The Only Band Led Zeppelin Hated Touring With

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  • @user-surly
    @user-surly 22 дні тому +51

    Interesting dichotomy between title and content. "The Only Band Led Zeppelin Hated Touring With" implies deep loathing, yet the gist of the piece was that while there were fairly deep differences and some distance between the two bands, the fabled rift was overblown- and it wasn't so much Zeppelin having misgivings about Tull, but the other way around.
    Shades of "clickbait"...

    • @stevenr2463
      @stevenr2463 21 день тому +8

      absolutely

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 14 днів тому +1

      They always do this. Apparently, John Bonham privately thought they were boring, and made a few jokes about it.
      That's a far cry from their artistic visions philosophically clashing, leading to detest. We got fishhooked, my man.

    • @frankkeller3772
      @frankkeller3772 13 днів тому

      @@jessejordache1869 I remember Plant calling them Jethro dull once...

    • @raysearch-iu3fr
      @raysearch-iu3fr 9 днів тому

      Exactly right, mate. Absolutely love both bands, but this "story" isn't worth my time.

  • @mccallosone4903
    @mccallosone4903 10 днів тому +3

    man, my two favorite rock bands in one show. ive seen them both several times, but to see them in their prime wouldve been legendary

  • @RodericSpode
    @RodericSpode 21 день тому +10

    Maybe this wasn't the case when they toured with Led Zeppelin, but by the time I first saw Jethro Tull in the mid 70's, their shows included new arrangements of some of their songs, and a lot of instrumental material that wasn't on any of their albums. So while they didn't stretch Aqualung out to a ridiculous half hour, the way Zeppelin did with Dazed and Confused, they were far from one of those bands whose concerts were note for note recreations of their albums. There were a lot of bands like that actually.

  • @eldergods
    @eldergods 19 днів тому +5

    Also of note, Zeppelin, when recording Zep IV, was in the basement studio, while Tull were in the upstairs studio recording Aqualung. So, many of the stories may be true, but these guys knew each other fairly well and would occasionally "bump into each other" from time to time. I don't think "hate" comes into it.

  • @tedwojtasik8781
    @tedwojtasik8781 21 день тому +11

    and yet Tull's drummer, Barriemore Barlowe became Plant's drummer on Principal of Moments. When Zep started, Page was not 100% sure about Robert and there was talk he might not be around after the first American tour. When Page realized Plant's ability on stage and saw him develop as a performer he obviously changed his mind but on that first tour Plant was quite worried Page was going to sack him. In fact, Plant was paid the least on that first tour than anyone except for the roadies. I believe Richad Cole was making more money than Plant at the time. There is a story where Cole ordered Plant to go pick up sandwiches for everyone in January 69' and Plant never really forgave Cole for the slight. Not a coincidence that when Plant essentially took over Zep in 79' he immediately fired Cole.

    • @markcooper9063
      @markcooper9063 15 днів тому

      Clive bunker was the drummer

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 14 днів тому

      Richard Cole was, according to everyone, a complete schmuck.

    • @-dugair
      @-dugair 10 днів тому +2

      ​@markcooper9063
      Bunker was the drummer on the first few albums and left Tull in '72. Barrie Barlow came in for Thick as a Brick & the rest of the seventies. Bonham called Barlow, the greatest rock drummer England has ever produced.

    • @pattheslut
      @pattheslut 7 днів тому

      @@-dugair And when Bonham died,Barlow was rumoured to be his replacement,he had left Tull a few months earlier.

  • @Tony-y9q
    @Tony-y9q 21 день тому +9

    Tull's music can't easily be jammed; It's too complex and has to be rehearsed to the point of muscle memory taking over. Ian Anderson is a perfectionist. Two great bands, each with their own way of doing things. I doubt there was any hatred involved.

  • @markregan5882
    @markregan5882 22 дні тому +11

    My thinking was one of the reasons for Zeppelin's constant improvisation is there was no way they could re-create the songs live as they were on the recordings?🤔

    • @javlohudzlin4829
      @javlohudzlin4829 21 день тому +5

      No, because Zeppelin was about creating music in the moment.

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 21 день тому +2

      @@javlohudzlin4829yes exactly!

    • @Frisbieinstein
      @Frisbieinstein 21 день тому +2

      "I can't tolerate repetition." -- Robert Plant

    • @Unclevic64
      @Unclevic64 20 днів тому +3

      Jimmy, a quite gifted guitarist and composer, was used to studio magic overlaying multiple guitars and would improvise live as a result. Not that this had any detriment on their show. I loved every minute of it

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 20 днів тому

      @ me too.

