✨rags✨ it's really quite sad. what happened to keke's music career. she tried for so many years but every label couldn't be bothered. i did hear that she's still making an album tho so maybe there's still hope. it's crazy to me how disney and nick lose so many chances by being so lazy. they could've easily have made loads more money and become way more solidified in the industry over all by attracting more artists, collabs etc. branching out is always the goal. it's weird that such huge companies can't figure shit out. anyway atleast max is thriving lol he ran away from nick and disney so fast. good for him and ari. smart choices. im still mad that the rags soundtrack isn't on spotify 🥴
@@littlelou050 This. I've always wondered why they never signed Max and Keke as its clear they recognized how talented both of them were, or else they wouldn't have cast them as the two main leads in the movie. Having said that, it definitely worked out for the better for Max though as I doubt he'd have seen the level of success he's seen recently had he signed to one of Nick's labels (and I wish the same could be said for Keke but nobody ever gave her a chance). Also, as far as I'm aware most of the soundtrack is on Spotify under Rags Cast though I might be wrong haha
big time rush is such a great group, i wish people didn’t see them as only a nickelodeon band because they were actually a real band. i saw them in august and it was honestly one of the best concerts i’ve ever been to! they deserve the same success as one direction and 5sos
I saw them in August too! Also, I agree, they deserve to see greater success than they have as they're really talented. That said, I think that them not distancing themselves from Nickelodeon in their reunion has been both a blessing and a curse in that on one hand it helped them retain some of their old/pre-existing fans and capitalize on the nostalgia associated with the show - which lead of course to them starting back up with a decent size audience which is good - but on the other hand seems to be a bit limiting in that (thus far) it seems to have inadvertently resulted in them not seeing as great of success as they could with their current music, with the band playing it safe and still being known to most as "that band from that show", which you'd think would be a good thing but isn't exactly when you consider that many people were somehow unaware that the band existed outside of the show when it was on, and/or were viewed as more of a novelty than anything to some I hope that makes sense as I'm not the best at explaining shit sometimes haha
from what ive seen they're alright. they could've definitely done better if they were promoted better and started promoting better now. i feel like it's mainly nostalgia keeping them going, you don't really hear anything about what they're doing now. just that people remember enjoying the hype during their run on nick. funny guys tho i like their vids and interviews. except for that one that's lowkey racist but idk his name lol
didnt 1D start off their career post x-factor by opening for BTR? like, the BTR boys are not to be messed with, they're legit talented (except i'll never get over James playing grown up Bart Jr in the Lifetime versions of the Dollanganger movies)
If Ariana Grande did sign with Nickelodeon, I don’t think her career would be where it is now to be honest. I think it was smart to sign with a label not associated with the network
BTR is a fascinating band to me. They were made to compete with the Jonas Brothers and we're based off the Monkees, with them originally hiring the band mates as actors instead of musicians. They had a successful show, lasting 4 seasons and a TV movie, and sold thousands to millions of copies of their music. I think the biggest mistake that Nick made with the band is not really advertising them as a band, but rather their show. As a kid, I had no idea that BTR was an actual band and not just a TV show. BTR has made a comeback now, and it's for the best. They're releasing new music under their own label (buying back the rights to all their original music) and had a huge tour last summer. They sold out Madison Square Garden, meaning they have such a determined and loyal fan base even 10 years later. I give hope to the guys and that they keep releasing new music and selling out tours. I believe we all need to live it Big Time once again.
I think it was just very confusing to the audience why Ariana grande didn’t sing more on the show, i remember my dad watching the show with me and even he asked why cat didn’t sing more it also just made everything worse when everyone was praising Ariana singing talent and she said “I think we all sing” like it just came off as jealousy, and she was a bigger star than Ariana at the time so it came off belittling as well…
@@tajsimms8976 if your talking about that clip with the all the female cast members of victorious, I'm pretty sure what Victoria said wasn't belittling. It just sounded like she was pointing out the fact that they ALL sing bc they're on a musical show, bc in the clip, each of them kept saying that "Daniella sings a lot" and "Liz sings a lot too", when it's all of them.
@@digitalzealot7026 I feel like we saw different clips because the girls were praising Ariana mostly, Victoria never praised Ariana she just said “I think we all sing”
@@tajsimms8976 Huh? They weren't "praising" her. Liz said that Ariana likes to sing all the time, then Daniella said that Liz sings all the time too. Then they all started talking when Victoria said "I think we all sing", and they all agreed bc victorious is a musical show. Liz and Ariana were already friends with each other, but Victoria and Daniella weren't really friends yet with each other or the others, so it was probably just hard to think of things to say. Ariana wasn't famous yet, so it'd be weird for Victoria to "belittle" her out of jealousy, especially since she was the main star of the show. And she doesn't even hold any ill will towards Ari anyway.
Let’s not forget Ariana Grande released Put Your Hearts Up. 🙂 With a video that was very similar to Selena’s Who Says video. Fortunately for her, she overcame it with The Way (a really GREAT song)!
