Reminds me of a quote regarding the design of the space shuttle external tank: "That big tube down the side was officially called a "systems tunnel", which is aerospace contractor speak for "big tube down the side."
I came here to post the same thing. I knew it had rotating discs, but had no idea how it worked until I saw the cutaway with the discs and the side bar. This type of lock always had me puzzled. Not any more...
I was looking for a name of this kind of lock for a long time. It is super hard to unlock compared to pin tumbler locks. Now i am more sure that no one is going to steal my bike when i have this kind of lock 😁 I am begginer at lock picking and managed to pick pin tumbler padlock with 5 pins under 25 seconds with paper clips. So i guess locking with pin lock would take 5 seconds for someone to steal my bike 😂 This way it takes bigger tool and little more time so less chance that someone is going to try to unlock my bike 😂
I've learned two things today - what it looks like when picking a disc detainer lock, and that I'd like LPL to consider a second career narrating audiobooks.
that woud require also coming up with not only ways how to defeat locks but also how to PREVENT them from being defeated and highlighting ones that are making the picking difficult and not explaining in detail how to bypass even those that are tough to beat ... man is epitome of "it only matters if i could, not if i should" ...
That was strangely, extremely satisfying to watch the false gates go to true gates. Must be satisfying to feel it happen as the person picking the lock
I wasn't sure what I expected from a disc detainer lock, but it wasn't quite this. I definitely didn't know about the bar that moved, but I didn't know what would be in there. LPL, I have to say that, even if I'm not a lockpicker, I absolutely love your videos just for the sake of curiosity and I especially love this Inside Perspective series you're doing. It makes all these locks make sense now on how they work and it's just super intriguing. Thank you for making these, especially with such a soothing voice.
This video helps so much, I now understand how these work and what it is you are doing when picking. This series is the best so far in furthering my understanding of locks. Cheers LPL
So happy the time I decided to subscribe was right around the beginning of this series, especially for the instance of showing somebody your content for the first time who doesn’t know anything about how a lock works. Fantastic!
4:04 Honestly, it's not just "a little more inside" for me. I finally know what you were doing in those clips, that I watched on your channel, especially why you twist the lock at first. Thank you very much and I hope you will do this type of video more often. Have a nice day.
I love this Inside Perspective series you've been doing! Just simply seeing the mechanism and how you actually work with it helps a ton in comprehending what's actually going on inside. I'm excited to see what else you decide to show us :D
So good, most underrated series of all time. Should have millions of views. I finally understand these locks and picking, compared to how the drawn pictures say it's supposed to work. Thanks again.
I've been looking forward to seeing this video since you started this series. Excellent video, I could never really visualise how a disc detainer worked, but this shows it perfectly
I really love these "inside look" videos. I have gone back and rewatched some of your older videos and now they make a lot of more sense to me. Now that I have seen what all the terms mean, I can picture what you are doing whilst picking. Please make more of these, they are great.
This bit of inside knowledge gave me a wayyyyy better idea of the nuances of what you are feeling when you are finessing the disks inside the lock. It's one thing to "say" what your doing and another to "show" what you're doing. Thank you.
This is easily my favorite series that you have done. Seeing what is actually happening when you say "nothing on one" or "probably a zero cut" is incredibly helpful!
Understood how these locks work pretty darn quickly thanks to this video and prior pin tumbler lock knowledge. Thank you for putting this little example together for us
That was awesome because it was very helpful to see it visual on how the disc look as you rotated. Do no why I was thinking it was going to act like a tumbler lock.
I've been hoping for a video like this for a long time as I was having trouble understanding how picking a disc detainer core worked, and this made it very clear
Thank you! This answered many of the questions I had regarding these locks. It also helps present a mental picture of what’s really going on, and it instills even more respect for your ability to figure this out without a cutaway example from which to learn.
Mechanical question: does the moving rod rely on gravity to fall into place? What happens if you hold the lock the opposite way? Thanks, amazing series, keep it up!
The tension created by turning the key pushes the rod into the slot into the discs. That's why some chineseoloy locks can be opened with a screwdriver and pliers.
