Basic Guide To WFP Filters. RO Vs Double DI

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  • @TradMan
    @TradMan 4 роки тому +8

    Awesome vid pal! Very clear and timeless video. I'm sure this will help many folks out. Thanks for taking the time to do it!

  • @gazogle
    @gazogle 4 роки тому +2

    Really good video Dave. And love the Ova8 hoodie, looks grest and just in yime for the cold weather

  • @jetreadyuk
    @jetreadyuk 3 роки тому +2

    Very comprehensive video. I don't clean windows, but thinking of a pure water system for cleaning overspray after a pressure washing job.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому

      Do you know what the TDS is of your tap water. If it’s low enough you wouldn’t need the RO

    • @jetreadyuk
      @jetreadyuk 3 роки тому

      @@squeakycleandave1 Not something I've thought about actually. But bear in mind I would usually be filling from customer's supply as I'm mainly on pressure washing jobs. Thinking of pure water filtration being incorporated with onboard tank, but only being engaged for window rinsing.

  • @MrHawks-gh6xv
    @MrHawks-gh6xv 4 місяці тому

    I've been using spotless water for years an hour round trip in my van then I had a brain wave time to make my own great video

  • @deejaymobile
    @deejaymobile 4 роки тому +2

    Incredibly clear, concise and useful video. Thanks Dave, I know we spoke we about this before but the visual really helps cement the process into my head. :o)

  • @Stev3Martin
    @Stev3Martin 4 роки тому +3

    Good timing dave, just change my 4040 for the first time. Didn’t last long as I think my pressure was no good. So Got booster and new membrane and I’m now getting 320ppm down to 16ppm. Then zero after my resin. That’s 95%
    Hope it’s stays at 16ppm consistently now with the booster.
    Great video 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      I had the same problem before I got my booster pump 👍

    • @darrinperkins4842
      @darrinperkins4842 3 роки тому +3

      Steve Martin , you should do a back wash weekly on your Ro for about an hour it will make your Ro last much longer !! 👍

  • @zippednc6
    @zippednc6 8 місяців тому +1

    So with the entire system do you get home and leave the van filling up throughout the evening?

  • @ericcanniffe1645
    @ericcanniffe1645 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Dave I have started to harvest rain water from my sheds which is coming in at around 10 to 20 PPM would I still need to use Filter blocks like your set up I was going to use double DI vessels and from there to the tank also could you recommend a pump I could use the water would have about 30 to 35 feet to travel from my shed to the van thanks all the best Eric ☘️.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      Hi Eric
      Sorry for the delay. With a TDS of 10-20 i would just pump it through a double DI

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 5 місяців тому +1

    What about using like the filters on the wall in the blue canisters before the DI filter. Would that extend resin life?

  • @djbanger
    @djbanger 3 роки тому +2

    Really well explained mate

  • @Simmons2193
    @Simmons2193 5 місяців тому +1

    Could the 95% 'waste be used through a pressure washer? So tank for 100% pure for windows etc, and a tank for the waste? For pressure washing? Say 600l tank on van for waste and 250 for pure?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  5 місяців тому

      Yes bud it could be. although it called waste its still clean with just slightly more mineral in it

  • @chasingarrow
    @chasingarrow 2 роки тому +1

    Hi thanks for clear video. I have a question about my membrame suddenly it wont let water thru is it broken?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      How old is it? it could have become blocked over time and may need changing.
      Check all the connections first to see if there is a problem. If all that's ok see what the TDS of any water that comes direct from the membrane is. If its over 90% of the water going in it will probably need changing.

    • @chasingarrow
      @chasingarrow 2 роки тому

      @@squeakycleandave1 thanks for your reply. The membrame is only 7 months old. Ive bypassed it and ran water thru the other resin filter. The pressure in the system seems efficient. The blockage happend afther not using it for 10 days or so.

  • @wheremylifego3790
    @wheremylifego3790 3 роки тому

    Great channel bud, 1 new subscriber ❤👊🏻

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 5 місяців тому +1

    What about the bottle you fill with salt to reenergize the resin? Then, rinse it out, and the resin is good to go again? Or is that something different than the bottle you have there?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  5 місяців тому +1

      I think that you can reenergise the resin but for the work that it takes its not worth it

    • @mostlikelywedoitservices6926
      @mostlikelywedoitservices6926 5 місяців тому

      @@squeakycleandave1@squeakycleandave1 Well, your professional opinion counts greatly. Thank you.