17:10 they did Cymphonique sooooo dirty. “How To Rock” was a GREAT show with AMAZING music but they never put out an album for the show!!! Then the show got cancelled after 1 season! I just can’t with Nickelodeon
They really did do the show dirty. There was a lot of hype surrounding it, it seemed like a show that was created due to the success of victorious. I guess ratings didn’t do good and nick just dropped it but i actually really liked that show and thought it had a lot of potential even tho personally I think the show would’ve did better on Disney channel
@@tajsimms8976 "How To Rock" was a hit in the ratings. They just chose to cancel it because the network was "going into a different direction". The direction was into kiddier shows such as 'The Thundermans' & 'Nicky, Ricky Dicky & Dawn'.
Thank you for bringing up "UnFabulous". Everyone forgets about that show. To a five year old it was the bomb! Early shows and movies during the early 2000's is what paved the way for shows like Hannah Montana and Victorious.
I’m glad Ari didn’t sign with Nick cause they always over looked her🙄 and (I believe another record label missed their chance and looked over her but I forgot the name) so she got signed with RR in 2011 everything happens for a reason cause look at the queen now🥺
Nick never cared for Ariana even when My Everything was released, after Dangerous Woman they started noticing her success and they started uploading old scenes of Cat Valentine 😷 they just want money off of people! They don't care for the talent and art. And they did the same with Big Time Rush, now that they're independently back, suddenly out of nowhere Nick is uploading old content from their series
I absolutely agree that Nickelodeon fumbled the bag! I just wanted to point out how much potential Nickelodeon had for these actors/singers. Spectacular is a really good movie when it comes to music. Nolan Gerard Funk had such a great voice and good music in that movie. Break my heart, Everything can change, and your own way. (Fun Fact) Nolan is in Miranda Cosgrove Music Video for Stay My Baby. Rags is another great Nickelodeon movie when it comes to music. I will never get that one amazing song out of my head “Put your heart in it You can go the distance Me and You against the world” Max Schneider and Keke Palmer Killed It! Drake bell is another one that had so much potential for making more music for Nickelodeon. I remember always loving his music on Drake & Josh, iCarly, and Zoey 101. Down we fall, I found a way, Hollywood girl, Makes me happy (Drake & Josh) Leave it all to me (iCARLY) and High way to nowhere (Zoey 101) In my opinion If Nickelodeon was actually down to commit to making more music and signing them to Sony Labels with these actors, I think the Top actors that would of made more money for Nick when it comes to music would be Drake Bell, Nolan Gerard Funk, Ariana Grande, Elizabeth Gillies, Miranda Cosgrove, Max Schneider, and Keke Palmer. Who knows it would of probably beat Disney music *In another Universe*😭
Yo I saw Nolan Gerard Funk in Glee, he did a couple episodes as a Warbler. In one of the episodes he was in, they had him sing Whistle by Flo Rida of all songs
You forgot about the first Nickelodeon music entity, the short-lived show "Taina" from the early 2000s. Christina Vidal, the show's star, signed with MCA records, which Nickelodeon execs didn't like because it was a "conflict of interest" for them. I assume they didnt like not making any money off of her. Not only that, her lawyer threatened the network with a lawsuit because they were abusing the child labor laws with her. Both situations caused Nickelodeon not to renew the show for a season 3 despite good ratings. Ironically, Romeo guest starred on the last episode, and Nick then gave him his own show.
I literally get so happy when I find people who remember Tiana … no one seems to remember that show or the brothers Garcia. I was in my Latina bag with those shows. Nick really was ahead of the time when it came to diversity & actually making good content for kids.. especially kids of color & kids who didn’t grow up in cookie cutter environments.
BTR was to compete with the Jonas Brothers ' tv show which was based off The Monkees. BTR was of course way more similar to The Monkees. 1D was formed two years later on XFUK
I don’t think that Ariana necessarily wanted to be signed with Nickelodeon. Based on what we know about Dan Scheinder, if she had played more into his game she could’ve done a lot more. However, she comes from a family with money and connections, she just needed that initial platform that her role with Cat allowed her to have in order to fully break into the industry. Once she had that (and she arguably had the most popular character of the show), then she didn’t need to have an album with Nickelodeon. It always seemed as if she just did just enough to stay relevant, but not too much because she knew she had better chances to do the music she actually wanted to do.
To build off how you said Disney fumbled with Olivia, I would say they’re currently fumbling the bag with Sofia Carson and Michael Cimino. Sofia is one of the lead actresses from the Descendants franchise and released an album last year, yet despite having performed at Disney events in the past and being signed to Hollywood Records, they only let her perform covers, they never arranged for her to perform any of her original music on one of their stages. In Michael’s case he was the star of Love Victor and released his first song before the release of season 3 of the show. Both Sofia & Michael have decent fan followings and while the music their making isn’t chart-topping, I can’t shake this feeling that Disney in the 2000s and early 2010s would’ve gave both of them record deals by now
I think disney just has moved focus now. Kids aren’t really watching Disney channel now to see they’re favorite stars they use TikTok, Disney channel would promote the artist with music videos during commercials and stuff but now that disney focuses more on animation now. So having your kid’s favorite actors singing songs on the channel isn’t really profitable for Disney if your kids aren’t watching…Disney promotes their artist to promote the channel and their shows.
