FN Model 30: The First Belgian BAR

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @gooondie
    @gooondie Рік тому +123

    I’ll never tire of BAR variant content. What a fantastic video to wake up to, thanks my guy

  • @csipawpaw7921
    @csipawpaw7921 Рік тому +42

    After watching you disassemble the B.A.R. and talk about how the U.S. version was harder. I have greater respect for my father. He carried a B.A.R. during world War two in France. He never mentioned how hard it was to maintain.

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 Рік тому +11

      Im sure if its all you know then its not an issue. We have it easy being able to look at all the designs years after the fact

  • @HasturT
    @HasturT Рік тому +135

    I would love to see Ian going through all the Swedish versions of the BAR. They even made one that was belt-fed.

    • @JosephShemelewski
      @JosephShemelewski Рік тому +15

      That sounds awesome I never knew that

    • @HasturT
      @HasturT Рік тому +17

      Kulsprutegevär m/1937 Bandmatat. 6.5x55@@JosephShemelewski

    • @JosephShemelewski
      @JosephShemelewski Рік тому +2

      @@HasturT Cool thanks

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Рік тому +7

      Ah, the missing link between the BAR and MAG!

    • @JosephShemelewski
      @JosephShemelewski Рік тому +1

      @@hailexiao2770 It looks nuts based on the pictures I've seen lol I can see why it was never officially adopted

  • @USAACbrat
    @USAACbrat Рік тому +87

    The addition of a pistol grip really changes to operation of the BAR.

  • @Zach_Hazard
    @Zach_Hazard Рік тому +48

    It’s really interesting to me how similar to the mag-58 or m240 series the bolt, gas plug and piston are. At a glance you could be forgiven for thinking they came from a 240. It’s neat that FN looked at those designs and went “if it ain’t broke…”

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 Рік тому +7

      Especially when you turn the BAR upside down.

    • @MaHaL1337
      @MaHaL1337 Рік тому +8

      I think the funniest description I ever heard of the MAG/240 was "upside down beltfed BAR"

  • @adamannala5498
    @adamannala5498 Рік тому +39

    I can’t help but admire the design and engineering of some of these old firearms. The tech that went into them was truly revolutionary at the time

  • @wesleymiles8756
    @wesleymiles8756 Рік тому +287

    The US’ refusal to adopt a rifle with a pistol grip until well into vietnam is baffling to me.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Рік тому +39

      Try 500 years of firearms stock design....

    • @alm5992
      @alm5992 Рік тому +21

      Rifles without grips look a lot more aesthetically pleasing, but I doubt that is the reason lol!

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Рік тому

      Fudds: holding back US firearms procurement since 1889.

    • @User_Un_Friendly
      @User_Un_Friendly Рік тому +54

      @@alm5992 You'd be surprised...

    • @Joe45-91
      @Joe45-91 Рік тому +29

      The whole M14 project has a lot problems besides no pistol grip.
      As far as the BAR, I think the mag release is more a significant upgrade than the pistol grip. Just a personal opinion

  • @AxethatGuy
    @AxethatGuy Рік тому +92

    I have to say FN made the BAR practical. And it looks awesome

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 Рік тому +9

      Blaster from another age, all the curves, bevels and dovetails make it look like like an artisan built piece. Even the bluing on an old gun still holds up because sections were highly polished.

    • @bobbressi5414
      @bobbressi5414 Рік тому +2

      The rate reduction system seems overly complicated. I am assuming modifications to the bolt or recoil spring were not practical for some reason. I wonder how robust that rack and pinion system is.

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki Рік тому

      Strangely enough the Belgians also did the same for the Chauchat.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Рік тому +1

      If you want to see FN making the BAR practical, this is only the start. The Mle D was a vast improvement.

  • @eriksechobase
    @eriksechobase Рік тому +18

    Ha! I bought this gun at the Morphy auction. It's badass.

    • @DB-yj3qc
      @DB-yj3qc Рік тому +2

      Congratulations on a fine example of the BAR, I wish you many years of pleasure owning it.

    • @cassandrajoiner9933
      @cassandrajoiner9933 8 місяців тому

      Jealous.