  • @alexshkoditch4593
    @alexshkoditch4593 21 день тому +16

    By the time Zeppelin became superstars, they also maintained rigid setlists and even some "pat' introductions (Robert always seemed to mention Robert Johnson's Terraplane Blued at every intro to Trampled Underfoot). I am aware that Zeppelin had more improvisation within a song, but there setlists were almost identical within each tour. As a matter of fact, almost ALL of the British bands did that; it was American acts that varied their setlists from night to night.

    • @richardforefax
      @richardforefax 20 днів тому +2

      Hardley any improvisation, not there thing.

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 17 днів тому +3

      That's consistent with what the video said; although they used "rigid setlist" which is a bit silly -- other than one show by the Brian Jonestown Massacre where their tour manager got pissed off, canceled all their shows and quit: result, they played a concert for my best friend and I alone, I've never seen a band end a song and be like "what do you want to play now?"
      Different acts require different things: Robert Plant being a golden god and Jimmy Page being the "shadow" of "shadows and light" doesn't really require a script. You have a public persona: go out and inhabit it. Jethro Tull, having a frontman with a mercurial mad-hatter image, you've basically got to teach early-80s Robin Williams to play the flute, or you're going to lean on set routines. You can't be "on" every night.
      I keep getting links to these videos "Jimi Hendrix Hated This Band". Jimi Hendrix was interested in doing what Jimi Hendrix was doing: he may have had some private contempt for The Whomever (I didn't click on it) but it makes the late 60s music scene sound like a Jr. High lunch table.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 14 днів тому

      They would hate Beth Hart who not only changes her set list to fit the type of location she is playing at, but has changed the set list during the concert.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому +1

      The Who was NOT rigid in their set lists and delivery. They always changed things up. Example Live At Leeds, which is considered the greatest live album, especially from 1970.

    • @brianmcdermott281
      @brianmcdermott281 11 днів тому

      @@richardforefaxthey definitely did but it was sort of rehearsed sections that they would improvise over. Unlike Grateful Dead and Cream which actually improvised long jams

  • @dustinchase9187
    @dustinchase9187 22 дні тому +3

    Different approaches to music is what makes it so entertaining. If every artist approached music the same way the diversity could never be as great as it is. Zeppelin and Tull are both right in that they both created very good music. No diversity should come of bands that have different ways to make music. Different musicians in the same band trying to use different approaches to the music they are making could become a problem for the band, but that is a different topic.

  • @jeffpotts6187
    @jeffpotts6187 9 днів тому +2

    Did anyone catch that Zepplin's raw and improvisational style contrasted with Tull's precision and theatrics? Or maybe they just glossed over that?

  • @philmanson2991
    @philmanson2991 9 днів тому +1

    "More Shakespeare than Jackson Pollock..." What a wonderful turn of a phrase! Bravo!!

  • @astroglydecowboy
    @astroglydecowboy 17 днів тому +2

    i stood right behind clive bunker, on stage, at the Strawberry Fields festival. I literally could not believe what i was seeing. the best.

  • @richardwagner4460
    @richardwagner4460 21 день тому +2

    In Led Zeppelin Chicago Kinetic playground Feb 7, 1969 I saw Zeppelin, Tull, and Vanilla Fudge, the FUDGE being the A Band. It was excellent.

  • @derekpierkowski7641
    @derekpierkowski7641 21 день тому +3

    Simple fact of the matter is Tull was literally patterned after a traveling troop of Minstrals. Going from township to village and the occasional Castle!
    Zeppelin was closer to a traveling Circus!
    Both equally Entertaining!
    🤣👍🏻

  • @jakethomas3205
    @jakethomas3205 22 дні тому +7

    I saw led Zeppelin live and they were really good but nowhere as good live as the Who .They were incredible!

    • @markcooper9063
      @markcooper9063 15 днів тому +2

      Early 70s Who were the best band live.i had seen them several times.

    • @elkiebeerepoot5829
      @elkiebeerepoot5829 14 днів тому +1

      Have seen them both. Probably true. Still, LZ was amazing.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 10 днів тому

      @jakethomas3205 from 1967 to 1976, The Mighty Who was considered the band to beat. In 1967 The Who at The Rolling Stones Rock N Roll Circus as an example from 1967, and Live At Leeds from 1970, to The Isle Of Wight shows, 1970 and 1971.

  • @BigArnieNumeroUno
    @BigArnieNumeroUno 22 дні тому +5

    Two entirely different bands. I saw them both and they were great, Zeppelin as rock behemoths, and Tull prog masters with a sly grin.

