This Abus diskus lock is built tough and really packs a punch with the Abus Plus core. The Plus cores offer much better pick resistance than traditional disc detainer locks. This is a lock I would use.
Love the series of Abus Locks And iBIG thank you for the Spacers that makes a huge Difference to keep the pick Level and Getting the open when i first started on disc locks keeping the pick straight was HALF of my battle. Always good Stuff Al you always put in a HUGE Effort and it GETS bloody HARD to keep good interesting Videos week in week out you get to a couple of hundred you start scratching our Heads Whats Next
Thanks so much. Just glad it helps. Yes, it’s a LOT of work. Especially since I work full time. This requires late nights and weekends but I enjoy doing it. Feedback like this keeps me going.
@@СергейЛукашенко-т1ж Yes. Abloy Sentry to name one. But since they are more likely to use bolt cutters I would recommend a very thick Abus chain like the Protector Titan with the Abus Granite 37/80 padlock. Very expensive but very high quality. Check out a website called Lockitt I am not affiliated with them but they have some great products. Hope this helps.
I got the one size bigger 20/80 diskus as a fork lock for my motorcycle. Also got the Abus 9/16 security chain, Abus 5/8 concrete floor anchor, and Abus granit 37/80 to lock it down to the deck. I know there's better to be had, but Abus is pretty good, and really easy to get your hands on.
I think you did real good. I featured the 37/80 also and that is a beast. All great choices. I like Abus locks. At least their better ones. You should be fine. Just don’t leave it unattended for long periods of time. Ride safe.
You would be hard pressed to find any padlock resistant to power tools. But this is a lock I would use. I figure any lock that requires the use of power tools is a good lock. No shimming, no raking, no tapping etc.
Well done as always sir. I'm still learning DD locks and enjoy watching you pick them. I'm learning allot from you with all the tips and tricks that you share. Take care my friend. Go U.S.
@@AlbertLebel looking at buying a returned lock. Is there a problem if they don’t have the key code card? It shows a blurred out number on the lock box. Is there anything to lock for to determine if someone took it apart and didn’t get all the parts back in it before returning it? Thank you for your help.
Cool series on these ABUS locks, really enjoy watching them. You got lucky there with the 3x zero cut in the front, my 20/70 has a 4cut in the front and i need to counter rotate withe the tensioner... Only down side on these locks is, that the core is so short, that they will not include butterfly discs in the front or back, this simplifys picking quite a bit. Thanks for sharing, great video :)
Thank you. Yes, that's why I mentioned the disc count straight up. I was a bit shocked by this but also understood the lack of space in this lock. But I beat their best a while back when I featured their 37RK/80 with butterfly discs on video 306 that is an awesome lock. I still use it to practice. Now anything less is just fun
Happy to help. Comments like this is why I love making these videos. So thank YOU. Great choice. It will not be the weak link but the latch may be so hopefully it has cameras at that location. Don’t reply with any specifics.
Great video. I have a question. The 20/80 seems to have the plus on it. Seems a little bigger. Is it safe to assume its just as good as the 20/70 just a bigger size? Want something for my garage/storage. And i feel the “bigger” lock may be more of a deterrent. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you. Yes, if it has the Plus on it your good. Keep in mind the hasp you will put the lock on will likely be the weak point. Their usually very thin. But I agree on the deterrent factor.
That’s a tough question. Really depends on several factors. But I usually recommend Abus Plus, Paclock, American lock, among others but if you can afford something upper level I would suggest Bowley or maybe Abloy or MUL-T-LOCK. In fact, check my video [517] That one is absolutely fantastic.
Nice trick with the pen-tube spacers! Best 'diskus' lock I've seen and watching you work showed the more careful design tolerances of the false gates. Took more than average skill to do that quickly even with the nice Sparrows tool 👍👍 Would definitely see a grinder or bypassing the entire lock to defeat this IRL attacks so maybe a 9.5? Always a pleasure watching you work 😎
Yes, the old pen tubes can be used for many things. I recommend making 3-5 different lengths. And I agree, I would use this lock. Thanks for the kind words. MANY late nights to get to this level of picking
I agree that Abus does make really great locks! Thanks for the idea on using a pen for the spacers. Really great idea! Always cool videos! Take care, Albert!!
Thank you Steve. Yes, I have seen people selling spacers and it just doesn't make sense to me. This works very well. Just cut a few different lengths and then rub the ends on some light sand paper to make them very straight, that will help keep the tool straight while picking
another great video, gotten pretty good with DD locks. I definitely still got to toy with those more and simple, will eventually try slider. still sticking to the pin and tumbler locks at least I have a better chance at keeping my sanity with those even if I don't get the open 😁
OK, so I ended up buying the Abus Diskus. What a POS, the key jams, it is very hard to open, and often will not close all of the way, the key gets stuck at various depths of insertion. I could not recommend this lock as a fishing weight. A lock is of no use if you cannot use it
I can only recommend contacting Abus customer service Dept. Mine works flawlessly and I always recommend Abus due to their quality. Perhaps you don't have much experience using this type of lock. A disc detainer lock requires the key be inserted properly and all the way. They are quite different than a traditional pin tumbler cylinder.
