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This can be so helpful in understanding water fed better windowcleaner.com/pages/understanding?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
As always thanks a bunch Steve!
Great video, as usual! I'm in Houston, and I find often times that the algae and mildew growth is significant....windows, frames, screens, walls, etc. I do complete exterior cleaning and we soft wash the walls/building etc. No matter how much you rinse, the sodium hypochlorite leaves a residue. The addition of my Tucker 40/60 system (which I actually mounted on the trailer, lol) and all the poles and attachments have allowed me to clean the glass and frames like never before and it is now a separate service for my business. I would add a tip that the use of a supply booster pump makes the RO system much more efficient. I get 90-95% efficiency when I use pressure above 80-90psi and more flow. This puts 200-300 TDS in cleaned to 10-20 coming into resin. Without booster pump, we only get about 25-30 out and into resin. On a large commercial job this can make a big difference when cleaning hydrophobic glass. To your point about chemicals.... I have found, on first time cleans, or the really, really dirty stuff, it can be faster or perhaps a bit more easy, to have a guy with a mop and/or bronze wool with some soap with a bit of additional chemical as needed to scrub ahead of WFP cleaning (with boars hair only). Just some of my experience. Finally - don't forget the carbon filter! The RO membrane is very sensitive to chlorine, and maybe not everywhere, but in many places the chlorine content is high in municipal water and it should be filtered out prior to using RO. Most RO/DI systems have it built in, but plan to change it every time you change the resin to be safe.
Just started a new job at my local window cleaning company! They've got me on the WFP currently and I'm also learning squeegee as well for interior windows. This will be useful information!
Hell yeah. I used to be on a wfp crew and we did work up to 88ft. I miss it so much I'm going to pick one up for weekend jobs.
Great video you're the man am knew in my business my company is pro max pressure washing and window cleaning and live in the Bahamas 🇧🇸 I need to get a water feed pole system
My tds is 349 to 400 in some areas I use a simple single DI 3/4 tank. The resin last me about 6 months I used it today on a home with wellwater with a tds of 380 I cleaned 74 windows spotless and my tank still reads 000. So Buy a cheap di first because 70% of your jobs you can't or choose not to use the system anyhow. Invest $280 not $1500 regardless of your TDS. Even my little portable DI system is a pain in the butt to setup. Go single DI then upgrade to di.
What Di tank do you suggest?
He said it! DI 3/4 tank
@@jesuscuevas84which one? do you have a more specific name or link?
@@westonwagner7071do some research man
I got a tucker 40/60 and run two poles for upper and lower at the same time with my business partner. We knock out a two story house in a hour.
I live in Chicago and most residential customers clean once a year a few twice a year so the windows tend to be very dirty come spring. With that in mind I started out using the hybrid and it just was not enough so boar's hair brush is the only way to go for me. Water pressure in a lot of the Chicago residents is real low to the point of the water dripping down the brush so of course a pump is needed which will set you back $60 to $90 and I always have two on my truck in case one goes down. One product that I really like using on real dirty windows is the Tucker Alpha Scrubber which comes with the swivel handle. And I purchased another swivel for my other brushes because it just works really well in those hard to reach corner windows on dormers or if trees and high bushes are in my way. By the way thanks for the video Steve0
I'm starting new....I've done about 6 different million dollar homes with ladders and squeegees but I'm thinking about buying a Tucker WFP ($3,100 marked down to $2,700 system). What advice can you give me and what do I need to do as far as Preventative Maintenance for a WFP system? I'm in Indiana a neighboring state
@@timekiller6163 Xero pure would be fine along with XERO Pro Ultra Light High Mod Carbon Fiber Water Fed Pole should be fine to start with.
I love cleaning windows, thank you for all of your help!!
@SteveOwindowcleaning i have a salt water aquarium and a RODI system that produces about 75 gallons per day, but i only use maybe 20 gallons of this, can i take the other 50 and put into a 55 gallon water tank on my truck, connect to a pump and use with a water fed pole?
The waterfed guru😉 Great explanation of waterfed!! I think you covered everything really well!!
Thanks Buddy!!
This video is gold. Your the man
I just brought my first wwwc water feed kit never used a system like this in my life so looking forward to learning, ive been watching you vids and they are awesome your tips are fabulous was alittle nervous to use but thanks to you i have a little more confidence ok lets get this going looks like ill be following you to learn proper techniques thank you so much from Forster NSW Australia
Hey, How's your business going???? Also which one did you buy? I'm looking for one as well. but im a beginner
@@ninjabieber7695 i went with wwwc it has the water fillering system and reaches 20meters, easy to use just hard on sholders and neck good luck buddy
@@andremartin4238 thanks homie, U still in the window cleaning scene?
