I'm a mechanic, I have the Gen 2 impact and drill, the drill doesn't see much use from me, but the impact is one of my favorite tools to use at work. I can see that tri LED being a huge upgrade for me when I'm working in darker areas
How useful it’s in tight spaces and overall interior and engine Bay Area work compared to the ratchet? I understand the torque difference, but aside from that, what are your thoughts as a mechanic?
@@mso1758 if you can get a socket on whatever fastener you're trying to remove in the engine bay or interior, the impact driver works great. If it's too tight for that though, the ratchet still works great. I use both every day, using whatever fits best, but I will go for my impact if I can
@@Xerthedragon Thank you for clarifying! When I want to loosen or tighten a screw/bolt in the engine (say the one that hold the intake hose), what is the a safe power setting to keep it at? I’m afraid from breaking something with all these plastic parts
@@mso1758 if you are afraid of breaking things then I would turn it down to 1. To be honest though, I leave mine at full power all the time and just modulate my trigger pulls
I had the bosch 12 v still and impact set for just over 10 yrs sold it got the Gen 3 M12....blown away with the set...luv the modes on the impact...lots of control.
the tool demonstrations r pretty good but your discussions at the end r really really good and concise, keep it up your channel is gonna be at 10k soon i have no doubt
@panzerkiller13 I picked up a 2nd gen m18 fuel in a small packout box with foam and 2 x 3ah batteries and charger for $150 awhile back. They have them and for a bargain once in awhile at home depot!!
As I stated in response to another, Milwaukee is like Apple. They walked so everyone else can run. So even though other brands have caught up or exceeded them in performance, all Milwaukee needs to do is make sure the quality remains while only making incremental improvements. Too many Pros are invested in the M18 trade specific platform to switch to Flex or whoever else for just a single impact or drill, and Milwaukee knows this. Torque Test’s number one rated impact is the Kobalt XTR. Couple that with its friendly price, and someone just starting in the trades might be inclined to give them a try since Milwaukee continues to keep prices high like Apple does. And Den’s video showing the Hercules battery pack uses the same exact cells as the Milwaukee HO for half the price might get folks wondering if they are being had. DeWalt better watch out too with their battery pricing nonsense.
All good points. While I think their are benefits to a single platform approach to your tool lineup I also think it impedes you from getting the best tool for you in each category. Both Milwaukee have class leaders in various categories but they don’t win in every category.
@@TinkerWithTools I agree completely. No company is the best, which is why Milwaukee Vs. DeWalt Vs. Flex arguments are pointless. I love Milwaukee, andthe quality of their tools, but for ie when it comes to impact wrenches i think DeWalt is killing it right now. I only own the DCF923B compact and it's a monster for it's size/weight, better than the M12 and close in size. I got a deal on the Gen2 Milwaukee Mid Torque and i use to own the 2767 Hi Torque, and i love the size and weight of the Gen 2 but the new Dewalt mid torque has TONS of power and the new hi torque is a lot more powerful than the 2767. I like the powerstack, and am pumped for the 5ah one that i'm hoping will be released soon. Quality on their impacts seem great as well, though i will say i have had a few DeWalt tools that felt cheaply made considering the price (DCG416B grinder for ie). My Kobalt grinder has much less cheaply made disc/wheel guards, a better paddle switch and a nicer handle, and it performs great at half the $, that is why i own 7 kobalt tools. Quality and performance for a fair price. I also own the Flex Stacked Lithium Rear Handle Saw Kit and the Flex Stacked Lithium Hammer Drill Kit and the quality is great, their hammer drill is the most powerful drill you can buy right now and it's not even that close, the saw as well. I also like the fact they have 3 different sizes of Stacked Lithium already. I own Makita 18V 5.0ah Batteries, but no tools for em atm lol. But yeah my point is the same lol. that it can be good to own multiple brands batteries. And you don't need 20 batteries each like some people will say. With 3-4 batteries (sometimes less) and 1, maybe 2 decent chargers, you should be fine. And wait for deals from all the big brands. Milwaukee has killer sales all the time on HD's website. Flex just had a good sale. Check out HD's specials of the day everyday and the pro special buy of the week. You'll find deals that are close to or more than 50% Off.
@@milwookie8558 I agree with you as well. There is likely a cost savings just being on a single brand and that certainly has a benefit but if you truly want the best lineup of tools you are probably looking at a minimum of two brands if not a few others.