@@AlbertLebel True, this is my first "disk detainer" lock, but I cannot believe any lock would be sold that is as poorly made as this Abus lock is. I was going to replace my other locks with Abus, but yesterday, I ordered Abloy. I think I have had enough of Abus for a while
@@imnew2nm324 Abloy are bit more expensive but their fantastic. Just keep in mind the Abloy Classic. Sentry, Exec, Protec etc. are all disc type cylinders and require the keys to inserted all the way and sometimes get rotated so you may have to get used to using that too. Just be patient. It's worth it. IMO, you cant go wrong with an Abloy
Great video I have a couple of these locks myself but besides this lock are there any other locks that you would recommend that in your opinion are just as good if not better for various reasons like being hard to pick or being durable or good for the value or whatever please elaborate if you can?
Thanks Adrian. LOTS of practice. I watched BosnianBill for quite some time before I ever posted my first video. I paid close attention to his techniques and tools he used.
My last video is on a DD lock. I need help coz I'm having problems. It's a Emerald 480 70 by burg wachter. It has a cut out on the 2nd to last disc & I don't get much feedback. Please watch & reply 🤔🖖👍♿
DO NOT USE cut away locks. Their garbage. They should only be used as a visual to see how a lock works. NOT for picking, NOT for practice. With any portion of the cylinder missing they will not act the same as a real lock.
Thanks Roy, not a lot. Just because I only have the Sparrows dimple flags and I don't come across many dimple locks. But I did do a couple on here including Mul-T-Lock pin in pin on videos 65 and 362 to name a couple. I would like to get a nice set a flag picks
Oh yes, LOTS of that. I still remember my first open. It was the Abus Plus 88/40 Chris Capune sent me without a key. That lock changed everything. It was my nemesis for quite some time. Then it happened, I learned what to feel for and got my first open
That’s a cool lock and a massive step up with the plus core 👍🏻 I have a question I’ve picked a few plus cores in bike U locks there not to bad once you get the hang of them but I have a a plus core padlock and I can’t get any feedback at all the discs are lose just wondering if I’m missing a trick ?
Ya I like the Plus cores. I would recommend trying to tension from other end but if that doesn't work you may have to try find a zero somewhere in the stack to tension from. But I can add this. I have a cheap DD bike lock I cant get anything from. I tried HEAVY tension from both ends and still cant ANYTHING to bind.
@@billyg.2600 Ya this was a surprise to me. I been watching him for a few years but not far back. Now he usually gets doubles so he can take one apart and see how to pick it or bypass it. Not much in the way of realistic picking. But the man is truly gifted
@@AlbertLebel and an awesome addition to my collection lol plus i dont have but like two dd so i just got to have it right ! lol so it is defiantly in my to get list!
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Love the series of Abus Locks And iBIG thank you for the Spacers that makes a huge Difference to keep the pick Level and Getting the open when i first started on disc locks keeping the pick straight was HALF of my battle. Always good Stuff Al you always put in a HUGE Effort and it GETS bloody HARD to keep good interesting Videos week in week out you get to a couple of hundred you start scratching our Heads Whats Next
Thanks so much. Just glad it helps. Yes, it’s a LOT of work. Especially since I work full time. This requires late nights and weekends but I enjoy doing it. Feedback like this keeps me going.
Wanted to comment pretty much exactly the same thing.
@@AlbertLebel are there any locks that you are not able to hack?
@@СергейЛукашенко-т1ж Yes. Abloy Sentry to name one. But since they are more likely to use bolt cutters I would recommend a very thick Abus chain like the Protector Titan with the Abus Granite 37/80 padlock. Very expensive but very high quality. Check out a website called Lockitt
I am not affiliated with them but they have some great products. Hope this helps.
@@AlbertLebel thank you very much
I got the one size bigger 20/80 diskus as a fork lock for my motorcycle. Also got the Abus 9/16 security chain, Abus 5/8 concrete floor anchor, and Abus granit 37/80 to lock it down to the deck. I know there's better to be had, but Abus is pretty good, and really easy to get your hands on.
I think you did real good. I featured the 37/80 also and that is a beast. All great choices. I like Abus locks. At least their better ones. You should be fine. Just don’t leave it unattended for long periods of time. Ride safe.
it is not anti drill resistant. that is because number 9.
You would be hard pressed to find any padlock resistant to power tools. But this is a lock I would use. I figure any lock that requires the use of power tools is a good lock. No shimming, no raking, no tapping etc.