  • @brettwilletts
    @brettwilletts 8 місяців тому +1

    Can you use the waste water from the RO for pressure washing, or do you have to put it down the drain?

  • @kavostat8130
    @kavostat8130 2 роки тому +1

    Hi
    What do you recommend for m/b Jet wash m/c , and sizes
    Please advise me on this, as i am setting up , Jet wash unit
    Thanks

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      I haven't got the most experience with jet washers so you might be best asking a supplier or one of the other UA-camrs as i don't want to give the wrong advice

    • @kavostat8130
      @kavostat8130 Рік тому

      What is position of the pump and controller with this double di system

  • @FlashTechEngineering
    @FlashTechEngineering 4 роки тому +2

    Good video Dave, the best investment for a water system is a pre water softener, then back flushed every 800-1000 litres depending on incoming TDS saves your r/o system 👍💰

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      Great advice thanks 👍

    • @FlashTechEngineering
      @FlashTechEngineering 4 роки тому +1

      Calcium and chlorine are the 2 main elements for build up and burning your R/O calcium hardens on the pleated material inside your R/O and becomes inefficient 👍

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      @@FlashTechEngineering 👍

    • @jonseddon7067
      @jonseddon7067 2 роки тому

      I have a question Flash (good name): I’m keen to set up a DI only system because I can’t park close to my house for very long. My thoughts were a triple DI arrangement to get the water into my van fast, but do water softeners really make a difference with a DI only setup?

    • @FlashTechEngineering
      @FlashTechEngineering 2 роки тому

      @@jonseddon7067 hi Jon, ideally more benefits to have sediment and carbon R/O filter in your system, the softener collects calcium and other deposits which fouls up your system, triples D/I you’re going to burn though your resin..

  • @michaelmckeary1165
    @michaelmckeary1165 Рік тому

    Thanks Dave, how do you flush the membrane?

  • @robevs100ok
    @robevs100ok 4 дні тому +1

    i have 120ppm what would you reccomend

  • @fergalfeeney686
    @fergalfeeney686 2 роки тому +1

    thank you very well explained,

  • @hudininet
    @hudininet 2 роки тому +1

    Perfect thanks

  • @robertwilliams2323
    @robertwilliams2323 Рік тому +1

    Hi i will soon be buying a new40/40 membrane but I'm wondering if i have the right One ?
    Currently i have a low pressure membrane , i just had my tap pressure measured and its 18psi also my water has a tds of aprox 350 -370 . Based on this info is it a high or low pressure membrane i need ?
    Also i have 1000L ibc tank , i have just cleaned it so i had the chance to see exactly how long it takes to fill from start to finish . . . it took 33 hours is that aprox what you would expect ? i do have it set on exactly 60% waste 40% pure water. so that works out 30L per /hr. . At the moment its not a huge problem as I'm using 300L per /day however should i wish to increase my usage this will be problematic.
    I spoke with window cleaning warehouse and they said if you use a booster pump it may run to fast for your resin to cope with and as a result your water quality may suffer.
    Any advice on these points i would be grateful
    Regards
    Rob

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  Рік тому +1

      Even with the lowest pressure membranes you need around 80-90 psi for them to work correctly so at 18 psi, you are way under what is required so I would highly recommend getting a booster pump.
      I don't know why WCW said your DI wouldn't cope.
      If you have a very small DI it may be worth getting a bigger one but I would recommend getting a booster pump first and trying that.

  • @seeitcleanphil
    @seeitcleanphil 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video Dave! Very informative....we have recently purchased an RO / DI systems with a booster pump and currently getting 2 litres per min of pure water...would you say this good?
    Appreciate there are many factors that take in to consideration the speed of the pure water delivery.
    Also on this what ratio would you say is good for pure vs waste water? is it 50/50?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  9 місяців тому

      It can be anywhere between 50/50 to 70/30
      50/50 produces water faster but it uses more resin

  • @misterbickis
    @misterbickis 2 роки тому +1

    I have 350 TDs. If I use a single or double di. Will it still come out as 0 tds

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      It will do but not for very long as it will degrade your resin very fast

    • @misterbickis
      @misterbickis 2 роки тому

      @@squeakycleandave1 resin calculators say I can get 500 liters. Is it possible. Cause I can just use regular water on windows. Then come back with my finite amount of pure

