Ball point pen bodies for the spacers! I had seen LPL's video about the spacers and wondered what I could DIY-thanks for coming up for the answer there! Always love learning something new.
An excellent tip for making spacers, thank you. Don't know why such a simple thing never occurred to me🤔great vid and pick and lock as always Al, have a great week ahead 😁👍
@@AlbertLebel Im just starting to learn have not had an open yet but im also trying a kryptonite kryptolok series2 bike u lock that was given to me and i think my problem is the round cylinder body of the lock and keeping the pick lined up and also that i might have to tension on a different disk then the front disk! but when i get some different disk locks that will be vary helpful
Nice bit of picking Al. Good idea on the spacers too. I was finally able to get my hands on a Sparrows DD pick. I haven’t tried it out yet since all I’ve got for DD locks are a couple cheap Chinese locks that are horribly made with thin disks and plastic spacers. So any suggestions on a good DD lock for a noobie DD picker would be appreciated.
Thank you very much. It took me a LONG time to get to this level on DD locks. I would recommend getting a Kryptonite to learn on. Their affordable and fairly easy to pick. The problem you will have is the Sparrows tool only allows tension from the front so if the front disc is not a zero you will have to learn the counter rotation trick also. Meaning sett all the discs, then use the pick tip to tension and counter rotate the tension fork until that disc sets
Great video i have not long started on my DD journey & em enjoying it so far i have Chinesum DD lock that i can pick it blind folded & an Abloy 330 that one is not giving me anything yet. I have just gotten my Sparrows DD Pick as yet i have not trashed the tip yet but its only a matter of time before it happens, i do also have a Chinesum pick which i have changed the tip to an ejector pin which feels much better, now i just need to make up & change the tip on the Sparrows pick, one lock that i di have is the Abloy 330 that i have been trying to pick but to date i have had no luck with it yet.
Thanks for checking it out. Just keep practicing. I recommend getting a couple Kryptonite locks to play with. If that Abloy is a Protec you will never get it with the tools you have. The Protec has a fork that runs down through the discs preventing rotation by pick tools and their internal shape is VERY unique. If you can disassemble it, do so and you will see what I mean. Their high tech. I have a few and I been working on a tool to defeat it but I'm not quite there yet
Yes I am having problems with two disks moving at a time. So you recommend heaver tension. And the butterfly disks you give a bit of counter rotation to help free it up? Thank buddy! 🐈🐾🐈⬛🐾
Ya these are very tricky to pick. Try find any disc your sure is a zero. Set as many as you can then use that zero for tension and try set the butterfly. And yes, I found heavy tension will keep unwanted discs from turning.
When reassembling, where do I put the two small metal balls that came out? Do I just throw them back in or do you need to place them in a specific place? Thanks! I'm new to lock picking so I'm not sure. Great video btw:)
No such thing as a naive question in my book. On these Abus Plus I do both. Start of using front disc or disc behind spinner. Once you feel everything else is set, use the pick tip on any zero disc so you can counter rotate the disc you first used to tension. Hope this makes sense.
@@AlbertLebel thank you very much - this is the first DD i've tried where it's so smooth turning it's hard to get a sense of the gates - perhaps that's just me ? :) Is that typical? I thought trying to tension off a butterfly was a No No. but you seem to be doing that here, no probs? again thank you for your time and thoughtful video to help folks.
@@itsallinhow your welcome. Yes, quality locks are smooth. Just take slow, one disc at a time and feel the gates. Tight ones are false, loose ones are true gates. Practice, practice and more practice.
Great pick of the Abus plus padlock I’ve been 3D printing spacers for a while now for people thought I had come up with idea apparently you and LPL had already gone up with the idea 😂
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That's interesting how they've basically compressed the core like that, and great tips as usual Albert, Cheers buddy ;-)
Yes, it does add to the pick resistance but obviously not a great deal. Just causes more friction.
Ball point pen bodies for the spacers! I had seen LPL's video about the spacers and wondered what I could DIY-thanks for coming up for the answer there! Always love learning something new.
Yes, ball point pen tubes work great and you could actually use different colored pens for each size.
Great picking!!
Cool explanation!!
Wonderful tray by Bobby!!
Nice tip on spacer making.
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Thanks Chris. LOTS of practice
Awesome picking, and thanks for the tips 👍
Thanks for checking it out. MANY hours of practice behind this
@@AlbertLebel Awesome, i just started on the Abus 88/50 journey. Its a good thing i enjoy a challenge. 👍
@@irishjerseyguy Keep in mind most do not have a zero on front or rear so you will need to learn the trick of swapping tension.
Nice lock and tray.😻
Well picked and a great tip with the pen tube. Good work MacGuyver. 😁👍
Thanks Don. Use what you have
Thanks for the video Al! One of these days I'll get to picking these disk locks
Thanks for checking it out Roy. We all start somewhere my friend
Excellent call on the ball point pen for spacers!
