Road Trip Revelation: Indian Pursuit Outshines Harley Touring Bikes
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2023
- Join me on an unforgettable journey as I embark on a thrilling 2,000 mile road trip from Phoenix to Boulder, Colorado. But this isn't just any ordinary road trip - I have a secret package to deliver to my brother, and along the way, I made a remarkable discovery that will revolutionize your perception of motorcycles.
Buckle up as I unveil the truth about the Indian Pursuit and their touring frame bikes, showcasing their undeniable superiority over the iconic Harley Davidson motorcycles. Witness firsthand as I push these machines to their limits, tackling winding roads, soaring mountain passes, and breathtaking landscapes.
Prepare to be amazed as I delve into the exhilarating performance, unmatched power, and precise handling of the Indian Pursuit. From smooth acceleration to effortless maneuverability, these machines redefine the standards of touring bikes. You'll be left in awe as I showcase their long-distance capabilities, making every mile a joyous adventure.
But that's not all. Throughout my journey, I share personal insights, anecdotes, and moments of self-discovery that will resonate with every motorcycle enthusiast. The bond between rider and machine is palpable as I uncover the intricate details of the Indian Pursuit, highlighting their innovative features, cutting-edge technology, and exceptional craftsmanship.
So, whether you're a seasoned rider, a passionate motorcycle aficionado, or simply curious about the world of touring bikes, this is the video you've been waiting for. Join me on this mesmerizing road trip and witness the Indian Pursuit's triumph over Harley Davidson motorcycles. Prepare to have your perceptions shattered, your wanderlust ignited, and your love for motorcycles taken to new heights.
Don't miss out on this groundbreaking adventure. Hit that play button, sit back, and let the road unravel before your eyes. Get ready to be captivated by the magic of the Indian Pursuit as we redefine the limits of motorcycle touring.
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I'm happy to see this video, Dan. Last I knew, Indian was ghosting you on collabs. I'm happy to see that they're reaching out to you. A solid review and what a trip. Well done.
Last week we had our yearly poker run for Darke County, OH cancer. A new rider to this event had a beautiful 2022 Challenger Icon. He could not give out enought superlitives about his bike. He especially went on about what a great suspension it had and showed me his inverted front forks. Looking at them I told him I had the same on my bike and he looked baffled. Then I pointed to my 2014 Victory Cross Country 75 feet away. Then I told him of some Victory DNA that went into the Challenger/Pursuit lines. Speaking of Goldwings, a gentleman 5 miles down the road from me is the lead technician for a Honda Powersports dealership. What did he buy last summer. A beautiful black Indian Pursuit.
I road thru snow in Colorado; a storm that spun off tornadoes Arkansas; winds greater 40+ mph South Dakota; 108 degrees Death Valley; THAT LIVING!!!!!! 😂😂😂
Agree with everything you said about the Pursuit! I have a 2022 premium and love it!
Nice. Do you have a heel shift level for it?
I came to Indian from HD a few years ago and haven't looked back. My Challenger is configured like the Pursuit having the hard lowers (with driving lights) and the tour pack. I will wear this bike out and then get a Pursuit. Just using all the points you mentioned. Thank you for the review, aside from the weather I am super jealous of a trip like this!
Thank you for always giving your best unbiased reviews. It is much appreciated.
Great video Dan! Glad you and Indian are back in the saddle!
I echo what others have said about your objectivity, man. You have a real knack for being able to unabashedly walk that line while being fair to both American brands. Plus, you've got that street cred of owning a Softail.
Thanks I appreciate that man!!!
Better suspension, better performance at lower price 😎👍
Don’t worry, Harley is trying to steal all of it.
I agree
Ugh, the base model is like 4k more than a base model roadglide. Yes it is better, but not for less money.
Another solid video. Thanks for taking us along for the ride
When you said there was nothing you would change on the bike from oem, is exactly why I ride a 2019 Roadmaster. I paid over 31K for my bike but it needed nothing and still running perfect in 2023 and over 30k miles later.
Yeah it is really cool they give you pretty much everything you want from the factory.
If you were on a Goldwing, the weather would have been sunny and warm with scattered rainbows all through the trip.
Great Honest Take on the Indian Pursuit. I ditched my Victory for a 2006 Honda Goldwing which I could afford and I'll never go back to a Batwing Fairing.
torn between what new touring bike to get. I kinda want to see what harley is about to show us before I do an Indian. I had a victory and loved it, was so sad to see them go. I do like the direction Indian is going though!
That’s actually my dream bike right there. Great review 👌🏽.