Regarding Disney fumbling the bag with Olivia Rodrigo... did they though? You could argue it with her HSM show stuff but her solo work? I don't think Disney would be keen on sticking their name and corporate machine behind Sour. That album kind of shatters the Disney pop star model with a sledgehammer. She isn't just sad about her breakup, she's petty, she's angry, she goes through a lot of emotions. One of her songs is literally about being 17 and hating it.
Or you can do a video on Reality star/social media stars that Failed at a pop career think Paris hilton, heidi montag, Brooke Hogan,Tila tequila,Daisy from Rock of love,K michelle, joan osborne, Jeffrey star, etc
It’s hard to sympathize with Jamie Lynn Spears, once zoey 101 ended, she was able to have a normal life compared to Britney. The only scandal she ever had was getting pregnant at 16, now she wants clout by writing a book about her sister. her entire career was based on nepotism. she was only able to get her own TV show because of Britney Spears.
I remember reading the "thank you notes" in one of Britney's albums and she wrote to Jamie something along the lines of "I love you and miss you, baby sis. I wish you would answer the phone when I call you." And that always stuck with me because I don't think Jamie Lynn liked Britney as much as Britney liked Jamie Lynn.
Just wanna say for you guys in the U.S. that Nickelodeon Latino also tried to make popstars like Shakira, there was a really successful series 'Grachi" about a witch and the main star Isabella Castillo is a good singer, she has talent, however Nickelodeon didn't promote her how it should've been, Nick and Warner Music made a deal to launch her as a popstar and if she was successful then they'd continue launching more stars from Nick Soap Operas. She released songs for her series Grachi just like Miranda and Victoria did with iCarly and Victorious, Grachi had 3 seasons with 3 albums, and her debut as a popstar was "Soñar No Cuesta Nada" (Dreaming Costs Nothing), when the album was released it charted on Latin Billboard and in Mexico, but just like in the U.S. with all these Nick stars, they never promoted it, never invested in it, Isabella wrote 9 out of the 11 songs, since she is from Cuba but has lived in Miami almost all her life, she wanted to debut just like Shakira did, in english and spanish, so originally she wanted to release a double album, with all the songs in both languages. She was pressured by Nickelodeon doing that album cause they just gave her like 4 months to plan it, record it and release everything. The album ended flopping and they sued her, they took advantage of her innocence on the music business, so she then had to pay everything and she had to film more soap operas on Telemundo to gain enough cash to pay them, then Warner Music forced a contract on her, they didn't let her release music for 8 years. now that that contract ended, she just made interviews this month saying that she is finally ready to release her new album. So this was the story of when Nickelodeon wanted her own Shakira but they just got her in legal trouble and ended making her lose 8 years of success..by the way Disney Latino around this time did the same, and just like in the U.S. with miley, selena, etc, her popstar achieved fame, hits and everything, her name's TINI and she was always compared with Isabella, both Grachi and Tini's soap opera which was 'Violetta' was always compared just like Victorious VS Shake it Up or idk, tini is still on hollywood records, while Isabella is maybe going for a new label or independently, Isabella had bops on her debut album as a popstar, i recommend Lagrimas and Pertenezco a Ti
This video unlocked the memory of me as a kid recording an episode of the naked brothers band to my family’s DVR and my mom thinking that it was a dirty movie lmfaooo
I actually liked Jeanette mccurdey’s music because it had this country feel and that is one of my favorite genres. I was always surprised that we did not see more from her.
Jennette stated that she didn't want to do music and was only forced into it by her management at the time. To me, it only seemed like she & Miranda were doing it because other teen stars were doing at the time, ala Miley, Selena & Demi.
@@KRSonbe in that case, it is a good thing we didn’t hear more from her. But if she did want to keep going, she had the potential to be a country artist.
Big Time Rush is a real boy band and I’m so glad that they got back together but they deserve more attention and have their music in the top billboard charts
Nickelodeon really said “Victoria is our golden girl!” And then cast her opposite Ariana and Liz, and they knew they fucked up. ALSO, Ariana featured her favorite main co-stars in videos. What has Victoria ever done to promote her friends?
emma did it by contract, she never wanted to be a popstar, like sara paxton, she jumped at the chance, most of the youthful actresses of those times sing jlaw emma stone etc they prepare themselves in both things to see what works for them
Max Schneider too!! Stage name MAX, was on how to rock and rags and never signed with Nickelodeon and now has so many successful albums under Sony but so many years after Nickelodeon
3:31 our lord and savior, lindsay lohan, signed with casablanca records/universal music group in 2004, her and ashley also have the same birthday coincidentally!
Jojo Siwa she is very young but when she gets older and more immature with her music i really do think that Jojo will be so successful and making up into the charts
disney is the bigger and better company. they know how to market and already have a bigger audience more willing to accept music. but they obviously also have flaws and no child star is being smart by staying signed to them. disney and nick are temporary. they're a starting point. it's always best to break away. thank god ariana wasn't locked away lmao as soon as she promoted seperately is when she came into her own.
Victoria Justices, Leon Thomas lll they’re still releasing music and they’re successful and i am happy for the both of them making more music and what I think about Victoria she would’ve been the most successful greatest biggest super star in the music industry just like Ariana Grande and I am happy that Ariana Grande is in the music industry I love Ari and I wish Victoria could do the same
he left nick and disney before he went the music route more. like ari. i believe he said that while he was signed he wasn't actually allowed to release solo stuff on his own which is why he started youtube. weird decision again, fumbled fumbled fumbled.
