The most exciting part about this is that the gen 2 Fuel M12 stuff is going to be cheap now, and those tools are really just so good that the next gen stuff just isn't necessary for what I use them for. The current generation M12 stuff is just the sweet spot. Can't wait to load up at 50% off lol
Right now you can get the gen 2 m12 impact driver and drill set and even a 3/8 stubby impact wrench which sometimes is $200-$329 alone and comes with a cp2.0 and xc 4.0 battery plus a free cp2.0 for $269.00 plus tax on home depot
@@enthused7591 you’ll be fine with the 3/8 it is just as capable as the 1/2 i saw a video that 3/8 is better than the 1/2 you can always use an adapter to convert it 1/2 too 👍🏽
Do you already have the M12 Fuel Gen 2 kit? Home Depot has it for $179 with 3 batteries. It's a steal and the performance is within like 6% of these new ones.
Im glad they released these i hope the drill chuck doesnt lock up, mine did and shes out for the count, cannot get the chuck to release for the life of me
@@ManCaverTools testing, and doing stupid stuff, are 2 different things....next time stop it a tad before you grind your brand new chuck into the block, that would still be testing, but make more sense wouldnt it?
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I am trying to decide between the dewalt's 20 v or the milwaukee's 12 v, which one should I get? I am trying to get a tool that can work anything around the house and for my car as well.
Wow! Nice upgrades! For me, though, the "old" versions are working just fine - I only use them to 20% of their potential most of the time anyway. I do have the surge impact driver which works just fine driving screws, but it doesn't work so well to loosen lug nuts (okay, it can't loosen them at all!) but then again it wasn't designed for that. My next purchase will probably be the stubby impact wrench to get me that lug nut loosening torque!
lower RPM is always a bad thing. sometimes it means the tool can have a little bit more torque. id go with the gen 3 since its more compact than the Gen 2
@@ManCaverTools besides being compact which one has better performance all around like power and speed. Even though the specs are different for the gen 2 and 3
When i bought this kit i was very excited and started to drill hole like crazy and this happen to me also. The batery started to flash it just need to rest for a while. I am prety sure the HO batery will eleminated this glitch . I ditch my gen3 m18 (keep in my truck if need extra power ) for this kit and i am not desapointed at all they are very nice tools.
The hammer drill overheats. Had a nylon cupped brush cleaning a surface and after 5 minutes the drill locked out on safety with the 4 flashing lights. Wouldn’t say it’s an improvement
I know what it is, some tools have it active too early when the tool can do so much more before that feature activates. its pretty standard in tool now a days
The drill is nice, certainly very compact, what I don't like is that it is a tool that generates a lot of heat with very little work and it is uncomfortable to be working with a hot tool in your hand.
It's not a revolution its a minor facelifting... They were also really good in last gen. Higher capacity of battery wont give you more power. It will just run longer. they are delivering same amperage to the device (thats why they have HO batteries). This is electric device not a gasoline engine it does not need to break in to work better...
I've got the 2551-20 impact driver which is the surge. Great tool but I see this new one has bumped up the torque quite a bit. Are they going to make a new one with the surge option? Love the tri-led on the new one. These old eyes like lots of light. It seems like Milwaukee is posting 'peak' torque for the 3530-20, 1,500 in-lbs. For the one I've got they post the 'sustained fastening' torque of 450 in-lbs. I wish they would just stick with one number and do away with the advertising fuckery.
@@procrastinator1842 your a do it yourselfer or an hvac !!! m12 drill dies after making a few holes with a hole saw !! always gets stuck cause the power sucks ! the hammer setting is useless ! the impact is ok if your just hanging pictures on the wall at home again no power no torque no batterlife
@@almightytrustnobody4136 I'm neither, although I do have an HVAC ticket. You are right though, the current m12 1/2" drill struggles. The rest of the tool line-up works great. This new drill, coupled with the new HO batteries will hopefully do better with a 1" spade for rough ins.
I like the new angles. I also like being the first person on UA-cam to hand the Gem 4 hammer drill its first loss!
The most exciting part about this is that the gen 2 Fuel M12 stuff is going to be cheap now, and those tools are really just so good that the next gen stuff just isn't necessary for what I use them for. The current generation M12 stuff is just the sweet spot. Can't wait to load up at 50% off lol
@b gg Agree. M12 for most of what I do and the 18V once in a while.
Right now you can get the gen 2 m12 impact driver and drill set and even a 3/8 stubby impact wrench which sometimes is $200-$329 alone and comes with a cp2.0 and xc 4.0 battery plus a free cp2.0 for $269.00 plus tax on home depot
@@bruins871 I saw that. Great deal, but I really need the 1/2 inch impact. Maybe I'll settle for the 3/8 though
@@enthused7591 you’ll be fine with the 3/8 it is just as capable as the 1/2 i saw a video that 3/8 is better than the 1/2 you can always use an adapter to convert it 1/2 too 👍🏽
Right! Gen2 impact is 79 bucks at homedepot. Great deal.