You clearly don't know anything about the company Apple and how they got their start or how they continue to do business and compete. I would suggest staying in your lane and stick to hand tools and things of that nature. Milwaukee is NOTHING like the evil idea stealing joke of a company that is Apple. Oh and btw, Milwaukee doesn't use children in China to make their tools either. Literally no comparison
I bought the M18 kit, I’m new in the hvac field and wanted to start with the best tools so I didn’t have to worry about them. I do like both M18 drills, however I have my eye on that m12 impact seeing as how I’m only doing maintenance for the most part.. I’m glad I went Milwaukee
You'll likely appreciate the M12 Impact. Would be way easier to lug around that fits in small bags. Or just lighter weight on your hip if you're walking around a lot (Commercial).
You really did an awesome job 👏 🙌 I love your channel bro and im excited to watch you grow and very happy for you I know its hard work so I just wanted to thank you for the awesome content
On the m18 drill you put the forward reverse selector in the middle and you can pull the trigger 5 times to turn off the anti kick back and the same thing to turn it back on
I love them !!! Big fan of Milwaukee impacts. Have them both, and have the DEWALT versions. I find that Milwaukee has better trigger control. Also have the one key versions. What I like most about these gen4’s is the reduction in size. Very handy in tight spaces and cabinet installs. There’s my 2 cents. Great video.
I like own and use my stuff. I like Milwaukee on most days but sometimes we don’t agree. Dewalt also makes me happy but in a different way. Dewalt helps me with my yard, my vehicles and my house. Milwaukee doesn’t like outside. $1000 lawnmower and $300 trimmer is the same as buying 2 trimmers with blowers and 2 lawnmowers from dewalt. Dewalt batteries are on sale more often and cheaper. Nice video!
Agreed. Needed a heavy duty 18 volt hammer drill. Picked up a discounted Gen 3 kit for the hammer drill, with the 2 5ah batteries, charger and hard case for $229. The case will organize and protect it more. Im usually helping out a friend in hot/wet/damp/freezing temps and can use power of this thing to do something at the limits of its capabilities.😅
This is exactly what I said prior to your video. The M12 drill is the only one in my opinion that I really want to get. The change to the mechanical clutch is huge for me on a compact drill since it naturally does lighter duty. And the smaller size is great. I’m curious to see how light the clutch is on its lowest setting as well. If/when they change the M12 Surge to a tri light; that will also be a definite upgrade as well. Since I use the M12 surge on more delicate, indoor uses where there’s little to no light. My M18 get used mostly outside when I’m building. The tri light is mostly unnecessary. And the new M18 drill is a definite do not need. If I’m going to be drilling something that could tweak my hand I just grab an impact or add the handle.
@@TinkerWithTools oh for sure! Great tools. But this is what most things go through. The first few gens see huge changes. And the rest are smaller but add up over time.
They improved the trigger and finesse of all the tools. One thing makita had dialed in better than milwaukee until now. It was a soft update I’ll admit but they made some feature upgrades that help the overall experience.
Thanks for this. I've been a big fan of the tri led so I want to upgrade my gen 3 m12 impact to the gen 4 just for that. Nice that it will have a small performance increase as well. I don't even have a m12 hammer drill yet so it will be nice knowing the gen 4 is a big step above the gen 3
Amazing video from start to finish! Very entertaining, informative, and overall professional. I have no doubt youre going places brother. I just subbed, can’t wait to see more from you :)
Tim from Canada.. would have been nice when you were making this video to put the model number of M 12 fuel … and M 18 fuel kits have not seen model numbers for any of these so far
The M18 kit is 3697-22 and the M12 kit is 3497-22. Apologies for not including them in the video but they are linked in the description if you need more info.
Looks like they implemented a number of incremental improvements, but as you said, those tools were already standing at or near the top of their classes, so didn't need a leap in performance to compete. What I would like to see is further improvements in the battery tech, especially for the M12 line. I wonder if those tools aren't being held back by their batteries.
I have seen people start to get the new M12 high output batteries and I want to get my hands on them to test with those. M12 is already a leader for most 12 volt tools with many tools but there will be limits because they have already hit the max form factor on their batteries to some degree.