  • @Midnightmidway
    @Midnightmidway 7 днів тому

    I love 'em both, would love to have seen a Zeppelin and Tull show

  • @noname-ll2vk
    @noname-ll2vk 13 днів тому +1

    This contrast is common between heavy bands and prog leaning bands. Sometimes it works as tour mates, sometimes it doesn't. It makes sense that Ian would not have considered distance and not connecting as a feud, but media (and drug) consuming Plant would have gotten snagged in a story that didn't exist but made for good press. I'm still drawn to heavy free form but find myself liking more free heavy prog too so I guess it all works out in the end.

  • @billlashure2008
    @billlashure2008 22 дні тому +6

    O9/05/ 1971-- at the Amphitheater in Chicago, I saw Zeppelin-- best concert EVER; also saw Tull same place diffetent date; good concert.

  • @johnburns3703
    @johnburns3703 22 дні тому +5

    Seen both. Both are a tour de force on their own. Thick as A brick is a masterpiece. Have loved Zep since about 68 and even travelled to earls Court in 75. Mick Abrahams remains one of my favourite guitar players, Anderson is another Embra cliche.. and a wild Salmon destroyer, yes he and daltrey!

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 20 днів тому +1

      Wild salmon destroyer? Care to explain this?

    • @joelhague5515
      @joelhague5515 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@michaelcraig9449 I too was puzzled for a minute...but I'm pretty sure he's referring to a woman's "lady bits." I've not heard this particular bit of slang before...but I think I'm right.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому

      Daltrey was one of the greats that acted like a real man on stage. Plant with little girls blouses with ruffles was difficult to watch.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому

      ​@@michaelcraig9449yes Roger Daltrey liked his Y bone steak as he called it. 😅

  • @2TrackMind-c6i
    @2TrackMind-c6i 19 днів тому +7

    I saw Zep three times back int the day, and Tull twice. NO comparison live. Tull was tight, precise, accurately playing what I paid to hear: Live album cuts. Sound mixing was off the charts great for those days. They were the ONLY band I had ever seen that actually had sheet music visible at every position.
    By contrast, Zep was all over the place. Plant's voice was shot. Page was clearly drunk and his guitar was out of tune. His solos were sloppy and he was sometimes off by two bars. Bonham was also clearly drunk, but drums are more primal than guitar so his performance did not suffer. By far, the best performer in the band - and possibly the best musician was John Paul Jones, who's Fender Jazz Bass through Acoustic 360's was clear and perfect.

  • @CBrolley
    @CBrolley 10 днів тому +2

    In the late 60s and early 70s The Who blew everyone off the stage.

  • @905if6was9
    @905if6was9 19 днів тому +12

    I thought Grand Funk would have been the band in question, since Zeppelin manager Peter Grant was furious with them in 1970 when they were just too damn good for Zeppelin to have to follow.

    • @edwardcoit9748
      @edwardcoit9748 19 днів тому +4

      No. They played longer than scheduled. And Peter Grant unplugged their equipment. The crowd started rioting. Fools missed the chance to see Zeppelin.

    • @markcooper9063
      @markcooper9063 15 днів тому

      My older brother went to the early tull zeppelin.he said tull blew them away.so the audience could get a great tull show and mediocre led zeplin

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 14 днів тому +2

      @@markcooper9063 I saw that concert -- that's the one where Robert Plant broke his leg, and the coach, who had a personal problem with Ian Anderson was forced to put the more talented quarterback into the game, and they won.
      Going over your time is universally regarded as a dick move; otoh, the manager pulling the plug because his band is getting "blown away" is corny. That just doesn't happen. Think about all the bands that have opened for the Stones throughout the years without getting their power cut. From at least 1980 on, any band opening for the Stones is going to blow them away -- I love them, but they've been living off of their pre-Goats Head Soup stuff for almost half a century at this point.
      If you like Jethro Tull and aren't that into Zeppelin, of course you're going to enjoy the band you like. I missed where you got to speak for the audience, though. Personally, I'd skip out on seeing Jethro Tull, by cheap drinks elsewhere, and maybe show up for the last 15 minutes. That's because I'm biased: I find Jethro Tull kind of monotonous, no matter how good their fans think their live show is.
      As the girls in my highschool would say, "stop instigatin'".

    • @Dan-zq5wt
      @Dan-zq5wt 14 днів тому +1

      I was just listening to a Grand Funk bootleg, They were really great. But a VERY different style than Zeppelin. Grand Funk is a good time rock band - they sound like a precursor to Boston and Ted Nugent with a lot of MC5 and Detroit sound. A lot more fun than Zeppelin, so if that’s your thing or what you’re in mood for, I can see how you might like it better. For me, I’ve listened to all the great Zeppelin bootlegs and I’ll take Zep’s power and adventurousness. But Grand Funk was great!

