger's (2nd highest kill rank German sniper) partner
The Thompson Submachine Gun isn’t about functionality or effectiveness. It’s about looking cool and saying “nyeh” and “see?” at the end of every sentence.
The Thompson did play a critical role in winning ww2. It laid great close cover fire and quick maneuverable room clearing. That being ssid ya there's a lot of modern weapons that would probably do a better job.
Garbage Rod is a good & cheap surplus rifle, shit I even own one. Definitely not a fan boy of it however. I prefer my Mauser Kar98k ten times over my Mosin, hands down. Bolts easier to manipulate, easier to quickly reload, and in my opinion; far better ammo type than the Mosins 7.62x54R, and not to mention the Kar98k is ridiculously more accurate.
You'd have a point, Prince Mercy, except he didn't say, or even imply, that "this is not meant to offend anyone". What he actually said was *Warning: this video may cause undue butthurt to people who own one or more of these firearms* . He did said right away that this video is _probably going to cause butthurt_ !
Freedom Isn't Free The Mosin is incredibly reliable, and incredibly easy to take down/clean. I deer hunt with it in rain, snow. Quick clean and she’s good as new. Some bolts work flawlessly, others not so much. Mines a ‘39, never had a single issue.
Friquido A lot of money? You think 150$ is a lot of money lol. I’ve taken 4 deer with mine. Put 1000 plus rounds through mine. So no. Either you’ve never owned a Mosin, or you didn’t check yours before and it turned out to be garbage, which is your fault lol. Take care of it, it’ll be fine.
Friquido Will I send you 150$? Lmfao no. I will spend that money on myself though. You can be naive and suck your “gun nut friends” off lmao. I’m sure they’re all Fudds, or cringy tacticool black synthetic stock rifle fanboys that role play like soldiers lol. You go ahead and tell Simo Hayha, or all the Russian female snipers of WW2 with some of the highest kill counts, that their rifle was garbage. I’ll give you a tip - they’d outshoot you any day of the week with your little modern synthetic rifle, lol. Maybe it’s user error? Maybe you don’t take care of your arms? Either way - me and my “always trash” firearm will be out for deer this season :)
I was right there with you, thinking "mine is crazy accurate!" But then I forgot about the grueling time spend figuring out what ammo it likes and polishing the trigger and bolt groups. That being said, after finding preferred ammo to a gun that wasnt neglected via corrosive steel cartridge ammo, and an hr polishing and working the trigger to1.6lb pull, it's the first gun I grab regardless of what I'm shooting for... currently holds 4.5" 3shot groups at 900yrds.
While I bought one for cheap, I would never defend any criticism of it, or count it as a go to if needed. They were a craze due to the no longer available cheap surplus ammo.
Here... I'll drop a little present for anyone who loves their mosin. I've tried this in multiple mosin nagants across the country, and get the same results with each... some being better than others due to bull barrels and trigger groups... Hand load... .311 dia 174gr Sierra match king hpbt, 43.5 grain varget powder, cci 250 mag primers, chanfer and de-bur the primer pockets and neck, and seat the projectile where its .002 jammed.... biggest group I've seen from this was 1"@100yrds with probably the most abused mosin ever. Its throat and chamber was so worn some of the shelf ammo cases would split on the shoulder.... aside from that one, groups ranged from 3/4" 1/8"....... oh, and this is for barrels that have been cut down to 22"-24" from the throat. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Weird how can mosin be shit when the deadliest single weapon known in history is a slightly modified mosin wielded by white death. Claiming its inaccurate is also a joke considering that guy just used the iron sights to kill 546 soviets.
@@Jebu911 they aren't that bad they were probably pretty good new but some of them are well over 100 years old and have seen a ridiculous number of rounds so most of them are no longer accurate also they used a corrosive ammo so they can be pretty bad at this point
@Barracuda340000 people hate it the same reason they hate on the sks now because a few years ago they were both cheap. I saw mosins for 80$ and bought my sks for 120$ now theyre both being sold for around 300$ and as they get more expensive they become worse in comparision to other rifles.
I think it’s a rifle where you get what you pay for. It doesn’t feel good and isn’t extremely accurate, but they aren’t a bad backup gun. They are cheap guns that do there jobs. They don’t to their jobs amazing, but they can get it done.
They dont call it a garbage rod for nothing. When my dad found out I paid $120 for a "hex bolt" tula built in 1933, he asked me if I got a case of ammo free. He also calls them tomato stakes.
The point he was making was that the Thompson weighs more than an M4, and only fires a pistol cartridge. If I had a choice between a Thompson and an M1 or M2 carbine, I'd take the carbine any day.
@@SonataNoKami Ah. I see what you mean. Like the gun, a white tiger can kill you, and like a housecat, an RX7 attracts lonely middle-aged women. That seems awfully harsh to RX7 drivers.
@@patrioticamerican6414 For romantic's sake yes. But some american soldiers in WW2 often reported that they didn't like it, because it was too heavy and clunky.
@@mc-ps-playa5569Yeah, about 20 years after they should have been. NATO might get their dream of a universal infantry rifle yet if this HK 416 keeps gaining popularity.
There's an anecdote M16 - harder in production than some airplanes AK47 - used by countries who can't afford airplanes Mosin Rifle - known for shooting down airplanes
I am a U.S. Navy Vietnam combat vet. in 1971, the year when my missions took place, the Navy still had the M1A1 in issue. Fortunately, due to the nature of my missions, I was able to choose my weapons. Of course, for a sidearm I carried the M1911. I chose the M1A1 Thompson for my long weapon. One of my main reasons was that it used the same 45ACP as my sidearm which made ammo carry more efficient. It didn't disappoint. For combat in the jungle, where you couldn't see an enemy more than 30 yards away at most, it was ideal. You heard them, and bug sprayed the area where the noise came from, heard the scream, saw the movement, and finished with another burst. I saw M16s jam and men die trying to get the damned thing to work. I never had a problem. To this day I won't carry any of the AR type weapons, they evoke too many bad memories. Is the M1A1 a wonder weapon? Hell no. It is what it is, a very effective weapon for short to medium range combat. It got me through my missions and I came back alive. "Nuff said.
I never understood why they called it the chicago typewriter until I had a chance to shoot one myself and it was a magical experience.. Now for a shameless plug when in Vegas head over to Battlefield Vegas and shoot one of these, they also have a B.A.R. which is also amazing. The instructors a Battlefield Vegas are Awesome
@willl 77 Your statement seems born of ignorance. The AR is superior in what way? Accuracy at longer distances? Yes. Reliability these days? Maybe. Ability to use the same ammunition as your side arm? Nope, no way. You obviously have a prejudice for the AR type of gun. Perhaps this is because that is what YOU used in the military. I carried an 03 A3 Springfield in boot camp. I still have a soft spot for that weapon, but in combat I would MUCH prefer the M1A1, as would most WW2 veterans, as is witnessed by the fact that they grabbed them as quickly as they could in the Pacific when the original non-com to whom they were issued fell. For jungle fighting they are an excellent weapon. Each weapon has its own strengths and weaknesses. Grow up and learn that.
+Jeremy lol I see so many comments that got way off topic, from rockets to even the metric system. All the author was trying to do was put some realism in the capabilities of a few firearms with a few tongue in cheek comments.
@@17MrLeon 45-70 is the same price as .308, but the 45-70 bullet is over twice the size (145 grain vs 405 grain average), twice the amount of powder, twice the brass, twice the energy foot pounds (3900 vs 2000 average), and the range of 7.62x51 NATO (.308) isnt much different, if you want to talk powerful bang for buck. Some 45-70 ammo is loaded as hot as .458 win mag for 1/5 of the price. .308 is a yuppi round, there's a reason asians at Starbucks that have never fired a gun in their lives know what it is
I don't think when you have to talk about guns, religions should come first in your speech. It's all about the gun's performances. Yes, I understand why you are a little offended, but we are in 2018. Everybody know what happened to the jews. I don't say it must be totally forgotten but when guns is involved, this shouldn't be a priority.
Fun fact: The M3 “Grease Gun” was designed just because of the said weight gripes surrounding the Thompson. It’s a decent enough Submachine-gun, and a competitor well up to the point it needed to be. But, it’s failings prompted it’s designed replacements, along with costs closer to 200 dollars in its initial design. I imagine the M1 variant cut corners considerably to save on money, but I don’t think it can beat 15$ circa 1942. The M3 machine gun of course has its own problems, what with its folding stock being made of wire metal. It also has fixed sights (100 yards) so adjusting for closer or further is a bit of a guessing game. (Although effective range is about that, so not much point in trying to lob .45 acp.) However, it makes up for this fact 8.15 lbs at heaviest when empty, with improvements by its A1 variant making it into the 7.95 lbs range. 2 ish pounds may not mean much to folks, but when you’re hoofing it for a while it adds up. Along with being exceedingly simplistic and easy to replace by their standards. It’s still seeing service today in the middle east. And by western powers as late as Kosovo. So while the Thompson has her place, I’m surprised more people don’t geek out about her successor. I will give the Thompson one thing tho, she has style. I think the Thompson has its place and is fun and fantastic in its own way. But, it has drawbacks and we should be realistic about em. The German rifle: Ho boy, even German infantry bitched about it. Mind you, they had a lot more to bitch about, considering their smoothest to operate rifle that wasn’t cutting edge and reserved for a select few units (Stg-44 cough) being the Kar-98 bolt action and you have good reason to grumble. That gun is NOT superior to the Garand. And I will die on that hill, or not, considering I could hold the mountain with a Garand like my Great Grandad in North Africa and Italy. It may only fire 8 rounds, but it also is easy to operate, care for, and has decent heat treating and parts. The Garand is a mean battle rifle. And while a little heavy, for your average rifleman it had good range and accuracy. It also just feels really good in your hands. So yea the G-43 is quite honestly not all she’s cracked up to be. No issue with the Armalight criticism. And the Soviet gun. I like it for its historical value. That’s it. It’s not a superior weapon, it’s not even all that well made. It shoots, can load, and in a pinch kill Nazis. If you put a scope on it you can maybe improve the accuracy a bit, but there was always a deviation error that most snipers whom modified it had to deal with. For a gun to crap out in mass quantities, however, it fits the bill perfectly. It’s disposable, a stop gap, and easy to make in large quantities. Why else do you think they produced so few of the gun that was SUPPOSED to replace it? The SVT-41 I would argue would have been better if not for its own design flaws and issues with upkeep in wartime conditions. It did well in its role with specialty units, but its difficulty in production made it a liability. Just generally Russian Rifles for those years are less impressive than their Sub-Machinegun counterparts with the PPSH-41 to 43 being excellent weapons by comparison. Although with diminished range, so the Mosin has that going for it; I still find it awkward as a weapons system. Additionally, I’m not sure if I just found a mega small one, or what, but the stock sucks. Of the ones I’ve held, it feels awkward on my shoulder. Would make for part of the Accuracy problem I believe.
patriotic halo 13 "Erika" is a marching song used by the German military. The song was composed by Herms Niel in the 1930s, and it soon came into usage by the Wehrmacht, especially the Heer and, to a lesser extent, the Kriegsmarine.