I am going to make a statement about your reviews. Dude you remind me of impact Nation man. You are real as F. ...... man. I can even believe you like all of us have a tool bias. Dude the only Mikita tools I have is 2 torque 10 bit and 3/8" nut driver. Your channel is not a Mikita channel dude but dude you speak the true sh.......t on all tools dude. Dude keep it going dude
Very good review. I bought the m12 kit and the m18 drill. Not worth the money for the tri-lights on the impact. Hole saws in a drill are wrist breakers, that's why I bought the m18 drill with the autostop feature. Can't put a price on safety features like that, They're well worth it to me. Both m12 tools are a welcome improvement over previous gen. Milwaukee is killing it with their tools. Can't wait for and upgraded surge in m12 and m18. I use those guys all the time but they are painfully slow.
I’m still happy with my m18 gen 3 and gen 2 m12 the difference ain’t much on the m 12 the m18 the hammer drill the kickback function is already implemented on other tools already like flex and kobalt XTR
That is the feeling I had. It’s not a compelling enough reason so far on the tools I have tested so far. It is better in each case but by a small amount.
The grip on the m12 line makes me a bit put off by them. I'm going m18 on Milwaukee and compact batteries instead. And then 12 volt extreme Dewalt on the side (Screwdriver DCF601N)
Yeah the grip is what will turn most people off of M12 if anything. They do have the new compact M18 stuff that is shockingly smaller than the M12 and more powerful. I have a video on the channel if interested! And that screwdriver is great. I recently gifted mine to someone who needed it more and I'm already thinking about buying another one if I see a good price.
@@TinkerWithTools Well I completely agree. I actually bought the m12 cd-0 screw driver with metal chuck. I was turned off by the grip, even though it ain't bad, it's not near the m18 comfort. And the size! Jeez. It was not compact at all. Big, bulky and top heavy. Fatter than my m18 drill. And almost as long. I'm glad everyone seem to like that little Dewalt! Makes me even more sure about buying it. 👍
I plan to get the high out batteries when they come out yes. As for the black bars, it has to do with the shutter speed and the lights that I have in my shop. When it gets out of sync you get rolling black bars. In this case I don’t notice it until editing and I can really refill and initial unboxing and first impressions.
No sure I understand the question. Are you saying how sometimes you put the battery on but don’t get it seated all the way so it doesn’t actually charge?
I have the current gen 3 I’ll wait till gen 5 because I’m not a heavy users of theses tools but I do need them as a home owner and for my lawn equipment! But I will be getting that mf m12 stubby!
Both kits are linked but the individual products items are: M18 Drill (2904-20), M18 Impact (2953-20), M12 Drill (3404-20) and the M12 Impact (3453-20).
You haven't put a 6.0 on the m18 please use the 6.0 on the time test..... i beat the matabo with the gen 4 in higher torgue applications it beat several brands
Milwaukee Fuel are great tools, but as good as they are, I'm a bit put off with their endless forthcoming generations that show very little or no performance improvements. In fact my gen 2 M12 hex impact seems to outperform the gen 3. Milwaukee can infinitely keep progressively going up the gen ladder in luring those that keep upgrading their tools to no advantage at all. Don't get me wrong. Milwaukees are good tools, but they seem to position themselves in their endless generations that adds incrementing value in price, but not in performance as expected.
I can see what you are saying. It's not just Milwaukee that does it either. Especially with drills and impact drivers, they seem to update them quite frequently. The Gen 3 M12 Drill in this video is a big step forward though in my opinion. They corrected some of the bigger complaints with the Gen 2, decreased the size and increased the power a decent bit. It feels like a more capable tool!
They are a completely different class of tool really. M18 had more than 2x the torque and then also has more safety features like anti-kickback. If the M12 is doing what you need I would say no but if you are doing bigger stuff it might be worth upgrading.
In m12 if you plan on using the drill heavily I feel like the Gen 3 drill really shines. Impact drivers it’s a toss up but Gen 3 is better. I would say if you got a screaming deal on Gen 2, keep that otherwise move on to 3.
Milwaukee is great, not knocking them, but I don't think Milwaukee is as good as most people think, I think they reached peak performance from power tools before other brands, but that's all, they peaked first, now other brands are catching up, but that doesn't mean Milwaukee is gonna keep getting better and better, like I said I think they just got to that level BEFORE the other brands, but now all other brands are there too, just got there a little slower.....
I’m with you Lee. Milwaukee is like Apple. They walked so everyone else could run. Now they can just rely on that if folks are invested on the platform, they will not lose them as customers as long as the quality remains.
