Audi Q8 e-tron Takes On The 10% Challenge To Find Out If This Electric SUV Is A Good Road Tripper
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Max tests the Audi Q8 e-tron in the 10% challenge - charging it for 15 minutes from 10% SoC and seeing how long it can go at 80 MPH highway speeds before going back down to 10%.
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0:00 Intro
1:31 Test Procedure
6:05 Q8 e-tron Details
11:37 The Charge
17:50 The Drive
27:06 The Result - Авто та транспорт
This test should be called the “15 minute charging challenge“ you drive it to low SoC, charge 15 minutes and repeat like on a road trip. This 10% name is just confusing and not intuitive, otherwise you wouldn‘t have to explain it that lenghty. Doing it from 10% to 10% for consistency is fine.
I think calling it the 10/15 (10%/15m) challenge would be a more descriptive name that still is catchy/short/easy to say
Great detailed test Max! Thanks
I love this test, it has so much real world relevance! Staying 15 minutes at the chargers is exactly how I prefer my EV road trips. Please keep them coming! It would be very interesting to see how an eGMP car or any other 800V car performs, for example.
Where might that spreadsheet link be for all vehicles that have run this test??
Linked in description now!
Change the view on the drivers display to the small dials and you see the charging speed
80 mph are 128km/h so 130km/h is the speed limit on a lot of european Highways.
Well done, Max! When do we see your Polestar 2, Mach-E 4X, and the Bolt EV? So many more cars to do!
Would love to see how Alyssa's 2019 E-tron compares in a 10% challenge also do the 19" aero wheels help much vs the 21's?
I have a 2021 on 20s and it does 3+ mi/kWh at this speed with 250 mi of range. Don’t like the updated exterior and the illuminated overbite.
In WLTP it is quite the difference
@@abraxastulammo9940 WLTP is more delusional about range than even Tesla.
@@Ficon232 Wh/km with 19" rises to 249 Wh/km with the 21" in the WLTP highway test.
With 22" it is even 264 Wh/km 🙈
Max may or may not have a future as a Meteorologist…reading through that Weather sounded spot on. Solid 10%! Keep it up. ❤
About the same as 4680 Model Y - shows that a good charging curve can make up for terrible efficiency
Agree and this is why this test is so good.
Yup! Crazy to think how many more kWh of energy were needed to go essentially the same distance ~ basically 31% more and both are dual motor cars...
@@iMaxPatten Not that much of a size difference either
@@brandenflasch
The Q8 E-Tron is about half a size-class up in terms of exterior size, but interior room is pretty similar.
"Spicy" is starting to get old.
I haven’t charged at EVgo often, does the 15 minute display include the 40 second handshake time, or start after the handshake is complete? If the handshake time is reduced would it result in more effective time charging?
Thank you. 80 mph is so much closer to real life.
The charging costs were the most shocking part of this video. $20 is a full charge in my tesla
EVgo is pricey!
Wish it were a full charge in Cali at $20 lol.. Cali at times can have supercharger pricing at $.45kWh - $.55kWh.
@@adamrfletcher damn, 50 cents per kWh is going to be like 12.5 cents a mile. That's about 25% more than I pay for gas is my area and my current vehicle.
Would be very interesting to see how the BMW IX 50 does in this test. It charges better than the Q8 and is also more efficient.
and looks like a beaver to boot!
the Ambulance is sweet!! Can't wait to see fire trucks and all kinds of EVs! the trailer of charing is pretty sweet too!!
Need to get more vehicles through this challenge already. You're camera presence is growing, sounds like a good project for you Max. Just need to get your hands on more stock vehicles (and why isn't the Polestar on the spreadsheet?)
Click the view button on the steering wheel for the charging details. My Q8 received 41Kw off the new SK Signet EA Chargers. Noticed when the charger showed the requested charge rate from the car that the charger was delivering generally 10 kW less. The 170 kW rate is in the middle of the charge session which is good if arriving at the station with a little extra juice in the battery. I have seen a calculated 250 miles of range at speeds between 75-80 mph which is plenty for almost any trip, since charging stations are generally less than 70 miles apart.
The new Signet chargers which show the requested speed are engaging in a bit of an information operation and are not showing you the car's requested speed, but the car's adjusted requested speed based on the maximum amperage of the charger available at that time. In other words, if the charger has been derated, and the amperage to be delivered has been lowered, the car's requested amperage will be lower. So if a 350kW charger can only give an e-tron 60kW because it has been derated, the charger will say that the e-tron is requesting 60kW.
You should do this test again with the 2019 etron and see how diff it is if any? Considering the charging speed and curve is slightly diff
Also appears that the evGO station showed a max of 171kW. That is awesome. We have seen similar in our Q8 e-tron.
My top 3 next cars to run this test with:
Tesla Model S (current dual motor with standard wheels)
Hyundai Ioniq 6
VW ID4 82 kWh with new rear powertrain
I like this kind of tests though the e-tron did actually much better than the comments in the video imply. Looking at the overall results table and considering that the e-tron ran on 21“ wheels and that it was not the more efficient Sportback variant, the tested e-tron did actually quite good. It got more range than the Model Y which is somewhat comparable in SUV like dimensions and also got more than the not counted MB EQE 500. Also, though not as good as the Taycan for obvious reasons it’s on second place when looking at the kw/h intake after 15mins. All in all I think much better than commented.
*kWh
Just went to the Detroit Auto Show, I really liked the Chevy Bolt EV. Also they’re releasing a Ram EV.
I did this test on a '23 X in the Florida heat and got 119 miles.
would be interesting to tow 5,000 pounds then see!!!