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 13 днів тому +2

      @@Dan-zq5wt I like your description of Grand Funk: I had sour face at Boston and Ted Nugent, and then you said MC5 and suddenly everything clicked.

  • @philipbrackpool-bk1bm
    @philipbrackpool-bk1bm 22 дні тому +4

    Probably explains why Tull could change personnel and zep couldn’t.

  • @TracyFClark
    @TracyFClark 21 день тому +1

    I saw Boston in 1977 and they played their debut album exactly like the album. The show was over in 45 mins. They were the headliner. People were pissed.

  • @mylesraymond7364
    @mylesraymond7364 9 днів тому +2

    He keeps saying how rigid and well mannered Jethro Tull was, yet every time they show Ian Anderson, he’s going berserk. Meanwhile, Robert Plant is just standing there.

  • @matthewearl9824
    @matthewearl9824 9 днів тому

    I agree, but the difference is is that jethro Tull is a progressive band. There are a lot of advanced nuances going into each one of their songs. Led zeppelin being basically a heavy rock blues band can improvise easily over their songs, as their base is much more easier to tread. Progressive music has a lot of timing changes in intricate details that make it easy to fumble if you aren't paying attention. And I have seen tull shows before, and they do improvise.

  • @eldergods
    @eldergods 19 днів тому +1

    Around the mid-70s, John Bonham was asked who's the best drummer and he said that Barriemore Barlow was the very best drummer ever to come out of Great Britain.

  • @chadbennett7873
    @chadbennett7873 7 днів тому

    Ian frequently make comments about Zep during shows. He once introduced Thick As A Brick" as Zeppelein's "Whole Lotta Brick." I saw both bands in 1970 at the Forum. Zep in September and Tull, a month later in October. My first two concerts.

  • @E.C.2
    @E.C.2 6 днів тому

    John Bohnam always looked like my Dad,literally. The beard,stocky build,and
    "do what I say boy" mannerisms.

  • @kevinstimelsky673
    @kevinstimelsky673 21 день тому +3

    Sen both bands in the 70s great shows both bands but The Who blew them away back in the 70s,, very explosive band!!

    • @Doug-le6wm
      @Doug-le6wm 10 днів тому

      Keith Moon's drumming was nuclear.

  • @davidgilmour9447
    @davidgilmour9447 21 день тому

    That surprises me. Loved both bands. Wish I'd seen that tour.

  • @ranganathanrajagopal3036
    @ranganathanrajagopal3036 10 днів тому

    TULL and Led Zep are unique in their way. Its true Tull is more complex in their playing style with more Medieval, Fairy tale compositions Ian performance is like a Dance Drama and Music. He brings out more emotion of the character he depicts in the stage. "Starvation and the mouth for a cup of Tea-" really echoed the starvation of a Tramp.

  • @MundaSquire
    @MundaSquire 15 днів тому +3

    I've read where the energy and showmanship of Grand Funk Railroad blew the Zep off the stage like a Hindenburg explosion. Is this true?

    • @edljnehan2811
      @edljnehan2811 13 днів тому +3

      True story😮 as a matter of fact I thought that's who they were going to mention in this video😮 I was surprised when it was about Jethro Tull instead. Just remember though the concert you're talking about was in Grand Funk territory which was Detroit Michigan😊

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому

      The Who and Grand Funk were the live bands to beat late 60's early 70's. Zep had great highly polished albums that did not transfer well to the stage like The Who or Funk. The Who were considered the greatest live band from 1967 to 1976.

    • @edljnehan2811
      @edljnehan2811 12 днів тому +1

      @@trajan6927 actually that would have been ELP especially in the early 1970s due to the Maestro musicianship and virtuosity

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому +1

      @edljnehan2811 E.L.P. was a great live band. Seen them 3 times in Detroit early and mid 70's. Great stuff for sure.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому

      @edljnehan2811 Carl Palmer is one of my favorite drummers. Met Palmer on a cruise about 7 yrs ago. Still can perform. Guy is unreal. Underrated.

  • @charliesierra6919
    @charliesierra6919 13 днів тому +1

    Saw Boston in 77' in Greensboro. I loved the band, but the concert speakers were so freakin' loud all I heard was a wall of noise with no differentiation between songs.

  • @charlesdbruce
    @charlesdbruce 22 дні тому +7

    As much as I love Zeppelin… their live performances were definitely uneven and inconsistent. I’d rather see a band that sounds consistently good every night. Having seen Tull back in the 80s I can attest that they were truly excellent live.

    • @stevelarkin5987
      @stevelarkin5987 21 день тому +2

      Bull crap - inconsistent? WTF do you know….