I don’t think Milwaukee can make the M18 impact any more powerful. Currently it’s already too powerful imo because it’s beyond the limit of the 1/4 inch hex collet. That’s actually a downside of this as long as the Flex, you’re going to be breaking bits and maybe even collets.
I'm a mechanic, I have the Gen 2 impact and drill, the drill doesn't see much use from me, but the impact is one of my favorite tools to use at work. I can see that tri LED being a huge upgrade for me when I'm working in darker areas
The light is a nice improvement.
How useful it’s in tight spaces and overall interior and engine Bay Area work compared to the ratchet? I understand the torque difference, but aside from that, what are your thoughts as a mechanic?
@@mso1758 if you can get a socket on whatever fastener you're trying to remove in the engine bay or interior, the impact driver works great. If it's too tight for that though, the ratchet still works great. I use both every day, using whatever fits best, but I will go for my impact if I can
@@Xerthedragon Thank you for clarifying! When I want to loosen or tighten a screw/bolt in the engine (say the one that hold the intake hose), what is the a safe power setting to keep it at? I’m afraid from breaking something with all these plastic parts
@@mso1758 if you are afraid of breaking things then I would turn it down to 1. To be honest though, I leave mine at full power all the time and just modulate my trigger pulls
I had the bosch 12 v still and impact set for just over 10 yrs sold it got the Gen 3 M12....blown away with the set...luv the modes on the impact...lots of control.
10 years in the tool world is a long time in terms of the advancements that happen too. Glad you are happy with the new set.
@@TinkerWithTools it suited my needs still miss the drill for light duty stuff..built like a tank
Great comparison and informative, much appreciated ❤
Glad it was helpful!
the tool demonstrations r pretty good but your discussions at the end r really really good and concise, keep it up your channel is gonna be at 10k soon i have no doubt
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Love the pack out idea! Wish they would start doing that with both the combo kits with precut foam inserts
I get not doing it on the more budget friendly options but to include a hard case that isn't packout friendly seems to be a disservice.
They had done it years ago, I don't know why they stopped!
@panzerkiller13 I picked up a 2nd gen m18 fuel in a small packout box with foam and 2 x 3ah batteries and charger for $150 awhile back. They have them and for a bargain once in awhile at home depot!!
As I stated in response to another, Milwaukee is like Apple. They walked so everyone else can run. So even though other brands have caught up or exceeded them in performance, all Milwaukee needs to do is make sure the quality remains while only making incremental improvements. Too many Pros are invested in the M18 trade specific platform to switch to Flex or whoever else for just a single impact or drill, and Milwaukee knows this. Torque Test’s number one rated impact is the Kobalt XTR. Couple that with its friendly price, and someone just starting in the trades might be inclined to give them a try since Milwaukee continues to keep prices high like Apple does. And Den’s video showing the Hercules battery pack uses the same exact cells as the Milwaukee HO for half the price might get folks wondering if they are being had. DeWalt better watch out too with their battery pricing nonsense.
All good points. While I think their are benefits to a single platform approach to your tool lineup I also think it impedes you from getting the best tool for you in each category. Both Milwaukee have class leaders in various categories but they don’t win in every category.
@@TinkerWithTools I agree completely. No company is the best, which is why Milwaukee Vs. DeWalt Vs. Flex arguments are pointless. I love Milwaukee, andthe quality of their tools, but for ie when it comes to impact wrenches i think DeWalt is killing it right now. I only own the DCF923B compact and it's a monster for it's size/weight, better than the M12 and close in size. I got a deal on the Gen2 Milwaukee Mid Torque and i use to own the 2767 Hi Torque, and i love the size and weight of the Gen 2 but the new Dewalt mid torque has TONS of power and the new hi torque is a lot more powerful than the 2767. I like the powerstack, and am pumped for the 5ah one that i'm hoping will be released soon. Quality on their impacts seem great as well, though i will say i have had a few DeWalt tools that felt cheaply made considering the price (DCG416B grinder for ie). My Kobalt grinder has much less cheaply made disc/wheel guards, a better paddle switch and a nicer handle, and it performs great at half the $, that is why i own 7 kobalt tools. Quality and performance for a fair price. I also own the Flex Stacked Lithium Rear Handle Saw Kit and the Flex Stacked Lithium Hammer Drill Kit and the quality is great, their hammer drill is the most powerful drill you can buy right now and it's not even that close, the saw as well. I also like the fact they have 3 different sizes of Stacked Lithium already. I own Makita 18V 5.0ah Batteries, but no tools for em atm lol. But yeah my point is the same lol. that it can be good to own multiple brands batteries. And you don't need 20 batteries each like some people will say. With 3-4 batteries (sometimes less) and 1, maybe 2 decent chargers, you should be fine. And wait for deals from all the big brands. Milwaukee has killer sales all the time on HD's website. Flex just had a good sale. Check out HD's specials of the day everyday and the pro special buy of the week. You'll find deals that are close to or more than 50% Off.