    • @andrewmacintosh1388
      @andrewmacintosh1388 7 місяців тому +1

      What's going on with that chunk of metal that "ripped off" the receiver? Any issues? Repairs?

  • @hoilst265
    @hoilst265 Рік тому +59

    I hereby declare this the "Chocolate BAR".
    Because it is sweet. And, y'know, Belgian.

  • @ndenise3460
    @ndenise3460 Рік тому +18

    My stepfather had a BAR-D in Canada. It had been converted to single shot by cutting off the gas piston, and welding the gas system and bbl latch. A travesty I know but kept it from the cutters torch, until it was consumed in a Fire

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh Рік тому +8

      Did this fire occur during a "boating accident"? 😉

    • @Jreb1865
      @Jreb1865 Рік тому

      Actually, it sounds kinda cool...

  • @slappydave4241
    @slappydave4241 Рік тому +4

    I know a lot of things are better than this but man I love this aesthetic of the BAR

  • @normanmccollum6082
    @normanmccollum6082 Рік тому +26

    I really like that the Hi Power designer, that Belgian with the funny name doesn’t get the respect he deserves for that LEGENDARY 9mm pistol.

    • @JohnHughesChampigny
      @JohnHughesChampigny Рік тому +10

      Mr God Given Saive.
      Also responsible for the FAL and the initial work on the MAG.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Рік тому +7

      Mr. Saivé really deserves more props than he does. He sort of gets lost a little bit in the great firearms designer mix.

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Рік тому +6

      I have two. One is a pre 1939 model with a slot for a holster stock (which I don't have and don't want, thank you) and the other is 1976 build with a beautiful bluing job, walnut grips and target sights as I shooting competitively back then. As I was living on post, I kept it in the company arms room. Apparently, the armorer had never seen anything but parkerized M1911A1's, fell in love with it and showed it to the First Sergeant. So I was greeted one morning with, "That's quite a pistol you have, El Tee." I just grinned, "It sure is, Top"

  • @MrRaintall
    @MrRaintall Рік тому +4

    The bolt, bolt carrier, piston and gas plug look very similar to those from the FN MAG. Very cool to see the lineage

  • @schmaelturmturret19
    @schmaelturmturret19 Рік тому +2

    I find it really cool that you can look at the swapping of parts on the gas piston/plug and see how it is incrementally becoming closer to the M240/FN Mag gas system, which uses the same bolt and piston system
    over a century of history from the original BAR to the Lima variant, and not a whole ton has changed internally

  • @zulkifligumilang3155
    @zulkifligumilang3155 Рік тому +45

    We still use these beauty even today in 30-06 caliber, mainly by our Navy (mostly by ship crew, sailor and naval base personel). FN D just like the Madsen can serve really well for decades

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 Рік тому +4

      I mean if it aint broke. Seriously though I'm sure there are plenty of older rifles that can still be quite viable in modern situations. Even if they aren't top of the line.

    • @Joe-hz1nw
      @Joe-hz1nw Рік тому +8

      @@robosoldier11their biggest issue is the inability to add modern optics/force multipliers

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw Рік тому +3

      ​​​@@Joe-hz1nw The model D would be even nicer with a pic rail and a free floating handguard rail

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 Рік тому +6

      ​​@@Joe-hz1nwNo biggies,I hate picatinny regardless their practicality

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Рік тому +1

      What nation?

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield6451 Рік тому +1

    The "rate-reduction" feature of the FN Model 30, is very cool

  • @ROBERTN-ut2il
    @ROBERTN-ut2il Рік тому +7

    My uncle Art was the hunter in family (his stories of hunting for the mess hall with a M1 carbine while on occupation duty in Germany were classics). He had been an infantryman late 44-45 on the Western Front. He told me once, that after Bulge they got some strange looking BAR's with pistol grips and finned barrels to give two guns to a squad. As I got to know firearms better, I doubted his story - maybe just a mistaken memory of 30 years before. Then I discovered the Model 30. Did FN have some 30-06 Model 30's in stock that had sat in a warehouse since 1940? Did it make new barrels or rechamber existing Model 30's in other calibers? How did the US Army get ahold of them? Mysteries we'll almost surely never know the answer to.