Wow, almost $22 for 15 minutes of charge seems really really expensive. I thought electric car charging was supposed to be really cheap. Is it normally expensive or only that brand of chargers?
41s handshake is just atrocious. The committees that agreed on the CCS spec that has held back everyone really need a kick in the ass.
Would batery preconditioning affect the 10% challenge? Audi video at the 1:00 ma4k seems to imply they have route preconditioning.
ua-cam.com/video/2wZsBraqTc0/v-deo.htmlsi=1BNsHnPUckzPRKw6
Do an Ioniq 5!
$23 for just 46% of charge? 😂
Was the 2019 e-tron tested on the 10%
Why referering to EPA that always miss when it comes to car like te E tron.
Translate étron from French to English, just for fun. Nature loves irony..😂
Crazy thing is that Bolt EUV in background has similar interior space and is much much more efficient at a much lower cost. If you don’t need AWD it’s definitely a consideration.
This car would do even better if you plugged in at 30 or 35%. I know for the sake of the challenge they all start at 10% but the Q8 etron's best charging speeds are later in the pack as you discovered when unplugging. Instead of 10-46% you might be able to do like 35-75% or more in the same 15 minutes which could be an extra 10 miles or so of range.
I believe it considering it took a while to get peak speeds! The voltage ramp up on this pack is gradual. We test all cars the same way for this challenge but that might be the best strategy for roadtrips. Around 65% it does start to slow down, and by 85% it is tapering much more aggressively than old e-tron.
In our database you can confirm this. We have calculated the 10% challenge result based on 10,15,20,25 and 30 minutte charging. You can sort based on this. The flat curve push the result up the list the longer your charge
This is a great point - the question should be “what percentage do I need to get to a charger at so I can maximize charging for a 15 minute session?”
@@wizkashifa you also have to keep in mind what chargers are available. You would need something capable of providing the 390 amps required for the peak speeds which would likely be a 350kW charger. Most 150s top out at 350 amps.
@@wizkashifaThe Audi charge curve is traditionally such as you don't need to figure it out 🤷
It cost $23.76 to go 73 miles, that's 33 cents per mile. My 2002 Mustang GT costs $42 to fill and goes 375 miles, that's 11 cents per mile. Everyone needs to boycott EVgo for being so expensive.
Look,. I own and SQ8 e-tron. If I wanted efficiency, I would walk or buy an e-bike. But I want a luxury experience when I drive. I have owned BMWs and Merceds and they do not compare to an Audi driving xperience. Yes, Audi is overpriced, which is why I buy pre-owned and avoid the depreciation hit. But, for what I paid for an SQ8 e-tron, the car is worth every penny.
Came running thinking it was range test of etron vs Q8 etron
Coming soon!
@@KyleConner What about 0-100% test?
😄@@KyleConner a huge difference on range is the only thing keeping me on the fence from making the switch yet lol, just waiting on you to make the decision haha
CCS chargers will do this 80% of the time. Teslas 99.5% of the time.
she is thirsty!
iPhone cameras really suck
Night and low light don’t do them many favors.
@@iMaxPatten Along with backlight, overhead light, sunlight, etc. I have an old Samsung S8 that does a better job. I like the Q8 though!
This audi will be 45 grand in a short 2 years.
Tell me what luxury car does not depreciate, excluding Lexus , you buy a car because you love it, cars are not assets, they are bound to depreciate.
@@tomaramash9949 Thank you for further illustrating the point that I made. Good job
It seems like almost all of the cars effectively come down to "charge for 15 minutes for every hour of driving". That's incredibly terrible, I thought they would be WAY better than this. Pretty much only the Porche is even close to a resonable charge speed and even that is just acceptable.
This holds true if your consumption is 1/4 of your charge speed.
BUT you always have the initial full charge range if you start the trip (from your wallbox) and the 15 min charge might get you to your destination or you can make a 30 min break to order food and then go for 2(+) hours.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Ah yes, we all want to stop and eat a full meal every 2 hours just so we can wait around for our car to get to nearly usable.
@@Snerdles These EV food breaks sure can make you overweight. 😂
How often do you really travel far without taking an airplane or train? More or less than once a month? If the environmental or monetary gains are worth the slight inconvenience only you can answer for yourself. EVs are now able to go 1000 km in 10h or better, teslabjorn has tested this with Skoda Enyaq Coupe RS, VW ID5 GTX, Mercedes EQS SUV 580, Kia EV 6, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Model Y, Mercedes EQS 580 and 450+ sedan, BMW i4 40 and M50, Taycan Cross Turismo 4, Polestar 2 LR rwd, BMW i7 60, Mercedes EQE 43 AMG, e-tron GT and several Model S since "Raven".
@@abraxastulammo9940 Yes, from spring to fall I generally travel where I'm driving 3-4 hours, do 4 hours of work and drive 3-4 hours home. I wouldn't have access to charging on location usually. This is why my requirements to go all on on a full EV is 3 hours of highway driving in 15 minutes of charging. Currently I drive a PHEV and if I fill up the night before I don't even have to stop in either direction because it's rated to get 1000km on a tank of gas but 900 is more realistic in real world driving.
Different people will have different definitions of "acceptable" charging speed. I road trip infrequently, usually with my family, and we stop often in any case. To me that's a big part of a road trip. If I just had to get from point A to B as fast as possible, I would fly. So I'm less concerned with charging speed, and more concerned with having plentiful and reliable chargers in places where we actually want to stop. If you do a lot of bat-out-of-hell road trips and need to cover ground in the minimum time possible, then an EV isn't for you with current technology.
80mph in CO is about 72 mph in Chicago when factoring altitude.
Why do some people buy an e-tron? It’s hard to find anything superlative about this EV. Range and charging speed are far from stellar.