@@mbr5742 nope, just iron sights, and right out of the factory, he used it to kill about 300 germans in WW2, so i guess it comes down to how you use a weapon, regardless of how shitty it is
@@isaiasalonzo2563 Not quite right out of the factory. The man took that rifle home and used and maintained it himself. I think I even recall him turning down a 'right out of the factory' weapon since he was so comfortable with his known weapon.
The Finnish Mosin's were not Russian or Soviet built and or made. The Finn's rifles were made by Sako, Tikka or Valmet. Higher quality metal used in the receiver, trigger internals and heavy barrel. The Finn's had superior weapons.
7.5 thousand dislikes. "Wow, gee, I wonder what guns he posted to get people mad. I mean, they can't be that famo-" "So first up is the Mosin Nagant." "Oh..."
He is comparing to other rifles and he didn’t say it was a bad rifle how ever it is overrated I used to swale by it how ever it does have draw backs especially when compared to say a British enfield how ever it is still a joy to shoot and is a cheep rifle
I have both a Mosin Nagant 91/30 and an M1 Garand. I purchased the 91/30 and inherited the M1. Both have their uses. You have to take into account that not everyone has the cash for a $1000 bolt gun. Some of us don't have the cash for a $500 bolt gun. That taken into consideration, a $110 Mosin Nagant (mo-SEEN nah-GAHN) _is_ an -excellent- decent rifle in some respects, definitely not in others: FOR THE PRICE: 1. is it fun to shoot? Yep, but it kicks harder than a .30-06 bolt gun. I have a bolt-action 12ga shotgun that has less 'felt recoil'. The steel buttplate does it no favors. The short length of pull will put some people off. 2. is it cheap to shoot? It _can_ be if you're shooting corrosive milsurp ammo. If you're shooting quality ammo the price goes up. And quality ammo can be hard to find locally. 3. is it accurate? Not really, but _acceptable_ accuracy truly depends on what you need the gun to do: Are you punching holes in paper at 100 yards on the cheap? This is the _perfect_ rifle. If your goal is to piss off everyone around you with muzzle blast, get the carbine. Are trying to put lead on a gong at 1000 yards? This is the wrong gun. You'll spend more on ammo trying to accomplish this than you would on a much better rifle. Are you looking for a cheap deer rifle? At the price it was when I bought mine, $119 it definitely fit the bill. You can definitely make a kill-zone shot out to a few hundred yards if you have practiced with the rifle (like you should with _any_ hunting firearm). But at today's $325? Umm... No. For another hundred hundred bucks you can get an inexpensive used near-MOA bolt gun. Oh no - don't tell me you won't get one if you can't get it new. If you're willing to pony up for a 91/30 you're already willing to buy a used gun. 4. But really, is it _accurate?_ OK, you keep pressing this. By 1890's standards and manufacture, the were _impressively_ accurate. Even by WWII they were acceptable, especially for the piss-poor production standards that prevalent from mid-war onward. Even today you can find a (very) few that are probably under 2.5 MOA given high-end ammo or the painstaking task of tuning a hand load, but good luck getting the stores to let you paw through their stock of 91/30s to find that gun. There is at least one video out there of people demonstrating the difference in accuracy of a 'garbage rod' shooting eastern bloc mil-surp ammo and genuine 7N1 ammo. With the 7N1 (IIRC) the guy hit a target at 730 or so yards on the third shot. Bear in mind that AFAIK 7N1 is no longer available. That said, a great many are so shot out that you'd have a better chance of hitting your target _if you threw the rifle at it._ This is the norm, not the exception. But given the choice between which gun to take hunting, the Mosin or the Garand, I usually take the Mosin. The M1 is in excellent condition and shoots about 2 MOA. I don't like to risk damaging it, and M1 specific hunting loads aren't common. Just grabbing any old .30-06 hunting ammo off the shelf runs the very real risk of bending or breaking the op-rod with too hot of a powder. Similarly, the M1 chamber is designed for a spitzer-style bullet, specifically in the 147-155 grain size (depending on construction, though I've heard that 170 is the upper limit as well). Firing round-nose ammo isn't good for the gun - my understanding is that the bullet is jammed into the throat and runs the risk of chamber overpressure. I could be completely wrong about why it's bad, but it's bad nonetheless. The last thing I have to say about the Mosin is this: Even though they have a poor reputation, I've never heard anyone badmouth it on anything _other than_ accuracy, trigger feel, or bolt feel. Yes. that covers a _lot_ of the gun, but I've never heard: "It's not safe to shoot that, even with original loads" (I'm looking at you 1916 Spanish Mauser chambered in 7.62 NATO, marked .308 Win) "You shouldn't shoot it - some weren't heat treated properly" (early Mausers, a few 1903's, some modern firearms) "be careful, it's not a stronger three-lug action" (many rifles this old, including Mausers up to 1898) "It's just not durable" (said no one ever of the MN 91/30)
We shouldn’t forget that the Mosin Nagant and the G43 were mostly made during wartime. So no time for high quality standards and they probably didn’t expect the rifles to be used for so long.
People who like the Mosin Nagant: > hickok45 > DemolitionRanch > Iraqveteran8888 > Miculek > sootch00 People who don't like the Mosin Nagant > TFB TV > James Yeager
“I don’t know why people get butthurt when you don’t like something they like” “...uppity neckbeard fanboys like this pile of garbage for some reason” Mysterious world 🤔
Freddie Ellis the Russians could've armed their soldiers with pistols for gods sake all they did was overwhelm the Germans with infantry, with casualties in the millions for the Soviets by the end of the war
+MajorArtillary Because they were fighting the whole world. The Bolsheviks lost close to 5x as many men to the Germans. Their training was inferior and so was their equipment (at least until Churchill and Roosevelt gave Stalin 150 Billion)
SeverdSeouL Even with inferior training and equipment, they still marched down the Germans all the way to Berlin. The Germans had arguably the best defense of any nation at the time, especially with their machine gun and AT gun doctrines. There is no excuse why they lost. No allied tank could bounce the Flak 88 and Pak-40, and the MG42 was devastating to infantry. They lost because the took on an enemy they couldn't beat.
I think it's more accurate to say that the reason Germany lost because of the fact that their commander was Hitler! he had no military command experience, he refused to listen to his generals, refused to allow withdrawal or retreat and spat his dummy out when things didn't go his way.
Funny thing about the Thompson, my dad did two tours in Korea with the 25th, and he was issued a Thompson, and he was not a fan. Another soldier was drooling over it, and my dad offered to trade arms which the other guy gladly did, so my das became a BAR man throughout his two tours. He loved the BAR even though he said it was pretty tired from already serving in WWII. He said the best way to keep the action moving well in the cold winters was to squirt lighter fluid and set it on fire. That warmed everything up and it fired fine. He even got recommended for a medal because the CO said he was firing so much it caught on fire. Still- I think Thompson's are gorgeous.
My dad was in the 25th in Korea he said he carried an M1 and was the ammo man for the BAR. He said it was a 2 man team one carried the BAR and the other carried the ammo
@@chrisfritsch7934 the only thing he ever ready said about the war was the Chinese ran them back south and his group got split he went with his old sergeant and the other half went with I think a 2nd Lieutenant and the other half didn’t make it. He wasn’t one to talk about it much
@@looinrims that investment deprecates in a couple decades when the meme dies and no one wants the pile of disintergrating Soviet relics as its unlikely you're going to maintain and repair a bunch of "investment" guns you don't shoot personally on a regular basis. The furniture will dry, split and rot over the many seasons, the metal will degrade and failiure points will mutltiply. Leave the antique firearms to the museums who can blow the money on maintaining a rapidly failing platform.
I've owned six different Mosin-Nagants because I liked the platform, but I whole-heartedly agree that there are relatively few things that it excels over other rifles in. Used to be, its primary redeeming quality is that it was cheap; you could buy one for $79 and 880 rounds of ammo for $169. Now that prices have gone up, there are better options for roughly the same amount of money.
As a Swede, I damn laughed at the thompson weigh in. Well played. Metric system was used in calculations to getting your asses up there though. *slap* Great channel and easy on the ears. I like "to the point" information channels.
ikr. People get so fucking excited over the Mosin Nagant, even though most of the time it's kinda a junky bolt action rifle compared to all the other major country's primary infantry rifles (Primarily due to mass manufacturing demands). Even when it WAS manufactured with quality (such as many of the American made Mosins) they still weren't exactly great, especially compared to other rifles
There were tens of millions of Mosins produced. Many to most are absolute phenomenal shooters that are quite accurate and extremely reliable, however many are also bad shooters that as you said, are worth $85
I own a sniper mosin from 1943 with matching numbers. The wood is full of dents but the bolt is a real bitch. I think it has more historic value than gun value.
I was a commander of a tank team in the army during my obligatory military service. Besides the side gun (pistol) of each tank crew, each tank was equipped with 2 automatic pistols. There were 2 options; 9mm mp5 or 45. cal Thompson. I preferred the cool Thompson, and since then, there hasn't been a day that I haven't had a backache.
Buddar you were wrong, This is how to clean mosin: 1 Put Mosin on ground 2 Grab bottle of Vodka 3 Poor Vodka on mosin “How do you dry it though?” You might be asking yourself well you get a Husky to cuddle with the mosin
The Desert Eagle maybe ? It's heavy, expensive, it has poor penetration and a bad recoil.... Edit : "meh penetration is good" No, stop using games as references, the gun can't even go through a basic bullet proof vest.
Alex EatDonut because they’re so fun. I’ve shot a couple some time ago in the us (I’m British, no handguns here) and shot my first de .50 in Vegas when I was 15, aswell as a .500 magnum. Honestly not bad. The desert eagle was easily controllable but the 500 was like a cannon, but controllable still.
It's a kinda stupid weapon, not really meant for militarily use, its just kind of a gimmick, i don't think anyone designing it expected it to be anything other than a fun gun, they shoot rlly fun the recoil is not that bad, yeah they're expensive, but you should be happy that it's heavy otherwise it'd hurt while shooting. I think the desert eagle was just made as a gimmick and it sold well. I don't think anyone that bought it wanted to use it realistically for self defense or something. Its just fun to shoot, it kinda falls in the same category as the double barreled 1911s. Useless but fun
@@sovietry4944 exactly. But there's no point putting it on the overrated list as even though it was made for fun it's actually a really well made gun that is very reliable and innovative eg gas system
Georg Eidemiller as much dislikes Americans Russia can only achievement in history was being communist and just about beating America into space fist but you still couldn’t land on moon first such disappointment soo…
The difference is that the SA-80 isn't overrated. Everyone agrees that it's shit. ;) (Well, the L85A1 version anyway. The H&K upgraded A2 & A3 are at least usable.)
I own a Mosin Nagant M44, and I'll just straight up say it: it's meh. It was a gift from my dad, so I won't knock it, and I have fun with it. Especially bayoneting shit for funsies, but I will never claim that it's an incredible gun. It sure as shit isn't Mauser grade. But the cost to own/ shoot factor is favorable, and hey if I don't have any ammo nearby when an intruder breaks in, I can always spit roast them :D. All kidding aside, it's an ok gun, reliable, but the bolt is stiff, as is the trigger, and it won't win any marksmanship contests.
you won't run out of ammo considering how cheap the ammo is lol. It's a great surplus rifle. Tens of millions were made so you can't expect them to be the best. Most are quite great rifles with decent accuracy. All with an interesting history. You certainly can't count on all of them to be that way though
@@thekaiseroftheeast3895 Is it just me, or is the Desert Eagle one of the silliest handguns ever made? It’s like the gun equivalent of a racing team going “Fuck it. Let’s just drop the biggest engine we have in it and see what happens.”