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 10 днів тому

      @@charlesdbruce yes Zep was often a poor live band. Many have said so. The Who were the powerhouse back in their prime.

  • @mojorisin7371
    @mojorisin7371 21 день тому +6

    Zeppelin was mostly a studio band and couldn't quite capture the same proficiency live and were mostly sloppy and drug fueled and quite frankly for me ruined their icon status. Bands like Black Sabbath, Thin Lizzy and the Eagles did similar intoxicants and yet managed to sound as good as their studio work live.

  • @kushking420
    @kushking420 19 днів тому +2

    Love both bands, but "Jethro Dull" was too funny

  • @francisanosissi1
    @francisanosissi1 21 день тому +6

    Who cares... it's music,not ww3...

  • @thomasmcgivney4519
    @thomasmcgivney4519 21 день тому +2

    I saw LZ in 1970. No opening act. LZ live were spotty.

  • @alanmatthew5713
    @alanmatthew5713 6 днів тому

    I KNEW IT! Jimmy Page suggested a title for Jethro Tull's show in L.A., "Bore 'em At The Forum." I love both bands and although Led Zeppelin inspired me more as a guitarist, Jethro Tull is the better band,

    • @alanmatthew5713
      @alanmatthew5713 6 днів тому

      So it was Bonham? I always read that it was Page who gave that title. Let's not forget that Jethro Tull were never accused of plagiarizing.

  • @augustjohnnycrashed
    @augustjohnnycrashed 19 днів тому +2

    Tull was a little too Spinal Tap/ Shire of Frodo for me lol

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 11 днів тому

      I actually fell for the Spinal Tap crap and bought two albums. After listening to about 4 songs on one of them while drinking one night I threw them both far into the woods and didn`t even save the cassette tapes to use as blanks. As a musician and singer I was absolutely insulted and disgusted by the 5th grade lyrics. I still didn`t catch the joke, or whatever it was, until years later. I feel scammed.

  • @richardforefax
    @richardforefax 20 днів тому +3

    They co headlined with the Who in 69, the Who blew them off the stage.

  • @jessejordache1869
    @jessejordache1869 17 днів тому

    "Waiting at a bus stop...
    Five guys gonna pick me up!
    Yeah, scuba gear."
    -Scuba Gear, Frank Sinatra.

  • @sparks3423
    @sparks3423 17 днів тому +11

    Grand Funk is the band that blew Zep off the stage !!

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 12 днів тому +4

      Grand Funk and The Who were mighty live bands. Listen to their live albums. Zep was a very popular band but their live sets were rigid. They didn't explore and didn't very their performances and were very sloppy unlike like The Who or Grand Funk.

    • @johniverson7393
      @johniverson7393 10 днів тому

      hahaha yea you bet. don't think so

    • @aschule5684
      @aschule5684 10 днів тому +3

      @@sparks3423 yeah they were the hometown boy's and they were bringing the house down kickin' ass and takin names and Peter Grant freaked out when he heard the crowd, he pulled the plug on them and shut em down. I had someone arguing with me on UA-cam about this story trying to say it was because GF went over their allotted time but when I heard Mark Farner telling the story they were only 2 songs in when they got shut down so that is not the case!

    • @ChrisLawton66
      @ChrisLawton66 8 днів тому

      ​@@trajan6927well there's a completely uninformed opinion if ever there was one 😅😅😅

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 8 днів тому +1

      @ChrisLawton66 yep Grand Funk blew them off the stage. In 1969 Zep opened for The Mighty Who and of course The Who being veterans of live performances for the prior 6 yrs. kicked their arse off the stage.

  • @kingcurry6594
    @kingcurry6594 20 днів тому +4

    I've seen both live.
    Tull were far superior. Page was very disorganised and sloppy in particular. Led Zep were nothing like as good live as on record.
    Tull were even better live than on record.

  • @stretch753
    @stretch753 22 дні тому +3

    I loved both bands. Different approaches and equally powerful each in their own way. The disrespect was uncalled for.

  • @FreetoGrowBand
    @FreetoGrowBand 21 день тому +3

    Having seen both Tull and Led Zep in the 70’s… Tull was far and away the better live band.

  • @shjoed
    @shjoed 14 днів тому +1

    By the end of the tour, every member of zep had face hair, only time in their history....thinking they were paying homage to tull who were the best group musically and compositionally in the 70s. Zep knew, musicians know what the public can't hear.

  • @Allan-et5ig
    @Allan-et5ig 21 день тому +1

    Sounds unlikely. I saw Tull once (about 30 minutes was all anyone needed tbh) but Robert Plant has quoted from Tull; sorry I can't remember the quote. They were Blackmore's favorite band.
    I do believe that Page and Bonham maybe didn't admire Tull's precise running order, but I doubt they wasted a lot of mental mintues stewing over being on the same bill. Probably less time than this commment took.

