All of the concerns and attention to detail you mentioned are common sense and definitely reflect the overall outcome. It's what every reputable, honest and "expert" in their field should know. Unfortunately, these hard times that we are currently in, it's hard remembering that we are blessed that they even showed up for the job. Exhale and be merry. Love the new space.
Thank you. Trust me I know… It took me forever to be able to do this. And now with the rising costs of everything, its taking much longer than anticipated to do what I want to do inside the bldg.
@@HiddenCreekHomestead Ya we made the mistake and bought a fixer upper house 1 year ago for our daughter to rent to own from us. Its been horrible. The prices have literally doubled on alot of things in the last year.
Thank you for sharing this with us first time metal building customers....Obviously the erector/assemblers are key to getting a good end result. Very helpful!!!
Congratulations on your new shop. Communication is always a problem with builders even if they speak English but I found that "sign language" or drawing the problem tends to get through. Your seal for your garage door, if you can find some 1/4 inch thick 6 inch wide and the length of your door rubber strip and fold it over so the the 2 edges touch and you can make a P out of the rubber strip. The flat piece of the P would be screwed to the bottom of the roller using washers to spread the tension of the screws. At the high end will flatten out and seal tight while the low end of the door will deform enough to seal that end as well. The rubber being just 1/4 inch thick will need to be replaced every few years but if you used any thicker rubber it might not deform and seal nicely. Thanks for posting
Thank you! Yeah Ive got to figure something out soon, the other day I was working in there and was joined by two lizards having a disagreement that ran right under lol
The same crew also installed my building and I can confirm that all the same issues that you had, I also had and more. They had to come back to my property about 5 different times to do repairs from their hack work. I am still dealing with roof leaks to this day almost 2 years later from them over tightening the screws and also missing a stud all together then screwing next to it leaving an open hole. I have since started to re do all the roof screws with bigger screws and also using a sealant caulking. The company that showed up was also not the actual company I hired. They subbed the job out 3 times eventually landing me with those hacks. They must just get paid by the job and not the craftsmanship of their work
I'm about to sign a contract to build a 24x24 metal garage. I just finished working out the details with the company I chose to use. Thx for the video.
Hey great building! I’m looking to do a similar but with a 6” slab throughout. Did you have any issues with the slab cracking around the edges where they put the anchor bolts in?
I don’t get sloping the slab side ways for drainage. It’s inside. It shouldn’t get wet. If you’re going to wash inside then maybe slope towards the door would make sense.
I wonder if the communication barrier is designed into the project? Imagine how they would do if you weren't standing there checking up on them. They should use a driver with an adjustable clutch.
Man I feel for you man. I hope you got it all fixed. Those a very unacceptable things! You handled it better then I would have. Thank you very much for the Video!
Both of you sound like Karen’s there’s a way of approaching things and not shaming a human. If you can do it yourself than do it yourself respectfully ☺️ or better yet start your own business
When you have contractors do the work, they will make mistakes and some won’t tell you. They work fast and long hours so imperfections will be there. I plan to do the work myself because measure twice, cut once is a very important rule.
Just go get some non shrinking grout, It's a cement product Put a board on the outside of the right level and pour it in there it's Mixed up to liquid consistancy And the will self level, But it won't shrink when it dries.
Great video. We are considering a 20x40x12 garage in White with Black trim. I noticed you have a Black roof. Any issues with the black roof…heat inside? Does the insulation help much. Thanks
Hello what size legs did you go with and what size is that garage door? Also is there anything between the bottom rails and concrete? Nice building! Thanks
Looks nice. I can understand your frustrations. I'm sure I would've upset too. I'm not so much of a perfectionist, but I like stuff done well. All in all its gonna be great.
Congratulations on your new shop. I have watched all your videos and wondering how many acres you have, and did you get the other two acres you where things about?
Its actually been up for a little bit now. No leaks thankfully. I stood over them like a hawk and made sure they went “easy” with the impact driver when they were doing the roof.
@@HiddenCreekHomestead good for you! I finished 30x40 shop last fall ( almost winter) and I’ve had them back a couple of times to fix a few minor things. Looking forward to seeing you finish the inside. Are you getting an electrical sub panel installed?
The front door is racked. Most likely because the wall is racked. If they square up wall and then screw the sheathing on the wall should stay square. This will allow the door frame to be hung square.
We’re in a hot climate too (South Carolina). To be honest, it only insulates a little, mainly by preventing radiant heat on the metal siding from penetrating. There is about a 6-7 degree difference from outside temperatures. It does work excellent as a moisture/condensation barrier however. Im not really into spray foam and there aren’t too many other insulation options (that I like anyway)
So there are only like 3 actual manufacturers of these metal buildings and for some reason they all seem to be in North Carolina. So whatever “company” you order from, isn’t really a company at all, rather… its some guy sitting around in his slippers and PJ’s with a laptop that are acting as “brokers”. I just ordered from a local carport company, not sure which of the manufacturers they got it from. My new channel is all filmed INSIDE the shop… would love if you checked us out: @intheshoptv
Gotta say, I wouldn't have dared anchor the bottom rails to the concrete until after I had all the uprights attached and squared. Maybe these guys have just done this a bunch and are confident in their placement but that ends up being a huge deal if they're off an inch.