Naked Brothers Band was my jam when the show was airing, and I still listen to them now ❤️. I was trying to explain it to my BFF because she had no clue about it but it was kinda weird trying to explain that the person Alex crushed on was played by his irl cousin 😂.
elizabeth gillies erasure ! granted, still waiting for her full album but i'm a believer ok? (though i'm happy no one got stuck being signed to nickelodeon)
I wanted to add another rising star associated with Nickelodeon and that is Young Dylan! He has his own show with Nick called ‘Tyler Perry’s Young Dylan’! He’s also starting to release music but it’s not with Nickelodeon!
To be fair, no one knew who Ariana Grande was until after a couple of seasons of Victorious. I never liked Cat, so I never took note of her, neither do I fully like her music (don't get me wrong, she can sing! Her music is just not for me). At the time, Victoria Justice was more popular, on Nickelodeon, than Ariana Grande and Liz Gillies. You would only know who the latter two are if you were a Broadway fan. So it makes sense why the show revolved around Victoria Justice. And to be fair, she doesn't have that great of a career now, and Grande is super famous. Hindsight is 20/20 after all.
I might have missed this (i was working and listening/watching the video at the same time so please excuse me if i missed this!) but how could you not mention that Cymphonique Miller is Romeo Miller's sister?! Shame!! Lol :)
Ok so here are some ideas for future Videos you can use you can do a History of female collabs in pop music why we only get one every couple years and why they are far and few between or rank them
Miranda and Victoria don’t have the most powerful voices like Ariana but they sounded really good I’m pretty sure if nick promoted them more and let them have their own personal songs (not the shows ) they would of been way more successful look at Selena Gomez she surpassed Miley and Demi (have stronger vocals) but Is not all about that is about the powerful voice is about how there’s different voices with different ranges how boring to only have one type 😩
So… we should support queen Nickelodeon for being anti capitalist? Honestly they could’ve been more supportive of their artist. I’m curious what happened haha
Nickelodeon FUMBLED the bag by not signing Ariana but we really DODGED a bullet there😭
Hahaha fr, it would have probably been at least 3 albums filled with Put Your Hearts Up's
Her career would’ve never taken off😭
No they would’ve held her back. They did her a favor.
they FUMBLED SO HARD with Keke Palmer!!!! Side note, Rags was so good! 😭
✨rags✨
it's really quite sad. what happened to keke's music career. she tried for so many years but every label couldn't be bothered. i did hear that she's still making an album tho so maybe there's still hope. it's crazy to me how disney and nick lose so many chances by being so lazy. they could've easily have made loads more money and become way more solidified in the industry over all by attracting more artists, collabs etc. branching out is always the goal. it's weird that such huge companies can't figure shit out.
anyway atleast max is thriving lol he ran away from nick and disney so fast. good for him and ari. smart choices.
im still mad that the rags soundtrack isn't on spotify 🥴
@@littlelou050 This. I've always wondered why they never signed Max and Keke as its clear they recognized how talented both of them were, or else they wouldn't have cast them as the two main leads in the movie. Having said that, it definitely worked out for the better for Max though as I doubt he'd have seen the level of success he's seen recently had he signed to one of Nick's labels (and I wish the same could be said for Keke but nobody ever gave her a chance). Also, as far as I'm aware most of the soundtrack is on Spotify under Rags Cast though I might be wrong haha
big time rush is such a great group, i wish people didn’t see them as only a nickelodeon band because they were actually a real band. i saw them in august and it was honestly one of the best concerts i’ve ever been to! they deserve the same success as one direction and 5sos
I saw them in August too! Also, I agree, they deserve to see greater success than they have as they're really talented. That said, I think that them not distancing themselves from Nickelodeon in their reunion has been both a blessing and a curse in that on one hand it helped them retain some of their old/pre-existing fans and capitalize on the nostalgia associated with the show - which lead of course to them starting back up with a decent size audience which is good - but on the other hand seems to be a bit limiting in that (thus far) it seems to have inadvertently resulted in them not seeing as great of success as they could with their current music, with the band playing it safe and still being known to most as "that band from that show", which you'd think would be a good thing but isn't exactly when you consider that many people were somehow unaware that the band existed outside of the show when it was on, and/or were viewed as more of a novelty than anything to some
I hope that makes sense as I'm not the best at explaining shit sometimes haha
I saw them in July and it was such a fun concert!
from what ive seen they're alright. they could've definitely done better if they were promoted better and started promoting better now. i feel like it's mainly nostalgia keeping them going, you don't really hear anything about what they're doing now. just that people remember enjoying the hype during their run on nick. funny guys tho i like their vids and interviews. except for that one that's lowkey racist but idk his name lol
didnt 1D start off their career post x-factor by opening for BTR? like, the BTR boys are not to be messed with, they're legit talented (except i'll never get over James playing grown up Bart Jr in the Lifetime versions of the Dollanganger movies)
If Ariana Grande did sign with Nickelodeon, I don’t think her career would be where it is now to be honest. I think it was smart to sign with a label not associated with the network
BTR is a fascinating band to me. They were made to compete with the Jonas Brothers and we're based off the Monkees, with them originally hiring the band mates as actors instead of musicians. They had a successful show, lasting 4 seasons and a TV movie, and sold thousands to millions of copies of their music. I think the biggest mistake that Nick made with the band is not really advertising them as a band, but rather their show. As a kid, I had no idea that BTR was an actual band and not just a TV show.