  • @64north20west
    @64north20west 22 дні тому +1

    It's a good story, but I wish they muted that background noise.

  • @Jim-m9c6y
    @Jim-m9c6y 22 дні тому +4

    Seen both live,Tull was better no question about it!

  • @timheller8475
    @timheller8475 9 днів тому

    I saw both Bands in the 70s, Tull Every time they came here from 1977 till 2008 or so, and Tull put on a Better much better show then Zep IMO

  • @suino1433
    @suino1433 22 дні тому +3

    This is horrible AI.

  • @stevelauda5435
    @stevelauda5435 10 днів тому

    The Copper Penny blew Zep off the stage too, in my city of Kitchener Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 on November 4th 1969.

  • @thegreekgeekreborn
    @thegreekgeekreborn 22 дні тому +1

    Did they ever tour with the Fall?

  • @keithbarrand3918
    @keithbarrand3918 21 день тому +2

    I love both bands and have seen both live. I prefer Tull in a live setting because I love seeing the songs performed as they were written, even with a few liberties. I find the extended improvisation annoying and boring some times. The vast differences in off stage styles also made them somewhat incompatible.

  • @michaelkirkpatrick7483
    @michaelkirkpatrick7483 21 день тому

    Don't know what came over the Managers, thinking the tour would be a good idea.

  • @StamfordBridge
    @StamfordBridge 22 дні тому +7

    They would’ve hated Rush even more, a band whose shows were all about rehearsed precision.

    • @javlohudzlin4829
      @javlohudzlin4829 21 день тому +2

      Not about hating, just two different approaches.

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 21 день тому

      Yet some try to claim Rush is better, I personally would rather see concerts preformed differently, it’s performed with real passion.

    • @javlohudzlin4829
      @javlohudzlin4829 21 день тому +1

      @@sicotshit7068 I agree with you. Just think of the monotonous nature of playing the same thing, night after night!

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 21 день тому

      @ yes

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge 21 день тому

      @@javlohudzlin4829 I love both bands. Just posting in response to the video title.

  • @astroglydecowboy
    @astroglydecowboy 17 днів тому

    never mind the 'almost'....bunker was better.

  • @stevelarkin5987
    @stevelarkin5987 21 день тому +1

    There was no comparison

  • @ztienapm
    @ztienapm 21 день тому +1

    Does anybody remember laughter? Not exactly spontaneous on the part of Plant.

    • @RodericSpode
      @RodericSpode 21 день тому +1

      I love Robert Plant, but I always thought that was a goofy line anyway. What does it even? Who doesn't remember laughter?

  • @daawedge9324
    @daawedge9324 8 днів тому

    ledd zeppelin, died with John Bonham ....Jethro Tull ....rocks on , today ..Go Tull ..!!!!!

  • @johnroberts3723
    @johnroberts3723 22 дні тому +2

    Apples and oranges!.

  • @leemelone6482
    @leemelone6482 12 днів тому

    J. Tull was the only band we ever walked out on at Cobo Hall in Detroit. Never cared for their music anyway

    • @willicat44
      @willicat44 11 днів тому +1

      Too complex for ya? Tull great in concert as well as albums. Zep great on vinyl, kind of bleak and sloppy live.....

  • @blahblahoink
    @blahblahoink 21 день тому

    Two Leos going head to head was never going to be a good combo!

  • @mrminusmediacenter
    @mrminusmediacenter 15 днів тому +1

    Tull was just a bore fest. I never got Aqualung lyrics etc. It never made sense to me.

  • @Gizzmo77
    @Gizzmo77 22 дні тому +3

    I've always loved both bands. Totally different. Having seen both bands live, in my opinion, Tull were the better live band.

    • @javlohudzlin4829
      @javlohudzlin4829 21 день тому +1

      I much prefer the improvised Zeppelin approach.

  • @astroglydecowboy
    @astroglydecowboy 19 днів тому +1

    bonham hated tull because they had a drummer that was almost as good. almost.

    • @Loskov-my3xw
      @Loskov-my3xw 18 днів тому +1

      Bonham was a flat footed plodder that should have learned his rudiments compared to Barlow or Bunker.

    • @aschule5684
      @aschule5684 18 днів тому +2

      Bonham was the one who said Barrimore Barlow was the best drummer the UK ever produced!!