@@thorlancaster5641 i doubt it's springs from the way the bar moves without being in the true gates. for sure the tension from turning the key like you stated
I think that showed what's happening much better than you think. Now I think I understand A) How they work and B) What you're doing! I think this was a GREAT educational video.
That's amazing!! I was just thinking the other day I wish there was a way I could see what was happening in there when you pick so my brain can grasp everything going on and this was perfect!! I have ordered one of these tools so can't wait to start practicing!!
This whole series is soooooo informative. I’ve got the fairly standard clear practice lock and basic pick set and a decent interest in the process and this series is scratching the itch of wanting to see how it’s done.
Thanks LPL. Now I can imagine easily what is going on when you pick a disc detainer. Very easy to visualise since I've now seen what's going on from the inside. Looking at all the comments I can see that I'm not the only one who has had their inner eye opened. It's like I now have a clear 3D model in my head.
Really well done. I was able to learn all this from watching you and BosnianBill so often but this should help people just now learning them understand how they work. This also points out what I have a hard time trying to explain to some folks about how some of the set discs can get skewed a bit when you are picking a lock with a spring loaded disc pack. It's not much but if the lock has good tolerances it can get tricky. BTW LPL, I am still having trouble trying to make a tool for the Abloy Sentry. I can only get the discs to rotate clockwise so far. That fork is my nemesis
That's awesome! It might not let us see everything, but the cutaway you created shows more than enough for us to understand how the mechanism works and how you exploit it's weaknesses.
wow i actually understand how both this lock and picking method work now. from looking at diagrams i could never properly conceptualize what needed to happen whilst picking a disc detainer but seeing this made everything clear. like a great fog was lifted from my mind what a good feeling [:
Nice! Already knew this from a good explanation from a lock smith as he was custom setting discs into an Abloy pad lock. But very nice to see this in action and the side bar.
I know you do some machining and home design stuff on your own, one thing that might be interesting to try would be to take this cutaway lock, remove the discs, and replace them with perhaps acrylic discs or something else that would be as transparent as possible, with maybe paint in the notches so you could see them moving around in 3 dimensions and the key/picks inside the discs. In either case, this was a really fun video.
I love the name of the tool you've used, "The Pick That Bosnian Bill And I Made" and it forever will be named that and bring a tear to the eye when spoken out.
Always great videos! Was able to single pin pick my first MasterLock today using the Genesis kit (4x today, I’ve been so happy 😂) ! Appreciate your channel a lot... I would’ve never even found this awesome, and super interesting hobby if it wasn’t for your channel getting large enough to randomly pop up in YT algorithm of recommendations a few months back! Keep up the good stuff!
This was incredibly informative. I've never picked a lock in my life, but now I feel like with that tool it's something I could learn to do. It's not magic after all!
I have yet to be able to open any of the 3 DD locks I have. I just don't seem to get any of the "feel" that you describe. Gotta keep practicing...I'm sure I'm clumsy as hell inside of that lock. GREAT series...very helpful!!!
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LPL: "This bar that runs along the side, also known as 'the side bar'."
Me: nodding along like the expert I am
meanwhile, me: SIDEBAR, YOUR HONOR!
Reminds me of a quote regarding the design of the space shuttle external tank:
"That big tube down the side was officially called a "systems tunnel", which is aerospace contractor speak for "big tube down the side."
I thought that would be the bar you go to after being thrown out from the first one.
@@cameronjadewallace Beat me to it... Curses, foiled again!!
@@lancer525 😹😉
Your “Inside Perspective” series is fantastic. I had NO idea what a disc detainer lock was like before this. This video made it so clear.
I came here to post the same thing. I knew it had rotating discs, but had no idea how it worked until I saw the cutaway with the discs and the side bar.
This type of lock always had me puzzled. Not any more...
Same here. Now i also understand what falling into a false gate means as well
Same
Seriously, all i knew it as was "first we start by turing all the disks as far as they go!"
Amazing series and amazing work!