@@ChineseChicken1 what? How the fact that Nasa used and uses the metric system makes someone a commie? America's measurement units are not intuitive, not easy to learn and completly unnecessary
CrusaderBricks lol! It's a cool vintage gun with a lot of history that makes it a fun collector's item, but I pity the guys who had nothing better issued for actual combat duty as it's fucking heavier than my issued H&K G3-based militia battle rifle! X/
A S C E N D E D you and everyone else that complains about a heavy gun all need to grow a pair of fucking balls and go to the gym because if you didn’t have the muscle mass of a middle school girl you wouldn’t have to complain
Here is an old saying. The Germans brought a hunting rifle to war. The Americans brought a target rifle to war. The British brought a BATTLE rifle to war, and the Russians brought a rifle to war.
My father carried a Thompson during WW2. He preferred it over the M3 grease gun which was lighter but as he put it more delicate He also said the weight was reassuring and useful when it needed to be used to push back civilians or control prisoners. In close combat such as clearing buildings accuracy wasn't important but easy maneuvering and stopping power were. For suppression fire it was more than accurate enough and accurate fire could be supplied by the M1 Garands. In fact he was a great proponent of sending large volumes of lead down range. As for the 45cal round it had good stopping power out to 150yrds and most combat was at less than 100yrds and could punch through thick underbrush. Both his side arm and main weapon used the same round. He personally preferred it to the M1 carbine because it had a higher rate of fire and bigger mag and as noted his ammo was interchangeable. To sum it up by your standards it wasn't any good too heavy didn't have a nice site or finish okay. But my father chose to carry that weapon because it was the best gun available that would keep him and his men alive. No insult but I think I'll side with my dad
I would have an heart attack if one of my friends say that in my face. Like seriously. Yes, the Lee-Enfield No.4's magazine is removable but you aren't supose to reload like you were shoving box magazines. At my knowledge, removing the magazine of a No.4 is intended for cleaning or something like that. For reloading, you do like usual: Shove stripper clips and that's it.
Dragonslyer yeah in Call of Duty WW2 if you equip extended mags on the Kar98 it uses one of those obscure “trench mags” developed during world war 1. However, those mags would’ve been stripper clip loaded, but in game it’s just removed and replaced like a drum mag
I like the Mosin because it's simple and it shoots a big bullet. I also have a couple bolt 30-06s for that reason. The only reason they're accurate is because 7.62x54 is a pretty decent round for shooting long distance, but so is a .308 and .338 for the same reasons
That’s the shame with the price these days. When they were, it was awesome because you’d get a high-powered rifle and a piece of military history at the same time. Now though, it’s a much tougher and honestly impractical choice.
+TFB TV I agree about the Mosin, and I didn't expect MOA accuracy in a weapon of that price. But, it's fun to shoot, and much cheaper to shoot than a 7.62 NATO/.308. It's very simple and always goes bang when I pull the trigger.
+benchmstr there is a big mix up of confusion on the carbine m43/44, and the full barreled m1903's (if im not mistaken on nomenclature. Mine is stock, and sub MOA, and that's after letting it's barrel rust up with a years worth of corrosive ammo one time. I will still admit ya get what ya pay for on a Mosin, but I find the full barreled ones are accurate at least. Rimmed cartridges are retarded too. he forgot to add that.
@@MustardanBiscuits the Aug just has the quick change barrels, which would be good if the AUG rifles civilians could buy had the full auto option. Other than that they are both just bullpup rifles with mushy triggers.
That Mosin is fine, comrade! It is not suppose to eject clips. This is so you do not waste good metal like some dumb capitalist pig, comrade! You pull it out, you put it back in your bag.......and if you come back alive, you use it again! Till it turns rust and goes to dust. Then you put the boolits by hand and hope for best. OK?? =D
Wrong , every household in soviet union had tons of black and coloured metals, they had so much they didnt care , especialy small shit like clips, im from post soviet country so i know what im talking about, every damn corner is filled with scrap metal...
Charles XII of Sweden Ive never had a problem with one, It has flaws compared to other firearms but its mainly based on what you prefer style wise, Weight wise and such.
You're pretty spot on with the mosin. I do love mine but I get it. One thing though....try the stripper clip again but make sure to run them home to full depth then swipe right with your thumb. The spring will lift the rounds up to the correct height, launching the clip out before you can even get to the bolt handle
Then agian growing up in a world with mp5s mp7s and the uzi style guns you wouldn't know the battle feild uses and very few Americans alive today would
You called the Tavor the worst bullpup in production. Even with how it melts your face, I believe that it would probably be better than the L85A1. It was uh, not great...
Jameson Dymond it didn't exactly fix all the problems. Some of them yes, but many still remain as it jams easily in full auto and the zoomed scope on it has only recently been replaced with something that isn't filled with toxic gas. The L85A2 is far from great.
Those two first guns are my favorite ww2 rifles I own a mosin and I completely agree with you. When I bought mine it was exactly how you said. I have gotten 3 people to look at the action to make it move quicker and with more ease it’s gotten better but still not much better, in the end I just got the mosin because of its historical significance. I just think the G43 looks good.
+TFB TV I'll have to admit, I got a little sad when I saw the Thompson on the list. But when I really think about it, it's just the stories and legend that rifle has with it that make it so great, not the actual rifle. I still think it's hot as, but just not very practical.
"The G43 is like the RX-7 of guns" So if I cram a Garand's receiver in there, it'll work just fine, right? By the way, does nobody notice the irony of an Israeli rifle that gasses you?
+Socks M16 is the worst..feeding issues, jams, stovepipes...fuckin thing would literally have to polish it to work and unfortunately it's main war was the Vietnam war which was dusty and muddy and not friendly towards the m16 especially compared to an ak47 opposition which functioned flawlessly and bulletproof compared to the m16. however the m16 ergonomics and concepts and working functionality moved on to craft the modern AR models and without the m16 never would have come to be. So the M16 was literally one of the greatest stepping stones in the modern world for the warrior, and also the hunter. despite it being a solid assault rifle the semi automatic AR models chambered in .308 instead of .223 are the ultimate gun for modern hunters and wished people would stop bashing AR model semi autos as assault rifles. They are not...as a hunter a .308 being so lightweight, short but still with proper twist and accuracy manoeuvre in tight brush, scope and accessory mounting made easy having the ability to stop and swap optics or iron sights on the fly, or even having a laser point targeting line...as well as rugged versatility...they are the best model ever created for hunters needs. Sadly they are not recognized by such... PS m16 didn't win wars it was lucky to get a draw if not a loss in Vietnam lol...but still totally respect your opinion
***** you are very right there Socks! The m16 is now a historical peice when it comes to an infantry battlefield rifle. That will probably be added (civilian semi auto reproduction of course) to my future rifle collection for that reason. Still on my WW 2 collection build with my Lee Enfield, STG-44 (reproduction not original) and Mauser. Still need to find the French Mas-36. Totally skipping the Mosin Nagant "Garbage Pole" it came from a neutral country so I refuse to count it as a battle rifle, and quite frankly me the look of the Mosin Nagant rubs me the wrong way and even if it had legendary functionality for some reason it just looks ugly as sin in my eyes. No particular reason just bothers me visually...
I forgot to mention the ball propellant that they used that literally has soldiers laying their dead next to their weapons disassembled trying to get the damn thing to work
Neither Liberia or Myanmar use the imperial system - they use the metric system but they're the only 2 countries in the world without an official system of until which for some reason makes people think they use the imperial
The "garbage rod" was an 1890-91 design. It literally was there when everybody was trying to figure out what a bolt action infantry rifle was supposed to be. It's almost a prototype that saw 70 years of military service. It is what it is. When fed decent commercial or handloaded ammo through a decent specimen it's a lot better than 5 inches for 5 shots at 100 yards
ver br comentando sobre rifles sem ao menos conseguir uma espingarda sem burocracia é uma pérola. alias, acho que vc quis dizer anytime ao invés de everyday
I may be from Britain, But u can see the 98k is probably the best of the ww2 bolt guns. The clips for the Enfield aren't spring loaded, and the rims of the rounds need to overlap. I'd say that the rifles are comparable in accuracy, and the Germans didn't make use of their rifles as much
@Robert McGuire Well it is true that transmissions on the panther and tigers were overloaded, but they were a fraction of the armor forces of the germans. Nobody talks about the panzer 3s or 4s which were great tanks.
dude ill be honest. for 100$, the Mosin Nagant is a very decent weapon. For 100$!!! Its not a match ar15 or anything but if you get in a 100-200 yard gunfight u can hold ur own
Mike Sokolow I got a 91/30 with matching serials and a hex reciever. I paid a bit over 200 so I certainly overpaid a little, but I would say it has been worth it. I mostly like it for it's look and 'character', and it has been reliable and mostly accurate so far. Definitely has flaws but I love the thing.
Mike Sokolow I think they vary a lot in quality. Some are downright easy to hit targets 400 yards away and some are indeed garbage rods. Especially if you get them when they weren't being mass produced for the war, high quality variance.
How dare you say the Chicago typewriter is a bad gun, it only jammed on me 3 or 4 times firing one stick clip before the sear became jammed in such a way that I couldn’t take it apart so I took it to a gunsmith for an easy fix that only involved some cutting and welding. The gun is horrible and if you want a real tommy gun then you’ll need $30k for a full auto, otherwise you’re buying a $1500 heavy and hard to load rifle with the range of a pistol that will jam constantly and get you killed.
SpiderGamez sometimes you don’t get a gun for efficiency, you get it for just being awesome like a Thompson, why is why they’re so expensive. Getting a semi auto one is like a blowjob with a condom on. I’ve shot loads and never have I had jam in fact.
My father was an infantry company commander in Italy He was issued a Thompson, but traded it for an M1 carbine because he felt it was not properly controllable.
@@patximartel I'd rather still have ammo and. Be accurate with the MP-40 then waste mags and having to high of a fire rate trying to hit one guy with the PPSH-41.
@@ironsusgaming540 lmfao weightless ammo...give me 230 grains vs 115 any day. Also if you have proper trigger control the Thompson is a breeze to shoot. I actually prefer the Sterling over the MP40 any day if I have to pick a 9mm sub gun.
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"the sights aren't adjustable"
Who aims with a Thompson? You should only fire from the hip while wearing a fedora
doesn't even have the right one, the one with the vertical grip and drum mag
probably why it's common in normal production
And a tux
Also killing vamp-
Too many mafia movies, what's next? M249 neither needs sights because you just do a Rambo?
I have a mosin and I know it’s garbage. But it’s my garbage :)
how's the accuracy on that gun? The German sniper with the 2nd highest kills during WWII used it for a year until he gave his gun to a younger sniper
I used to buy them for $25 each out of a big barrel of them. Sometimes I would swap parts when the gun store guy wasn't looking. I'm not overly fond of them but I hit what I was shooting at and they do hit hard.
My parents talking about me lol
I have a model 38 pre-war production, and it's smooth as silk. The wartime production guns were crap, but they weren't going for perfection, just survival.
