Thanks for having literally the only Pro MB video showing upward comp on vocals I’d been hunting for this. Def my favorite upward compressor for vocals.
I knew I was missing something in my toolbox. Expansion! Thanks for explaining it in such an easy way to understand. I've been using automation all this time...
Thank you so much for this! I still need to practice with these ideas and probably watch this video a few more times for it to really sink in because I want to master dynamic control to better my mixes! Super clear and helpful! Subbed!
I think in the text overlay at 01:42 is an error. I believe you're stating it correctly.. At any rate these are some of the most helpful videos so thank you, keep up the good work Joey Sturgis Tones!
I recently discovered upwards compression in FF Pro-MB, really love it to sort of "push" certain frequency ranges without making it peak harder. Like when adding clarity on voice, or driving the warmth on the side of the master
You played an example using both upward & downward comp on the vocal but didn’t show the downward compressor. Were you using Pro MB or something different? And what downward comps do you typically use in conjunction with using Pro MB as an upward comp? Thanks🙏🏼
okay so this may be a newb observation: if i use a downward compressor or an upward expander, the result stays audibly the same - the peaks and trophs move closer to each other. now using a downward expander, that i can get behind. it is basically a gate with a bit more fine-tuneability. now is upward compression the same as using a slow attack and release on a regular compressor? it seems to be doing the same thing. lotsa questionmarks here still.
upward compression takes the low part of the signal and brings it closer to the peak. so the transient stays unaffected. a slow attack and release would leave the transient alone as well, but duck the sustain so it would make the transient stick out more. if you used a slow attack but a fast release, and increased makeup gain that might be a similar end result between upward and downward compression, the difference is, the downward compressor would be actively shaping the transient as the audio passed through. The upward compressor would be leaving it completely alone because the transient wouldn't be triggering the threshold of the upward compressor. its confusing but I hope that makes sense.
@@frankiewylde7649 I would note that upwards compression does affect the attack of your sound. It needs the signal of the transient to snap back to zero after having boosted it in the quiet part, so you gotta use look-ahead or a really fast attack to be ahead of that
I'm having trouble understanding why Upwards compression is any different than setting make-up gain and extra downwards compression to compensate the boosted highs. Is there even a difference? Or is this just a streamlined way of doing what i described? Thanks
You say what it is but you dont said how to get it , what are the parameters to obtain one or another in a traditional compressor , you only used Fabfilter
Who needs audio school when you got these JST videos
I'm gonna have to watch this video a couple of times to fully get it xD
Yea....same.
I just love these just videos, both Joey and miama clearly love what they're doing and it comes through! Thanks so much
This is the most informative JST video ever. I’ve learned more today than I have in the last 5 years
The comparison waveform sweeps are really great at showing what happens. Good video!
Thanks for having literally the only Pro MB video showing upward comp on vocals I’d been hunting for this. Def my favorite upward compressor for vocals.
Joey, you are a good teacher
20myears of trying to figure out what I hate about sound and this explains so much. Thanks. After Mother’s Day I’ll be expanding my palate.
Ur the goat bruh no cap. 2 years ago putting mfs on some real game
I was always scared of using upward and downward expansion but after watching this video now I can't wait to use it.
Thanks for sharing!
I love the "Attack Atack!" examples 🤘🔥❤
I knew I was missing something in my toolbox. Expansion! Thanks for explaining it in such an easy way to understand. I've been using automation all this time...
Love the music at the end
GREAT CLASS!!! Thank you!
Bravo! This is the best full spectrum explanation I've seen yet on a topic that is quite hard for newer engineers to comprehend.
hell of a video sir
Very good explanation. This video needs more views!
Awesome Video Joey! Super helpful!
Thanks for watching! What should I make a video about next?
Hi and many thanks Sir ! It’s a very rich video with many precious advices. Congratulations !
Thank you so much for this! I still need to practice with these ideas and probably watch this video a few more times for it to really sink in because I want to master dynamic control to better my mixes! Super clear and helpful! Subbed!
thanks for explain
Amazing video as always, this is super helpful. I had no idea how useful this, it almost seems necessary for heavier music
I think in the text overlay at 01:42 is an error. I believe you're stating it correctly.. At any rate these are some of the most helpful videos so thank you, keep up the good work Joey Sturgis Tones!
These videos are incredibly useful. Thank you so much.
Glad you like them!
@@joeymusic Super grateful. Will get DF-CLIP 2 today as well.
Great vid thabks
lightbulb moment!!
OTT is so powerful
I recently discovered upwards compression in FF Pro-MB, really love it to sort of "push" certain frequency ranges without making it peak harder. Like when adding clarity on voice, or driving the warmth on the side of the master
Right when I needed this haha!
Thank you Joey
Quality knowledge 🔥
Nah bro this vid is too good bless bro
es impresionante ver tus videos eres un buen productor y un buen maestro simplemente gracias!
Please post more videos in your vip club 🙏
You played an example using both upward & downward comp on the vocal but didn’t show the downward compressor. Were you using Pro MB or something different? And what downward comps do you typically use in conjunction with using Pro MB as an upward comp? Thanks🙏🏼
Great vid! Very well done. ;-)
okay so this may be a newb observation:
if i use a downward compressor or an upward expander, the result stays audibly the same - the peaks and trophs move closer to each other.
now using a downward expander, that i can get behind. it is basically a gate with a bit more fine-tuneability.
now is upward compression the same as using a slow attack and release on a regular compressor? it seems to be doing the same thing.
lotsa questionmarks here still.
Expansion moves peaks and troughs away from each other no matter which direction it is
upward compression takes the low part of the signal and brings it closer to the peak. so the transient stays unaffected. a slow attack and release would leave the transient alone as well, but duck the sustain so it would make the transient stick out more. if you used a slow attack but a fast release, and increased makeup gain that might be a similar end result between upward and downward compression, the difference is, the downward compressor would be actively shaping the transient as the audio passed through. The upward compressor would be leaving it completely alone because the transient wouldn't be triggering the threshold of the upward compressor. its confusing but I hope that makes sense.
@@frankiewylde7649 I would note that upwards compression does affect the attack of your sound. It needs the signal of the transient to snap back to zero after having boosted it in the quiet part, so you gotta use look-ahead or a really fast attack to be ahead of that
@@OleVinny oh wow, this is true. I didn't think of that. thank you for your input, always learning new things
I'm having trouble understanding why Upwards compression is any different than setting make-up gain and extra downwards compression to compensate the boosted highs. Is there even a difference? Or is this just a streamlined way of doing what i described? Thanks
Cool
You say what it is but you dont said how to get it , what are the parameters to obtain one or another in a traditional compressor , you only used Fabfilter
I'm using expander on bass to make it more stable. Tuning is super low.
this dude uses the same pic of him in every thumbnail
cruck
Rhymes with duck
So it's making me wonder why you would use makeup again on a compressor (other than glue compressor) at all... why not just use upward compression?