Road Trip Revelation: Indian Pursuit Outshines Harley Touring Bikes

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  • @jeffreyross-doc8337
    @jeffreyross-doc8337 22 дні тому +1

    Ya...I live in Pueblo...and I can tell you that it does not matter what the season is, be prepared for ALL Seasons in one day...Raton Pass and Monument pass can be just NASTY at any time...But Southern Colorado heading west from I-25 is some of the best riding ANYWHERE. Good Vid.

    • @LongDistanceMotorcycleFans
      @LongDistanceMotorcycleFans 2 дні тому

      @@jeffreyross-doc8337 I live on Monument pass and you’re right, we get crazy weather all the time up here!

  • @VeteranBiker
    @VeteranBiker Рік тому +2

    Great video Dan! Glad you and Indian are back in the saddle!

  • @joedunne9492
    @joedunne9492 Рік тому +6

    Agree with everything you said about the Pursuit! I have a 2022 premium and love it!

    • @Smokeykroegs
      @Smokeykroegs Рік тому +1

      Nice. Do you have a heel shift level for it?

  • @KrakensGarageandAdventures
    @KrakensGarageandAdventures Рік тому +10

    I'm happy to see this video, Dan. Last I knew, Indian was ghosting you on collabs. I'm happy to see that they're reaching out to you. A solid review and what a trip. Well done.

  • @airtexaco
    @airtexaco Рік тому +2

    I came to Indian from HD a few years ago and haven't looked back. My Challenger is configured like the Pursuit having the hard lowers (with driving lights) and the tour pack. I will wear this bike out and then get a Pursuit. Just using all the points you mentioned. Thank you for the review, aside from the weather I am super jealous of a trip like this!

  • @bridgettemcconnell9034
    @bridgettemcconnell9034 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for always giving your best unbiased reviews. It is much appreciated.

  • @onlyhereonce7290
    @onlyhereonce7290 Рік тому +1

    Another solid video. Thanks for taking us along for the ride

  • @Peter-mcmcmc
    @Peter-mcmcmc Рік тому +2

    I echo what others have said about your objectivity, man. You have a real knack for being able to unabashedly walk that line while being fair to both American brands. Plus, you've got that street cred of owning a Softail.

  • @johnnydangerously7186
    @johnnydangerously7186 Рік тому +4

    When you said there was nothing you would change on the bike from oem, is exactly why I ride a 2019 Roadmaster. I paid over 31K for my bike but it needed nothing and still running perfect in 2023 and over 30k miles later.

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому +2

      Yeah it is really cool they give you pretty much everything you want from the factory.

  • @northerniltree
    @northerniltree Рік тому +3

    If you were on a Goldwing, the weather would have been sunny and warm with scattered rainbows all through the trip.

  • @RoadReality
    @RoadReality Рік тому +3

    Man, that was a FANTASTIC way to try out that bike! I'd love to go test ride an Indian, but there's no dealer that's close enough to me for my liking. [it seems like I always get the "problem vehicle", and having a dealer or reputable shop close by that can fix it is key for me] I like the looks and functionality of it, though.
    My only issue with your review is the idling - having owned my Street Glide Special for over 3 years now, I've done a lot of different riding on it - and if it's 40F out, I have no problem letting it idle while I use heated gear to warm up. If the engine gets warm enough, EITMS will kick on, and at that point, I'd probably want to get moving... but even an hour in 110F stop-and-go traffic didn't overheat the bike, so I doubt idling at 40F would.

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому +1

      That's pretty incredible, My Heritage has gotten so hot here in Phoenix that not only did EITMS kick in, but it also retarded it so much that it felt I was riding a moped until it got air moving over it again. I def could see in 40 degree temps the motor being able to idle for a while, but the point I was trying to make was that I could have been trapped under that overpass for MANY hours if the snow kept falling before someone got to me. I don't know if any air-cooled Harley would have been able to run heated gear that long without me being in serious trouble.