    • @shaunw9092
      @shaunw9092 Рік тому +6

      I might have answers. Luxembourg used 30-06 as their standard cartridge, they were probably FN-D's. The Battle of the Bulge was fought in this area.

  • @anomonyous
    @anomonyous Рік тому +4

    It's always a good day when Ian uploads Belgian weapons.

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake Рік тому +1

      As a Belgian, I have to agree.

  • @RonZertnert
    @RonZertnert Рік тому +2

    You are a such a blessing Ian. I am making a video game featuring rare older fire arms and every time I think of something I would like to add, you do a full breakdown of it. Thank you so much.

  • @dirtyd2316
    @dirtyd2316 Рік тому +1

    One of the best versions of the BAR in my opinion.

  • @bami2
    @bami2 Рік тому +434

    Belgian Assault Rifle

    • @SASHA-the-EXPLORER
      @SASHA-the-EXPLORER Рік тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @dashingdave2665
      @dashingdave2665 Рік тому +47

      Oh, now we know it's really Belgian Armalite Rifle 😊

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 Рік тому

      the A in BAR stands for Automatic btw@@dashingdave2665

    • @dembro27
      @dembro27 Рік тому +14

      Belgian Belgian Assault Rifle Assault Rifle.

    • @Kremit_the_Forg
      @Kremit_the_Forg Рік тому +16

      ​@@dembro27
      Ngl gun's kinda sus... Doesnt read BELGIQUE BELGIQUE BELGIQUE anywhere.. propably a fake.

  • @practicaloccultist231
    @practicaloccultist231 Рік тому +1

    I love the BAR. Any video with a BAR in it instantly gets a like

  • @mcqueenfanman
    @mcqueenfanman Рік тому +7

    I met a WW2 vet who said they made you clean BARs as discipline for messing up, kinda like peeling potatoes.

  • @avp5964
    @avp5964 Рік тому +1

    The craftsmanship on interwar guns is so pretty. Nice machining gorgeous finish

  • @Archie2c
    @Archie2c Рік тому +4

    My father was a BAR man in the 101st as they were converting to the M14 from the Garand.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Рік тому +2

      So did all the BAR men get M60s?

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Рік тому +2

      @@tomhenry897 Interesting. I would've thought the men who had M1 Garands got M14s and BAR men M60s. So were the BARs replaced by the standard M14s or a special LMG version with bipod and heavy barrel?

    • @BeltFedSelfDefense
      @BeltFedSelfDefense Рік тому

      ​​@@hendriktonisson2915pretty much, nomenclature M15, short lived obviously. If you ever played CoD black ops, and saw the M14 and said that looks wrong, that's because it was modeled after the M15.
      Edit: did a double check, apparently no M15s were actually built, they just used M14E2s/M14A1s. Ian did a video about it like 8 years ago

  • @dougler500
    @dougler500 Рік тому +2

    Love the FN BARS, god they look so well made for early LMGs

  • @CaptnHayward
    @CaptnHayward Рік тому +1

    4:50 ah yes. I believe the technical term is ‘the shoulder thingy that goes up’

  • @robfromgpw5243
    @robfromgpw5243 Рік тому +2

    Thanks, Ian. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving

  • @masahige2344
    @masahige2344 Рік тому +2

    Some of the Chinese KMT 1933-39 contract of these have been seen with the Japanese triangle 'captured re-issue' mark. It's always amazing to think of the variety of people who used guns of a particular iconic origin!

  • @grimlock1471
    @grimlock1471 Рік тому +11

    The Madsen he covered the other day was like a Rube Goldberg but the BAR isn't exactly simple either.

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Рік тому +2

      True when I was a freshman in Army ROTC 1970-71 we still had some to familiarize with as some low priority units still had them. Complicated to field strip with lots of little parts to get lost. Not a fun time in the field.

    • @aaron6178
      @aaron6178 Рік тому +3

      Dude, totally. I'd rather service an antique swiss chronometer than the Madsen.