    • @edljnehan2811
      @edljnehan2811 13 днів тому +1

      Barry Bartholomew and Clive bunker were much better than John Bonham who is highly overrated in my opinion😮 the Great Carl Palmer and Bill bruford are better than all of them😮

  • @Michael-p2i
    @Michael-p2i 19 днів тому +1

    Zep would have loved touring with Nirvana. That'd be a great pair I believe. 😊🎉

  • @DaveAurelio
    @DaveAurelio 22 дні тому +6

    Tull way better than Zeppelin live. Tull was tight. Zep sloppy as hell. Very disappointing. Saw them both at Chicago Stadium

    • @DaveAurelio
      @DaveAurelio 21 день тому +1

      Zeppelin all great musicians, but very undisciplined live , out of tune and just nothing like the records. Left the show early

    • @aschule5684
      @aschule5684 18 днів тому +2

      Zeppelin's studio albums were masterpieces, live they were someone else. Never saw them live but I've seen much footage as far back to the beginning of their career and it seems they never tried to recreate their music live like you'd expect to hear it. I've never cared for any live Zep I've ever seen.
      Tull live however was stunning and very true to the music.

    • @jbonham78
      @jbonham78 15 днів тому

      @@DaveAurelioI think in general that’s bollocks. While every night wasn’t their best, the were known for playing for up to three hrs…

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 10 днів тому

      @jbonham78 Zep sloppy band live, but great studio albums. The Mighty Who had great studio albums but even better live shows.

    • @aschule5684
      @aschule5684 10 днів тому +1

      @@trajan6927 yeah very sorry I never got to see them live back before Keith died. The Who live was very powerful!

  • @mccallosone4903
    @mccallosone4903 10 днів тому

    you can tell this is an AI script, because it just says the same thing over and over and over

  • @DEADLIESTMAN1
    @DEADLIESTMAN1 9 днів тому

    what about Grand Funk??

  • @doughill8475
    @doughill8475 21 день тому +2

    How many times will you repeat the same basic story. We got it. Zep liked freedom, Tull needed order.

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 21 день тому +2

    Zep didn't like touring with Grand Funk Railroad as the opening act because they were too hard to follow.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 22 дні тому +1

    I think from the perspective of surviving as an artist and running a business, Jethro Tull had the right idea.
    As much as I like many of LZ's studio recordings, their live act was a joke, and they were maybe a bit too narcissistic.
    If their albums weren't so great, they wouldn't have made it, especially after ticket prices were no longer cheap. IA and Jethro Tull were viable long after the death of John Bonham, which was essentially end of Plant and Page as "legends" of rock. I have a lot of respect for Ian Anderson's work ethic and the fact that he actually has always was a responsible adult and a good businessman, although maybe a little too rigid at times, but Idk, I was not privvy to his requisite day to day decisions.

  • @peanut422hb
    @peanut422hb 12 днів тому

    Anderson has a short ring finger😮✌️

  • @kowalski3769
    @kowalski3769 11 днів тому

    What a crock. Look up the setlists of Zeppelin. They played 95% of the same setlist every night of a tour. Maybe the length of songs were stretched out, mostly Dazed and Confused, No Quarter and Whole Lotta Love but the core songs were the same night after night of any given tour.

  • @jammygitt
    @jammygitt 16 днів тому

    So it was a Yin/ Yang thang

  • @chriszenko3598
    @chriszenko3598 21 день тому

    I saw Tull at Madison Square Garden in the early 80s the opening act was Donavan who was booed off the stage and started crying. Felt bad for him the NY crowd was ruthless. Amazing. Tull opening up for Zeppelin sounded like a great pairing

  • @conartist267
    @conartist267 22 дні тому +4

    I’m with Tull on this one after hearing Page play so crappy and even out of tune.

  • @Joybuzzard
    @Joybuzzard 19 днів тому +1

    One song by Jethro Tull outdoes everything that Led Zeppelin ever did. Thick As A Brick.

  • @cnvi08
    @cnvi08 20 днів тому +2

    Ridiculous… Neil Peart was the greatest ever.

    • @cnvi08
      @cnvi08 15 днів тому

      @ so very wrong

  • @WillyCLARKE-g8c
    @WillyCLARKE-g8c 21 день тому +3

    Tull was great

  • @charleslanphier8094
    @charleslanphier8094 15 днів тому

    No one outside of Zep's circle liked Bonham. He was a bully and a mean drunk.

    • @time4807
      @time4807 14 днів тому +1

      Cool story with nothing but your say so.
      Who's surprised??? ;)

  • @riffraff3658
    @riffraff3658 21 день тому +5

    Zeppelin putting down another bands live act? 😂Zep was a HORRIBLE live band. Great in the studio though

  • @garethleitner9547
    @garethleitner9547 21 день тому +1

    Zep's complaints seem rather adolescent.