@@ninjabieber7695 i expanded bro all property services i have a crew we do everything from washing windows all the way thru to High pressure washing picked up a massive contract for a builders clean 56 apartments 3 penthouses and a complex underneath fuckin cheering cuzzy
@@andremartin4238 holy shit, nice work dude! I wanna get up like u lmao.
Great topic Steve, I still have a lot to learn, so I’m here to learn. Thanks
I use a DI waterfed I personally don’t like TDS over 10 because of water spotting. I find certain frames like aluminium very difficult I try not to agitate it too much because it leaves spotting and run marks from the water running off the frames.
Hey bruv! Your videos are really amazing. I'm wondering if you can post a detailed video for beginners on how to use wfp step by step with all the basic and technical info if possible.
ua-cam.com/video/xrYX_HlIn-8/v-deo.html check this video out
Top video, steveO the window cleaner legend
Thanks 👍
Hey Steve, just recently started my own residential window cleaning biz and so far I’m loving it.
I also love your videos and all of the great info you provide for everyone just starting out in the trade.
I have a pretty simple question that will help me a lot when servicing clients. How can I tell hydrophobic from a hydrophilic glass on residential windows? Do I need to hit them with water diets and observe the way it reacts? Or can I tell some other way before I even bring out my whole set up.
Thanks I’m advance for the answer and shared knowledge 🤙🏼
Hydrophobic glass the water beads up on the glass, Hydrophilic the water sheets off the glass, almost looks like syrup
Hey Steve! Enjoy all the videos! What do you do if you have water stains on a 2-3 storey home using a wfp?
Thanks!
Nice job on breaking down the basics. I have a question about pumps. In the future I'd like to buy my own multistage system and would like to have the option of a separate pump when needed. Is the pump added between the spigot and water inlet of the machine OR between the system outlet and pole? I feel like I know the answer (between the water spigot and machine inlet) but I don't want to assume and make a mistake somehow.
I am always concerned that I have not scrubbed the glass enough before rinsing. Can you tell us your method? Thank you.
How to connect poles for longer reach........is there a female Acme thread to hose thread coupler?
for certain pole there is extensions, The Xero destroyer is the longest water fed pole that can go up to 90' if needed windowcleaner.com/products/xero-destroyer-water-fed-pole?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
Nice vid mate I like to keep my water on 000 just so I know its going to be perfect 👌
That’s awesome man! Thank you for the great advice!
Thanks Steve, awesome video. I am here in The Bahamas,I have a pole,but the small system I invested in didn't work for me,I would like for you to point me in the direction of a good start off system
Hey, for Bahamas I’ve always sold multi stage RODI systems such as this one
windowcleaner.com/products/xero-pure-max?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
I’ve just added window cleaning to my pressure washing business, I’ve purchased the water fed pole and the DI tank as well so my question is how would I advertise for the service, through packages only or stand alone service or both ? I just want to know your opinion on it. I appreciate your content it’s awesome!
I own a house cleaning business and I sell it as a separate service because it is. Otherwise you will be taken advantage of trust me you will its separate end of story. Lol been down that road!
Sure ! What does the future hold concerning wfps what are the innovations, enhancements we can all imagine and work on ?
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Nice video Steveo! I have trouble getting what I feel is proper pressure to run my over the top rinse bar. What’s the minimum psi in your opinion that is needed to use a rinse bar instead of pencil jets?
Awesome video Steve 😎
What do you do when using a WFP on old windows where water goes in the seals and eventually leaves drip marks doesn't matter how much I rinse?
What I've found with my business, on windows with old frames where the water runs down a lot generally the only solution is to just use the traditional window cleaning method.
Do you know how much m2 can the water fed pole can cover per minute?
Do I need a water pump system or will just the pressure from the water source be enough to push through the DI tank systems. I currently have two large DI tank system(dual). Also with the understanding that some houses like on well water just won’t be strong at all, but just looking for this answer for 90% of the jobs will no pump system work
How long does it take to change a to fit system? I’ve done a year nearly
Hey y’all I just started a window washing business about a month ago and built up enough money to buy a water fed pole and tank. Can I please get some help on how to go about purchasing one and the basic information I should start looking into and researching.
Hey, feel free to send me an email, happy to go over all of it steveo@windowcleaningresource.com
Does the sun effect if windows will spot even with a ro?
Can I use well water for my pure water machine ?