  • @andersmaidment
    @andersmaidment Рік тому +8

    I remember going through Tanker OSUT and working on the M2 and M240. Any time we had a pin or, especially, a detent to pull to a specific point to see in a hole in the receiver or frame our Drill Sergeant would say, "You got to see the titty in the window." It was a different time.

  • @diegoferreiro9478
    @diegoferreiro9478 Рік тому +5

    Some of these popped up in the Spanish Civil War (or at least some BAR version with pistol grip).

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS4 Рік тому +4

    Un magnifique fusil-mitrailleur modèle trente belge!

  • @stanfordwillis4841
    @stanfordwillis4841 Рік тому

    We pronounce the T in trente because there is an E after the T, otherwise it would be silent indeed !
    Good work dude, your pronunciation is starting to be outstanding

  • @johndaniels1197
    @johndaniels1197 Рік тому +3

    Is it just me, or does it seem really crazy to include a rate reducer that works by making it harder for the bolt to return forward and go fully into battery through just pure friction from having to push a lever out of the way? That seems like it would be inviting malfunctions.

  • @roadsweeper1
    @roadsweeper1 Рік тому +12

    I wonder what happened to all the tooling for the FN30 when WW2 started. You didn't see any German manufactured BARs, implying the tooling wasn't available to them. The Germans were quite good at taking over factories and continuing production for their own forces. Did the Germans just not appreciate the weapon when they conquered Belgium, or was the tooling destroyed?

    • @kevinoliver3083
      @kevinoliver3083 Рік тому +9

      I don't think the Wehrmacht were interested in the BAR, or in the Browning 1917.
      They used the 7.92x57mm guns they captured in Poland. But didn't continue production of either weapon in during their Occupations of Belgium and Poland.
      Apart from pistols, FN was used to make components for German gunmakers, including Walther. And also military motorcycle/sidecar combinations.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Рік тому +2

      They had stuff like the fg-42 to use.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Рік тому

      My guess is that most of FNs technical and management staff fled to the UK, so the Germans couldn't make good use of the tooling. The Reich was already short one both, and you can't just lapanka some Poles to crank out BARs.

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      ​@@kevinoliver3083they were when they were used against them....

    • @kevinoliver3083
      @kevinoliver3083 Рік тому

      @@kenneth9874 Repeat please.

  • @BerndFelsche
    @BerndFelsche Рік тому +22

    What a nightmare to strip.
    Don't believe that I could ever do that blind-folded.
    Unlike a Bren of similar vintage. Czech mate!

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      Bren? You might as well have a grease gun.

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ Рік тому

      @@kenneth9874 What a silly comment.

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      @@MarvinCZ have you ever fired one?

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ Рік тому

      @@kenneth9874 I fired a ZB-26 but even if I didn't, comparing a Bren to a Grease gun is so stupid, anyone who knows anything about those guns is facepalming.

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      @@MarvinCZ they're both cheap and simple and they both work ....

  • @bchin4005
    @bchin4005 Рік тому

    The main reason I appreciate Ian is his correct pronunciation of "height".

  • @TreacherousFennec
    @TreacherousFennec Рік тому +1

    I don't know exactly why, but there is something so appealing about this gun, i felt very similar for the M1907 as well
    Might be called "Browning Charm", as a diagnosed phenomenon, i am not sure

  • @jameslawrie3807
    @jameslawrie3807 Рік тому +2

    I wonder what the best bipods of the '20s and '30s was? Sort of 'the bipod to rate against'.

  • @LAHFaust
    @LAHFaust 11 місяців тому

    FN and Browning, name a more iconic duo.

  • @charliepoole9320
    @charliepoole9320 Рік тому +1

    I didn't scan through all the comments so apologies if somebody else already covered it but... while the updated mag release does look nice... form a pure military / law enforcement perspective... I like the original button mag release as, with proper training, I think one is just as fast as the other and, to me, I would be concerned about unintentional mag drops with the sliding release... e.g. it gets snagged on something or in "the heat of battle, the user getting "excited" and accidentally grabs the release instead of the trigger 😮

  • @lawrencelewis1036
    @lawrencelewis1036 Рік тому +1

    It seems to me that magazine release could be a problem in brush or when going prone. More likely to lose the magazine than inside the trigger guard.