@@milwookie8558 I agree with you as well. There is likely a cost savings just being on a single brand and that certainly has a benefit but if you truly want the best lineup of tools you are probably looking at a minimum of two brands if not a few others.
Are you ever a joke you must live in the states
You clearly don't know anything about the company Apple and how they got their start or how they continue to do business and compete. I would suggest staying in your lane and stick to hand tools and things of that nature. Milwaukee is NOTHING like the evil idea stealing joke of a company that is Apple. Oh and btw, Milwaukee doesn't use children in China to make their tools either. Literally no comparison
I bought the M18 kit, I’m new in the hvac field and wanted to start with the best tools so I didn’t have to worry about them. I do like both M18 drills, however I have my eye on that m12 impact seeing as how I’m only doing maintenance for the most part.. I’m glad I went Milwaukee
You'll likely appreciate the M12 Impact. Would be way easier to lug around that fits in small bags. Or just lighter weight on your hip if you're walking around a lot (Commercial).
I was captivated from the beginning brother you did an excellent job 👏 👍 🙌 👌 😀
Thanks!
You really did an awesome job 👏 🙌 I love your channel bro and im excited to watch you grow and very happy for you I know its hard work so I just wanted to thank you for the awesome content
On the m18 drill you put the forward reverse selector in the middle and you can pull the trigger 5 times to turn off the anti kick back and the same thing to turn it back on
Good tip. I knew you could turn it off I just hadn’t figured it out yet.
@@TinkerWithTools just make sure you put the forward reverse switch in the middle first or it won't turn off or on
I love them !!! Big fan of Milwaukee impacts. Have them both, and have the DEWALT versions. I find that Milwaukee has better trigger control. Also have the one key versions. What I like most about these gen4’s is the reduction in size. Very handy in tight spaces and cabinet installs. There’s my 2 cents. Great video.
Thanks!
I like own and use my stuff. I like Milwaukee on most days but sometimes we don’t agree. Dewalt also makes me happy but in a different way. Dewalt helps me with my yard, my vehicles and my house. Milwaukee doesn’t like outside. $1000 lawnmower and $300 trimmer is the same as buying 2 trimmers with blowers and 2 lawnmowers from dewalt. Dewalt batteries are on sale more often and cheaper. Nice video!
That’s a good way to look at it. Thanks for watching!
Thx bro for the info!
No problem!
Love my new m12s
They are great!
Agreed. Needed a heavy duty 18 volt hammer drill. Picked up a discounted Gen 3 kit for the hammer drill, with the 2 5ah batteries, charger and hard case for $229. The case will organize and protect it more.
Im usually helping out a friend in hot/wet/damp/freezing temps and can use power of this thing to do something at the limits of its capabilities.😅
This is exactly what I said prior to your video. The M12 drill is the only one in my opinion that I really want to get. The change to the mechanical clutch is huge for me on a compact drill since it naturally does lighter duty. And the smaller size is great. I’m curious to see how light the clutch is on its lowest setting as well. If/when they change the M12 Surge to a tri light; that will also be a definite upgrade as well. Since I use the M12 surge on more delicate, indoor uses where there’s little to no light. My M18 get used mostly outside when I’m building. The tri light is mostly unnecessary. And the new M18 drill is a definite do not need. If I’m going to be drilling something that could tweak my hand I just grab an impact or add the handle.
And the trigger control improvements are also a needed change for Milwaukee. Their triggers go from zero to hero.
They are by no means bad tools. More just not a big enough improvement for most people to want to upgrade.
@@TinkerWithTools oh for sure! Great tools. But this is what most things go through. The first few gens see huge changes. And the rest are smaller but add up over time.