I was looking for a name of this kind of lock for a long time. It is super hard to unlock compared to pin tumbler locks. Now i am more sure that no one is going to steal my bike when i have this kind of lock 😁 I am begginer at lock picking and managed to pick pin tumbler padlock with 5 pins under 25 seconds with paper clips. So i guess locking with pin lock would take 5 seconds for someone to steal my bike 😂 This way it takes bigger tool and little more time so less chance that someone is going to try to unlock my bike 😂
I've learned two things today - what it looks like when picking a disc detainer lock, and that I'd like LPL to consider a second career narrating audiobooks.
Lol he does have a soothing, clearly articulated style of talking. Agreed
Third career?
He could be a Siri preset
@@neptune9512 a male siri , i guess . but i need him for android assistant , though.
One of the few channels I don't speed up.
This man is single-handedly improving an entire industry. Unbelievable.
Anyone buying a masterlock after watching these... also unbelievable. :-)
Agreed.
Lock picking is basically lock reviewing.
that woud require also coming up with not only ways how to defeat locks but also how to PREVENT them from being defeated and highlighting ones that are making the picking difficult and not explaining in detail how to bypass even those that are tough to beat ...
man is epitome of "it only matters if i could, not if i should" ...
That was strangely, extremely satisfying to watch the false gates go to true gates. Must be satisfying to feel it happen as the person picking the lock
It's always enjoyable everytime
I wasn't sure what I expected from a disc detainer lock, but it wasn't quite this. I definitely didn't know about the bar that moved, but I didn't know what would be in there.
LPL, I have to say that, even if I'm not a lockpicker, I absolutely love your videos just for the sake of curiosity and I especially love this Inside Perspective series you're doing. It makes all these locks make sense now on how they work and it's just super intriguing. Thank you for making these, especially with such a soothing voice.
In a little of four minutes you didn't only show me how these things work, but how you pick 'em. Great stuff.
Yes, thats just what it is- GREAT!
I have only one complaint about this series.
You should have done this years ago.
Incredibly helpful.
I was looking forward to seeing a cut away of this type of lock, and this certainly didn't disappoint. I love this series, keep up the great work!
This video helps so much, I now understand how these work and what it is you are doing when picking.
This series is the best so far in furthering my understanding of locks. Cheers LPL
I always was curious about, how these kinda locks work. This gave me a better understanding. Thanks !!!
So helpful. This series is incredible!
Thank you. Good to finally understand what you have been talking about all this time
I never knew how a disc detainer lock worked. Now it makes a lot more sense. Thanks!
So happy the time I decided to subscribe was right around the beginning of this series, especially for the instance of showing somebody your content for the first time who doesn’t know anything about how a lock works. Fantastic!
We were waiting for this one just so you would use the pick.
What pick would that be then? 😂
This is amazing. IT REALLY helps you understand the "feel" you explain when you pick and how to do it. I love it!
This makes so much more sense! The view is much better than I expected. Thank you!
By far the best video I have ever seen explaining DD locks. Thank you LPL
My regards to whoever did the cutaway; brass machines nicely enough but it is still work and this job was done well.
"The pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" ☑️
I'm not disappointed
My favorite video from you so far. Awesone work on this one!
4:04 Honestly, it's not just "a little more inside" for me. I finally know what you were doing in those clips, that I watched on your channel, especially why you twist the lock at first. Thank you very much and I hope you will do this type of video more often. Have a nice day.
I love this Inside Perspective series you've been doing! Just simply seeing the mechanism and how you actually work with it helps a ton in comprehending what's actually going on inside. I'm excited to see what else you decide to show us :D
Finally! Thank you!
I've been waiting for this video ever since you started the Inside Perspective mini-series. Excellent - thank you 🙂
So good, most underrated series of all time. Should have millions of views. I finally understand these locks and picking, compared to how the drawn pictures say it's supposed to work. Thanks again.
This is a terrific series. For the first time I feel as if I understand how this type of lock works!