I took a shoot every time this guy said "not to shabby" and now i am an alcoholic.
lol
Yes very annoying I had to take the volume off just watched times and performance
The running joke is that Dave is always drunk
then don't watch bro
@@Esdeath_0001 ohh makes sense now
I'm excited to see how these preform with the new M12 5ah high output battery
I can't wait for that battery as well
@b gg an arm and a leg
@b gg aquí en México ya las están vendiendo los que traen herramientas de USA la de 5 amperes highoutput en 60 dlls.
@b gg I see it listed on some sites for $120+ but not in stock until october.
5ah battery goes crazy!
I always know I'm getting a real review from your channel man! Keep up the good work mah man!
I thank you Twowheel
Well I'm sold, I'll definitely be getting these as soon as I can
Do you already have the M12 Fuel Gen 2 kit? Home Depot has it for $179 with 3 batteries. It's a steal and the performance is within like 6% of these new ones.
Awesome video..wow the new and shiny..that versus video will tell..
Love the M12 tools! Great video!
I can't seem to find the Milwaukee 3530-20 (5:59) any where. All I find is the M12 3453-20. Is the model 3530-20 discontinued ??
Got these for Xmas, can’t wait to put them to use
Now we need is a new gen of the surge
Im glad they released these i hope the drill chuck doesnt lock up, mine did and shes out for the count, cannot get the chuck to release for the life of me
Grab a small nail punch and hammer and hit the actual chuck jaws back towards the rear of the drill. Do all 3 in a circle, until the chuck releases.
Wow Dave, I'm impressed and you didn't break any of your toys, bet Stacie will be happy about that lol
she is but not too happy since it cost $229 lol
@@ManCaverTools aquí en México lo están revendiendo en 360 dlls. The m12 gen 3------- And the gen 4 m18 ....520 dlls.
@@petronilotrujillo2318 en serio?... no pos ta cabron! 😡
atta boy, grind that chuck right into that concrete, on a brand new drill....good job genius.....sheesh....
what is the point on testing tools out if I dont do that stuff. Genius.
@@ManCaverTools testing, and doing stupid stuff, are 2 different things....next time stop it a tad before you grind your brand new chuck into the block, that would still be testing, but make more sense wouldnt it?
Been waiting for this! I can’t wait to see gen 2 vs gen 3. Also want to see gen 3 vs dewalt xtreme.
that video will be coming soon
Just bought the kit for 229, plus free 5ah high output battery, is this the gen 3, or 2 kit
im super excited for vs video
YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
The M12 impact driver is amazing I’m not sure if the hammer drill is worth the upgrade but that impact driver is!!
I've been reading some people saying they're having over-heating issues with the gen 3 m12 impact driver. Have you experienced that at all with yours?
@@Joey-yq5se That's good to know. Thanks for the reply I really appreciate it.
Dave, does the hammer drill have that electronic clutch like Gen2?
No
Is the clutch on the drill still electronic?
ill find that out and present it in the next video
Saludos desde México....amigos
Excelentes videos
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I am trying to decide between the dewalt's 20 v or the milwaukee's 12 v, which one should I get? I am trying to get a tool that can work anything around the house and for my car as well.
Around the house work, M12 will do the trick
Hey dave do you use filter bags on your vacs when sucking up concrete dust?
yes I do, filters and a bag
When's the comparison video coming out? I'm torn between buying the Gen2 or Gen3.
Strength is great and all, but what about the trigger control?
I can test that
@@ManCaverTools Thank you 🤩🤩
I bought might a week ago, and love my m12 kit
Impact is 3453-20 and kit alone is 3453-22.
Can't wait to see them vs videos between the m12 gen 3 new drill and impact and the gen 2
Looks great, still love my dewalt 12v 😁
Can you compare it to the previous model...
Heard they went back to a mechanical clutch for the hammer drill... is it better than the older electromechanical one in the Gen 2?
we will see in an upcoming video
Wow! Nice upgrades! For me, though, the "old" versions are working just fine - I only use them to 20% of their potential most of the time anyway. I do have the surge impact driver which works just fine driving screws, but it doesn't work so well to loosen lug nuts (okay, it can't loosen them at all!) but then again it wasn't designed for that. My next purchase will probably be the stubby impact wrench to get me that lug nut loosening torque!
Get the mid torque
I need a Ryobi Hp 4 speed impact vs m12 gen 3 impact test. We’re you at David Nicholas! Lol please
I believe the lights flash also when the battery overheats, so perhaps it isn't the tool that's the limiting factor here.