The concrete slab is square so as long as the bottom rails are placed on the edges, it all lines up. They do square the bottom rails before anchoring anyway which is what matters. As long as they are square, the rest of the building falls in line. Also, the metal framing is somewhat flexible which can allow for slight variances. I definitely hear ya, but thats typically how all these metal buildings are assembled
Hmmm. I'll be moving to SC soon myself, with plans for a metal garage. I hope I don't end up with the same problems you did. I wouldn't ask you to trash the folks you dealt with, but have you learned about other companies that you COULD recommend? Thanks.
@@intheshoptv Have you built a 26X40 garage? Im asking because most metal building companies I have spoken to are requiring 2" more than the length and width.
The company that puts these crews together should be conscious of making sure that at least somebody on the crew is fluent in English. I speak Spanish, so it wouldn't be an issue for me, but that is probably not gonna be the norm. It's gonna be better for everybody, if proper communication is possible.
(Replying from my new channel) - I completely agree. My wife is hispanic so we had her mom come by during portions of the build and she would walk with me and communicate whatever topics needed to be discussed. It would definitely be better for customers AND the crew/company of at least there was a lead or foreman that was anke to communicate in english.
Love how you articulate so well. Have learned allot on this and your electrical videos. I noticed you installed a mini split in the background in one of your other videos. How effective do you think the double bubble insulation has been for you? I'm in process of building a 30x60 shop and you have convinced me that I MUST have that installed. Just curious of how happy you are with that decision and how the mini split is performing. I'm in Arizona so I will probably add additional insulation. Would you agree double bubble is better than say a normal 6mil vapor barrier! Also, LOVE LOVE the new channel and the two vehicles for you and your wife. Anyway, any comments or "wish you would have done" issues related to your building would be GREATLY appreciated. DON'T stop the videos !!! The subscriptions will come I promise !!!! All the best. Jeff
In The Shop TV 1 second ago Thanks so much for the kind words and vote of confidence! The double bubble is bear minimum. My reasons for using it were pretty simple - mainly, a vapor barrier. Its humid here in the south and even a few degree difference from inside to outside temps will cause the interior of the building to sweat profusely, thus causing rust, premature failure, and the obvious moisture on the floors, your expensive projects and tools etc. As for insulation, its barely an R2 value. It DOES help but would be inadequate in climates that have extremes. Spray foam is obviously fantastic at insulating but I hate it for the expense, and it’s atrociously ugly to look at. The only way to do it (in my opinion) is put wall covering up, encapsulating the foam and then running surface electric (conduit etc). But man… talk about expense. My mini split along with a fan on the floor (eventually an industrial ceiling fan) keeps my shop cool and comfortable in this southern heat… not COLD but cool and comfortable. If I had spray foam… Id be able to hang meat in there lol. We’ll see how the heat pump does in the winter but our average cold temp is 55 so I don’t predict I’ll have any issues. Thanks for the great comment and for watching BOTH channels. Its greatly appreciated.
BTW, I can't seem to find how tall your building is. It looks to be 12 - 14'. I am building one also and want a vehicle lift inside so I need to have the ceiling high enough to make it useful.
@@intheshoptv Thanks. I really wanted to stick frame my own, but time is money and I think it would take me 4 months. 4 months of Florida 100 degree summer.
I completely get it. For me, I had to address is on the spot, as it was happening. I cant even imagine people that are not on-site for the duration of the build
@@HiddenCreekHomestead Thank you for responding. I am planning to use Versatube to build my barn which will be 36X40X16. I have seen enough of UA-cam videos of people having contractors who don't even speak English build their metal buildings. I think I am going to do it myself. That way I can do a lot better job with Quality Control. We just had our house put new sidings on replacing the old wood siding with concrete mix siding. The contractor came in with a crew of 3 who didn't speak English. Luckily, I learned how to speak Spanish. The quality of work was horrid. It seems that the companies hires just anybody from the street to do the work. I wonder if the majority crossed the southern border illegally.
@@2steelshells bldg itself was $24k with all the add ons (vertical siding, wainscoting, double bubble etc). Concrete was $3500 but I upgraded to 4000 psi which added $200. $27,700 total. With grading I was right at $30k
@@HiddenCreekHomestead I had a 30 X 40 metal building built with wood structure about 12 years ago on a slab that was already there. After some concrete work in front of the building and putting my own roof on because I wanted shingle, I had 30k in it so your price was real similar. I think most of these building are built to minimal code, but mine has held up well even though the metal caps around the door openings are still warped and I have never got around to fixing them!! The crappy door you got (with the popcorn like coating) is the same crappy door I got. It still works so I haven't replaced it either. Like you, I did replace the lockset right away.
There’s really only a small handful of manufacturers. Most of the companies are just brokers or a guy with a laptop. I decided to go with JP Carports in Greenwood SC since they have a brick and mortar location. Im not sure who they ordered the bldg from though.
I purchased through a local company because I wanted a brick and mortar business that I could go back to should I have issues. However, most of these companies are subcontractors and not manufacturers. Its my understanding that there are only a small handful of companies that manufacture these metal buildings so it very well may be an Eagle Building for all I know. But I cant say for sure 🤷🏻♂️
You seem like a patient dude. Being from southern ca i deal w paisas like this alllll the time. All i can say is that some Modelo's and food would have gone a long way!