BTR has made a comeback now, and it's for the best. They're releasing new music under their own label (buying back the rights to all their original music) and had a huge tour last summer. They sold out Madison Square Garden, meaning they have such a determined and loyal fan base even 10 years later. I give hope to the guys and that they keep releasing new music and selling out tours. I believe we all need to live it Big Time once again.
I hated the trend where people were undermining Victoria justice talent just because someone else has a “bigger” voice.
Yess 👏🏻
I think it was just very confusing to the audience why Ariana grande didn’t sing more on the show, i remember my dad watching the show with me and even he asked why cat didn’t sing more it also just made everything worse when everyone was praising Ariana singing talent and she said “I think we all sing” like it just came off as jealousy, and she was a bigger star than Ariana at the time so it came off belittling as well…
@@tajsimms8976 if your talking about that clip with the all the female cast members of victorious, I'm pretty sure what Victoria said wasn't belittling. It just sounded like she was pointing out the fact that they ALL sing bc they're on a musical show, bc in the clip, each of them kept saying that "Daniella sings a lot" and "Liz sings a lot too", when it's all of them.
@@digitalzealot7026 I feel like we saw different clips because the girls were praising Ariana mostly, Victoria never praised Ariana she just said “I think we all sing”
@@tajsimms8976 Huh? They weren't "praising" her. Liz said that Ariana likes to sing all the time, then Daniella said that Liz sings all the time too. Then they all started talking when Victoria said "I think we all sing", and they all agreed bc victorious is a musical show. Liz and Ariana were already friends with each other, but Victoria and Daniella weren't really friends yet with each other or the others, so it was probably just hard to think of things to say.
Ariana wasn't famous yet, so it'd be weird for Victoria to "belittle" her out of jealousy, especially since she was the main star of the show. And she doesn't even hold any ill will towards Ari anyway.
Let’s not forget Ariana Grande released Put Your Hearts Up. 🙂 With a video that was very similar to Selena’s Who Says video. Fortunately for her, she overcame it with The Way (a really GREAT song)!
pyhu is nothing like who says what😭
I loved Miranda Cosgrove’s music tbh.
I still listen to Kissin U, Dancing crazy, and daydream from time to time
I like Miranda Cosgrove too.
Miranda Cosgrove is underrated when it comes to music, it's genuinely really good
@@retrotaco11 objectively it's not, she has some nice songs but there's a reason why her music never got big
Miranda actually had some good music, she snapped on those songs
@@Xoxo0xx0 I think she wasn’t as passionate about it. Just sum to do lol
17:10 they did Cymphonique sooooo dirty. “How To Rock” was a GREAT show with AMAZING music but they never put out an album for the show!!! Then the show got cancelled after 1 season! I just can’t with Nickelodeon
They really did do the show dirty. There was a lot of hype surrounding it, it seemed like a show that was created due to the success of victorious. I guess ratings didn’t do good and nick just dropped it but i actually really liked that show and thought it had a lot of potential even tho personally I think the show would’ve did better on Disney channel
@@tajsimms8976 "How To Rock" was a hit in the ratings. They just chose to cancel it because the network was "going into a different direction". The direction was into kiddier shows such as 'The Thundermans' & 'Nicky, Ricky Dicky & Dawn'.
But they did give her a song with big time rush and that was about it.
Lol it was a nice little show and the music wasn't good at all. You're using your nostalgia shades lmao
@@KRSonbe The ratings were horrible, 1 million views would change the channel after Victorious aired and didn't stick to watch HTR
Thank you for bringing up "UnFabulous". Everyone forgets about that show. To a five year old it was the bomb! Early shows and movies during the early 2000's is what paved the way for shows like Hannah Montana and Victorious.
Yes!! I loved that show back then. I was too young to remember a lot of it but it’s definitely a core memory..
I know, I loved that show! Like Emma Robert's? Cmon! Sadly it was always overshadowed by all the other shows.
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I loved that show as a kid!
It is underrated, so much that it isn’t even on the paramount plus streaming service.
Miranda made sparks fly to this day and I still like her music.