@sl0re10 think the reason why he used iron sight instead of scope is that he was compromised once due to the reflection on the scope, same thing that likely killed Joseph Allerberger's (2nd highest kill rank German sniper) partner
I always saw the Thompson weight optimistically. When you're out of ammo, you can easily use it as a hefty club ;)
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The Thompson Submachine Gun isn’t about functionality or effectiveness. It’s about looking cool and saying “nyeh” and “see?” at the end of every sentence.
"Eat lead, coppers!"
“I’m shootin’ ‘ere!”
The Thompson did play a critical role in winning ww2. It laid great close cover fire and quick maneuverable room clearing. That being ssid ya there's a lot of modern weapons that would probably do a better job.
@@squirlnutsbigsack4864 grease gun was used more according to price although thompsons was used.
They will bury you in a lunchbox!
1st minute of video "this is not meant to offend anyone" 30 seconds later "this is the garbage rod Its trash and so are its fanboys"
Garbage rod fanboys aren't people
Garbage rod fanboy lives matter
Garbage Rod is a good & cheap surplus rifle, shit I even own one. Definitely not a fan boy of it however. I prefer my Mauser Kar98k ten times over my Mosin, hands down. Bolts easier to manipulate, easier to quickly reload, and in my opinion; far better ammo type than the Mosins 7.62x54R, and not to mention the Kar98k is ridiculously more accurate.
You'd have a point, Prince Mercy, except he didn't say, or even imply, that "this is not meant to offend anyone". What he actually said was *Warning: this video may cause undue butthurt to people who own one or more of these firearms* . He did said right away that this video is _probably going to cause butthurt_ !
E guy sorry I'm not reading your whole name you can't take a joke can you sheesh
Life tip:guns made in war by a struggling country are usually not very reliable
I feel the mosin is reliable just dont expect to hit a dime
Freedom Isn't Free The Mosin is incredibly reliable, and incredibly easy to take down/clean.
I deer hunt with it in rain, snow. Quick clean and she’s good as new.
Some bolts work flawlessly, others not so much. Mines a ‘39, never had a single issue.
u mean except the russians?
Friquido A lot of money? You think 150$ is a lot of money lol.
I’ve taken 4 deer with mine. Put 1000 plus rounds through mine. So no.
Either you’ve never owned a Mosin, or you didn’t check yours before and it turned out to be garbage, which is your fault lol. Take care of it, it’ll be fine.
Friquido Will I send you 150$? Lmfao no. I will spend that money on myself though.
You can be naive and suck your “gun nut friends” off lmao. I’m sure they’re all Fudds, or cringy tacticool black synthetic stock rifle fanboys that role play like soldiers lol.
You go ahead and tell Simo Hayha, or all the Russian female snipers of WW2 with some of the highest kill counts, that their rifle was garbage. I’ll give you a tip - they’d outshoot you any day of the week with your little modern synthetic rifle, lol.
Maybe it’s user error? Maybe you don’t take care of your arms? Either way - me and my “always trash” firearm will be out for deer this season :)
TFB: Tar 21 is terrible
L85A1: Hold my beer
But the A2 is better though :c
At least virtually everyone agrees the L85 was shit so its definitely not overrated.
Ye have you heard of the A2
iT wAs ThE bEsT GUn iN rAiNBow sIx sEIge. Honestly i main this gun virtually, but it bad irl. Ak gang ak gang
Zip 22: am I a joke to you
Me: *Gasp! 'How dare he disrespect my beloved Mosin?!'
Also me after he makes his points: 'Yeah alright, fair enough.'
same lol i love my mosin. but it would be the last gun in my safe i would grab for practical or impractical use lmao
I was right there with you, thinking "mine is crazy accurate!" But then I forgot about the grueling time spend figuring out what ammo it likes and polishing the trigger and bolt groups. That being said, after finding preferred ammo to a gun that wasnt neglected via corrosive steel cartridge ammo, and an hr polishing and working the trigger to1.6lb pull, it's the first gun I grab regardless of what I'm shooting for... currently holds 4.5" 3shot groups at 900yrds.
While I bought one for cheap, I would never defend any criticism of it, or count it as a go to if needed. They were a craze due to the no longer available cheap surplus ammo.
Here... I'll drop a little present for anyone who loves their mosin. I've tried this in multiple mosin nagants across the country, and get the same results with each... some being better than others due to bull barrels and trigger groups...
Hand load... .311 dia 174gr Sierra match king hpbt, 43.5 grain varget powder, cci 250 mag primers, chanfer and de-bur the primer pockets and neck, and seat the projectile where its .002 jammed.... biggest group I've seen from this was 1"@100yrds with probably the most abused mosin ever. Its throat and chamber was so worn some of the shelf ammo cases would split on the shoulder.... aside from that one, groups ranged from 3/4" 1/8"....... oh, and this is for barrels that have been cut down to 22"-24" from the throat.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Yeah . But I still want one just for the history and collection
*Makes fun of mosin*: "you've incited a gang war"
No, that's the Thompson.
Good thing he left Hi Point firearms out of this....course even us who like them won't say they're "over-rated" in any regard.
"provoked"
Weird how can mosin be shit when the deadliest single weapon known in history is a slightly modified mosin wielded by white death. Claiming its inaccurate is also a joke considering that guy just used the iron sights to kill 546 soviets.
@@Jebu911 they aren't that bad they were probably pretty good new but some of them are well over 100 years old and have seen a ridiculous number of rounds so most of them are no longer accurate also they used a corrosive ammo so they can be pretty bad at this point
Just so people know, overrated doesn't always mean it's bad it just means gets more credit than its deserves.
Thank you
The dude is undirectly telling you its bad with his jokes
@@Alexesssp no
@@ajaxmaxbitch yes
@@Alexesssp no
I don't own a Thompson.
But I'd like to.
Roger Sheddy I have 2 Thompson’s and I love shooting then with the stick, the Drum is to heavy
Me too, especially since my name is Thompson. Although, I’d like the earlier gangster model.
@@cal-tana2977 lol im jealous
The unironic use of the troll face merely five years ago still kills me
Yeahhh, some guntubers are kinda out of touch when it comes to memes. Except Brandon Herrera.
The mosin is one of my favorite bolt action rifles. It is a cheap "OK" rifle that does its job. And I'm not afraid to drop it off a cliff.
@Barracuda340000 I mean, it is trash. But there's nothing wrong with liking it despite that.
Drop it off a cliff and leave it there...haha. then come back and get it when ya need it.
Nah just leave it there
@Barracuda340000 people hate it the same reason they hate on the sks now because a few years ago they were both cheap. I saw mosins for 80$ and bought my sks for 120$ now theyre both being sold for around 300$ and as they get more expensive they become worse in comparision to other rifles.
I think it’s a rifle where you get what you pay for. It doesn’t feel good and isn’t extremely accurate, but they aren’t a bad backup gun. They are cheap guns that do there jobs. They don’t to their jobs amazing, but they can get it done.
"the mosin is trash"
"we know"
Not all of them, i have Mosin Nqgat M44
Pretty good riflie
And still love it! It's like riding a scooter. Shity, but FUN!
"we"
"know"
They dont call it a garbage rod for nothing. When my dad found out I paid $120 for a "hex bolt" tula built in 1933, he asked me if I got a case of ammo free. He also calls them tomato stakes.
TFB: says Thompson is overrated
Me: Defeatedly puts on fedora
...and closes violin case.
Lol
it's a M1A1 Thompson he uses (thats a WO2 use gun ), not an 1921 or a 21/28 Thompson guns the real "Chicago typewriter" mob guns
*puts on fedora
The point he was making was that the Thompson weighs more than an M4, and only fires a pistol cartridge. If I had a choice between a Thompson and an M1 or M2 carbine, I'd take the carbine any day.
But hell it looks good!
This didn't age well on the Mosin, fucking $500-600 now.
I bought my M44 early 90s for $74
@@belmarustheelder5503 hell, I got my 91/30 in 2007 for $89. Guy at the shop tried to sell me a crate for $400, cause he had twenty in the back.
@@jacobleftygüns well, its 130 old rifle, and i dont know what people expect
Saw a mosin nagant go for $800.
*cries*
@@very7962 Jesus christ
The Thompson weighs more than my damn cat
Makes sense.
I had a cat that was in the same weight class. 14lbs of solid muscle. that'd be Buster.
Not my cat
You, guys, haven't compared the Thompson with Finns ' Suomy SMG...
Brady22 big boi
"It's the RX-7 of guns." Shots fired.
Unlike the RX-7, I don't think the G43 can be fixed by shoving a bunch of American parts into it.
Yeah, or not
Yeah but the RX7 is a JDM legend and is very unique like comparing a white tiger to a depressed cat
@@SonataNoKami Ah. I see what you mean. Like the gun, a white tiger can kill you, and like a housecat, an RX7 attracts lonely middle-aged women.
That seems awfully harsh to RX7 drivers.
John Boyd huh? I had no meaning behind that I just like white tigers and I’m an rx7 fanboy but uh thanks for giving a meaning to my comment
1. Mosin Nagant
2. G43
3. AR180
4. IWI Tavor
5. Thompson SMG
Mikael Weiss Thompson’s are great
@@patrioticamerican6414 For romantic's sake yes. But some american soldiers in WW2 often reported that they didn't like it, because it was too heavy and clunky.
Cheers for this
#2 not a single-stack Glock pistol.
It's heavy but you could smash a Germans head in with one
The reason why the mosin was not accurate for anybody else was because that person wasn’t drinking enough vodka.
You see Vladimir, when you load up on vodka, your wobbling cancels out the recoil!
VADIUM BLYAT!! WHY ARE YOU SOBER?!?!?
Its just cheap communist garbage made with forced labor in a communist dictatorship
@@nativeamerican7424 If you look at a list with snipers with the most confirmed kills, 8 of the top 10 used Mosin Nagants.
@@thekaiseroftheeast3895 yeah idk about that cheap Russian gun probably made by forced labor just communist propaganda trying subvert people
TBF: “Tavor is the worst bull pup in production”
L85: “Am I a joke to you?”
I know right
FAMAS series: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
@@twotailedavenger At least THOSE are getting replaced
@@mc-ps-playa5569Yeah, about 20 years after they should have been. NATO might get their dream of a universal infantry rifle yet if this HK 416 keeps gaining popularity.
@@twotailedavenger Deutschland prove's they have superior weapons once again.
"...flimsier than Bill Cosby's morals." That escalated quickly.
felidae9 😂😂
There's an anecdote
M16 - harder in production than some airplanes
AK47 - used by countries who can't afford airplanes
Mosin Rifle - known for shooting down airplanes
AkezhCorp lmao
Damn that was good xD
airplanes made out of paper, you mean
@@coaiemandushman1079 Fabric-covered biplanes and scout planes are still planes!
Here’s another one:
Thompson-expensive to make, fixed sight
Sten-cheap to make, fixed sight
Mosin Nagant-cheap, bolt action, hard bolt cycling, adjustable sights
I am a U.S. Navy Vietnam combat vet. in 1971, the year when my missions took place, the Navy still had the M1A1 in issue. Fortunately, due to the nature of my missions, I was able to choose my weapons. Of course, for a sidearm I carried the M1911. I chose the M1A1 Thompson for my long weapon. One of my main reasons was that it used the same 45ACP as my sidearm which made ammo carry more efficient. It didn't disappoint. For combat in the jungle, where you couldn't see an enemy more than 30 yards away at most, it was ideal. You heard them, and bug sprayed the area where the noise came from, heard the scream, saw the movement, and finished with another burst. I saw M16s jam and men die trying to get the damned thing to work. I never had a problem. To this day I won't carry any of the AR type weapons, they evoke too many bad memories. Is the M1A1 a wonder weapon? Hell no. It is what it is, a very effective weapon for short to medium range combat. It got me through my missions and I came back alive. "Nuff said.
