The clutch kit definitely makes a difference. Me and Ron Combs and Jeff Strickland bought our own kit and pieced it together for around 55.00 i believe it was. Our stock clutch engagement was around 2450 ish rpm. Now its 1850 ish. Much better. Stock setup if you were on asphalt and went wide open from dead stop , the clutch would upshift way to fast and within 50 feet power dropped off and rpms , no longer the case with the new setup.
Justin did you use the 1017 or 1021 spring in primary clutch ? Me and Jeff used the 1017 spring and Ron used the 1006 i believe but even the 1012 for me at high idle the secondary would slightly spin at idle which isnt good at all so i went to the 1017 which seems perfect. If the secondary spins at high idle and you put it in gear the trans dont like that lol. I went B3 on secondary is that what you did ? On weights we went 18 gram.
I know what you mean about the default high gear clutch engagement. After applying throttle, It tends to be "engine revs, revs, revs, GO!" There is no "'creep" mode in High Gear. This clutch kit helps to address that issue. Did you notice much change in Low Gear performance? 90% of my riding is in low, over rocks, and desert trails (southern Utah).
I didn't do much in low gear, but it definitely has a much smoother and much lower engagement on it, as well. I am gonna try to get it out and test it a little more and see what I can get top speed to.
White rabbit , it helps it in low gear also. Clutch Engagement rpm is the same for high or low. Lower engagement makes creeping ahead to load on trailer or anything much smoother.
Nice job on install of clutch kit. But I do have a question that no one seems to have answers to that I’ve asked so far. Figured it couldn’t hurt to ask you. Do you know or know someone that might know. Is the wiring harness on the 950 Sport is the same as the 2022 950 Ho Sport?
I do believe they are slightly different, but I’m not 100% sure. Best person to ask would be Blake from Real Talk Powersports. He’s hands on with all of these machine daily
It can. If you get a big spray of muddy water or something on it and it dries, if the sun is shining directly at it, it can be difficult to see out of. I just carry the Ceramic Detailer and Inferno to go from my MudTraxx.com lineup with me and some towels. It’s safe for polycarbonate and GREATLY reduces scratching from cleaning. Like by 98%. It’s AWESOME stuff.
@@JustinTheCreator Thanks for info if you go to my Facebook I put video on there of tearing it up in the water snow mud ice I'm super impressed with its performance before I put new tires on it
Thanks Justin... another good video...you and Blake are very helpful. I cant imagine not losing a little top end with the clutch change...Prob enabled more power which can steal from top end speed...but im sure its a good trade with these machines. I watched Blake do top speed on stock clutch at about 72 so with yours doing 69 might show the percentage loss... Several more things...first..can you tell if a belt change is doable without removing either or both primaries? and second is my suggestion...there are hinge adjustments on the doors to get the front door edges to line up better with the front trim...pretty easy and shouldnt be an issue on your door panels you added...I like clean lines...lol....just a heads up for you...
Yeah, I think the doors may have settled after riding a bit and definitely need adjusted 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you so much for watching! Blake and I definitely appreciate it! I still had a little more to give it, but I want to wait until I’m on a more flat road and the belt is warmer than it was. Lol. I’ve hit 74 on the speedometer on mine before, so interested to see what it will do in that same place with the change. A belt change I think would be doable if you had a long enough spreader bolt
@@JustinTheCreator TY ... i will add a longer bolt to my toolkit for that...it would be a real pain if you snap belt offroad and have to remove the clutch housings...
Justin,I just put 29.5 outlaw 2s and msa 14” wheels on my 950 sport. Think Main Street cycles stage 1 kit will do my good? I have it snorkeled and ran it through a mud hole up to dash in 4x4 and it seemed kinda sluggish.
Im sure if you and real talk put together a group ride "they will come". Riding in PA and WV very few Cfmoto in general. Even Hawk Pride is 11hr away but would be worth it for a group ride. Planning hatfield and mccoys this summer.
@@JustinTheCreator that’d be awesome to be able to change the belt without having to remove the clutches! I just bought a new 950 and it’s definitely easier to work around than the 2020 800 ex I had.
Can you measure that piece of round pipe that the square bar welds to with hole in it? I work in a fab shop and can make that compressor! Hopefully You have that compressor close by still
Honestly, I love the guys down at Main Street Cycle...lol. I enjoy supporting those that support me, and they are big supporters of me and of the channel! I’m the type who would rather spend a little more and support a small business rather than save a few bucks and support a corporation, but I fully understand saving money and getting the best bang for your buck! Also, they were super fast with shipping and i had it in like 2 days. Lol
@@JustinTheCreator thanks Justin. Great point. Since both you and Blake went with Airdam. I will do the same. Our riding as like you is mostly trail riding and atv parks. Thanks again for your time. Stay safe Sir.