I’m glad Ari didn’t sign with Nick cause they always over looked her🙄 and (I believe another record label missed their chance and looked over her but I forgot the name) so she got signed with RR in 2011 everything happens for a reason cause look at the queen now🥺
Nick never cared for Ariana even when My Everything was released, after Dangerous Woman they started noticing her success and they started uploading old scenes of Cat Valentine 😷 they just want money off of people! They don't care for the talent and art. And they did the same with Big Time Rush, now that they're independently back, suddenly out of nowhere Nick is uploading old content from their series
I absolutely agree that Nickelodeon fumbled the bag! I just wanted to point out how much potential Nickelodeon had for these actors/singers. Spectacular is a really good movie when it comes to music. Nolan Gerard Funk had such a great voice and good music in that movie. Break my heart, Everything can change, and your own way. (Fun Fact) Nolan is in Miranda Cosgrove Music Video for Stay My Baby. Rags is another great Nickelodeon movie when it comes to music. I will never get that one amazing song out of my head “Put your heart in it You can go the distance Me and You against the world” Max Schneider and Keke Palmer Killed It! Drake bell is another one that had so much potential for making more music for Nickelodeon. I remember always loving his music on Drake & Josh, iCarly, and Zoey 101. Down we fall, I found a way, Hollywood girl, Makes me happy (Drake & Josh) Leave it all to me (iCARLY) and High way to nowhere (Zoey 101) In my opinion If Nickelodeon was actually down to commit to making more music and signing them to Sony Labels with these actors, I think the Top actors that would of made more money for Nick when it comes to music would be Drake Bell, Nolan Gerard Funk, Ariana Grande, Elizabeth Gillies, Miranda Cosgrove, Max Schneider, and Keke Palmer. Who knows it would of probably beat Disney music *In another Universe*😭
Yo I saw Nolan Gerard Funk in Glee, he did a couple episodes as a Warbler. In one of the episodes he was in, they had him sing Whistle by Flo Rida of all songs
Damn finally someone else who knows that Rags exists, that movie was underrated as hell and they really dropped the ball not signing Max imo lmao
Keke started out on Disney . Her music videos were shown on Disney channel and she had that movie with Corbin Bleu.
I totally forgot about that movie! I think it was called Jump In. I always associate her with Rags as opposed to that for some reason haha
Max Schneider from How To Rock had a lot of music out . Saw him live too. He was fun . Think Fall Out Boy signed him to their label
You forgot about the first Nickelodeon music entity, the short-lived show "Taina" from the early 2000s. Christina Vidal, the show's star, signed with MCA records, which Nickelodeon execs didn't like because it was a "conflict of interest" for them. I assume they didnt like not making any money off of her. Not only that, her lawyer threatened the network with a lawsuit because they were abusing the child labor laws with her. Both situations caused Nickelodeon not to renew the show for a season 3 despite good ratings. Ironically, Romeo guest starred on the last episode, and Nick then gave him his own show.
I LOVED that show. I had the soundtrack. Carnival and I Represent were my faves.
Hello Tiana lol the OG tiaina
I literally get so happy when I find people who remember Tiana … no one seems to remember that show or the brothers Garcia. I was in my Latina bag with those shows. Nick really was ahead of the time when it came to diversity & actually making good content for kids.. especially kids of color & kids who didn’t grow up in cookie cutter environments.
BTR was to compete with the Jonas Brothers ' tv show which was based off The Monkees. BTR was of course way more similar to The Monkees. 1D was formed two years later on XFUK
I don’t think that Ariana necessarily wanted to be signed with Nickelodeon. Based on what we know about Dan Scheinder, if she had played more into his game she could’ve done a lot more. However, she comes from a family with money and connections, she just needed that initial platform that her role with Cat allowed her to have in order to fully break into the industry. Once she had that (and she arguably had the most popular character of the show), then she didn’t need to have an album with Nickelodeon.
It always seemed as if she just did just enough to stay relevant, but not too much because she knew she had better chances to do the music she actually wanted to do.
I saw Miranda in concert twice She doesn't have the greatest voice but she was fun . She seems like such a great person from what I've heard .
To build off how you said Disney fumbled with Olivia, I would say they’re currently fumbling the bag with Sofia Carson and Michael Cimino. Sofia is one of the lead actresses from the Descendants franchise and released an album last year, yet despite having performed at Disney events in the past and being signed to Hollywood Records, they only let her perform covers, they never arranged for her to perform any of her original music on one of their stages. In Michael’s case he was the star of Love Victor and released his first song before the release of season 3 of the show. Both Sofia & Michael have decent fan followings and while the music their making isn’t chart-topping, I can’t shake this feeling that Disney in the 2000s and early 2010s would’ve gave both of them record deals by now
I think disney just has moved focus now. Kids aren’t really watching Disney channel now to see they’re favorite stars they use TikTok, Disney channel would promote the artist with music videos during commercials and stuff but now that disney focuses more on animation now. So having your kid’s favorite actors singing songs on the channel isn’t really profitable for Disney if your kids aren’t watching…Disney promotes their artist to promote the channel and their shows.
Yesss i love Sofia, she deserves much better. She's classy and i love her songs Hold on to Me and Sugar
Take a shot everytime he says "fumbling the bag" xD
Also I love your videos, keep up the good work!
Regarding Disney fumbling the bag with Olivia Rodrigo... did they though? You could argue it with her HSM show stuff but her solo work?
I don't think Disney would be keen on sticking their name and corporate machine behind Sour. That album kind of shatters the Disney pop star model with a sledgehammer. She isn't just sad about her breakup, she's petty, she's angry, she goes through a lot of emotions. One of her songs is literally about being 17 and hating it.
Interesting point, however, you could compare 7 things by Miley to Good 4 U, or Dont Forget by Demi to drivers license.