I never understood why they called it the chicago typewriter until I had a chance to shoot one myself and it was a magical experience.. Now for a shameless plug when in Vegas head over to Battlefield Vegas and shoot one of these, they also have a B.A.R. which is also amazing. The instructors a Battlefield Vegas are Awesome
Respect.
Also used the weapon….you only had to hit some once…they went down and stayed down….same with my 1911
@willl 77 Your statement seems born of ignorance. The AR is superior in what way? Accuracy at longer distances? Yes. Reliability these days? Maybe. Ability to use the same ammunition as your side arm? Nope, no way. You obviously have a prejudice for the AR type of gun. Perhaps this is because that is what YOU used in the military. I carried an 03 A3 Springfield in boot camp. I still have a soft spot for that weapon, but in combat I would MUCH prefer the M1A1, as would most WW2 veterans, as is witnessed by the fact that they grabbed them as quickly as they could in the Pacific when the original non-com to whom they were issued fell. For jungle fighting they are an excellent weapon. Each weapon has its own strengths and weaknesses. Grow up and learn that.
Fck yes! Sir thank you. What you shared here today is true wisdom and experience.
Jesus, you tried to piss off as many people as possible as hard as possible. I love it, please roast more overrated guns!
Scarlett Johnston Undo the calamities that are your mammaries.
My tits are just fine, thank you ^-^ Also, unfortunately I've heard that one before. X)
Scarlett Johnston tinky winky would be scared if a video of you appeared on his tv belly
+Jeremy lol I see so many comments that got way off topic, from rockets to even the metric system. All the author was trying to do was put some realism in the capabilities of a few firearms with a few tongue in cheek comments.
Ret Old Nice memes.
You didn't drink enough vodka before shooting the Mosin, that's your problem comrade.
Ah, yes. You need vodka strength to operate bolt.
He's just a pussy.
Shit dude u right!
Da vodka helps you aim better
@@theinstitute1324 the vodkas there to help you ignore the shitty qualities just like with a butter face!😂😂
"Here it is in american units"
"And here it is for countries that havent put a flag on the moon"
DAMN
that was a bad one XD
@@rookie_Nimble what do u mean, that shit went in hard
that shit was weak af no cap
who gives a fuck about who went to the moon? if it wasnt me walking around up there i dont care
It should have been
"Here it is in American units "
"And here it is in countries that aren't hugely in debt"
"Countries who have not put a flag on the moon"
German rocket scientists working on the Saturn-V using metric: ...
Apollo Guidance Computer was actually programed in metric units, so every mention of moon landing in support of imperial units make me chuckle.
@@rimanLip was looking for this comment xD
@@rimanLip Imperial units are unusable for serious science.
Was it "The Right Stuff"; 'Our Nazis are better than their Nazis'? Jeff Goldbloom...
Not German rocket scientist's Naturalized U.S. Citizen rocket scientist get your facts straight
I'd love to see the weight of a Tommy gun with a FULLY LOADED DRUM ! No wonder those gangsters just kind of sprayed till they hit something!
I read somewhere 14 pounds with the full round clip.
It equals the weight of a BAR!
@@sharpe227 ITS A MAGAZINE
The gangsters used drums, while the army used sticks, soooooo...
Im just glad i didnt see the m1 grand.
_Sees Mosin_
Tarkov Players: *angry screaming*
rs2 players will scream even more angrily
Video games are gay.
DayZ players: *REEEEE*
@@sebathadah1559 No, you are.
@@belgianfried No no...
You're supposed to say, "No u."
9:30
Sorry we also use centimetres instead of cheeseburgers per square insulin shot.
Wait U use centimeter instead of inches/feet
Very ignorant
Ali Sallam centimetre , meter and kilometre is 1000x better than feet and inches
@@5geeseinabucket of course, who said otherwise except this channel
You sound resentful and a lil jealous. How about a cheese burger
@@GuadalupeF.Arredondo I don't think he's jealous I think he just think that is stupid what he said
"The bolt cycles like dragging a grand piano across a gravel beach" 😂😂😂 the truth
I don’t disagree with anything in this video but to rant on 3 weapons designed over 75 years ago wasn’t something I expected.
Only PRO why you should buy mosin is because its fun chepa shooting. Thats all.
@@17MrLeon $12 for 20 rounds is not cheap. That's what it costs where I'm at. 22 is cheap
yes it is cheap try shooting .308 that costs almost twice as much. show me cheaper 7.62 full rifle carthrige.
@@17MrLeon I don't usually buy 7.62. It just seems expensive to me since I buy 200 rds of 9mm for less than $40.
@@17MrLeon 45-70 is the same price as .308, but the 45-70 bullet is over twice the size (145 grain vs 405 grain average), twice the amount of powder, twice the brass, twice the energy foot pounds (3900 vs 2000 average), and the range of 7.62x51 NATO (.308) isnt much different, if you want to talk powerful bang for buck. Some 45-70 ammo is loaded as hot as .458 win mag for 1/5 of the price. .308 is a yuppi round, there's a reason asians at Starbucks that have never fired a gun in their lives know what it is
I believe you... BUT MY TOMMY GUN DON'T!!!
I agree. I regret my purchase
Ya filthy animal
Good home alone reference
Lol
leave the money on the door step and get the hell out of here
epstein didn't kill himself
I don't think when you have to talk about guns, religions should come first in your speech. It's all about the gun's performances. Yes, I understand why you are a little offended, but we are in 2018. Everybody know what happened to the jews. I don't say it must be totally forgotten but when guns is involved, this shouldn't be a priority.
ArchOnua85 Gameplay[AOG]
It was like a joke, man.
I know its a joke since the beginning. It's not like if I was using caps.
Boy gun people get offended quicker than feminist
LieutenantIrsric I am pretty sure it was 666 million Jews.
Fun fact: The M3 “Grease Gun” was designed just because of the said weight gripes surrounding the Thompson. It’s a decent enough Submachine-gun, and a competitor well up to the point it needed to be. But, it’s failings prompted it’s designed replacements, along with costs closer to 200 dollars in its initial design. I imagine the M1 variant cut corners considerably to save on money, but I don’t think it can beat 15$ circa 1942.
The M3 machine gun of course has its own problems, what with its folding stock being made of wire metal. It also has fixed sights (100 yards) so adjusting for closer or further is a bit of a guessing game. (Although effective range is about that, so not much point in trying to lob .45 acp.) However, it makes up for this fact 8.15 lbs at heaviest when empty, with improvements by its A1 variant making it into the 7.95 lbs range. 2 ish pounds may not mean much to folks, but when you’re hoofing it for a while it adds up. Along with being exceedingly simplistic and easy to replace by their standards.
It’s still seeing service today in the middle east. And by western powers as late as Kosovo.
So while the Thompson has her place, I’m surprised more people don’t geek out about her successor. I will give the Thompson one thing tho, she has style.
I think the Thompson has its place and is fun and fantastic in its own way. But, it has drawbacks and we should be realistic about em.
The German rifle: Ho boy, even German infantry bitched about it. Mind you, they had a lot more to bitch about, considering their smoothest to operate rifle that wasn’t cutting edge and reserved for a select few units (Stg-44 cough) being the Kar-98 bolt action and you have good reason to grumble. That gun is NOT superior to the Garand. And I will die on that hill, or not, considering I could hold the mountain with a Garand like my Great Grandad in North Africa and Italy. It may only fire 8 rounds, but it also is easy to operate, care for, and has decent heat treating and parts. The Garand is a mean battle rifle. And while a little heavy, for your average rifleman it had good range and accuracy. It also just feels really good in your hands.
So yea the G-43 is quite honestly not all she’s cracked up to be.
No issue with the Armalight criticism.
And the Soviet gun. I like it for its historical value.
That’s it.
It’s not a superior weapon, it’s not even all that well made. It shoots, can load, and in a pinch kill Nazis. If you put a scope on it you can maybe improve the accuracy a bit, but there was always a deviation error that most snipers whom modified it had to deal with. For a gun to crap out in mass quantities, however, it fits the bill perfectly. It’s disposable, a stop gap, and easy to make in large quantities. Why else do you think they produced so few of the gun that was SUPPOSED to replace it?
The SVT-41 I would argue would have been better if not for its own design flaws and issues with upkeep in wartime conditions. It did well in its role with specialty units, but its difficulty in production made it a liability. Just generally Russian Rifles for those years are less impressive than their Sub-Machinegun counterparts with the PPSH-41 to 43 being excellent weapons by comparison. Although with diminished range, so the Mosin has that going for it; I still find it awkward as a weapons system. Additionally, I’m not sure if I just found a mega small one, or what, but the stock sucks. Of the ones I’ve held, it feels awkward on my shoulder. Would make for part of the Accuracy problem I believe.
"If you like beeing gased in the face"
*erika starts playing
I stand corrected
>jewish rifle
>gasses you in the face
Elite Club Projection, as always.
patriotic halo 13 "Erika" is a marching song used by the German military. The song was composed by Herms Niel in the 1930s, and it soon came into usage by the Wehrmacht, especially the Heer and, to a lesser extent, the Kriegsmarine.
*In Einam Polenstadtchen plays in the distance*
First garbage rod fanboy was Simo Hayhä with his pimped mosin-nagant, at the end the 1930s
My guess is the pimped part involves having a gunsmith going over the weapon, cleaning some rough edges etc. Resulting in a smother running rifle
@@mbr5742 nope, just iron sights, and right out of the factory, he used it to kill about 300 germans in WW2, so i guess it comes down to how you use a weapon, regardless of how shitty it is
@@isaiasalonzo2563 to kill about 300 soviets, not germans ;-)
@@isaiasalonzo2563 Not quite right out of the factory. The man took that rifle home and used and maintained it himself. I think I even recall him turning down a 'right out of the factory' weapon since he was so comfortable with his known weapon.
The Finnish Mosin's were not Russian or Soviet built and or made. The Finn's rifles were made by Sako, Tikka or Valmet. Higher quality metal used in the receiver, trigger internals and heavy barrel. The Finn's had superior weapons.
7.5 thousand dislikes.
"Wow, gee, I wonder what guns he posted to get people mad. I mean, they can't be that famo-"
"So first up is the Mosin Nagant."
"Oh..."
yea he pronounced it wrong
He is comparing to other rifles and he didn’t say it was a bad rifle how ever it is overrated I used to swale by it how ever it does have draw backs especially when compared to say a British enfield how ever it is still a joy to shoot and is a cheep rifle
I was wondering the same thing and then as I own two mosins and really enjoy them I immediately felt personally attacked.
I have both a Mosin Nagant 91/30 and an M1 Garand. I purchased the 91/30 and inherited the M1. Both have their uses.
You have to take into account that not everyone has the cash for a $1000 bolt gun. Some of us don't have the cash for a $500 bolt gun.