  • @geoffchapman9491
    @geoffchapman9491 2 роки тому +1

    Great little video, thanks. I want to set up a a pure water system to do my own windows and have a couple of questions. Could I reuse the waste water from the RO? (waste water should be the same PPM as the original tap water (yes/no). Is it possible to run the waste water to a tank and then use a pump the water back to the RO and back through a DI vessel? hope this makes sense, Cheers.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Geoff
      Thanks for the great question.
      The waste water takes all the impurities out with it so it’s a higher ppm coming out then the original water going in. It is possible to reuse it and filter it again but the more often it goes through the more impure it will become so putting more strain on the filters and resin so I would recommend not doing it if you don’t have to👍

    • @geoffchapman9491
      @geoffchapman9491 2 роки тому

      @@squeakycleandave1 thanks Dave, I appreciate your response

  • @grahambrown5874
    @grahambrown5874 2 роки тому +1

    I just recently fitted a water softener in my house. It has two resin tanks, so the system is always providing soft water through one of the tanks whilst the other is regenerating the resin. This remove the limescale (calcium and magnesium) so you don’t get the water stains around the sink and in the bathroom. Would this water be good enough to use with a WFP to clean windows?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      You would have to test it as it depends on the impurity of the water going in but for most I would have thought probably not.

    • @jonseddon7067
      @jonseddon7067 2 роки тому

      I’ve heard the softeners don’t just take out calcium, they switch it for sodium in the process. Check this out, but I thought the same as you until I researched it. I presume the DI then has to filter out sodium instead of calcium so you’re sort of robbing Peter to pay Paul. I would like a definitive answer on this myself though!

  • @spencerj1413
    @spencerj1413 4 роки тому +2

    Hi dave .Just tested my tap water. It's reading 63 ppm.
    Do you think it's worth getting a ro . As at the moment I'm useing di.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      For me it’s not just the price but the time it takes to keep changing the resin. Once you have the RO there is very little maintenance 👍

  • @Nico-nm9ed
    @Nico-nm9ed 4 роки тому +1

    hello.. thank you for your videos... What restrictor do I need for a 150 gpd membrane? I have 800 but the water comes out with very little pressure from the osmosis system.it takes 1 hour for 25 liters. is it normal
    ?
    I have 4 bars of pressure at the tap
    .Thank you

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      Hi thanks for watching the videos.
      Yes the 150gpd is quite a slow membrane
      I’ve never used one myself so don’t know a great deal about them but have seen them in use.
      For advice you are probably best contacting someone like Daqua who sell them
      www.daqua.co.uk/

    • @Nico-nm9ed
      @Nico-nm9ed 4 роки тому +1

      @@squeakycleandave1 Thank you.Have a good day.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      @@Nico-nm9ed you too👍

  • @patrickdelaney6738
    @patrickdelaney6738 2 роки тому

    My ro membrane is only last 3-4 months, about half the time my water going in is above 250; is there a better membrane designed for well water?

  • @vschampion
    @vschampion 3 роки тому +1

    What is the brand of that di system?? I need one to polish off my diy zero pure water hand cart system. I can’t find this type of di anywhere. Please help me locate this style of deionizer you are using in this video.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому

      This is probably the best place to get them. They are black now not blue but apart from that the same
      www.daqua.co.uk/divessels.htm

  • @jacobsoper7607
    @jacobsoper7607 3 роки тому +1

    I've just purchased a Di only set up... Wondering if its worth upgrading or just leaving it as it is... Tap water in my area is around 48ppm. Waiting to see how much I get out of the resin

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому

      The RO is a big layout. 48 is really low so might be worth sticking with the DI

  • @barrybakewell7968
    @barrybakewell7968 4 роки тому +1

    nice video dave

  • @denmargetson7964
    @denmargetson7964 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Dave, I was giving a ro system by a mate. My tap water is around 245ppm and when it goes through the ro system comes out around 5/6 ppm. Question is if I wanted to polish it so I got 0ppm could I just add a di vessel. If so which type/size would you recommend. Thanks in advance.
    Den

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому +1

      I’ve got a 25litre di but you would probably get away with an 11 litre if your RO is getting it down to 5/6

    • @denmargetson7964
      @denmargetson7964 3 роки тому +1

      @@squeakycleandave1 thanks dave you're a diamond.