Nice pick Al. Thanks for the information on the spacers, I appreciate it.
No problem 👍
Well done as always sir. I'm still learning DD locks and enjoy watching you pick them.
I'm learning allot from you with all the tips and tricks that you share. Take care my friend. Go U.S.
Thank you DJ, remember this, I started right were you are. Just LOTS of practice. You can do it
How do I stop someone prom picking ever lock I buy, then going in and picking my safe. They picked this lock the first night.
Get a high security lock. Check out Abloy Sentry. Or Bowley locks. Also Mul T Lock. And beware, most dealers online call everything “high security”.
@@AlbertLebel looking at buying a returned lock. Is there a problem if they don’t have the key code card? It shows a blurred out number on the lock box. Is there anything to lock for to determine if someone took it apart and didn’t get all the parts back in it before returning it?
Thank you for your help.
Great picking that Abus Plus!!! Cool spacer idea!!!👍👍👍
🐈🐾🐈⬛🐾👏👏👏👏
Thanks Chris, use what we have
Cool series on these ABUS locks, really enjoy watching them. You got lucky there with the 3x zero cut in the front, my 20/70 has a 4cut in the front and i need to counter rotate withe the tensioner... Only down side on these locks is, that the core is so short, that they will not include butterfly discs in the front or back, this simplifys picking quite a bit. Thanks for sharing, great video :)
Thank you. Yes, that's why I mentioned the disc count straight up. I was a bit shocked by this but also understood the lack of space in this lock. But I beat their best a while back when I featured their 37RK/80 with butterfly discs on video 306 that is an awesome lock. I still use it to practice. Now anything less is just fun
Thanks for the video! Picked this lock up for my storage unit.
Happy to help. Comments like this is why I love making these videos. So thank YOU. Great choice. It will not be the weak link but the latch may be so hopefully it has cameras at that location. Don’t reply with any specifics.
Great video.
I have a question. The 20/80 seems to have the plus on it. Seems a little bigger. Is it safe to assume its just as good as the 20/70 just a bigger size? Want something for my garage/storage. And i feel the “bigger” lock may be more of a deterrent. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you. Yes, if it has the Plus on it your good. Keep in mind the hasp you will put the lock on will likely be the weak point. Their usually very thin. But I agree on the deterrent factor.
Nicely picked Big Al! Great tip on the pen tube, just another example of why I always enjoy tuning in! Thanks as always, take care buddy 👍 👍
I appreciate that Brad. You keep me going
Great video , quite expensive ,just looking online in the uk between £45-£70, A lot more for a better core I guess.
Thank you. Yes, a bit more pricey for this type of core
Wow 😊, what do you think are the best padlocks?
That’s a tough question. Really depends on several factors. But I usually recommend Abus Plus, Paclock, American lock, among others but if you can afford something upper level I would suggest Bowley or maybe Abloy or MUL-T-LOCK.
In fact, check my video [517]
That one is absolutely fantastic.
Nice trick with the pen-tube spacers! Best 'diskus' lock I've seen and watching you work showed the more careful design tolerances of the false gates. Took more than average skill to do that quickly even with the nice Sparrows tool 👍👍
Would definitely see a grinder or bypassing the entire lock to defeat this IRL attacks so maybe a 9.5? Always a pleasure watching you work 😎
Yes, the old pen tubes can be used for many things. I recommend making 3-5 different lengths. And I agree, I would use this lock. Thanks for the kind words. MANY late nights to get to this level of picking
I agree that Abus does make really great locks! Thanks for the idea on using a pen for the spacers. Really great idea! Always cool videos! Take care, Albert!!
Thank you Steve. Yes, I have seen people selling spacers and it just doesn't make sense to me. This works very well. Just cut a few different lengths and then rub the ends on some light sand paper to make them very straight, that will help keep the tool straight while picking
another great video, gotten pretty good with DD locks. I definitely still got to toy with those more and simple, will eventually try slider. still sticking to the pin and tumbler locks at least I have a better chance at keeping my sanity with those even if I don't get the open 😁
Thanks J, you will get there. I started right were you are. If you have enough determination and time to practice you will do it
OK, so I ended up buying the Abus Diskus. What a POS, the key jams, it is very hard to open, and often will not close all of the way, the key gets stuck at various depths of insertion. I could not recommend this lock as a fishing weight. A lock is of no use if you cannot use it
I can only recommend contacting Abus customer service Dept. Mine works flawlessly and I always recommend Abus due to their quality. Perhaps you don't have much experience using this type of lock. A disc detainer lock requires the key be inserted properly and all the way. They are quite different than a traditional pin tumbler cylinder.