Yes, if its a multi stage like the Xero pure that includes an RO membrane windowcleaner.com/products/xero-pure?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
How often and at what price do you have to replace stuff on your water fed system? I use Triple Crown Phaser One..It doesn’t use resin, used it for 2.5 years and it still runs below 10tds ... I feel that in maybe another year I may need to buy a new one..it cost $1000 for the system
I replace my carbon every 4-8 weeks which is around $10, replace resin 2-3 times a year which is around $65 each time, and then the RO is replaced every 2-4 years depending on frequency of use, RO will run $400. I would suggest the Xero Pure X2 for your next system windowcleaner.com/xero-pure-x2?pt=MY
How quick can you change the brush head? Are there little quick disconnects?
good video
Thanks
how much hose should be adequate for "most homes" so you don't run out of hose length, and have to count on a 2nd water connection?
200 ft of 3/8” hose, I would do this reel and hose windowcleaner.com/tucker-hand-carry-reel-150-foot?pt=MY and then if you get a system such as the Xero pure it’ll come with an extra 50’ of 3/8” hose
Hi do yourself a favour get a 100mter 8mm hose, it will give you so much range.....BETTER always to have more not less, also thinner hoses are lighter but are susceptible to cold, and also not the best regarding water flow at times, if thinner 6mm ok. Ive used 8mm for 15 years and with no problems here in the UK.
Cheers Andrew 😊🌈
Yo steveo quick question. How do you keep your pole warm in the winter?
😂
Can you clean the windows with the screens on for the water fed pole or do you have to take them all off
You have to remove the screen, the window can only become clean by agitating the dirt on the glass with the brush and then rinsing that dirty water off
Mr. Steve would you be interested in creating a window cleaning empire?
He already has, so in short.. No : )
Thanks
I’m looking to get a Ettore Utility Pole and your website has me select whether I want the pole tapered or threaded. I do know that the Ettore squeegee that I’m looking to get does not have threads. Does that mean I should select tapered? Or should I find a different pole.
Sorry that this is not related to water fed poles, but I just thought I’d ask. Just subscribed. Good job man.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I would suggest getting an unger opti loc pole then you will have both options in one tip and all squeegee handles fit it windowcleaner.com/unger-optiloc-extension-pole?pt=MY
Thanks for the info!
Hello, do you always measure your tds before you use water fed system? For example, when you have a new job and you don't know the value of tds in the water of that place, do you have to measure it to know if you will need a DI or a RO system?
Love your videos, big fan. You are like a bible for window cleaning :)
Keep up you are great
I dont usually unless it well water, if you have an RO/DI system you don't need to check the TDS at every job but is good to test every couple weeks just to make sure every thing is working correctly
Ventura, CA 93003 has 1600 ppm… that’s really bad……
Yea that is up there!
My area ranges from 260-300ppm straight from the spigot I don’t think the ro tank will be enough what else should I attach to it?
You just need a unit like the Xero Pure to get to 0 tds windowcleaner.com/xero-pure?pt=MY
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner appreciate the fast reply!
I have a question I live in Arizona and thinking of getting the Xero Pure X2, we have very high TDS around 600 - 700 some places. Will this be a good set up for me ..?
Yes, absolutely! Or you can go with the max, which is our new double RO system windowcleaner.com/xero-pure-revolution-max?pt=MY Feel free to give me a call (970)599-1437 and I can help you get setup!
Will just the WFP and water clean a window that has been made foggy by SH or a surfactant that's already been dried on just by scrubbing?
Yes it will, many softwashers use an RODI system to clean the windows after a soft wash, great add on. This is a perfect kit for 2-3 story commercial and 95% of homes windowcleaner.com/alex-s-revolution-kit?pt=MY
Love it,thanks buddy.I thought about adding on a xero system to my PW business and I was torn between this and the xero pure revolution package.You rock!
@@Jimmmer You're welcome, go with the Xero Pure Revolution Max, great flow and improved cart windowcleaner.com/xero-pure-revolution-max?pt=MY
What should I buy if I wanna start my window washing business ?
I would start with traditional tools like this package first
windowcleaner.com/products/steveos-employee-basic-starter-kit?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
With water fed can you clean the glass through the screens???
Nah, the glass needs agitation from the brush to loosen the dirt so the water can rinse it away
Hey Steve, what do you recommend I get? I clean several restaurants. What system do you recommend?
Unless it’s a huge 2 story restaurant I would suggest using traditional tools, really depends on where you live as far as the local TDS of the water, this is a great starter kit windowcleaner.com/ltwc-starter-wfp-kit?pt=MY
Do the brushes have a negative effect on tinted windows?
Nope no effect
I had a customer ask me if there is any risk with water getting in between double pane glass. Any risk of that?
No and if it’s getting between the panes that’s a defect with the window
Hi Steve. Really nice videos.
What would you suggest for a beginner that just want to start with WFP? I was thinking of the Unger hydropower to start with. Just to get the hang of it and doing some small jobs?