    • @RoadReality
      @RoadReality Рік тому

      @@GearsGadgets So, come to think of it, I DO have mid-frame deflectors and the rear cylinder fan, which can make a big difference I guess?
      And yeah, if you're sitting there for hours, that's a "start the bike and let it idle a little while, get the gear hot and then shut it off" situation!
      I'm glad you didn't have to wait long, either way.
      Oh, and also also, my 2016 Vaquero would COOK in the heat - AND it was liquid-cooled! That thing would creep way up in the temp gauge, scary stuff! According to my research, it wouldn't ACTUALLY overheat, but it got into the red area of the gauge with the stock tune, it was a known thing. Still cooked me more than my Harley ever has.

  • @WesJacobs33
    @WesJacobs33 Рік тому

    Great Honest Take on the Indian Pursuit. I ditched my Victory for a 2006 Honda Goldwing which I could afford and I'll never go back to a Batwing Fairing.

  • @cbrippee
    @cbrippee Рік тому +7

    Last week we had our yearly poker run for Darke County, OH cancer. A new rider to this event had a beautiful 2022 Challenger Icon. He could not give out enought superlitives about his bike. He especially went on about what a great suspension it had and showed me his inverted front forks. Looking at them I told him I had the same on my bike and he looked baffled. Then I pointed to my 2014 Victory Cross Country 75 feet away. Then I told him of some Victory DNA that went into the Challenger/Pursuit lines. Speaking of Goldwings, a gentleman 5 miles down the road from me is the lead technician for a Honda Powersports dealership. What did he buy last summer. A beautiful black Indian Pursuit.

  • @BigSmittyRiding
    @BigSmittyRiding Рік тому +1

    Very good video and an honest opinion of the Pursuit.

  • @cjkirk30s
    @cjkirk30s Рік тому +3

    torn between what new touring bike to get. I kinda want to see what harley is about to show us before I do an Indian. I had a victory and loved it, was so sad to see them go. I do like the direction Indian is going though!

  • @InfamousCreep
    @InfamousCreep Рік тому +7

    Better suspension, better performance at lower price 😎👍

    • @cartrack730
      @cartrack730 Рік тому

      Don’t worry, Harley is trying to steal all of it.

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому

      I agree

    • @ragingninja4292
      @ragingninja4292 Рік тому +1

      Ugh, the base model is like 4k more than a base model roadglide. Yes it is better, but not for less money.

  • @Darkice77
    @Darkice77 3 місяці тому

    I have the dark blue one and i found a waterproof bag in almost the same color. I think its used for boating. But it works perfect for extra storage on top of the luggage rack. I love my Darkhorse pursuit. Best bike I've ever owned. A friend of mine has the Harley version with a much bigger engine. Mine is faster, and goes farther. Its a better touring option. So far the coldest I've ridden in is 40 degrees. With the heated seats and grips i was fine. You get almost no wind while riding.

  • @Delzona
    @Delzona Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed this video and your review of the Indian Pursuit. Since HD is introducing the redesigned touring line I hope you can get some test rides and do a comparison between the HD and Indian models. I certainly enjoy and value your opinion.

  • @RILLAMAN84
    @RILLAMAN84 Рік тому

    That’s actually my dream bike right there. Great review 👌🏽.

  • @Jack-b5o6r
    @Jack-b5o6r Рік тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @papap.8006
    @papap.8006 Рік тому +1

    Nice bike. But I am going to order a new CVO Tri Glide. New suspension new VVT engine new infotainment and all new lighting. Plus the 121 will be great to have.
    Just got back from Tucson after spending a couple weeks riding with my brother and his wife. The Mrs enjoyed the riding and the area we rode in as much as I did. Good video but you know it’s HD for me.
    Take care
    Papa&Luvy

  • @cartrack730
    @cartrack730 Рік тому +1

    We keep telling the Harley fans, but they don’t listen. Hung up on that logo and the noise it makes. I can tell you, the Challenger and Pursuit can make the same noise and it does it so much better. Never seen myself leaving Harley EVER! However the Indian made it so easy to walk away.