  • @superkjell
    @superkjell Рік тому +19

    If Dieudonné Saive was American, he would be right up there with John Browning and Eugene Stoner as the most famous gun designers.

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 Рік тому +4

      In the rest of the world he is "right up there "

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 Рік тому +6

      Dieudonné Saive IS right up there with John Browning. Because John Browning said so.

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Рік тому

      I always say he was Browning's disciple.

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting Рік тому

    Great Stuff 💯 Thank you Ian 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @cristiansalguero9036
    @cristiansalguero9036 Рік тому

    🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 DESDE ARGENTINA BUENOS AIRES, SALUDOS.A MORPHY muy buenos los vídeos siempre los veo son muy bien esplicado le mando un abrazo 👍👍🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

  • @ArykSapien
    @ArykSapien Рік тому

    I really like that magazine release.

  • @danilonakazone386
    @danilonakazone386 Рік тому +7

    The first Belgian BAR is better than all the BAR USA used inWWl, WWll, Korea War and so...

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому +2

      Nah, not bad for a copy of a great American design though

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT Рік тому +1

      Nope

  • @denisvermeirre1024
    @denisvermeirre1024 Рік тому +5

    Excellent Ian. Simple pronunciation tip: Saive's name is pronounced as if it were spelled SEV in English. Also, in "fusil", the L is silent.

    • @martkbanjoboy8853
      @martkbanjoboy8853 Рік тому +3

      The Flemish BAR is vastly superior in all respects to this clearly Wallonian BAR. 😅

    • @mikeblair2594
      @mikeblair2594 Рік тому +1

      @@brianferguson7840 Thems fightin words boy!!!!

    • @martkbanjoboy8853
      @martkbanjoboy8853 Рік тому

      ​​@@brianferguson7840messin with the pomme frites - ono you dit-nt!This is the third rail issue for any nation to not go to. wrt Belgium 😅

  • @dennispeadero9513
    @dennispeadero9513 Рік тому +1

    It's even got the shoulder thing that goes up.

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker Рік тому

    Great story as always!

  • @AyoRabiu-ss9fr
    @AyoRabiu-ss9fr Рік тому

    Good explanation mccolins

  • @mr.apsylone9191
    @mr.apsylone9191 Рік тому

    Such a good looking gun

  • @josephgoman8223
    @josephgoman8223 Рік тому

    I love classic FN guns. They absolutely dominated military small arms for the past 100 years.

  • @aaron6178
    @aaron6178 Рік тому +3

    I prefer to refer to the BAR as Barely Any Rounds. All that metal and the bastard is out of hurty bits after a couple of controlled bursts of fire.

  • @westerngothia59
    @westerngothia59 Рік тому

    If you can do a video about the Swedish Kg m/1937: modified version of m/1921, with quick-detachable barrel.

  • @GearsAndGuns
    @GearsAndGuns Рік тому +2

    You should try to tie in war / hero stories that used the firearms you talking about if possible when applicable. Great video

    • @SA-xf1eb
      @SA-xf1eb Рік тому +3

      Sounds like a new channel is needed. 😊

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni Рік тому +6

      He rarely does battle history unless it's a specific firearm used by an individual. His channel is largely the broad history of firearms from a technical, technological, and logistical viewpoint.

  • @MushroomSnake2077
    @MushroomSnake2077 Рік тому +2

    I'm curious what the absolute unit of an anti tank rifle behind him is, is that one of the russian 14.7mm's or a 20mm cannon?

    • @jslaon
      @jslaon Рік тому

      Boys anti tank rifle I think.

  • @HellbirdIV
    @HellbirdIV Рік тому

    I admit I wasn't ready for the Fire Control Group to start quacking.

  • @sillygoose7646
    @sillygoose7646 Рік тому

    That’s a beautiful weapon…
    I mean Ian’s mustache, though the BAR is a close second.