They improved the trigger and finesse of all the tools. One thing makita had dialed in better than milwaukee until now. It was a soft update I’ll admit but they made some feature upgrades that help the overall experience.
I’ll have to keep an eye out for that in future testing.
Great information. Looking forward to what you have coming up. Thank you! 👍
Thanks for the support.
Thanks for this. I've been a big fan of the tri led so I want to upgrade my gen 3 m12 impact to the gen 4 just for that. Nice that it will have a small performance increase as well. I don't even have a m12 hammer drill yet so it will be nice knowing the gen 4 is a big step above the gen 3
Glad you found it useful.
I just got the Gen 4.....I upgraded because of the start/stop feature....I like it so far......
I agree. That is a nice feature to have and it was lacking on the non one key last Gen.
Amazing video from start to finish! Very entertaining, informative, and overall professional. I have no doubt youre going places brother. I just subbed, can’t wait to see more from you :)
Thanks. I appreciate the support!
The new m12 fuel set is awesome! Still have my old gen 2 set that’s been beating up!
They are both nice tools.
Tim from Canada.. would have been nice when you were making this video to put the model number of M 12 fuel … and M 18 fuel kits have not seen model numbers for any of these so far
The M18 kit is 3697-22 and the M12 kit is 3497-22. Apologies for not including them in the video but they are linked in the description if you need more info.
Looks like they implemented a number of incremental improvements, but as you said, those tools were already standing at or near the top of their classes, so didn't need a leap in performance to compete. What I would like to see is further improvements in the battery tech, especially for the M12 line. I wonder if those tools aren't being held back by their batteries.
I have seen people start to get the new M12 high output batteries and I want to get my hands on them to test with those. M12 is already a leader for most 12 volt tools with many tools but there will be limits because they have already hit the max form factor on their batteries to some degree.
@@TinkerWithTools Wow - I missed the news that they were introducing HO batteries for the M12 line. It will be interesting to see how they perform.
@@dperreno I am currently doing testing with the 2.5 ah HO. Should be getting the bigger 5.0 in the next couple of weeks as well.
I think the reasoning is because new m12 hammer drill is a huge step up from old gen that was an ok drill (there are better drills available).
I agree there were better drills. I am not sure there were better impacts. But I do love the new drill.
I am going to make a statement about your reviews. Dude you remind me of impact Nation man. You are real as F. ...... man. I can even believe you like all of us have a tool bias.
Dude the only Mikita tools I have is 2 torque 10 bit and 3/8" nut driver. Your channel is not a Mikita channel dude but dude you speak the true sh.......t on all tools dude.
Dude keep it going dude
Thanks man!
I love your Chanel, I look forward to the comparison with the Milwaukee versus DeWalt. I just subscribed, good job
I'll put that in my queue of video ideas. Appreciate the support!
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼😁
You bet
Im getting them new gen m18 this upcoming weekend 😊
I think you’ll like them. Have you had Milwaukee fuel before?
Very good review. I bought the m12 kit and the m18 drill. Not worth the money for the tri-lights on the impact. Hole saws in a drill are wrist breakers, that's why I bought the m18 drill with the autostop feature. Can't put a price on safety features like that, They're well worth it to me. Both m12 tools are a welcome improvement over previous gen. Milwaukee is killing it with their tools. Can't wait for and upgraded surge in m12 and m18. I use those guys all the time but they are painfully slow.
I’m still happy with my m18 gen 3 and gen 2 m12 the difference ain’t much on the m 12 the m18 the hammer drill the kickback function is already implemented on other tools already like flex and kobalt XTR
That is the feeling I had. It’s not a compelling enough reason so far on the tools I have tested so far. It is better in each case but by a small amount.
The grip on the m12 line makes me a bit put off by them.
I'm going m18 on Milwaukee and compact batteries instead. And then 12 volt extreme Dewalt on the side (Screwdriver DCF601N)
Yeah the grip is what will turn most people off of M12 if anything. They do have the new compact M18 stuff that is shockingly smaller than the M12 and more powerful. I have a video on the channel if interested!
And that screwdriver is great. I recently gifted mine to someone who needed it more and I'm already thinking about buying another one if I see a good price.
@@TinkerWithTools Well I completely agree. I actually bought the m12 cd-0 screw driver with metal chuck. I was turned off by the grip, even though it ain't bad, it's not near the m18 comfort.