  • @JamesSmith-bs9rx
    @JamesSmith-bs9rx 2 роки тому +1

    I wanted to wash my own property and do my own faciers and gutterings finding a pole and brush isnt hard the biggest issue is the pure water part I was thinking maybe a Gardiner slx pole or ova 8 with a Gardiner back pack but I'm struggling to find a cheap way of producing pure water I've seen some 5 part RO systems online for around 100 quid after watching your video not sure that will be good enough plus I will only use the set up around 4 times a year but in the long run it will pay for its self seing as a I have a large home with lots of white guttering and faciers sofits doing the windows aswell
    Do the filters deteriorate as soon as they are first used having water passed through them ?
    As I said I'd only wanna make a batch of pure water every 2 or 3 mouths
    Not every day or so like you guys so I'm I'm woundering are the filters deteriorate by how much water has passed through them ? Or by the time passed from first used ?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      I'm not 100% sure but I don't think that they deteriote but the DI resin might. I may be wrong.
      To clean your gutters and fascia you wouldn't need pure water. You could just attach your pole to the garden tap and use that. If you put a little washing-up liquid on your brush first you would find it a lot easier.
      As you don't want to don't need loads of pure water you would probably be best buying it.
      There are companies such as Spotless Water which sell it very cheaply. Just do a web search for pure water for sale in your area

  • @garybromley2913
    @garybromley2913 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video, where's best place to buy the equipment ?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому +1

      It’s always best to look around but a couple I’ve used or heard good things about are
      www.bladerightcleaningsupplies.co.uk/
      Or
      www.daqua.co.uk/
      Remember cheapest isn’t always best

  • @MrJonathanPL
    @MrJonathanPL 4 роки тому +1

    Hello brother!
    I’m just trying to build similar system for my van. I already ordered 4021 membrane + steel housing and two pre-filters, but I can’t find one of those 60/40 taps from your video 😢
    Where did you get it from?
    Greetings from Doncaster 😊🤗

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      Hi brother
      I got mine from Gardiner but they aren’t on there website anymore. I think Grippa Tank took over that side of there sales so it might be worth giving them a call

    • @MrJonathanPL
      @MrJonathanPL 4 роки тому

      @@squeakycleandave1 Thank You! 😊

  • @brownie2uk
    @brownie2uk 4 роки тому +1

    great video as usual Dave, i fill up at customers houses ( with permission obv) do you have to fill it slowly to get the most out of the resin? i just plug in, do the windows and come back top a full tank ready to go. just wondering whether to add a double Di bottle b4 my tank in the van, would mean 4 bottles in the van as i have two after the tank.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      The slower it goes through the better it works. I’m not sure about putting the extra vessels in the van.

  • @giaschowdhury1212
    @giaschowdhury1212 2 роки тому +1

    I like some advice how to start window cleaning business

  • @ryanmoore6
    @ryanmoore6 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing video. If you live in a high ppm area could you use 3 DI bottles in a row ? Or would this make no difference?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      You could do but it would be much cheaper to get an RO as you would use so much resin

    • @ryanmoore6
      @ryanmoore6 4 роки тому +1

      @@squeakycleandave1 thanks mate super helpful. These kinda videos are so helpful for people new to the game or exploring options for the future.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      @@ryanmoore6 glad you find them useful 👍

  • @qazwerspoil
    @qazwerspoil 4 роки тому +1

    Is it not possible to filter the waste water out the RO? Seems wasteful. Or has it got stuff in it that can’t be filtered out?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      The waste carries the impurity’s out with to so each time it passes through the filters it takes more to purify it

    • @qazwerspoil
      @qazwerspoil 4 роки тому +1

      @@squeakycleandave1 but what if the waste water was passed through the filters again so it was even purer and less wasted? Sorry if silly question...I use single DI at 30ppm...!

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      @@qazwerspoil the filter will have to work harder to get the water pure as there are more impurity’s going in to it then using fresh water

    • @jasonanstead291
      @jasonanstead291 4 роки тому

      @@qazwerspoil I have a double 40/40 ro system which i made up myself the first membranes waste water then that goes through the second 40/40 membrane i used to get 3 litres pure 6 waste. Now i get 6 litres of pure water so doubled my production of pure not much waste now so its saved me lots of water and time i get 360 litres an hour speak to june at gapswater i bought the spectrum ero membrane that on its own produced 4 litres a min at 90 psi i have a really good pump my tap pressure is only 40 psi hope that helps you im keen & Able window cleaning services

  • @completeexteriorcleaningse750
    @completeexteriorcleaningse750 4 роки тому +1

    Top info buddy

  • @NorthernSmog
    @NorthernSmog 4 роки тому +1

    I wish I had all this information before I started up, I went straight for a DI only setup from window cleaning warehouse and I'm really spending a lot of money on resin with 142ppm tap water. To top it off the tank I have isn't easily converted to accommodate an RO. 😔

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      Sorry I didn’t post the video sooner 🥴

    • @jonseddon7067
      @jonseddon7067 2 роки тому

      How much do you reckon it costs you per day? If you’re still used no the DI only method

  • @sgtvdave
    @sgtvdave 4 роки тому +1

    Why not di first the ro then di ?