Does that radiant barrier work worth a darn? Companies sure charge an arm and a leg for it, along with all the other upcharges. Now that it's been a while, what would you have done differently? Are you still happy with the money spent on the vertical siding? Did you get the standard 29-gauge or did you upgrade it?
(Replying from my other channel) It definitely helps with temps and its great at preventing condensation. Obviously its not comparable to true insulation. Things I would have done differently are - they have a rolled insulation just like this that is actually a fiberglass product. I would have went that route as its not much more money. Spray foam is SO expensive that it would take over a decade to recoup the out of pocket lay out. Not to mention its ugly which would now require even more expense of adding an interior wall covering. I also have a fully framed man door which means there is a 2 1/2” lip that you have to step over. Kind of a pain when moving heavy stuff should have went with a standard steel door, although I can and will change that easily in the future. Vertical siding… WORTH every penny! Dirt and debris slide right off whereas horizontal siding accumulates dirt moisture and mold on the top of each “rib”. Also the vertical orientation requires the building to be constructing with horizontal cross framing instead of just vertical truss frames found on horizontal sided structures. Building is WAY stronger. Please consider subscribing to my In the Shop TV channel. Thanks for watching!
As long as they stick to the quote they gave you with cost and time and there are not any extra holes any where, should be fine. Seems like there should be a QAQC issue. I wouldn't hire anyone that doesn't understand what I am saying. I have this issue when we go to my wife's village in the Philippines. I explain ad show my wife and then she shows and explains it to the guys and I watch to make sure they do it right.
$3500 - land clearing/grading $4000 - concrete (4000psi) $23,700 building If I would have done horizontal siding, no wainscoting, and no radiant barrier, the building would have been thousands cheaper.
Yes. They started with the bottom black wainscoting siding. There is flashing on top of that and then all the white panels (single custom cut/length) are installed.
Hope its not he company named after a bear..ive been talking with them..i ended up canceling because they couldnt seem to understand what sides i wanted access doors.
Good contractors like it because its free promotion of their awesome abilities. Shitty contractors claim stupid things like charging double because they don’t want anyone seeing their shitty work.
They do it all the time. This issue is that the company I used is in a very rural area where people dont have very much money. They hardly ever have to install two color siding (wainscoting) or the trim that comes with it. Not making excuses for them - they should know about it. But it was clear they typically only install metal siding horizontally with no insulation or wainscoting.
Stuff like this is frustrating. I'm glad you're on top of it. Hire American for future projects and at least if they are doing a shoddy job you can communicate it.
I went through a lot of researching trying to find a company that was local to me so that if I had any issues, I have a brick and mortar to go back to. As for what crew they send out, I had no control or knowledge over that.
This is an awesome building. It seems no matter what you have done today you have to be on constant vigil to make sure it is done right. Such a shame there is no pride in craftsmanship anymore. We have done numerous projects to our homes in Florida and on several occasions have made the contractors come out and redo the complete job and they were not small jobs. But that’s their problem not ours. My motto…do it right the first time or don’t do it at all. Can’t wait to see your man cave.
@@davidpeterson4122 I hear ya. I’d rather have built the whole thing myself, had I had the time. As an aside, my newer channel (intheshoptv) is almost exclusively filled with footage of the inside if you’re interested
When one spends $30,000 on a building, one tends to be critical. That said, it is not a customer’s responsibility to make things “easy” for a builder. It is the builders responsibility to build something correctly, as per plans. I hardly complained over the 3 day build, but there is an EASY way to avoid ANY customer complaints. Do it right and don’t take shortcuts and you’ll never here a peep out of me.
You would think they’d have better representation in the work force instead of a subcontractor from another country. At least one English speaking person for customer relations.
Had the same issue with my roof. I dealt with workmanship issues years after the fact. They worked hard, no question, but there was no "adult supervision."
I realize I am so not tech savvy. But I don't know what a pinned comment is. And with all due respect I cannot see why you wouldn't just say it in the video. How hard would that be if you already have the camera rolling? I just really think a lot of viewers would feel the same. Like the majority. No hate on you. I don't have the talent to make videos like you guys. But I do think you would get more views if the price was included in the video itself. I think any audience would agree. Live long and prosper.
@@TNCowboy2012 it means if you click on the comments, it’s literally the first one. I didn’t include the price because the video is not about what it cost to build. Its about the building itself. You can find many videos that specifically address the cost of metal buildings by searching for that phrase. Maybe I’ll make a video about all of the costs associated with this build one day.
I’ve worked along some that are fantastic and some that are dismal, like everyone else I suppose. My gripe is how can you send out a crew of workers that cant communicate with the customer at ALL?
@@HiddenCreekHomestead I believe as customers it wouldn’t hurt to ask who they’re sending. I usually ask for crew leader’s name and phone number so I can call and introduce myself before they make presence in my property, regardless of nationality.
I didn’t hire the crew, they’re subcontracted. Thanks for boosting the video’s performance with your comment, it provides more meals for me on your dime. Much appreciated!