Are you gonna get bigger tires? I just put 32s on mine. But it's because we're I live has mostly rocky trails. Otherwise them 27 are not bad at all. What was the clutch kit for? Better lower rip?
Hi Justin, Does the six mm bolt come with the tool kit? Is it special bolt?, Do you know if it possible to replace the belt using only the six mm bolt?
I actually got this one from my local dealer, but I did pick up another from Main Street. They are crazy busy some days and on central time, as well. I think it’s 8-5 and it does take a little bit sometimes to get ahold of them, but they have the ultima belt in stock. Like a lot of them. Lol
@@edclements5112 can definitely feel the difference immediately. Wayyy lower engagement and better power through the middle and upper end. Not sure about top speed, didn’t really have a good chance to test that
Yeah in wv top end ant as important as low and mid so id be fine with that. Hows the initial take off? Mines is nothing nothing all go. Very hard to creep onto a trailer or realy tight trails.
@@edclements5112 initial take off for mine was the same way...totally different with this setup. Smooth, super low rpm engagement. Can’t wait to get it on some trails and hills.
@@bodemayson1479 I put the 30” tires on my 950 and have not done the clutch kit And glad I didn’t. My 950 is handling the 30” tires very good, I am still running the Original clutch belt, and it really looks good..I think the secret of longer lasting clutch belts is learning how to accelerate taking off and knowing when to put it in four-wheel-drive in rough country and not let your belt get hot..If I went to the 32” tire I might of did the clutch kit..
How does it go clocked b3 with the stock tires? I don't care about top speed, I rarely ever touch 60 in my area. I plan on 30s after I wear the stock tires off. I'm looking to get a lower engagement and better lower end. Headed out to do the clutch this morning. Thanks
@@wickedmainah950 on stock tires it’s awesome. Better engagement, but still able to hit those top speeds. MUCH better lower end, too. My top speed and 0-60 video shows all of that!
@@JustinTheCreator I'm new in all this, so sorry if my question is stupid. But 6mm is the thread? Or the long? I just need know how ask for the screw in the store. Sorry again
I have yet to see Blake , Adam at airdam or anyone mention which way the Primary spring goes in. So on the new one from kit , make sure the end with numbers is towards u and the other end in first. Great video
Ron Combs is who told me that but after doing some research and asking Adam himself, he actually responded and said it doesn't matter. Clark Starr also confirmed that. I can see why Ron thought that though because looking at the spring we are using , the one end , the spring coils are closer together then the opposite side so it appears as if the spring would be more stiff at the one end vs the other end but thats not how it works lol
Replacement is almost the same. Remove the cover, screw in your 6mm bolt to spread the secondary clutch and then you should be able to take the belt right off. I’ll see if I can get a video done and up for you in the next few days :)
@@JustinTheCreator the 6mm bolt .. how it is work ?! Please make a video .. a-lot of customers wait to this video .. There will be a lot of views 😃 Thank you my friend @@JustinTheCreator
@@shokriaboud9632 I show it in this video, but I will try to get one made specific to belt replacement :) the bolt is just to spread the primary clutch apart, which allows you to take the belt off
I know this is an old video but I’m pretty sure you can get a job as a mechanic anywhere 😂 great video. No I feel more confident if I did it myself.
😂😂😂 thank you 💪🏼
Good to see it still hit 69mph even with the resistance of the windshield and the clutch kit
Yeah, not sure that’s the best thing on a new belt...but whatever🤷🏼♂️🤣
The clutch kit definitely makes a difference. Me and Ron Combs and Jeff Strickland bought our own kit and pieced it together for around 55.00 i believe it was. Our stock clutch engagement was around 2450 ish rpm. Now its 1850 ish. Much better.
Stock setup if you were on asphalt and went wide open from dead stop , the clutch would upshift way to fast and within 50 feet power dropped off and rpms , no longer the case with the new setup.
Nice!!! I noticed that to be the case with mine, as well!
Justin did you use the 1017 or 1021 spring in primary clutch ? Me and Jeff used the 1017 spring and Ron used the 1006 i believe but even the 1012 for me at high idle the secondary would slightly spin at idle which isnt good at all so i went to the 1017 which seems perfect. If the secondary spins at high idle and you put it in gear the trans dont like that lol.