This is a perfect beginning setup and doesn’t brake the bank windowcleaner.com/ltwc-starter-wfp-kit?pt=MY
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner Ohh. If Luke recomends it it must be good. The problem is I´m from Sweden so the shipping will brake the bank :-)
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner Wish it was 40' instead of just 30'. Will the Xero universal 10-foot sections work with the Luke package?
Where can I get that sweatshirt?
How much $ per windows 🪟. Dose size matter. Is that in & out.
Your ultimate on wcr still what you would recommend?
To comfortably clean windows at 50 ft how long of a pole do I really need. I’m assuming I want to be able to be off the wall a little ways.
I’d normally just buy poles and see what happens but this water fed stuff is expensive.
I would purchase the 60' destroyer for working at 50' very rigid and easy to control at that height windowcleaner.com/xero-destroyer-water-fed-pole?pt=MY Its expensive but will be your best pole at that height
and for a reliable purification system to go that high I would suggest the X2 windowcleaner.com/xero-pure-x2?pt=MY
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner
Appreciate the advice bub
How do I determine TDS?
windowcleaner.com/tds/?pt=MY you can here
Thanks. We just got a 70' Max Output 110v Complete tucker pole system. Any resource links or quick input? We are newbies to wfp systems.
@@christineandadrianmurren6771 Nice, here is a technique playlist that can be helpful ua-cam.com/video/qp3q0rg9bdw/v-deo.html
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner Thanks so much, this will be very helpful!
@@christineandadrianmurren6771 You're welcome, best of luck!
Thinking about getting the unger 3 stage. Iive in an area where the tds is 212. I dont have many accounts. Just a few big houses here and there. And one business. A good investment just to start out with?
The resin will burn out relatively quickly with that TDS level but you could began with that and upgrade when it’s reasonable. I prefer RODI because you’ll never have TDS issues for the extra money I think it’s worth it.
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner Thank you for your help. Extremely helpful!
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner sorry to bother you, is there a email I can contact you at regarding the Xero. I actually had purchased a three-stage hunger but after looking at many videos I've decided to just return it and get the xero. But I have questions on how it works, it seems that its more Resin in the unger, than in xero. Buy how does the xero last longer? Sorry to brother u with this.
@@hmmm52r hey no problem, email address steveo@windowcleaningresource.com
I have 90 tds which system should i get?
For 90 Tds a DI TANK is perfect windowcleaner.com/products/xero-di-tank?sca_ref=3020242.k17l3JaEgS
How do you dry the windows
Air dry
ok so for freezing temps, I'm out in texas, it rarely gets below freezing except for overnight of course....if it gets below freezing overnight and i run the system in the morning where it has warmed up to 35-36F is there a possibility for freezing the RO? didnt know if the RO gets damaged from being in freezing temps without use or if the freezing comes from actually running the RO in freezing temps. thanks
In general do not leave your X2 outside overnight in your vehicle when it’s freezing temps. You never want the ROs to freeze
How do do you know what kind of windows panel you have? Hydrophobic or the the other one?
For me I can tell by how the water cascades on them, if you look at the broll when I talk about it that’s the difference between the two
@@SteveOthewindowcleaner gotcha! Thanks.
Hydrophobic = glass is scared of water = water becomes droplets of water so it makes rinsing glass difficult but still possible. Only able to rinse whatever spot youre on.
Hydrophilic = glass likes water. As Steveo said water cascades beautifully and easily rinses anything below the hose.
You can't reall tell by simply looking at a window unfortunately
@@Davez2023 thanks man! I have noticed those details when I use my wfs...I have also noticed that house tend to have both...
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Is washing windows really that complicated? Most of the guys I've talked to act like they're performing open heart surgery or something. Are they just being defensive because window cleaning is not really a recognized trade as compared to builder/electrician/plumber etc?
It's as complicated as you choose to make it. I've been cleaning windows for a few years now and I've got guys that prefer to keep it simple with hand washing and rags, and I've worked for guys that have this stuff down to a SCIENCE. pH levels, exact measurements on solutions, a squeegee for every window size imaginable and the most top-tier equipment you could ask for.
I think it's really up to preference, experience and how good you are naturally at this stuff. A guy with a squeegee and a rag that's real good at his job could knock out the same amount of windows as a guy with $5000 worth of equipment that's not so good at his job.
Moral of the story is: It's only complicated if you want it to be complicated. Like building computers, some people make their money off building crazy custom liquid cooled monsters while some people make their money off flipping used parts building budget systems. It's all preference.
@@klueless4205wrong. As with anything you need the right tools for the job. You want Home Depot tools then you are gonna get Home Depot results . Doesn’t need to be too complicated just know you get what you put in
Where do I get the water?
From a water source, typically the customers
I hate water fed. So many issues
Takes a little time to get used too, but once you do it opens up a whole new level to cleaning. Literally nothing you can not do.
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