Only hire people that clearly speak your language so you can communicate effectively. 🇺🇸👊🏻🇺🇸 local companies as well. A lot of these guys do shit jobs and travel all over changing names as they go.
My apologizes i should not assume. i miss understood when you said you had a hard time communicating. We have a roofing company in missouri that does the same called Allen roofing the owner and the people that come out to sell you. Then when the crew gets there not one speaks english. Very annoying
All of the concerns and attention to detail you mentioned are common sense and definitely reflect the overall outcome. It's what every reputable, honest and "expert" in their field should know. Unfortunately, these hard times that we are currently in, it's hard remembering that we are blessed that they even showed up for the job. Exhale and be merry. Love the new space.
Yes! And thanks, Im enjoying it more and more each day
My husband wants a shop like this so bad. I wish we could afford it. Congrats.
Thank you. Trust me I know… It took me forever to be able to do this. And now with the rising costs of everything, its taking much longer than anticipated to do what I want to do inside the bldg.
@@HiddenCreekHomestead Ya we made the mistake and bought a fixer upper house 1 year ago for our daughter to rent to own from us. Its been horrible. The prices have literally doubled on alot of things in the last year.
Thank you for sharing this with us first time metal building customers....Obviously the erector/assemblers are key to getting a good end result. Very helpful!!!
You’re welcome. Thank YOU for watching!
Credit to the workers for carrying everything! usually I see machinery being used theses guys are bad ass lol
Very interesting and happy that you showed the 'issues' also so that others can learn from it. Seán from Dingle, Ireland
Thanks for watching and for the comment Seán!
Please shows a video of the man cave and bounce space.
Check out my new channel for all the footage INSIDE the shop: youtube.com/@intheshoptv?si=7O4L7XoUQ7wdjo-c
Carport central installed my 30' x 30' metal building In one day and a half
How do you like it?
Congratulations on your new shop. Communication is always a problem with builders even if they speak English but I found that "sign language" or drawing the problem tends to get through. Your seal for your garage door, if you can find some 1/4 inch thick 6 inch wide and the length of your door rubber strip and fold it over so the the 2 edges touch and you can make a P out of the rubber strip. The flat piece of the P would be screwed to the bottom of the roller using washers to spread the tension of the screws. At the high end will flatten out and seal tight while the low end of the door will deform enough to seal that end as well. The rubber being just 1/4 inch thick will need to be replaced every few years but if you used any thicker rubber it might not deform and seal nicely. Thanks for posting
Thank you! Yeah Ive got to figure something out soon, the other day I was working in there and was joined by two lizards having a disagreement that ran right under lol
The same crew also installed my building and I can confirm that all the same issues that you had, I also had and more. They had to come back to my property about 5 different times to do repairs from their hack work. I am still dealing with roof leaks to this day almost 2 years later from them over tightening the screws and also missing a stud all together then screwing next to it leaving an open hole. I have since started to re do all the roof screws with bigger screws and also using a sealant caulking. The company that showed up was also not the actual company I hired. They subbed the job out 3 times eventually landing me with those hacks. They must just get paid by the job and not the craftsmanship of their work
That’s just terrible! You’re local I assume?
Who was the company?
I'm about to sign a contract to build a 24x24 metal garage. I just finished working out the details with the company I chose to use. Thx for the video.
Good luck on your build and thanks for watching
Hey great building! I’m looking to do a similar but with a 6” slab throughout. Did you have any issues with the slab cracking around the edges where they put the anchor bolts in?
I don’t get sloping the slab side ways for drainage. It’s inside. It shouldn’t get wet. If you’re going to wash inside then maybe slope towards the door would make sense.
Having lived in a flood prone area in the past, a slight pitch, should water intrusion ever occur, is not the worst thing in the world.
I wonder if the communication barrier is designed into the project?
Imagine how they would do if you weren't standing there checking up on them. They should use a driver with an adjustable clutch.
Man I feel for you man. I hope you got it all fixed. Those a very unacceptable things! You handled it better then I would have. Thank you very much for the Video!
You’re welcome, Im building in it everyday. Come check it out on my new channel.
Both of you sound like Karen’s there’s a way of approaching things and not shaming a human. If you can do it yourself than do it yourself respectfully ☺️ or better yet start your own business
It looks really good.❤️👍
Thank you!
They've got a contact? we are actually aiming to get some builds this November
i love the look of the shed - i bet you will have it all full soon!
Thanks Annie
Can I ask who put up your building.
When you have contractors do the work, they will make mistakes and some won’t tell you. They work fast and long hours so imperfections will be there. I plan to do the work myself because measure twice, cut once is a very important rule.
Thanks for watching
Nice building. 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks so much Patricia!
@@HiddenCreekHomestead you're welcome.
No brother they are not small issues they need to do the job correctly
Yeah, thankfully it all worked out in the end once I was able to communicate with them (got a relative to speak spanish)
They should have at least one bilingual worker on the job, not very good customer service
Just go get some non shrinking grout, It's a cement product Put a board on the outside of the right level and pour it in there it's Mixed up to liquid consistancy And the will self level, But it won't shrink when it dries.
Can you share costs? Concrete, building, install?
Like ur building tho.did u go with q2 ft or 14 ft wall height?..what was the upcharge for the bubble insulation/siding?