  • @Str33tglide_21
    @Str33tglide_21 Рік тому +1

    Excellent review I’m glad you made it safe ! I’m a Harley guy I currently owe a 2021 street glide and had a softail slim , by test riding a few Indians I noticed that Indian are becoming more comfortable bikes for long rides ! Specially in my opinion Harley should do a better job with their touring bikes suspension . After spending almost 30,000 on a bike now I have to get some better suspension

    • @nickricholetti754
      @nickricholetti754 Рік тому

      that 18” rear wheel on the 2020+ touring bikes surely doesn’t help ride quality. They should go back to the 16” rear

  • @harryhowell5644
    @harryhowell5644 Рік тому +1

    Road glide limited owner here. I test rode a persuit with my wife on back. While it is nice, i prefer the Harley Davidson. She didn't like the indian very much, and it was the premium version. It really comes down to preference. Riding two up or solo. Riding style and how much and far you like to go. Aftermarket is very limited for the indian as well. And not many places carry the basic oil change kits for indian
    I can get everything i need from Walmart or auto parts for the HD. 😮

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 Рік тому

    Nice review keep up the good work fella

  • @kelvinknaff9903
    @kelvinknaff9903 Рік тому +1

    I road thru snow in Colorado; a storm that spun off tornadoes Arkansas; winds greater 40+ mph South Dakota; 108 degrees Death Valley; THAT LIVING!!!!!! 😂😂😂

  • @saddle8bag
    @saddle8bag Рік тому +1

    That particular paint/finish is the best looking Indian with the new engine I've seen. Hell, the best looking touring bike I've seen period.
    I'm not a big fan of bikes with fixed lowers precisely because of the heat they tend to trap, vents open or not. Particularly getting caught in traffic.
    Crazy expensive, but what's not anymore? At least it comes ready to ride w/o a lot of mods needed as you say. You know if that top box can be popped off/on easily? HD requires an extra kit to do that.

  • @ejdtm
    @ejdtm Рік тому

    I rode from Amarillo to Las Vegas New Mexico on route 40. I’ll never take that road again. 30,40 mph cross wins the whole time and I was on a loaded up road glide.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Рік тому +1

    fellow~good upload~ 💪

  • @slayer8actual
    @slayer8actual 2 місяці тому

    5:24 This is why I have always hated full size windshields. I do not like looking through a dirty, bug catching, water screen. Then add snow to that as well? Hell no.
    I ride all year round regardless of weather and seasons - heat, rain, snow, monsoons, I don't care, and I have found over the years that windshields are good for about the first 50 feet of your trip, or first bug you splatter, whichever comes first, and only become worse with each mile. Yeah, I know you can clean them off but on a windshield while moving at interstate speeds, that is a little sketchy at best. Nothing beats being able to just reach up and wipe your face shield with your glove as bugs, rain or snow accumulates on it.
    The windshield was the first and so far, only thing I have changed on my Pursuit. I'm 5'10" so the stock windshield at the full stowed position brings the top right to eye level. So the line of sight is either through the glass or just above it, and everything I see on the road has that line going through it. Annoying as hell. I immediately ordered a the shortest windshield they offer so in the full stowed position it completely out of my line of sight as I look down the road.
    If I ever do feel the need to raise the windshield, which I haven't yet, I can still keep it low enough so that I do not have to look through the glass.

  • @bradlozano2571
    @bradlozano2571 Рік тому

    I notice you got a Heritage Classic there....I would love to take a 2K ride on that👍😎

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому

      I've done a 1500 mile trip on it, its great.

    • @bradlozano2571
      @bradlozano2571 Рік тому

      @@GearsGadgets Its a great Bike for 20K

  • @iRide66
    @iRide66 Рік тому

    I have a Pursuit on the way, and I also use the Hotwired heated gear. How (what path) did you run your Hotwired cable from the battery, and where did you decide to put the end (plugin)?

  • @Mr.FLOYDs
    @Mr.FLOYDs 9 місяців тому

    Harley does come with Twin cool and rear cylinder deactivations. Long as the temp stays below 290 it will keep cooling and idle and if it went above it will deactivate the rear cylinder.
    You can’t do that on the cheap below 15k Harley but not the high end ones that goes above 29k.

  • @pamlocke4438
    @pamlocke4438 Рік тому

    put rain x on your windshield and visor makes a big difference.

  • @kurtis3670
    @kurtis3670 Рік тому

    What time of year did you take the ride? I actually stayed in Las Vegas, NM at the beginning of this month. Was pretty chilly with some rain but was pretty nice riding the Enchanted Loop north of there.