Thank you. We could also use different color pens for the different sizes to get fancy
An excellent tip for making spacers, thank you. Don't know why such a simple thing never occurred to me🤔great vid and pick and lock as always Al, have a great week ahead 😁👍
Thanks so much. That's the fun part of locksport. Look at the problem and try find the solution. Usually it's right in front of you
@@AlbertLebel this is so true😉🤣
the spacer idea is awesome
Thank you. I find them to be readily available and super cheap. Just cut different lengths. You can get several from one pen
@@AlbertLebel Im just starting to learn have not had an open yet but im also trying a kryptonite kryptolok series2 bike u lock that was given to me and i think my problem is the round cylinder body of the lock and keeping the pick lined up and also that i might have to tension on a different disk then the front disk! but when i get some different disk locks that will be vary helpful
Nice bit of picking Al. Good idea on the spacers too. I was finally able to get my hands on a Sparrows DD pick. I haven’t tried it out yet since all I’ve got for DD locks are a couple cheap Chinese locks that are horribly made with thin disks and plastic spacers. So any suggestions on a good DD lock for a noobie DD picker would be appreciated.
Thank you very much. It took me a LONG time to get to this level on DD locks. I would recommend getting a Kryptonite to learn on. Their affordable and fairly easy to pick. The problem you will have is the Sparrows tool only allows tension from the front so if the front disc is not a zero you will have to learn the counter rotation trick also. Meaning sett all the discs, then use the pick tip to tension and counter rotate the tension fork until that disc sets
As others have stated, great tip on the spacers! Pretty lock, and you did a great job picking (as always). Take care buddy 👍👍
Thanks Brad, yes, that pen tube trick is great. You can get several from one tube. I suppose you could use different color pens for each size
Great video i have not long started on my DD journey & em enjoying it so far i have Chinesum DD lock that i can pick it blind folded & an Abloy 330 that one is not giving me anything yet.
I have just gotten my Sparrows DD Pick as yet i have not trashed the tip yet but its only a matter of time before it happens, i do also have a Chinesum pick which i have changed the tip to an ejector pin which feels much better, now i just need to make up & change the tip on the Sparrows pick, one lock that i di have is the Abloy 330 that i have been trying to pick but to date i have had no luck with it yet.
Thanks for checking it out. Just keep practicing. I recommend getting a couple Kryptonite locks to play with. If that Abloy is a Protec you will never get it with the tools you have. The Protec has a fork that runs down through the discs preventing rotation by pick tools and their internal shape is VERY unique. If you can disassemble it, do so and you will see what I mean. Their high tech. I have a few and I been working on a tool to defeat it but I'm not quite there yet
Yes I am having problems with two disks moving at a time. So you recommend heaver tension.
And the butterfly disks you give a bit of counter rotation to help free it up?
Thank buddy!
🐈🐾🐈⬛🐾
Ya these are very tricky to pick. Try find any disc your sure is a zero. Set as many as you can then use that zero for tension and try set the butterfly. And yes, I found heavy tension will keep unwanted discs from turning.
@@AlbertLebel thank you so much!!
Will give that a go!!!
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You made that looks easy. I've only picked cheap Chinese DD's, not sure what a butterfly disk is.
LOTS of practice. The butterfly discs have a unique internal shape somewhat like butterfly wings. They make picking a bit harder.
When reassembling, where do I put the two small metal balls that came out? Do I just throw them back in or do you need to place them in a specific place? Thanks!
I'm new to lock picking so I'm not sure.
Great video btw:)
I just put them in the same hole where the screw was going to be and hoped for the best, still works but no idea if I did right lol
Yes, if need be, you can use a small tad of grease to make them stay put until you can get the core back in but thats it. Very straight forward.
@@AlbertLebel thank you!
naive question - are you tensioning from the butterfly disk? or?? many thanks for this kind kind video.
No such thing as a naive question in my book. On these Abus Plus I do both. Start of using front disc or disc behind spinner. Once you feel everything else is set, use the pick tip on any zero disc so you can counter rotate the disc you first used to tension. Hope this makes sense.
@@AlbertLebel thank you very much - this is the first DD i've tried where it's so smooth turning it's hard to get a sense of the gates - perhaps that's just me ? :) Is that typical?
I thought trying to tension off a butterfly was a No No. but you seem to be doing that here, no probs?
again thank you for your time and thoughtful video to help folks.
@@itsallinhow your welcome. Yes, quality locks are smooth. Just take slow, one disc at a time and feel the gates. Tight ones are false, loose ones are true gates. Practice, practice and more practice.
@@AlbertLebel thank you sounds great
I love your intro! I made my own tips too. The sparrows tip is junk!
I use Fiverr for my intros. Yes, their tips twist off.
Great picking as always sir. Take care my friend. Go U.S.
Thanks DJ. I still remember being intimidated by DD locks. MANY hours of practice later and I enjoy the challenge
Great pick of the Abus plus padlock I’ve been 3D printing spacers for a while now for people thought I had come up with idea apparently you and LPL had already gone up with the idea 😂
Thank you very much. Yes, I been using the pen tube idea for quite some time. You can even use different colored ones for each size.