That taken into consideration, a $110 Mosin Nagant (mo-SEEN nah-GAHN) _is_ an -excellent- decent rifle in some respects, definitely not in others:
FOR THE PRICE:
1. is it fun to shoot?
Yep, but it kicks harder than a .30-06 bolt gun. I have a bolt-action 12ga shotgun that has less 'felt recoil'.
The steel buttplate does it no favors.
The short length of pull will put some people off.
2. is it cheap to shoot?
It _can_ be if you're shooting corrosive milsurp ammo. If you're shooting quality ammo the price goes up. And quality ammo can be hard to find locally.
3. is it accurate?
Not really, but _acceptable_ accuracy truly depends on what you need the gun to do:
Are you punching holes in paper at 100 yards on the cheap? This is the _perfect_ rifle. If your goal is to piss off everyone around you with muzzle blast, get the carbine.
Are trying to put lead on a gong at 1000 yards? This is the wrong gun. You'll spend more on ammo trying to accomplish this than you would on a much better rifle.
Are you looking for a cheap deer rifle? At the price it was when I bought mine, $119 it definitely fit the bill. You can definitely make a kill-zone shot out to a few hundred yards if you have practiced with the rifle (like you should with _any_ hunting firearm).
But at today's $325? Umm... No. For another hundred hundred bucks you can get an inexpensive used near-MOA bolt gun. Oh no - don't tell me you won't get one if you can't get it new. If you're willing to pony up for a 91/30 you're already willing to buy a used gun.
4. But really, is it _accurate?_
OK, you keep pressing this. By 1890's standards and manufacture, the were _impressively_ accurate. Even by WWII they were acceptable, especially for the piss-poor production standards that prevalent from mid-war onward.
Even today you can find a (very) few that are probably under 2.5 MOA given high-end ammo or the painstaking task of tuning a hand load, but good luck getting the stores to let you paw through their stock of 91/30s to find that gun.
There is at least one video out there of people demonstrating the difference in accuracy of a 'garbage rod' shooting eastern bloc mil-surp ammo and genuine 7N1 ammo. With the 7N1 (IIRC) the guy hit a target at 730 or so yards on the third shot. Bear in mind that AFAIK 7N1 is no longer available.
That said, a great many are so shot out that you'd have a better chance of hitting your target _if you threw the rifle at it._ This is the norm, not the exception.
But given the choice between which gun to take hunting, the Mosin or the Garand, I usually take the Mosin. The M1 is in excellent condition and shoots about 2 MOA. I don't like to risk damaging it, and M1 specific hunting loads aren't common. Just grabbing any old .30-06 hunting ammo off the shelf runs the very real risk of bending or breaking the op-rod with too hot of a powder. Similarly, the M1 chamber is designed for a spitzer-style bullet, specifically in the 147-155 grain size (depending on construction, though I've heard that 170 is the upper limit as well). Firing round-nose ammo isn't good for the gun - my understanding is that the bullet is jammed into the throat and runs the risk of chamber overpressure. I could be completely wrong about why it's bad, but it's bad nonetheless.
The last thing I have to say about the Mosin is this:
Even though they have a poor reputation, I've never heard anyone badmouth it on anything _other than_ accuracy, trigger feel, or bolt feel. Yes. that covers a _lot_ of the gun, but I've never heard:
"It's not safe to shoot that, even with original loads" (I'm looking at you 1916 Spanish Mauser chambered in 7.62 NATO, marked .308 Win)
"You shouldn't shoot it - some weren't heat treated properly" (early Mausers, a few 1903's, some modern firearms)
"be careful, it's not a stronger three-lug action" (many rifles this old, including Mausers up to 1898)
"It's just not durable" (said no one ever of the MN 91/30)
We shouldn’t forget that the Mosin Nagant and the G43 were mostly made during wartime. So no time for high quality standards and they probably didn’t expect the rifles to be used for so long.
People who like the Mosin Nagant:
> hickok45
> DemolitionRanch
> Iraqveteran8888
> Miculek
> sootch00
People who don't like the Mosin Nagant
> TFB TV
> James Yeager
You left out Nutnfancy favoring it to.
OkayNiceOne
OkayNiceOne vv
mongoose2040 Was about to say that. How can you leave out Nutn...
The Mosin wasnt for fighting? it only killed more Nazis than any AR15.
“I don’t know why people get butthurt when you don’t like something they like”
“...uppity neckbeard fanboys like this pile of garbage for some reason”
Mysterious world 🤔
Metaphor as fuck
I’ll bet you have a neck beard and a mosen huh😂
Matzbeatz I don’t have shit because I’m poor
He's a hypocrite
Fanboys aren't people they're sheep
Was the Nagant a good rifle? No
Was the Nagant good ENOUGH? Yeah.
Freddie Ellis the Russians could've armed their soldiers with pistols for gods sake all they did was overwhelm the Germans with infantry, with casualties in the millions for the Soviets by the end of the war
That would be a good excuse for the Germans, except they also lost with millions of casualties
+MajorArtillary Because they were fighting the whole world. The Bolsheviks lost close to 5x as many men to the Germans. Their training was inferior and so was their equipment (at least until Churchill and Roosevelt gave Stalin 150 Billion)
SeverdSeouL Even with inferior training and equipment, they still marched down the Germans all the way to Berlin. The Germans had arguably the best defense of any nation at the time, especially with their machine gun and AT gun doctrines. There is no excuse why they lost. No allied tank could bounce the Flak 88 and Pak-40, and the MG42 was devastating to infantry. They lost because the took on an enemy they couldn't beat.
I think it's more accurate to say that the reason Germany lost because of the fact that their commander was Hitler! he had no military command experience, he refused to listen to his generals, refused to allow withdrawal or retreat and spat his dummy out when things didn't go his way.
Funny thing about the Thompson, my dad did two tours in Korea with the 25th, and he was issued a Thompson, and he was not a fan. Another soldier was drooling over it, and my dad offered to trade arms which the other guy gladly did, so my das became a BAR man throughout his two tours. He loved the BAR even though he said it was pretty tired from already serving in WWII. He said the best way to keep the action moving well in the cold winters was to squirt lighter fluid and set it on fire. That warmed everything up and it fired fine. He even got recommended for a medal because the CO said he was firing so much it caught on fire. Still- I think Thompson's are gorgeous.
My dad was in the 25th in Korea he said he carried an M1 and was the ammo man for the BAR. He said it was a 2 man team one carried the BAR and the other carried the ammo
@@doylesanderson9697 yep! Gee- maybe they knew each other! Was he a "Chowhound"?
@@chrisfritsch7934 the only thing he ever ready said about the war was the Chinese ran them back south and his group got split he went with his old sergeant and the other half went with I think a 2nd Lieutenant and the other half didn’t make it. He wasn’t one to talk about it much
Soldiers can just trade guns like that? Korean war was a while ago but damn, still!
imagining a soldiers rags-to-riches journey trading a grease gun all the way to getting a rocket launcher
Current Mosin buyer philosophy: You buy 5, salvage 1 good rifle out of the bunch - it's still a bargain if you can find the ammo.
Cavemale2000 shit I just buy them cheap cuz no matter what that price is going up in the future, it’s an investment in finances not safety, not at all
@@looinrims that was true when they were $100 now they seem over priced.
diyVT eh I’d still buy em up if you find some 300$ examples especially for investment
You could just buy a "refitted" Finnish version..
@@looinrims that investment deprecates in a couple decades when the meme dies and no one wants the pile of disintergrating Soviet relics as its unlikely you're going to maintain and repair a bunch of "investment" guns you don't shoot personally on a regular basis. The furniture will dry, split and rot over the many seasons, the metal will degrade and failiure points will mutltiply. Leave the antique firearms to the museums who can blow the money on maintaining a rapidly failing platform.
I've owned six different Mosin-Nagants because I liked the platform, but I whole-heartedly agree that there are relatively few things that it excels over other rifles in.
Used to be, its primary redeeming quality is that it was cheap; you could buy one for $79 and 880 rounds of ammo for $169. Now that prices have gone up, there are better options for roughly the same amount of money.
John Doe Renamon? Youth today eh?
Thompson may be overrated but its a fucking maffia gun
Pepe The Donkey thats why its loved
al capone
But as a military weapon it was kind of a financial travesty. For the mafia it served it's purpose well I suppose.
Roland Deschain yeah but im just talking about its use in the maffia
Yes with that big clip..
As a Swede, I damn laughed at the thompson weigh in. Well played. Metric system was used in calculations to getting your asses up there though. *slap*
Great channel and easy on the ears. I like "to the point" information channels.
NASA didn't use Metric till the 1990s
@@ravenwing199 Minutes before showing calculations they quickly swapped to imperial units
>mentions AR-18
>gets sudden urge to liberate the north
I thought they used AR-10s
@@warblunder8343 they used whatever they could get their hands on but the ar18 was common
*me little armalite intensifies*
Up tha RA.
I still have my first $85 Mosin. Because it's worth...85 bucks.
ikr. People get so fucking excited over the Mosin Nagant, even though most of the time it's kinda a junky bolt action rifle compared to all the other major country's primary infantry rifles (Primarily due to mass manufacturing demands). Even when it WAS manufactured with quality (such as many of the American made Mosins) they still weren't exactly great, especially compared to other rifles
Johnathan Bloch the Finns couldn't fix it
There were tens of millions of Mosins produced. Many to most are absolute phenomenal shooters that are quite accurate and extremely reliable, however many are also bad shooters that as you said, are worth $85
I own a sniper mosin from 1943 with matching numbers.
The wood is full of dents but the bolt is a real bitch. I think it has more historic value than gun value.
It's like $350 now.
When 13 year olds act like theyve been to war and have ptsd because they play cod all day and have dorito fingers
justin mccoy hahaha xD
justin mccoy @me
just saw your channel and I would be suprised if you are any older...
Don't forget bf fanboys as well....or any other fps with a bitchy fanbase
justin mccoy Mosin nagant is just OLD, it's from russian empire.
I was a commander of a tank team in the army during my obligatory military service. Besides the side gun (pistol) of each tank crew, each tank was equipped with 2 automatic pistols. There were 2 options; 9mm mp5 or 45. cal Thompson. I preferred the cool Thompson, and since then, there hasn't been a day that I haven't had a backache.
Backaches? Well, you were in tanks. Uploading that main gun ammo will do that to your back.
Now you can't see why I got these likes.
But ya gotta clean up the yard.
For some reason, I've read this with a russian accent.
Andrew T you’re supposed to
Moisten Nagant
Buddar you were wrong, This is how to clean mosin: 1 Put Mosin on ground
2 Grab bottle of Vodka
3 Poor Vodka on mosin
“How do you dry it though?” You might be asking yourself well you get a Husky to cuddle with the mosin
The Desert Eagle maybe ?
It's heavy, expensive, it has poor penetration and a bad recoil....
Edit : "meh penetration is good"
No, stop using games as references, the gun can't even go through a basic bullet proof vest.
It can break your wrist
@@bepisman8948 You ever fired a DE in .50 ae? Recoil isn't that bad at all.
Alex EatDonut because they’re so fun. I’ve shot a couple some time ago in the us (I’m British, no handguns here) and shot my first de .50 in Vegas when I was 15, aswell as a .500 magnum. Honestly not bad. The desert eagle was easily controllable but the 500 was like a cannon, but controllable still.