And the size! Jeez. It was not compact at all. Big, bulky and top heavy. Fatter than my m18 drill. And almost as long.
I'm glad everyone seem to like that little Dewalt! Makes me even more sure about buying it. 👍
@@TinkerWithTools I'll check out the compact m18 vid. Thanks!
Yeah I don't have an issue with the M12 grip, but I can agree that others are more ergonomic.
Will you revisit this with the new M12 batteries?
Also kinda off topic but what are those black bars running across the screen?
I plan to get the high out batteries when they come out yes.
As for the black bars, it has to do with the shutter speed and the lights that I have in my shop. When it gets out of sync you get rolling black bars. In this case I don’t notice it until editing and I can really refill and initial unboxing and first impressions.
Tim from Canada.. my issues with Milwaukee M 18 charger.. is.. the batteries do you know know always go on as they are supposed to. Why
No sure I understand the question. Are you saying how sometimes you put the battery on but don’t get it seated all the way so it doesn’t actually charge?
I have the current gen 3 I’ll wait till gen 5 because I’m not a heavy users of theses tools but I do need them as a home owner and for my lawn equipment! But I will be getting that mf m12 stubby!
Not a bad approach to it.
Forgot to add the Milwaukee part number on the description. For searching purposes
Both kits are linked but the individual products items are: M18 Drill (2904-20), M18 Impact (2953-20), M12 Drill (3404-20) and the M12 Impact (3453-20).
The m12 kit looks great for the diy guy not looking to break the bank that is already on the red ecosystem
I agree. It's plenty powerful at this point for any of the jobs I would do in my DIY stuff.
You haven't put a 6.0 on the m18 please use the 6.0 on the time test..... i beat the matabo with the gen 4 in higher torgue applications it beat several brands
The 6.0 will be used in some comparisons when I show the difference between Gen 4 and Gen 3.
Milwaukee Fuel are great tools, but as good as they are, I'm a bit put off with their endless forthcoming generations that show very little or no performance improvements. In fact my gen 2 M12 hex impact seems to outperform the gen 3. Milwaukee can infinitely keep progressively going up the gen ladder in luring those that keep upgrading their tools to no advantage at all. Don't get me wrong. Milwaukees are good tools, but they seem to position themselves in their endless generations that adds incrementing value in price, but not in performance as expected.
I can see what you are saying. It's not just Milwaukee that does it either. Especially with drills and impact drivers, they seem to update them quite frequently. The Gen 3 M12 Drill in this video is a big step forward though in my opinion. They corrected some of the bigger complaints with the Gen 2, decreased the size and increased the power a decent bit. It feels like a more capable tool!
I have the M12 hammer drill, is it worth picking up the m18 hammer drill? Does it preform any better than the M12?
They are a completely different class of tool really. M18 had more than 2x the torque and then also has more safety features like anti-kickback. If the M12 is doing what you need I would say no but if you are doing bigger stuff it might be worth upgrading.
I bought both the 2nd and 3rd gen of the 12v combo kit today and I'm trying to decide which one to keep. Any advice?
In m12 if you plan on using the drill heavily I feel like the Gen 3 drill really shines. Impact drivers it’s a toss up but Gen 3 is better. I would say if you got a screaming deal on Gen 2, keep that otherwise move on to 3.
Milwaukee is great, not knocking them, but I don't think Milwaukee is as good as most people think, I think they reached peak performance from power tools before other brands, but that's all, they peaked first, now other brands are catching up, but that doesn't mean Milwaukee is gonna keep getting better and better, like I said I think they just got to that level BEFORE the other brands, but now all other brands are there too, just got there a little slower.....
They pushed the boundaries of what was possible first. But others will push it as well just like you said.
@@rch5991 I'm on DeWALT platform, I love the new 12 volt tools and the new 20 volt too...
I’m with you Lee. Milwaukee is like Apple. They walked so everyone else could run. Now they can just rely on that if folks are invested on the platform, they will not lose them as customers as long as the quality remains.
I don’t think Milwaukee can make the M18 impact any more powerful. Currently it’s already too powerful imo because it’s beyond the limit of the 1/4 inch hex collet. That’s actually a downside of this as long as the Flex, you’re going to be breaking bits and maybe even collets.
Do you believe using your tools make them stronger?
Not sure what you mean
Turn your hat around dude. You are not 8 years old. This is not 1990.
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