  • @spencerj1413
    @spencerj1413 4 роки тому +1

    Dave can I ask .What's your tap water reading?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      Approximately 240ppm give or take

    • @spencerj1413
      @spencerj1413 4 роки тому +1

      @@squeakycleandave1
      F..k really.
      I'm in (swansea) and we reading from the tap 73 ppm.
      I'm just di and it works for me. But all ways wondered if it worth me filcking over to ro .???

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому

      @@spencerj1413 if you went over to RO it would be coming out really low before you put it through the DI so you would never have to change your resin

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 5 місяців тому +1

    I live in California, where water is like liquid rock. When it dries, it turns white on glass and cars. So, due to the drought conditions we contend with, I'm trying to figure out a cost-effective way without RO.

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  5 місяців тому +1

      I don't know what the price of equipment is there but here in the uk the RO is the most cost effective for a high mineral area

  • @VendsysselVinduespolering
    @VendsysselVinduespolering 4 роки тому +1

    I did the double DI for a year. Way too expensive. It degrades very quickly. Now I buy my water from another windowcleaner. It's the best I ever did

  • @BB-br4qh
    @BB-br4qh 3 роки тому +1

    A two membrane system will double the product amount and half the waste water

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому

      Have you got a link to how that would work please. How would you do it. Use the waster from the waste and would you need 2 booster pumps
      Always happy to learn new better ways

    • @BB-br4qh
      @BB-br4qh 3 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/BKu_e7MVLX0/v-deo.html

    • @BB-br4qh
      @BB-br4qh 3 роки тому +1

      I use this and it does work

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  3 роки тому

      @@BB-br4qh very interesting. Seems to make sense. Not sure how well it would work with a 4040 membrane as it’s much bigger then the ones on the video. They work best at over 100 psi so would probably need a second booster pump but it may be worth looking into
      Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @BB-br4qh
      @BB-br4qh 3 роки тому

      👍

  • @sgtvdave
    @sgtvdave 4 роки тому +1

    Why not recycle the water from the waste ?

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  4 роки тому +1

      Each time it goes through the RO the waste becomes more contaminated with the impunity’s taken from the pure water.

  • @whomadethis3200
    @whomadethis3200 3 роки тому +1

    You use the same intro music as Peter Mckinnon 😂

  • @JamesSmith-bs9rx
    @JamesSmith-bs9rx 2 роки тому +1

    I thought window cleaners either used RO filter systems OR DI tank
    Didnt think you needed both systems to get pure water
    Most window cleaners on you tube use just the RO system not the DI as they say the DI is more expensive in the long run keep changing the bags
    Were the RO filters last longer so works out more economical

    • @squeakycleandave1
      @squeakycleandave1  2 роки тому

      Any RO system is only guaranteed to get 95% of impurities out of the water so if your water goes in at 400ppm then it will come out at 20ppm which is too high for window cleaning so the DI is normally put in after the RO to polish the water removing the remaining impurities get the water down to 0ppm
      Maybe most of the UA-camrs don't mention this but it is industry standard.

    • @JamesSmith-bs9rx
      @JamesSmith-bs9rx 2 роки тому

      I never knew you could go to a fill up site an just buy pure water have you ever used a spotless fill up site ? Has anyone ever tested water from a spotless site to check if its 0PPM ?
      also thanks for that and about the tap water for the white sofits I always thought you needed pure water on them as I thought tap Water stained them I have been cleaning them my self with ladders and spray cleaning products with rags but it's far to much effort and dangours tbh what pole would you recommend ? .. I've heard good things about Gardiner slx and ova 8 poles
      I also need to reach up in to the peak of the apex to full height of a house as the faciers are on all 4 sides of the house and at the sides they go stright up to the apex not really sure how high that is with out measuring