I went B3 on secondary is that what you did ?
On weights we went 18 gram.
Wondering same thing so i can get an idea of what spring to get. B3 and 18 seems the going rate for those.
@@edclements5112 my understanding is the kit comes with the 1021 spring , i tried the 1012 and 1017 and the 1017 works best.
Hey William could you dm please
I know what you mean about the default high gear clutch engagement. After applying throttle, It tends to be "engine revs, revs, revs, GO!" There is no "'creep" mode in High Gear. This clutch kit helps to address that issue. Did you notice much change in Low Gear performance? 90% of my riding is in low, over rocks, and desert trails (southern Utah).
I didn't do much in low gear, but it definitely has a much smoother and much lower engagement on it, as well. I am gonna try to get it out and test it a little more and see what I can get top speed to.
White rabbit , it helps it in low gear also. Clutch Engagement rpm is the same for high or low. Lower engagement makes creeping ahead to load on trailer or anything much smoother.
Good job Justin!
Brother...y’all make that job look so easy! Lol
Good Job Justin
Thank you! 💪🏼🙏🏼
Nice job on install of clutch kit. But I do have a question that no one seems to have answers to that I’ve asked so far. Figured it couldn’t hurt to ask you. Do you know or know someone that might know. Is the wiring harness on the 950 Sport is the same as the 2022 950 Ho Sport?
I do believe they are slightly different, but I’m not 100% sure. Best person to ask would be Blake from Real Talk Powersports. He’s hands on with all of these machine daily
Yes they do how does your windshield seem to be on trails does it get dirty make things hard to see I'm trying to decide if I want one
It can. If you get a big spray of muddy water or something on it and it dries, if the sun is shining directly at it, it can be difficult to see out of. I just carry the Ceramic Detailer and Inferno to go from my MudTraxx.com lineup with me and some towels. It’s safe for polycarbonate and GREATLY reduces scratching from cleaning. Like by 98%. It’s AWESOME stuff.
@@JustinTheCreator Thanks for info if you go to my Facebook I put video on there of tearing it up in the water snow mud ice I'm super impressed with its performance before I put new tires on it
@@mntreehousemaster357 I will definitely check it out! Love seeing 950s tear it up!
Your washer was left out from the top. Where you moved it to b3
Uhhh....what?!! The ring clip? Or is there something else...bc nothing else came off...told you I didn’t know what I was doing! Lol
Look at the 924 mark??
@@JeremyWayne0544 I see it, right after that I do mention to not forget the ring clip...lol.
Also when you floor it you don't hit the red alarm on revs mine constantly does it
Nice thanks
Where did you get the 6mm long threaded bolt
Thanks Justin... another good video...you and Blake are very helpful. I cant imagine not losing a little top end with the clutch change...Prob enabled more power which can steal from top end speed...but im sure its a good trade with these machines. I watched Blake do top speed on stock clutch at about 72 so with yours doing 69 might show the percentage loss... Several more things...first..can you tell if a belt change is doable without removing either or both primaries? and second is my suggestion...there are hinge adjustments on the doors to get the front door edges to line up better with the front trim...pretty easy and shouldnt be an issue on your door panels you added...I like clean lines...lol....just a heads up for you...
Yeah, I think the doors may have settled after riding a bit and definitely need adjusted 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you so much for watching! Blake and I definitely appreciate it! I still had a little more to give it, but I want to wait until I’m on a more flat road and the belt is warmer than it was. Lol. I’ve hit 74 on the speedometer on mine before, so interested to see what it will do in that same place with the change. A belt change I think would be doable if you had a long enough spreader bolt
@@JustinTheCreator TY ... i will add a longer bolt to my toolkit for that...it would be a real pain if you snap belt offroad and have to remove the clutch housings...
@@steves3688 yes it would be! I’m doing the same! Lol
You Guys Talking About 60s and 70s mph i can't get mine to go over 55 😞
How do i get my primary clutch off if i dont got a belt. Belt completely came off
Justin,I just put 29.5 outlaw 2s and msa 14” wheels on my 950 sport. Think Main Street cycles stage 1 kit will do my good? I have it snorkeled and ran it through a mud hole up to dash in 4x4 and it seemed kinda sluggish.