Great video. We are considering a 20x40x12 garage in White with Black trim. I noticed you have a Black roof. Any issues with the black roof…heat inside? Does the insulation help much. Thanks
It definitely helps some! I have a 36k Mr Cool that keeps things comfortable in there.
Congratulations! Looks great!!!
Thank you!!
Pole shed turned out great! We are in the process of building ours!
Thank you! Been waiting a lifetime for a proper shop! Good luck on yours; I’ll tune it to look out for yours!
Hello what size legs did you go with and what size is that garage door? Also is there anything between the bottom rails and concrete? Nice building! Thanks
12’ legs, 10x10 door, nothing under the bottom rail, but I did caulk both sides
Looks nice. I can understand your frustrations. I'm sure I would've upset too. I'm not so much of a perfectionist, but I like stuff done well. All in all its gonna be great.
Been enjoying it so far! Thanks so much for watching
Congratulations on your new shop. I have watched all your videos and wondering how many acres you have, and did you get the other two acres you where things about?
Thanks so much! Funny you should ask, I have a video planned that that addresses our unique land situation.
Can't seem to wake up I could go back to sleep in 3 min if I closed my eyes and relaxed.
You should see a doctor…
Looking good 👍. Before you pay the final bill, test the roof for leaks.
Its actually been up for a little bit now. No leaks thankfully. I stood over them like a hawk and made sure they went “easy” with the impact driver when they were doing the roof.
@@HiddenCreekHomestead good for you! I finished 30x40 shop last fall ( almost winter) and I’ve had them back a couple of times to fix a few minor things. Looking forward to seeing you finish the inside. Are you getting an electrical sub panel installed?
@@gregj2647 I just did it myself, video in editing now😊
The front door is racked. Most likely because the wall is racked. If they square up wall and then screw the sheathing on the wall should stay square. This will allow the door frame to be hung square.
You may have only watched a couple minutes of the video. I addressed the door situation at 4:52
how well does the bubble insulation work? im having it installed on the roof of my 30x40 building. im in more of a hot climate.
We’re in a hot climate too (South Carolina). To be honest, it only insulates a little, mainly by preventing radiant heat on the metal siding from penetrating. There is about a 6-7 degree difference from outside temperatures. It does work excellent as a moisture/condensation barrier however. Im not really into spray foam and there aren’t too many other insulation options (that I like anyway)
@@HiddenCreekHomestead They also offer drip stop felt on the underside for a lot less. Maybe a power fan would help with the condensation.
Awesome bro!!!
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing. Who did you buy the building from? Shopping for a similar size.
So there are only like 3 actual manufacturers of these metal buildings and for some reason they all seem to be in North Carolina. So whatever “company” you order from, isn’t really a company at all, rather… its some guy sitting around in his slippers and PJ’s with a laptop that are acting as “brokers”. I just ordered from a local carport company, not sure which of the manufacturers they got it from. My new channel is all filmed INSIDE the shop… would love if you checked us out: @intheshoptv
Thats my new channel I replied from^^
@@HiddenCreekHomestead Thank you for replying.
Now after my building installation i really need to cut more trees that are close to the building which is not good
I may need to do the same
Why didn’t the concrete contractor have to rectify the unlevel concrete?
@@mrusselli43 Because the check already cleared?
2 questions. Did you made the slab yourself. Does the city have to come an certify that you r building a slab??
Gotta say, I wouldn't have dared anchor the bottom rails to the concrete until after I had all the uprights attached and squared. Maybe these guys have just done this a bunch and are confident in their placement but that ends up being a huge deal if they're off an inch.
The concrete slab is square so as long as the bottom rails are placed on the edges, it all lines up. They do square the bottom rails before anchoring anyway which is what matters. As long as they are square, the rest of the building falls in line. Also, the metal framing is somewhat flexible which can allow for slight variances. I definitely hear ya, but thats typically how all these metal buildings are assembled
I haven’t finished the video yet. But damm they are moving!
Took em’ 3 days total
Hmmm. I'll be moving to SC soon myself, with plans for a metal garage. I hope I don't end up with the same problems you did. I wouldn't ask you to trash the folks you dealt with, but have you learned about other companies that you COULD recommend?
Thanks.
Good all the way round. Who supplied the building
Answered above
for a 26X40 garage, what are the demensions of the foundation? Length and width.
26x40
@@intheshoptv Have you built a 26X40 garage? Im asking because most metal building companies I have spoken to are requiring 2" more than the length and width.
@@roadtrekralph311 The shop above IS my shop. (This is my new channel, which is all videos from within that shop)
I think with a telehandler It can be done with one person
What company manufactured your building?
The company that puts these crews together should be conscious of making sure that at least somebody on the crew is fluent in English. I speak Spanish, so it wouldn't be an issue for me, but that is probably not gonna be the norm. It's gonna be better for everybody, if proper communication is possible.
(Replying from my new channel) - I completely agree. My wife is hispanic so we had her mom come by during portions of the build and she would walk with me and communicate whatever topics needed to be discussed. It would definitely be better for customers AND the crew/company of at least there was a lead or foreman that was anke to communicate in english.