I've been looking forward to seeing this video since you started this series. Excellent video, I could never really visualise how a disc detainer worked, but this shows it perfectly
Even knowing how disc detainers work, I didn`t realize the all purposes of rotating first and then tensioning without this video. Great stuff,
I really love these "inside look" videos. I have gone back and rewatched some of your older videos and now they make a lot of more sense to me.
Now that I have seen what all the terms mean, I can picture what you are doing whilst picking. Please make more of these, they are great.
Fantastic!!!!! exactly as i imagined it would work but it is really cool to see the inside prospective!! Thanks LPL
This bit of inside knowledge gave me a wayyyyy better idea of the nuances of what you are feeling when you are finessing the disks inside the lock. It's one thing to "say" what your doing and another to "show" what you're doing. Thank you.
This is easily my favorite series that you have done. Seeing what is actually happening when you say "nothing on one" or "probably a zero cut" is incredibly helpful!
Understood how these locks work pretty darn quickly thanks to this video and prior pin tumbler lock knowledge. Thank you for putting this little example together for us
That was awesome because it was very helpful to see it visual on how the disc look as you rotated. Do no why I was thinking it was going to act like a tumbler lock.
I've been hoping for a video like this for a long time as I was having trouble understanding how picking a disc detainer core worked, and this made it very clear
Love this series to see how locks work on the inside!!
Thank you! This answered many of the questions I had regarding these locks. It also helps present a mental picture of what’s really going on, and it instills even more respect for your ability to figure this out without a cutaway example from which to learn.
Mechanical question: does the moving rod rely on gravity to fall into place? What happens if you hold the lock the opposite way? Thanks, amazing series, keep it up!
Springs
@@CR-iz1od cool thanks
The tension created by turning the key pushes the rod into the slot into the discs. That's why some chineseoloy locks can be opened with a screwdriver and pliers.
@@CR-iz1od I haven't seen any locks that use springs, but they might do this in some Abloy models.
@@thorlancaster5641 i doubt it's springs from the way the bar moves without being in the true gates. for sure the tension from turning the key like you stated
I think that showed what's happening much better than you think. Now I think I understand A) How they work and B) What you're doing! I think this was a GREAT educational video.
Bravo, Bravo. 👏👏🎬🎬Very often wonder what you were talking about on these disk container locks and why a special tool is required.
That's amazing!! I was just thinking the other day I wish there was a way I could see what was happening in there when you pick so my brain can grasp everything going on and this was perfect!! I have ordered one of these tools so can't wait to start practicing!!
This whole series is soooooo informative. I’ve got the fairly standard clear practice lock and basic pick set and a decent interest in the process and this series is scratching the itch of wanting to see how it’s done.
Thanks LPL. Now I can imagine easily what is going on when you pick a disc detainer. Very easy to visualise since I've now seen what's going on from the inside. Looking at all the comments I can see that I'm not the only one who has had their inner eye opened. It's like I now have a clear 3D model in my head.
This was honestly awesome! Thank you! I finally understand how these locks work!
4:05 Absolutly.. I saw everything..
Curiosity fulfilled. Thank you.
Really well done. I was able to learn all this from watching you and BosnianBill so often but this should help people just now learning them understand how they work. This also points out what I have a hard time trying to explain to some folks about how some of the set discs can get skewed a bit when you are picking a lock with a spring loaded disc pack. It's not much but if the lock has good tolerances it can get tricky. BTW LPL, I am still having trouble trying to make a tool for the Abloy Sentry. I can only get the discs to rotate clockwise so far. That fork is my nemesis
I think this is the first disc detainer cutaway demonstration I've even seen. This is amazing 👏
The view is just perfect! Thanks LPL, perfect explanation s usual 👏
Easily the clearest tutorial on disc detainer picking I’ve seen.
That's awesome! It might not let us see everything, but the cutaway you created shows more than enough for us to understand how the mechanism works and how you exploit it's weaknesses.
wow i actually understand how both this lock and picking method work now. from looking at diagrams i could never properly conceptualize what needed to happen whilst picking a disc detainer but seeing this made everything clear. like a great fog was lifted from my mind what a good feeling [:
This is a fantastic series. Seeing the mechanism in action really helps one wrap their mind around how the lock actually works.