Yes, Stage 1 would be just fine
Thanks
@@chadellison5875 you got it
Hey Justin don you happen to know the thread on the 6mm bolt and how long is it
If you do a ride at Hawk Pride offroad park, let me know when. I live 15min away and drive the 21 zforce 950 sport.
Will do for sure, Mike!
Im sure if you and real talk put together a group ride "they will come". Riding in PA and WV very few Cfmoto in general. Even Hawk Pride is 11hr away but would be worth it for a group ride. Planning hatfield and mccoys this summer.
@@edclements5112 we are definitely getting together! Ironing out dates and places as I type!
6mm bolt what thread pitch?
What impact gun was you using
How do you remove the inner primary clutch? If you could plz explain or send me to a video
where did you get your door fillers?
Think that one of the long cover screws will open the driven clutch up enough to change belt without having to remove the clutches or clutch nuts?
It has to be a 6mm bolt and at least 2in long...but if you have one, you can absolutely change the belt without removing anything
@@JustinTheCreator that’d be awesome to be able to change the belt without having to remove the clutches! I just bought a new 950 and it’s definitely easier to work around than the 2020 800 ex I had.
@@chadellison5875 MUCH easier! Lol
Were to get the clutch kit??
I got mine from Main Street Cycle
Can you measure that piece of round pipe that the square bar welds to with hole in it? I work in a fab shop and can make that compressor! Hopefully
You have that compressor close by still
hello I have a 950 sport I need to buy the complete cluth and belt kit where can I buy the complete kit thanks
Is this the stage 3 or 2 clutch kit?
This was the original MSC clutch kit. Stage 1
Why can't I find this clutch kit on their website 😲😲😲
Just shoot a text to their shop number and someone should get back to you!
I know they are still doing a lot of updates to the site
Justin. Question for you what made you purchase the Airdam clutches compared to the Dr. pulley sliders.
Honestly, I love the guys down at Main Street Cycle...lol. I enjoy supporting those that support me, and they are big supporters of me and of the channel! I’m the type who would rather spend a little more and support a small business rather than save a few bucks and support a corporation, but I fully understand saving money and getting the best bang for your buck! Also, they were super fast with shipping and i had it in like 2 days. Lol
@@JustinTheCreator thanks Justin. Price is not an issue just trying to see which one is best.
@@tonymic988 no problem! I’m sure they are all about the same. There’s only so many ways you can do weights and a spring. Lol
@@JustinTheCreator thanks Justin. Great point. Since both you and Blake went with Airdam. I will do the same. Our riding as like you is mostly trail riding and atv parks. Thanks again for your time. Stay safe Sir.
@@tonymic988 absolutely! You as well!
Are you gonna get bigger tires? I just put 32s on mine. But it's because we're I live has mostly rocky trails. Otherwise them 27 are not bad at all. What was the clutch kit for? Better lower rip?
Yes, I plan on getting a set of 30” tires, but clutch kit really does help with a much lower clutch engagement!
How do I get rid of that awful noise in the primary at idle??
Check your sliders
Turned out the bolt on the primary was not tight enough
Hi Justin,
Does the six mm bolt come with the tool kit? Is it special bolt?, Do you know if it possible to replace the belt using only the six mm bolt?
It does not come with the kit. I got one at my local ace hardware, just get the longest full thread you can get
Justin, who did you order the drive belt from? I can' t find it anywhere..
I can't get main street cycle to answer the phone.
I actually got this one from my local dealer, but I did pick up another from Main Street. They are crazy busy some days and on central time, as well. I think it’s 8-5 and it does take a little bit sometimes to get ahold of them, but they have the ultima belt in stock. Like a lot of them. Lol
Is this the same kit they are running with the 32 inch tires or it set up for stock tire size?
It’s the same as with the 32” tires...bigger tires are next!
Hows it that kit with the stock tires?
@@edclements5112 can definitely feel the difference immediately. Wayyy lower engagement and better power through the middle and upper end. Not sure about top speed, didn’t really have a good chance to test that
Yeah in wv top end ant as important as low and mid so id be fine with that. Hows the initial take off? Mines is nothing nothing all go. Very hard to creep onto a trailer or realy tight trails.
@@edclements5112 initial take off for mine was the same way...totally different with this setup. Smooth, super low rpm engagement. Can’t wait to get it on some trails and hills.
Hi
can you tell me the belt size,please?
I have a zforce 1000 sport r but I'm don't now the belt size
Please tell me
Nice work Justin! how many miles/hours on the machine did you do this work?