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 22 дні тому +1

    All the best live shows I have ever seen were heavily choreographed, ELO, Queen, James Gang , van Hagar etc Worst live shows weren’t, ZZ Top, dead, zep

  • @jamesd.wheeler6190
    @jamesd.wheeler6190 10 днів тому

    I saw both bands frequently in the 70s. Hands down Tull was far more entertaining! Looking back Zeppellin were Assholes!

  • @HalLewis-k8z
    @HalLewis-k8z 11 днів тому

    clickbait very little learned here

  • @50gary
    @50gary 22 дні тому +1

    I saw both the Who and ZED at the Pontiac Silverdome. The Who rocked so hard , Zep was near boring. Grand Funk blew ZEp off the stage in Cleveland and Grant ended the damage right there.

    • @stevefrankenbach8482
      @stevefrankenbach8482 22 дні тому +1

      Yes... the audience's appreciation for GFR was so embarrassing to Led Zeppelin, that Grant came on stage, stopped GFR and kicked them off the tour. GFR went on to be a headliner and sold out Shea Stadium faster than the Beatles!

  • @hazelmodisett4097
    @hazelmodisett4097 22 дні тому +3

    Both bands were much better on vinyl than live, although I preferred Zeps live show than Andersons spastic posturing & inane banter.

    • @javlohudzlin4829
      @javlohudzlin4829 21 день тому +2

      MSG 1973, for example, has Zeppelin performing "No Quarter", The Song Remains the Same, The Rain Song, Dazed and Confused" etc. much better than the studio vinyl.

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 21 день тому

      @@javlohudzlin4829on vinyl they had limited space, live they could extend solos, & add more to their songs. Listening to different songs from the different concerts, you can decide which version you like more. I like live at Earls Court In My Time Of Dying, more the May 25th version, then the 24th version. I think the 25th has more soulful passion vocals, & Pages guitar playing is better, not that it was bad the other night.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 10 днів тому

      @hazelmodisett4097 Zep was a
      great studio band with highly polished albums that didn't transfer well to the stage. The Who on the other hand were master blasters on the stage.

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 10 днів тому

      @ I’d guess because Led Zeppelin songs had more. Depth to them, but I find they were still absolutely amazing live. Only Led Zeppelin haters whine about them, I think it’s because they need to clean their ears.

    • @trajan6927
      @trajan6927 10 днів тому

      @sicotshit7068 Zep was sloppy live and most people know it, but were great studio band. The Who live was another level. Their performances were legendary.

  • @sciwiz57
    @sciwiz57 22 дні тому +1

    Like it or not Jethro Tull was just as popular

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 21 день тому

      LOL!

    • @RodericSpode
      @RodericSpode 21 день тому +2

      @@sicotshit7068 You can LOL all you want, but when both bands were at their peak from the early to mid 1970's, Jethro Tull absolutely was just as popular. Admittedly Led Zeppelin is much more popular now, but back then, they were both hugely popular.

    • @badgeholderdave
      @badgeholderdave 21 день тому +1

      @@RodericSpode Tull were very popular yes,,,,,but not as popular as Zep. Zep were selling out stadiums by 1973 and as for album sales Zep outsold Tull by a colossal amount.

  • @AlistairMulhearn
    @AlistairMulhearn 22 дні тому +3

    Give me Tull anytime.

  • @IToldYouSo2
    @IToldYouSo2 15 днів тому

    I had to stop watching half way through because the background music loop was giving me a headache.

  • @nigel8247
    @nigel8247 21 день тому +4

    I’m I alone thinking how overrated Zeppelin were?

  • @baneverything5580
    @baneverything5580 11 днів тому

    Elvis?

  • @doctorskull8197
    @doctorskull8197 20 днів тому

    Never a Zep fan. Plant’s screeching, effeminate voice ruined it for me. But that’s just me.

  • @ronjohnson-dq8sm
    @ronjohnson-dq8sm 22 дні тому +3

    I love Led Zeppelin, but what a bunch of wussy’s. They have their manager pull the plug on GFR and talk behind Tulls back like little girls

    • @matthewcoombs3282
      @matthewcoombs3282 22 дні тому +1

      Grant would never let another band upstage his boys.

    • @aschule5684
      @aschule5684 18 днів тому

      So I got into a back n forth with someone about this story and their take was that supposedly GF went over their allotted time that's why Grant had them shut down, I didn't and still don't believe that's true. I heard Mark talking about this and it kinda seems like GF was kickin' it a bit too hard. The hometown team was running away with the attention and Grant wasn't liking it.

  • @StamfordBridge
    @StamfordBridge 22 дні тому

    Jazz odyssey.