  • @randymarks4011
    @randymarks4011 Рік тому

    I have an ancient polaris snowmobile, it still goes like stink, they build some good stuff.

  • @ridethepace6005
    @ridethepace6005 11 місяців тому

    I can do that on my liquid cooled Harley. Granted, it's just the heads, but I have an oil cooler fan and love jug fans so I have no worries regardless of the situation.

  • @MotoMengy
    @MotoMengy Рік тому +4

    If any bike could tempt me to trade in my Goldwing DCT it would be the Indian Pursuit. It's not quite tempting enough for me, but it does come close!

  • @billgraham4630
    @billgraham4630 3 місяці тому

    Please do a yamaha star venture tc test drive its always a Goldwing and what ever test the 2020 star venture it is an amazing bike just as capable and a top notch bad ass bike!

  • @508knucklehead
    @508knucklehead Рік тому

    Good video! Now time to call some ticket lawyers lol 🤙🏼

  • @rushgush
    @rushgush Рік тому +2

    honda goldwings are still amazing 😁

  • @2bad1
    @2bad1 Рік тому

    I’ve been riding a roadmaster for 5 years hands down the most comfortable bike I’ve ever rode minus the seat, be it goldwings Harley’s Hondas Yamahas whatever. The challenger/pursuit line is interesting. My question is what about the heat from the radiator. I had a Valkyrie that
    was so hot from the radiator that I couldn’t stand to ride it in august. I have totaled my roadmaster and am currently looking for my new bike and may look at the challenger/pursuit line again.

  • @Donfleebie1
    @Donfleebie1 Рік тому

    I’m leaning away from Harley for my next touring bike. I just rode a 2023 RGL, and it’s improvement is pretty substantial over my 2012FLHTK, but not at $36,000 otd. I believe the Indian Pursuit is also in the same price range, maybe a little higher. Now I’ve ridden a new Goldwing Tour DCT and dollar for dollar, at $31, 000 otd, there isn’t a much better Touring Bike imo. Now the BMW 1600Bagger comes in less than the Indian, and Harley, but as nice as the Indian is, the new 2024 Goldwing with the new 2000cc motor, adaptive CC, and a rear mounted camera, with lane assist warning, is going to be hard to beat if they can somehow keep the price below $33k, otd.

  • @lunchbox138four
    @lunchbox138four Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @robwinegar9033
    @robwinegar9033 Рік тому +2

    Harley has a LONG way to go to catch up with Indian. I predict HD will go to liquid cooled DOHC engines, adopt adjustable windscreens, and install premium suspension on all their touring bikes, for starters. They'll charge an exorbitant price and screw it up because that's what they do. The buyer will have to spend thousands fixing it like they did with the M8. Indian is perfectly poised to overtake the touring market from HD and Honda. HD hardliners like me are fed up with their overpriced dinosaurs. Indian is the obvious answer.

  • @craighanesworth
    @craighanesworth Рік тому

    Great video!!!! Go Bills!

  • @robertmeier6410
    @robertmeier6410 Рік тому +2

    to be fair, you can do that on a dual cooled Harley. A road glide ultra, tri-glide or street glide limited can idle for a long time without getting too hot. Totally agree with weight distribution comments and suspension things. But I wouldn't classify Indian as an "American V-twin" its a Canadian company. but great bike.

    • @BaggerJay
      @BaggerJay Рік тому +6

      Canadian company? Bombardier is Canadian. You do know Polaris is American right? It's built in spirit lake Iowa

    • @whitebeltchamp1
      @whitebeltchamp1 Рік тому +3

      I don't understand why people think it's a Canadian/ foreign company. This is the answer I got when I googled "is Polaris a Canadian or American company?".
      Polaris Proud
      We've been a proud American company since 1954, and US-based manufacturing and innovation are core to our vision and strategy. We have some of the best and brightest people in the world using their passion and knowhow to build right here in America.

    • @myronmosley2167
      @myronmosley2167 Рік тому

      @@whitebeltchamp1they’ll say anything to try and discredit anything that isn’t Harley. Objectivity doesn’t exist in the Harley fanboy world.