I don’t remember what my mileage was when I changed this...right now I have right at 1300 miles, I’ll have to check the hours.
And thank you :) I appreciate you watching!
Thinking 30" tires instead of 32" on my 950 , would you still recommend the clutch kit..?.
Thanks Justin for all you do to share information..
I absolutely would recommend it! That’s what I’m going up to...30s
And you are very welcome! Thank you for watching!
Instablaster.
@@bodemayson1479 I put the 30” tires on my 950 and have not done the clutch kit
And glad I didn’t. My 950 is handling the 30” tires very good, I am still running the
Original clutch belt, and it really looks good..I think the secret of longer lasting
clutch belts is learning how to accelerate taking off and knowing when to put it in four-wheel-drive in rough country and not let your belt get hot..If I went to the 32” tire I might of did the clutch kit..
Good job I have a zforce 800 I think clutch removal would be the same
You should checkout RedNeck Garage's page...he has a bunch of 800 stuff on his channel!
Here is a link to his channel: ua-cam.com/channels/RoGZnfbQwvfE11dSiYzf9g.html
@@Hometown6112 awesome :)
I put 28s on mine do I need clutch kit
Hey, Sylvester! Nope, you don’t need one....but man, they make a crazy difference
How many grams are the weights you used?
18 gram weights
@@JustinTheCreator awsome thanks . Got a spring coming too, had to order out of Canada but cheaper than the "kit"
How does it go clocked b3 with the stock tires? I don't care about top speed, I rarely ever touch 60 in my area. I plan on 30s after I wear the stock tires off. I'm looking to get a lower engagement and better lower end. Headed out to do the clutch this morning. Thanks
@@wickedmainah950 on stock tires it’s awesome. Better engagement, but still able to hit those top speeds. MUCH better lower end, too. My top speed and 0-60 video shows all of that!
@@wickedmainah950 this one ua-cam.com/video/5ihBoDZiO2A/v-deo.html
Why does it need clutch kit?
Larger tires, wanted lower engagement to stop the jerkiness of the clutch and more bottom end power
What size is the screw for loose the belt?
6mm
@@JustinTheCreator I'm new in all this, so sorry if my question is stupid. But 6mm is the thread? Or the long? I just need know how ask for the screw in the store. Sorry again
@@edcavls8994 6mm is thread, you want it to be fairly long. The longer the better.
About how much does a clutch kit cost?
I just ordered this from main st cycles. Is there a noticeable difference?
VERY noticeable!!
@@JustinTheCreator is it only on bottom end or where do you feel a performance gain ?
@@brocksaunders7058 overall, but most noticeable in the lower end
@@JustinTheCreator awesome thanks a lot
@@brocksaunders7058 you got it!
Snorkel kit next?
That’s what I’m thinkin’! 😏😏😏
@@JustinTheCreator right on. I'm going to try to buy a z950 this year. I like em, been watching all of Blake's videos on em and yours.
@@patrickclemmons2697 that’s awesome!!! You won’t regret it! Blake and I appreciate it!
I have yet to see Blake , Adam at airdam or anyone mention which way the Primary spring goes in. So on the new one from kit , make sure the end with numbers is towards u and the other end in first.
Great video
Thank you! I am not sure it matters, as it will have the same tension either way. I could be wrong, though
Ron Combs is who told me that but after doing some research and asking Adam himself, he actually responded and said it doesn't matter. Clark Starr also confirmed that. I can see why Ron thought that though because looking at the spring we are using , the one end , the spring coils are closer together then the opposite side so it appears as if the spring would be more stiff at the one end vs the other end but thats not how it works lol
@@BlettzaHrekleW Thanks for letting me know! That’s good information to have!
Hi,
we are need video drive belt replacement for zforce 1000/950 sport
Just a replacement belt without clutch kit
Please
Thank you
Replacement is almost the same. Remove the cover, screw in your 6mm bolt to spread the secondary clutch and then you should be able to take the belt right off. I’ll see if I can get a video done and up for you in the next few days :)
@@JustinTheCreator the 6mm bolt .. how it is work ?!
Please make a video .. a-lot of customers wait to this video .. There will be a lot of views 😃
Thank you my friend
@@JustinTheCreator
@@shokriaboud9632 I show it in this video, but I will try to get one made specific to belt replacement :) the bolt is just to spread the primary clutch apart, which allows you to take the belt off
@@JustinTheCreator thank you man .. we are waiting 😀😃
@@shokriaboud9632 no problem :)