Man, that was a FANTASTIC way to try out that bike! I'd love to go test ride an Indian, but there's no dealer that's close enough to me for my liking. [it seems like I always get the "problem vehicle", and having a dealer or reputable shop close by that can fix it is key for me] I like the looks and functionality of it, though.
My only issue with your review is the idling - having owned my Street Glide Special for over 3 years now, I've done a lot of different riding on it - and if it's 40F out, I have no problem letting it idle while I use heated gear to warm up. If the engine gets warm enough, EITMS will kick on, and at that point, I'd probably want to get moving... but even an hour in 110F stop-and-go traffic didn't overheat the bike, so I doubt idling at 40F would.
That's pretty incredible, My Heritage has gotten so hot here in Phoenix that not only did EITMS kick in, but it also retarded it so much that it felt I was riding a moped until it got air moving over it again. I def could see in 40 degree temps the motor being able to idle for a while, but the point I was trying to make was that I could have been trapped under that overpass for MANY hours if the snow kept falling before someone got to me. I don't know if any air-cooled Harley would have been able to run heated gear that long without me being in serious trouble.
@@GearsGadgets So, come to think of it, I DO have mid-frame deflectors and the rear cylinder fan, which can make a big difference I guess?
And yeah, if you're sitting there for hours, that's a "start the bike and let it idle a little while, get the gear hot and then shut it off" situation!
I'm glad you didn't have to wait long, either way.
Oh, and also also, my 2016 Vaquero would COOK in the heat - AND it was liquid-cooled! That thing would creep way up in the temp gauge, scary stuff! According to my research, it wouldn't ACTUALLY overheat, but it got into the red area of the gauge with the stock tune, it was a known thing. Still cooked me more than my Harley ever has.
Nice review keep up the good work fella
Road glide limited owner here. I test rode a persuit with my wife on back. While it is nice, i prefer the Harley Davidson. She didn't like the indian very much, and it was the premium version. It really comes down to preference. Riding two up or solo. Riding style and how much and far you like to go. Aftermarket is very limited for the indian as well. And not many places carry the basic oil change kits for indian
I can get everything i need from Walmart or auto parts for the HD. 😮
Really enjoyed this video and your review of the Indian Pursuit. Since HD is introducing the redesigned touring line I hope you can get some test rides and do a comparison between the HD and Indian models. I certainly enjoy and value your opinion.
That particular paint/finish is the best looking Indian with the new engine I've seen. Hell, the best looking touring bike I've seen period.
I'm not a big fan of bikes with fixed lowers precisely because of the heat they tend to trap, vents open or not. Particularly getting caught in traffic.
Crazy expensive, but what's not anymore? At least it comes ready to ride w/o a lot of mods needed as you say. You know if that top box can be popped off/on easily? HD requires an extra kit to do that.
Very good video and an honest opinion of the Pursuit.
Thanks man!
We keep telling the Harley fans, but they don’t listen. Hung up on that logo and the noise it makes. I can tell you, the Challenger and Pursuit can make the same noise and it does it so much better. Never seen myself leaving Harley EVER! However the Indian made it so easy to walk away.
Excellent review I’m glad you made it safe ! I’m a Harley guy I currently owe a 2021 street glide and had a softail slim , by test riding a few Indians I noticed that Indian are becoming more comfortable bikes for long rides ! Specially in my opinion Harley should do a better job with their touring bikes suspension . After spending almost 30,000 on a bike now I have to get some better suspension
that 18” rear wheel on the 2020+ touring bikes surely doesn’t help ride quality. They should go back to the 16” rear
Nice bike. But I am going to order a new CVO Tri Glide. New suspension new VVT engine new infotainment and all new lighting. Plus the 121 will be great to have.
Just got back from Tucson after spending a couple weeks riding with my brother and his wife. The Mrs enjoyed the riding and the area we rode in as much as I did. Good video but you know it’s HD for me.
Take care
Papa&Luvy
Harley does come with Twin cool and rear cylinder deactivations. Long as the temp stays below 290 it will keep cooling and idle and if it went above it will deactivate the rear cylinder.
You can’t do that on the cheap below 15k Harley but not the high end ones that goes above 29k.
I can do that on my liquid cooled Harley. Granted, it's just the heads, but I have an oil cooler fan and love jug fans so I have no worries regardless of the situation.
What time of year did you take the ride? I actually stayed in Las Vegas, NM at the beginning of this month. Was pretty chilly with some rain but was pretty nice riding the Enchanted Loop north of there.
fellow~good upload~ 💪
Excellent video
Thanks
Good video! Now time to call some ticket lawyers lol 🤙🏼
Great video!!!! Go Bills!
I have a Pursuit on the way, and I also use the Hotwired heated gear. How (what path) did you run your Hotwired cable from the battery, and where did you decide to put the end (plugin)?