  • @davidsizemore2745
    @davidsizemore2745 Рік тому +1

    Have you road the Ultra Limited?

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому +1

      Yes

    • @davidsizemore2745
      @davidsizemore2745 Рік тому

      @@GearsGadgets Love my 2016 water cooled Ultra Limited. Looking at the Indian or the Goldwing for my next touring bike. Can't go wrong with either of those. Would probably lean more towards the Indian to stick with the American made bike.

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому +3

      @@davidsizemore2745 difference with the HD liquid cool vs Indian is that Harley only liquid cools the heads, cylinders are still air cooled so they can’t idle for duration without heat soaking. Indian is a fully liquid cooled motor so it can idle like a car for longer durations.

  • @TheDankh
    @TheDankh Рік тому

    I-40 wind between flagstaff, to Holbrook, through NM is HORRENDOUS. I live close to he 40, and I avoid that interstate at all costs unless I am going to another state.

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  Рік тому

      Is it always that bad?

    • @TheDankh
      @TheDankh Рік тому

      @@GearsGadgets always windy to some degree, I’d say at least 20-25mph gusts, minimum, 80% of the time. I’ve ridden thru it with 50mph gusts and it’s white knuckling the entire time.

  • @1962markstubson
    @1962markstubson Рік тому +1

    This is the trip that you do. Got the speeding ticket on the return trip, correct

  • @markman7
    @markman7 Рік тому +1

    I'd pay $52k for a $40k Indian Pursuit Elite over a 2023 CVO Road Glide, but since Honda makes the better DCT Wing for $30k, I had to pick that.

  • @InfamousCreep
    @InfamousCreep Рік тому +1

    Noice 😎👍

  • @fogit4668
    @fogit4668 9 місяців тому

    An Indian Scout rides better than my 2005 FLHCRI with Legend Air Shocks.

  • @kadimsilahtar
    @kadimsilahtar Рік тому +2

    Design, thats where Indian falls

    • @markman7
      @markman7 Рік тому +2

      Are you kidding? The Road Glide screen and gauge layout is terrible compared to the Challenger/Pursuit.

  • @michaelschmitzerle2587
    @michaelschmitzerle2587 5 місяців тому

    Harley can thank Indian for forcing then to make a better motorcycle.
    Not better engineered than Indian, just a better Harley.

  • @greghedrick1775
    @greghedrick1775 Рік тому

    Does Indian giver free four-wheeler with those

  • @RBlack-vm6wq
    @RBlack-vm6wq Рік тому

    Click Bait, if you had a real Harley touring bike it would fit. any limited or road glide.

  • @RedBeardJoe-1
    @RedBeardJoe-1 4 місяці тому

    Go Indian, drop wOKE rAINBOW hARLEY

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  4 місяці тому

      I love Indian and going with Indian is a solid choice. But if you are doing it because you too sensitive, it's absurd. I HATE this snowflake "Go woke, go broke" nonsense. It is just hypocritical rebranding fragile mindset that a decade ago was made fun of by anyone who was center, right of center, or far right. It's just a bunch of crybaby weak minded cancel culture nonsense. Motorcycles are about your fellow rider and the connection you have with each other, not corporate cancel culture because some marketing decision made you upset. Same thing goes for the overly sensitive bud light nonsense, everyone needs to get over themselves and get on with their lives. I am not saying you have agree or support a business that you disagree with, but to proudly embrace cancel culture because you are mad is unacceptable to me. Vote with your dollar, vote with your vote, everything else is just noise.

    • @RedBeardJoe-1
      @RedBeardJoe-1 4 місяці тому +1

      @@GearsGadgets It is not nonsense. It is sensibility to go against WRONG thing!
      It is not hate, it is an expression!

    • @GearsGadgets
      @GearsGadgets  4 місяці тому

      @@RedBeardJoe-1 that’s the same thing everyone said who was being made fun of in the mid-2010’s for being snowflakes but now because it’s deemed righteous by the people who used to make fun of “snowflake” expression, now it’s okay. I just don’t personally subscribe to that kind of hypocrisy.

  • @larry68hd11
    @larry68hd11 Рік тому

    Lol