  • @jessicasimp4459
    @jessicasimp4459 Рік тому +3

    Speaking of FN, and you did the teaser video of “The Most Expensive MG Ever Sold”… all I want for Christmas is the FN Minimi formal history and mechanics episode and it’s coming soon on almost definitely Christmas of this year 2023.

    • @ke6ziu
      @ke6ziu Рік тому +1

      I'll take an FN-MAG!

  • @fratercontenduntocculta8161

    That's a big FN BAR

  • @RobertPilla
    @RobertPilla Рік тому +4

    BAR: Big Ass Rifle!

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 Рік тому +2

    I call for the Ian drinking game (take a swig even time he tries french )😜

  • @fvzz1
    @fvzz1 Рік тому +6

    Would this be the model that the polish postal workers used to defend their post office at the start of WW2 ?

    • @MerrilSmith
      @MerrilSmith Рік тому +2

      You just watched The Fat Electrician's video didn't you.

    • @kevinoliver3083
      @kevinoliver3083 Рік тому +5

      No, FN developed the M1930 after the Poles had adopted their version of BAR.
      Most Browning wz 1928 guns were made in Poland, under licence. With only the initial batch of Colt made guns being bought from FN.

  • @trottermalone379
    @trottermalone379 Рік тому

    E Gads! I had not seen a BAR striped. No wonder they were so expensive!

  • @paulbervid1610
    @paulbervid1610 Рік тому

    Very cool

  • @Mr.Atari2600
    @Mr.Atari2600 Рік тому +1

    Belgian's Awesome Rifle

  • @SA-xf1eb
    @SA-xf1eb Рік тому

    Very nice.

  • @dude126
    @dude126 Рік тому

    Wouldn't want to take that apart on a freezing rainy January night in the pitch dark.

  • @MrBrentSke
    @MrBrentSke Рік тому

    Im from belgium ^^ nice looking gun

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Рік тому +10

    Firearms made from milled steel forgings have a character that stamped gins just can't match.

  • @michaelpeltier2772
    @michaelpeltier2772 Рік тому

    Can someone with better editing skills than me put together a super cut of the o loving pronunciation of Dieudonné Saive.

  • @biggerbehindthetrigger2814
    @biggerbehindthetrigger2814 Рік тому

    That's a really nice rifle.

  • @billykershaw2781
    @billykershaw2781 Рік тому +1

    Some dummy ammo with various comparisons and useable empty cases would really be nice...x

  • @dwightehowell8179
    @dwightehowell8179 Рік тому +1

    I would assume the gun is in the German 8mm. That is what the Polish were using along with many other countries.

  • @alaskanbullworm5500
    @alaskanbullworm5500 Рік тому

    The best BAR

  • @ndenise3460
    @ndenise3460 Рік тому +7

    After watching this breakdown, I have to say despite the massive amount of machining, the bren gun is better. I can't imagine having to field strip in austere conditions

    • @gunnargundersen3787
      @gunnargundersen3787 Рік тому +3

      To be fair on the BAR it was 20 years earlier than the Bren but yeah - Bren hands down.

  • @hendriktonisson2915
    @hendriktonisson2915 Рік тому

    What advantages does having the fast (600 rpm) full auto and slow full auto (350 rpm) settings give compared to having one full auto setting (for example 550 rpm) and semi auto setting?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  Рік тому +1

      In my opinion, none. I think the idea was to allow more continuous covering/harrassing fire at a slower rate that would conserve ammunition.

    • @onelonecelt9168
      @onelonecelt9168 Рік тому +2

      Ammo conservation. It's magazine fed and those go dry quickly. Light machine guns of the day also were used for anti air applications. You would want a higher cyclical rate against aircraft. For a light machine gun against infantry a slower rate of fire was more desirable. Semi in a light machine gun is also kind of useless, that is what rifleman are for.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Рік тому

      @@ForgottenWeapons I see. Thank You for the answer!

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Рік тому +1

      @@onelonecelt9168 The ZB26 and Bren LMGs had a rate fire of about 500-550 rpm and these were not considered to have too fast rate of fire.

    • @onelonecelt9168
      @onelonecelt9168 Рік тому

      @@hendriktonisson2915 I am aware of that, and agree with you, that they aren't too fast, but your question was on this gun and the possible idea behind the rpm settings. So I gave you an answer that probably sums up the idea behind it.