I read all the comments and could not find the cost breakdown. Could you please repost or direct me to it. Thank you
I just pinned the comment containing the breakdown to the top👍
Love how you articulate so well. Have learned allot on this and your electrical videos. I noticed you installed a mini split in the background in one of your other videos. How effective do you think the double bubble insulation has been for you? I'm in process of building a 30x60 shop and you have convinced me that I MUST have that installed. Just curious of how happy you are with that decision and how the mini split is performing. I'm in Arizona so I will probably add additional insulation. Would you agree double bubble is better than say a normal 6mil vapor barrier! Also, LOVE LOVE the new channel and the two vehicles for you and your wife. Anyway, any comments or "wish you would have done" issues related to your building would be GREATLY appreciated.
DON'T stop the videos !!! The subscriptions will come I promise !!!! All the best. Jeff
In The Shop TV
1 second ago
Thanks so much for the kind words and vote of confidence!
The double bubble is bear minimum. My reasons for using it were pretty simple - mainly, a vapor barrier. Its humid here in the south and even a few degree difference from inside to outside temps will cause the interior of the building to sweat profusely, thus causing rust, premature failure, and the obvious moisture on the floors, your expensive projects and tools etc. As for insulation, its barely an R2 value. It DOES help but would be inadequate in climates that have extremes. Spray foam is obviously fantastic at insulating but I hate it for the expense, and it’s atrociously ugly to look at. The only way to do it (in my opinion) is put wall covering up, encapsulating the foam and then running surface electric (conduit etc). But man… talk about expense. My mini split along with a fan on the floor (eventually an industrial ceiling fan) keeps my shop cool and comfortable in this southern heat… not COLD but cool and comfortable. If I had spray foam… Id be able to hang meat in there lol. We’ll see how the heat pump does in the winter but our average cold temp is 55 so I don’t predict I’ll have any issues. Thanks for the great comment and for watching BOTH channels. Its greatly appreciated.
BTW, I can't seem to find how tall your building is. It looks to be 12 - 14'. I am building one also and want a vehicle lift inside so I need to have the ceiling high enough to make it useful.
12’ walls. Plenty high for a lift. Planning to add one eventually
I thought the insulation went on before the cross channels so that you have an air barrier
There’s only framing, and siding. The double bubble goes between the two.
@@intheshoptv Yes with horizontal walls but O the roof I thought it went between the channels and the frame so to have air space
What company manufactures the metal building kit?
See reply below
One tool that isn't seen in this video is a level. If the door was installed using a level, it wouldn't have been installed crooked.
I couldn’t imagine not being on site during the build
Where in South Carolina are you? We live in Waxhaw just over the NC boarder
We’re in Southern Greenville County!
we are seeking acreage in your area, NC or SC, even over the line into TN is possible. I'm thinking many distressed properties may come available soon
so how much was your building without the foundation?
There is a price breakdown in the comments below
What wall height did you go with? I'm looking into getting one about the same footprint size, but I can choose the height. Leaning towards 12'.
Im replying from my other channel which focuses on work only in the shop. The walls are 12’.
@@intheshoptv Thanks. I really wanted to stick frame my own, but time is money and I think it would take me 4 months. 4 months of Florida 100 degree summer.
@@floridanelson Yeah I looked into that too but it literally doubled the cost and I didn’t see the reward. Good luck!
If you don't mind me asking what did the project cost and what state?
Its broken down per item in the comments below.
Omg…. I’d been on the phone with the owner on the first issue!
I completely get it. For me, I had to address is on the spot, as it was happening. I cant even imagine people that are not on-site for the duration of the build
How tall was the side wall?
12’
@@HiddenCreekHomestead Thank you for responding. I am planning to use Versatube to build my barn which will be 36X40X16. I have seen enough of UA-cam videos of people having contractors who don't even speak English build their metal buildings. I think I am going to do it myself. That way I can do a lot better job with Quality Control. We just had our house put new sidings on replacing the old wood siding with concrete mix siding. The contractor came in with a crew of 3 who didn't speak English. Luckily, I learned how to speak Spanish. The quality of work was horrid. It seems that the companies hires just anybody from the street to do the work. I wonder if the majority crossed the southern border illegally.
What’s the peak height in this building?
About 16’. Check out INSIDE the shop here: @intheshoptv
I’m an inspector for a living they would hate me 😂 especially because I’m Hispanic.
@@fbanda20 😂 man, we needed you that week!!
Interested in building cost? Thanks.
Bldg itself? Or w/ concrete? Or with grading/site prep?
Itself + concrete.thanks
@@2steelshells bldg itself was $24k with all the add ons (vertical siding, wainscoting, double bubble etc). Concrete was $3500 but I upgraded to 4000 psi which added $200. $27,700 total. With grading I was right at $30k
@@HiddenCreekHomestead I had a 30 X 40 metal building built with wood structure about 12 years ago on a slab that was already there. After some concrete work in front of the building and putting my own roof on because I wanted shingle, I had 30k in it so your price was real similar. I think most of these building are built to minimal code, but mine has held up well even though the metal caps around the door openings are still warped and I have never got around to fixing them!! The crappy door you got (with the popcorn like coating) is the same crappy door I got. It still works so I haven't replaced it either. Like you, I did replace the lockset right away.