@@AlbertLebel True, this is my first "disk detainer" lock, but I cannot believe any lock would be sold that is as poorly made as this Abus lock is. I was going to replace my other locks with Abus, but yesterday, I ordered Abloy. I think I have had enough of Abus for a while
@@imnew2nm324 Abloy are bit more expensive but their fantastic. Just keep in mind the Abloy Classic. Sentry, Exec, Protec etc. are all disc type cylinders and require the keys to inserted all the way and sometimes get rotated so you may have to get used to using that too. Just be patient. It's worth it. IMO, you cant go wrong with an Abloy
I called Abus, they are going to exchange my lock at no cost, including freight. Time will tell
I can't get the black cover to move. What am I doing wrong
Not sure, it should just rotate out of the way
Great video I have a couple of these locks myself but besides this lock are there any other locks that you would recommend that in your opinion are just as good if not better for various reasons like being hard to pick or being durable or good for the value or whatever please elaborate if you can?
Thanks Charlie. Yes, the Abus Plus Granit are fantastic. Also one I can’t pick yet is the Abloy Sentry. They also come in various sizes.
That is great lock picking......
Thanks Adrian. LOTS of practice. I watched BosnianBill for quite some time before I ever posted my first video. I paid close attention to his techniques and tools he used.
My last video is on a DD lock. I need help coz I'm having problems.
It's a Emerald 480 70 by burg wachter. It has a cut out on the 2nd to last disc & I don't get much feedback.
Please watch & reply 🤔🖖👍♿
DO NOT USE cut away locks. Their garbage. They should only be used as a visual to see how a lock works. NOT for picking, NOT for practice. With any portion of the cylinder missing they will not act the same as a real lock.
This is not a answer to my question. The only cut is on the key. Did you watch my video on the subject?
Anyway have a great week 😜👍♿
I have one too. My go to choice for a discus padlock. Can't pick mine yet
I must admit this one was a bit easier due to all those zero discs right up front so yours may take another minute to pick
Got mine picked today 😅
Thanks for the video Al! Nice picking, that's definitely a solid lock. I don't remember, have you done much work picking dimple locks?
Thanks Roy, not a lot. Just because I only have the Sparrows dimple flags and I don't come across many dimple locks. But I did do a couple on here including Mul-T-Lock pin in pin on videos 65 and 362 to name a couple. I would like to get a nice set a flag picks
@@AlbertLebel anything in particular you've had your eye on?
Practice makes perfect 👍🏽
Oh yes, LOTS of that. I still remember my first open. It was the Abus Plus 88/40 Chris Capune sent me without a key. That lock changed everything. It was my nemesis for quite some time. Then it happened, I learned what to feel for and got my first open
That’s a cool lock and a massive step up with the plus core 👍🏻 I have a question I’ve picked a few plus cores in bike U locks there not to bad once you get the hang of them but I have a a plus core padlock and I can’t get any feedback at all the discs are lose just wondering if I’m missing a trick ?
Ya I like the Plus cores. I would recommend trying to tension from other end but if that doesn't work you may have to try find a zero somewhere in the stack to tension from. But I can add this. I have a cheap DD bike lock I cant get anything from. I tried HEAVY tension from both ends and still cant ANYTHING to bind.
@@AlbertLebel thanks AL I’ll give rear tension 👍🏻
If I remember correctly, lpl had one of these that he wasnt able to pick.
Oh my goodness, not sure I ever seen him fail to pick a lock. Can you remember the video #
Video 150 from six years ago. I imagine he's since picked it, or another like it, but still, not something often said on his channel.
@@billyg.2600 Ya this was a surprise to me. I been watching him for a few years but not far back. Now he usually gets doubles so he can take one apart and see how to pick it or bypass it. Not much in the way of realistic picking. But the man is truly gifted
Thanks for your video and the spacer tip. Do you have any recommendations on lengths?
Thanks for checking it out Barry. I cant give that info at the moment but if you send me an Email reminder I will help you out soon as I can with that
@@AlbertLebel Thanks for answering me. I am just looking for the approximate lengths of the tubes as a starting point to make them. Thanks again.
@@U8uxa8SP I am back now. The length of the one I used here is .23 in or 5.9mm And I recommend making the others in about 1/8 in increments
@@AlbertLebel I appreciate your answer, I will try this.
@@U8uxa8SP My pleasure. I will help any way I can.
tongue twister discus disk detainer! and now i need to go do some shopping lol
LOL, yes their a bit more pricey but worth it
@@AlbertLebel and an awesome addition to my collection lol plus i dont have but like two dd so i just got to have it right ! lol so it is defiantly in my to get list!
@@danareed1656 awesome. You rock. I am the same way. I see something I want I usually just pounce on it.
@@AlbertLebel ya im that way because every time i wait, what i want disappears! but ya bills always come first!
@@AlbertLebel oh and with the way prices are going if i dont get it now its going to cost more later!