Nice
I rode from Amarillo to Las Vegas New Mexico on route 40. I’ll never take that road again. 30,40 mph cross wins the whole time and I was on a loaded up road glide.
BRUTAL!
An Indian Scout rides better than my 2005 FLHCRI with Legend Air Shocks.
put rain x on your windshield and visor makes a big difference.
Noice 😎👍
I’m leaning away from Harley for my next touring bike. I just rode a 2023 RGL, and it’s improvement is pretty substantial over my 2012FLHTK, but not at $36,000 otd. I believe the Indian Pursuit is also in the same price range, maybe a little higher. Now I’ve ridden a new Goldwing Tour DCT and dollar for dollar, at $31, 000 otd, there isn’t a much better Touring Bike imo. Now the BMW 1600Bagger comes in less than the Indian, and Harley, but as nice as the Indian is, the new 2024 Goldwing with the new 2000cc motor, adaptive CC, and a rear mounted camera, with lane assist warning, is going to be hard to beat if they can somehow keep the price below $33k, otd.
I have an ancient polaris snowmobile, it still goes like stink, they build some good stuff.
I'd pay $52k for a $40k Indian Pursuit Elite over a 2023 CVO Road Glide, but since Honda makes the better DCT Wing for $30k, I had to pick that.
If any bike could tempt me to trade in my Goldwing DCT it would be the Indian Pursuit. It's not quite tempting enough for me, but it does come close!
I’ve been riding a roadmaster for 5 years hands down the most comfortable bike I’ve ever rode minus the seat, be it goldwings Harley’s Hondas Yamahas whatever. The challenger/pursuit line is interesting. My question is what about the heat from the radiator. I had a Valkyrie that
was so hot from the radiator that I couldn’t stand to ride it in august. I have totaled my roadmaster and am currently looking for my new bike and may look at the challenger/pursuit line again.
I notice you got a Heritage Classic there....I would love to take a 2K ride on that👍😎
I've done a 1500 mile trip on it, its great.
@@GearsGadgets Its a great Bike for 20K
honda goldwings are still amazing 😁
I-40 wind between flagstaff, to Holbrook, through NM is HORRENDOUS. I live close to he 40, and I avoid that interstate at all costs unless I am going to another state.
Is it always that bad?
@@GearsGadgets always windy to some degree, I’d say at least 20-25mph gusts, minimum, 80% of the time. I’ve ridden thru it with 50mph gusts and it’s white knuckling the entire time.
to be fair, you can do that on a dual cooled Harley. A road glide ultra, tri-glide or street glide limited can idle for a long time without getting too hot. Totally agree with weight distribution comments and suspension things. But I wouldn't classify Indian as an "American V-twin" its a Canadian company. but great bike.
Canadian company? Bombardier is Canadian. You do know Polaris is American right? It's built in spirit lake Iowa
I don't understand why people think it's a Canadian/ foreign company. This is the answer I got when I googled "is Polaris a Canadian or American company?".
Polaris Proud
We've been a proud American company since 1954, and US-based manufacturing and innovation are core to our vision and strategy. We have some of the best and brightest people in the world using their passion and knowhow to build right here in America.
@@whitebeltchamp1they’ll say anything to try and discredit anything that isn’t Harley. Objectivity doesn’t exist in the Harley fanboy world.
Have you road the Ultra Limited?
Yes
@@GearsGadgets Love my 2016 water cooled Ultra Limited. Looking at the Indian or the Goldwing for my next touring bike. Can't go wrong with either of those. Would probably lean more towards the Indian to stick with the American made bike.
@@davidsizemore2745 difference with the HD liquid cool vs Indian is that Harley only liquid cools the heads, cylinders are still air cooled so they can’t idle for duration without heat soaking. Indian is a fully liquid cooled motor so it can idle like a car for longer durations.
This is the trip that you do. Got the speeding ticket on the return trip, correct
Yep
Design, thats where Indian falls
Are you kidding? The Road Glide screen and gauge layout is terrible compared to the Challenger/Pursuit.
Harley has a LONG way to go to catch up with Indian. I predict HD will go to liquid cooled DOHC engines, adopt adjustable windscreens, and install premium suspension on all their touring bikes, for starters. They'll charge an exorbitant price and screw it up because that's what they do. The buyer will have to spend thousands fixing it like they did with the M8. Indian is perfectly poised to overtake the touring market from HD and Honda. HD hardliners like me are fed up with their overpriced dinosaurs. Indian is the obvious answer.
Does Indian giver free four-wheeler with those
Lol
Click Bait, if you had a real Harley touring bike it would fit. any limited or road glide.
Haha