@@ripvanrevs thinking about installing a deadbolt on that crappy door lol
What's the wall height and final cost?
12’ walls. I just pinned the comment to the top with the cost breakdown
Great Video !
Who was the building manufacturer ?
There’s really only a small handful of manufacturers. Most of the companies are just brokers or a guy with a laptop. I decided to go with JP Carports in Greenwood SC since they have a brick and mortar location. Im not sure who they ordered the bldg from though.
is that an eagle metal building?
I purchased through a local company because I wanted a brick and mortar business that I could go back to should I have issues. However, most of these companies are subcontractors and not manufacturers. Its my understanding that there are only a small handful of companies that manufacture these metal buildings so it very well may be an Eagle Building for all I know. But I cant say for sure 🤷🏻♂️
@@intheshoptv All the trusses look the same across the various companies, too. The design only seems to vary with the span.
@@confidentlocal8600 there are slight differences but yeah… thats true
A friend of mine had one built then turned it to his full time home
I love being in there so much, I can see why.
What name brand?
Not sure. 🤷🏻♂️
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You seem like a patient dude. Being from southern ca i deal w paisas like this alllll the time. All i can say is that some Modelo's and food would have gone a long way!
Each one got a $40 tip and the whole crew got a case of Pacifico when they were finished.
Will they sell me the kit only and I put it together myself to save $20K I guess?
Well, there is VersaTube.
I don’t know if you’ll save quite THAT much but you can surely ask if they’ll sell just the materials
thanks@@HiddenCreekHomestead
thanks @@confidentlocal8600
Does that radiant barrier work worth a darn? Companies sure charge an arm and a leg for it, along with all the other upcharges.
Now that it's been a while, what would you have done differently? Are you still happy with the money spent on the vertical siding? Did you get the standard 29-gauge or did you upgrade it?
(Replying from my other channel) It definitely helps with temps and its great at preventing condensation. Obviously its not comparable to true insulation. Things I would have done differently are - they have a rolled insulation just like this that is actually a fiberglass product. I would have went that route as its not much more money. Spray foam is SO expensive that it would take over a decade to recoup the out of pocket lay out. Not to mention its ugly which would now require even more expense of adding an interior wall covering. I also have a fully framed man door which means there is a 2 1/2” lip that you have to step over. Kind of a pain when moving heavy stuff should have went with a standard steel door, although I can and will change that easily in the future. Vertical siding… WORTH every penny! Dirt and debris slide right off whereas horizontal siding accumulates dirt moisture and mold on the top of each “rib”. Also the vertical orientation requires the building to be constructing with horizontal cross framing instead of just vertical truss frames found on horizontal sided structures. Building is WAY stronger.
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@@intheshoptv This is very helpful, thank you!
@@confidentlocal8600 Thank you!
how much did the slab run you?
3800 with vapor barrier, rebar, and 4000 psi concrete
As long as they stick to the quote they gave you with cost and time and there are not any extra holes any where, should be fine. Seems like there should be a QAQC issue. I wouldn't hire anyone that doesn't understand what I am saying. I have this issue when we go to my wife's village in the Philippines. I explain ad show my wife and then she shows and explains it to the guys and I watch to make sure they do it right.
Unfortunately I didn’t know what crew they were sending until they were onsite. It all worked out in the end thankfully
Let me guess, you're an engineer?
I’ll give you three more guesses!
Were you by any chance a star in “Happy Feet?”
What’s the height?
12’ walls, 16’ @ the ridge
Use Google translate to communicate. Makes thing so much easier
There was definitely some Google translate being used lol
@@intheshoptv I leaned that trick last year when we were selling a car and had lots of people that spoke no English showing up 😳
What is your price break down???
$3500 - land clearing/grading
$4000 - concrete (4000psi)
$23,700 building
If I would have done horizontal siding, no wainscoting, and no radiant barrier, the building would have been thousands cheaper.
@@intheshoptv Wish I could get my concrete this cheap! I've been quoted $14.6k for 30x40
@@BALLERXD24 WOW! Where are you located?
It is land clearing and grading but yeah kinda crazy. Eastern Panhandle of WV.
@@BALLERXD24 seems high. Do you have lots of trees that need to be cleared or something?
did you go with a low ball price , the old saying you get what you pay for
No, mid price and everything was rectified before completion
Don’t you have to work from the bottom-up on siding to get a waterproof overlap?
Yes. They started with the bottom black wainscoting siding. There is flashing on top of that and then all the white panels (single custom cut/length) are installed.
These guys have no pride in there work. This is why I do everything my self.
This seems to be the issue with everything I hire out. That's why I'm still haven't bought my building.
About how much?
Hi, there is a full price breakdown in the comments below👇
Seems all these companies that sell aluminum buildings have their issues.
It does kind of seem that way
Buyers always have to finish 10% of the job. On there own
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Hope its not he company named after a bear..ive been talking with them..i ended up canceling because they couldnt seem to understand what sides i wanted access doors.
No it was a local carport company
I charge double when the owner is there with a camera.
Makes sense for people that are afraid of people seeing their work.
Good contractors like it because its free promotion of their awesome abilities. Shitty contractors claim stupid things like charging double because they don’t want anyone seeing their shitty work.
This is exactly what I’m afraid of. Seems like this crew doesn’t know much about building a metal building. Which company is this?