  • @masao2922
    @masao2922 Рік тому

    I wonder why I haven't heard of a bar with a shorter barrel and overall lighter. Could have been an early battle rifle, can anyone tell me?

  • @Se7enBeatleofDoom
    @Se7enBeatleofDoom Рік тому +1

    I guess you can say the BAR was set high for bAT variants.

  • @nowthenzen
    @nowthenzen 7 місяців тому

    early US Army org charts show the BAR used in the AA role. This changed quickly when the US entered the war.

  • @timothyedge6100
    @timothyedge6100 Рік тому

    Wait… somebody got workable and usable technical data from Colt?

  • @iffiorida1072
    @iffiorida1072 Рік тому

    Ideal for vaporising GIs in Enlisted

  • @psp1921tsmg
    @psp1921tsmg Рік тому

    The bar from Kelly’s heroes.

  • @bobbressi5414
    @bobbressi5414 Рік тому +3

    I had the opportunity in 94 to buy an original select fire BAR for 1700 plus 200 for the class 3 tax. I turned it down. If any of you invent a time machine I can go back and punch myself in the face.

  • @justinriley8651
    @justinriley8651 Рік тому

    the BAR is just cool 😎 👌!it's heavy, It's an antique but I still like it ! I think the pistol grip would be helpful in controlling this beast.

  • @minkinomics3002
    @minkinomics3002 Рік тому

    "Nyaa" at 9:32

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606

    A BAR with a pistol grip should’ve been what the US adopted for use as a battle rifle in the 1950s instead of the M14.

    • @patrickporter1864
      @patrickporter1864 Рік тому

      The BAR was 18 or so pounds and the fbi version was 16 pounds. A lot of weight for an average soldier to carry around. The m14 itself was around 9llb. Imagine if they made the fbi version in 7.62 x 39 or in the kurtz round. They could have had the fn fal but the ordinance board would not allow it.

  • @iosis2009
    @iosis2009 Рік тому

    Anyone know how to get in touch with Ian? I have an old revolver I'd love to learn more about. Reason to believe it may have been a civil war piece

  • @parkerottoackley6325
    @parkerottoackley6325 Рік тому +1

    Nice,,,

  • @dzoniemco6929
    @dzoniemco6929 Рік тому

    Dear Ian, why there has never been FN1910 and FN1922 review on your esteemed chanell? After all FN 1910 was the gun that started WWI so it deserves its own video. 🙂😁😎

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake Рік тому

      Cool guns indeed. In Belgium, you can find them for dirt cheap in most gun shops. FN made A LOT of them.

  • @sweetkiller9696
    @sweetkiller9696 Рік тому +4

    Isn't it funny that the other nations had better bar variants in their military than the usa which only used colt monitor rifle in the FBI I think

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      That's what happens when you try to think...

  • @grayearly3116
    @grayearly3116 Рік тому

    This gun has the real life "fuller auto" lmao

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 Рік тому

    This is what the US should have adopted but while keeping the aperture sight.

  • @GeotuberIsola
    @GeotuberIsola Рік тому

    Can u do more Croatia?

  • @runem5429
    @runem5429 Рік тому +2

    Wow, this is the polar opposite of space magic 🤣
    And seeing this dissasembled instantly answers the question everyone always have when they learn how heavy a BAR is, it seems every single part in there is made from the absolute largest volume of solid steel you could possibly fit in there - probably some of the parts even 3D-clip into each other 🤣
    And that dissasembly out the bottom is just so insanely wonky, like taking random devices apart as a child and going "I always have something left over when I try to reasseble it and it never works again" - not exactly ideal for a weapon of war..Imagine you have this apart at the front and get told the enemy is approaching and having to quicly get it working the in the dark...

  • @CCRipberger
    @CCRipberger Рік тому

    Knowing my luck, I'd hit the magazine release instead of the trigger at the worst possible moment in combat.

  • @timmeinschein9007
    @timmeinschein9007 Рік тому

    Technically the Gas System is an Internal Cylinder with an External Piston...