First!
I couldn’t wait to see this
I thank you Kev
Hey Dave I see the rpms on the gen 2 hammer drill are 1700 and this new gen 3 is 1550. So which one do you recommend for performance and power
lower RPM is always a bad thing. sometimes it means the tool can have a little bit more torque. id go with the gen 3 since its more compact than the Gen 2
@@ManCaverTools besides being compact which one has better performance all around like power and speed. Even though the specs are different for the gen 2 and 3
@@ManCaverTools besides the compactness which one would you prefer
In the future can you compare to both the previous gen m12 and also the m18 brushless non-fuel impact
yes I can
When i bought this kit i was very excited and started to drill hole like crazy and this happen to me also. The batery started to flash it just need to rest for a while. I am prety sure the HO batery will eleminated this glitch . I ditch my gen3 m18 (keep in my truck if need extra power ) for this kit and i am not desapointed at all they are very nice tools.
we will see how well it does in the next video it is in
I love my m12 fuel combo, i rarely grab my older 18v gen4x ridgid drill/impact anymore
Where can we buy the combo drills from ?
im not sure which stores has these yet
Home depot
All the big stores have them.
How light is the clutch on the lowest setting?
Wow were did ya find the kit at I've been waiting for it
my TTI Rep told me a certain location had a few
You can get them at most big box stores. Home Depot, Acme tool, Ohio Tool, etc.
Oh ok was waiting for them to come out would homedepot have them do you think
I want to see these up against the hilti a12 please
that video is coming soon
@@ManCaverTools perfect!! I use the Hilti 12v drill daily with the different Chucks and would love to see a comparison
I use 6ah batteries for power tools and anything smaller for Lights or for a phone charger/ battery bank
The hammer drill overheats. Had a nylon cupped brush cleaning a surface and after 5 minutes the drill locked out on safety with the 4 flashing lights.
Wouldn’t say it’s an improvement
That “glitch” is the red link intelligence stopping the tool before it’s damaged, the tool will do it every time it’s overloaded.
I know what it is, some tools have it active too early when the tool can do so much more before that feature activates. its pretty standard in tool now a days
Nice vid as always 👍. Is hammer drill any lighter/smaller than the previous model? It looks more compact as the pervious one.
At 8:28 you can see that the new drill is at least 1/2" shorter than the prior model.
oh man i wanna upgrade my gen 2 hammer drill now
Versus video coming soon, we will see if its worth the upgrade
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Dave Can you Do The M18 Gen 4
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The drill is nice, certainly very compact, what I don't like is that it is a tool that generates a lot of heat with very little work and it is uncomfortable to be working with a hot tool in your hand.
I dont own the the previous gen so i suppose buying the gen 3 is worth it
It's not a revolution its a minor facelifting... They were also really good in last gen. Higher capacity of battery wont give you more power. It will just run longer. they are delivering same amperage to the device (thats why they have HO batteries). This is electric device not a gasoline engine it does not need to break in to work better...
So all in all not too shabby you're saying?
I've got the 2551-20 impact driver which is the surge. Great tool but I see this new one has bumped up the torque quite a bit. Are they going to make a new one with the surge option?
Love the tri-led on the new one. These old eyes like lots of light.
It seems like Milwaukee is posting 'peak' torque for the 3530-20, 1,500 in-lbs. For the one I've got they post the 'sustained fastening' torque of 450 in-lbs. I wish they would just stick with one number and do away with the advertising fuckery.
we will see in the future if they make a surge model. Versus video coming soon
@@ManCaverTools Right on. Good to hear. Can't wait to see it.
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Is it just me or does the handle seem like Ia large tube not very comfy?????
im not a fan of the handle either
finally
I want to like these. I really do……but they are just so damn uncomfortable in hand no matter how light they are.
I agree. the handle is wayyyyy too thick
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Hi Jeremy
@@ManCaverTools how are you
those are kids toys for d.i.y ers !! im getting gen 4 M18 drills
these have their purpose
I use M12 all day, every day. Why carry twice the weight, and hold twice the weight above your head, if you don't have to?
@@procrastinator1842 your a do it yourselfer or an hvac !!! m12 drill dies after making a few holes with a hole saw !! always gets stuck cause the power sucks ! the hammer setting is useless ! the impact is ok if your just hanging pictures on the wall at home again no power no torque no batterlife
@@almightytrustnobody4136 I'm neither, although I do have an HVAC ticket. You are right though, the current m12 1/2" drill struggles. The rest of the tool line-up works great. This new drill, coupled with the new HO batteries will hopefully do better with a 1" spade for rough ins.
Biggest change, it's slightly smaller everything else is identical
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