It's a kinda stupid weapon, not really meant for militarily use, its just kind of a gimmick, i don't think anyone designing it expected it to be anything other than a fun gun, they shoot rlly fun the recoil is not that bad, yeah they're expensive, but you should be happy that it's heavy otherwise it'd hurt while shooting. I think the desert eagle was just made as a gimmick and it sold well. I don't think anyone that bought it wanted to use it realistically for self defense or something. Its just fun to shoot, it kinda falls in the same category as the double barreled 1911s. Useless but fun
@@sovietry4944 exactly. But there's no point putting it on the overrated list as even though it was made for fun it's actually a really well made gun that is very reliable and innovative eg gas system
9:33 Jokes on you the murican flag has turned white due to sunlight so now it looks like french went there
Oooh fuck, that is like a layered cake.
@@bleachedmud8723 frances flag from 1812 to 1814 was completely white
@Paddy Hickman hmm ok
Paddy Hickman you probably can’t even do basic algebra
Georg Eidemiller as much dislikes Americans Russia can only achievement in history was being communist and just about beating America into space fist but you still couldn’t land on moon first such disappointment soo…
The Enfield SA 80 started sweating when the words “worst bullpup” were spoken😂.
The difference is that the SA-80 isn't overrated. Everyone agrees that it's shit. ;) (Well, the L85A1 version anyway. The H&K upgraded A2 & A3 are at least usable.)
It's basically a bullpup AR18
Everybody:*uses old dangerous guns from ww2*
Gun:*breaks*
Everybody*surprised Pikachu face*
Germans built there later war stuff with a certain life span in mind. 3 to 5 months life is about all it needed to last.
@@tomfennesy9105 I mean makes sense if your fighting a losing defensive war you might as well deny your enemy free equipment.
@@chrisrawr6177 it just makes getting ww2 german stuff a mixed bag.
I own a Mosin Nagant M44, and I'll just straight up say it: it's meh. It was a gift from my dad, so I won't knock it, and I have fun with it. Especially bayoneting shit for funsies, but I will never claim that it's an incredible gun. It sure as shit isn't Mauser grade. But the cost to own/ shoot factor is favorable, and hey if I don't have any ammo nearby when an intruder breaks in, I can always spit roast them :D. All kidding aside, it's an ok gun, reliable, but the bolt is stiff, as is the trigger, and it won't win any marksmanship contests.
I believe that mosins for the price are the best rifles you can get but they do have their flaws
a gaming toothpickle not worth it anymore as they arent 100 bucks
Ryan D yeah my mauser does have a better bolt but I can get better shots because of mine being an ex sniper. And it also depends on the user
Elric Colvill I have a 91/30 and if you run out of ammo with them it becomes a baseball bag
you won't run out of ammo considering how cheap the ammo is lol. It's a great surplus rifle. Tens of millions were made so you can't expect them to be the best.
Most are quite great rifles with decent accuracy. All with an interesting history. You certainly can't count on all of them to be that way though
"Working the bolt feels like dragging a grand piano across a gravel beach
buck is the best halo character you didn’t close your quotation marks.
@@haydenr5128 i don't think he's ever gonna do that.
Kriicher Press F for dead grammar.
@@haydenr5128 F to all the grammar nazis who served in the grammar war
@@Kriicher I still have the scars.
“How can you expect a 150 dollar gun to perform like a 1000 dollar gun?”
Proceeds to compare a 150 dollar gun against a near 1000 dollar gun.
My kar was less than both those numbers
@@noblehinen5271 I miss those days
@@lawfulspoon4457 me too
I agree that doesn't even make sense. I'll bet you a $1000 my $70 AK from Afghanistan is gonna wipe the floor with your $1000 Desert Eagle.
@@thekaiseroftheeast3895 Is it just me, or is the Desert Eagle one of the silliest handguns ever made? It’s like the gun equivalent of a racing team going “Fuck it. Let’s just drop the biggest engine we have in it and see what happens.”
9:35 LOL fun fact, astronauts used metrics on the moon
Commie
@@ChineseChicken1 what? How the fact that Nasa used and uses the metric system makes someone a commie? America's measurement units are not intuitive, not easy to learn and completly unnecessary
Gali Wow, someone got triggered. It was just a joke, damn.
@@ChineseChicken1 idiot, you're the commie. My country had colonial ruling. Imperial system is also British.
@@ChineseChicken1 "uhhhh my insults are funny why you no laugh"
If you don't want your Thompson, let me help you and take it off your hands...
CrusaderBricks lol!
It's a cool vintage gun with a lot of history that makes it a fun collector's item, but I pity the guys who had nothing better issued for actual combat duty as it's fucking heavier than my issued H&K G3-based militia battle rifle! X/
Thompsons are way to heavy. I rather get my hands on a MP40
SonsOfLorgar Of course it’s heavier, you idiot. It’s made of steel and wood, and was designed in 1918.
A S C E N D E D you and everyone else that complains about a heavy gun all need to grow a pair of fucking balls and go to the gym because if you didn’t have the muscle mass of a middle school girl you wouldn’t have to complain
Tell that to all the marines who have to lug around machine guns, guarantee you’d get fucked up
*video starts*
*mosin nagant appears*
Me: Nice
Your mom deserves a spot on this list
Here is an old saying.
The Germans brought a hunting rifle to war. The Americans brought a target rifle to war. The British brought a BATTLE rifle to war, and the Russians brought a rifle to war.
@@von5850 wow what an inteligent comment
@@von5850 lol nice
My father carried a Thompson during WW2. He preferred it over the M3 grease gun which was lighter but as he put it more delicate He also said the weight was reassuring and useful when it needed to be used to push back civilians or control prisoners. In close combat such as clearing buildings accuracy wasn't important but easy maneuvering and stopping power were. For suppression fire it was more than accurate enough and accurate fire could be supplied by the M1 Garands. In fact he was a great proponent of sending large volumes of lead down range. As for the 45cal round it had good stopping power out to 150yrds and most combat was at less than 100yrds and could punch through thick underbrush. Both his side arm and main weapon used the same round. He personally preferred it to the M1 carbine because it had a higher rate of fire and bigger mag and as noted his ammo was interchangeable.
To sum it up by your standards it wasn't any good too heavy didn't have a nice site or finish okay. But my father chose to carry that weapon because it was the best gun available that would keep him and his men alive. No insult but I think I'll side with my dad
"Better than a Garand"
Spewed Mt Dew on my phone...
SVT-40 beats Garant easily
iota no...just no... smh
@@Axel-wj4sh lighter weight, detachable magazine, greater reliability and overall better comfort
iota No disrespect but that is one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever heard
@@Axel-wj4sh then prove me wrong
Call of duty kids: “The k98 has a 7 round removable magazine”
I would have an heart attack if one of my friends say that in my face.
Like seriously. Yes, the Lee-Enfield No.4's magazine is removable but you aren't supose to reload like you were shoving box magazines. At my knowledge, removing the magazine of a No.4 is intended for cleaning or something like that. For reloading, you do like usual: Shove stripper clips and that's it.
ArchOnua85 Gameplay[AOG] fr
is that what you do in the new ww2 game cuz i have only played world at war and, in that you use stripper clips
Dragonslyer yeah in Call of Duty WW2 if you equip extended mags on the Kar98 it uses one of those obscure “trench mags” developed during world war 1. However, those mags would’ve been stripper clip loaded, but in game it’s just removed and replaced like a drum mag
@@limpetarch98k something like that....yeah
Top 5 overrated guns:
"The first one is the mosin-nagant"
Me:
"Oh shit. I'm wet"
I like the Mosin because it's simple and it shoots a big bullet. I also have a couple bolt 30-06s for that reason. The only reason they're accurate is because 7.62x54 is a pretty decent round for shooting long distance, but so is a .308 and .338 for the same reasons
I own a model 1891 7.65 Argentine Mauser that is a very fine rifle.
try the kar98k, really smooth bolt. i agree tho, the mosin is hella simple.
That’s the shame with the price these days. When they were, it was awesome because you’d get a high-powered rifle and a piece of military history at the same time. Now though, it’s a much tougher and honestly impractical choice.
@@tawan_kd Simple? they're overengineered!. While the Mauser is like AK47 of bolt action.
"Here it is in 'Murican units, and here's it for countries that haven't put a flag on the moon" Lost my shit!
probably saidf american units cuz he doesnt know the actual name of the pound, jajajaj greetings from northern mexico!!
Imperial or standard in freedom land
Here it is in Murican units, and heres it for countries that dont have school shootings as a weekly occurance.
Violence is ingrained in the American way.
Nobody cares for the eastern bloc.
HonestGunReviews same, that was an amazing burn.
I don't own any of these. This was my first view of your videos. Beautifully done, nice voice very professional.
Thanks!
+TFB TV I agree about the Mosin, and I didn't expect MOA accuracy in a weapon of that price. But, it's fun to shoot, and much cheaper to shoot than a 7.62 NATO/.308. It's very simple and always goes bang when I pull the trigger.
+TideFan Yankee you're right about not having MOA accuracy but they can be pretty accurate with the right build and right user
Yeah! What they said!
+benchmstr there is a big mix up of confusion on the carbine m43/44, and the full barreled m1903's (if im not mistaken on nomenclature. Mine is stock, and sub MOA, and that's after letting it's barrel rust up with a years worth of corrosive ammo one time. I will still admit ya get what ya pay for on a Mosin, but I find the full barreled ones are accurate at least. Rimmed cartridges are retarded too. he forgot to add that.
Israeli gun “ if you like getting gassed in the face”..... I see what you did there ;).
@Star Trek Theory based
Star Trek Theory I actually just bought the book on that.
OH NO!!!
@Star Trek Theory *Yikes*
@@DolphinPain Yup.
The IWI Mini Tavor X95 is a huge improvement over the original Tavor! I love my IWI X95!
Me too. Works wonderfully...smooth action.
Not a bad bull pup rifle but not even in the league with the Styer AUG
@@MustardanBiscuits the Aug just has the quick change barrels, which would be good if the AUG rifles civilians could buy had the full auto option. Other than that they are both just bullpup rifles with mushy triggers.
TFB TV: "garbage rod is bad"
Simo hayha: "mitä?"
Simo didn't use a mosin, he used a Finnish M28/30, which, while similar, is not a Mosin-Nagant and has significantly better performance
@@nipcoyote1140 oh really? Most of the people say that it was mosin
More like:
Vasily Zaitsev, Michael Surkov, and the whole damn Red Army: "Чего?!"
@@anton.chigrinetc.96 *Well, that is True.*
It was actually a Finnish mosin, a Finnish made version
That Mosin is fine, comrade! It is not suppose to eject clips. This is so you do not waste good metal like some dumb capitalist pig, comrade! You pull it out, you put it back in your bag.......and if you come back alive, you use it again! Till it turns rust and goes to dust. Then you put the boolits by hand and hope for best.
OK?? =D
casey b true that comrade
True my comrade
Fuckin commie
BallsDeepInCereal. Wow, you figured out the joke, nice job!
Wrong , every household in soviet union had tons of black and coloured metals, they had so much they didnt care , especialy small shit like clips, im from post soviet country so i know what im talking about, every damn corner is filled with scrap metal...