They do it all the time. This issue is that the company I used is in a very rural area where people dont have very much money. They hardly ever have to install two color siding (wainscoting) or the trim that comes with it. Not making excuses for them - they should know about it. But it was clear they typically only install metal siding horizontally with no insulation or wainscoting.
Sounds like you had some of the new migrants put your building up lol. O I'm sorry I mean dreamers
Stuff like this is frustrating. I'm glad you're on top of it. Hire American for future projects and at least if they are doing a shoddy job you can communicate it.
I went through a lot of researching trying to find a company that was local to me so that if I had any issues, I have a brick and mortar to go back to. As for what crew they send out, I had no control or knowledge over that.
The factory sends out the installers
💀 if you know anything about carports there’s about 1% American installers and all others are Hispanics & you know why lol
Those messicans taking over our jobs.
This is an awesome building. It seems no matter what you have done today you have to be on constant vigil to make sure it is done right. Such a shame there is no pride in craftsmanship anymore. We have done numerous projects to our homes in Florida and on several occasions have made the contractors come out and redo the complete job and they were not small jobs. But that’s their problem not ours. My motto…do it right the first time or don’t do it at all. Can’t wait to see your man cave.
Id rather accept my own mistakes than someone elses
(Replying from the newer channel) - I accept mistakes from everyone as all humans make them… as long as they’re corrected and we learn from them.
Right- I only say that from the perspective that I'd rather do it myself and be accountable to the result.
@@davidpeterson4122 I hear ya. I’d rather have built the whole thing myself, had I had the time. As an aside, my newer channel (intheshoptv) is almost exclusively filled with footage of the inside if you’re interested
It is not EZ for someone to work for someone keeps complaining a lot for any reason.
When one spends $30,000 on a building, one tends to be critical. That said, it is not a customer’s responsibility to make things “easy” for a builder. It is the builders responsibility to build something correctly, as per plans. I hardly complained over the 3 day build, but there is an EASY way to avoid ANY customer complaints. Do it right and don’t take shortcuts and you’ll never here a peep out of me.
Framing being out-of-square and doors sticking is not reasonable. I'm with @HiddenCreekHomestead on this one.
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Just a note , get rid of the music
Unfortunately footage without music statistically drives people away 🤷🏻♂️. Humans bro…
Hacks
Lazy workers take no pride or honor in their work. Unprofessional to say the least, glad you get it fixed the properly
Thank you
You would think they’d have better representation in the work force instead of a subcontractor from another country. At least one English speaking person for customer relations.
I do think there should be one representative per crew that can effectively communicate with the customer.
Had the same issue with my roof. I dealt with workmanship issues years after the fact. They worked hard, no question, but there was no "adult supervision."
Consider where these guys are from. The structures they build in their countries fall down. Literally. They consider half ass as quality.
this guy is one of the worst clients to have bc they don't let you work bc they think they know
I would have been left with all those mistakes if I didn’t say anything. Maybe thats ok with you but for 30k, I want things right.
Every person who clicked on this video did so because they wanted to know how much did it cost?
And they can find that info in the pinned comment at the top of the comments section.
I realize I am so not tech savvy. But I don't know what a pinned comment is. And with all due respect I cannot see why you wouldn't just say it in the video. How hard would that be if you already have the camera rolling? I just really think a lot of viewers would feel the same. Like the majority. No hate on you. I don't have the talent to make videos like you guys. But I do think you would get more views if the price was included in the video itself. I think any audience would agree. Live long and prosper.
@@TNCowboy2012 it means if you click on the comments, it’s literally the first one. I didn’t include the price because the video is not about what it cost to build. Its about the building itself. You can find many videos that specifically address the cost of metal buildings by searching for that phrase. Maybe I’ll make a video about all of the costs associated with this build one day.
There’s an overrating of Latin immigrant workers out there. Totally not the case, have seen their sloppiness up close a number of times.
I’ve worked along some that are fantastic and some that are dismal, like everyone else I suppose. My gripe is how can you send out a crew of workers that cant communicate with the customer at ALL?
@@HiddenCreekHomestead I believe as customers it wouldn’t hurt to ask who they’re sending. I usually ask for crew leader’s name and phone number so I can call and introduce myself before they make presence in my property, regardless of nationality.
@@chrisc5726 That’s not a bad idea
7:02 If you don’t know Spanish and you hired Spanish workers, that’s *your* fault. Not theirs. Study some while eating, you haven’t missed a meal.
I didn’t hire the crew, they’re subcontracted. Thanks for boosting the video’s performance with your comment, it provides more meals for me on your dime. Much appreciated!
Only hire people that clearly speak your language so you can communicate effectively. 🇺🇸👊🏻🇺🇸 local companies as well. A lot of these guys do shit jobs and travel all over changing names as they go.
It was a local company that spoke English very well. There was no way of knowing what crew they were sending though
My apologizes i should not assume. i miss understood when you said you had a hard time communicating. We have a roofing company in missouri that does the same called Allen roofing the owner and the people that come out to sell you. Then when the crew gets there not one speaks english. Very annoying
@@mattm5505 No apologies necessary! Yes, it is definitely frustrating
Speak English please. U r in America