That was fantastic. It helped me understand how disc detainer locks work..
Definitely the inside perspective series is the best one I've seen it is so cool seeing how these locks work
The work in making the cut away in the lock is very skilled in itself
Any insight has to how these things work is always welcome, Thank You ;-)
While kind of dry compared to the usual LPL content, I really enjoyed finally learning about this kind of lock!
Nice! Already knew this from a good explanation from a lock smith as he was custom setting discs into an Abloy pad lock. But very nice to see this in action and the side bar.
That is cool to see the internals of these locks to see what you are describing while picking
I know you do some machining and home design stuff on your own, one thing that might be interesting to try would be to take this cutaway lock, remove the discs, and replace them with perhaps acrylic discs or something else that would be as transparent as possible, with maybe paint in the notches so you could see them moving around in 3 dimensions and the key/picks inside the discs. In either case, this was a really fun video.
Knowing how a lock is constructed is the first step towards defeating it effortlessly. Always take advantage of design flaws.
I love the name of the tool you've used, "The Pick That Bosnian Bill And I Made" and it forever will be named that and bring a tear to the eye when spoken out.
this gave me a good amount of info on how the discs in these types of locks work
Fascinating to see this working! I've been wondering how these work, good to finally see it in action
Love the inside the lock vids you've been doing. Thanks.
This is probably the best introduction to disc detainer locks online, don't sell yourself short :D
View was great! Now a have a much better understanding! And you said the thing!
I am still really new at picking, but this was an eye-opener. Thank you,
absolutely loved this one, it was kind of what i expected inside, except for the bar, very interesting!
I can't wait to see a wafer lock.
Great videos as always. Wonderful explanation.
Always great videos! Was able to single pin pick my first MasterLock today using the Genesis kit (4x today, I’ve been so happy 😂) ! Appreciate your channel a lot... I would’ve never even found this awesome, and super interesting hobby if it wasn’t for your channel getting large enough to randomly pop up in YT algorithm of recommendations a few months back! Keep up the good stuff!
One thing is certain that it's pretty delicate work ☺️
Visually, this is sort of a "oh well, duh" feel, but the explanation is so flawless that I don't feel stupid, I feel educated. Well done.
This series better than past thousand videos
Wonderful video, very explanative. It looks so easy when you're doing it with tool that Bosnian Bill and you made (TTBBIM).
Wow ! Learned something here for sure. Thanks LPL !!!
I have needed this video for a long time! Now I still need a disc detainer pick...
Brilliant LPL!
Your picking skills definitely aren't disputed, now your teaching skills are on show as well 👌
These are great teaching videos. Thank you! 👍🏻
This was incredibly informative. I've never picked a lock in my life, but now I feel like with that tool it's something I could learn to do. It's not magic after all!
As somebody who has never picked a lock (nor will most likely ever), I love learning how these different locks work!
This is great, didn't really know how DD locks worked before this.
Like a light bulb coming on! Thank you! 😊
wow this really explains a lot of what is happening! very impressive!
I have yet to be able to open any of the 3 DD locks I have. I just don't seem to get any of the "feel" that you describe. Gotta keep practicing...I'm sure I'm clumsy as hell inside of that lock. GREAT series...very helpful!!!
Really nice video. The view was good. I finally understand it.
This series is fascinating
YES YES YE TY for more informative/educational vid (rather than just a short picking one). much appreciated
Fantastic
Made it totally understandable for a non picker 👍🏻
Looks like a good lock!
Not many burglers are bike thiefs will think on this or have this knowledge/tool
The view was great. Thanks!
Well done sir 👍🇦🇺
Brilliant series.
I'd love to see more videos like this explaining the mechanics of other kinds of locks than pin & tumbler locks.
The view was amazing! Thanks lpl
Excellent video!😸
YES! Thank you for this video. I ve always wondered what made these so different :3
I like this better than all the "look how fast I can defeat this lock" type videos, that all tend to have the same format to each other.