Congratulations you pissed off about 11k people with this one video, I love it 😂🤣🤣🤣
Imagine if he'd have included the 1911, which definitely deserves a spot on that list.
Nothing wrong with loving your honda civic. But dont pretend its a Mercedes
I thought I'd see here Desert Eagle :D
Any Israeli made gun is rated high because they're actually good.
The Tavor is Israeli, and it is not good.
Charles XII of Sweden Ive never had a problem with one, It has flaws compared to other firearms but its mainly based on what you prefer style wise, Weight wise and such.
I thought I'd see here modern weapons not guns from the second world war designed 70 or 80 years ago lol
Folken Winters I did, mainly because many people put anything from the WW's on a pedestal
In the words of R. Lee Ermey, "Damn gun bit me!"
Ermey, I miss Gunny ;-;
Type 92 HMG
Plays COD: automatic firearms expert.
Bruh
Both of my last brain cells have just died
Watches one video: thinks he knows stuff.
@@danieldp380 all y'all don't know he's joking
I played pavlov for half an hour once, I think I am an expert at guns now.
You're pretty spot on with the mosin. I do love mine but I get it. One thing though....try the stripper clip again but make sure to run them home to full depth then swipe right with your thumb. The spring will lift the rounds up to the correct height, launching the clip out before you can even get to the bolt handle
I think I'll give that a try myself
Despite it's faults, I still love the tommy gun for fun at the range.
buuuuut.. not for battle. Unless it's a video game.
Then agian growing up in a world with mp5s mp7s and the uzi style guns you wouldn't know the battle feild uses and very few Americans alive today would
back yard stupidity What the hell are you babbling about mp5s and uzis? I had my M4: my best friend.
So this whole thread of replies makes zero sense...awesome
true
i love the mosin i've put 500 rounds through mine and about 250 have gone flawlessly, id like to see any of your fancy ARs do that
Smh
Best comment
smh
That’s a 50/50 chance of it firing lol
@@the_one_titan good job, you got the joke.
You called the Tavor the worst bullpup in production. Even with how it melts your face, I believe that it would probably be better than the L85A1. It was uh, not great...
Callum Hedges yeah well the l85a1 is terrible the l85a2 fixed all the problems and is great also the l85a1 is now out of production
Jameson Dymond it didn't exactly fix all the problems. Some of them yes, but many still remain as it jams easily in full auto and the zoomed scope on it has only recently been replaced with something that isn't filled with toxic gas. The L85A2 is far from great.
Callum Hedges The “A3” receiver (just the receiver is “A3”) is built more solidly and the internal rails don’t distort.
SvenTviking you have a good point but the L85's reputation has been toasted before the A2 was produced.
@@tyrbaan7295 do you know matsimus? The army guy on yt? He made a video about the sa80
Those two first guns are my favorite ww2 rifles I own a mosin and I completely agree with you. When I bought mine it was exactly how you said. I have gotten 3 people to look at the action to make it move quicker and with more ease it’s gotten better but still not much better, in the end I just got the mosin because of its historical significance. I just think the G43 looks good.
I’m definitely working “garbage rod” into my daily vocabulary.
mosin nagant is great rifle for its purpose. cheep gun for cheep soldiers
Yes comrade!
AYY BLYAT
Well when you have THAT many people why waste time right
petr súkeník Cheeki breeki
cheep gun for cheeper soldiers*
I'm going to get grilled for this one 😬
+TFB TV I'll have to admit, I got a little sad when I saw the Thompson on the list. But when I really think about it, it's just the stories and legend that rifle has with it that make it so great, not the actual rifle. I still think it's hot as, but just not very practical.
I will say I disagree about the mosin I have own all ww2 bolt rifle And the mosin can keep up with any them but I do understand it your opinion
you will bro 😂😂
+MrBrandonannette and foxy K31, mauser or smle over mosin
+TFB TV Please please, pretty please, with sugar on top, do a comparison between the Tavor and the SA-80??
The latter suuuuuuuccckkksssss
“Better than a Garand”
*Laughs in American*
"The G43 is like the RX-7 of guns"
So if I cram a Garand's receiver in there, it'll work just fine, right?
By the way, does nobody notice the irony of an Israeli rifle that gasses you?
nothing will fix that kraut garbage
@@jbloun911 agreed
LS swap a King Tiger and you’re unstoppable
@@McMan1ac nah man that shit needs a *DIRTY MAX*
JB911 it was a joke since 90% of RX7 owners swap the rotary with an LS engine
most overrated gun is the m16
but u can get it full auto if u have the money which is cool
+Socks M16 is the worst..feeding issues, jams, stovepipes...fuckin thing would literally have to polish it to work and unfortunately it's main war was the Vietnam war which was dusty and muddy and not friendly towards the m16 especially compared to an ak47 opposition which functioned flawlessly and bulletproof compared to the m16.
however the m16 ergonomics and concepts and working functionality moved on to craft the modern AR models and without the m16 never would have come to be. So the M16 was literally one of the greatest stepping stones in the modern world for the warrior, and also the hunter. despite it being a solid assault rifle the semi automatic AR models chambered in .308 instead of .223 are the ultimate gun for modern hunters and wished people would stop bashing AR model semi autos as assault rifles. They are not...as a hunter a .308 being so lightweight, short but still with proper twist and accuracy manoeuvre in tight brush, scope and accessory mounting made easy having the ability to stop and swap optics or iron sights on the fly, or even having a laser point targeting line...as well as rugged versatility...they are the best model ever created for hunters needs. Sadly they are not recognized by such...
PS m16 didn't win wars it was lucky to get a draw if not a loss in Vietnam lol...but still totally respect your opinion
***** you are very right there Socks! The m16 is now a historical peice when it comes to an infantry battlefield rifle. That will probably be added (civilian semi auto reproduction of course) to my future rifle collection for that reason. Still on my WW 2 collection build with my Lee Enfield, STG-44 (reproduction not original) and Mauser. Still need to find the French Mas-36. Totally skipping the Mosin Nagant "Garbage Pole" it came from a neutral country so I refuse to count it as a battle rifle, and quite frankly me the look of the Mosin Nagant rubs me the wrong way and even if it had legendary functionality for some reason it just looks ugly as sin in my eyes. No particular reason just bothers me visually...
I forgot to mention the ball propellant that they used that literally has soldiers laying their dead next to their weapons disassembled trying to get the damn thing to work
a gun that has a mechanism to eject jammed bullets it's for sure not reliable.I won't say that it is a bad gun,but mass produced m16 are just garbage.
Whaaaat, Liberia and Myanmar put a flag on the moon?!?
Yes they did in deed
yup, they too employed mr von Braun and his penemunde team at some point.
They planted their respective flags on the other side of the moon that the public does not get to see (politics you know).
Neither Liberia or Myanmar use the imperial system - they use the metric system but they're the only 2 countries in the world without an official system of until which for some reason makes people think they use the imperial
The Soviets put a flag on the moon before America and used metric as standard.
The "garbage rod" was an 1890-91 design. It literally was there when everybody was trying to figure out what a bolt action infantry rifle was supposed to be. It's almost a prototype that saw 70 years of military service. It is what it is. When fed decent commercial or handloaded ammo through a decent specimen it's a lot better than 5 inches for 5 shots at 100 yards
I would take a Kar98k, or a Garand, even an SMLE MkIII instead of a Mosin everyday.
Oh, btw, Steyr AUG > Tavor
ver br comentando sobre rifles sem ao menos conseguir uma espingarda sem burocracia é uma pérola.
alias, acho que vc quis dizer anytime ao invés de everyday
The SMLE is a great rifle
MrChristoffer5700 i know m8
I may be from Britain, But u can see the 98k is probably the best of the ww2 bolt guns. The clips for the Enfield aren't spring loaded, and the rims of the rounds need to overlap. I'd say that the rifles are comparable in accuracy, and the Germans didn't make use of their rifles as much
3:06
Putting anything german from the second world war on a pedestal...
*distant transmission breakage*
Not a Volkswagen .
so the only german tank you know is the panther and the king tiger?
@Robert McGuire Well it is true that transmissions on the panther and tigers were overloaded, but they were a fraction of the armor forces of the germans. Nobody talks about the panzer 3s or 4s which were great tanks.
dude ill be honest. for 100$, the Mosin Nagant is a very decent weapon. For 100$!!! Its not a match ar15 or anything but if you get in a 100-200 yard gunfight u can hold ur own
BG chal I've heard some guys say yrs ago, you could buy bulk Mosins for 50.00 each. I wouldnt mind an old original in fair shape for less than 200.00.
Mike Sokolow I got a 91/30 with matching serials and a hex reciever. I paid a bit over 200 so I certainly overpaid a little, but I would say it has been worth it. I mostly like it for it's look and 'character', and it has been reliable and mostly accurate so far. Definitely has flaws but I love the thing.
thejamaicaterror Shot one about 6 weeks ago, seemed pretty accurate at 100 yrds. Had smooth action .
Mike Sokolow I think they vary a lot in quality. Some are downright easy to hit targets 400 yards away and some are indeed garbage rods. Especially if you get them when they weren't being mass produced for the war, high quality variance.
Mosin Nagants haven't been $100 since before 2010.
An unfinished concrete floor and too many guns. Looks suspiciously like my house.
What is this "too many guns" you speak of? I have never heard of it.
For country's who haven't put a flag on the moon 😂😂😂😂
At the fact, not only US using the chinese level dificulty system
@neArac irk
Honestly the milimiters are better than fractionals
For countries who think they won vietnam war and use miles 😂😂😂😂
pixelmaster millimeters are for those people here still count on their fingers
How dare you say the Chicago typewriter is a bad gun, it only jammed on me 3 or 4 times firing one stick clip before the sear became jammed in such a way that I couldn’t take it apart so I took it to a gunsmith for an easy fix that only involved some cutting and welding. The gun is horrible and if you want a real tommy gun then you’ll need $30k for a full auto, otherwise you’re buying a $1500 heavy and hard to load rifle with the range of a pistol that will jam constantly and get you killed.
SpiderGamez sounds like you got a bad gun
Floofie kun I have that cheat code as well
@Floofie kun I like that RE4 reference!
SpiderGamez sometimes you don’t get a gun for efficiency, you get it for just being awesome like a Thompson, why is why they’re so expensive. Getting a semi auto one is like a blowjob with a condom on. I’ve shot loads and never have I had jam in fact.
Dude have probably never shot one so Stfu plz an stop complaining
My grandfather was in world war 2 and said there were many platoon leaders and NCOs that would trade off their thompsons for an M1.
My father was an infantry company commander in Italy He was issued a Thompson, but traded it for an
M1 carbine because he felt it was not properly controllable.
That's why the MP-40 was a better weapon because it was light, uses almost weightless ammo, reliable, and almost zero recoil.
@@ironsusgaming540 PPSh-41>MP-40
@@patximartel I'd rather still have ammo and. Be accurate with the MP-40 then waste mags and having to high of a fire rate trying to hit one guy with the PPSH-41.
@@ironsusgaming540 lmfao weightless ammo...give me 230 grains vs 115 any day. Also if you have proper trigger control the Thompson is a breeze to shoot. I actually prefer the Sterling over the MP40 any day if I have to pick a 9mm sub gun.
That was the most passive aggressive warning I've ever heard in my life. Lol
Same