Disney would’ve eaten that up wdym 😂
VicTORIous had major bops, I’m sad cause most of them aren’t available on Apple Music in Brazil…
Or you can do a video on Reality star/social media stars that Failed at a pop career think Paris hilton, heidi montag, Brooke Hogan,Tila tequila,Daisy from Rock of love,K michelle, joan osborne, Jeffrey star, etc
Love this!
I appreciate Hugo giving credit to other creators. That’s rare. That needs to be a trend across social media. ❤
It’s hard to sympathize with Jamie Lynn Spears, once zoey 101 ended, she was able to have a normal life compared to Britney. The only scandal she ever had was getting pregnant at 16, now she wants clout by writing a book about her sister. her entire career was based on nepotism. she was only able to get her own TV show because of Britney Spears.
I remember reading the "thank you notes" in one of Britney's albums and she wrote to Jamie something along the lines of "I love you and miss you, baby sis. I wish you would answer the phone when I call you." And that always stuck with me because I don't think Jamie Lynn liked Britney as much as Britney liked Jamie Lynn.
@@jalapeno1119 wow, that’s just really sad.
She never lived a normal life. She got pregnant as a young teen and became a mother while the media stalked and made fun of her for it.
Just wanna say for you guys in the U.S. that Nickelodeon Latino also tried to make popstars like Shakira, there was a really successful series 'Grachi" about a witch and the main star Isabella Castillo is a good singer, she has talent, however Nickelodeon didn't promote her how it should've been, Nick and Warner Music made a deal to launch her as a popstar and if she was successful then they'd continue launching more stars from Nick Soap Operas. She released songs for her series Grachi just like Miranda and Victoria did with iCarly and Victorious, Grachi had 3 seasons with 3 albums, and her debut as a popstar was "Soñar No Cuesta Nada" (Dreaming Costs Nothing), when the album was released it charted on Latin Billboard and in Mexico, but just like in the U.S. with all these Nick stars, they never promoted it, never invested in it, Isabella wrote 9 out of the 11 songs, since she is from Cuba but has lived in Miami almost all her life, she wanted to debut just like Shakira did, in english and spanish, so originally she wanted to release a double album, with all the songs in both languages. She was pressured by Nickelodeon doing that album cause they just gave her like 4 months to plan it, record it and release everything. The album ended flopping and they sued her, they took advantage of her innocence on the music business, so she then had to pay everything and she had to film more soap operas on Telemundo to gain enough cash to pay them, then Warner Music forced a contract on her, they didn't let her release music for 8 years. now that that contract ended, she just made interviews this month saying that she is finally ready to release her new album.
So this was the story of when Nickelodeon wanted her own Shakira but they just got her in legal trouble and ended making her lose 8 years of success..by the way Disney Latino around this time did the same, and just like in the U.S. with miley, selena, etc, her popstar achieved fame, hits and everything, her name's TINI and she was always compared with Isabella, both Grachi and Tini's soap opera which was 'Violetta' was always compared just like Victorious VS Shake it Up or idk, tini is still on hollywood records, while Isabella is maybe going for a new label or independently, Isabella had bops on her debut album as a popstar, i recommend Lagrimas and Pertenezco a Ti
The fact that it took so long after Hannah Montana to come up with a concept like Big Time Rush is astounding to me.
This video unlocked the memory of me as a kid recording an episode of the naked brothers band to my family’s DVR and my mom thinking that it was a dirty movie lmfaooo
I used to be obsessed with Ariana yt videos back in the day and was so confused why she wasn't the lead 😭
I actually liked Jeanette mccurdey’s music because it had this country feel and that is one of my favorite genres.
I was always surprised that we did not see more from her.
Jennette stated that she didn't want to do music and was only forced into it by her management at the time. To me, it only seemed like she & Miranda were doing it because other teen stars were doing at the time, ala Miley, Selena & Demi.
@@KRSonbe in that case, it is a good thing we didn’t hear more from her.
But if she did want to keep going, she had the potential to be a country artist.
I totally imagine her collaborating with Taylor Swift, they are amazing and talented, Jeannette wrote the whole album
Big time rush and ariana grande were FAR from failure
I've really been enjoying your channel, thank you so much for all your work! 💞
Thank you!! I love making them so super glad you're enjoying them!
Great video Hugo, I grew up with all of these nickelodeon stars? How old are you?
Big Time Rush is a real boy band and I’m so glad that they got back together but they deserve more attention and have their music in the top billboard charts
Naked Brothers Band & BigTimeRush hold special places in my heart.. I still listen to some of the song .
You can do a Video on the Decline of Bubblegum pop music and when it started to decline into Dark and depressing
Nickelodeon really said “Victoria is our golden girl!” And then cast her opposite Ariana and Liz, and they knew they fucked up.
ALSO, Ariana featured her favorite main co-stars in videos. What has Victoria ever done to promote her friends?
Drake Bell is talented as hell. Saw him live twice . Such a shame on his downfall .
Big Time Rush was the greatest thing to happen to Nickelodeon and I listen to their music everyday and have gone to multiple concerts.
emma did it by contract, she never wanted to be a popstar, like sara paxton, she jumped at the chance, most of the youthful actresses of those times sing jlaw emma stone etc
they prepare themselves in both things to see what works for them
Max Schneider too!! Stage name MAX, was on how to rock and rags and never signed with Nickelodeon and now has so many successful albums under Sony but so many years after Nickelodeon
Keke did not want to make a deal with Nickelodeon because limits would be placed on her music.
I love your videos, thank you!!!
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Honestly I don’t think Miranda Cosgrove wanted to even do music. She was just doing what she was told to do. But who knows. 🤷🏽♂️
LOVE the content as always
3:31 our lord and savior, lindsay lohan, signed with casablanca records/universal music group in 2004, her and ashley also have the same birthday coincidentally!
Jojo Siwa she is very young but when she gets older and more immature with her music i really do think that Jojo will be so successful and making up into the charts
disney is the bigger and better company. they know how to market and already have a bigger audience more willing to accept music. but they obviously also have flaws and no child star is being smart by staying signed to them. disney and nick are temporary. they're a starting point. it's always best to break away. thank god ariana wasn't locked away lmao as soon as she promoted seperately is when she came into her own.
Victoria Justices, Leon Thomas lll they’re still releasing music and they’re successful and i am happy for the both of them making more music and what I think about Victoria she would’ve been the most successful greatest biggest super star in the music industry just like Ariana Grande and I am happy that Ariana Grande is in the music industry I love Ari and I wish Victoria could do the same
Naked brothers band was my fave and unfablous truely underrated shows
you did research you would have known about patrick cc's video before recording haha but i love your videos!
What about Max Schnieder from How To Rock?
he left nick and disney before he went the music route more. like ari. i believe he said that while he was signed he wasn't actually allowed to release solo stuff on his own which is why he started youtube. weird decision again, fumbled fumbled fumbled.
MOTHER IS BACK!!!!
Naked Brothers Band was my jam when the show was airing, and I still listen to them now ❤️. I was trying to explain it to my BFF because she had no clue about it but it was kinda weird trying to explain that the person Alex crushed on was played by his irl cousin 😂.
KEKE had her album way before Nick had started to pick her up , I've to remember watching some of her video's on Disney
elizabeth gillies erasure !
granted, still waiting for her full album but i'm a believer ok?
(though i'm happy no one got stuck being signed to nickelodeon)
I wanted to add another rising star associated with Nickelodeon and that is Young Dylan! He has his own show with Nick called ‘Tyler Perry’s Young Dylan’! He’s also starting to release music but it’s not with Nickelodeon!
To be fair, no one knew who Ariana Grande was until after a couple of seasons of Victorious. I never liked Cat, so I never took note of her, neither do I fully like her music (don't get me wrong, she can sing! Her music is just not for me). At the time, Victoria Justice was more popular, on Nickelodeon, than Ariana Grande and Liz Gillies. You would only know who the latter two are if you were a Broadway fan. So it makes sense why the show revolved around Victoria Justice. And to be fair, she doesn't have that great of a career now, and Grande is super famous. Hindsight is 20/20 after all.
Hugo, you’re so adorbs!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Unfabulous was GOOD TV, there’s no way to deny it.
I loved the soundtrack for Rags
bro big time rush was formed before 1d
Omg you are putting in the work with all these videos I’m impressed
ABOUT YOU NOW IS ONE OF MY FAV SONGS EVER
Love your content!!! 💜
See I gave you a Good idea and you listened that was a Good video
Hugo with his squid ink snow cone😂😂😂❤
How do you not have more subscribers? I love your videos sm lol
I might have missed this (i was working and listening/watching the video at the same time so please excuse me if i missed this!) but how could you not mention that Cymphonique Miller is Romeo Miller's sister?! Shame!! Lol :)
He did
4:13 I don't get it 😭😭 where's the potentially bad part?? Am I dumb??
“BGM” babe it’s BMG 😭😂
I love your videos !
BMG not BGM
I made a early 2000s babies playlist for 2000-2004 babies.
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Ok so here are some ideas for future Videos you can use you can do a History of female collabs in pop music why we only get one every couple years and why they are far and few between or rank them
Take a shot every time he says "fumbled the bag"
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Isn't there a new black girl on Nick with a bunch of music /merch ? She keeps popping up on fb
Miranda and Victoria don’t have the most powerful voices like Ariana but they sounded really good I’m pretty sure if nick promoted them more and let them have their own personal songs (not the shows ) they would of been way more successful look at Selena Gomez she surpassed Miley and Demi (have stronger vocals) but Is not all about that is about the powerful voice is about how there’s different voices with different ranges how boring to only have one type 😩
I gave you this idea
I mean Patrick CC kinda already did this video idea a year ago so nice one very original
Ok those are your options
SLAY FLOPS 😍
Ariana is the only good singer out of Nickelodeon
Jennete has a great voice
Not true. Keke Palmer, Cymphonique Miller & Victoria Justice are all good vocalists too.
(liz gillies)
So… we should support queen Nickelodeon for being anti capitalist? Honestly they could’ve been more supportive of their artist. I’m curious what happened haha
BGM
Disney channel still exists lmao
How are you not gonna bring up the fact that Cymphonique Miller is Lil Romeo's sister and Master P's daughter?!
ariii ❤